The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Middlekauff's Weekend Mailbag: Draft Talk, Belichick Plan, Lance 2nd Guessing, Mitch vs. Baker, Titans Disrespect

Episode Date: April 3, 2022

John answers listener questions in his weekend Mailbag, including how the Chargers and Jets should attack the draft, if there's a master plan behind Belichick letting JC Jackson walk, if Shanahan and the Niners already regret moving up to draft Trey Lance instead of pursuing a veteran QB like the Rams with Stafford, if Billy Napier can get the Gators back to contending for natties, if Baker is better than Mitch Trubisky, and if the Titans are underrated because of media focus on the Colts.Subscribe NOW and follow Middlekauff and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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So it'll, it'll mellow out, not as much. There's no Devante Adams, Tyree Kill Trades, happening, I would imagine. As of recording this, we are officially on Tiger Woods watch. Will he or will he not play the Masters? My gut says he does. Just because of reading everyone on the internet, I know the guy. Hope he does.

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golf today too. I'm recording this Friday morning. A lot of golf, you know. People are like, I can't wait to retire and play golf. It's like, shit, I play golf in a lot. Okay, let's dive into some questions from Clinton. I was curious what your thoughts are about the Chargers draft needs

and if you think it would be beneficial to trade down possibly. I like Jordan Davis, but seeing as we got two DTs through free agency, I believe we need to take a look elsewhere. I believe cornerback and wide receiver is a must. Keenan is a stud, but getting old,

so I believe the charges will move off Keenan sooner rather than later. Love the show. My philosophy would be in the draft. If I don't need a quarterback, would always tend to gravitate toward O-Linman or D-Linman. I don't think you can ever go wrong.

And if you have the chance to draft Jordan Davis, I don't think you would, because I think he's going to end up going in the top probably 10-11 picks. Just, I mean, he's 350. he ran a 4b 8. I mean, he played at Georgia. But if you did, I would take him over, like, Chris Olavé,

because I would go, I can get a wide receiver later in the draft. Now, thinking, I don't know if your draft picks in front of me, but you traded your second round pick for Khalil Mack, so you're not going to have a second round pick to get a wide receiver. But I would lean line. I just don't think you can go wrong with the line. and your general manager has done a good job drafting wide receivers later in the draft. I think you need a big running back.

You know, I think that to me is a big need for you guys. Now, you can get that guy in the third, fourth, fifth round, but you need a guy that is physical. You know, you have Austin Echler, who's a good player, but he's small. I want a big, like, I'm trying to think, I was going to say Najee Harris. Obviously, he's a first round guy, but I'm trying to think of bigger backs that you can find later that are in the league right now. I can't. I don't know why my brain isn't working.

It feels like the big bruising backs are pretty high drafted guys. But just get me some guy that can just pound the ball between the tackles. Whenever NFL related, I look forward to what you have to say. This is from Gerard. Appreciate that. I'm a big fan of the shitty teams. New York Jets. Do you think the turnaround?

I like Joe Douglas, but this record since he took over is bad. Where do you think they go in the draft? Well, they have two picks pretty high, right? because they have their own, they sucked, and then Seattle's. Like I said, I just don't think you can go wrong with the lines. I would go D-Linman early, and I'd probably go, I mean, your guy's defense was atrocious. Now, maybe because of Zach Wilson, you guys go wide receiver with the second pick, Garrett Wilson, Chris Alave, a guy like that.

But I guess you go corner. I mean, shit. When you're as bad as the Jets beside a D-L-Lassratcher, which they obviously need. Now, granted, Carl Lawson tore his Achilles. He'd come back from that. You guys just need playmakers, whether it's a sweet corner, whether it's a sweet wide receiver.

You need everything. It's like, you know, when you buy like a fixer-upper, it's like, where do we start? Doesn't matter. Knocked the whole thing down, build it back up from scratch. Long question here from Matthew. I think a very under-the-rader development this year

is the way Bill Belichick is reassembling the secondary. With J.C. and Gilmore gone, we have seen Bill target versatile slot receivers and zone dominant outside corners on bargain deals to replace. This represents an ideological shift from the last few years of a man dominant outside corners on the Patriots playing in a man-heavy scheme. Last year we saw them play way more zone. God, look at this. Is this like Robert Sala? In your opinion, and what you've been hearing this off-season, do you think this is a result of a more mobile new quarterback? that thrives off extending plays and taking running lanes and when presented in key situations

and playing a man-dominant scheme puts too much stress on the corners? This is philosophically genius. I haven't really thought this way. Do you expect a trend of more zone-heavy schemes to continue, permanate throughout the NFL? I think it depends on your personnel. Because if you just sit back and play zone all day,

if I know what I'm doing and I have a good quarterback, like I can pick you apart. I can nickel and dime you to death. You know, obviously in man situations, if you have a weakness on the outside, I can take deep shots. I can expose you in one-on-one situations. But I do think it depends on the coordinator. Just because you're quote-unquote running zone, well, if your players are robots, like, I got to go too. I always hate robotic zone defenders.

And I see it sometimes with the Niners when they go in pre-vent. Like Fred Warner just drops to the middle of the field because that's his job as the middle linebacker. and he just kind of eats grass instead of being instinctual. Like you can't just like, my landmark is seven yards back, three yards over. Well, yeah,

that's what they teach you on the whiteboard and in practice. But what about when the wide receiver's freelancing or the guy crossing the middle of the field, you know, I think the better teams expose, there is no perfect coverage. There is just good coverages

against certain teams running certain plays. So I hear you. I mean, I don't know enough. about big picture, Bill obviously is a schematic genius, so I wouldn't put it past him. But I think it's more that he just didn't want to pay J.C. Jackson

that much money. I live in St. Louis and was never a big football guy until after the Rams left. Very into fantasy football now and mainly follow players, but need advice recommendations on a team to root for.

Feel like the Chiefs would be too bandwagony. I'm also a huge fan of the Rosilopod and feel like Ryan shares similar personalities. you and Ryan share personality traits. I think if you were to do a life advice portion of your pod, it would be awesome. I know you do the mailbag, which I listen to, but I think you do a segment of advice about things other sports would really be good.

Other than sports would be good. I thought about that, but then I feel like I'm ripping off the segment. To me, that's why I always say in this mailbag, you don't have to send me questions about the Jets draft. You send me questions about anything. I don't care. You know, I'm open to.

talk life. Not saying I have all the answers, but I'll definitely talk some life. I would say team to banwagany, Buffalo Bills. Haven't won a Super Bowl ever. Obviously, I've had just crazy heartbreak. Early 90s, last year. I mean, I think the Buffalo Bills would be a fun team. Fun quarterback, good guy, easy to root for.

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I love money, so I enjoy talking about it. My question is a 49ers fan, why would the Niners take such a big swing and give up so much for Trey Lance when they have gone after bigger fish this year, such as Wilson, Ryan, or even Matt Stanford? What would the consequences be long if Lance doesn't play big in the near future?

Follow-up question. What does the Pac-12 need to do to compete with the more dominant conferences such as the SEC and Big 12? If you would have told Kyle Shanahan that you could have just signed like a Mitch Trubisky last year, kept your draft picks,

and Matt Ryan would have been available this year, that's what he would have done. He can tell, say whatever he wants, and you never have to talk about it, but that's exactly what he would have done. If you could have just got Matt Ryan for a third round pick or even a second round pick

and kept Jimmy all through this year, that's what he would have done and not done the Trey Lance for, I mean, one million percent. mainly not that he doesn't like Trey Lance, he's just, he realizes it's a major project and he's trying to win every game. The Pact 12,

you need to spend more money. You need to cheat. I mean, you saw Fred Taylor say that Georgia paid him 50 grand. Fred Taylor went to college in the mid-90s. The SEC's pushing the envelope. They pay to play.

Now, USC's starting to do it. Lincoln and they're buying all these guys. And obviously it's quote-unquote legal now. But it's still a shady business. And the SEC and the Big Ten and the Big Twelve will do whatever it takes to be great at football. This institution's out west are just, we care about academics way more than sports, which I don't, but they do. And I just don't think we're willing to cross the lines that they're willing to cross. Pete was, and Pete kicked the shit out of everyone for five years.

But most guys aren't, you know. Chip Kelly kind of was. bag, Willie Liles, got caught threw the guy under the bus. You got to be brown bagging if you want to win. John Wooden, Google John Wooden. He had a lawyer with the last name, I think Gilbert. They were paying

players in like the 70s. You know, it's just how it works. It's why I appreciate Arizona basketball. They kind of have this vagus feel to him. They're out in the middle of nowhere in Tucson. They've always been good at Hoops. Well, Hoops is the shadiest of the college sports

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You'd say Arizona basketball or Oregon football. I know SC had the peak, but they've also been really shitty. I saw an SC player was like, one of their running backs must have been talking to the media. and he was like, you know, last year, if you broke the huddle and you either didn't hear the play or you didn't know what the play was, if you just ran like a swing route on a passing play,

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job at Louisiana Lafayette. He turned the program around from a 7 and 7 record to 12 and 1 last year with a 40 and 12 recent record during that span. He's known as an elite recruiter and through one offseason already has Florida in the lead on multiple 5 and 4 stars with more momentum than Dan Mullen ever had. What are your thoughts and predictions for the future of Florida football in an increasingly competitive SEC with the athletic Anthony Richardson at quarterback? Well, I think you should be very bullish. One, the East. I don't actually, let me rephrase, I was going to say the East sucks. It no longer does. Georgia just won the Natty. They have an elite coach in Kirby.

Tennessee, Josh Hyple's pretty solid. Tennessee is going to be, I don't know if they're going to be paid Manning, T. Martin, Philip Fullmer elite, but they're going to be good. And Kentucky is good. So I would say the East,

while it's not the West, right, you don't have Bama, you don't have LSU, Brian Kelly's going to be good. A&M, Ole Miss, Mike Leach, it's really good, right? Auburn is solid. But I think the East is coming.

So I think Billy Napier, he is, when I was scouting, he worked for Jim McAwayne at Colorado State. I met him really briefly. I know people really like him. He's really a high-level coach, but it's hard. You know, it really is.

I mean, hell, Jim McAwan at Florida was going to the SEC championship game and got fired. So the expectations in the SEC, which I love are like the NFL. You can't just go 8 and 4 and everyone's happy. People expect SEC championship bursts, and not just that, they expect you to win that game,

which is sweet. I mean, I always say the SEC's the NFL light. Pays a premium. Coaches are getting a premium. It's covered, you know, a ton of people care. It doesn't get any better. It, you know, what's they're saying? I mean, you know, you're from there.

It just means more. It's true. Football in the South means way more than it does football out here. And football is big in the West Coast, right? But it ain't even close. We care about pro football out here. You guys care. And to me, the West Coast cares about pro football.

I mean, the 49ers, one of the biggest brands in the league. Denver Broncos, when they're good, one of the biggest brands in the league. The Rams are now a powerhouse. Seattle with Russell was a huge needle mover. Obviously, the Northeast with the Eagles, the Giants and the jets suck. But when they're good, they do huge television numbers, the Patriots. But the Steelers. But in the South, you guys just care about pro.

college football, which is badass. Recently watched the American underdog the life story of Kurt Warner and his journey to the NFL. Curious to know if you've seen it and your thoughts, as well as your opinion on Kurt Warner as a player. I have not seen the movie,

but I think he's probably one of the most unique stories in the history of sports. The guy graduated college in 1994. He bounced around in the arena league on practice squads as a third stringer. And then he became the NFL MVP

when Trent Green tore his ACL five years later. I'm trying to think who that... That'd be like, not even, because Mitcherbisky started a bunch of games. Think about a player who got like... It'd be like Christian Hackenberg, but not even because he played at Northern Illinois or whatever.

Where do he played? Northern Iowa. I just don't think we'll ever see it again. Multiple MVP's. He won a Super Bowl. He went to another. He's in the Hall of Fame after, I don't think he started until he was like 29, 30 years old. Right? If he graduated in 94 and then six years later, five and a half years later in late 99,

so if he's 23 years old, I mean, he's 28, 29, 30 years old. It's an incredible story. I mean, elite quick release, good arm, accurate, perfect for that scheme. I just think he's a one-off. I mean, we just, they're just, this is not. happening again. Because even like Jim Plunkett, who resurrected his career with the Raiders and won Super Bowls in like the 80s after being a Heisman trophy guy drafted high in the early mid-70s, again, he was the Heisman trophy winner. Kurt Warner played at a small school. No one

knew who he was. It's just, I mean, it's why sports are so cool. What's up with the disrespect for the Titans organization? We get it, Ryan Tamichael isn't going to win the Super Bowl, but the fact that the Colts get Matt Ryan and all of a sudden are going to win the division is pretty wild take by most of the media. Titans have added Bobby Trees, that's Robert Woods, and Austin Hooper,

and most likely will draft another wide receiver to give Tany Hill weapons. They were a number one seed last year with multiple injuries and their defense is drastically underrated in the best safety combination of league, a top 10 pass rushing group. This guy's fired up.

Colts seemed to have a desperate owner on the verge of a breakdown, a GM who's massively overrated. He has a 41 and 40, 40 record with no division titles or playoff wins and a coach who's supposed to be a quarterback guru yet they've cycled through five straight years

with a new starting quarterback. I hear you. Don't fucking sleep on John Robinson and Mike Vrable. Those guys are winners. So I'm with you. Ballard, who I like. I think Ballard's really good, but their quarterback situation is what it is. It's been a revolving

door. I think we have to agree Matt Ryan is an upgrade and should stabilize that position. But until they win the division, which the Titans now have won, what, three straight years? Like Mike Vrable, when you say Mike Vrable, just say winner. When you say Mike Vrable, you just say badass. When you say Frank Reich, you go, oh, he asks the guy that was the assistant coach on the Eagle staff. That's the guy that filled in when Josh McDaniels quit.

You don't be like, oh, all he's done with Indy. No. Chris Ballard has done a good job of drafting, right? He drafted a guard sixth overall. We all thought he was nuts. The guy's a Hall of Famer. He traded for Buckner, the 13th overall pick. I thought he was nuts.

Buckner's been unreal. Darius Leonard in the second round. He doesn't coach the team. Now, it's his job to find a quarterback. Ursay is a nut job. But, yeah, I mean, the Titans are the team to beat. I'm a Titans guy. I'm a J-Rob guy.

I'm a Brable guy. Not a Tanyhill guy, but I'm a Derek Henry guy. I'm a huge Nashville guy. Big dreams of owning a pad there one day. Just love that fucking place. Been there once. had the time of my life. Which bottom six teams do you think could have a breakout next year?

Jaguars? No. Lions, no. Texans? Probably not. Jets? No. Panthers? No. Giants? No. None of them. I guess the Panthers have somehow they figured out their quarterback situation. Feels unlikely. To me, the Texans are just in complete rebuild mode. The lions stink. The Jags, their divisions, not bad. I mean, the jets are, or the, like you said, the Texans. they're just feisty, the Colts and Titans are just way better. Now, Doug is a huge upgrade from Fraud Meyer,

but I don't like any. I think all these teams are just continuing to kind of reset and rebuild. Mike from Philly, been listening to your pods for a month now and like a lot of your opinions in regard to NFL stories. Appreciate it, buddy. I'm a lifelong Steelers fan, and my question is if given the choice between Mitch or Baker at quarterback, who are you taking?

Baker Mayfield's a better player. So I think Mitch is a much better guy. Mitch is just a normal, likable player. Baker clearly rubs people the wrong way, whether it's ego, whether it's false bravado, whether it's arrogance. I don't know. But to me, Mitch, people like him. Baker clearly, it's very hit or miss on that.

No one's ever said Mitch is not mature, right? But Baker is dramatically better. Mitch is not an accurate player. Mitch does not have great touch. There are throws that Mitch Trubisky simply does not make. Now, did Brian Dayball and the bills just fix them overnight? Doubt it. But if they did, then it'll be pretty impressive.

Ultimately, when healthy, Baker is just a much better thrower of the football. Now, Mitch, better athlete, can move, has some positives that Baker does not, but ultimately you get paid in the league to throw the ball. And I just do not trust when Mitzchross back to throw the ball to the right spot. I've been a big Eagles fan all my life. Howe Your Osmond's been pretty bad making first-round draft picks. How do you think we should attack the upcoming draft?

Also, I see rumors about us trading for Devante Parker. I think Devante Parker's solid. I'd be lying if I said I've studied my. much Miami Dolphins film in Devante Parker. But he's clearly resurrected his career the last couple years. Not sure his contract status. But, you know, clearly how they wanted Calvin Ridley. And then it turns out Calvin Ridley was, you know, slinging bets at the local MGM and got

suspended a year. If they would have drafted like a second round pick for Calvin Ridley, they would have been in really good shape. I mean, Calvin Ridley with Devante Smith and Dallas Goddard and Miles Sanders, that's pretty good in their offensive line. It's a pretty nasty offense. I think that they're going to draft well. I know the Jalen Rager pick, they'd like a do-over,

but last year they drafted well. DeVonte Smith's going to be a stud. Landon Dickerson's a stud. You don't hit on every pick. You just don't. I think if they hit on two of these three picks, they're in great shape. They have a good offensive and defensive line.

If you have a good offensive and defensive line and just a capable quarterback, I don't love Jalen. But I do appreciate his work ethic and his drive and how much he cares. But their O line's good, their D-line's good. And if they hit on two of these three players, they're in good shape. Hey, John, love the pod. How did you start your career?

And what was your early steps you had to take to make it all happen? Wanted to learn how to become someone like you involved in the sports industry. Well, you basically give up your 20s. You don't make much money. You work all the time. One thing when you work in sports, whether you're a diehard football guy, basketball guy, basically, you don't, this isn't a Monday through Friday 9 to 5 gig.

And like my friends that went to real estate or, you know, finance or whatever, like you don't get 100 grand coming out of college. You ain't making six figures more than likely in your 20s. So you don't make any money. You work a shitload. Now, if you know what you're doing as you turn the corner in your 30s, opportunities arise. But the number one thing I would say to any young person, if it's what you're doing, you want to do. You got to put all your chips in the middle of the table and just grind, grind in your

20s. Now, for me, I kept doing, I didn't make that much money even into my early 30s. And then it kind of popped the last three or four years. But, you know, it's whatever quote unquote financial success or success of people listen to the podcast or whatever, I would say this did not happen overnight. It's something that I've been doing since 07, you know, 07 to like 2,000. 15, 17, 16, 17, just swinging my pick, digging ditches. The equivalent, I mean, obviously, it's talking, watching sports. It's not that hard. I mean, hard jobs is working construction.

Hard jobs. My dad was a farmer. Get on the hoeing crew in the middle of summer at 112 degrees and do that for 12 straight hours. Like, that's hard work. This is fucking easy. This is cakewalk, you know? This is white collar work at its finest.

But you guys. to put in the time and the time equity is the game changer. It's why it's hard to do it like get into it later. My credibility was built because I worked in the NFL and college football. And those were, you know, five and a half years of making nothing, working insane hours and giving up all my time. No girlfriend. I mean, I dated a little bit, but no like no life outside of that. I wasn't going to Spain for vacation. You know, I wasn't head to Cancun. You're just, I couldn't do it now.

But looking back, I was so invested, I didn't even see another option. You know, so I had to do it when I was young. And luckily, it worked out where it's working out. We'll see, you know, could change. What did Denzel say after Will Smith slap Chris Rock? The devil comes for you. Right when you're on top? Not saying that I'm on top by any means.

I don't feel at all. I don't even feel close to arriving. I feel like I'm just starting. like anyone should. You know, a lot of people like, if you would have told me 20 years old, a guy that's 37, how old, I feel so young.

If you're 20, you know how young? You know how much life you have? You know how many opportunities you have to fail? I'd say the best thing that ever happened to me for sure was failing. Getting fired. I tell you, I mean, getting fires by far the best thing that ever happened to me,

in football and then radio. Change my life. You don't fail, you learn? Isn't that the old adage? which it doesn't sound, it doesn't feel like that at the time, but usually looking back, it's the best area for growth. Try things. Invest a lot of time when you're young and just see what happens.

And you don't know. I mean, I'm not a big like mapping out my life. I'm just kind of go with the flow guy, but be all in when I'm, go with the flow would be probably a little loose, but just, you know, just quote unquote, be where your feet are. I know it's cheesy, but just focus on what you're doing and do the best job, and good things will happen if you try hard. Adios, have a good weekend. Peace. The volume.

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