The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out  - Weekend Mailbag on Rodgers Trade Value, Romo Intervention

Episode Date: February 5, 2023

First, John empties out the Middlekauff Mailbag and responds to listener questions heading into Super Bowl week, including Aaron Rodgers trade value, and CBS reportedly staging an intervention with Tony Romo over his lack of game prep.  Subscribe NOW and follow Middlekauff and The Volume on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest content and FanDuel for the best wagering action! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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How are you doing? John Middilcock, Korean Out podcast. Beautiful day in here in Arizona. Sun is out. Super Bowl is right around the corner. Just talking to some people. I guess the chief's staying right down the street from my house. Eagles coming, Chiefs coming.

Super Bowl Week is here and should be fun. Fantastic matchup. But this is just a mailbag. At John Middlecoff is the Middlecoff mailbag. You fire in those DMs, get your question to answer here on the show. Very easy to do. We like interacting with the people. This is the people show.

So at John Middlecoff, fire in those DMs on Instagram, DMs wide open. Let's start with Thomas. I'm trying to better understand the draft. process. I see reports of scouts saying that AR, I think that is the quarterback from Florida, could be the best quarterback in the class. Yet the only thing he's done lately is not playing a ball game and miss 11 straight throws to lose the Florida State. Is this AR camp trying to generate buzz or is there a scout that will say anything to generate headlines? I think you've got to be very careful what you read during this time. I haven't read that many draft synopsises yet.

I think any time that you get guys with elite physical attributes, size, strength, arm strength, speed, they're going to be intriguing prospects. You know, I think he's accomplished more in Will Levis, but, you know, he's going to be the same thing. And depending on who you talk to, you're going to hear good things or you're going to hear bad things. And when you read stuff, and, you know, the media always gets their, you know,

so up in arms. About like, put your name on it. They can't put their name on it. They're never going to put their name on it. They're always going to be anonymous scouts. Like, nothing is a bigger pet peeve than mine than when I see morons. You know, I was going to say blue check marks, but I guess anyone get a blue check mark now if you pay $8 a month. People that cover sports for a living, go, why won't they put their name on it?

Because you know the scouting director can't put their name on it. It doesn't mean what he's saying. He doesn't believe. He might be wrong. It's a subjective business. Um, yeah, I don't know. I mean, I'd be lying if I said I watched that much Florida this year after the, uh, after the Utah game when he was obviously played the best game of his life. And from people that I know that had gone through, they're not that high on him. But, you know, it's, it's a very, very subjective process. I mean, hearing Sean Payton recently talk about his interaction and his time with, uh, with Patrick Mahomes.

and Andy and the Chief's love of Patrick Bahomes. Two people were all in on Patrick Bahams. I was thinking about it this morning, actually. Think how crazy it is. You become a general manager, and Ryan Pace became a general manager relatively young in his life. Late 30s, like 40 years old.

He's the GM of the Chicago Bears. So not like some random franchise. I mean, one of the biggest, I would say most important, but definitely biggest brands, biggest markets, and just historic franchises in the league. And he takes Mitch Trubisky.

Like, that's the guy that he took. Meanwhile, the two coaches, Andy and Sean Payton, they loved Mahomes. So, it shows you. Not everyone knows what they're doing. Hey, John, hope you're well. Chiefs fan from South Africa. Always wanted to go. Why is Sean Payton held in such high regard versus Mike McCarthy?

Three losing seasons, blew the game versus Tampa when leading. Sterling Sharp, not making the Hall of Fame, but Gail Sarah's made it off a seven-year run. Do you believe there should be a forum to almost, most override such grave oversights, how do you believe he was Hall of Fame worthy receiver? Well, Gail Sayers, you know,

a little before my time, even sharp in his prime before he got hurt, a little before my time. So everyone that talked about him said he was had a chance to be a top two or three all-time guy. His brother, obviously, is one of the best tight ends of all time.

I think the Hall of Fame has been very, very diluted over the years. When I close my eyes and I think Hall of Fame, I think Montana, Brady, Manning, Lawrence Taylor, you know, Troy Aikman, Michael Irvin, Ed Reed, Ray Lewis, Dion Sanders, like the cream of the crop, Brett Farve, Aaron Rogers. I don't even like that next tier of guys like even the coaches. You know, I don't know. I have a really, really high standard. I think it's gotten really diluted over the years. And I don't know what to say about that. But your first question, I think Mike McCarthy was out a year and got the head coaching

job with the Cowboys. Now people talk about him. Who cares the way people talk about him? It's irrelevant what people say about you if your industry values you. Mike McCarthy was out of year, interviewed everywhere, and got the Dallas Cowboys job. Like, that happened. And now he's the Dallas Cowboys head coach. So just because people on the outside, and I'm probably guilty of this too, don't think he's

that good, it's irrelevant. An owner pays him $8 million a year to coach the Dallas freaking Cowboys. And now he's the offensive play caller, after he's gone to the playoffs back-to-back years. So I don't think anyone hold Sean Payton like he's some all-time great coach, but relative to the rest of the competition of guys available, he was, I mean, by far, the most sought-after candidate because of his resume. No one could even sniff stacking up to what he brought to the table in terms of what he's done in his career.

So I think it's more about that than comparing him to Mike McCarthy. I also think Sean, a little smoother, better with the media, a lot of media friends. Mike, you know, a little gruffer, little meathead's probably the wrong word, but, I mean, Mike McCarthy claimed when he got hired by the Cowboys that he watched every. one of the games in the interview with Jerry Jones. And then at his press conference he looked at Jerry's like, I'm lying. I didn't watch every game. It's like I don't know. There's an element of Mike

where I don't even know how to quantify or describe it. Something's just, it feels a little off. I'm not saying Sean Peyton is Vince Lombardi, but I would rather have Sean Peyton than Mike McCarthy.

Big fan and I have been for a while. I was just wondering about the Green Bay situation with Aaron. Have they been playing chess while we all think they've been playing checkers? They have already have a young defense and last year they draft two guys to try to solid guy to solid wide receivers. Barring injury are going to develop well and have pretty openly said Jordan Love is the future. Do they get two or three first for Aaron?

Well, I talked about this on the podcast the other day. Thing with Aaron Rogers, like I can't trade you two ones when he says he's going to retire every six months. I had to Google Brett Favre because I was like, did Brett Favre, how did he end up on Minnesota? Obviously, he was traded to the Jets because the Packers would not let him go. Ironically, this morning, I was on Brett Favreve's Wikipedia page and I scrolled down to the end of the Jets early in Minnesota. And obviously he was traded for a fourth round pick to the Jets.

And then the way he got to Minnesota is he claimed to retire again and the Jets just cut him and then he went to Minnesota as a free agent. Like, Aaron Rogers has kind of become everything that he claimed he didn't want to become in the way Brett Farr operated and acted. And that's kind of what he's doing. A little less drama. I think Brett was a little more like,

I'm retiring, and then he'd kind of do it. But then he kind of wouldn't. He'd ask, like, oh, I'm coming back now. Aaron hasn't done that. Aaron just says, I'm contemplating retirement. But if I'm a GM, I can't give you two first-round picks if the fucking guy might quit after a year. If Aaron Rogers just talked openly like Breeze and Peyton and Brady,

like I'm never going to quit until I have to, or my wife leaves me, or my arm falls off, I think they would easily get two first round picks. But he's the opposite. It's like, yeah, I just got to go check out some ayahuasca in the hills. It's like, bro, are you going to play football? Now, in fairness to Aaron, he's always ended up playing football, but every year that goes by it feels like, you know,

You never know with the guy. Okay, for the mailbag. Curious your thoughts on Tony Romo's performance in the booth with Jim Nance this year. From the Andrew Marshall article I read it appears he's consistently not prepared, doesn't study, and get the alleged, and that allegedly caused CBS to organize an intervention for him last offseason. Yeah, I honestly didn't see the article until I saw Cowards take on it. I'm not big on following media critics.

Like, there's nothing I care less about than media critics. I mean, I'd rather I don't even know. I'd rather watch paint dry than read media critics. But once I saw Cowards take, I had to Google it, and then I saw this guy,

wrote an article. I think it's pretty simple. And I was thinking back to when I got involved in the NFL, how overwhelming it was. Every single year, 280 players get drafted. And then every team adds I don't know, 10 undrafted free agents.

I'm just picking that number. Some depends on the team. Some could be 15. Some could be 8. But you're adding a bunch of random college, guys. That's just college. Let alone all the random players in the league that are not, you know, Justin Jefferson or Micah Parsons.

The majority of the league is like a rotational guard. Is the nickel corner. So understanding the NFL is very, very difficult. It takes a shitload of work. That's if you're working in the NFL. Like if you're a scout or a position coach, you're constantly just studying the league who's playing on the other teams,

the rotational guys, the schemes. It's just never ending. The draft, free agency, the movement. But when you're in the league like he was and then just leave the NFL, you've been inundated with it for a decade. You know a lot of the league. Now, ironically is, you know, Fox is the NFC,

so he went immediately to the AFC a league that he didn't play or a conference he didn't play as much. but he had still been in the league and you play conference teams and cross tape. You got a pretty good understanding. Well, the years I remove you away, the amount of work I would have to do to do like a legit pro scout breakdown all the time would be, it would be NFL. It's 90 hour work weeks of just studying players, evaluating them on tape,

studying their background, studying the movement, watching the new guys coming in. It takes so much hard work. The NFL is Wall Street on grass. You work a shitload of hours. And the difference in Wall Street, when you're young, you make a lot of money. In the NFL, you do not. Now, if you hit it big, you know, especially now, a lot of these younger coaches are making it. There's a lot of cash out there.

But I think the amount of work in preparation to be elite at that job it would take is a lot. Because when you do, like, let's just pick a game. Let's pick Chiefs Jags. So he's doing the Chiefs, which is relative. easy to do. He's done a lot of Chiefs games, so he would know most of the players. But when he does the Jags game, obviously

Trevor Lawrence and like Josh Allen the past rush, or they got four or five guys ETIN that are relatively famous, but they got a lot of random guys on that team. And then if they get an injury or two, like if Christian Kirk goes down, their backup wide receiver is not going to be

a guy that the majority of fans know. Hell, I know this. I can't most people listening right now, if you're a Bears fan, if you're a Bucks fan, if you're a Vikings fan, I don't know your roster as good as you. I know your main players, your coaching staff. Like, I've watched you play a lot. But if you watch every single snap of your team, 17 weeks a year, you know that roster better than all the announcers.

You know that roster by far better than all the announcers. I know the 49ers better than everyone listening to this that's not a 49er fan. I know they're players. I know they're rotational guys. I know they're random guys. That takes a lot of effort. That takes me 17 weeks a year. watching three hours of their game, every single snap,

and reading a lot about them. It's like I approach them like I'm a pro scout. And I just wonder if Romo to maintain that level is hard. So I think people question he's not working as hard. I also think this, 20 plus million people on average watch his games. When we're sitting there watching the game and a play happens, it's one thing, you drop a ball, whatever, you fumble.

Like I got no, you miss a tackle. But there are just like, that was a terrible play call. or that was an insanely poor effort, you know, by the DB. When I watch him, and I would love to play golf for them, I'd like to hang out with them. I do think he's a little soft on TV. Like, bro, these guys aren't your friends, you know. We want, think how you watch a game screaming at your TV. Whether you're a gambler, whether it's your team, like you give your, a lot of your time,

which to the NFL is the most valuable thing you can give them. It's paying for everything. Our time as viewers pays for. the entire league. We get mad. And I watch Tony like, is this guy ever going to rip anybody? Is this guy ever going to talk? Like, we want our announcers to talk, be a little critical.

And he's just not. So he's all over the place screaming. That doesn't bother me as much. Like, I'm not looking for perfect, you know, what they teach you in broadcasting school. You can have your own personality. I'm not big into being everyone's friend. Like, these guys aren't all your friends, Tony. Talk a little shit.

Like, when they screw up, blast a coach. and he just rarely does that. Look at Peyton Manning, who has been on record saying the reason he never got in to announcing games because he didn't want to be critical. And even he struggles with it

when he's calling games on the Manning cast. Like, what are you doing? Call a time out. I feel like Tony is just, you gave him. The other thing is, for most people, right, to get that much money,

and part of it is demand. Another network really wanted to hire him. So he was in demand, drove up his market price. If a house is, on the market for five months and no one's bidding on it for a million dollars like I'm offering you 799 like you haven't got an offer in six months if the offers a million dollars and there's a line out the door of people looking at it on an open house and they go yeah we just got 12 offers a day

you better be prepared to offer 1.1 too because if so he had people bidding on his services they gave him 170 million dollars but I give someone 170 million dollars my standards are pretty high. It's why, like, especially, like, I've seen you good. I've seen you prepare. Well, it turns out maybe he didn't have to prepare as much. He just already knew it. And I think it's a complicated situation. Clearly, they're not happy. People don't get happy. Like, I can't be mad at you if I run a business and you are my janitor and I pay you 35 grand a year and you're not great at your job. Like, what am I really going to say to you? If I pay you $17 million, if I pay you $170 million, my standards are be pretty high.

You know, when Fox gave John Madden $8 million in 1993, he fucking brought it and delivered and dominated. Say what you want about Gruden. Like, he brought it. You knew he was studying. If I don't even think you're studying and I'm paying you a premium, now, who is, it's weird. Like, I always struggle with this at CBS. The guy at CBS that's mad at him, it's not his money.

It's a massive corporation. But he signed off on it. He was the one that said this is a good idea, you know? So the shareholders, you know, people start getting mad at him. I also think they're probably looking at Twitter. I don't know if Twitter necessarily matters. Like people think he's diminished in his powers. But at the end of the day,

I don't even think announcers matter that much. I like Greg Olson. You know, he's good. I like Kevin Burkhart. The ratings have gone up since Troy Aikman and Joe Buck gone up. We watched because of the NFL. Like I've always said, like I could bend over, talk like Ace Ventura with my butt cheeks,

and, you know, 50 million people are watching Niners Cowboys. This isn't a complicated formula. So maybe they're just mad they didn't have to give them that much money. Newsflash, you didn't. You could have hired anyone random. It would have been fine. I know you want the headlines. You want the Marchands to write about you.

Who cares? So yeah, I just think it's a lot of work. And I don't know the guy. I can't speak to his work ethic. But I think it's very, very easy right out of the league. This year, the only app you need it. Your Super Bowl party is Fandul, America's number one sports book. Okay, right now, download Fandle.

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In your time as a scout, is there one player you hang your hat on, say, this is the guy? I knew it was going to be a stud. No. When I was in the NFL, for two years, I did pro scouting, and it was more just keeping grades on players. People aren't coming to you like, Middilkoff, give me your top seven guys in this free agency.

It was more just having updated grades. You know, they just didn't care what I thought. I mean, at the end of the day. There was a guy, Andrew Sendejo, that was playing in this little, like, XFL or AFL or UFL. one of those random leagues back in like 2011. I went to Louis Riddick, and I said, listen, this guy can play, no one would listen to me,

and then 10 years later he's got a 10-year career, no big deal. But I wasn't pounding the table. I only did college scouting for one year, and I didn't like Matt Barkley, and shit, 10 years later, you're selling the league. Is there an argument that Chanahan scheme assignments leave his quarterback exposed more than others, offensive system when an assignment is missed?

I mean, the injury issues before Jimmy G, Lance Purdy, I think here's the issue with Shanahan is his scheme is based on misdirection. His scheme is not based necessarily on power at the point of attack, right? His offensive linemen is athleticism. It's a zone scheme means they're running more laterally than they are pushing you backwards.

When you play other teams that see zone offenses, especially in practice, they're not going to bite on all your fakes and shoot down the line. So Hassan Reddick, even though the Eagles offense is not the Niners' offense, they run zone running scheme concepts. So when you do some of this play action, which obviously the Eagles do as well, Hassan Reddick is less likely to like, I'm just going to shoot down the line of scrimmage and chase nobody.

He's going to go, okay, I got a backup tight end, see you, buddy, and then chase your quarterback. Well, San Redick, one thing that really bothered me about Kyle, and I think he's a fantastic coach and the Niners are lucky to have him. and part of being ego and belief in yourself and what makes anyone great at their job is like this desire to not let the outside noise influence how they do things. Like if he would have done that,

he wouldn't be as good as he was. But Brock Purdy, the guy that turned your team into kind of a powerhouse. Like the 49ers had a chance to win the Super Bowl, not with Jimmy Garaple. They had a chance to win it with Brock Purdy. And when you put him in that compromising position,

a couple weeks later, you could have gone, or just a week later, because he talked on Thursday, you know what? If I had that to do over, I wish I would have called another play. It's pretty simple to say. I don't blame him for running Tray Lance. Tray Lance is an inaccurate quarterback.

Now, if you want to say, why are you running a guy that's not that fast, that's another argument. Jimmy Garoppel was a freak deal. But the Purdy situation, like, put your backup tight end who can't block any good players against, I don't know, it goes Nick Bosa, Micah Parsons, Asan Redick this year for best outside edge pass rushers, you would never do that to Nick Bosa. So I just, I hated that he just wouldn't acknowledge,

I regret that. Because we all regret stuff. I regret saying that, honey. I wish I would have, I wish I would have had a different take for a podcast, you know, segment. Like, we, I wish I would have bought this stock at $30 instead of $55.

We all regret. And again, there's a difference between letting regret, hover in your mind the rest of your life and just going, you know what, if I had that to do over again, I would have. Right? I'm not living in the past, but it was a mistake. This is a black and white business.

This is an end result business. And the end result of that play was Hassan Reddick, who is an elite edge rusher, ripped your quarterback's elbow off. I'm like, that's the end result. Freak play! Yeah, the freak play, that's the result. John just had thought in the morning drive to work.

For as good as Coach Kyle Shanahan is, do you think there is something inherently wrong with the offense he runs? Seems every year their quarterback goes down, Jimmy G. It's kind of the same question. I think what makes Kyle really good is his offense and is his scheme. I think he has to be pretty careful with the way the unblocked looks with some of these pass rushers. I understand it's part of his offense, but he does not have Ben Rothensburg sitting back there. Brock Purdy is six feet tall. he's just a smaller guy.

Now, luckily, Purdy's pretty athletic, and that was a play that nothing, you know, he's trying to take a deep shot. I just think when it comes to protecting his quarterback, and I've always been one to say, it's football, guys get injured. There's only so much you can do.

But we now have a couple years of, a couple years of evidence. From L.A., big bucks fan, Florida, two-part question. I truly believe Brady is done, hoping he moves on, and we can spend all the cap on a younger star quarterback that fixes our O line and secondary.

Would I be dreaming if I thought we should trade for Lamar? I feel the offense could be the best in the league. If you added ability at quarterback, Florida State Income Taxes, I think Lamar is from Florida too, isn't he? Two first rounders, the second and third. How does this sound? Yeah, I mean, if I were the bucks, I would definitely trade for Lamar Jackson. Two, are the Florida Gators just done in the big scheme of college football?

I feel they may be on the same boat as USC when it comes to national perception of the program. I tell all my SC fans out here that SC, I think he lives in LA, Big Boy, 6-5, Florida positions, we haven't signed an elite wide receiver, or running back in a long time. I think one issue you've had, only so many teams can be on top at one time, right?

You can't have eight SEC teams all killing it because they're all recruiting the same crop of 40 guys. So if all of them, you know, equally split those 40 guys, your team's not going to be as good. Historically, Georgia, LSU, Bama, or whatever, or even Florida when they've been on, get the majority of those guys. The reason Ohio

State tends to be better than most Big Ten teams every single year, they get better players. If I took five of their top 20 players and I put them on Michigan, then Michigan and them would just be equals. Part of the reason, and I understand

Michigan's beat them a couple years in a row, but if I took 10 of their top 20 players, and I gave three to Michigan and four to Minnesota and three to Wisconsin, it would spread the love. Well, that's kind of what happens in the SEC. Bam and Georgia, kind of get them all. And then LSU, depending on the year, also does pretty good. Now it feels like Tennessee's recruiting a lot better.

Recruiting is the end-all-be-all. I saw Joel Clatt going off on USC's recruiting class. Like, this is what I like Lincoln. He's a excellent offensive coach. If he does not recruit defense at a really high level, he's never winning an addy. What he did at Oklahoma was impressive. They had Heisman trophy winners.

They had NFL players at every position. Wide receiver, running back, O-line, tight-end, quarterback. Their offense was elite. Their offense could have played with anybody. But if your defense has me and you playing for them, you ain't beating Georgia, Ohio State, or Bama, even in a sport that is much more offensively driven. You have to tackle.

I don't need you to be the 85 Bears or, like, 2010, Alabama, but you cannot be what you're at. and, you know, one thing that's different with USC and Florida, like, is Billy Napier any good? Is Billy Napier any good? I've heard good things about him. I know people that like him. But if he's not good, they're screwed. At least with Lincoln, like, you're going to compete to make the playoffs.

Are you going to compete to be, I think how hard it is to be third in the east now. Georgia lock number one. I guess Tennessee is basically like, you know, a lock number two. I just think it's very, very difficult, man. Okay, last question. I was just wondering what you think people who seem intent on downplaying the Eagles win against the Niners, ignore Shanahan and deciding to block Reddick with a backup tight end. A lot of Shanahan and Redick talk.

Source subject, man. I lost $2,000. Heard you hit a big golf bet. Who are you rolling with for Pebble Beach? Looking to make a few bets. I have a little money on Scott Stallings and Boe Hostler, but this is late. The Pebble Beach tournament is a guy It's such a diluted field.

I'm going to go heavy, heavy this next week at waste management With probably a couple large wagers on some of the top guys. I play out there a lot now. The course is hard. All the elite guys, Rory Rom. Sheffler, I mean, the big dogs are all coming at JT. It's next week should be pretty special. Should be pretty freaking awesome.

So we will get the golf podcast up and running. I was going to put a go low thing on my YouTube channel. I had like a 30 minute window on Wednesday. I recorded something and then it deleted and I was like, so I got to be better about that. But the golf podcast coming back, full go. I think actually might go play golf this afternoon. We got football right around the corner.

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or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey,

or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it.

Listen to The Clifford show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human.