The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Best of The Week: REMEMBERING Jim Irsay, Diggs makes headlines on a boat, Myles Garrett NOT at OTA

Episode Date: May 31, 2025

This week on the podcast John talks about the passing of Colts owner Jim Irsay, he reacted to the video of Stefon Diggs on a boat with some pink stuff, and talked about Myles Garrett not being at OTA's. All that and more! Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest.  #Volume #Herd  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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John Middlecob, 3 and Out podcast. Doing a little best up. And short week because of Memorial Day. So I did want to hit on a couple things. Jim Ursay. He passed away last week. And, you know, he's been, if you're my age, right, if you've been watching football the last 25, 30 years, once paid Manning got drafted the Colts, Jim Ursay became a pretty major figure in the league. Obviously, during the Twitter age, he definitely did. So some thoughts on that. Miles Garrett, good example,

why money does not buy happiness. He told the Browns, I want out. So I don't. I don't. Don't blame him for skipping practice, even if it is voluntary. When you pay a guy $150 million, you think he'd show up just for a couple days and get a little sweated. And Stefan Dix was making some headlines with his boat incident with the pink powder. It's not even the craziest boat incident of the last 10 years, let alone the last 20. A lot of NFL players have found themselves on boats and it didn't turn out well. We'll dive into some of the crazier boat situations over the years in the National Football League.

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But I can't speak to him as an individual. I never met the guy. But I do think he represented a group of people that just aren't going to be around very soon in the near future. And you could argue they're not really around anymore. We have a couple. Really, we just have one big personality left. And whenever Jerry goes, there is going to be an identity in the

NFL that I'm just going to be missing. Now, maybe it won't matter because the league is so popular, but you guys know where I stand. When it comes to professional sports, first and foremost, it's an entertainment product, and it's become reality television. And for most of my life, especially when I was growing up, owners were massive characters in the reality show that was pro sports. And, you know, if you grew up Eddie de Bartolo, Al Davis. I'd say the biggest one of my lifetime was George Steinbrenner owning the Yankees. And these guys were just massive personalities. They were as famous as the coach, as the GM. Sometimes they were the GM and as equals to the players. And they let you be known. They basically did what Jerry Jones does. Gives an opinion on anything at all times, not afraid.

zero F's given 24-7-365. But in 2025, with the evaluations of these teams, think about some of the big personalities we have in the NFL now. You don't really hear from them. It's like Brown's doing crazy shit with Jimmy Haslam. I never hear him talk. I never hear him say a peep. I mean, honestly, if I had to guess how many times

he addresses the media year, I'd say it's under three. David Tepper, who has led a pretty crazy first several years as the owner of the Panthers. Firing people left and right. Crazy articles coming out about them all the time. If I want to hear David Tepper talk, I am more likely to watch him on CNBC than I am to see him do a sit down with like Adam Schaefter.

Like those days are done. These guys don't speak. You know why? Because there's too much online. It doesn't even behoove them to say a peep. Jerry Jones is a complete outlier. And to me, Jim Ursay, and Pat McAfee gave a good,

kind of a good talk on Friday about the impact that Erce had on him and how when Pack first got on Twitter, how Erse was so intrigued and he got on. And it's just like, we don't really get that anymore. And that makes me sad. Also, some reading, I didn't know that much about him, that he became the general manager of the team at 24 years old. There really was something special about pro sports in like the 70s and the 80s. It was. nowhere near the business vehicle that it was now. Can you imagine if in the NFL an owner just made his son the GM at 24 years old? Even if behind the scenes, some of this stuff is kind of going on.

Kids have a lot of pull. Kids impact their father and tell them who to draft. You know, the kid has a huge influence on the coach and the GM. I'm sure it happens. You would be naive to think it doesn't. But none of these owners are just be like, yeah, my son is going to be the GM of the team. And that's what happened with Jim Ursa in the early 80s. And that there was just something, I don't know, kind of chaotic, but also very, very interesting.

Now, luckily, I think because we have so many young GMs and the money so big that we get way more transactions and crazy trades that has kind of been an additive to the sport. but the day and age of Al Davis getting in front of the media with an overhead projector, reading him the letter that he sent Lane Kiffin, why he fired him for cause, are just done. Like, we don't get that anymore. And I think Jim Ursay was kind of viewed as a crazy character. Obviously, he did a lot of good things behind the scenes in terms of giving back, and that's been well documented over the last four or five years. But when you just said the words Jim Ursay to me, I thought like big personality.

And a guy who, you know, when he really had his fastball, didn't give a shit and just wasn't afraid to just say what was on his mind, right or wrong. And you don't have to agree with everything that he did over the years when it came to his football team if you're a Colts fan. But at least you appreciate it like he wasn't scared. It didn't ever feel like he was really hiding. Maybe it felt like that over the last couple years as he got, I would say, old fast. but I think we just miss these type guys that were part of a league. And I read a good article.

Like this guy came up with his dad in a league that does not parallel what we are going through right now with salary cap of almost $300 million with these crazy television deals. Like these owners did not have close to the money and definitely not the revenue streams back in the day. And that led to them, I think, not really. give it a shit. And I'm going to miss that. I'm a sucker for that. Like Jerry Jones, who knows how much longer we have of him? Now, you could argue he's a little overkill because he talks so much, but at least he's willing to say some shit, you know, because most of these owners do not say a peep, no matter how crazy the stuff they do. So, you know, I'll think of Jim Mersey.

Listen, when Peyton Manning went there, I became a big Colts fan. I rooted for them. I I really wanted them to beat the Patriots when I was in high school and in college, and they never could till finally that game in 06. He does have to get credit because for a guy that became the GM, hired Bill Pollient, who's a Hall of Fame GM, who obviously went on to draft Peyton Manning and build the team that was in the 2000s, easily, I would say, the second best team of that decade. And if it wasn't for Belichick and Brady, who knows maybe they have three or four rings,

during that time. But, yeah, RIP to Jim Ursay. There was a boat incident with Stefan Diggs, Cardi B, and some, I think as the kids say it, thoughts, tots, influencers, strippers, hookers, a lot of chicks on a boat that included some drugs. Now, I'm not the moral police here. I don't care what you do for fun.

Personally, not a huge job. upper guy. I'm not a drug guy in general. I don't know. I like going to bed. Much more of like a day hangout party guy, maybe some cocktails by a pool, lake, golf course than I am trying to stay up all night. So can't totally relate to that. But understand it. Lived long enough in this world to know some people like that stuff. So I also not naive enough to think that there are people in the NFL, maybe guys that own the team that don't dabble in some booger I did not know what a pink powder was when Stefan Diggs handed it. We've seen a lot of different people on the internet, kind of break it down,

did a little mixture of a party cocktail for your nostrils. Now, I think sometimes when you get on a boat as an NFL player, things have not gone well historically. And on a serious note, I've talked a lot about, you know, how difficult it is. And I've used Ben Johnson as an example, because he was an elite coordinator. I mean, he's best coordinator in the league for the last couple years.

But when something like this happened, if it did happen with the Lions, it was on the general manager and Dan Campbell to handle it. It's not his problem. When Jameson Williams had an issue with a gun and pulled over with a brother, that's Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes' problem.

It's not Ben Johnson's problem. So when this happens for Mike Vrable, it's like, he's been a head coach in the NFL for a long time. there is no chance that he hasn't had drug issues with players before. He knows how to handle it. Whether he handles it correctly or not, time will tell.

You could argue why you even signed him in the first place, but he has experience with this exact situation. So I think when you look at this boat situation for the Patriots, it's kind of funny, but also like, you know, when you get a player like this who's dating Cardi B, If I told you right now that Cardi B was just dating some other entertainer, actor, rapper, whatever, and was on a boat with a ton of other stripper-looking chicks and a dude, and they were just partying all day, would you imagine drugs would be involved?

I think the answer would be yes. So really just because it's digs and not someone that fits some other line of work, it's pretty jarring to see if you are Mike Frable and the Patriots brass and if you're digs and his agent it's like bro let's keep our head

on a swivel here for the cameras but we have some recent memory or some recent events obviously the Odell Beckham situation because if you're on a boat doing stupid shit

in the middle of May or the late May who really cares one he has a torn ACL he couldn't even practice if he wanted to he's not even going to be ready week one Odo Becum

and crew went to a boat. I had forgotten the exact date. I was like, did they have a buy week? I'm like, no, that was Tony Romo. When he went with Jason Whitten to Cancun, which honestly isn't even that crazy. He's definitely not the first and won't be the last player to go hang out for a couple days

as the number one seed during the buy. Weird look, I guess, if you're the starting quarterback who's never had much success in the playoffs, you're dating someone really famous as he was, Jessica Simpson. But Odo Beckham, because the season used to end right around New Year's because it wasn't 17 games. It was only 16. So either the 31st, the 1st, the 30th, right around there.

So the New York Giants flew down to Miami on Monday of a playoff week. And they proceeded, I'm pretty sure, to get blown out like 40 to 10. They got destroyed. And he got destroyed as well. But you can even argue, is that that crazy? It's like these guys all five private. I don't know how long the private jet is from New York. York to Miami, a couple hours, two, three, three and a half, two, whatever, but not that,

not that wild. One event that gets lost in translation that has never talked about anymore is the love boat. And sometimes I just miss pre-social media events because I feel like they were actually way crazier than anything that could happen now because of a camera. Like, if I was to defend Stefan Diggs, you would have to be pretty naive to think he's the only guy in the NFL in the offseason that is dabbling in some drugs, you know? Anti-drugs here, but I'm also not dumb enough to think that some people are having a good time with some things they probably shouldn't be and that aren't the healthiest thing for them and can result in problems.

But hell, young people, especially with money, tends to be a rich guy drug. That's what cocaine is. And the love boat with the Minnesota Vikings in 2005 is something we just do not talk about enough. Because the franchise, it was right post Randy Moss, Dante Cole Pepper was very famous quarterback. Fred Smoot, pretty sure it was one of the better corners in the league. Bryant McKinney was a star left tackle,

and they had just a solid team. And they chartered a boat with other people. So it was a bunch of players, a bunch of hos, and just some random people. And I had to Google the event because they got in big trouble. And I was like, what exactly happened on the love boat? And then I read this article that said, Eyewitness reports. Starting offensive lineman, Bryant McKinney, is charged with giving and receiving.

He's a giver. Oral sex from an unidentified woman. Fred Smoot, who is believed to have chartered the boat. with another player was charged with using a sex toy on not one, but two, unclothed women. The witnesses say all the acts happened in view of the other passengers. These cats were just having a massive orgy pre, I mean, 2005, I'm not even sure that we had cameras on cell phones. This thing was like a vivid shoot in the Hollywood Hills, just out in the lake in Minnesota.

all these guys got in big trouble. This also was during the season. So while the Step on Dick situation, funny, I do think to go party on a boat, playoff game, then get your ass kicked, and have an orgy mid-season on a boat, actually is a little bit crazier. So just wanted to put a little context into boat gate.

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Miles Garrett told him, I don't want to be there. So when I see the story that he's in Japan with his girlfriend, at the anime awards, and there was a story after they paid him that internally they wanted him to step up. He'd been showing up late. They think he could be a much better leader. He doesn't want to play for your franchise. And just because you gave him a lot of money is not going to change that feeling internally for the guy.

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