The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Best of The Week: Scottie wins the PGA Championship, Eagles extend Sirianni, Tush Push SURVIVES.

Episode Date: May 25, 2025

This week on the podcast John reacted to world no.1 Scottie Scheffler's dominant performance at the PGA Championship at Quail Hollow, the Eagles extending Nick Sirianni, and the big news out of the NF...L owners meetings that saw the league vote to keep the "Tush Push". All that and more! Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest.  #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:11 The volume. What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? Hopefully everyone is doing well out there in the real world. And hopefully you're having a good Memorial Day weekend. We thought we'd put together a little best of for the weekend while, you know, we're probably having a few cocktails, enjoying some sun, cruising around with the fam, hanging out. So here's the deal. We put together a little something, something, starting with Scottie Shepler, who won his third major, and now has a chance to really head toward legendary status and put the pedal to the medal. But gets over the edge, dominates guys like John Rom and Bryson Deschambeau.
Starting point is 00:03:06 The Philadelphia Eagles had a lot going on last week, but it started with them extending Nick Siriani, so he will be the coach for the foreseeable future. And to top on that, the tush push, which I would say has been a defining play for Siriani in his tenure with Jalen survived. So we discussed that as well. Jason Kelsey coming out of the bullpen to help talk a lot of owners that were on the fence to the Eagle side, and that play can still rock and roll. So let's dive into some football.
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Starting point is 00:04:41 over the winter break when he split open his hand and got glass shards in there. He claims making raviolis. Listen, we've all had some mishaps having a few cocktails, regardless how it happened. His season got off to a slow start.
Starting point is 00:04:56 He had a tiger-like season last year winning what felt like every freaking tournament. He won the Masters. He won the FedEx. He won like $60 million. And it was like, this guy's a monster. And then this year happens and he doesn't win the Masters.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And it's like, you know, Scottie, like, Right now at this point in time in his career, the money, the wins, the, I mean, he's just such a heavy favorite in every tournament he plays in now, you know, minus four or plus 400 or plus 300. He's like a four to three to one. I mean, good players typically as someone that's been gambling on golf now for, I don't know, half a decade, you know, high, high end guys are like 11 to 1, 12 to 1, 14 to 1. And Scotty is routinely like 4 to 1. And honestly, it doesn't feel that crazy. Your boy might have threw a little.
Starting point is 00:05:41 on him. Why? Just because he's a great player. And then all of a sudden in the middle of these tournaments, he'll be like minus 450. Like this guy's a fucking monster. I don't know what it looked like in the Tiger era because, you know, the draft kings of the world did not exist. But I would imagine there were a lot of similarities. When this guy gets on and he won the tournament Saturday night or Saturday afternoon, that's when the tournament was won. And I would say, listen, Scotty Sheffler has won a lot. He's won multiple green jackets. That stretch that he had. on Saturday afternoon, hole 14 to close it out till 18, you know, birdying four of his last five holes and just knocking it stiff after stiff.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It's like, she had to be, especially relative to the field, as the entire field has fallen apart, had to be one of the greatest five, six whole stretches of his career. And today, what feels good about validating this if you're Scottie Shepler is like, there were some questions. Like, he plays really well at the Masters. He's won all these tournaments. Like, are you going to start knocking off some of these other majors?
Starting point is 00:06:40 he's like, yes, I am. We'll start with here at Quail Hollow. You know that course that everyone says that Rory wins over and over, or that course that your boy thought that Bryce and Deschambeau was going to demolish? I'm not just going to win that. I'm going to win that by five. And I'm also going to bogey 18, where I easily could have won by six. No one was even close to me.
Starting point is 00:07:01 Remember a couple weeks ago when I won by like 10 and I absolutely blew up the field and you're like, well, you're playing nobody's. How about we go to a major, best field in goal? Golf min, say the PGA Championship, and I beat the living piss at everyone in sight. And that's what he just did. And listen, I'm not going to compare anyone ever to Tiger Woods, but Scotty is a monster. I mean, he is so freaking good at golf. It's stupid.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And here's the thing. Over the last five years at majors, this guy is a bright lights player, starting in 2021. He was T-18, T-8. T7, T8, and all the majors. Then he started winning in 22. He won the Masters, he missed the cut at the PGA, but then he finished second at the U.S. Open T-21.
Starting point is 00:07:50 And these last couple years, it's like, it's not even a fair fight. T-10, T-2, third, T-23, first T-8, T-41, T-7, fourth, first, and he's going to be the heavy, heavy favorite at Oakmont. And his game, like, no one will ever be Tiger Woods.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I've said it all the time. his name is unique, right? Just his story, his dad Earl, like the whole thing. I mean, started from a young age, the dominance. But what this guy's doing right now, and I felt pretty confident about this, like is he going to win 15 majors like Tiger? Of course not. I think that would be crazy to even put out there.
Starting point is 00:08:28 But is this guy more likely to win eight or nine than four or five? I would say yes. Because the only thing that could remotely slow him down was some glass shards in a hand. Because when you watch them against Bryson, against Rom, against whoever, there's a clear gap. And Rory, who will get into in a minute, like, what the hell was that? Now, you could argue that Rory winning the Masters, playing with a little house money, not as much pressure on this tournament. I would tend to agree.
Starting point is 00:08:56 But when you're having one of the best seasons of your career, you've already won three times. You get the monkey off your back with the Masters. This is a course in which you've won at multiple times. You would think that he would show up, but he's nowhere to be found. Bryson is an incredible talent. I mean, to me, the craziest part about Bryson is he is blowing it 30, 40 yards by Scottie Sheffler. His short game is unreal.
Starting point is 00:09:20 I mean, he had a couple flop shots today around the green as someone that had him to finish in the top five. Like, I was kind of on tilt. But he had a couple wedges around the green that were world class. And his putting is excellent. But to me, like, you watch Scotty Sheffler, I could give him a seven iron. And I could go, Scotty hit this 200 yards. He could hit it 200 yards.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I could say Scotty, hit like a buttercut and hit it 158 yards. And he could hit it around that vicinity. Meanwhile, Bryson's 195 yards, he's hitting 9 iron. Like, I'm not here to nitpick Bryson's operation. It clearly works. And he's an elite player. But like the gap between Scotty and Bryson when it just comes to hitting irons, like I heard I was going to pick up dinner last night and I was listening to the no laying up.
Starting point is 00:10:06 they do like a reaction show after every major day. And DJ Pye, one of their guys, was saying like, it can't be easy to play when you're hitting a nine iron or 195 yards. Like, what are you hitting a six iron one? Like, what's the point of some of these longer clubs? It's not like you're hitting a five iron, 290 yards. So your distances are all wacky.
Starting point is 00:10:30 But like your wedges, like what are you doing from like 140, 150, 170? And a couple times a day you're watching Bryce. he's not even close. And that's where Scotty will eat you alive. It's like give him 160. That's where he's very, very comfortable with. And you're watching Bryson, who honestly should have been right there, but his iron play is just kind of wacky.
Starting point is 00:10:51 I mean, listen, I'm not one to say like he shouldn't be playing the same length irons. But like whatever Scotty is able to do with like a seven iron, a nine iron in his hand, it feels like Bryson's playing like Kyle Berkshire on Instagram. It's like, what are we doing here? And listen, John Rom, who to me is like a legit high-end player when he's on like today, melted at the end, but a lot like Scotty, like has a bunch of different shots in the bag. And at one point in time today, Scotty is just leaking oil, just your classic playing like shit. He's just playing really bad.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Not because the moment's too big, not because he's overwhelmed, not because he's never won a big tournament, not because there's pressure, he's just not on. Something was just off. And then you look up, he finishes the night. hole, or basically he's on 10, he's 9 under. John Rom is also 9 under with a birdie putt on 12 from like 10 feet. John Rom misses this. Scotty then birdies 10 and then it flips and then Scottie never looks back. And once Scottie got that little buffer, then Rom get toward whatever they call it, the green mile and just kind of imploded. And then it ended up like John Rom's not even on like the
Starting point is 00:12:00 leaderboard you see on TV and Bryson's right there. Now Bryson technically wasn't that. close but there were a couple moments today and even yesterday it's like i don't i don't really know what's going on like i get it he's got these weird irons but uh you know to me scottie's a much more complete player for a guy that's not even hitting it and i heard a couple people say like if you followed that group with zander and rory and scotty on thursday and friday that those guys are blowing it by scotty like 20 yards 25 yards and listen if you play with another individual that's longer than you, that's not that weird. It is kind of weird when you look at Scottie.
Starting point is 00:12:40 He's a big-ass dude. Xander's much smaller and he hits it way farther than him. But like when you're splitting fairways and you're knocking it on greens and you're making puts, like it doesn't really matter. And that's the one thing with golf. Obviously distance is very, very important. Bryson's kind of hacked the system. But you still got to get the ball in the hole.
Starting point is 00:12:57 And that to me is a skill that like even when Scottie started to unravel today, I never thought like this is implosion coming. It never crossed my mind he was going to shoot 76. Now I did think like if John Rom starts birdie in three or four holes, maybe they just both end up like 10 or 11 under and we have a playoff. But the one thing that Scotty has in the back, and I would say this is the similarity with Tiger and what Rory definitely does not have in common.
Starting point is 00:13:25 It's hard to fathom him just, if he has a shitty front nine, him backing that up with a bad back nine. in a tournament like this, where when we watch Rory at the Masters, you're like, he could blow this. Like, it didn't cross my mind that Scotty was going to blow it. Now, he opened the door and let someone in, but you're like, he's got a couple of par fives, like, you know, if this was football, he'll make some place. And what did he do? He made some place. And then obviously the course is difficult. You know, Rom had to get aggressive and he just kind of melted down. And Bryson, that's the thing with Bryson.
Starting point is 00:14:00 it's like he's been off, I thought, in the Masters, and definitely this week with his iron play, with his approach game. But his wedges are, I mean, he had a couple, he had a flop shot today on 14, that drivable par four, where he hits it right of the bunker. And it's way above on the mound. I can't even imagine how difficult that shot is. And he knocked it like three or four feet.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And it's like, Bryson, you have incredible touch around the Greens. You're obviously an elite putter now. And I think most would consider you, especially if Rory, is going to drive the ball like he did this week, you're the best driver in the world. What is going on with this iron situation? And listen, Scotty took advantage of it and he wins his third major. And all signs point to him now. Oakmont, which many consider like the hardest golf course in the world, especially when you factor in major conditions. And if I just tell you out loud, they're going to play the hardest golf course in the world.
Starting point is 00:14:59 who are you going to like, you would immediately say Scotty Sheffler. Now, I don't know if he's going to win the U.S. Open by five or six shots, but I think at this point in time, given the way he's played now in his last two events, and what he did over the course of the last two days,
Starting point is 00:15:16 it would be stunning if he doesn't win this U.S. Open. And if he wins the U.S. Open, listen, the British is weird, whether you never know. It does feel like he's so good that he will inevitably win one. You just kind of, with a guy who knows.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I do feel pretty confident at this point in time. You see some of these guys like, you know, Spee's 1-4, Kepka's 1-5, Rory's 1-5, like it feels like Scott he's going to fly right by him. And the only thing that can slow him down is an injury. Because he's got Ted Scott, who's Bubba Watson's old caddy. Their cohesion, like it's like the equivalent of like Belichick and Brady. It's like they were just made for each other. It's perfect.
Starting point is 00:15:57 and what a fucking clinic. And honestly, what he did on Saturday afternoon, if you tell me like, what's been Scotty Sheffler's coolest, like hour that you remember watching him play golf, it would be Saturday afternoon at Quail Hollow in the PGA championship. Now, he has, he's only 28 years old,
Starting point is 00:16:16 he's got a lot of golf left. But like, so far in his career, and listen, he's won the masters multiple times. But it does feel like that stretch on Saturday afternoon was the equivalent of like a drag race. race and he's in like a legit drag racing car and you're in like a pinto and he flew by everybody and it gave him that buffer today where when he is just all over the map he starts with a boge this week uh on one he's hitting the ball all over the place off the tee you're like god what what is
Starting point is 00:16:46 going on here it gave him a little breathing room and to me if he doesn't have that breathing room if he just instead of shooting 65 he shoots 69 and he only has a one shot leader he's tied all of a sudden he's three back, I think that pressure, it just would have been a different situation, right, given where he would have stood on the leaderboard. But he couldn't have been playing any shittier. Rahm had made multiple birdies. We're tied.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And he's ahead of me, so I still got the par fives. It was just a different mindset. So I do believe, no matter what anyone says, that this tournament was won on Saturday, but that's what Scottie Sheffler does. When everyone else was not playing well because the course was playing outrageously hard, I mean, this is a place that a lot of times, like, you watch Augusta.
Starting point is 00:17:30 You're like, I understand it's hard. I would love to play there. You watch Pinehurst. You're like, listen, I want to play that golf course. Even last week, you're watching Philly Cricket Club. You're like, I would love to tee it up there. Anytime they're playing overseas, you're like, this St. Andrews, you name it, right? I would love to do this, as long as it's not too cold and too wet.
Starting point is 00:17:52 This is one of those rare courses that they play in a big event where you go. I got no interest. Does not look fun. I mean, does not look like an enjoyable round of golf. Too long, too much rough. The greens are way too hard. It just looks like miserable golf. And when I tell you, it's like miserably hard, difficult conditions, firm greens.
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Starting point is 00:22:38 Now granted, they're playing more games now they did back then. But Seriani's got more wins, and obviously the difference in their resumes is one guy has Super Bowl and the other guy does not. And I had to spend a lot of time thinking about this. And listen, clearly the Eagles players like the guy and the team plays really, really. hard for him. But once I saw this headline come out, now granted, when the season ended, it was clear like he was in line for an extension. What were they going to do? Like let him walk. Of course, you win a Super Bowl. He was going to get some money. Sounds like a multi-year deal. It's not like they're making him, you know, the coach for life. This isn't like, doesn't quite
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Starting point is 00:23:54 the NFC championship, the NFC championship, and they just start winning. Then he goes to Kansas City, who had the number one overall pick. Obviously, what he's done there speaks for itself. Peyton Manning is a good example. He could have gone anywhere. Peyton Manning could have played for me. He could have played for you. He could have played for our mothers.
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Starting point is 00:24:33 because that's typically what happened sometimes with the later-round picks. They're just kind of afterthoughts. Instead, he got to go to Bill Belichick, and it changed his life. Hell, we just saw it with Brock Purdy. There's a big difference if you're Brock Purdy that getting drafted to a team that either has an established quarterback or a chaotic situation, than going to Kyle Shanahan.
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Starting point is 00:25:48 And yeah, does Siriani benefit from working for an owner that basically has unlimited pocketbooks when it comes to investing in his football team? To working for and with a general manager that I would say is widely considered as the best GM, smartest GM in the National Football League? Did he benefit from going to a team that already had guys like Jason Kelsey, Brandon Graham, Fletcher Cox, Lane Johnson on the roster? Of course he did. But you could say the same thing for Jim Harbaugh. The team was not winning when he got to San Francisco. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:26:27 Patrick Willis, Joe Staley, Frank Gore, Vernon Davis. They were already on the team. They just needed some direction. But he did not turn guys. like me and you into players. And I think Siriani, like the majority of coaches, needed help.
Starting point is 00:26:46 And if you put him in the right situation, he can succeed. Look at Mike Tomlin once upon a time when he's hired out of nowhere in the mid-2000s, however old he was, 33, 34 years old. You think he benefited going to, you could argue, the most
Starting point is 00:27:02 stable organization in like the history of American sports? Look at John Harbaugh when he got hired in the mid-2000s by the Baltimore Ravens. Guess what he got to inherit? I don't know, Ozzie Newsom, who's a Hall of Fame player and should be a Hall of Fame General Manager. He also got guys like Ed Reed, Helodinada, and Ray Freaking Lewis were already on the roster
Starting point is 00:27:28 and established elite players. That helps. Take the Jags job. See how that goes. Most people fail. So when I look at Nick Siriani, where I got it wrong is, I think I overthought it. He's going to a place now that is equipped. You're going to win when you go there.
Starting point is 00:27:47 And if you don't have a massive ego and refuse to listen to anyone and think that you've invented football like a coach a couple times ago with the Eagles, you're going to have success. I understand Doug Peterson got run out of town. He also won a fucking Super Bowl. So seeing Nick Siriani, win a Super Bowl, have a team that's really good. Like, good spot. Most coaches would die to coach there. Why? Because the infrastructure there is pretty special.
Starting point is 00:28:15 You know, look at Kyle Shanahan that up until last year, most considered one of the best coaches in the NFL. It was not going well at all through a couple years in San Francisco. And then Belichick got on the horn and said, Kyle, we will trade you Jimmy Garoppolo. You interested? Kyle said, what do you mean?
Starting point is 00:28:37 He's like, you got 30 minutes, second round pick. Click. Change the course of the 49ers. Hell, even the next year, then he tears his ACL, which led to Nick Bosa, meaning they had the number two overall pick. It was not all sunshine and rainbows. Because that was a place where you needed some help,
Starting point is 00:28:55 you needed some luck, because there was no infrastructure. It was a joke. And the Eagles clearly or not. and Nick Siriani has benefited from that, but obviously he brings some of the table. He knows what he's doing. His ability to work with other coaches,
Starting point is 00:29:09 he's not the coordinator. He's just the motivator. And we give a lot of credit to Mike Tomlin who never loses. Or John Harbaugh or Jim Harbaugh. Siriani's in that world, and he's doing a good job. And you go out, and I get the chiefs had some offensive line issues, but you beat the living, you know what out of them in the playoffs. You know, you deserve your flowers,
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Starting point is 00:31:29 We created our own podcast called, Oh. Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
Starting point is 00:31:41 But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band. Before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:02 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
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Starting point is 00:34:53 And I'm typically on, I would say polarizing topics, not usually a fence sitter, but I was unbothered by the play, but also understood if it disappeared tomorrow, I wouldn't be faced. Completely understood why the Eagles would want it, and I understood the old school football guys like Mike Vrable going, what are we actually talking about? This is a football play,
Starting point is 00:35:15 and they have a player who is better at this than anyone else. If you have a quarterback who can squat 650 pounds, you would do the same thing. We saw Josh Allen, one of the strongest, most athletic players in the NFL, and an inability to gain half a yard. And part of it was because unlike Jalen to go low, he had to go high. And so I was, I'm cool with this, and I do understand the detractors.
Starting point is 00:35:40 I get the NFL. I don't get all caught up like Jeffrey Lurie. It's a healthy play. Jason Kelsey, who has kind of gone viral. There was a big ESPN.com article about an impassioned plea, how him and Jerry Jones were watching film. And Jerry's like, listen, I don't want to give the Eagles an advantage, but makes a good point. So, you know, the Jeffrey Lurie and Howie break out the big guns bringing Kelsey to talk about this place.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And if we could run this 60 times a game, I'd still be playing in the NFL. And listen, the reason this works for the Eagles is they have a dominant offensive line, but most importantly, the quarterback. If the quarterback was someone else, it would not be as effective. so Jared Gough or Brock Purdy or Josh Allen or just go around the league Baker Mayfield the advantage is the strength of Jalen and like Vrable was saying like what stops us from doing this and that like defending the Eagles and it's like yeah I don't care
Starting point is 00:36:43 and some of the comments to come out you know Jeffrey Lurie I guess gave like a long diatribe about the health of this play and if you take this play out it'll actually make guys less safe, even for your teams. And I guess dropped a line about a young child's wet dream with how great this play is. And then Troy Vincent, you know, went full ESPN. It was like, that's offensive to the women in here. It's like, Troy, calm down, buddy.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Any person in this room offended by using the words wet dream, like, give me a break. This is this multi-billion dollar business. No one's offended by that. Classic Jeffrey Lurie line. But ultimately, this play survived. and I think we're a year away. If the Eagles dominate again and they win, if the Eagles were winning six, seven games,
Starting point is 00:37:33 no one would care. This would not be a talking point. But they've been to two of the last three Super Bowls and they just beat the shit out of the Chiefs. And if they do it again, if they go back to back and beat the crap at everybody, and this play is obviously a huge part of their arsenal because when they get down to the goal line,
Starting point is 00:37:50 they are scoring a touchdown. When they get in a short-yarded situation, they are moving the chains. It's basically automatic, and it will go away. But as of right now, they get to use it another year. And listen, the Eagles are obviously going to be one of the heavy favorites to win the Super Bowl and be a dominant team and be a playoff team and probably win the division. So this story is not going to go away. But the Eagles and utilizing Jason Kelsey, which Jed York tweeted about, like, I owe the guy a beer.
Starting point is 00:38:21 You know, listen, there are certain guys that just can own a room. and their passion, their ability to connect, and they're just likable. Like certain human beings just resonate with other people because they are just likable people. And Jason has always been one of those guys. Like he could go into a room with anybody. I mean, it's honestly the power of that individual. That's why he and his brother created a podcast with like two years later, it's worth
Starting point is 00:38:47 $100 million. You could put Jason in a room, you know, at some dive bar in some blue collar town with a bunch of dudes making $30,000 a year, and he would get along with them perfectly. You can put them in a room with a bunch of guys that are worth 10 and 11 figures and have teams worth $5 to $10 billion
Starting point is 00:39:06 and they can have normal conversations with them. It's just a skill that man possesses. It's why, you know, typically the guys that communicate in sports, whether it's a point guard, whether it's a quarterback, obviously the center, like they usually can communicate well with a lot of
Starting point is 00:39:22 different people. And Kelsey's ability to go in that room, like the Eagles aren't dumb, right? They're a pretty smart organization. I don't think, I mean, best case scenario, it went as well as it did bringing him in because let's face it, like, and I don't blame it. We're all selfish. I say it all the time. People, and one thing I've talked to Maria a lot about since we've been dating is like
Starting point is 00:39:44 sometimes she gets really caught up when, you know, things in business don't go her way. It's like, people are selfish. So when you go into the mindset, not trying to fuck the other. person, but just realize, like, at the end of the day, they will make a decision with themselves, their family first. That's never going to change, and it's never really changed. And I think the Eagles were selfish on this. They don't want to lose the play.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I don't blame them. And I bet there were a lot of people in the room who are kind of like, whatever, like, I keep it great like me. And bringing Jason Kelsey in, clearly, I think Florio reported on it that swung several teams like the Browns, the Lions, like, it's a big deal. I mean, 22 to 10, pretty close. I mean, you're just two votes away from this thing going by-bye. So I do feel pretty confident, though, if the Eagles win again, honestly, they don't even need to win the Super Bowl. If they just have a 12 or 13 win season and they're deep in the playoffs, this conversation is not going to stop.
Starting point is 00:40:44 And the Packers admitted, like, the NFL used them as a guinea pick. The Packers did not care. Again, the Packers, like most of us, like, whatever. Like, yeah, the, play's kind of boring. We know the outcome. But like, it's their advantage. The NFL utilized them to be at the forefront of like, get rid of this thing. And people within the Packers like, yeah, wasn't that big a deal to us. Like, we actually kind of respect it. So the NFL will do that again next year because if this play is the conversation about it,
Starting point is 00:41:15 you could argue, has only gotten bigger. So congrats to Eagles fans. You got a pitch that you can continue to use. And it's very, very effective. So I would expect Jalen Hertz and those guys to get some extra touchdowns because of this play, because that's what they always do. The Volume. Hey, guys, it's us and the Jonas Brothers.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:41:51 We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. but, you know, tired and sick, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
Starting point is 00:42:11 not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Joey Dardano. And on my new podcast, Hope from a Hypocrite, I'll be changing lives, helping people in need with thoughtful solutions.
Starting point is 00:42:47 Sike, I'm a comedian. I'm not qualified to give good advice. Join me and my comedian friends as we riff, rant, recommend some of the most legally dubious advice known to me. This is Help from a Hypocrite, the worst advice from the dumbest people you know. Listen to Help from a Hypocrite Wednesdays on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
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