The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Best of - What are the Falcons doing, Scottie Scheffler and his greatness, Bears need to win

Episode Date: May 4, 2024

This week John continued to react to the Falcons drafting Michael Penix Jr. and what that pick means for the future of Kirk Cousins (4:21), he questioned why people are programmed to root for the underdog but when it comes to Scottie Scheffler people want to see him continue to win (22:42), and finally how drafting Caleb Willams has put the Bears in a win now mode (33:20). #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Last minute tickets, lowest prices, guaranteed. Let's talk some sports. The Atlanta Falcons. They really are the talk of the league. I texted with countless teams that were in the playoffs. All of them. all of them brought up this situation because it's baffling

and I think the one thing as a general manager that's a lot different obviously the two most important non-players in your organization there's the owner who signs the check clearly he's important but ideally he just kind of stays out of the way and gives you whatever you need

are the coach and the GM and like a lot of businesses the incentives for the two are not always the same obviously winning is the most important thing. The GM and the coach, they want to win. Week 1, week 8, in the playoffs, right? That's the clear goal of the organization to win.

But the coach is consumed with week 1 in the season. He is not thinking big picture. For the most part, you have some of these tenured coaches, like an Andy Reid, like a John Harbaugh. definitely thinks a little big picture, but they are completely judged on the immediacy of the season, success or failure.

The GM's job is to balance the present and the future. No different than like a CEO in the private sector, right? Jamie Diamond is trying to have successful quarters. He's also worried about the health of J.P. Morgan over the next five.

years. He's not just always living in the present. And I think you go around, Tim Cook, Elon Musk, you name it. Tesla's having a good couple days. And I think as a GM planning, strategic planning is something that

separates the good from the bad at that position. And as a GM, like the draft for coaches, for a lot of coaches, including guys that missed the playoffs, really gets going early. February. The coaching staff gets involved typically at the combine or after. I mean, they go to the

senior bowl. They haven't watched Seoul. The scouting staff, starting with the GM, because he's the guy at the highest, you know, part of the hierarchy, starts watching these players in like a week. They start watching the prospects for next year's draft in a week. And the reality is when they've scouted these guys that they just drafted, they were keeping an eye on a lot of the top players for next year. You're always thinking big picture. Why did Howie trade this year to get a third, a fourth, and a fifth extra for next year? He said it in his press conference, because next year's draft is going to be a lot deeper because a lot of guys went back to school. I had a scout tell me, whenever this gets to the draft grades, everyone freaking out, like the line.

are getting crushed. And he's like, yeah, this was the type draft where you take an offensive lineman from British Columbia or wherever the hell he's from in Canada in the fourth round. Not that weird. This was that type draft.

So if you are Terry Fontenow, the GM for the Atlanta Falcons, you have been scouting this crop of players since last May. You have been really dialed in on them since the season. You have a very, very good feel for, especially the top of the draft. Later in the draft gets weird.

But the top 50 players, the ebb and flow of those guys from late August till the end of the college football season. When you miss the playoffs, as the Falcons did, you know where you're drafting, like the first week in January. They've had the eighth pick now for four months. This wasn't something that changed. In free agency, a lot of things are fluid, right? You cut guys, guys take pay cuts, your cap changes. Weird shit happens. You saw it with the chargers.

Went into the offseason, like, who are they going to keep? Between the big four of the two receivers and the two pass rushers. No one really knew. It's like, could Bosa be traded? Could Mac be cut? Could Keenan restructure? And then it played out. Kept the two D linemen, the two wide receivers.

It's a very fluid process. The draft, in terms of your pick, is not. Now, when you're at like Chris Ballard, for example, he said, Latu Latu was the number one defensive player on his draft. That's probably been set for a couple months. But he has no clue at Pick 15

if that guy's going to be there or not. All the stories before the draft, Howie Roseman trying to trade up for the corner probably that he inevitably got. Why? Because he's like, I'm not sure if that guy's going to be there when we pick. A lot is out of your control. when you're at 15, at 18, definitely in the 20s.

But when you're in the top 10, and it is very clear who the first five picks are going to be, I don't have Jim Harbaugh's number, but I know enough people in the league and have followed his career, like he's taking an O-Lignment. Everyone in their mother, even though Mondi Yossam Fort was like, we're open for a trade, clearly he even said, like, it's going to take a lot for us to move, but we are open,

knew that he was going to take the wide receiver. and it was going to be Marvin Harrison. So you knew all the quarterbacks are going to go, and shit, we've known that for a long time. We've known Caleb Williams was going number one like two years ago. And then with Jaden's success

and either Drake May or J.J. McCarthy, you knew five, like you had a pretty good idea who the first five picks were going to be. And at pick six, you're like, the Giants, what are they going to do? Well, it's pretty clear the coach needs to win this year.

not going to take a quarterback if he didn't trade up. Well, he couldn't trade up and he ended up taking a wide receiver. And at seven with the Titans, they weren't taking a quarterback. Why? Because Rand Carthin loves Will Levis. So the GM Terry Fontenow, who says, you know, things change. We had to think big picture. You've known or had a damn good idea for a long period of time that Michael Penix was going to be there at number eight.

Every team has the same amount of resources. They all have the same amount of cap space. they all have the same amount of draft capital. You just get to choose how you want to use it. If you want to trade three first rounders for Deshawn Watson or Trey Lance or that's your choice. If you want to give Christian Wilkins $85 million, if you want to trade two first rounders and pay Jalen Ramsey like the Rams did or Matt Safford, you can do whatever the fuck you want. But this is not baseball where the A spend no money, the Ray spend little money, the Yankees

spent a ton, the Dodgers spend even more. This is football. The Bengals and, you know, the, the Bengals. The Vikings and the Rams and the Cowboys, they all have the same amount of capital. How you choose to allocate that capital makes or breaks you. The Atlanta Falcons quarterback situation last year was a embarrassment. It was.

They started a guy who's probably a fringe backup as their full-time starter. And it wrecked their season. They needed a quarterback. They knew it. We knew it. My mother knew it. It's not a complicated situation they were in. But figuring out how you're going to allocate your resources for your quarterback is a game changer.

The Vikings were in the same scenario. So they figured out a way. Now, I'm kind of with Colin. JJ is a pretty risky player. But they didn't go out and re-sign Kirk Cousins to also sign J.J.M. McCarthy. Why? That would make no sense. What did they do?

They gave $10 million to Sam Darnold. That if JJ needs a red shirt and Sam's having it, in a good year, we'll play them. And then we'll transition after the year. The Raiders, who got left at the altar, tempted to do the same thing. We'll give Gardner Minchu, whatever, $8, $10 million,

to hold us over, and we'll figure out if we can draft a quarterback, we have no clue. The Falcons went all in on Kirk Cousins. That move in a vacuum totally makes sense. Little risky because he's coming off the Achilles, but like, hey, you want to get Kurt Cousins, okay.

Then to draft a guy at eight, who is a ready-made player. This is not like when the Packers drafted Jordan Love. One, he was a project. Two, they had a guy who had won several MVPs on their team. And nobody, including Jordan Love, his family, his girlfriend, and everyone in his life said, you got a chance to beat out Aaron Rogers.

It was honestly laughed at by a lot of people in Packer. Like, what are we doing here? Here's the thing with Kurt Cousins. And this is what happens when you jump around teams. You have no equity with this team. You do with the owner because he gave you money. The fans don't give a shit. The players definitely do not.

And I've said this a couple times because I thought this was one of the best tweets I saw this weekend is Kirk Cousins is not going to be available at OTAs. So who's going to be getting the reps? It ain't going to be some random guy on the roster. It's going to be Michael Pennix. Well, what are the Falcons full of on offense?

Young impressionable players. Bijon Robinson Drake London Kyle Pitts These guys have no connection to Kirk Cousins So all of a sudden Michael Pennix looks good in practice

They don't care how much money you gave them Michael Lombardi said it on his podcast today You can't lie to the players Now you're obligated to initially start this guy Because of the money you're giving him But you have created a locker room dynamic That is really, really awkward Going back to the Packers and Jordan Lerner

Love. A little weird because it pisses off Aaron Rogers, but there's no weird locker room dynamic. Devonte Adams, all the offensive lineman, Aaron Jones, you name it. Every offensive skill guy on that team doesn't even need to see Jordan Love practice to go, no way he's better than this other guy. No way is it even a question mark. But this, the question marks immediately start. What if Kirk Cousins is not near what he once was because of this injury? What if he starts rusty? What if it's just a weird transition? What if his emotions, as Colt McCoy said, because Colt spent time around him in Washington, like, yeah, he's kind of sensitive. What if this rattles him? So I totally understand the logic of investing in the quarterback position. The Packers did it with a late first round pick.

The Eagles did it with Jalen Hertz in the second round. Bill Belichick did it once upon a time with a second round pick of Jimmy Garoppel. You can go back to Bill Walsh when he traded little to nothing for Steve Young. When you invest the eighth overall pick into a player in 2024, no one wants to watch that guy sit on the bench. Not a fucking soul, especially when he started for half a decade in college football. This isn't some project.

No one knows if Michael Pennix is going to be any good, including Michael Pennix or the Atlanta Falcons. I think he's pretty damn good player. I liked him a lot. I have no issue if you want to draft him eighth overall. But if you just guaranteed a quarterback $100 million, it just doesn't make any sense. And Coward's big thing is like, it's like buying insurance.

I hear that. The difference is you would never allocate that much money to cousins and then buy insurance that costs as much as Penix does. Because this is the eight and what you gave up, the ability to draft a very impactful. defensive player. It does not add up. It simply does not.

And it gets back to the Falcons have no plan. They didn't have a plan. They are flying by the seat of their pants. Because this would have been one heading into free agency going, guys, we don't need to give cousins all this money. Why don't we just sign one of these guys for $10 to $12 million

for one season to give us a little breathing room? but I'm like 90% confident, hell, 95% confident on March 15th, then Michael Penix is going to be there at 8th. In worst case scenario, over the next month, we start getting a little rattled that something's going to happen. It's way easier for us at 8 to trade up to 4 with the Cardinals to get them than any of those guys in the early teams, like the Raiders or Seattle or whoever.

we are much closer and it allows Monty okay maybe he can't get Marvin Harrison but he could draft Roman Dunzae who is the wide receiver they would have drafted if they would have done a tradeback because they were never going to trade far out of there so to me this speaks to

embarrassing planning this is a joke it really is and this feels like I'm all for being influenced like over the last month but the GM should have been all over this in December that's his job

This is not Rahim Morris's job or not Zach Robinson's job to be locked in. So clearly they fell in love with the guy. This is a coach-influenced pick, right? They really like the guy. So does the GM not like the guy? I just don't understand. Now, I've only worked for one GM, Harvey Roseman, and it's always big picture planning. That's the way he operates.

I can't even relate. I mean, I honestly can't. And I'm not acting like the draft is easy or this is some exact science. But I think we all agree that if you're going to give Cousins that money to draft this player at 8, when you would have known that before you gave Cousins this money,

is fucking moronic. It really is. Because you didn't have to allocate, and what's the most powerful thing about a rookie quarterback? Bo Nix, Drake May, Caleb Williams, go around. J.J. McCarthy, all these guys that got drafted high. Their contract.

Why? Because they don't make that much money. and if they turn into a solid starter or a high-end player, it's the best deal in all of sports. It's been the number one thing. Obviously, you would say the number one thing, is Purdy's played well, but you would say one B is he makes a million dollars a year. We could argue, is he a $50 million players, a $30 million player?

He sure as hell is worth more than $1 million. But the 49ers have had way more wiggle room because of that deal. and the Falcons just wasted that because the $100 million they just gave to Cousins is the type contract you would give to Christian Wilkins to a sweet defensive player to a sweet offensive lineman, whatever

make a trade next year with your first round pick and go get a Jalen Ramsey but now they've used that bullet at least these first couple years on the same position in quarterback like kickers there's only one you don't get to mix them in.

So if I'm one of these teams that just took, if I'm the Vikings, and I just took Dallas Turner, let's say he's not ready year one. He still gets to play. He still gets to give me maybe 10 designated pass rushes or a corner, some of these guys that were drafted early. What if they're slow to figure it out?

You can still use them on special teams, maybe bump them into nickel throughout the season, if they're more comfortable there early on than outside. Can't do that with quarterback. Cousins is just playing. Pennix just sits there. And he was, I would say, of all the players not named Caleb

was the last player who just needs to quote-unquote sit there. So I'll never get behind this because I don't think they had a plan. And I think you're there just freewheeling that. And whether you're running Apple, Tesla, or J.P. Morgan Chase or running a football team, if you are in management

and don't have a plan, I'm going to bet against you. I don't think you have any chance. So the Falcons, it was just, I can't get over. I think it's one of the dumbest set of moves, cousins and panics, the combination.

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I mean, he still talks about it, but it was like one of his big takes was how he hated the underdog. He hated the little guy. And I first started listening to him when I was in college and throughout when I went to Fresno State. And it used to tick me off because I was working for the little guy. And we weren't ever good enough to make a run, but we played Boise State. In Boise State, I often thought could, like, compete with USC, whoever in the SEC, like they were a national championship contender. Now, they never got that opportunity, but I truly believe that to my core.

But I've changed my thinking over time. And listen, I'm very grateful to have gone to school at Cal Poly and Fresno State to programs that are not the University of Texas or Michigan or Ohio State. When it comes to athletics, that's for sure. And now, like, as a fan, I like watching the Big Dogs. I haven't watched much in the NBA playoffs. I've watched every dribble, or I did, it's over, now of the Lakers Nuggets.

And it was fantastic. One of the best five-game series I've ever seen. Mainly because, I love seeing the Lakers lose, and I knew they would. But Yokic is clearly established himself as not only the best player currently in the world, but one of the best players we've ever seen. And right now he's about to win his third MVP in like four years. And unless someone on his team gets injured, including himself, they're going to win the NBA championship.

Like he's going into Hart. hollow territory. And I like watching guys separate from the pack. I like watching the best teams and the best players. What Patrick Mahomes just did is insanity. Win his third Super Bowl in five years. He's established as not just the best

quarterback in the NFL, but one of the best players we've ever seen. And he's like in the peak of his powers. Not even 30 yet. So like how far can he go? My favorite athlete by, I mean there's two of them, but as a kid like anyone born in the mid-80s,

Michael Jordan was spectacular. And then coming into your own as a sports fan, getting to live through Tiger Woods, is something we'll probably never see again, and something I'm very, very glad that I got to watch and really be able to defend it. Because I've often said,

if you're in a bar arguing with someone, if you didn't grow up or were of age to watch that player, it's a hard argument. YouTube does not do justice to when you're watching a guy life, especially as you get older. Like, I can speak pretty confidently about Peyton Manning

and Tom Brady, about Steph Curry, about Tiger Woods and Phil Mickelson, Rory, whoever. I mean, the players that I've watched. It's hard for me, besides, like, yeah, I know Magic Johnson and Larry Bird, all-time greats, but to, like, legitimately get into an argument. Like, if we're getting to an argument about Jack Nicholas and Arnold Palmer, even like Greg Norman and Nick Fowlde,

like, I don't feel as strong in my argument. I can watch all the YouTube's and 30, first 30s and everything possible on the internet. It is not the same. So watching Scotty Sheffler doing what he's currently doing is freaking awesome. Now the sad part is the tours in turmoil, the tour is split, and television ratings

are down. Despite golf in terms of the amateur world, never being more popular. More people are playing golf in 2024 than ever before. The access is much easier. There are a ton of courses. The public courses are absolutely packed. The waiting list

at country clubs all over the country is a mile long. And golf's very, very popular. It's a unique sport, right? I played high school football. Have not played a down since. Most people that play high school football never play in college. Yet we become football fans the rest of our life. But I'm never going to throw a pass at Lambeau Field.

I'm never going to run for a yard in Heinz Field, right, where the Pittsburgh Steelers play. It's like, I'll never show. shoot baskets at MSG. But I can play golf at the overwhelming majority of courses that pros play. And if you're lucky enough to

run in the right circles, you might even get access to some of the sweet courses they play that are country clubs. It's not possible. Like if you're a tennis player, you're not playing Wimbledon. That's what makes golf pretty special. And Tiger really brought that to light. He made it cool. I don't know if Scotty Schaeffler

is that he's not even close to the level of super superstar the tiger was, but he is a special player in the peak of his powers. And after he won the Masters pretty easily, I thought the most impressive accomplishment he's had

in his career. And he's won the Masters twice, was winning the next week. He literally went home, his wife was pregnant when he gets home to Texas. She's asleep. He goes out with the boys. 48 hours later, he flies back to the RBC at like Tuesday night, start slow on Thursday.

Day, and then you look up on Sunday, he's kicking the shit out of everybody. And I looked on Draft Kings today right now. They have a special for him to win the Grand Slam. He's 40 to 1. Now, I said after the Masters, the only thing, like, I think it's over, under right now on majors, is two and a half. That's what I would put it at. Because I think between Pinehurst and the Open Championship, he's a lock to win one

of those two. The only reason I'm hesitant on the PGA Championship in Valhalla is because his wife any day could have a baby. And then the moment when you first have a baby, you don't sleep. You're sleeping in a terrible chairbed. Never had one, but seen pictures. Bend to the room after my friends and brothers have had kids. But it is a life-changing moment.

In a life-changing moment for you personally, especially in the short term, just with sleep and your routine is going to be thrown off. So who knows how much practice he's going to have before the PGA. And then I started thinking like, well, he had no practice or probably slept that much or did anything the couple days leading into the RBC

and he basically won with his fucking eyes close. So why couldn't he win a major? Now, obviously if his wife hasn't gone into labor and that's a story that to me would have much more substance behind it because she could actually have the baby, that's a whole different conversation. But if the baby happens before,

you know, I don't know if I'm off him that much. And if he were to win Valhalla, that 40 to 1, to me, probably goes down to like 12 to 1 immediately. Because, one, I think he's winning Pinehurst. I mean, it sets up perfectly for him. And by then, he will have enough time to kind of get his routine and just gets a normal sleep in order for the major push. I looked at last year. And remember, he couldn't putt last year.

He was an awful putter. He finished T-10 at the Masters, which probably going to be an outlier for his career because he's going to win that thing like five times. And then the next two majors, the PGA and the U.S. Open at L.A. Country Club, he finished T2 and third. Again, could not putt.

The British Open, which has given him some trouble, though he's only played in three. He finished T-23. And two years ago, his best finish in 2021 was T-8. I guess my overall point is, I don't think it's crazy. at all to throw a little money on him 40 to 1 to win the Grand Slam. Seems

crazy, right? Just because of how difficult it is, how much pressure is on these majors. But for the first time, since Tiger, you're like, yeah, this is real. This is very, very possible. Now, the crazy thing is, when Tiger was in his heyday, you know, people

love to make fun. Like, it was just plumbers and firemen as a type guy who was playing. No, he played against a pretty good players. Last time I checked, like, Ernie else could play. VJ. Singh could play. I mean, David Duvall in the late 90s was pretty damn good. Now, the depth of talent was nowhere near what it is now. Not even close. But Scottie's shown, like, he's not even that affected by it. I don't give a shit how good all these guys are. I'm dramatically better. I'm dramatically better.

Now, the irony is the one guy that could take him down is a guy that would be playing potentially in his second major. Ludwig, who is clearly a special, got a chance to be a transcendent talent. So I just think this 40 to one number, if you had told me before the year, or just moving forward, anyone could ever win the Grand Slam again, I'd be like, it'd be shocking if a guy won two majors in a year, given the current crop of guys playing in these major championships and the depth of just elite players. I mean, it goes 15 deep with just high, high-end players. I don't know. He might just be that much better than everyone, despite the baby situation. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football, or my career in sports media. Well, somewhere along the way,

this platform became bigger than I ever imagined. And now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show. This is a place for raw, unfiltered conversations with some of your favorite athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. One week I'll take you behind the scenes of the biggest moments in sports and entertainment.

And the next, we'll talk about life, mental health, purpose, and even music. The Clifford Show isn't just a podcast. It's a space for honest conversations, stories that don't always get told, and for people who are chasing something bigger. So if you've ever supported me or you're just chasing down a dream, this is right where you need to be. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok. Talk Podcast Network on TikTok. Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tontons and wampas on the ice planet hot,

or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith Rule of Two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast. I've been saying this for a while because the hype, and rightfully so, is pretty outrageous, right? They finished the season strong. Their defense was playing well. The sweat trade aged pretty well. He was an immediate impact player.

Jalen Johnson became, I don't want to say like a superstar, but a super high-end corner. Fresno kid, always a root for him. And Ryan Poles, I think, universally is concerned. considered like a really good GM now. Just had an elite 12 months stretch. I've said this to Colin. I've said this on this podcast. I say it to anyone I talked to.

The trade he made for the Panthers, whether Caleb works out or not, has to be one of the great fleece jobs in league history. Just the value alone in that trade, let alone if this trade works out, if DJ Moore continues to be

a high-end player for them and Caleb Williams just becomes a top 12 quarterback. it was it was highway robbery it was a lotonsa heist i mean that's what it was it turned the other franchise into shambles i mean no one gets made fun of more than the panthers and no one gets more credit and that's what happens when you have a crazy lopsided deal so you look at the franchise you go well bears trajectory high Caleb gonna be the starting quarterback i mean at minimum even if things go shitty for three and a half you're going to get a long runway Ryan Poles, he's getting a second coach.

Here's the problem. We have absolutely no clue. None if he refluse is good. And all the pressure, because I saw today the odds for the first time in a long time, the Chicago Bears over under is 8.5. And the under is like minus 140. So they are favored to have an above 500 record. That's just from a gambling standpoint.

I just think if you talk to right, random people. I'm not even talking Bears fans. You go, yeah, I think the Bears would be pretty good. They have not had that type hype in a long, long time. Probably since the Cleo-Mac trade. And when Mitch was kind of an unknown. Well, now, let's face it, we think this team is better because clearly, even if you were high on Ms. Trubisky, your views on Caleb Williams are going to be much higher.

Well, they have a coach who is not some established big name guy who's coaching for his job. Now, you can say it's the NFL most coaches. beside like the top six or seven are coaching for their job. But this guy, you could see a scenario if they miss the playoffs and win eight games. And even if in some tight losses, they look really good.

He is not the coach moving forward. And the big theme right now, I heard Slareth with Coward. And he's like, one thing Steve Young used to hammer home all the time is it can be difficult for a young quarterback playing with a defensive coach, especially a highly touted guy.

and Collins's big thing always is like, hire the offensive head coach. Now, obviously there are good head coaches that aren't the offensive play caller. But if we did a coaching draft, we all know the majority of guys going in the top five are head coaches that call the place. I mean, three of the top five guys for sure would be Andy, Kyle, and Sean McVey in some order. Andy would clearly go one. And then there'd be the hard boss in guys like that fighting. And even Jim, despite being viewed as like an offensive line and defensive guys,

is a former quarterback. So you look at this situation, and everyone is really high on it, and everyone's anointing these guys. And listen, I'm no different. I like this team. But I've been around football long enough now. I've been going to training camps

and been around operations from watching Andy Reed and Harbaugh coach to guys like Jim Tom Sula and Chip Kelly when he was with the 49ers, and Dennis Allen. So who your head coach is is very important. We all know that. This is not like breaking news here.

But the pressure that's going to be felt on this team, like Caleb has pressure, sure, but he's kind of on scholarship. Ryan Poles has pressure, sure, he ain't getting fired. There's only one guy who truly has winner, you're fucked pressure, and that's Matt Eberfluse. And, you know, he's redone his image, seems like a good guy, obviously a solid defensive coach, but it's about winning this year.

And I think if I went to everyone that's listening right now, Chicago Bears fan, you'd say probably anything under 10 wins would be a disappointment. Well, who's to say this guy has that capability? Not because your roster talent isn't there, but we all know roster talent doesn't equal wins always in the NFL over the course of us. It might win you an individual game, but it doesn't lock you into a 10 and 7 record. Just like good coaching can overcome. I thought Brian Dayball a couple years ago had one of the great coaching years in recent memory.

Because I didn't think their team was any good. and they made the playoffs and won a playoff game. The other thing the bears have to deal with is the division is really, really good. I mean, the Lions roster is loaded. They didn't lose any coaches, and they didn't lose any players that matter. The Packers, everyone's kind of anointing them,

and I'm probably guilty of this too. Now, Jordan Love's going to have to prove it again, but I think we can all agree, probably going to be pretty good. Because as all of us learned that shorted the Packers last year, like they kind of know what they're doing when it comes to quarterbacks. And we know their roster and the way they draft is always solid. So if Jordan Love, he doesn't even have to have some of the outrageous games.

If he's just a top 15 quarterback, they're going to win. Why? Because their coach is proven to win constantly, whether it's Jordan Love or Aaron Rogers. And even Kevin O'Connell. I mean, he had Kirk Cousins by far having the best year of his career. I mean, there were moments last year, especially that final month before he heard as a He was like a top five quarterback in the NFL. And we know how much talent they have on their roster. So I think the divisional difficulties, I also looked at their schedule.

They play the 49ers. They play the Rams. They play the Houston Texans. They play the Indianapolis Colts. Even the Jags, who, you know, I think should be at least a little more feisty than last year. Like, that's a tough game. That AFC South Division is not as easy as it's been. We know how much talent, Seattle.

battle has on their roster. The Cardinals definitely have more talent this year than last year, and we saw last year when Kyler came back, they're a mother to deal with. Even if the Cardinals are a six-win team, you get Kyler on the right day. He can be a major problem for anybody. So this bears hype, and I get it,

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