The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 and Out - W's Will Jumpstart Washington Re-Brand; Cowboys Just Not That Into Dak; Gamblers Deserve Corona Transparency; Mailbag

Episode Date: July 14, 2020

In this episode, John explains why the threat of losing money ultimately pushed Dan Snyder across the finish line to change the Redskins nickname, why winning is the best solution to re-brand the team, why it seems like the Cowboys are fine letting Dak Prescott play this season under the franchise tag, and why gamblers deserve transparency on players infected with the coronavirus. He also answers listener questions in the Middlekauff Mailbag. Follow John on twitter @JohnMiddlekauff and go to theherdnow.com to find the latest content. Subscribe now! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I just, whatever the first thing I see I just read at John Middlecock, Instagram handle slide up in there. Okay, let's dive into the Washington, I don't know what they're going to be called football team. Because now we know, I guess it's unofficially official, that they will no longer be called the Redskins. And I've said over and over, I don't spend that much time thinking about this story. I never have over the years. I wasn't, you know, against changing the name.

I wasn't for changed the name. I really did not care. They changed the name. Fine, good. It doesn't matter. And I think two things you see here. One, nothing has ever changed in business when things are going well. Because under Dan Snyder, despite being the self-made billionaire, his franchise has been a disaster on the field.

an absolute train wreck. I think the only teams you'd put in their kind of realm over the last 15 years in terms of winning and losing, I would imagine if we broke this down, it would probably be the Browns and the Raiders. That they have lost at high rates. Beside, you kind of siphon out the RG3 rookie year, the Redskins have been a joke.

Now, what they have not been a joke at is making money. They've made a lot of money. The franchise valuation has skyrocketed. Part of that is just the growth of the NFL. Part of that is they're in a massive market, but their brand is big. So clearly all these, the FedEx, Nike, when these big corporations start kind of putting your feet to the fire, it forces change. Because for as much as people on Twitter think that everything happens under the goodness of their heart and companies when they change and they do all these advertising. on TV about, you know, different social issues.

It's always about money. It always is because any public corporation, their number one priority is about profits and losses and cash. And once they start, whoever they're partners with or in business with, start threatening to take away their money, it creates change. We saw it over the last month with Facebook, right? I think some, was it Sprint or some of these companies are like, we will not advertise on Facebook anymore.

Well, guys, you're not advertising on Facebook because like most of us, we think the company's kind of shady. You're doing it simply because we're in the middle of a pandemic. You're probably losing your ass. You've got to cut the marketing bill. Because here's what I do know as someone that's advertised on Facebook and on Instagram. It works. Why do most people advertise on those platforms?

It works. I knew that they do shady stuff that I wouldn't. trust Zuckerberg to walk my dog across the street, let alone to the information that I gave him. He sold it. I mean, whether I knew that was going to happen or not, I put that on me. But after that information came out, I kept advertising on Instagram. Again, why it worked. So it's easy to say, we're no longer advertising on Facebook. Yeah, let's check the books. You're losing cash these last couple quarters. You've got to cut a budget, and it's easy to cut the advertising budget. It's kind of a tried and true formula in a recession.

So I think it was an easy one for some of these companies when everything was happening in America to be like, we no longer stand with Dan Snyder and his refusal to change the name. So ultimately that creates some change. And I think I would imagine the biggest reason Dan Snyder never wanted to change the name is because there's a huge branding element to it. But the more and more I thought about it, I was like, well, it's not like the last 20 years. If you wanted the Patriots to change their name, it would be a pretty freaking big deal. Because when you see the Patriots brand, you immediately think Super Bowls winning Brady Belichick, massive brand. You don't necessarily think winning with the Cowboys, but you think brand, right?

You think the Packers, the Steelers, teams that have been consistently winning over the past couple decades. I would say if you tried to force them to change their name right now, it would be a pretty big deal. There's a reason I don't even, you just never know in the times we live in in the culture. Let's say there was something wrong with the Yankees or like the Lakers, right? There was just, again, I don't think there is.

I'm pretty sure the Yankees were fighting, you know, the good side of the war and the Lakers were just named after lakes because they came from Minnesota. But let's say, like the version of the Redskins, people were trying to get them to change the name because in this hypothetical, it wasn't politically correct. Well, if I was Jeannie Bobby,

or I was the Steinbrenner's kids, you would have a fight on your hands. Because those brands mean a lot more than the Redskins brand. Simply because this team has been terrible. I mean, God-awful for several decades now. Yeah, they had some histories like when I was born in the mid-80s, so in the late, in the 80s they were good. Who cares? 1990, right now, is 30 years ago.

Think how average they have been, especially just the last two decades, in the internet age. We've seen other teams change their name and be okay. I mean, it's happened in the NFL. Now, it even happened in their region with the Washington Bullets. They changed their name to the Wizards. You know what? At the end of the day, it didn't really matter. Kind of like this franchise, they haven't been that good either.

They had a little run right with Gilbert Arenas and Antoine Jameson and then the last couple years. You're just known as the Wizards, whatever. But let's look at the football standpoint. This isn't that complicated. The Baltimore Colts in 1984 left to go to Indianapolis. The Cleveland Browns in the mid, I guess, 96, 97 decided to leave and go to Baltimore. And they were called the Baltimore Ravens. And what happened over the last, you know, I think that happened in 98 to 2020?

We just go, oh, the Baltimore Ravens. Ray Lewis, Jonathan Ogden, a couple Super Bowls. The Houston Oilers. They were the Houston Oilers. Moved to Tennessee. Tennessee Titans. What happened to Houston? I don't know.

They got a team. They didn't name it the Oilers. They named it the Texans. Houston Texans. Tennessee Titans. You just change. And it just happens. Especially with teams with history that are not like the major brands of the sport.

Like the Lakers, the Yankees, the Celtics, the Steelers, the Packers. They're just, you know, if you. If you change the Houston Texans name tomorrow, you know, in a couple years, I don't think it would be that big a deal. If you change the Jacksonville Jaguars name yesterday, I don't think it would impact that much. Now, if you change the New York Giants or the New England Patriots, or the Pittsburgh Steelers, or the San Francisco 49ers, it would have a huge lasting impact.

I'm even talking if, you know, if you just change the name randomly, not even because it was PC, be like, that would be a big deal. with this team, if it wasn't for ESPN force-feeding us the NFC East, I don't think most people outside of the Northeast region would even care. And I would imagine if you poll a lot of people in like Philly, New York, Boston, they don't even care about this football team.

Like obviously the D.C. area is a major market. But when your team sucks for this long, and they have sucked for this long, I think it's easier to make a change. We've seen it happen in other sports, and we've definitely seen it happen in football. Now, typically in football it happens when a team leaves, like the Baltimore Colts or like the Houston Oilers. But in this, I think in a couple years, if they're the Washington Warriors or the Washington Red Tails or whatever they ultimately are called, he will still print money. And if he's ever able to win, you could argue it would like refresh a new brand.

if somehow in two years Ron Rivera and you know either gets a new quarterback or you know helps this guy that you know the second year guy they have from Ohio State, Duane Haskins and they just become good and maybe in two years or three years they're

a consistent playoff team and they're just known as the Washington Red Tails or the Washington Warriors or the Washington whatever I don't even think people will remember we've never lived in a time where people forget faster. Now, it's much, much more difficult when your teams have been consistently relevant and consistently winning. It's not the case here.

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sometimes it behooves you to not blow up her phone the next day. Maybe even for a couple days. Just lay low. Anyone that's ever been into a contract negotiation, you know, in terms of business, knows that sometimes the less aggressive person

has the upper hand to just lay low. low. If someone makes you an offer, you don't have to respond right away. Make them be desperate. But we're talking maybe a day, maybe three days, maybe at most a week. Now, I wouldn't recommend if the date goes well waiting a week, but waiting a couple days is not crazy. But if the date goes really well, where the business contract negotiations go really well, and you go, you know what? Because we've all sent it. I, you know, you call up your friend, call up your buddy, you call up your business partner like, I think we got a huge deal. Well, I think I met the love of my life. And then you don't

hear from them for, let's say, a month, usually that's a pretty big red flag. And I think we realize, you know, maybe she doesn't like you. Maybe it didn't go as well as you thought on the date from her perspective. Maybe the business contract negotiations turned them off because they're nowhere to be found. And there comes to a point where patience crosses the line of no communication being a bad thing. And I'll never forget when Mike McCarthy got the job, Jane Slater, was talking to Mike McCarthy on NFL network, and she asked him, have you contacted Dak Prescott yet? And this was a couple days into, you know, he had been officially hired, he had given his press conference, and his response, I remember put up red flags in my world, and a lot of people, you know,

to cover the league on Twitter. It's like, God, that's kind of weird. And Mike McCarthy said, no, I have not called him. This is your starting quarterback. This isn't your right guard. This isn't your outside line. This is your quarterback. The lifeblood of any franchise with the coach.

And definitely for a new coach. I remember thinking, God, you know, I get there's a lot going on, but McCarthy's had the year off. I mean, just, what has he just been hanging out with Jerry? He couldn't give the guy a call? I remember thinking that was really weird. and Clarence Hill, who covers the Cowboys, reported today that the Cowboys have not had contract negotiations

with Dak and his camp since March. It's pretty clear. I don't even think it's arguable right now. Are the Cowboys really interested in extending him to a long-term contract? Is Mike McCarthy, the new head coach, sold on Dak Prescott being his quarterback for the next. four or five years. Under a contract, whatever, $30, $35 million.

Regardless of the exact number per year, one thing we know, with quarterback contracts, Mahomes is an outlier. And if I hear one more time, Mahomes' contracts really going to impact Dak? No, it won't. Mahomes and Dak have nothing in common, besides they both play quarterback. I mean, Mahomes has won an MVP

and a second year carried team to Super Bowl. Literally won the Super Bowl for the Chiefs. We saw that. Like, it happened. Dak Prescott couldn't beat the Eagles when they were playing with like Carson Wentz, me, and you. We also saw that game. I like Dak Prescott.

But when I see the $35 million a year in numbers, I went, you know, if I was Jerry, if I was McCarthy, I think I'd pump the brakes. I've said a couple months ago, maybe a little less, who knows, it's in the middle of Corona, I can't even keep up with the dates, that I would date Dak Prescott,

I would not marry him. I would feel very comfortable playing on the franchise tag. It's pretty clear. The Cowboys are also very comfortable making Dak Prescott playing the franchise tag. I don't know this. I don't know the guy. But I think if we go back to those first couple days when he was hired

and when he told Jane that, you know, I haven't called him yet, maybe Mike McCarthy the entire time wasn't totally on board with signing him to this long-term contract. Because if I was the coach and I had a quarterback that I believed, And here's the thing, when you're a head coach in the league, and when you're anyone in the league, people always ask me this, like, do you evaluate every position? If you're a team with a quarterback, are you evaluating quarterbacks?

And my response is, yes, teams always evaluate every position. Because you just never know a player in a trade. If you're a coach at any moment, you get fired. Now, if you're an offensive coach, you might not be, if you're an offensive assistant coach, you're probably not breaking down secondary players in the draft. But if I'm an offensive coordinator or a head coach

on the offensive side of the ball like Mike McCarthy, he studied Dak coming out. And obviously I think he played them once he was in the league with the Packers and he played Dak Prescott. Obviously he played him actually in the playoffs when they beat him, I think it was Dak's rookie year, remember when Rogers carried that team to the NFC championship.

But if you remember, Dak actually had a really good game. game against the Packers. It was their defense. It was atrocious. But he's going to have a pretty good idea. And then when he took the Cowboys job, I would imagine the first thing he did

when he was evaluating different teams, where should I go, where should I not go, is watch the quarterback. Watch the offense and specifically the quarterback. Kind of his bread and butter. Again, in theory, we can nitpick Mike McCarthy all we want. Well, you know, they did a pretty good job with Aaron Rogers. How much credit is that on Mark?

Mike, I don't know. But he has to get to. some. He just does. I'm sorry. I get there were some articles that called in the village idiot. Maybe Aaron doesn't think that highly of them. For a long time, Mike McCarthy was widely regarded from basically 2010 to like 2015 as a top four or five coach in the NFL. I know the coaching community thinks pretty highly of them. Ended weird in Green Bay. I think Mike McCarthy is a pretty solid head coach. But I would want my quarterback, if I really like the guy,

under contract. I think there's a chance Mike McCarthy doesn't like him that much. And if you're Jerry and you just hired this guy to a five or six year contract, what's the Russian pay and deck? You have all the power

because you can franchise him this year and then again next year. And if this year he goes on to have a Joe Flacco type season and you win the Super Bowl or you make a long playoff run, then you can extend him and quote unquote overpay him.

But if he doesn't, maybe you can look to move on. Who knows? maybe Mike McCarthy, I don't think it would be impossible to like Andy Dalton better than Dak Prescott, but maybe Mike McCarthy likes a thought of a much cheaper guy with a team that has a bunch of money spent on other positions to give you a little wiggle room. I don't know. But when you have not had contract negotiations since March, you know, if she hasn't called

you in a month, she probably doesn't like you that much. When you like someone, Brett Veach talked about last week when they have to be that. their conference call with the media after they signed Mahomes. They were thinking about Mahomes contract and building their team and thinking about extending guys on their own team a month into him starting because it was so clear they already liked them clearly a ton coming out given they traded for him. They had seen them all season long practicing. The moment he played that week 17 game against Denver, the lights went off for many people

in that organization. And then once he actually became the starter, it was clear the guy was a star. They started thinking about it like two or three games in to his starting career. The Cowboys have had four years of Dak Prescott. It's not like he's been hurt. He doesn't miss any games. He's durable. And they've showed you with their actions, they're not that into him.

Not that they're not into them, but they're not head over heels and love because it's not like they're throwing a bunch of money his way. They're not rushing to do some Kansas Chiefs contract. And I'm not even talking about 10 years, $500 million. Where's their like five-year, you know, $200,000? million dollar contract. Again, I've said from the jump, the Jared Goss, the Dack Prescott's, I'm just not in the business of paying them big time money.

I can't do it. Now, you could always push back, go, well, how are you going to upgrade? I think it's never been an easier time to find functional quarterbacks, and if I'm going to spend $35 to $40 million on a quarterback, he better be Patrick Mahomes, Russell Wilson, peak Aaron Rogers. I know Brady always took discounts, but Pete Tom Brady, Peyton Manning. I ain't doing it with a guy that is probably somewhere between the 14th and 9th best quarterback in the NFL in a given day.

I can't do it. I can't pay a premium for a guy that's not a premium. It's kind of clear that the Cowboys are thinking that as well. Okay, let's talk about our favorite subject, the coronavirus, and something I saw that's happening in the NBA. the NBA is very, very sensitive when it comes to anything, right? We know that. And the coronavirus and this bubble situation is off to a weird start.

They had a lot of star players, I think like five all-stars, did not show up with their teams. And one thing we learned throughout Monday is that two of those players, two of easily the most famous players in the NBA, and our teammates, Russell Westbrook and James Harden, have Corona. And it's not that big of a deal now, given that it's only July, I'm recording this on July 13th. The games don't start until, I think, July 31st or August 1st.

But if you want to be a league in 2020 who's in bed with gambling companies, and on my other podcast, I'm in bed with a gambling company, Here's what I know. If you want to be taken seriously as a gambling operation and a sport we should gamble on, you have to be transparent with your injuries. And in 2020, that also includes Corona. Now, the sport that is by far the best at their transparency,

who has been in bed with gambling the longest indirectly, is the National Football League. There is literally an injury report every single day of Game Week. I guess every single practice day Wednesday Thursday Friday official list Saturday Now sometimes things crop up on Sunday but an hour and a half before the game We know the actives we know the inactives and throughout the week we've gotten You know probables questionables likely the stuff during the week for injured players and the NBA Who has dipped their toes heavily into gambling though unlike football questionable sport

to gamble on during the regular season. Guys don't try and load management. During the playoffs, I've gambled on series. I've actually gambled against Russell Westbrook and OKC the last three years. Won money every single year. In two of those years, they were the heavy favorite. One big cash. I like gambling on NBA playoff series.

But right now, the NBA is clearly not being very transparent with who has corona and who doesn't have corona. I don't really understand it. For example, golf, when a guy gets Corona and they pull out, they announce it. The NFL, I haven't seen the protocols. Last I saw, they were working on different protocols with the union. They're talking through it on Monday. I guess they have another call on Tuesday.

Here's what has to take place. The moment a player gets Corona in the season, it's not as important during training camp. But once you start playing games, the public has to know. especially if it's a quarterback. If Deshawn Watson or Patrick Mahomes or Jimmy Garoppel or Jared Gough or we could list every quarterback in the league is going to be out for multiple games, I can't find that out an hour and a half before the game on Sunday. Because the one thing we know so far this fall,

the media is not going to play a big role. They're not playing a big role in the NBA. They're not, I think like one guy's allowed to go to practice, not that many people in the bubble. For those of you that haven't seen in training camp, They're only allowing four media members per day out of practice. And even then you're not allowed to comment, tweet, or write in your story what happens at practice,

which I don't even care about that. That impacts other NFL franchises. But I think there's two reasons why they do the injury report every week. One, competitive balance. Know who's in, know who's out, or give yourself each team a field. Because you have to send the injury report to the opposing team. When I worked for the Eagles, I would print out the injury report my first year when I was like the lowest guy in the totem pole. And I would take it.

First, I'd drop it off to Andy and Howie. And then I would take it to every position coach. And I would drop off a hard copy of the injury report who's probable, who's out, who's doubtful, you know, on every assistant coach, especially the coordinators. And I think the NBA is showing, I'll be shocked if they're very transparent in the bubble. when it comes to the coronavirus. Well, you can't be in bed with gambling companies and do that. I can't all of a sudden be like, well, I've just put money on the Houston Rockets and all of a sudden James Hardin and Russell Westbrook are nowhere to be found.

Now, we understand that at any moment guys can get it and they're going to be out, which, listen, I am pro all these leagues starting back up. People are going to test positive. We know that. If you just look around the country, people are testing positive as high rates. It's mostly younger people. It's mostly younger people right now. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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Well, you tell me all the time when they get an ACL. You tell me all the time when, hell, they get sick in a non-pandemic. You tell me when they have serious injuries or serious illnesses, you have no problem breaking that. What is the difference? And I think the leagues need to get on top of it. this in the NFL who is as pro gambling now as any league because they see the revenue stream and they see the money that's going to start flowing that it's a complicated season and we all

acknowledge that and you can we'll dive in as the season gets closer it's going to be a challenge i think i've seen some week one lines already out it's going to be difficult i don't even know how you factor in if fans aren't allowed home field it's weird i mean it's just we'll dive into all that as we get closer and we know more information but the number one thing we have to know is your quarterback healthy? Is your star defensive player going to play?

Like is he just a quote unquote healthy scratch and all of a sudden, well, obviously that guy can't happen. That one million percent cannot happen. The consumer has to know. There can't be inside information and I think it's going to be a complicated issue definitely in the NBA.

I am confident the NFL will get out in front of this. but it'll be interesting. I think they need to look at how baseball and basketball, I don't know how baseball necessarily is going to handle it, but I don't think baseball is making it public either. You can't be taken seriously as a gambling sport. And when all they talk about is gambling revenue, gambling revenue,

gambling revenue, part of that is transparency if you want people to gamble on your sport. And I think this is going to be a trying time this fall for these people to actually practice what they preach. Luckily for the NFL, they already have a built-in mechanism I just think adding the corona element is going to make things very, very interesting. Calling all partners, losing weight is better together with Nutrisystem's partner plan. In fact, people who diet together lose 20% more weight than dieting on their own.

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I don't have a great accounting method that I don't mean to skip anything. I don't mean to miss anything. Sometimes I just do. So if I haven't missed your question, just send me a DM again. And I will hopefully read your question. I'm not doing it on purpose.

I just, I just got a lot of DMs and a lot of dudes asking football questions. Question for you from Gavin. Right now, the current rhetoric is that athletes should be okay to play during the pandemic because they are in top shape

and the lower impacted age group. While I know there are still a lot to figure out, my concern is that athletes with underlying conditions and what this means to them and their team is being overlooked. For example, as a Bengals fan, I am particularly concerned about Gino Atkins would not be able to play because he has sickle cell. Have you heard any conversations around the topic addressing situations

in which players have underlying conditions and current thoughts about handling these cases to lessen the harms to players and their teams. It's a great question, and one that I don't have a great feel for answering. I would imagine there are going to be guys that have underlying conditions that have made some money that may skip playing,

just be an educated guess based on some of the other leagues, had some guys not play. The other thing, the NFL, different than, like, basketball, it just has a lot more players. You have 53 guys in a roster. Now, I'm pretty sure Vaughn Miller has asthma and got Corona and he's playing. I don't know about sickle cell the impact that has. I'd have to read something.

You'd probably know better than me if you're even thinking about it. I'm pretty sure isn't that. People with sickle cell, that's the limited, is it white blood cells and guys going into Denver, Colorado, why guys haven't played in the past? I'm trying to think who was it that didn't play a while back, a safety I thought that didn't play against the guy on the Steelers. I don't remember, but I know it's definitely happened before when they played the Broncos. Yeah, I mean, I think they will have protocols and cautions to be overly cautious with every player,

let alone the guys with underlying conditions. Part of the reality we're living in, though, you know, the PC crowd won't like this, but you don't have to play. You know, if you have underlying conditions, like you don't have to play. And then depending, you know, based on pay, and, you know, their legalities, you can always sue to try to get your money

if you want to play, but they don't let you play. I don't know. These are things that are above my pay grade in terms of complications. When you just look at the history of the NFL because guys, you know, your career can end at any moment and the amount of money, a guy like Gino Atkins would have on the,

the line, I would just take an educated guess he'd want to play, but I don't know. You'd have to talk to a doctor. It's a good question, though. If you had to pick one of these three quarterbacks for the next 10 years, which one would you choose and why? Lamar Jackson, Carson, Wents, and Deshawn Watson. I had a buddy text me in the league the other day and said he heard something. I think Colin was talking about Lamar Jackson, kind of like Patrick Mahomes, in terms of

the contract and what you're going to do. And this scout, a high-level scout, had a good point. He said, well, the thing with Patrick Mahomes, he's 25, and as crazy as it sounds, he hasn't really scratched the surface. Like, he's only been a two-year starter. He can get a lot better mentally in terms of reading defense. He even talked about, like, when he, that first year he started playing, he didn't even quite know what was going on.

He won the MVP. Think how much better he'll be mentally in like four or five years. years where you could argue Lamar Jackson might never be better than he is these first couple years in this upcoming year like it might be the peak of his powers and his point basically was like Patrick Mahomes is a sending stock he is trending up there's a chance Lamar Jackson that that was as good as it gets because a huge percentage of what he does is based on his feet and you're not able to run around like that forever now he's young he's He's a freak athlete.

Here's the other thing. When you run around, you essentially or eventually get hurt. Maybe you can avoid it for a longer period of time. It feels like Lamar is a pretty smart runner. But I think Carson Wentz, by far, is the most talented of the three. But if I had to pick a guy for the next 10 years, that would be a pretty risky bet, right? He got hurt in 17.

He got hurt in 18. He played all 16 games, but he didn't get a concussion. in 19. Now, that's a freak deal. But betting on a guy that legitimately showed me, he struggles to stay healthy, would be kind of crazy. He was hurt in college. Lamar Jackson, I still think, is a really risky pick. I know Deshawn Jackson, or excuse me, not Deshaun Jackson, who I think Schaefter tweeted, will go to Auschwich, I would imagine after the pandemic.

We'll see if that comes to fruition, but claims he will. It would be between Deshawn Watson and Lamar Jackson. I would go with Deshawn Watson. Now, like I said, I think Carson Wentz is the most talented. If injuries weren't a factor, he'd be a no-brainer first pick. And I think there's a chance if he doesn't stay healthy. He's better than these two. Lamar Jackson, I just struggle with guys that are very, very dependent on running the ball.

This is a passing league. And when it was not cutting time the last two years in the playoffs, Lamar couldn't get it done because he couldn't throw on third and long. And I know people have said, well, if you look at the game last year, 500 yards offense, I watched the game, got his ass kicked. Deshawn Watson has carried a very, very flawed team to the playoffs year after year.

And even he doesn't, I wouldn't say, have a great arm. There's just something intangible about him as a passing quarterback, as a playmaking quarterback with his arm. I've seen Lamar do it when they're just kicking people's asses on Monday night football, playing the Rams, whatever. It just hasn't translated to big games. I saw Deshaun Watson do it last year in the playoffs while getting his butt kicked by the bills

who were one of the best defenses in the league and just play after play after play after play the dude just made plays. So I would go with Sean Watson. Now, I like that question. Lamar Jackson, to think that he can just sustain this for a decade would be naive based on history.

Maybe he's an outlier, but usually, you know, if you bet on, on outliers, you tend to get burned. Question for the pod. What do you think teams like the Raiders, Chargers, or Steelers, Bengals, have to be able to do to win their conference

against stacked power teams like the Chiefs or the Ravens, especially with Mahomes staying in Kansas City for the next decade? Personal question. What kind of career path did you take to become an NFL scout? That's something as a college student I'd like to look into. Okay.

On the personal question, I have a YouTube page, and I do it with Guy Haberman, who I have the other podcast with, and we put up a couple videos, I think two weeks ago, he's a play-by-play guy. I was a scout,

how to become a scout. I put the video on the YouTube channel. If you go to the YouTube channel, Haberman and Middilcoff, started it during Corona, a bunch of NFL videos, a lot of Niner talk too, but we put a video on how to become a scout

up on the YouTube page. So I think, because a lot of people have asked this question, I just put it on the YouTube page, easy to find, easy to see, kind of a breakdown of my path. Though like anything, and like any industry, there's no direct path that this was kind of a, you know, I'm not, the path I took might not be for everyone.

Your question on Kansas City and the Ravens, I think the chargers and the Raiders are in a little more trouble. Because when you're in the division of, and I think the closest thing to this would be Brady or Manning, They're going to kick your ass the majority of the time. Mahomes is going to be the best player in the AFC West until he gets injured. I mean, he's 25 years old.

There's a chance the life of this deal is just his entire prime. The Colts had Peyton Manning for, you know, what, 14, his prime. Really, his prime started year two. And they kicked everyone's ass. It felt like they won the AFC South every single year. And remember the Titans had some good teams. Jaguars weren't any good and the Texans were bad. So the division was definitely easier.

To me, the Raiders, like, how are they going to score with them? The Raiders struggle to do two things against the Chiefs. Score at their level, and they can't play any defense. So if you can't cover anybody, they have no pass rush. The Raiders are an awful matchup against the Chiefs under John Gruden once they got rid of Khalil Mack. An awful matchup. They have no pass rush and they can't cover a soul.

So maybe their defense is better this year. We'll see. The Chargers actually a little bit better matchup because they got a bunch of defensive backs and they have good pass rushers. If you're going to play with the Chiefs, you better get after the quarterback and you better have guys that can cover.

And the Chargers have those two guys. Now, can they consistently score? Who knows? Tyrod Taylor, Justin Herbert, a lot of unknowns. I don't have the answers. Can't wait to watch it. But I say the Chargers match up if Justin Herbert just becomes like a Dak.

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Tarter should be pretty good. If Justin Herbert is just Dak Prescott, what he became, Chargers was being in pretty good shape. Now, are they better than the Chiefs? No. Can they hang with them? Yes. When it comes to the Steelers and the Bengals, you know, you just got to stop the run.

I think it's just that simple. You have to corral the running game. When you can stop their running game, they're human, right? When they can just run the ball down your throat running the option, you're going to be in some trouble. And right now, no one can stop the run game. They run it down people's throats at will. So when you can stop the run game, you've got a chance.

The Ravens defense is good. The Ravens are a very, very tough regular season team to play. Playoffs, different story. Regular season, challenge. Thoughts on how the Pittsburgh Steelers will do this year. Thoughts on how Big Ben will return. Love the pot. Appreciate it, Sam.

Yeah, I mean, he's 37. Does he turn 38 this fall? I've been saying it from the jump. I just struggle when you have, an injury like you tear your elbow so rothusberger turned 38 this year think about this he's 38 years old coming off a game where he could not make it through week one and miss the entire season and he had a major elbow injury as carson palmer told me when i had him on the podcast maybe a year ago uh well i guess less than a year in the fall is that as you get older

and it's one thing when you get hurt 27 28 hell he'll even like 32, the rehab sucks, but your body can, you know, overcome it. When you get into your late 30s, he's like, your body does not respond to the rehab like it did when you were in your late 20s. So to think that Rathesberger, who has been banged up the entire decade, only played a full season, I think four times in the 2010s, is going to be able to give them 16 games I'd put the over under like 10 or 11. If they got 10 or 11 games out of them, they'd have a chance.

So let me read you the games played starting in 2010. 12, 15, 13, 16, 16, 12, 14, 15, 16, 2. So I guess it was the second game last year. It's just a problem. And I think they're definitely talented enough. They have a big-time defense. They have a sweet pass rush. they got Mink of Fitzpatrick, who's a star.

They have weapons on offense. They got good wide receivers. They have good running back. Their offensive line solid. It's just, if you got to play with Mason Rudolph and Duck Hodges again, like, I'm sorry. I just can't take you seriously. I can't bet on Rathesburg at this time to give you a double-digit games.

Maybe he does, and if he does, they'll be fine. How much longer do you realistically see Edelman in the NFL on the Patriots? He is sneaky old and loss of Tom. should start to kill his passion to stick around. I would say 100% this is Julian Edelman's last year on the Patriots. Let me bring up his contract, but I think there were rumors that they might trade them during March, like you say, he's sneaky old, he's 34, he just turned 34, he's been a guy that's battled some injuries, he's taken cheap deals.

Now, depending on how he looks this season, is Julian Edelman ever going to get a big contract again. Probably not. I mean, Julian Edelman is a very, very, I thought in his prime was probably one of the best lot receivers in the league, a championship player, a winner, a guy you can depend on in huge games. Basically this year he's on the books.

He'll be on the team. Next year, they can get out of it for like $2.5 million. I would imagine they either cut them or trade them after this season. So 2020 will be Julian Edelman's last season on the Patriots. and like listen, he had a hell of a career. He'll play for someone else.

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I've actually met multiple people in the NFL that did that. You're not weird at all. I'm about to graduate college and I've tried different internships. Nothing has been calling my name. I'm wanting to see what's out there with scouting as a career since I use all my free time on it. any advice on what you need to do to get into the field. I know you did NFL scouting.

Any advice would be much appreciated. Like I said, I have the video on how to become a scout. If you're in college and you're doing the college recruiting, my recommendation would try to be link up with the college you're working with in the recruiting office. One problem is going to be, and texting with some of Coach Reed and Howie, there is not going to be a lot of, and I saw, I saw, I saw, Joe Clatt said this and he's right, not a lot of coaches are going to get fired this fall

because the money changed. Well, with the revenue changing, I don't think there are going to be a lot of internship opportunities in the scouting world this fall. If college football is conference only, they're probably not even going to let NFL scouts into their buildings. Scouts are going to have to do it all remotely. So I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer because I'm a positive PD.

But just being, I'm a realist, this is going to be a tough. year for the job perspective for the scouting community. Like there aren't going to be many opportunities. So you might have to do work for free, but I'm telling you, your college, if you go to school for a Division I program, help them out in recruiting, especially if you're doing it already just naturally on your free time, you can help them out. So utilize that to your benefit if they're in your backyard. And if they're a Division I program, you're going to have scouts, maybe not this year

because of Corona, but in future years come through. If you were the Titans, would you sign Clowny to a one-year deal? Personally, I'd rather take the money Clowny is asking for and take a flyer on Antonio Brown. Brabel seems like the perfect players coach that AB would vibe with. I was watching some of the American Century, the golf tournament with all the celebrities, and Mahomes, like, it hit a put for a par, and you would have thought he won the Masters. In his group was Travis Kelsey, and they're like, the other member of his group was Mike Vrable. Can you imagine if you're Mike Vrable playing?

with Mahomes and Kelsey after you just played him in the NFC championship game and you had a 10-0 lead. That probably was a fun group. I bet they were slamming some beers. Yeah, I'd take a one-year flyer on them. You already have the kid you drafted last year from Mississippi State. Roshan Evans is a good player.

You have a defensive head coach. Like he said, with Vrable having him there. The thing with Antonio Brown, like, I think a lot of teams will just, their reaction is going to be, no. We are not messing with that. And I think sometimes we forget because as time passes and we're in the middle of Corona and think how much stuff has happened in 2020. Like just the amount of things that have happened.

Kobe died. Like we wouldn't even talk about that anymore. And that, I would have imagined when Kobe died in the helicopter crash, I'd have been like, by far this is going to be the biggest moment of 2020. Feels like it's been forgotten. So you think about Antonio Brown, like you kind of forget how weird his year was. I can't forget it. From the feet to the Patriot stuff to throwing stuff at his wife when she was, or I guess ex-wife when she was running out the door, to me he's a no-go.

And I'm a talent first guy. I can't do it. And I would be shocked if John Robinson, who's a Patriot guy, and Brable is a Patriot guy, would mess with him. The clowny thing, I think they would gladly take him, but they got a price. And that's the smart Patriot guys. they don't try to be something they're not and I don't think John Robinson of Braebolt

that's what makes them kind of a good combo is they're very comfortable in their own skin the one thing they learn from Belichick though is hey Clowney we'll give you one year $12 million that's our price take it or leave it like we're not giving you 20 so if you want your 10 or 12 or whatever the hell they're offering them

that's the offer be patient if he takes it great if he doesn't but to me Antonio Brown they got a pretty good chemistry team they have a pretty good thing going they were in the NFC championship last year, or excuse me, the AFC championship last year. That's to me a non-starter.

Packer fan here. I'm wondering how their offense will look this season. Will they use two backs, Dylan and Jones, and a lot of play action run first? I feel like Rogers will be throwing the ball a lot less than we have seen in the past. What are your thoughts? Do you think it will be better for Rogers long term? Well, my

buddy's on the Bears after they had their draft and they took the big running back in the second round. said, like John, it's pretty clear what they're doing. And I hadn't really, I was like, God, Jordan Love. I was trying to figure out what they were doing. They want to slam the ball down your throat. Look at what they did last year.

I think when they played the 49ers, like week 10 or 11, their two running backs that combined for 20 touchdowns. I think Aaron Jones had 12, and the other guy had eight. And you get this running back, who is good. And I know Packer fans freaked out when they took this guy from Boston College. my buddy's in the league like them. They want to run the ball down your throat. Kyle Shanahan-style.

And like you said, hit you with play action. Here's the problem. The one thing the Niners have is, turns out Debo's a good player. They have George Kittle. And they can also throw the ball. Kyle Yuse check is like a hybrid player. So there are other wide receivers.

And Kendrick Bourne is solid. Packers have one wide receiver. Now he's a star wide receiver in Devante Adams. But part of like play action, you got to have a couple receivers. options. So you can run the ball down people's throat if you if you can do that. That's great, but you have to be able to throw the ball. Now part of the scheme they run, the Shanahan scheme, is play action opens guys up and you can scheme average wide receivers up. So their game plan

100% is to do the opposite of what Aaron Rogers hung his hat on forever, right? Carry the, give the ball to Aaron, let him throw it 40 to 50 times a game. Jordy, uh, Greg Jennings, Devante, Donald Driver, Randall Cobb, you name it. All the wide receivers over the years, and they've had a ton and just let him throw three or four touchdowns a game. That's not what LaFleur wants. He wants them to run it, control the clock, and not put the weight of the world on Aaron Roger's shoulders at 36 years old.

Now, does Aaron want that? I don't know. Is it going to be complicated? For sure. But if you're running the ball successfully and you can win 10, 11, 12, games. I know they won 13 last year. I think that's a little unrealistic, but if it goes well, I think they could win 10 or 11 again. Their philosophy is pretty clear. It's going to be a run-heavy play action, Shanahan offense team. Now, you just, if Devante gets hurt, we saw last year, it can

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