The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Middlekauff’s Weekend Mailbag on Kyler Contract, Draft Needs + Prospects

Episode Date: April 16, 2022

John answers listener questions in his weekend Mailbag, including how the Kyler Murray contract drama will play out, if the Bucs have enough to beat the Rams, the recent social media backlash towards ...Adam Schefter, his thoughts on a host of team draft needs and prospects. Subscribe NOW and follow Middlekauff and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! #herdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:47 We do this thing called the Middlekopf Mailbank. At John Middlecough is the Instagram. at John Middletoff is the Instagram You slide up into the DMs And you get your question answered here On the mailbag Obviously this one's on the weekend You might be listening on Saturday You might be listening on Sunday
Starting point is 00:03:15 Who knows? I don't But all it cares is that you listen And we also do it I put another one on Tuesday's pod as well But we'll fire in the DMs And we'll answer the questions Hope everyone's having a good weekend And I sure I am too
Starting point is 00:03:31 But who knows, maybe I'm not Chris, question for the pot. Do you think it's at all likely that Kyler Murray could be using Cliff's contract extension as a little leverage in his own negotiations? The two have been attached to the hip since the moment Cliff was hired, and it feels like Kyler might be taken advantage of the fact that Cliff is so publicly enamored by him. It's hard to shake the memory of his gutless, love that word, playoff performance, and mind-blowing that he's threatening the Cardinals with a holdout after that. Also, how much involvement do head coaches typically have in a contract negotiation for quarterbacks they played a role in drafting? And do you think Cliff would be more wise to tie himself to even tighter to Kyler by pounding
Starting point is 00:04:13 the table for him again or letting the situation play out organically? That is a good question, my man. I think this is a complicated situation. Now, I have a checker history with the head coach in terms of talking about him. There are certain things in my life that have never changed and will never change, right? The way I was raised, the way I've told to act around just people, the way you treat people. Like, I've been thinking about that type stuff since I could breathe and walk and could cognitively communicate. Like, that's just never going to change.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I'd say the way I think about money has been pretty consistent for 25 years now. I would say football philosophies have been pretty, like what I look for in a football coach and the way I want a team to play hasn't changed for. a decade probably is not changing the rest of my life. Now, my food taste have changed, my clothes taste of change, my taste in who I'm dating of change. Like, some things change, some things don't. And me and Cliff will never see eye to eye philosophically on the sport. But he's probably been better than I gave him credit for, right? Made the playoffs his third year, had the best season of his career as a coach. But I do believe the Cardinals do not want to pay him. And that is not up to Cliff. Now, Cliff's influence, if Cliff still likes Kyler and maybe after last year got weird,
Starting point is 00:05:38 who knows? Maybe they're not in love with each other anymore. You still like each other, right? People get divorces can still like each other. Now, I don't think they're going to get divorced. He's going to be their quarterback, but they're not going to pay him. And the story they came out, like, is he going to hold out? It's getting weird. Eric Burkart, the agent who I like has come on this podcast a long time ago before the inception of the volume. And he's a good guy, even though I've been critical of his clients, like, we get along. I don't know. I've never, I haven't asked him.
Starting point is 00:06:08 But I would imagine Kyler is forcing his hand on this one the way he's doing this. Because it doesn't quite make much sense. I, I wouldn't pay him. And if I was Steve Kime and I was the owner under no circumstances, am I paying Kyler Murray. So I just don't think Cliff, like does Andy Reed, Sean Payton, Pete Carroll, obviously Bill Belichick, yeah, they got a lot of juice on who gets paid and who doesn't get paid.
Starting point is 00:06:29 In this situation, Kyle, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVey, like, those. Those guys got juice. I don't know if Cliff has much juice in this situation. And who knows? If you're Cliff, why would you want to tie yourself to him? I just play it out. You already are tied to them, right?
Starting point is 00:06:43 So why can't we just let this thing play out? Can you explain the difference in Hill leaving KC and Adams leaving in Green Bay? My Packer buddies don't blame Rogers at all for Adams leaving. I do. But I don't blame Mahomes at all for Hill leaving and they do. Well, Devante Adams wanted to leave. He told Goudicans,
Starting point is 00:07:02 Ann LaFleur called them up at the combine or maybe it was after the combine and said, I'm not resigning with you. I do not want to be a Green Bay Packer. Tyree Kill wanted and ultimately they said, okay. The chiefs made Tyree Kill a final offer that I guess was pretty good according to all reports. And he thought about signing it. He was blown away. He didn't think they would go that high.
Starting point is 00:07:23 Like, I think he likes Andy. Obviously likes Patrick Mahomes. Like, he just, they just got way more money. Like to me, Tyree Kill's situation is simply about money. the Chiefs were not willing to pay him as much as the Miami Dolphins. I know he wasn't a free agent, but then the Chiefs realized like, okay, we'll just go our separate ways. The Green Bay Packers did not want to trade Devante Adams.
Starting point is 00:07:42 Devante Adams told the Green Bay Packers, I'm out. I'm gone. It's over. So I just think those situations are different that way. I don't know the quarterback's one way or the other, they would have had, you know, I don't know how much influence either guy had, to be honest with you. good or bad.
Starting point is 00:08:04 I'm a huge Buccaneers fan and was wondering, is there anything the Bucks can do to take them over the top and just trying to win another championship? If we play the Rams again in the playoffs, I don't love our chances. Just want Tom to have come back for one, for a reason.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Thanks for being authentic, really enjoy the pot. I mean, I just, why wouldn't? They almost beat them last year. I know, listen, that game was weird. They were fumbled a bunch, but the Bucks could easily win that game. And if the Bucks win that game, like, I think the Bucks are much,
Starting point is 00:08:31 worst matchup for the Niners. They might destroy the Niners in the championship game. The Niners could not cover anybody and obviously Tom Brady slinging that thing around. So I think you guys are fine. You got Tom Freaking Brady. You know, you got a really good roster. You got an excellent GM. You guys are in good shape. I just think your roster, you're ready to roll. I'd be very, very bullish on my chances. Your division sucks. You're going to be a playoff team. Then take your chances. Home field advantage. You had. And you had, you know, an all-time back. game by your running backs putting the ball on the ground. Love the show.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Discovered it earlier this year. You may be blunt, but direct and honest, and you're fan of the game. I'm born and raised, a Charger fan, so I'm used to heartbreak. From getting torched by Jerry Rice in the Super Bowl, I remember that three touchdowns, to wasting a prime LT, rivers, and gates, and choking in the playoffs in the early 2000s.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I still have the bitter taste on how last season ended, but I'm hopeful. My question to you is on paper with the roster we have on both sides of the ball. Do you think we can make it to the AFC, make it out of the AFC West and make a playoff push? Football can't come back soon enough.
Starting point is 00:09:38 I agree. Yeah, I mean, your roster on paper is as good as anyone in the NFL. So to me, you should view yourself as a Super Bowl contender. Period, point blank, end of story, lock and load, buckle up. Let's try to win the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:09:53 You have a Super Bowl caliber team. Now it's going to come down to can you win the actual fucking games? Right? Can Brandon's Staley coach? because your team is loaded. Got a question for you. I know you're a big shifty fan.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Of course, he's great at what he does. I just wanted to get your opinion on some of the backlash he's gotten lately with reports like Brady retirement before Tom could say anything himself or even Haskin's tweet where he talked about his failures
Starting point is 00:10:16 along with his unfortunate death. You think he was out of pocket deserve criticism? Thanks, John. Keep up the good work. Well, to me there's no criticism in Tom Brady thing. His job is not, his job is to break the story.
Starting point is 00:10:30 And Tom Brady was going to retire. He had the story he reported it. And a couple days later, Tom Brady retired. Adam Schefter won. Tom Brady zero. Now obviously Tom came back, but Tom Brady retired. Like Adam Schifter, there is no criticism on that. That does not exist.
Starting point is 00:10:44 Like, Adam Schaefter won that one. Just because you announced something, obviously Tom lied. So I hadn't made my decision. He was lying. Like, to me, Adam Schaefter deserved no criticism there. Now, the Dwayne Haskins thing, yeah, is a poor choice of words? Like, we're humans.
Starting point is 00:11:02 We're allowed to make mistakes. He deleted it, moved on, put on an apology. Like, obviously, you know, you don't want to make a mistake when a guy dies. But I also think that the Twitter and our culture, like, especially the business he's in, it's just like, you don't get much time to think you just got a report. And ultimately, let's face it, again, like, it is, I can't even fathom a guy 20, 24 years old, dies. Whether he's an NFL
Starting point is 00:11:30 football player or he's just a normal human, you know, that just works a sales job. Like that's just he's married. He's parents. Like that's just you don't wish that upon anybody. That's a terrible, terrible situation. We all
Starting point is 00:11:46 agree. But I also think like Twitter, 15% of societies on Twitter. So yeah, like Twitter got mad. People got mad. I get it. They have the right to get mad, but does that really impact anything? Ultimately, it's pretty irrelevant. I love that Elon's pissing off everyone on Twitter, because at the end of the day, Twitter, TikTok, Facebook, like, LinkedIn, these other social media places dwarf, but Twitter, because the media is obsessed and addicted. And listen,
Starting point is 00:12:18 I fight it. I go on, I mean, I have addictive qualities with the app, though I hate a lot of the things I see. the media thinks it's the media gives away all their content for free but honestly Schaefter gives away a lot of I mean he breaks all this they how does ESPN monetize any of that obviously Adam makes a lot of money but now I'm getting off topic I yeah I mean it's just a mistake he made we all we all make mistakes I just I don't really have other than that like it doesn't it doesn't really impact anything it's kind of irrelevant like the other story that day was Gil Brandt who's 90 fucking years old
Starting point is 00:12:54 Who cares what a 90-year-old says? Honestly. Who goes for his opinion on something? Most 90-year-olds are not Warren Buffett cognitively. So everyone ganging up on Gil-Brant, like, he's 90. I don't, what he says, good, bad, indifferent, is irrelevant. To me, Gil-Brand, people should have got mad at serious. Stop rolling him out.
Starting point is 00:13:17 Stop putting him on your channel. But I don't blame Gil-Brant for anything. Because at 90 years old, I don't, who knows what's going to come out of his mouth. I expect craziness. If you just went around and asked the random 90 year old about different things in life, you would get crazy answers. So Schaefter made a mistake. He apologized.
Starting point is 00:13:38 What else can happen? And also he apologized to a tiny subset of America. To me, if like Twitter was Facebook and infinitely more people are on, I would say it'd be a bigger deal. Everyone feels that it's big. Now, Schefter has 10 million people following him or whatever. John. This is from Julia's Instagram, but he said, I had to use my fiancé's Insta to message you.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Name is Justin. Question for the bag. Which GM do you think is under the most pressure to do well in this draft or end up like Gettleman and never be allowed in the football organization again? Also, we live in South Tempe about a mile from the Cardinals training facility. If you ever need a place to stay while house hunting or visiting Arizona, we have a room. I'm getting invited
Starting point is 00:14:22 to go stay with my new friends Justin and Julia. Thank you. But, you know, I'm a grown-up. I can get a hotel room. You know, I don't want to, I don't want to intrude. So, especially, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:35 your fiance, you're not married, you know, who is this guy? What's this ball guy's deal? Wait, how do you know him? Yeah, I listen to a show. You know, it seems like a good guy. I could ruin a relationship before it even starts.
Starting point is 00:14:47 Most pressure in this draft that's a pretty good quote I'd say I mean it's not I think Guttikins is good and Gettelman's a joke but he is under some pressure I mean they have one of the best players in the league I mean arguably the best
Starting point is 00:15:03 and they don't have any receivers I mean they signed Sammy Watkins I'm recording this on Thursday because I might be playing a little golf on Friday and you know I don't know how many pops I'm gonna have so if I wouldn't know if I could do the mailbag so I record this Thursday afternoon that Sammy Watkins story broke
Starting point is 00:15:18 right before I was recording this but I mean, Sammy Watkins is not like, you're not Jerry Rice. He's just going to have to do it. If you have Apple TV, watch Severance to steal one of your favorite phrases, it's elite. I actually do have Apple TV because some of you guys,
Starting point is 00:15:34 maybe it wasn't even you guys, had recommended that We Work Show with Jared Leto. It is fantastic. I am, I'm like four episodes in. That show, talk about Elite. That show is extremely entertaining. Do you know that sometimes I get mad?
Starting point is 00:15:48 I'm like, I probably have like most of you listening, like 10 subscriptions, right? I got Hulu, I got Paramount Plus, I got HBO, I got, you know, Netflix, I got Amazon Prime, I got Comcast, my TV, you know, I got ESPN Plus,
Starting point is 00:16:03 I got all this stuff. But every once in a while, I'd be like, why am I paying for it? And I haven't watched Apple Plus since Ted Lasso. And I'm like, I wonder if I have Apple Plus and I went to it on my smart TV
Starting point is 00:16:13 and I had it. And then I went to watch it. I'm like, I'm glad I didn't have to sign up for this again. I just had it. So it's worth all the money I've been paying you know, Tim Cook and Steve Jobs.
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Starting point is 00:18:27 I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way, this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement
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Starting point is 00:19:38 Well, you can find out on the Look Back at it podcast. I'm Sam Jett. And I'm Alex English. We pick it here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. Including a recent episode with Mark Lamont Hill waxing all about crack in the 80s. To be clear, 84 is big to me, not just because of crack. I'm down to talk about crack on day, but just so y'all know. I mean, at this point, Mark, this is the second episode where we've discussed crack.
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Starting point is 00:21:23 Open your free iHeartRadio app, search Learn the Hardway, and listen now. I'm a big Chiefs fan. My family is Arkansas Razorbacks football season ticket holders. I've watched Trailing Burks be the best player in the field, maybe with the exception of when we played Alabama, for three years. I remember when I first saw him play. He was returning a kick, and I said, good Lord. Who is this guy? I like reading your questions like I'm
Starting point is 00:21:51 you know like reading a book to a class. My father-in-law told me that it was his freshman from Warren, Arkansas. I told him he'll be an NFL player. The guy's stood. My question, where do you think he goes in the draft? And could you picture a scenario where the chiefs could use some draft capital
Starting point is 00:22:10 and move up to get him? I know several people rated him between fourth and seven. I've talked to a couple people about him. They both thought that his, true value was like late one early two because he's kind of a raw product but like you said he is really talented and he can do a lot of different things now I think right now he doesn't do one thing specifically well and he's going to have to learn kind of how to play become a good route runner but
Starting point is 00:22:33 I can see the chief's taking him like pick 22 you know get that guy with Andy and my homes start molding him isn't it cool you know obviously if you're like Alabama or Ohio State you get you just get or Oklahoma season ticket to older, you're very spoiled. Like every year it's like, oh, who's this guy? Oh, that's Adrian Peterson. Oh, who's this guy? Oh, that's Kyler Murray. Oh, who's this guy? Oh, that's another Bosa brother. Oh, who's this guy? Oh, that's Chase Young.
Starting point is 00:22:58 Who's this? Oh, that's, you know, Jerry Judy, Amari Cooper. Like, most programs are pretty spoiled. I think it's cool to root for a program that's not like a consistent top 10 program. And when you get a guy like that, it is just awesome. You get to take a lot of pride in them. Then you get invested wherever he goes, if your team drafts them. But even if the Cowboys draft them or whoever drafts, them. You're going to root for that player the rest of your life. That's fun. I like this. Your head coach, Sam Pittman, big fan. That guy can coach. That guy, that guy, how about Arkansas
Starting point is 00:23:28 athletics? They got Eric Musselman is kicking ass and taking names. He's got one of the best college basketball programs in the country. I think he just landed like three of the top 10 players in the country, all McDonald's, all Americans. His team is going to be, I saw Jeff Goodman has Arkansas next year's the number one preseason team. Your football team is legit. You got John Daly's kid on the golf team. You guys, I think your baseball team is pretty good. Do not, do not sleep on Arkansas athletics. My name is Jacob Ramsey.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I'm a fellow NorCal dude, like yourself, from San Ramon, which, for those of you not, is right down the street for me. I've been listening to you since the Raiders post game, and I'm a big fan. I enjoyed your ham pod where you interviewed Khalil Shakur. We had on Boise's wide receiver, on my other podcast who's like, you know, probably like a third, fourth round guy.
Starting point is 00:24:22 He ran a four-three at the combine. High-level guy. Very impressive. I highly suggest Nevada's Cole Turner or Carson Strong. I played in Nevada in 18 while they both were freshmen. I like this. This is good inside information. Strong is from Vacaville and has an interesting story
Starting point is 00:24:39 in terms of recruitment and past knee surgeries. Turner is from Oregon and was a whiteout while I was there and he turned himself into a 240-pound tight end. Anyways, thanks for the great content. This guy was just shooting me a note. Like that. It's always cool. You know, if you're not going to be an NFL player,
Starting point is 00:24:57 but you get to play Division I football, like more than likely, I'd say the one thing that we don't have on the, like on the West Coast, beside the Pack 12, we only have a couple of schools. Right? For a lot of you guys, like, we don't have many Division I AA schools out here. You know, there is, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:13 going to Nevada, going to Fresno State, going to San Diego State. Like, that's a pretty big deal. If you, like if I was in high school and someone went to Fresno State, like some of our best players in Sacramento went to Fresno State. Obviously, when I worked at Fresno State, we were getting, you know, there's a big drop off. Like in the South, you guys have so many different divisions.
Starting point is 00:25:29 So if you play in Nevada, I mean, pump a bunch of guys in the league. What should the Carolina Panthers do with a six pick? Personally, I think they should take one of the left tackles available and trade down to get some day two picks and give Darnold one more year because of the current quarterbacks are no better. P.S. for once I agree with the Cowboys fan The Last Kingdom on Netflix is incredible must watch.
Starting point is 00:25:52 I'll have to check it out. Yeah, I think that they're going to end up with Jimmy Garoppolo. So Jimmy Garoppel is going to be the quarterback of the Panthers and they'll just end up taking other players. So my guess would be they take, yeah, offensive linemen, defensive linemen, they just improve their team. Listen to the Khalil interview, watch some highlights of the guy,
Starting point is 00:26:16 and comparing him to the theme, Eamquam Bolden in my mind. Gets open without being the quickest guy in the field. Not afraid of contact and has sure hands. What are your thoughts on those comps in general comparing prospects to guys in the league? Any good ones for this year's draft come to mind. I think comps,
Starting point is 00:26:35 I think you've got to be careful with comps because I think our first reaction is, and I was not great at comps, but you'd be like, I remember, be like, I think Robert Woods is going to be like Reggie Wayne. and you said you think that Khalil Shakur is going to be like Adam Thielen and if you think
Starting point is 00:26:51 you know Aidan Hutchinson is going to be like I don't believe this but let's just say I'll boast a brother. You notice most of the comps are always going to be really really good but there are only so many good players most players because you wouldn't be like you know I think this guy is going to be like
Starting point is 00:27:10 Cedric Wilson of the Cowboys or he's now in the Dolphins right? I think this guy's going to be a lot like Casey Keenham, Case Keenum. I think this guy's going to be a lot like some random de lineman. You always be like, this guy's like, you know, Ray Lewis, right?
Starting point is 00:27:25 I see a little Richard Sherman. You know, we do it in basketball all the time. This guy's like Draymond Green or Clay Thompson. No, probably not. I mean, that's not the case. So that's where I think comps are very, very hard because your comps always, like, used Adam Thielen and Anquam Bolden.
Starting point is 00:27:43 I mean, those guys are elite players. I mean, probably not Hall of Famers either one, but like Pro Bowls, touchdown make dominant players. Most guys in the league are not that. It's why, like, I remember Christian McCaffrey was coming out. And I was like, you know, I think he's going to end up being more of a receiver and be like Julian Edelman. Now, I was wrong when he was healthy.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Christian McCaffrey's way better. He's just, he's an elite player. Now, he can't say healthy. But I think trying to do that, I think this guy's like Hunter Renfro. But you just, you'd rather say, like, I think this guy's Cooper Cup. Now Hunter Renfro is pretty good. But you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:28:20 You always like, I think this guy could be like Josh Allen. No, probably not. I mean, Josh Allen looks like he's going to the Hall of Fame. What are your top five most accurate evaluations when you were a scout? What were the five least accurate evaluations? Well, when I worked in the office for two years, I did pro guys. So I only really did college for one year. And it was, you know, Dion Jordan, Robert Wood.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Woods like Kelsey Ifer you know it was the whatever 13 class lane Johnson's year but in pro you spend so much time doing pro you're really just like updating their grade right so like when people like I didn't do college for that long and I really got to just work on the road one year I was pretty good at it I was going to be like this is going to be a good profession for me but I didn't like pro as much because you're just I bored me but it made me a way better when I transition to college, I knew the NFL so well. And so most of my evaluations, like in my career, we're grading practice squad guys. Honestly, my greatest evaluation of all time was Andrew Sendejo.
Starting point is 00:29:31 He played in the UFL, I think that's what it was called. And I remember going, this guy's is good. He did not have a grade in our system. Now, he was never drafted. He probably didn't have a grade in anyone's system. but he was fucking unreal in this little league that had like the Sacramento Mountain Lions and you know the Omaha
Starting point is 00:29:51 Cornhusk the league lasted a year I remember going into Lewis Riddick's office I'm like this dude can play people are kind of making fun of me Saddam had like a 10 year career I knew it I knew it
Starting point is 00:30:05 I take a lot of pride in Andrew Sondale he doesn't even know it but if I ever met him I'd say I saw something in you. You didn't know I did, but I did. From Australia, your insight in the league and your takes on not only top stories, but also the visibility you provide
Starting point is 00:30:24 to multiple multitude of players. I'm a massive Patriot fan and was wondering if you think we need to prioritize speed at the second level of our defense or wide receiver in the draft. I think N'Cobi Dean is a beast, and if we want to go defense, I think he's a great pick.
Starting point is 00:30:40 Pretty sure he's smaller, and I don't know if Belichick loves smaller lineback. I understand we have a lot of work to do to be able to compete at the top of the AFC So our draft Who should we draft? Also, if you ever make it over to Cindy Sydney, I would love to go
Starting point is 00:30:56 Gambling is huge over here You'd love it. Sounds like my type place My dad used to go to New Zealand with his dad I never made to Australia but I did go to New Zealand once Love the Kiwis That's a good question I mean I would say receiver would be near the top of the
Starting point is 00:31:14 the priority. I mean, you've lost Gilmore and J.C. Jackson back-to-back years. So you're going to need to improve your DBs. I think you could easily take a DB. Probably DB or wide receiver. I mean, would if, you know, Soss Gardner, the kid from Cincinnati, he'd be gone. Stingley, who knows, maybe he falls. Now, your pick, you guys were a playoff team, so I would have made your picks in the early 20s. You could always take a wide receiver. Or just take linemen. Like last year, in the second round, they traded up. They got, what's the same? his name, Baysmore, is that his name? The detackle from Alabama.
Starting point is 00:31:47 That guy's good. Belichick had a good draft last year, partly because I think he's listening to his scouts. Novel concept. Keep up the great work. I'm a Gamecock alum and was wondering if you had any thoughts on Shane Beamer and what he is building at South Carolina. Getting Spencer Rattler has me cautiously optimistic,
Starting point is 00:32:05 but we have obviously been led down before. Curious to see what someone outside of a program thinks. Well, when he worked at Oklahoma, The guy that hired me at Freszo State still works at Oklahoma. He worked under Stubes. He worked under Lincoln and now he's under Venables. Loves him. This guy is well liked.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Shane Beamer is just a high energy, high level guy. To me, I don't really like Spencer Rattler, so I'm not putting that much stock, but I actually think you've got a good young coach. You know, obviously he comes from pretty special stock. I mean, his dad was, I mean, made Virginia Tech into what it was. So I'm very bullish. Now the problem is
Starting point is 00:32:44 Georgia is a powerhouse Kentucky is really good Your rival Clemson is always going to be better than you As long as Davos there Florida if this coach Which I think is pretty good Could be pretty strong
Starting point is 00:32:59 And Josh Heipel actually is not bad So years ago When the East was down And you had some of those moments With Spurrier You had those like three straight years I think of like 11 or 12 wins It's just going to get way harder
Starting point is 00:33:11 And then I don't don't know who your rival is in the other division, but you end up playing some of those teams that obviously, you know, the West is loaded. It's very difficult. I think it's going to be difficult. I think successful years in South Carolina, you win eight games and in bowl games and have like a big upset a year, right?
Starting point is 00:33:29 Be to Florida, beat a Georgia, beat up, LSU, like just one of those type wins a year. He's doing a hell of a job. I'm a fan of the guy. I've never met him personally, but I think I see a lot of his stuff on like social media. Feels like he's just a high level guy. Thanks for keeping it real.
Starting point is 00:33:46 I find myself looking forward to your podcast. You mentioned Leah Thomas a couple pods ago and then said something like the effect of it's probably not the time or place to have an opinion on this. And then you stop saying more. You chuckled though, which made me laugh a little too. My question, are you willing to share your thoughts on Leah Thomas charade on the pod or is it too polarizing?
Starting point is 00:34:04 I don't think it's polarizing at all. I think the majority of humans agree it's not fair for her to swim against girls. That is not a polarizing take. That's every single human I know says, yeah, that's unfair. It's not fair. She's going to win. She's going to dominate when she swims against the girls. Clearly, we live in a weird world right now where the NCAA is letting people.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Yeah. Haller, if you're ever in Vegas. Yeah, I mean, I just, it's unfair. Like, I mean, who's disagreeing with that, though? Like, to me, like, there's not, there's such a vote. And this is where Twitter, Twitter is such a small percentage of people. Who's really saying, like, that's fair? Like, nobody. No human is saying that. Now, the media is so, they don't have any balls.
Starting point is 00:34:49 They're scared they wouldn't say that. Because, like, they're just obsessed with all thinking the same, even though they all probably agree that, like, yeah, it's not fair. Love the pot. Where are you at on Aden Hutchinson? I watched him against decent to above average O' lines and didn't see an elite player. UGA pushed him around a little bit like a geek in high school locker room.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Yeah, I mean, I think he's solid. I would just be very hesitant. I talked about this on Friday show. That of the... When you say a guy has a really high floor, there is no guaranteed floor in the league. There just isn't. And he's obviously had a hell of a season.
Starting point is 00:35:34 He was really productive. Whenever you watch Michigan play, he was dominant, except that Georgia game. I haven't gone and studied the film, but the knock-on-executive. is he didn't look good, right? But there is no guarantee that you have to take this guy in the top 10, really probably the top five.
Starting point is 00:35:50 When you take a top five pick and that guy's not a consistent pro bowler, it does not feel great. Do I think this guy's going to go to pro bowls? Probably not. But is he going to be a really good player? Probably, but like Solomon Thomas and Cleland Farrell. Now, this guy's a better prospect than those guys. But there's risk in quote-unquote high floor, low ceiling guys. been listening to Pod for a few months and love it.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Non-sports question. I'm headed out to San Francisco next month for a vacation and wondered if you had any restaurant recommendations. I love to get some fresh seafood, but any food recommendations would be greatly appreciated. I think it might be the best pizza in America. It's called Tony's. It's in North Beach,
Starting point is 00:36:31 which is like the Italian area in San Francisco. It's where all the Italian food is there and it's elite. I would go to Tony's pizza. and I would eat. That would be my number one recommendation. For the most part, you know, San Francisco's been shut down for a couple years. When I lived there,
Starting point is 00:36:48 I wasn't really eating at nice restaurants. I honestly haven't been to that many, you know, of the super high-end restaurants in the city. I can tell you better ones like around where I live, but I'd recommend Tony's pizza. Appreciate everyone listening. Have a good weekend or maybe week coming up. And Godspeed, adios, see you.
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