The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - MNF Reaction, Worst Penalty of the Season, Raiders Finally have a Coach

Episode Date: November 14, 2023

John recaps the Monday Night Football Game by reacting to the three game winning streak that the Broncos are on, are we starting to see a little bit of the old Russell Wilson coming back, the issues surrounding Josh Allen and the Bills, what makes Dan Campbell a successful coach in the NFL, and is CJ Stroud a top contender for the MVP. Lastly, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. MNF Recap - 5:50 The Broncos are back - 13:00 Dan Campbell - 17:25 Robert Saleh - 21:30 Antonio Pierce - 24:25 CJ Stroud is an MVP contender - 28:00 The Browns and Watson - 39:45 The Patriots are toast - 44:30 Kyler is back - 51:25 Mailbag - 1:06:50 Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And when you do use that promo code, John, J-O-H-N, my name, $20 off your first pair of tickets. The Denver Broncos and Russell Wilson and Sean Payton just went on the road and took out Bill's Mafia. That is one of the craziest things I think we've seen all season. I did not expect it. I don't care how bad everyone writing off Buffalo, how bumpy it's been, how bad Josh Allen has been on Monday night football, even though it took them basically 58 minutes to take the lead in this game, which they did on the Josh Allen touchdown run, I thought, you know, listen, this Bill's team is a shell of itself, but they're not going to lose to Denver.

And then what happened at the end of the game happened. And before we dive into Josh Allen, and let's face it, on Monday night football this year and Sunday night football, he's been a disaster. Sean McDermott, listen, when you're the head coach, you are responsible for everything, especially all of your coordinators. And that situation at the end of the game with 12 men on the field

is an embarrassment if you're a head coach. It's one thing when you're coaching a Josh Allen or a Brett Favre, you know, a gun-slinging type player, Eli Manning went through this, and they're Philip Riff. and they're just throwing picks. You know, I think it's easy for us to be critical of the coach, but Sean McDermott is not telling him to throw it to the guy that's double-covered

or throw it to the underneath defender and hit him in stride. But when there is 12 men on the field in a situation like that, even in a dire situation, which the kicker should make with his eyes closed, and he misses, and it doesn't count and they get a second shot, I'm not saying that's the nail in the coffin because Sean McDermott has helped resurrect this franchise. I've known him for a long time. I think he's a very, very impressive guy.

What he's done with Buffalo speaks for itself. I mean, they were a joke before he showed up. They've rattled off, I think, 13, 11, and 13 wins the last three seasons. They've been right there in the mix as one of the best teams in the AFC. They haven't got over the hump. They haven't made the Super Bowl.

The hell, they've struggled to get to the championship game. That devastating loss a couple years of the Chiefs. Obviously, the loss last year of the Bengals. Tonight's about a bad of a loss as you can have. Given the way it ended. You got bailed out. Even though you deserve to lose that game. This world, and football is not about what you deserve.

It's a result-oriented business. And the fucking guy missed the field goal. But to have 12 men on the field in that situation, that's something as an ownership, group as a fan base, it's hard to forget that moment. And when you're in a situation as a team, let's face it, the AFC, you're going to need, I think, 11 wins to make a wild card, maybe 10. But when you're 5 and 4, you're like, hey, listen, we get to 6 and 4, we got the Jets coming up,

we're 7 and 4, and then we get this insane stretch of at Philly, at KC, Cowboys. even if we're seven and four and we lose all three games we're seven and seven we still got the patriots we still go to miami who we match up very well against like we can get to 10 wins still right now you're fucked like it's over like i'm sorry the bills never in a million years would have predicted this i thought a lot of people predicting the bill's demise at the beginning of the season were borderline on drugs they're not making the playoffs like it's over you can't lose to the Denver Broncos at home when you're one game above 500 and Thanksgiving is right around the corner and you have a stretch of football at Philly, at Kansas City, Cowboys. That's got to be one of the

tougher three game stretches in the league. I think I saw someone put up on Twitter that according to, I don't know if it was ESPN or whatever, they have the third hardest schedule remaining in the NFL. Bills aren't making the playoffs. Now big picture, Sean McDermott, does he design? He does he deserve to get fired, right? One bad year after all he's done? No, but these owners now, the amount of wealth that they're throwing into this team, the amount they're spending on this squad, the amount of money they have to fire guys. I would say he's in a little jeopardy. I mean, he made a pretty bold move this offseason after getting embarrassed by the Bengals when he fired Leslie Frazier. He took over the defensive coordinator situation. And now his quarterback, let's face it, has regressed. I mean,

he's throwing picks and listen this happens i remember it happened to brett farb you have a year but when you have a year and your team's not as good all of a sudden you look up you're eight and nine you're missing the playoffs and you go well we got one of the top quarterbacks and a big reason you're missing the playoffs is because of that guy and once you lose all these defensive players you need him to be a fucking ass kicker you need him to be one of the elites in the league where he's been and right now you're watching them, you're going, what is going on? Josh, where are you throwing the ball? And I get it. He's going to be more turnover prone than some quarterbacks because he's not

that accurate. And he's going to try some passes that other guys should never dream of pulling off, let alone ever attempting to pull off. That's part of the package with him. But right now it feels like a lot of those passes and those throws are not even close to being completed. It's like, what is, what am I watching? And I love this player.

I'm a huge Josh Allen fan. But he looks like a disaster right now. So the team, clearly the coaching, it's off. Twelve men on the field in that situation, that's as low level it gets in the NFL as humanly, it doesn't, it's like, that's as embarrassing as possible. Like it doesn't get any worse than that. But when your star quarterback, who is viewed as a top two or three guy in the league,

is throwing the ball constantly to the other team and your team just as a whole is not as good, this is what you get. And the bills are in complete shambles last night and this season, they deserve to lose that game. I mean, they were getting thoroughly, I thought outplayed most of the game. Cook could have had it felt like seven fumbles.

I mean, on the one big run where he fumbled and the ball bounced back to him, I think we all have to admit, I love football. I love everything that's part of the reality television show that is the NFL, that's about as lucky of a bounce as you're ever going to see. That was crazy. If we simulated that 100 times, a guy breaking through some defenders, getting the ball punched

out, how often that ball would bounce back to the offensive ball carrier, it might be 100. I mean, at most 3 in 100. So the chances of that, just him falling on it would probably be 10 in 100. let alone not having to break stride continue to run so you thought maybe the football gods were shining down on them but they clearly weren't and the bills are borderline screwed like i think there's seasons over when it comes to making the playoffs in the afc and on the flip side i'm guilty of this i crushed this team i thought from the jump some of the things sean

Peyton was doing some of the things he was saying. I'm like, this is, something just feels off. Was this just a money grab? Was this like a Jimbo Fisher, the Texas A&M? They just offered him, or Lincoln Riley to go to USC. They just cut him a check that he couldn't refuse. It's like, he's already rich, but it's like, hey, here's $90 million over five years.

Like, yeah, you know, I like working at Fox. I like hanging out at Manhattan Beach. I like my pad in Aspen, Colorado, but, you know, let's do it. I'll take your money, even though I don't even love your roster. I don't even know your general manager. And that's what it felt like. But one thing Sean Payton's starting to do is kind of have a little muscle flex.

And his team looks dramatically better than it did the first three or four games. I mean, obviously they've won three straight. I understand he was sick, had the flu. They just had their one bad game. But they beat the shit out of the Chiefs. I mean, the Chiefs, they turned them, their defense. From that game where they had 70 points scored on them, and let's face it, you get 70 points scored on you in peewee football, let alone college football, but the NFL, everyone's

going to make fun of you because they're going to view your team as a joke. And somehow he held this together. He got rid of some guys, shipped out Randy Gregory, Frank Clark, and held strong with Vance Joseph, which I thought was just never going to work. And now you look at a team that is kind of trending in the right direction. They're four and five. Like I said, they've won three straight games. I'm about saying I wouldn't pick him to make the playoffs by any means

But if he can just have this team around eight or nine wins It would be pretty impressive and the one thing that he has done That's not even debatable Is and listen I I'm supposed to hate Seattle I'm a 49er guy But I've always had a soft spot for Pete Carroll I love the way the Richard Sherman group The way they play defense their physicality

And I'm just a fan of Just electricity when it comes to my athletes. My favorite players as a kid were like Brett Farrf, Ken Griffey Jr., Barry Sanders, and Russell Wilson for three or four years was as special of a player as I've ever seen. Now, was it within the confines of the offense? Was it always his offensive lines fault that he was getting sacked? He was running into sacks.

Sure, I mean, he wasn't the easiest guy to play with. But he made magic happen. And that guy, really the last year in Seattle, and then the version we saw last year, it was like, what's going on? And clearly that version is probably never coming back. He's older. He's not as quick. I did think there were some moments tonight where you're like, hey, that kind of looks like

2017 Russ. I mean, the pass he threw the touchdown in the corner of the end zone, that had 2016, 17, 18 written all over it. And a couple of those little scrambles, which he's clearly not as fast as he once was. And the little rugby pitch pass, like that's something he was not doing when he was playing like shit. Now, he's never going to be able to live up to the contract. And if he hit the open market, no one would sniff that amount of money. But he's more than a serviceable starting quarterback right now.

I mean, against the Buffalo Bills on the road. Now, granted, they're missing several starting defenders that are out for the season. But you go 24-29 on Monday night football, throw a couple touchdowns. And just for the most part, wasn't in pretty complete control. Sean Payton deserves credit for that. For just turning this guy back into like, yeah, an above average player.

A guy that if my defense plays well, we can compete to win football games. Because he wasn't that guy the first couple weeks. And he definitely wasn't that guy in 2002 with Nathaniel Hackett. So when things are going bad, if we're all going to shit on him, you got to give the guy his praise,

you got to give the guy his flowers. Russell and Sean Payton, like pretty impressive little stretch of football from the Denver Broncos and if I'm a Bronco fan they're a group that let's face it

it kind of hit for a while because of the embarrassment that was everything that was becoming of the football franchise I'd show a little pride I'd walk into work tomorrow you know with your head held high

with your chest pumped out so impressive victory from Denver a couple other things around the NFL I was really thinking about this today because we're talking so much about Belichick and the Belichickian crew. I think one thing that those guys really struggle with

is having self-confidence in their ability to be authentic to who they are, but also coach. Because I think when they coach, they just try to act like Bill. But no one is truly wired. Hell, no one's wired like anyone else but themselves. We all have similarities and characteristics

that other people share. But every individual is so different. from every individual, even if we have, you know, a lot in common. And I think one thing that that New England crew always struggled with is ever figuring out who you are. And I think the only way you can ever figure out who you are, especially as a leader, is have a lot of confidence and belief in yourself. And I think watching that Charger Lions game and thinking a lot about it on Monday,

one reason I think Dan Campbell is really excelling is I think he's, I think he's, very comfortable in his own skin. I see a guy that is very comfortable with his strengths and weaknesses. No one's ever going to get him confused with being Belichick or being Bill Walsh,

being some Andy Reed schematical, you know, genius. That's not his deal. But that was never Bill Parcell's deal either. And who was the guy that taught Dan Campbell mostly everything he knows? Bill Parcells. He was a

Parcell's guy, played for him, and then worked for him as an assistant coach. But then when he went to work with Sean Payton, I was talking to this, about this with Colin on Sunday night, is I think he saw a lot of what Sean Payton could do. Unlike Parcells, Sean Payton's calling the game, but he also has an element of being really aggressive. And you saw Dan Campbell in that game going forward on fourth down. Whenever you watch his post-game speeches, he still has like this, I'm almost still a player vibe to him, but this leadership vibe that John Harbaugh, that Mike Tomlin,

guys like that have gotten so much credit, Mike Vrable for so long. And I think when you watch Dan Campbell, why he's having success, is I think he's just very true to himself. Now, obviously, they have a really talented team. He has good assistant coaches. He's hired well. His GM is good. Like, it's not just him.

But I think sometimes we've seen these guys get exposed really fast. they feel kind of fraudulent. And we've been talking a lot about that over the years with Brandon Staley. I think he's trying to be a football coach, right? Like thinking of what a good football coach would say in certain moments instead of just being himself. Well, of course, look at his experience at this level.

It's actually not that long. So it's harder for him to be authentic because to be authentic takes the self-confidence. The only way to build that is feel very comfortable in everything you're doing. And I watch Dan Campbell, I see a guy that, yeah, I've been in the league for 20 years. Player and a coach. I know what the fuck I'm doing.

Do I think I'm Belichick or do I think I'm Bill Walsh or Bill Parcells? No, not yet. But I think I'm pretty damn good. And my team reflects that. Because look at his record from the second half of last year to this season. That team is winning and they are winning a lot. When you watch that team, you go, the other thing that's objectively just, I mean, it's a fact right now.

When you play in a dome, Jared Goff's the top six or seven quarterback in the NFL. Get him outside. Different story. But you just watch them in a dome, he can go toe to toe with Justin Herbert. He can go toe to toe to toe with Patrick Holmes. Outside, Lamar Jackson, got problems. So as long as they're playing in a dome,

which they're going to play in a lot, because they literally play in a dome, and more than likely, they're going to win 13, 14 games, meaning they probably be the two-seed, very good chance. Very good chance to be strong. They do have a chance to be the one seed. I think the Lions, this is not Smog and Mirrors. The coach believes it, their team believes it,

and they definitely got the talent. And speaking of a guy, I was making fun of it last week about Robert Sala's beard. Last night, it kind of bothered me. And I got no problem. I understand, like, I make fun of Ryan Day

for coloring his beard, but I do understand recruiting, college football, little different animal. How you present yourself kind of matters, right? There's a reason Nick Saban is always dressed really nice.

I personally think it's a little overrated, but in the South, he's old school, I get it. So Ryan Day colors his beard probably wants to look a little younger when he's recruiting and based on the recruiting

it's working. It's not like it's not working. So while I can make fun of him being the spokesman for just for men, I get it. Like that's, he's being a salesman

as a college coach is a big part of your job. As an NFL coach, absolutely nobody cares what you look like. Whether you're fat, whether you're skinny, whether you're short,

whether you're tall, whether you're bald, whether you've got gray hair is everywhere. It does not matter one iota. It's completely irrelevant. I mean, the best coach in the league, Andy Reid, is a big boy,

and he's been big for a long time. The guy before him that was widely considered the greatest coach of all time is a short, lumpy guy named Bill Belichick. What you look like, who cares? And I was thinking about this, Robert Sala, unless his wife, if I own the Jets,

if his wife mandates that he colors his beard, then listen. Happy wife, happy life. But if she's got nothing to do with it, and honestly watching him, I thought, why is he obsessed with how he looks? You can't be worried about shit like that when you lose. Like, you don't have a winning record.

You're not like the number one seat. You're struggling, you're holding on for dear life to be above 500, to be a 500 football team. And you're coloring your beard? Like, what are we doing? You should be worried about one thing and one thing only. How do we get first downs? What can I do as a head coach working with my general manager to improve our offense?

I'm the head coach. What I look like is completely irrelevant, right? It does not matter. My team, my offense is broken. This guy we drafted number two overall, clearly is never going to live up to the billing, but he's sailing the boat right now. No one else can help us. We didn't trade for anybody.

How can I help? them and I do think that reflects like our priorities in the right spot and I like robert salla i'm a robert sala fan and i at first when i was making fun of them for the no gray hairs i was joking it really got to hit me last night like what are we doing what are we thinking about robert we're thinking about our next career in media you want to call football games for cbs or fox you know you're going to get fired is that is that what we're doing here because that's what it kind of feels like and on the flip side i think mark davis desperately wants for just Antonio Pierce to win some games and have to hire him.

I think as an owner, once you hire a coach to be your full-time head coach, the last thing in the world you want to do is go through that process again. Interview a bunch of people. You got to cut checks to pay people to go away. You got to, this guy's going to have a bunch of wants. You got to pay all his coordinators. Financially, it costs you a lot of money. You got to meet all these new people. It's a pain in the ass. The best. case scenario, Lions, hire Dan Campbell, it works and we go. Rams, hire McVeigh, Niners, hire Shanahan. You're just my coach for a while. I don't even have to think about, like, who are the best coordinators, who do I need to interview, we got to do Zoom, then we've got to fly to

them, then I got to fly to me. It's like, it's pain in the ass, right? You would always rather just hire the right guy and never have to worry about it. But when you do hire the wrong guy, you better make the move fast, and I gave Mark Davis credit for that. But just a couple years ago, and we've talked about this before. He regrets. He doesn't regret it, but clearly it did not work out when he didn't hire Rich

and he went with Josh McDaniels. He wants to hire Antonio Pierce. And listen, are the Raiders that much better that the same guys are rolling out there than when Josh McDaniels was a coach a couple weeks ago? They don't look that dramatically different

from a personnel standpoint. They clearly are playing harder and they 100% like this guy dramatically more. But like I watch Max Crosby. He's been playing this hard. whether Josh McDaniels coached him, whether Mike Mayock was the general manager,

whether Antonio Pierce is coached the team. The guy plays his ass off every snap, whether me and you were on the sideline. But there is a different energy when you watch them play. Now, it's going to get a lot harder. They still play the Chiefs. This week, they play the Dolphins.

Like, are they some real contender now? I wouldn't go that for. But if I'm Mark Davis, like, I'm two games in, I feel like I made the right move. And they're five and five. so they have seven games left. I think if he can get to nine and eight.

Now, I don't think nine and eight gets in the playoffs, but I think nine and eight gets in the job. Now, it might not be one of these six-year contracts, like Josh McDaniels got or Dan Campbell got. That's not going to happen. But maybe he gives them like a three-year deal, and Antonio Pierce is at minimum the coach for the next several years.

And it just kind of mellows everything out because they do have a lot of really good players. I mean, they got one of the best pass rush in the league, They got one of the best wide receivers in the league. They have other good offensive weapons. Like Jacoby Myers is a good player. Obviously, Hunter Renfro has proven he's one of the better slots. Josh Jacobs is a stud at running back.

They shouldn't have been as bad as they were. And I also think that reflects why so many executives and owners often butt heads with their head coach. Because coaches will do such short-sided things. Well, Brian Horier, he knows the offense. It's like, Brian Horner sucks. I don't care if he knows every offense that ever, coach in football is ever created. If we play this guy, we are going to lose.

That's a fact, Jack. We cannot start this guy in 2023 and think we have any chance to win, even if it's on the road against a team starting a division two quarterback. And you see Aiden O'Connell. Is Aiden O'Connell the next Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen? Of course not. But does Aiden O'Connell give them some life and give them some juice? Hell yeah.

So I'm rooting for Antonio Pierce, and I would say right now, just find a way to go four and three in these last seven games and the job's yours. Not going to say I called it, because the bold take of the week is just that. We get bold. We swing for the fences. But last week I said that C.J. Stroud and the Houston Texans would go into Cincinnati, and they would not only upset the Bengals, but C.J. Stroud would throw his hat into the ring for the MVP conversation.

Well, as we found out tonight, Josh Allen, he's not in it. Lamar Jackson definitely fell off. You know, Joe Burrell definitely still in it. But I would say, I don't think T.J. Stroud necessarily is going to be the MVP. But he's definitely the lock offensive rookie of the year. And he's got an opportunity to save a franchise. And we've been talking about this now for several weeks. If you're the Houston Texans, every day when everyone involved in that building,

And I'm not talking necessarily players, but every executive, every coach, when they, you know, pull out their badge and go in that side door, however they get in the office, they're lucky to come into work. Because in the NFL, when you don't have a quarterback, you really got no chance. You know, it takes, look at what the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing. They're holding on for dear life every single week. When you have one of these guys, you can win every single way. And think about this, like, if he just,

maintain this level of play the next 10 years, you're an awesome position. Like this is, that's all, wait, you're just going to throw 35 touchdowns a year? You know, this is all you're going to do, is just do this, you'd be fine. He's going to get better. There's a natural improvement that happens

the more you do anything. The more you experience something, the more, I don't care what you do, the more comfortable you will be at doing that. It doesn't mean it's not always going to be this easy. He is going to have. some games like he did against Carolina. He's going to have a game where he throws three picks.

But his high end, it's not even disputable at this point, is really freaking high. He throws, I mean, an absolute beautiful ball. And I'll say it every single week that that ability to layer throws between defenders is just a game changer. And the other thing like watching Josh Allen tonight, when you have a howitzer, right, when you throw 100 miles an hour, when you have Brett Favre or Josh Allen's arm, when you hit, you know, if you're a golfer

and you're Bryson D. Chambot and you can drive it 360 yards, you're always going to lean on that. But you're also going to get in trouble with that, right? There's a reason Brett Fav and Josh Allen throw some picks that other people wouldn't even attempt to try because they don't have the arm capability

to pull that off. Well, that's what makes guys like C.J. Stroud, which really is more in the world of, I'm not comparing him to this player But of the Peyton Manning, I would say Philip Rivers He's got a good arm But he's got to hang his hat on accuracy, timing And that's how he's going to win

Now he'll push the ball down the field But he does not by any means have some howitzer And I think timing, rhythm and this offense I remember a guy, and I think I've said this on the podcast That is part of a franchise that interviewed And ended up hiring one of the Shanahan guys and the way the Shanahan guy described the offense is we're going to need the quarterback. We're ideally going to run the ball more than we pass it.

And if we pass it 25 to 30 times a game, 50 to 60 percent of those passes are going to be baked in layups, right? Boots and waggles on the movement, dumping it off to the running back, dumping it off to the tight end, or even dumping it off on a crossing route. It's a built-in, essentially a one-rout concept in the passing game. It's very easy. It's why if you're a good player, you can inflate your numbers that way, i.e. Matt Ryan, honestly, kind of what Purdy's doing. But you do have to have, whether it's 12 throws of games, whether it's eight throws a game, and with CJ it's a little more because they're throwing it a little more. But we don't need you to have these Peyton Manning just 50 attempt games, right? Josh Allen has him, Mahomes has them.

That's not the way the offense is necessarily built. though he's proven because of his training at Ohio State, like, hey, I can throw the ball a shitload. I like to. I'm comfortable doing that, and I'm accurate enough, and I have a good enough understanding of where to go with the ball that it's safe to do it.

Because a lot of quarterbacks don't mind throwing the ball. You just can't trust him in that situation. And he's proven time and time again that he can be trusted. The other skill you have to have is whether you get sacked, in an inopportune time, whether you throw a terrible pick, you have to have basically a memory like a goldfish. You have to be able to forget fast. You cannot worry about what just happened,

because it can derail you. Mentally, it can break you as a quarterback. Because when you get back in the huddle and C.J. Stroud, I guess it technically wasn't a pick six, but it might as well been. When he makes just a devastating, what looked like at the time, interception, he could go into the tank.

But ultimately, when you get the ball back, you go back in the huddle, and all 10 guys are looking at you. So if you're sulking, if your head's down, which actually would be pretty understandable, 22, 23-year-old rookie, keep your head high, show confidence. That's what all the top quarterbacks have in the back.

They're unfazed by that. They got the bulletproof skin. Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, they're not phased by a mistake. And he's showing that pretty young. So if I'm a Texans fan right now, I don't know, man. It's, it'd be hard to be much more excited than you are. Let's go to a little Morgan and Morgan right now.

The player who made it look easy. And I've been critical on this guy. I've talked a lot of shit about him. But I got to give Russell his flowers. I mean, Russell Wilson, 2429, the first touchdown throw he had in the corner of the end zone, that looked like vintage Russ. That looked like the guy that you went middle of his Seattle career.

This is going to be a first ballot Hall of Famer. Well, the conversation changed a little bit the last couple of years, but Russell's really, I give him a lot of credit because not only would have been easy to go in the tank, and listen, some of his positivity can drive guys that, you know,

can lean a little negative like myself, a little nuts, but he just kept swinging. And he's definitely improved over the last couple years. and it feels like in a short period of time, I'm trying to overreact here, resurrecting his career a little bit, at least getting the train back on the tracks.

And for a long time, and I'm as guilty as anyone, I thought that train, like movie style, flying off the bridge down into the gully, full of water and rocks blowing up. Like, I thought it was over. And now it feels like it's just back on the tracks headed in the right direction.

And for a guy that they owe a lot of money, there's been a lot of conversation about, you know, are they going to trade them, Peyton Hatham, and I've been part of that conversation. 24-29, a couple touchdowns, lead him on a game-winning drive, just being kind of in complete control most of the game, just looking. I wouldn't say like his peak self, but just like a solid NFL quarterback is something I didn't see coming.

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Not the guy we've seen this year in Oakland or Vegas, but just a middle of the road with some above-average performances and let the defense cook. And early on in that game, and honestly, through the second half, it's 24-9 after Beckham scores, you're like, God, Cleveland, their quarterback situation is a disaster. Now, your boy, like many other people on the social media streets, might have been talking a lot of shit. And then they came storming back. Now, Lamar Jackson had an awful pick in the second half.

The Ravens just kind of stumbled. And Deshawn Watson was awesome. and relative to his Brown's career, easily the best Brown's performance for him. You know, 14 of 14 in the second half, he ran in a two-point conversion. He threw a touchdown. And ultimately, they don't even need him to be that good

against most teams. Obviously, the Ravens are one of the better teams in the NFL, but they're going to play teams that aren't that good. They just need him to be middle of the road. And I just saw before I started recording, he's having an MRI on his ankle. He's pretty beat up as a play. player, right, from potential concussion to shoulder injury, now an ankle injury.

They just need him to be solid. They don't need him to be, as Dabo Sweeney once said, Michael Jordan or Superman. Just be middle of the pack. Now, they're not paying for middle of the pack, but we've talked about the cap implications. Their team is so good on defense. Miles Garrett, to me, is easily the defensive player of the year so far this season. Their DBs are awesome. I mean, Newsom that pick six.

Now, it fell right into his arm, but that ability, they're a fun team to watch on defensively. Now, offensively, the quarterback play, when it looked like PJ Walker was going to come in for a second. I do think that's a better win for the Browns than it is a bad loss for the Ravens. Though, you could argue you're up 24-9 at home in the second half. And you're a fucking powerhouse. You can't lose the game. But divisional games, weird stuff happens. Their quarterback, we can't forget.

He is owed after, you know, the beginning of, of this year, $229 million. So at one point in time, he was a really good player. But props to Cleveland, props to Stefansky, there's a lot of pressure on this franchise, right? Simply, they're just this. Because if they were to miss the playoffs, which it doesn't look like they're going to,

coaches for sure fired, you could argue depending on how it looks in the playoffs, a lot of heats on Stefansky, Jim Schwartz, the defense is awesome. If they were to fire Stavansky, you'd think they would just elevate him It's kind of been his MO in his career to try to max damn a little bit. He attempted to do that to Doug Peterson, but then Doug won a Super Bowl.

I don't know if that's going to happen to Stafansky. I don't think the Browns are going to win a Super Bowl, but if their quarterback play is just solid, their defense is so good, I don't think it's out of the realm possibility that they make some serious noise in the AFC playoffs. And let's face it, yesterday was a freaking great day for them. Bengals lose at the end of the game to the Texans. They are playing the Ravens, right? So two teams that they're trying to catch,

I wouldn't put my money on them winning the division, but when your defense is that dominant and at any moment can score, can create a turnover. I don't know, man. I saw this team beat the shit out of the 49ers. Not a big... People think I'm an Ohio hater. I don't like Ohio State.

Nothing against the brows. I actually have a lot of respect for the passion of their fan base. Not a big Deshawn Watson guy after everything that happened. Not going to find myself rooting for him, but likes DeFansky. Jim Schwartz clearly is a fantastic defensive coordinator. Not a huge flying J guy either.

Not rooting for that ownership. But the Browns, if I'm a Browns fan, I'm pumping my chest high and the Ravens, God, they always do this. Every time you're like, oh, they're in cruise control. Nope, not so fast. Lamar, you can't turn the ball over. You can't, and that's kind of always been as bugaboo in some of these big spots. That's why they've underachieved in the playoffs.

I was picking him to win the MVP a couple of weeks. weeks ago. The great part about football, man. You only get one of these a week. Things change really fast. Opinions change. It's very fluid. It's like the stock market. You can't just own yourself to one take because at a moment's notice, an injury, poor play can derail you. I mean, Ronnie Stanley goes down in that game. Who knows his status? Now what's going on Thursday? They play the Bengals. Pretty big game for both those teams. I mean, borderline must win for the Bengals, given where they stand in the standings in that division. Speaking of must-win, there are no must-wins anymore for New England.

I watched way too much of that game. Another an embarrassment. And I remember when the 49ers fired Jim Harbaugh, they claimed mutually departed and they went to Jim Tom Sula and then the Chip Kelly. The fan base became very apathetic. You know, it was like, we're not going to consume this. You're not going to make money off us.

We despise what we're watching. And it's different in New England because Bill is still there. and any New England fan, we've argued a lot about this on the mailbag over the year, about Patriot fans, like, I'm sorry, you gotta suck it up. These you suck, but you had 20 freaking years that every single fan base would sign up for gladly.

So this is usually how it goes. But it's as ugly as it possibly could be. I mean, their offense is literally unwatchable. Mac Jones is an unwatchable player. At least if you're a Bears fan, you're like, well, we got two picks, They're going to be in the top five or six. We're probably going to get the number one overall pick.

We're going to fire Eber Fluse. So, yeah, this franchise historically, you can't put much faith into them, but at least we're about to have hope. Like the Patriots right now don't feel that hopeful. But the only thing to hope for, and listen, I'm a pro Belichick guy. I will defend him because I think it's so easy. And I told Coward this on Sunday night, and I'll say this till the day I die. Well, what's he without Brady?

Well, what would Walsh have been without Joe Montana? What would Mike Holmgren Ben in Green Bay without Brett Farve? Right, Tony Dungey's in the Hall of Fame. You might want to shake Peyton Manning's hand. Sean Payton just got $90 million from the Denver Broncos. Thank you, Drew Brees. Mike Tomlin hasn't won a playoff game in a long time. Last I checked, when he had Young Peak Ben Rothersberger,

rattling off a lot of victories. I mean, making some runs in the playoffs. So to be a good coach, you have to have a good quarterback. John Harbaugh won a Super Bowl Joe Flacco got as hot as humanly possible Same thing with Tom Coughlin Eli Manning For a month and a half straight

Became the best quarterback in the league So to be a good coach To be a championship winning coach You need a great quarterback You need a Hall of Fame guy Or a really good player To get just otherworldly hot So I'm not acting like Belichek's the village idiot

But listen Everyone in the business I used to work in will say, like, people when they were winning championships wanted out. Why? They didn't pay that much money if you were in scouting, and he didn't listen to you. So you just were kind of irrelevant. Now, you got to build your resume because you worked for the Patriots. You probably got a Super Bowl or two, and it changed the course of your life.

But when you were there, it was miserable. But it was worth it. Like, there was a light at the end of the tunnel. There was some gold when you were digging. You're like, I see where this is going. This isn't just a pointless exercise, which can happen sometimes. times in football. As a player, as a coach, as an exec, in the NFL, when you're part of shitty teams. You're like, what is the point of any of this? And with New England, there

always was a point. We're going to the AFC championship. More than likely, we're going to Super Bowl, and there's like a 40% chance we're going to win the fucking thing. Those days are so long gone, it's not even funny. They're an embarrassment. And I've said this over and over with Bill, and I get it, like he's comfortable around his people. I've known some old people that had a lot of money. They usually don't change their ways, become more progressive and open-minded in their 70s. It's not the way the world works.

They usually stick with what's got them there. And a lot of times, as the world changes in any industry, that can be your downfall. You've got to be willing to pivot. Like, ultimately, Pete Carroll, he's a good example. Like, Pete Carroll hadn't changed at all. He just literally got rid of Russell Wilson. He shorted Russell Wilson as a player.

Turned out he was right. Then they hit on a bunch of draft picks. after that trade, and they already had some impact players. But Pete Carroll's the same guy. His coaching philosophy has changed at all. Their change and their pivot back to success was just punning on Russell Wilson and being right about it. Belichick has been wrong basically everything he's done,

from Matt Patricia to Mac Jones to even Bill O'Brien this year. Nothing's working. And I think that's a good example of the only coaches he will go to are people he knows. It's like, bro, you have to look outside yourself, but he's proven. Like, it's pointless to even say it. He's never going to do that.

He never will do that. The other conversation is like, just get him a GM, get him a guy. He's not listening to anybody at this point in time. Like, just fire him. Just move on. We all know. Anyone who was dumb enough

beside a Colts fan or Patriot fan to get up early, for those of you on the East Coast, not that early, for those of us in the West Coast, you got to make a little bit of an effort to watch the first half of that game can't watch that game and think

like yeah I'd give Bill another go-around his resume speaks for itself but he's been paid for that he was competent that's what the money was for won a lot of games was paid a shitload of money is still paid a shit load of money but they're headed for two or three wins and Mack Jones is just an unplayable guy

and I'll say this till I'm blue in the face drafting him at 15 is a joke I said it when Kyle Shanahan thought about drafting him at three that would be the most arrogant draft pick of the history of professional sports. Luckily, he didn't do it, and the guy he drafted is a third stringer. All those quarterbacks suck.

But to me, Mac Jones, historically, is like a third or fourth round guy. And just because you have success at a powerhouse program, doesn't mean you're going to be good in the NFL. His traits did not translate, especially when you don't have much talent around him. And we're seeing him get worse and worse.

And that's part of, anytime you lose confidence, I don't care what you do. in life, let alone play quarterback, which is extremely hard, you're going to have no shot. And he doesn't have any confidence. He doesn't have the skills to overcome that. And you're watching a guy who's destined to be a backup. That's what Mack Jones is. And there's nothing wrong with that.

It's a hell of a profession. Ask Chase Daniels what it's like to be a 14-year backup. Make a lot of money. I mean, you get to do some fun stuff. Not everyone's meant to be a starting quarterback. Let's face it. I'd say 10, 10 of the starting quarterbacks are typically guys holding on for dear life their starting quarterback.

There's, of the 32 guys, there's 12 to 14 that are just, they're starting quarterback. Definitely seven or eight that you feel really good about. The next seven, you know it's very hard to upgrade. And then everyone else, you're constantly looking, and we'll upgrade at the moment's notice. And Mack Jones, at the bottom end of that, really trending toward being a backup. Just like Baker Mayfield, there's like a lot of these guys, Sam Darnold, and there's, listen, you're in the NFL. You're one of the best 45 quarterbacks.

That's what he is. but when you expect him to carry and make plays for a good team, everyone's like, I can't believe he made that pass to end the game. You can't? Have you not been watching him? That is the pass that he throws right to the other team. Whoever is wearing the different color, the other jersey, in big spots, that's who gets the ball. The Patriots aren't going to catch the ball.

Someone else on the other team is. I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm not trying to be even sarcastic or make fun of them. That's just an objective fact. He throws the ball to the other team constantly. And a team that is just not very talented has no shot. So let's face it, Bill has not been a GM these last several years. His coaching staff has been abysmal, been bottom in the NFL.

And now his quarterback play is atrocious. So, yeah, this is what you get. And if you're the crafts, what would Bill have done this version of Bill Belichick in his heyday? Fired him. Belichick's getting fired or traded or just not the coach of the Neville. New England Patriots. Something that was kind of a bright spot. And listen, I've, I defended this move because I was like, I think there's a lot of

good that can come out of it. The one negative is he gets injured and you owe him a ton of money, but you were already cool with doing that when you paid him the contract. So when Kyler, and let's face it, all these organizations, the coach and GM only have so much power. If the owner wants to do something, the owner's going to do something. So the moment owner signed Kyler Murray to that check and that contract, like he was going to get some shots, as he should.

So when Kyler Murray was named the starting quarterback essentially this week and then played yesterday, like one, he could look good and become a tradable asset. Two, he could look good and you like them and you just keep him. And to me, that outweighs any of the negative stuff because you were already cool when you paid him the money that the whole thing could be a disaster. Hell, they knew it when they did it because they gave him the video game contract

or clause in the contract. So yesterday, I was pretty impressed for a guy that hasn't played in a year. to go 19 to 32. And to me, the impressive part is physically, I don't know if he's 100%, but he's definitely closer to 100 than he is 7580. He looked explosive as a runner. Here's the thing.

Like my issue with Bryce Young, I just don't see anything, right? I think for him to be a solid player, he's going to have to have the perfect team around him, perfect coach. Kyler's attributes are elite. He has an elite arm. He has elite speed.

He's a really accurate quarterback. He can throw from the pocket and without. Now, he's not, I wouldn't stake my claim as the number one guy I would want, but I do understand why people like him. I've seen him, hell, I've seen him light up the 49ers. I've seen him light up a lot of good teams over when he's playing well. He is a big time talent. And I think you saw some of that on display.

Now, the one negative of playing him is you're going to win a lot of. of these swing games. If Kyler Murray doesn't play against the Atlanta Falcons, no matter how big of a disaster their kind of quarterback turnstile situation is, Arizona loses. You play them in a lot of these games, like when you play the Rams, when you play teams like Atlanta,

that could be the difference of six wins or three wins. And I think they're cool with doing that because that's probably a positive for them. They got a couple picks because remember they traded down with Houston, so they have their pick, which probably going to be like in the early 20. So if their pick ends up at 10, you got two picks in the top 20, and maybe just keep Kyler and roll with it.

I think that is definitely on the table. And if you want to, you always could trade him. And he keeps making plays like that. You don't think the Atlanta Falcons or one of these teams will give you, I don't know, his contracts big, but two-twos and a three, maybe you get a one, but you definitely, because of the, if they take the money, I think definitely get some second round picks. so you could reload, pivot, and draft one of these quarterbacks

and just kind of restart your franchise. So I think their options are plentiful. And to me, a lot of good options. Like I said, if I was a betting man right now and we only have one game to go off of the way they named them a team captain, maybe they like them. Maybe that's not fake.

Maybe they legitimately like them as a guy because we can only go off our experiences around other individuals, hearsay and perception from other people. obviously that can influence us but then once we're around the guy if we do like them and things are going right why wouldn't we feel strongly about that individual

now you got to prove it over time when there's a lot of negativity surrounding you as there is with Kyler with some of his previous relationships with the head coach and some of the teammates but maybe he's doing a really good job and let's face it if you're a competitor some of us guys mature a little later

if you get humbled in the way he did like everyone was talking shit about him and a lot of it was self-reesome inflicted from the video game clause to the way he acted to just the whole situation to getting everyone fired like ultimately those guys were fired because of him and maybe it's humbling as a young guy maybe it makes you look in the mirror and want to change and want to improve and sometimes that happens like not everyone that was yeah this guy's kind of a d-bag just a d-bag for life some people change like actually this guy's really grown up that can't happen so i i'm not saying that has i don't know i don't

have any inside information here. Jonathan Gannon is not my buddy, but I do think that is potentially on the table. A couple quick college things. First and foremost with Jim Harbaugh, if you're going to make a decision as a leader, have some

fucking balls. Like, if you are going to follow the mob, and there's nothing I respect less than people to just follow the mob from leadership positions, like have conviction in what you want to do. Don't get influenced by the yappers. by everyone talking, whether it's companies based on social media,

whether it's all these coaches to Tony Petiti in the Big Ten. If you want to suspend them, listen, that's your prerogative. You're in that position. Do it. But suspend them. Like, you're suspended for the end of the season. You can come back in the playoffs or whatever, right? Because we don't have any jurisdiction over that.

But every Big Ten game moving forward, you're not allowed to coach. I wouldn't necessarily agree with it because, as I've been saying forever, everyone's cheating. Welcome to business. Every fucking person's pushing the envelope. Some people push it farther. But I'm watching the show on Uber. Right now on Netflix, highly recommend it.

It's a good watch. The coach from Friday Night Lights plays a big role in the show as an investor in Uber. But it's like they would not have became what they became without pushing the envelope. Some of it you could argue was illegal. But all these companies that are running America

probably did a lot of illegal activity. Right? just like you, if you're listening to this and you run a small business, you've done things that can make you uncomfortable, right? You're like, ah, should we do this? And sometimes it works out great. You look back five years and you laugh about it. You're like, can you believe when we did that?

That's the way the world works. The action's on the edges, baby. So I don't have an issue with what they did because I also think everyone's doing it, at least two degrees of it. So anyone acting high and mighty, I'm just calling bullshit on. But when I look at the suspension, like, You can't let him coach during the week and then suspend him on game day. That is just gutless.

And I don't have, I don't know anything about this Tony Petiti guy, but all I need to know is the actions which he gave on the suspension. Like he was forced from the coaches to do something, but he didn't want to go all the way. Because he didn't think he could. Maybe he didn't have the evidence. I don't know.

But he didn't do it. So I just think it's so stupid. And hopefully for all of our sake, like listen, I, full disclosure. I have no problem telling you my biases. I hate the Lakers. I don't like Ohio State.

Honestly, I don't really have a problem historically with Ohio State. I just don't really like Ryan Day. I don't even know why. I just don't really like him. Maybe it's the way he dyes his beard. Maybe it's, as Harbaugh said, born on third base. I don't really like his coaching style. They've been better this year defensively, obviously.

But I just can't get behind it. Chip Kelly guy, I don't know. I root against them. But this is even my bias for Harbaugh, which I am a fan. I just think it's stupid. and I don't know how you couldn't disagree with going either fully suspend them or do nothing and wait for the quote unquote due process to play out.

USC is a joke. It really is. And anyone that listened to the podcast with Coward that I did on Sunday night, I do believe this. I'm not just saying this. If I was Lincoln Riley, I would look at USC and be like,

listen, this is not going to work out. I belong in Texas and go to coach Texas A&M. I think that would be a much better fit. And I do believe, I'm not just saying this. Like, it doesn't work. And I've believed this for a while. Where you're from in college football influences how high your upside is. It's why where I'm from, the Pac-12, the West Coast,

most of our best coaches have been West Coast guys. Pete Carroll, born in San Francisco, went to University of Pacific. Chris Peterson, Jeff Tedford, L.A. guy. UC Davis, Fresno State guy. So when he kicked ass at Cal and he kicked out at Washington and Boise State, that's where they're from. Michael Blotty, coached Oregon that resurrected that program. You know where he's from? Went to UC Davis.

No different in the South. Kirby Smart, where do you think he's from? Steve Spurrier, where do you think he's from? Nick Saban's dad owned a gas station in West Virginia. Fits the South, understands the South. Where's he had success? LSU Alabama. In theory, Jimbo should have worked, but he just lost his touch or maybe he was always kind of

overrated, but Jimbo's only going to work in the South. Dabo Sweeney, where does he work? The South. So to me, where you're from matters. And this Lincoln Riley thing just doesn't work. USC needs a little juice. He hates defense. The program was built on defense. In his heyday, they had like all 11 of their guys were NFL players. And not just any NFL players, highly drafted NFL players.

So I don't think it's going to happen, but I just don't see him turning it around. and I just don't see it working out. I really don't. And it's nothing against the guy. Philosophic, we don't exactly view football the same way. But I have always been a Lincoln Riley fan. And I think for him to have, the Southwest is where he belongs from Texas,

had a lot of success at Oklahoma. To me, he would have much more success at Texas A&M. And honestly, Lane Kiffin makes a lot of sense at USC. More of a bright light sky, more willing to just handle everything that comes with it. Like, he's peaked at it. old miss. You win eight, nine games. You get them ranked in the top 25. That's as good as that program is. And I know he's been at USC before. I know he got fired on the tarmac, but

I personally, I think those two fits make a lot more sense than Lincoln at USC. And Lane, I got news for your Ole Miss fans. He's been trying to get out for a couple years. Now, he's got some baggage off the field, makes him 80s uncomfortable. When Dan Landon got the job at Oregon, Lane wanted it, and they went with Lanning over Lane. But Lane's a legitimate head coach. uh jaden daniels his stats are stupid i watched a lot of that florida lSU game i'd be lying if i've watched much of lSU the last probably month obviously i've seen the guy's stats watched him early in the season i mean i followed his career he's from asu sometimes a transfer portal the smartest thing you can ever do like here's where i respect a lot of people have all these opinions on nil and transfer portal

like jaden daniels think about the guy started at asu a program that sucks Herm Edwards has been cool to me whenever I've been around him but think about this. Herm Edwards coached ASU for five years. He gets fired, he goes back to TV and you go, God, I bet five years in college football, the Pack 12 recruiting, they don't let him touch anything in college. Why?

He doesn't know anything. He didn't even know the players on his own roster. So Jayden Daniels gets out of there, goes to LSU and has become, I don't want to say the Heisman frontrunner because I think betting-wise, Bo Nick still is, but he's having an incredible season. And for a team, I mean, LSU to me, when I think about him historically, really good defense. That ain't the case here.

Without him, who knows where they'd be. I have a lot of respect when guys transfer to better schools. Isn't that the point we all want to do better for ourselves? If we're in a shitty neighborhood, what do you want to get to? A better neighborhood. If you're making 50 grand, what do you ultimately want? 150 grand. If you're making 200 grand, what do you want?

600 grand. You're always aspiring for more. So if I'm at ASU, why wouldn't I want to go to LSU? and before that was you were allowed to transfer but it was so much more difficult you had to sit out a year it forced a lot of guys to probably want to leave but hold on and listen there are parts of it that I don't love but I completely understand this move and it's worked wonders for this guy because you keep having these moments in the SEC I think when the dust settles he's going to get drafted in the first round and last but not least I mean I speaking of USC watching

I watched about three quarters of that Oregon USC game. It was JV versus varsity. And listen, USC's not very good, but the score did not reflect what I witnessed. Honestly, if it wasn't for Caleb Williams pulling plays out of his ass, Oregon Maliwop those guys. They have a national championship level team. Now, are they going to win it? I don't know if I'd feel great putting my money on them.

I still think Georgia is a mother. Whoever comes out of the Ohio State Michigan game is going to be really, really tough. Texas's team. I don't trust their coach, but their team is just incredibly talented. Though I think I saw their running back got injured. It's hard to know exactly Florida State, but Florida State definitely doesn't suck. But you watch Oregon, and they're going to get their chance,

play Washington in the rematch in the championship game in Las Vegas. That game's going to be fucking awesome. Can't wait for that thing. But it's on the table. The Dan Landing has a shot second year. Remember, Bob Stoops, second year at Oklahoma, a national championship. You do something like that,

it changes the course of your career as a coach. And, you know, you can, some of these names, A&M's throwing out there, like, we're interested in Dan Campbell. No one leaves a good NFL job. And a good NFL job is just one you're winning at to go to college football. An NIL transfer portal news for you.

Dan Campbell should get an extension, pay him $12, $15 million a year. He ain't leaving the lines for your job. and if I'm Dan Landing, like, I'm just not leaving Oregon. They can pay me. I'm going to the Big Ten, so I'm in one of the main two conferences. And it's just a little easier route. The other thing, why would I want to deal with A&M?

Some of these programs have a false sense of who they are. Like, A&M, you're just not that great of a football program. You're never going to be. You're going to have some moments. You're going to produce some NFL guys. You're never going to be Alabama. You're never going to be LSU. You're never going to be Georgia.

Hell, I don't ever see you becoming what Oregon's become. You can get great players. Something's just off. I don't know what. I've never even been there, but I've just watched college football for 30 years. And I always hear, I got all this money,

they got all these recruits, like, I don't give a fuck. They stink. And I have no faith that they're going to get this right. Okay, let's go a little mailbag. How we're going to do this. Fire in those DMs,

at John Middlecough on Instagram, at John Middlecough on Instagram and get your question answered here on the show. Very, very easy. A huge Niner fan. Wanted to ask your third, thoughts on Jaden Daniels. And if you think Kyle would be able to develop a quarterback like him.

I know we have Purdy, but do you think we could trade Purdy and pick and a pick to try to get Jaden Daniels, but would it even be worth it? By the way, any meat we can get, any way we can get more content, have a really good insight of what goes through the league. Appreciate you. I would say, no. Kyle Shanahan loves Brock Purdy Brock Purdy is going nowhere

They're not going to trade for a quarterback Unless he gets seriously injured So Brock Purdy is going to be the 49ers quarterback For these next couple years He makes $800,000 And I mean against the Jags He was freaking awesome He played Trevor Lawrence

So I'm not acting like the guy's Patrick Mahomes Josh Allen But he's just not going anywhere And they're not going to get in the quarterback carousel after going through the Jimmy, Trey Lance situation. They feel comfortable with this guy, the team really likes him. That's the other thing. Like Fred Warner, Nick Bosa, Debo, Ayuk, Kittle, Trent,

their best players swear by this guy. So when you get the buy-in from your star players on a quarterback, and he's not a scrub, you've got to write it out and see what he can do. And I would say this. Some of Brock's picks have been atrocious. And the one in Minnesota, now he had a concussion. He threw two picks, but the ones in Cincinnati were just inexcusable, and it wasn't all his fault.

The defense was atrocious, but it definitely sealed the deal. But he's a really explosive quarterback. I mean, he averages, I mean, you just look at the box score after most games. He's like 10, 11 yards an attempt. You look at a lot of these quarterbacks are like six, seven yards of attempts. He pushes the ball down the field. He throws bombs relative to the 49ers offense, which has always kind of been a little dink-and-dunk with Jimmy and Kyle.

Why does Trevor Lawrence get a pass with the majority of the media? He has more turnovers 10 than touchdowns 9. In this season, people still talk about him like he's more than a game manager. His stats are identical to Mack Jones through 40 games. He clearly has a top 10 offensive weapons in the league, and his defense has been mostly solid. Is it simply because he's been so hyped up since his high school years, or is it the media's inability to admit they overhyped a player?

The upside is clearly there, but getting tired of people acting like he's already there. Whenever I talk to buddies in the NFL, and I was always victim of this as, like, it comes naturally to me to get in on the hype cycle and hype things up, the NFL doesn't, is not big on hype. Like, you can't go to a draft room and just use hype.

Like, this guy's really sweet. This guy, number one overall pick. This guy's a top 10 pick. Well, why? Explain it to me. Show me. Right? And most people of us that talk about it for a living,

but specifically, you know, people that don't know anything about football, it's easy to just kind of ride that avalanche of a hype train. And his hype train got pretty high. Now, people I knew in the NFL loved him as a prospect. He is a legit prospect coming out of college. The height, the weight, the athleticism, his arm is really good. I wouldn't call it great. The accuracy.

But let's face it, there is some deer in the headlights moments with him. and when you hit them now you could argue when you hit any quarterback but a lot of times with a mobile quarterback they should be able to kind of create some things and get away from some things like Mahomes can do like Josh Allen can do like Lamar Jackson can do

like Russell Wilson used to do why the Browns gave Deshawn Watts all that money to do Kyler Murray like make some shit happen and you watch games like yesterday which is his low point but it's like bro you got anything else in the bag sometimes you can watch something like that

and go I don't see it and yesterday I was getting texts from scouts that are like God this guy's really overrated and you're not alone now I compare him to mac Jones there ain't a team in the league there's not a coach in the league there's not a GM in the league there's not an owner in the league if you had Trevor Lawrence and the other team had mac Jones

no one would trade Trevor Lawrence for mac Jones not a soul not one and this is why you can't box score scout one guy is way more talented like mac Jones doesn't have that much talent relative to NFL players he's a low-end talent talent. Not debatable. That's an objective. In fact, average arm, not great movement,

not that accurate, not an explosive player, not that instinctive, clearly. So, I think that that's a little harsh, but I hear what you're saying. Numbers don't lie sometimes. Huge Steeler fan, but I wanted to get your thoughts on Kenny Pickett.

The last two games has been some of the worst games of his career. He's missing throws, walking in a sacks, etc. Also, Weird statum is. In his last 12 games, that he finishes the games, he's 11 and 1. Well, I think we've talked about this before. I didn't watch that much of the game yesterday just because, like, I'm not watching the Packers.

Like, I'm not watching Jordan Love. And I've watched you guys for 30 plus years, Far of Rogers, that they mattered. From what I do, I've talked about them nonstop on this show. When I was in the NFL, they were just something we were always talking about. When I was on radio, we talked. I mean, they just, they mattered. They were one of the biggest brands in the NFL. And their brand is still massive, but the team is unwatchable.

I'm not a Jordan love guy. Don't see it. He will not be the quarterback next year. But when they're playing somebody, they're to me like a third TV team. Like, just peek over there. I don't think the Packers are going to win. Like, you guys were never going to lose that game. I don't care how close it got.

I don't care how great the DB play was to bounce it off him, to get the pick at the end of the game. But I don't see it, man. I just, would Jordan love. Kenny Pickett, he's had some remarkable fourth quarter drives after playing shitty, so you've won a lot of those games. So a lot of that 11 and one is a lot of bad games and then coming through in the clutch. I don't know, man.

I think there's a little, when you get in business with the Mac Joneses, with the Jimmy Garoppos, with the Kenny Pickets, everything with Derek Carr. Everything has to be perfect around them for them to excel. offensive line, running back, weapons, offensive coordinator slash play calling. It all has to be in sync, because if it's not, it will not look good.

If one thing is off, right? For Mack Jones, he's not that good. Coordinator, Bill O'Brien, probably not that good, team's not that good, you're just going to lose every week. Kenny Pickett, you have good talent around him. Warren can make plays, Piggins can make plays, Deontay Thompson can make plays, The defense can make plays, but the coordinator's not great.

And then his confidence wanes, and he's not talented enough to kind of pull stuff out of his ass. So my issue always is whenever you draft an average talent super high, you're going to have more downs than ups. You just are. So I was not a big candy picket guy coming out of college, though I kind of bought into it this offseason. And I was just wrong. I should have stuck with my guns. Those aren't my type quarterbacks. They really struggle to excel in the NFL.

I would say Cousins is kind of an outlier over the last like 15 years, right, for a guy that's not. Drew Brees is like the best version, a short, average arm. Cousins is bigger and his arm got better as he got older. But for the most part, those guys don't really excel. They just don't. It's very, very difficult to have a good career. Hey John, got one for the mailbag. Did Colin put a moratorium on talking about anything related to Sean Watson?

I feel like Lamar had beat the best defense in football. It would have been a big point of praise for you to recap. Seriously, in our show and you don't talk about the best game of the day with the biggest playoff implications, seems like malpractice and blatant disregard for football fans who would have loved to hear your thoughts on the most physical game with the biggest stars. we'd love to know.

So there's no, never any moratorium. I talked about it earlier on this show. You can see it either on the podcast or one of our other videos. I give you my thoughts on Deshawn Watson and the Ravens, but there's no, we just talk about what we're talking about. I just talk about what we're excited to talk about. We can't make everybody happy,

and I don't think it's malpractice, it just didn't come up. Other things came up. And I'm sorry, Browns fans. You don't just get to be shitty for 20 years and win a big game and think everyone has talk about you. You gave $230 million to a fucking quarterback who had half a Texas coming after his ass. So yeah, you're going to get some more negativity than positivity.

You ain't the Yankees. You ain't the Lakers. This isn't the Cowboys. Like, the football business has been booming without you guys. So sometimes you get forgotten. You just do. Why do the Ravens tend to probably get more praise than you guys? I don't know.

Google their resume. there's nothing personal against the franchise. It's all based on history. In your history, pretty freaking ugly. Is Mike Tomlin the most underrated coach in the NFL today? I don't know why I got so mad they were talking about the Browns. He's winning with Kenny Pickett, and I don't see as a major upgrade over Mac Jones, yet the Steelers and the Patriots are headed in the opposite direction.

In 23, if Belichick and Tomlin were both available to coach my franchise, I'd go with Mike. He's never had a losing season and seems to understand the importance of being able to communicate. Mike crazy to think Mike is better than Bill at this point in time in his career. Two things Mike has. Clearly Bill is over dealing with players. Any issues, him and Mac, like he's not dealing with young guys and dealing with their shit. And Tomlin is clearly a just easier dude to talk to, right? And Mike is not Mr. Happy Go Lucky either.

Right? It's not all sunshine and rainbows with Mike Tomlin. But I think it's easier for him to deal with guys. then it is Belichick in 2023, right? And that matters because of just the way guys are wired, young people coming into the league. The other thing Mike has

that Bill refuses to have, Mike doesn't pick the players. They've had a strong GM. Their owner plays a big role in philosophically who they draft. Belichick, every single player on that team is rubber stamp by William Belichick.

Mike Taumlin ain't picket every player. So the reason the Steelers I've been so talented my entire life from Cower to Tomlin is their GM plays a role. Their front office plays a role. Front office ain't fucking doing shit in New England. Bill's picking the players. Bill's picking them all.

So it's like, yeah, Bill as a coach, right, just coaching a team on a given week. If you gave Tomlin the same team as... Tomlin's team's way better. Why? Because he ain't picking the player. Most coaches can't pick the players. Right?

You don't want most coaches picking all the players. I'm not saying they don't have influence, but most coaches would be bad GMs. Bill has proven in his 70s to be currently an awful GM. Tomlin doesn't even have to be the GM. Why? Because I got guys to do that. I feel like due to quarterback inflation,

we try and convince ourselves on these quarterbacks every year when time and time history shows two, maybe three of these quarterbacks, will be serviceable at best. Caleb Williams never jumped off my screen as a super elite talent. Every good defense he plays, he crumbles. And then we get Drake May.

I've lived in Raleigh, ACCC country, and they simply don't play anybody. It's literally Mitch Trubisky all over again. I just think we overvalue almost purely based on the description, on the desperation. What do you think? Are most of these guys overhyped?

I remember watching Drake May, who were they playing, whatever game they lost. They lost a Wake Forest. I forget they lost NC State. I forget their first lost. They've lost another game since. and hell, they almost lost the other night.

I think to Duke in overtime. I was excited to watch him, and I'd watch clips and bits and pieces of his games, but I mean, start to finish. I forget who they were playing. It was whoever they lost to first on the CW. He was just not very good. Relative to the height.

Again, good prospect. He's 6'5, he's big, he's got a solid arm. But I wasn't going, God, this is the next coming of Andrew Luck. This is the next Josh Allen. It's like a good player. Potentially goes to the right spot. Caleb, I've been all over the place on Caleb. I'll say this watching the Oregon game.

Their offensive line, there were dudes on Oregon, there was a guy minimum every play in the backfield. I mean, their offensive line is so shitty at USC. Lincoln Riley should be ashamed of himself. Whoever their offensive line coach is should be relieved of his duties. Because Caleb Williams was running for his life. And I saw Daniel Jeremiah, who I used to work with him, Philly and I've known for ever say you know I want to evaluate Caleb inside the pocket

we know outside the pocket ad libing he's elite but in the NFL the game is a lot of the game even though like Mahomes Allen all these guys burrow make plays outside the pocket but you do have to excel inside the pocket how do you excel inside the pocket if there's a dude hitting you every single play so I think he's overhyped just he's a six-foot quarterback yeah he's got great skills big arm accurate down the field strong, he's thick. But let's, we anoint all these guys next Peyton Manning, next Andrew Luck.

No, none of these guys are. Caleb Williams is a really good prospect. Drake May's a really good prospect. But there are definitely red flags. You better have a good team. You better have a good coach. Better have a good play caller. Look at Bryce Young.

I liked him a lot in college. I underestimated how tiny he would look. But then he goes, Frank, I'm sorry, I don't think Frank Rack's any good. Their talent definitely is not any good. So if you don't have the physical skills and I put you on that team. Like Caleb Williams is a much better prospect than Bryce Young.

But if I put Caleb Williams on Carolina, they wouldn't be shitty. They wouldn't be any good. They might be a little better, but they wouldn't be that much better. And you never know. The other thing you can't value because it's impossible are the intangibles, your focus, your drive,

your ability to study. Like one thing I heard T-Bob on the guys on snaps talking about, and he's a big LSU guy. He played there and he covers them, on a local radio show, so he just knows a lot about the program. Like, Jayden Daniels study and film three days a week, like 5, 5.30 in the morning.

He put a lot of emphasis on his game and getting better, right? So that matters. Most of the great players in my lifetime, really try. Patrick Mahomes gives you a plus effort. It gives you everything he's got. Joe Burrell, all in on football.

This thing with Trevor Lawrence, he even said, like, football's not my everything. Well, I'm sorry. I'm going to give you $200 million. Someone's giving me $200 million. to do, let's say, I'm a podcaster. So if you're going to give me $200 million, you're getting my fucking all.

It's my life. Saying, you know, this is little balance. It's part of life. Like everyone, and I know it's very in vogue, like balance in life. Yeah, for sure. If you work 9 to 5,

I don't expect you to take home your company's problems. That's on them. Especially if you're not making that much money. You can do whatever you want. Punch in, punch out. That's fine. But when you get paid,

millions upon millions, it's the organization's fault if they give that money to a guy that's not all in. Like, Peyton Manning was addicted. Tom Brady, addicted. Steph Curry, addicted. Not the biggest LeBron guy,

but I'd give him credit. Like, he's all in. Well, unless your team sucks, then he'll pivot and quit. But if your team's good, he gives you max effort. He gives you max energy toward his craft. Like, when you get to high dollar amounts,

you know, the pie chart of your balance in life, better lean to whatever you're getting paid to do. I'm sorry if that makes some people uncomfortable. Hell, when I was making no money in this profession, wanting to make it, when I was in the NFL to when I started talking about football, like my balance was kind of limited.

I don't go on that many vacations. My life, you know, in my 20s and 30s, you know, was dedicated around football for six, eight months a year. Limited stuff going on as part of life. You know, that's the way it goes. Now, there have been a lot of players in sports, that aren't addicted.

And most of those guys, I would say underachieve. And a lot of those guys, when they get paid big money, never live up to the billing. Why? Because it's impossible to be great, in my opinion,

if you're not addicted to your craft. It just is. And maybe I'm wrong. Maybe there are certain crafts where you can get away with it. And again, part of my job now, having interesting stuff to talk to.

I'm not saying, I don't go out to dinner or don't go play golf sometimes and hang out. It's not what I'm saying. But there's no vacations on Saturday. and Sunday for me.

You know? Because, listen, I'm not acting like I'm digging ditches. I'm not. But, like, I don't, I got to watch football. That's my job. Whatever your job is, you know, if you're, if you want to have success, it probably takes an allotment of your time that is more than some will be willing to do. And that's just the reality with some of these prospects when you evaluate them, right?

So if Drake May or Caleb Williams or Bo Nicks or Michael Pennix or Jaden Daniels or J.J. McCarthy or whoever these players are because a lot of them like I've seen all them they all have a lot of talent right Caleb big arm Drake pretty good arm Bo Nicks Panics can throw the ball well all good athletes J.J. McCarthy same thing

like are these guys going to be addicted to their craft are they going to fucking give everything they have to the sport of football because if they do and that doesn't even guarantee you anything but if they do they're going to have a chance because that's what most of the good to great players have had in the NFL right

I'll give you an example. Like Derek Carr, I think he devotes a large percentage of his time, of his life to his craft. He's just not good enough anymore. And whether that's because he flinches now in the pocket, because he doesn't trust some of his previous injuries, whatever, he's just not as good as he once was.

Right? But it's not like he maximized his talent. Do the Vikings just trade, let cousins walk, and keep Dobbs? Well, they can't trade cousins because his contract runs out and he's not franchisable. So I think they're in a complicated situation. He was going to be really expensive when you factored in how well he was playing.

But the Achilles changed. There's a lot. You know, I know Aaron Rogers thinks he can come back in three months from an Achilles injury. Most guys take a year. And most guys after that year aren't as good. Take a couple years. Right. And depending on who you are, your athleticism, your physical makeup, things I can't even

pretend to know about. you might never be the same, right? Now, there was a lot of wear and tear on Kobe Bryant, but he was obviously never the same after that injury. Clay Thompson, who had less wear and tear than Kobe, has never even remotely been the same after his Achilles' injury. So Kirk Cousin's game is not predicated like theirs on jumping and cutting, but still, like, I mean, it's pretty important.

And I just, I have a lot of respect for him, how much he maximized his game, how good he became. but I'd be lying if I said I was confident that he's going to come back and be a pro bowl level guy right and just like if I was them would I be comfortable what's the number because would I take him back on one year $10 million deal or something like 100% but am I doing a one year $30 million deal for a guy coming off

Achilles it's 36 years old Josh Dobbs what do we say about it last week it's having the skill of being adaptable something I don't know about you guys I struggle with sometimes like I can be very rigid but just hey deal with whatever's thrown at you just roll with the punches which is easier said than done right getting traded new playbook

not knowing guys names most of us that would be very very difficult I don't care how good a character guy you are how open minded you are how willing you are to work that would have been very difficult and he is he's having one of the cooler seasons in like NFL history.

Not one of the best. Like he's not throwing for 50 touchdowns or he's going to win a Super Bowl. But I think he's just having a season like, remember Joshua Dobbs in 2020? You know that meme that's going around right now with Vince McMahon of him talking about

the Undertaker and being choked up? You do that when you talk about Joshua Dobbs in 2023. Guy was, I wouldn't even say written off. He was just irrelevant. And then you just find out more about the guy and he's used to root for. Then he gets traded after they said they wouldn't trade him.

I mean, two weeks ago, Jonathan Gannon told him he wouldn't trade him. And then he said, he told me I was going to start. And then he starts the name of the other guy's starters. And he goes to Minnesota, which is a way better spot than Arizona given that they're going to make the playoffs. I watched a decent amount of that game because I was interested in New Orleans. They were beating the shit out of the Saints. They were clowning the Saints.

It was 24 to 3. wasn't even close. If it wouldn't have been for James coming into that game and giving them a little life, I think the Vikings might have won that thing like 40 to 10. But what a story, man.

What a cool story. What an easy guy to root for. So what sports needs more of. Just easy guys to root for. Another question, has he earned the starting job? I mean, he's only started two games. He's awesome story. It's been fun.

But I would say, no on the on the earn the starting job fuck Dennis Allen That was just the DM Bo Nicks favored to win the Heisman If not him Then who?

I think it's him and Jaden I think it's kind of a two horse race I guess Penix would still be somewhat alive They play Oregon State this week At Oregon State That Oregon State's like 12 in the country Then they finish with the Apple Cup

Against Washington State and then if they win those two games, they'll be in the conference championship game. I thought the voting happens before the conference championship game, but I could be wrong. I guess the voting happens before the bowl games and the playoffs. That's what it is. So the conference championship games count.

But I would say that if my bet right now, I would lean Bo Nix. But I think Jaden Daniels is having himself a moment. And to me, the only difference is if they win the Pac-12, I think Bo Nix is the guy. and if he goes on to beat Oregon State in two weeks and then beat Washington, Jaden won at that ability because Alabama, the SEC championship game is now set. It's Alabama versus Georgia.

So pretty crazy. If I would have told you two years ago that Jaden Daniels was going to win the Heisman trophy, not a soul or Bo Knicks. Honestly, it would have been crazier to say Bo Nix. Those two guys are going to be at the Heisman ceremony, and it's basically they're going to get the majority of the votes. That's wild. That really is.

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