The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - Tyreek Trade Reaction, Inside the Pre-Draft Process, Bezos TNF Strategy, Lincoln Riley/USC Momentum

Episode Date: March 25, 2022

John breaks down both sides of the blockbuster trade sending Tyreek Hill to the Dolphins, how the Chiefs will attempt to replace Hill, why KC GM Brett Veach did the deal, why the the deal makes sense ...for Miami, if Hill can be nearly as effective with Tua instead of Mahomes. He also gives an inside look at what teams and scouting departments are doing leading up to the draft, and discusses why Jeff Bezos doesn't care who watches Thursday Night Football on Amazon, and why he thinks Lincoln riley is going to roll early at USC.Follow John and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and updates and check out FanDuel for the best wagering and daily fantasy action! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:09 have something off the top that I've just been thinking about over the last 24 hours since the trade and then we'll just fly through some other topics Lincoln Riley's first practice Tom Brady could play past beyond this year saw some people tweeting about how Amazon Prime everyone's going to be complaining
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Starting point is 00:04:12 Share with your enemies. I want to start with all the trades that have happened. And trades have been happening in pro sports, especially basketball and baseball forever. Football, it feels like it's really, really picked up. Not that trades didn't happen like when Joe Montana got traded, right? Herschel Walker got traded.
Starting point is 00:04:30 There have been historic trades before. But I think it's getting a little bit crazier. And I think we all, in any industry, or any personal decision, try to balance return on investment. When is it worth it to change a job for more money? When is it worth it to sell our house for more money? When is it worth it to try to become an entrepreneur? Because we've always envisioned ourselves starting a certain business.
Starting point is 00:04:58 And I think we all find out with time, there's no necessarily right or wrong answer. We try to take the information that we have and make educated guesses. right? No one could have known when the world shut down in March 2020 that over the next two years, we would see a housing boom in terms of prices that we've never seen. I mean, the rate in which the housing market grew is, you just, you could not have envisioned that. Now, it's easy to say, now, well, some people, no one was talking about that. I think most of us freaked out. I know I sold I have my stocks. Regretted it immediately. Right. So it's always easy to look
Starting point is 00:05:39 back. But at the time when you make a decision, whether that's trading Devante Adams or Tyree Kill or Killelea Mac, whether that's selling your house, whether that's changing jobs. You can really only make, you know, whether you're the head coach, whether you're the CEO or whether you're the guy paying the mortgage, the educated guests with the information you have and ultimately like your vision of where you want to go. And there are always a million variables, right? I get a lot of people that's like middle cop, you know, you can make some money. your condo, you might as well get rid of it. Well, where am I going to go? I don't need to sell this thing to move. When I move, I plan on keeping this thing. Now, my neighbor, you know, right across
Starting point is 00:06:21 basically the hall street, however you want to quantify it in this condo complex, sold this pad for 150 grand more than I bought this thing for. So boom, plus 150. And I've just based on what I own the mortgage, I'd be up another 150. So the moment I sold it, assuming I could get the same number, I'd have $300,000. Now, what am I going to do with that money? I don't necessarily need it. I want to keep this thing rent out because I have a historically low mortgage after I refinanced on it last year. This thing I plan on being a cash cow for me just as a rental that I won't even need to touch one day.
Starting point is 00:06:55 But like if you knocked on my door right now and doubled that number, like, hey, where it was like, hey, you're going to have $650,000, $700,000 in your pocket. Then I'd say, fuck the rental. I'll take the cash. right? Information changes as you talk to people as you're going toward making a decision. And you never know at the time of making the decision ultimately what will happen. Because you could argue, well, if someone knocked on your door and offered you double what my neighbor got, who's to say in five years, that number isn't double from where it is? Who's to say that number isn't a court? This
Starting point is 00:07:32 place is worth 100 grand in 10 years. I don't know. You could look at historical trends and make educated guesses, but no one truly knows. Like, obviously, Tyree Kill and Devante Adams are two of the best players going. They are worth what they got paid based on they've had a combined 11 straight Pro Bowls. And those aren't fake Mac Jones Pro Bowls, those are real Pro Bowls.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Those guys, when they're on the field, kick the shit out of whoever's trying to guard them. They cannot be covered. They dominate with the ball in their hands. They are elite players, but it's like they're older, third contract. Can we sell high? Right? But there's a chance that both of the guys, you know,
Starting point is 00:08:07 Obviously, it's going to be a little bit easier for Devante, but you go to Tua, are going to, you know, their success is predicated on the quarterback. But I think everyone in these trades in business acquisitions, remember when Bezos bought Whole Foods and everyone's like, this is insane. He's spending $16 billion on Whole Foods. And at the time, because of the stock price, they actually made money. And now when you order something from Amazon, it's like, do you want to take it to the UPS or you just want to drop it off at Whole Foods?
Starting point is 00:08:34 Like, yeah, I'll just drop it off at Whole Foods. I'd say Bezos knew what the hell. he was doing. So you try to make these decisions with educated guesses and the information you have. No one really knows. You know, we talk about the stock market all the time. No one knows where it's going. Now, historically, it keeps going up over time. But if you told me in the next six months, it drops another 30% believable. Do you say the next six months, it rallies another 30% higher? Believeable. You know, you just have to make decisions. And here's the other thing. Whether you're a head coach, whether you're a dude buying a house,
Starting point is 00:09:07 whether you're a guy changing jobs. You know, deep down, I'm a big gut feel guy because your gut knows your surroundings and your variables better than anyone else, right? You know your personal finances better than anyone else. You know the things that you have to deal with it,
Starting point is 00:09:26 your office or your employees or the guy you work for, better than anyone else. You can explain it to other people outside of that building or outside of that industry, but it's hard to truly comprehend if you're not doing it. It's why when you work with someone, right,
Starting point is 00:09:40 the guys that I worked with with the Eagles, I'm still really close now with. A decade later that we, I started working there in 2010. It's 2000, whatever, 22, 12 years later. Because like we have a shared bond. Same thing with the guys that I worked with at Fresno State. Like we share a bond that only people can truly relate to. It's why when you see these coaches,
Starting point is 00:10:00 hire guys they've worked with before, is they're very comfortable with them. Now you can say that's not always right. But your gut feel tells you, I think this guy's good. I think this guy's bad. You know. And I think you're going to see more and more of these trades because ultimately there is one guy. Like, let's take the 49ers, for example.
Starting point is 00:10:18 If Trey Lance sucks, none of it matters. They're screwed. But if Trey Lance becomes a top 10 quarterback, let's just say a top eight quarterback for argument's sake. His value on the team is 5X, the next best player. And that includes Bosa, Trent Williams, Debo Samuel. These guys are max-level players. But Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, their value to their team, if it was like, hey, Andy, you can trade Patrick Mahomes and keep everyone else. Or you have to trade Travis Kelsey, Tyree Kill, and Chris Jones in this hypothetical world.
Starting point is 00:10:54 What do you think he'd say? Of course they'd keep Patrick Mahomes. So there is a value that is just more in football with that individual position. So the rest of it is all just kind of external. And you have to pick and choose what's worth paying, what's not worth paying. Big picture. How do we reset? Is this guy, we've already had them for seven, eight years?
Starting point is 00:11:15 Can we sell high on this? And sometimes when you sell high, like if you sold your house, I told my little brother who moved a couple years ago, I'm like, listen, I would eat the cost for a little bit. And it was basically, he bought his first house. He's younger. He's like 31, like five, six years ago. go or whatever. Track home, you know, five, six hundred thousand dollars. I'm like, if you can make the payment, I would just keep it. And this is, this might have been before COVID. I can't even
Starting point is 00:11:44 remember the timeline. But regardless, it wasn't like, it was just, I would wait this thing out. And he's like, no, you know, I'll take the money. He didn't need the money to buy his new house. And then, I think six months or a year later, the people that he sold the house to resold the house for like 25% more. And again, it was just more like, I would just be patient on this. And at the time, like, if he was doing that again, he would help. So, but it's also the argument, it's easy to look at hindsight and go, you know, they shouldn't have traded Khalil Mack.
Starting point is 00:12:15 But at the time, the Raiders, I don't think Mark Davis had $90 million to put in escrow. I think John Gruden kind of wanted to reset the franchise, get two first round picks. He assumed the bears were going to suck. They ended up not sucking. Those picks were like 19 and 24, right? I think he was hoping for a top 10 pick like the Jets or Giants got, right? I guess the Giants got this year. The Jets didn't get a top 10 pick.
Starting point is 00:12:40 But you know what I mean. So you're always just trying to balance what you know, educated guesses, the finances, whether it's your football team, whether it's your personal life. And ultimately, like, is this a good return on investment and factoring it in? And when you pull the trigger, you don't have concrete information. You do not know what things are going to look like in three or four years, but you can't operate worrying about that. You just have to make the decision best on what the information you have in front of you.
Starting point is 00:13:12 And sometimes like the Packers, they ultimately didn't want to trade DeMonte Adams. He didn't want to play there anymore. The Chiefs, as I'll talk about, were clearly much more open to trading Tyree Kill once that number got set. Right? And sometimes you get presented a deal. I don't think the 49ers ever dreamed of trading to Forrest Buckner.
Starting point is 00:13:29 They loved him. He was the team captain of a team that had a 10-point lead in the freaking Super Bowl in the fourth quarter. Dude is a stud. And then they got a phone call and they got offered
Starting point is 00:13:40 the 13th pick in the draft. And you're like, it made you think. Like I said, someone knocks on my door and offers double what I think this place is worth. I don't give a shit
Starting point is 00:13:51 what my interest rate is 2.75. I don't care. I would sell it to him yesterday. You get off. offered the 13th pick for DeForest Buckner. It's like, yeah, see you. You know, you ain't Aaron Donald, buddy. Now, they, you know, they ended up drafting Kinloat. It doesn't quite work out, but I understand, like, I supported the move. You know, I understand these teams that are trying
Starting point is 00:14:14 to reset their salary cap trading these players. It could blow up in the face of the Chiefs. It could blow up in the face of the Packers. Kaleel Mack could get hurt immediately and it could, you know, hurt the Chargers. I don't know. No one knows. But I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, think that's all this is, is one big economic exercise. Bet $5 to get $150. Right now, Fandual Sportsbook is giving new customers $150. Instant bonus, guaranteed. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:21:26 Okay, let's dive in to the seismic trade that happened on Wednesday morning. Wednesday afternoon, Wednesday at lunchtime, depending on where you live. For me, it happened about 9.30 on Wednesday. The Kansas Chiefs traded one of the greatest players in franchise history. And to me, him and Devante are the two best wide receivers in the league. Ironically, also got traded to the Miami Dolphins. Let's start with the Chiefs angle. And I think this parallels the Packers.
Starting point is 00:21:55 When you pay your quarterback, $45, $50 million a year, you have to make tough decisions. and in a salary cap league with a hard cap historically, you've seen a lot of difficult decisions get made. Now, I wouldn't want to be in the business of trading Devante, of trading Tyree Kill. But when you get to the point of paying a guy $28, 27, 70 plus million dollars guaranteed at wide receiver, when you've had them for a long period of time,
Starting point is 00:22:25 I understand internally where you discuss this and where you just put them on the table and see what you can get. And ultimately the Chiefs got more than the Packers did for Devante. First round pick, pick 29 that the Dolphins got from the Niners. Pick 50, which is a pretty good second round pick. Multiple force, the force this year or fourth next year. To me, the force don't mean that much.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Brett Veets would disagree. Third day picks mean nothing to me. I value in trades for elite players, high picks, first and second rounders. And they got a first and second rounder. and there is no guarantee that they can ever, ever find another Tyree kill. But it's pretty clear they'll try. And Veach and Andy have a long history of finding really talented skill guys. Now, the difference I would say with the Chiefs and the Packers is they still have
Starting point is 00:23:15 Travis Kelsey, who's still an elite player and the Packers don't have the skill guys outside. So they feel we still have a core guy, but they need to replace Tyree Kill, which is going to be borderline impossible, at least in the short term. because no one they draft is going to be remotely as good as he will be. But part of building a team big picture is buying low and selling high. This would have been his third contract on the Chiefs. Same with Devante Adams. The difference is the Roger situation in the dynamic is much, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:47 different than Kansas City just because it was a trio, not a duo. People are like, why aren't you crossing the Chiefs for doing this? my point is I understand I would not be in the business of doing this and I know this for a fact Andy loves Tyree Kill he told me a couple years ago he's one of the smartest players he's ever coached
Starting point is 00:24:06 and he's been coaching for 50 years and it is going to like they won multiple games last year because Tyree Kill took over there just is no replacing that but it's a business and part of doing business is making moves like this you know it's
Starting point is 00:24:24 it leaves a hole, but now you've got to replace it. And you feel good about your infrastructure, about being able to draft. I know, you know, Vech and other guys on that staff. I think they have easily one of the best scouting staffs in the league. But bottom line, and I've said this for a while about the AFC West, because this is, Chiefs has lost one of their best players. And everyone else in the AFC West is adding players. The Chief's point of difference that the other programs do not have,
Starting point is 00:24:51 the Broncos, the Raiders, and the Chargers is Andy. Reed. They have a massive advantage at coach. And he's going to have to out-coach and out-scheme, as he's been doing, six straight AFC West. And Mahomes is going to have to continue to play at an elite level. That's why you paying $45 million. That's why the Packers are paying Rogers 50 million. When I pay you that much, you have to take random guys. Brady did it for years. You know, I mean, Gronk, let's face it, in some of those Super Bowl years, you know, was not 80-90 catch Gronkowski. He looked like.
Starting point is 00:25:24 like Barry Bonds. He had metal all over his body. So there's a ton of pressure on Mahomes. There already was. A ton of pressure on Rogers already was. This is, you know, this is a long history of the league of doing business like this. Also now it gives them wiggle room. But again, back to what I originally said, there's just a lot of pressure of now you got a lot more wiggle room, but now nailing those picks again. It is difficult. But, you know, I mean, these guys, Jeremy Macklin, Deshawn Jackson, Shady McCoy, Tyree Kill, Travis Kelsey, like, these guys know how to find elite offensive players. And they have a quarterback who can elevate offensive players.
Starting point is 00:26:05 But it's going to be difficult. No one would argue otherwise. But I understand when you're paying a quarterback that much money, being hesitant to do that. Because unlike the Packers wanted DeBonte to stay, he wanted out. They would have paid him to stay. He said no, see you, deuses. The Chiefs did not want to pay this.
Starting point is 00:26:25 That much is clear. They weren't paying this freight. And they got Miami, who let's dive into now. The biggest advantage you have when you have a rookie quarterback, whether he's good or bad, is irrelevant. Ideally, you'd want Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, Justin Herbert, guys that are studs, guys that are going to Pro Bowls. But even if they're Baker Mayfield or Tua, they're stee. still present the same advantage.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Mack Jones falls under this category. Trey Lance falls under this category. Trevor Lawrence, Zach Wilson. We don't know, half the guys I just named, we don't know if they're going to be any good or not. But they all have an advantage.
Starting point is 00:27:04 And it's called the contract. Their contract, you have a starting quarterback who makes $5, 6, 7 million dollars. Obviously, it depends. The guy drafted number one makes a little bit more if you draft 5 or 6, but whatever. It's all in the same ballpark.
Starting point is 00:27:19 It's not very much money. relative to what starting quarterback, Kirk Cousins goes for 35, 38, $40 million. Stafford, 43, Mahomes. We see these numbers. Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:27:32 You have to take advantage of that cap space. It's my beef right now the way the 49ers handled the Jimmy Garoppolo situation. They could have used that money, I don't know, to sign Chandler Jones. When you have advantages in business,
Starting point is 00:27:45 you have to take advantage of them. Speaking for myself, I used to work in radio, now I work in podcast. How can radio compete against me? I don't have a time slot. I don't have to wait till, hey, when can you do this topic? I'm recording this part on Wednesday morning right after the trade happened.
Starting point is 00:28:04 In my home office, I don't have a two-hour commute. While you're commuting, I'm working. Advantage me. I have no costs. You know, like the advantage of the podcast business, there's a reason all the money's flowing that way. I would imagine anyone listening to this working in certain industries. You have advantages.
Starting point is 00:28:23 Now, there are disadvantages too, but the advantages you have in any industry, you have to take advantage of them. So I commend the dolphins, who I don't feel are a player away, for utilizing their advantage. Yesterday, they signed Armstead, the tackle from the Saints. Today, they make this trade. Now, from a football standpoint, they're two sweet playmakers are both tiny. you know, waddle small and obviously Tyree kills small. But like you have this contract advantage with Tua. Let's pull the trigger.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Also, this pick, pick 29 for the dolphins who are desperate. And I mean desperate just to make the playoffs. I understand making this move. There are other advantage. And this is one that's harder to quantify because we don't have the books of all these owners is when your owner is flush with cash the blink of an eye he can hand Tyreek Hill. He has to have $73 million on hand
Starting point is 00:29:22 and put that in escrow account. Mark Davis just did it in Vegas. And he wouldn't have been able to do that five years ago, but now that he moved in Vegas, the stadium's pumping out cash. He has financial advantages. And when your owner is flush with cash, Colin's been talking about this for a while with Kronky.
Starting point is 00:29:39 His investments in L.A. From a real estate standpoint, have boomed, have brought him a lot of revenue in cash so he can take advantage of okay Aaron Donald I'll give you a 50 million signing bonus okay Matt Stafford will give you a 45 million dollar signing bonus that's direct deposit in seven day or 14 day span and then the other money that you guarantee you had to put in escrow so the amount of cash on hand separates some of these owners like Mike Brown ultimately what's going to happen when they get to the Joe
Starting point is 00:30:09 Burrell contract it's going to be very very interesting I bet they're saving right now as we speak they should be So the Miami Dolphins now took advantage of Tua's contract. They took advantage of their rich owner. And now goes to the pressure. And I think the pressure falls on two people. From a football on the field standpoint, like listen, to a, I don't think he's that good.
Starting point is 00:30:33 But he's got no excuse now. They had an offensive lineman. They had Tirek freaking Hill to go with Waddle, who they drafted last year in the top 10. And they also have a franchise tied end, Gaseki, who I really like. they have three legitimate targets. I mean, Tyree Kill is a Hall of Famer.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Waddle is a stud, and Gaseki's really good. So, like, there is no, well, he just doesn't have enough talent, you know, it just doesn't have this. No, there's none of that. Because I watch my homes with him forever, and they kick the shit out of everybody. And here's the other guy.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I watch Mahomes and Tyreek Hill, the guy calling the plays, scheme up things left and right. Mike McDaniel, who I'm a big fan of, I've watched his work. I think. I don't know exactly because he wasn't the play caller,
Starting point is 00:31:21 but the way Kyle gave him credit, the way everyone on the team talked about him, Mike McDaniel is known internally with the 49ers people as a schematic genius. I mean, he's brilliant. Every single person, coach, players, been around him,
Starting point is 00:31:37 swear by the guy's intellect when it comes to X's and O's. Well, now we get to see it. And there is, for a first-time head coach, kind of like the Josh McDaniels. When you make an acquisition like this, your clock starts a little faster. When you just break the thing down at the studs and just start,
Starting point is 00:31:54 you know, you get a little, you get a slow landing. You know, you really don't start feeling pressure until year three. You make a move like this, you start spending this money. You know, I think Tua is going to have more pressure under him than McDaniel. But ultimately, McDaniel, like utilizing these playmakers in a division that, let's face it, like we'll get to the Patriots here in a second. The bills are stacked. the AFC in general is stacked.
Starting point is 00:32:17 It's going to be difficult. But I'm fascinated to watch this first-time head coach, first-time play caller, this guy that's known as this Ivy League kind of mover and shaker when it comes to a whiteboard, when it comes to installing offense. I was told a story that you remember that play that the 49ers ran against the Packers
Starting point is 00:32:36 where they put Trent Williams in motion and he on a fourth and one and he came in motion and destroyed the outside linebacker and they gained the yard and got the first down? That was a McDaniel's idea. And McDaniel at practice, practiced the defense once they realized it was going on
Starting point is 00:32:56 on the other field against the scout team, started watching, and McDaniel looks at Jed York and goes, watch this. And then the play happens. And then obviously, then it happened in the game, even though Kyle went back to it and it failed later, but that's a whole other point. I'm fascinated to watch this work.
Starting point is 00:33:14 but I give them credit for taking big swings. You got to take big swings when you have a first round quarterback. And that's how you find out if he's good. And it's also how you stack your roster. Are they all going to work? No. But if you take enough big hacks, eventually you're going to connect. And you might not even hit it out of the park.
Starting point is 00:33:34 You're going to hit it in a gap and maybe get a double. And the more doubles you hit, the more likely, you know, you're going to have a good team. Right. You can't be afraid to strike out. And I think there are a lot of teams that kind of pitter-patter around aggressive wins in this league. So I commend, I understand where the chiefs are coming from. I commend the dolphins for doing this.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Do I think it's going to work? I don't know. I don't really trust Tua. And I don't, you know, I've just never seen their head coach. Being a head coach is a lot different than being a play caller. We've seen a lot of great play callers. You know, and again, he's never been a play caller, but you know what I mean. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged.
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Starting point is 00:37:39 get in the situation where they're leading the group and it not go as well. And I also think this now puts a lot of pressure, or at least more pressure on Bill Belichick. Because Bill Belichick, it looks like, is going to be the offensive coordinator. Well, they've lost J.C. Jackson, who I understood why they lost him. You know, I don't, his production is elite. I don't know if he's necessarily an elite player.
Starting point is 00:38:02 He got paid elite money. I get it. But the Patriots did lose him. And they've always struggled against the Dolphins for whatever reason. And now you add a player like this. And don't forget, the Dolphins beat the Patriots
Starting point is 00:38:15 Week 1 in 2021. Now, the Patriots usually kind of ease into the season. September is not really their month. They kick the shit out of people in November and December. That's when they kind of put it into overdrive. But like, Bill Belichick's the greatest coach of all time. If he's going to be their offensive coordinator, it's going to be less time spent on defense.
Starting point is 00:38:35 And just in general, like, you need some jimmies and the Joe's. there is going to be pressure on guys covering. We saw in the playoff game, they had no shot. I repeat none to slow down the bills when Josh Allen is on. We know that. They're on a different level. Even if Tua just turns out to be a completely average guy,
Starting point is 00:38:53 if you put good players around average quarterbacks, if he can just be semi-accurate, you can put up points. Who's covering these guys? Like, it's hard. Nobody can cover Tyree Kill. We've seen it for five years. Literally nobody. Fastest guy in the league, Cheetah.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Waddle is just a problem. And obviously so is Gaseki. So I think there is, you know, the dolphins have a shot if McDaniel is good to compete for second place in that division. Because there's going to be a lot of pressure on the Patriots in the draft. Obviously, I mean, they lose Josh McDaniel. So obviously, Belichick, if he's calling offensive plays, I think he can do it. But there's no guarantee that he's the same level play caller as Josh. And maybe their defense kind of comes back to Earth a little bit without him having a,
Starting point is 00:39:38 as big of a role as he's historically had because he just had to spend time with, you know, Mac Jones and, you know, the running game and the passing game. So it's going to be the AFC East, just got a lot more fascinating. And again, I'm not writing off the Chiefs just yet. Adoption of teens from foster care is a topic not enough people know about and we're here to change that. I'm April Dinwiddie host of the new podcast, Navigating Adoption, presented by Adopt U.S. Kids. Each episode brings you compelling real-life adoption stories told by the families that live them with commentary from experts. Visit adoptuskids.org slash podcast or subscribe to navigating adoption presented by Adopt U.S. Kids.
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Starting point is 00:42:04 free agency, once all the top guys go off the board, all these big trades happen, you know, there's only so much that can happen, right? Josh Allen ain't getting traded. Michael Parsons isn't going anywhere. So there's just, it is what it is. Now we kind of, most of the rosters,
Starting point is 00:42:21 you know, relatively set. We could still see something weird happened just randomly. But for the most part now, team shift into getting value on the free agent market and really lock in for the draft. you get 30 visits.
Starting point is 00:42:36 It's called the top 30. Every NFL team can fly guys in for the draft, 30 players. And these are guys, I think sometimes some off the field questions, maybe guys that you really like in the mid rounds, but you want to get to know better. And you fly in, you get 24 hours. You know, they get to hang out with the position coach, coordinator, head coach.
Starting point is 00:42:56 If they're a high pick or they have character stuff, maybe the owner and the general manager spend some time with them. when I was working in the league I used to be the guy my first year pick them up take them to different dinners you know kind of go around with them and by my second year
Starting point is 00:43:12 I didn't have to do that anymore but you could still I think I would just go to dinners because I was making like 50 grand and get free dinner and if I was if I could tag along I went you know so it uh and you just
Starting point is 00:43:23 sometimes you're trying to throw people off the scent right sometimes you bring in a guy that you don't really want to make a team think that you want you're kind of playing those games But in my experience, there's not a lot of that. You're actually bringing guys you're really interested in. And you just want to get to know better.
Starting point is 00:43:39 So you're going to see over the next, I would say, 20 plus days, a lot of NFL player, or excuse me, a lot of top draft guys, but just draft guys in general, visiting teams. And you get 30 of them. But you can also at their pro day, you can do personal workout. So you can use other areas to spend time with them. But that's the one area where you get to bring them to your facility and sit down with them and really spend all day.
Starting point is 00:44:05 And yeah, and try to answer any questions that you have. With some of these guys, you know, they've been in trouble. If, you know, coach, even if it's not arrested or whatever. It's just maybe suspended for a game by a coach. Maybe if some negative stuff was said in the program about them, you just want to get closer to the bottom of it and see what their reaction is. Because usually you feel pretty confident by this point in time
Starting point is 00:44:28 in the end of March, the information that you have. If you have a good scouting department, because ultimately your scouts are your detectives, you've accumulated what you know and your questions, you know, only he can answer them or you just got to keep digging
Starting point is 00:44:42 externally outside the player as well. One thing I saw today is that Jason Light, who's one of the better general managers in football, basically he'd, you know, we would love to have a third year and maybe more. My thing is with Tom Brady, he didn't want to retire, we've already discussed that.
Starting point is 00:44:58 Now he's back. and he's kind of got the band back together. My question is with Tom moving forward, what if he has another really good year? What if they go to the NFC championship game? What if he's a top three or four quarterback still? Why would he be going to retire again and then want to come back? The reason he clearly wanted to come back is because he's still good.
Starting point is 00:45:16 It's not like he can't throw. He's not coming back because Tampa is just, quarterback's all suck and he kind of sucks too. He's coming back because he's still an elite player. So if he maintains that level of play, which there aren't really any signs that it's like think about Rathusberger arm strength shot manning had no arm breeze no arm this guy's arm is still excellent I think in the final pass of last season is the bomb that he threw on Jalen Ramsey to Mike Evans his arm is not the question
Starting point is 00:45:45 so I don't think it's crazy to think that he has another good year and he's interested in coming back again now is this is he going to play to he's 50 it would seem like no but who is in the business of writing Tom Brady off right now. Sure, I wouldn't be in that business because he was the best 44-year-old player we've ever seen in the history of the league, non-kicker. It doesn't get any better in that.
Starting point is 00:46:10 44 years old and be the second best quarterback in terms of MVP votes in the league. That's, honestly, is that an underrated Tom Brady accomplishment? It's like, what are all this accomplishment? Super Bowl, MVP's. When Tom Brady, think about telling you someone this like in 30 years.
Starting point is 00:46:27 this dude he was already the greatest quarterback by a wide margin played at 44 years old 44 and it took Aaron Rogers one of his best seasons ever who's also one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:46:40 quarterbacks of all time that was the guy that beat him out for the MVP if it wasn't for that player Tom Brady at 44 would have been the MVP of the league I don't think like I don't think next year
Starting point is 00:46:52 Giselle's pressuring him like hey hey guys not I don't think his kids care but I think it's his wife Giselle, you know, I'm in the peak of my powers. I will retire when I suck. And when I suck, I got no problem being, uh, stay at home dad, making some, uh, some waffles in the morning.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I can't eat them. Well, I guess I could if I retire. Playing a little golf here and there, working out, hanging out, doing some NFTs. Whatever the hell Tom Brady's going to do in retirement. Do that Brady brand. Do some business deals. Kick it. You know, I'm not there yet.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Because why? Because I dominate when I play football. I throw a lot of touchdowns. I don't throw a lot of interceptions. I'm still elite. Who wants to walk away from a job when they're still a lead at and they get paid a lot of money and they enjoy it? Think about, say this out loud. If you like your job, if you're good at your job, you're highly compensated at your job, and combining them all, you just really enjoy everything about your job.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Say that out loud. Would you want to quit that job? No, you'd want to keep doing it. You're like, wait, I'm getting paid a lot. I love what I do and I'm freaking good at it. why would I walk away? For who? For what? I think that's what Tom realized. I saw Jimmy Traania, Trainiya, Traini. He used to cover like the media for SI.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I'm not sure what he's doing now, but he tweeted something out a couple days ago. Basically, it's going to be funny when Thursday night football happens in, you know, early September, and half the country can't figure out how to watch it. And I got to be honest. I'm not trying to act like some young, progressive, you know, super hip guy. But if you don't have Amazon Prime in 2022, I'm sorry,
Starting point is 00:48:33 you feel a little out of touch. Now, I don't think having Amazon Prime is quite like not having a computer or a cell phone, but it's much closer to that than like not happen Paramount Plus or something. I would, isn't Apple the biggest company in America and arguably the biggest company in the world? Like Amazon Prime provides you, the reason I have Amazon Prime is I got it for free shipping. So most people, every single where I go, whether I go to my mom's house, whether I go to a buddy's house, whether I'm at my house, every single person has Amazon packages getting delivered to their house. I would imagine the percentage of people that use Amazon has dramatically increased over the last several years. If you would have done this in 2016, 17, 18, it would have been a culture shock for sure. In 2022, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And I tweeted, I don't know a single human that does not have Amazon Prime. And some people responded that like, you know, my 87 year old dad has it but doesn't even know how to use it. And like, I'm not trying to be an asshole. Jeff Bezos and my mom's inner 70s does not care about those people, whether they watch or they don't. He does not care. He also did not get into this business for television ratings. He's not a network. He does not give a shit.
Starting point is 00:49:56 This is a line item to him. Just like Whole Foods was when he bought it for $15 billion. He wants in on the NFL business. Whether 2 million people watch the first Thursday night game or 10 million people watch, it doesn't really impact him. Now, I don't know, I haven't read end up how he's going to do with ads and stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:15 It's a subscription bottle. You have to subscribe to it to watch it. He wouldn't even necessarily have to do ads. Like, that's not his business. model. His business model is the ratings are irrelevant, but definitely who's irrelevant are older people. And when I say older people, people in their 70s and their 80s, he wants everyone in their 50s or 60s and their 30s, people that are going to use his product, which is Amazon.com, for a long period of time to subscribe. And let's face it, most of us already are. I wonder what percentage of people. Let's just
Starting point is 00:50:49 pick a even number. Let's say 10 million people. That's actually that number's low. The first game of the seasons on Thursday night, let's say it's 25 million people that are watching in 2021 that watched the first NFL game on Thursday night. Let's use an even number, 20 million people. What percentage of those people last year had Amazon Prime? If I had to guess, I'd say 70 plus percent,
Starting point is 00:51:17 70 plus percent. And then a year later, another incremental amount got it, another 10, 15%, because I know this. As someone that didn't have that many streaming services probably two or three years ago, I have every single one now.
Starting point is 00:51:29 I don't even use half of them. I got Paramount Plus. I got Stars. I got Hulu. I got Apple Plus. The only one I don't have is Disney Plus, mainly because I'm not that into Marvels
Starting point is 00:51:38 and I don't have kids. If I had kids, I would have Disney Plus. Netflix, Amazon Prime. I have a cable service that I pay $300 for. I got it all. But I'm also like
Starting point is 00:51:49 everywhere I go, most people I meet, they have a bunch too. So I don't think this notion of like, where's everyone going to find streaming services? It's like, what's a podcast? People said that in 2010. Do you know what young people say now? What the fuck's a newspaper?
Starting point is 00:52:06 What's ABC? If you don't watch sports, you never go to ABC. If you met a 22 year old kid right now and they weren't into sports, they wouldn't know what ABC, NBC, and CBS is. They have never been on those channels. not once in their teen and future adult life. And they'll never go to them.
Starting point is 00:52:26 So the game changes, things that feel for older people like, like, no, it's changed. It's over. You know, this isn't five years ago. Things happen very, very fast. I think Amazon Prime,
Starting point is 00:52:39 there will be some people that can't find it. And I've had some people that reached out, they were like, I'm a fireman in our fire station. We don't have good internet. We have Amazon Prime, but the streaming, like that will be.
Starting point is 00:52:50 a problem. Like that sucks. But I'd say if you have YouTube TV or whatever, like is NFL Network? Like people have battled with NFL Network before. So it's just different, you know, same shit, different pile, right? I mean, this is just a new problem. But I think the problem is a little bit overrated. And here's the other thing. Bezos is not, Fox got rid of Thursday Night Football because it wasn't making them money. They got rid of PGA Tour Golf and US Open because they didn't feel comfortable they were going to be able to make money. Jeff Bezos ain't into this like big picture he's in it for the money he ain't worried about a profit year one or year two he's worried about getting in on the business this is all line item to him all line item
Starting point is 00:53:29 whether it's a eight billion acquisition 15 billion acquisition this this guy's playing in a deeper end of the pool than everyone else you know so this this notion that he's worried about your 69 year old uncle can't figure it out like he doesn't care of course the patriot signed malcolm butler Remember Malcolm Butler who signed after that Super Bowl where he did not play against the Philadelphia Eagles it was an enormous story. Tom Brady was pissed didn't play a snap because he was sick
Starting point is 00:53:58 or didn't practice hard or wasn't paying attention or who knows. The story never has really been substantiated. Might even be the wrong word but I would say verified what really happened. Not that I necessarily really care but you lose J.C. Jackson,
Starting point is 00:54:14 you get Malcolm Butler. The problem is J.C. Jackson is a lot better player and now you had Tyree Kill, Jalen Waddle, Stefan Diggs. Like, I don't think Malcolm Butler's covering any of those guys, but maybe Bill and that, you know, defensive staff, they just know how to coach better than everyone else. But nobody, and I repeat, nobody loves getting their players back at cheap amounts of money after they signed big free agent contracts,
Starting point is 00:54:36 quite like Bill Belichick. And smart move by these players because they go back and they have more success. I talked to someone, a buddy of mine, that is associated with Lincoln Riley from a business standpoint. And I'm not going to divulge everything I was told. But bottom line, I heard a lot of the details. There's a lot of information that has gone on the last several months, right, about the deal that Lincoln Riley got from USC.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Just know this. Everything that's out there, his deal is actually sweeter. And this guy, buddy of mine is basically a financial advisor, planner, you know, investor. he knows people that are infinite. I mean, he's just in business with doing their money, infinitely have more money than Lincoln Riley. And when he described some of the details of the deal, it was a no-brainer.
Starting point is 00:55:29 Lincoln Riley did not plan on leaving Oklahoma. Just like a lot of people that can be in great situations don't plan on doing things. He got something laid in front of him that was just too good to pass up. Period, point blank, end of story. there is nothing, I repeat, nothing Oklahoma could have done to match the deal.
Starting point is 00:55:49 And then when you factor in, the deal is elite. Also, where he's going to go coach? He can win there. It's actually just as easy to win and the path is easier to get to the playoffs at USC than it is at Oklahoma. Because ultimately now the Baylor's good.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Texas isn't going to suck forever. You know, the Big 12 is actually pretty solid. The Pac-12 is not. Pac-12 has two good, basically, programs over the last couple years. It's Oregon and Utah. and USC's in their side of the division, so they only got to deal with Utah.
Starting point is 00:56:17 And let's face it, Utah and USC are not recruiting the same players. But Lincoln Riley just had his first practice, and it's exciting. You know, it's a really big deal. I don't know for us on the West Coast, just to have USC be relevant again. Now, I don't, a buddy of mine who now coaches or works in the ACC, used to work in the PAC 12.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Last year they played him, and I remember texting him a couple days later, and he was sure. shocked how terrible they were on the line of scrimmage. He's like, bro, they are not very good. Like, whoever gets to this job, because at the time, Lincoln hadn't taken the job or anything. Clay was probably gone by then, but there was just, he was shocked how terrible their
Starting point is 00:56:57 talent is. Now, Lincoln churned over the roster and because of the transfer portal, it's easier. You know, it's like the NFL. You can reset your team a lot easier than it used to be 10 years ago in college football. But I would say this year, 9 and 3 would be a excellent. start to Lincoln, but big picture, when you were getting paid and this many perks at the amount of money in which he's getting and a program whose expectations will be not to just make the playoffs. Now, once he makes the playoffs for the first time, it'll be celebrated. But ultimately,
Starting point is 00:57:28 their goal the next five years will be to win a national championship. That is what's going to be the expectation is. I would say anything less than being in a national championship game in the next handful of years, I would say five is going to be a displace. appointment. When people pay you a shitload of money, when you get paid quote unquote max value in any industry, the expectation skyrocket. The reason everyone's shit on Russell Westbrook is because he makes $45 million a year. No one would be making fun of him. He makes nine. He makes a historic freight and he's terrible. It's like, what are we paying you for? Like if I'm a Laker fan, like, we're using a max lot on this guy, the hell are we doing? If I pay a CEO $35 million
Starting point is 00:58:08 a year in a public company, and then the stock plummets and everything he does doesn't work out, he ain't going to last long. It's what the money is for. It's why you get paid all that money is to produce. And certain places, if I go to K-State, win eight, nine games, I'll get contract extensions for my entire career. I do that at Oregon State. If I'm Mike Gundy at Oklahoma State, they beat Notre Dame in a BCS ball.
Starting point is 00:58:33 That's the biggest, as he said, biggest win in programs history. Lincoln Riley is expected to beat Notre Dame. Notre Dame every single year. Now, Lincoln Riley is expected to be in the final four every single year. Not necessarily this year, but like, after about 24 months, you get, you know, 10 plus million and all the other perks. And he knows that. And that's part of, you know, I think why coaches take, it's why Brian Kelly went to LSU.
Starting point is 00:58:58 Because I think he realized I'm never going to win a national championship at Notre Dame. LSU offered me historic amount of money, right, $9,500 million. and I think that I can win a natty at LSU. Why? Because the last three coaches have. I am going to take a swing, not against a double a pitcher. I want to swing against Pedro Martinez. I want to swing against Clayton Kirshard, Tim Linscom. I don't want to keep taking swings against, you know, some three starters.
Starting point is 00:59:26 And the occasional one starter, but I'm never going to be able to make it to the World Series. And that, I think, is why Lincoln Riley is now at USC. I think why Brian Kelly's now at LSU. and it's going to be a really, really fun college football season, all the movement. I'm really excited and I watch some of Lincoln's press conference on the field after his first practice. You can tell he was excited.
Starting point is 00:59:47 I mean, it's just sometimes change invigorates you. You see how happy Matt Ryan is? I've had some people DME and, yeah, I think Matt Ryan might even mention this. I just started to feel stale. Sometimes, you know, she started feeling stale, especially when you're making a lot of money. It's good to get a jolt.
Starting point is 01:00:03 You know, Matt Ryan now is, is just got something to prove, right? He has been on irrelevant teams the last couple of years. Now he's going to a team with a stacked roster, a team that should be a lock to make the playoffs. Hell, they should win the division, or at least compete to with Tennessee. So sometimes change.
Starting point is 01:00:23 I think Brian Kelly, Lincoln Riley, Matt Ryan, these guys are going to bring it this year. I mean, I like all three of them to win. Brian Kelly probably is the toughest path, right? A&M stacked. Alabama's rolling. Ole Miss probably come back to Earth a little bit, but Georgia's tough.
Starting point is 01:00:42 Isn't that, I guess, LSU plays Florida every year. We'll see how good they are. But, yeah, exciting times. Share the podcast with your friends. Share it with your enemies. Have a great weekend. And mailbag come out Saturday, Sunday.
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