The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Browns name Deshaun Watson STARTER over Shedeur Sanders, 49ers Owner Jed York ARRESTED, NFL Training Camp Mailbag

Episode Date: August 25, 2026

On this episode of 3 & Out, John Middlekauff reacts to the latest news surrounding 49ers owner Jed York, who was arrested, and discusses the fallout and what it could mean for the organization. John also dives into the Cleveland Browns naming Deshaun Watson their starting quarterback, breaking down the decision and what it means for Watson, the Browns, and the team's plans heading into the regular season. With roster decisions heating up around the NFL, John takes a look at the latest preseason cuts and discusses some of the biggest names and toughest decisions facing teams as they work toward finalizing their rosters. The episode also features another edition of Dad Diaries, where John shares the latest stories from life away from football. To wrap things up, it's a massive Middlekauff Mailbag, with John answering listener questions and diving into the biggest topics across the NFL and college football. From ownership drama and quarterback decisions to roster cuts, Dad Diaries, and fan questions, it's all covered on this episode of 3 & Out. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest.  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And one of the most embarrassing moments I ever remember in the history of the NFL. There's really no way around it. Jed York was just involved in one of the most embarrassing moments of my lifetime, when it comes to the national footballing.

And I woke up this morning. I actually woke up way later than usual. We had, to say we had a rough night on Sunday with the little seven-month-old would be the understatement of the year. It was a disaster. So there wasn't much sleep going on. I was up really, really late. She kind of took over in the middle of the night.

And I kind of came to at like 7.45 in the morning, which is the latest I've slept in, in what feels like forever. I mean, I can't even remember the last time my eye saw seven and I wasn't wide awake all over the house, whatever. And my phone was inundated. I mean, just flowing with text messages,

screenshots, pictures. And the first thing I see is Jed York in a jumpsuit. So obviously it's mugshot. He's been arrested. and the headline is arrested in East Palestine. I thought, you're telling me, this half Jewish guy went to Gaza?

That was honestly the first thing I thought about. Was like, this guy got arrested international? What is going on? What's he doing? What's going to? Why is he? What? I was in disbelief.

I was like, I need to get a little coffee. And then over the next hour, you start learning, all the details come out, that there's just no. way around it and this gets back to the embarrassment. Do you have a guy that runs one of the most prominent franchises in American sports get arrested in a sting

in a mobile trailer park in a trailer park soliciting a hooker which hot take probably lucky that this was is crazy to say a police sting because Jenny York's not exactly built like Dan Campbell you roll into one of these trailer parks in the middle of fucking BFE, Ohio

in a Rangerover or a bends or whatever this could have gone really, really bad. My wife watches a lot of these crazy documentaries and this had the feel seeing some of these pictures where it could have gone wrong, which clearly it was all fake, finds the prostitute online, and from what it seems like,

the information I have, I don't know, the cops are waiting for them, set up someone fake, busted them, and spent the night in prison or jail, as I'm recording this, he has to serve two days, he gets credit for Sunday, maybe he's still in there,

serving that second day. And I think for the 49ers to put out a statement that read, as this is a legal matter, which has been resolved, we will not be providing any more information at this time. To me, a legal matter that has been resolved is like, you know, a dispute with a landlord and a tenant,

a dispute with the bank, something in civil court over money. You know, if you ran a business like the 49ers, maybe getting sued by employees, when you get arrested for soliciting a hooker in a trailer park, that's a little bit more than, yeah, it's a legal matter that's been resolved. and he was going to, the hooker was going to cost $140.

He had $160 on him, which means he had planned to tip under 15%, which I, listen, not a hooker guy, don't know the going rate on how a tip works for performances rendered, but there's no way around it. I mean, there is no, I don't even think there's a debate. The league is going to suspend him. We see players constantly getting suspended for worse. This to me, and I've seen a lot of comparisons to this to Robert Kraft, an 80-year-old man in Palm Beach getting a little, you know what,

from a massage therapist, which I'm sorry, I don't even think they're comparable. Then a guy in his 40s who got divorced or filed for a divorce a couple months ago looking on the internet for a hooker and going, and the reason he's, in Ohio, his family's from Ohio. That was the home base of the De Bartolo family going back to Eddie's dad. His parents live there. So it's not like he flew to Ohio to go to a trailer park to get who knows what. But like I understand why he was there.

I cannot fathom. I don't care how lonely, how big of a disaster his divorce is, how bad of a mental state he is. Under no circumstances, if you are him, can you drive into? to a trailer park looking for a hooker. And that goes back to the league of like, I'm sorry. And I'm not one to like, you got to suspend them for this many games. Because I don't even know what that means for an owner. But he is going to get in trouble.

And some of these laws in Australia, I was talking to someone last week. We mentioned this on the show about marijuana. It being very, it taken very seriously over there, which again, seems like counterintuitive. if I would have thought Australians, I'd have been like, ah, super liberal, just drugs, you know, just hanging out. I guess that is not the case, no weed. So that's going to be a conversation with the players of,

I don't know if you can sneak in some gummies, but they take it very seriously. And if you have some of these things on your record, like it was not going to be easy to get there. I don't see how Jed York suspension or not would even be allowed into Australia, given what just happened. So my guess is 100%.

he is not going to Australia, which again, he's no different than just a fan in the stands. But now that the legal matter had been resolved, because what does the league usually say? Well, we let the process play out. And let's be real. I mean, this is rich guy taking advantage, how fast it happens. I watch Matt Mayoko, who covers the 49ers, had on a legal expert lawyer. So it's pretty unheard of to have something like this get turned. turned over this quick.

Clearly, the Yorks, the, the, uh, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, law team behind him, uh, work very, very quickly to make some things happen, enters a plea agreement, boom, serves two days, pays a fine. Kind of little Fugazi on the wording of like criminal tools instead of soliciting prostitution, uh, disorderly conduct or whatever. That's what was so confusing when the story broke. I've never, especially covering talking about sports, when people get in trouble seeing criminal tools.

Criminal tools. Like what is, what are we talking about? But to have an owner get arrested in this fashion and given where he was arrested, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic and you know me. I'm no moral police. Like, I mean, to pretend that other people in the NFL, powerful people, aren't involved with hookers or paying for sex,

like, you'd have to be really, really naive. You really would. So, like, I don't care what you do behind closed doors, but I just know that you cannot have Jed York rolling into a mobile trailer park with $160 in cash trying to get late and having the cops there ready to pop them based on an internet ad. Like honestly the crazy part about this

for a guy that has been based and lived in Silicon Valley for decades. So it has a pretty good understanding of the internet of all the ways to attempt to get laid. with some hired help, just finding an ad on the internet and then going, once you plug it in your phone,

seeing where you're going, to then attempt to do that, I almost can't, I can't believe you're sober. I can't believe a sober human being would attempt that. The problem with that argument is it was 9.35 in the morning.

9.35. in the morning. Now listen, not the biggest drinker. Honestly, it's kind of sad. More of a binge drinker than, you know, I'd go forever without having cocktails. Obviously, if you're, you know, hardcore boozers, you've got a problem, you can drink all hours of the day. But it is really hard for me to wrap my head around that a sober individual in his 40s, listen, we're all human beings. So regardless of what your bank account says, you go through hard times, can really mess with you. but like you would have some knowledge of like,

yeah, this is pretty sketchy, probably shouldn't do this. And then you factor in like, hey, if something goes wrong, this is a massive public story. And that's what this turned into the moment. Yeah, it actually wasn't a hooker. It was pretty clearly the cops behind these fake ads.

We've all watched enough television shows to go, yeah, it's pretty easy to set up. And they're just waiting for you. And again, The $20 tip, he had brought the extra $20, is somewhat funny to me. But awful. I mean, there's just no way to put it.

I mean, what do you even say? The statement honestly makes it even more embarrassing. Like, what I would recommend, and listen, I'm a big believer. I think PR is a little overrated. Like, not every human being that follows the 49ers or falls, the NFL is waiting for a 49er statement. Hot take, don't say anything. What could you possibly say to not make this worse

unless you just tweeted like a statement from Jed? And Kyle, I'm pretty sure he's scheduled to talk on Tuesday. Obviously he's going to be asked about it. My guess is he completely deflects. Like, hey, this is a personal matter between Jed. I got no comment. And I don't blame him. that's really the only tactic you can take.

I think Jed is going to have to say something. This is going to be one of those where Jed's going to have to say something. Maybe he goes to sex rehab or I don't know. Something's got to happen. And I would imagine when the NFL comes down on him, maybe that is associated. Because I just have a hard time seeing a guy going through a rough time. and I'm going to give him the benefit of that on that.

This divorce, which he filed for, I think I read today in May. So it's still relatively fresh. You've got young kid. I think kids are kids. He definitely has one. Okay, listen, I've known my friends, family member, people have gone through the divorce.

It can fuck you up. I don't care. To pull this off, like I just, it's hard for me to wrap my head around. It really is. Now, I've also seen some over the top, like, he's going to get kicked out of the league. Like, he's not getting kicked out of the league.

You don't get kicked out of the league for Hooker. You just don't. That would be a slippery slope. Remember, I think why a lot of people thought that the NBA was going to beat around the bush on the Balmer thing. Obviously, that Steve had unlimited resources because he's like one of the richest humans on this planet. and he's definitely the richest NBA owner. But the other big reason was like, hey, they didn't want to get to a situation

where a lot of other owners are like, don't look at under my books, don't look at my franchise. This is one of those where I'll promise you this. I would bet my life on this. That there aren't going to be people to be like, yeah, let's kick Jed York out of the league and force him to sell because he got caught with a hooker.

That'll be something that is not going to get brought up by other NFL owners. because a lot of glass houses in that room. Promise you that. But regardless, this is something that just can't take place. I've said it before and I will say it again. When I was a freshman in college and the show Playmakers came out and the NFL freaked and Paul Tagliabu forced ESPN to cancel the show

because they had a player doing blow. They had an owner who was hiding or a coach hiding a sickness. They had an owner who had a bunch of issues, concussion issues, and all sorts of stuff going on. It isn't remotely as bad as what goes on in the actual NFL. And if you just take the last calendar year of things that have happened, it doesn't even scratch the surface of the realities that the actual human beings associated with the number one television show

partake in, get in trouble with, situations they're just involved in. And this truly takes the cake. Again, say it out loud. The owner of the 49ers goes to a mobile park in some random town in Ohio to get a $140 hooker

with $20 to give her as a tip. That's my... That makes me laugh. It just does. Now, we've got some people depending on where you are in the political spectrum. They're like solicitation, as long as you're overage, should be illegal. That's not the conversation we're having, but I just know that can't happen. And I would expect the NFL to suspend them. It wouldn't shock me if they are, if Rogers, I mean, this is a pretty embarrassing moment.

You know, Kraft got the Orchids of Asia on the day of the AFC championship. Kraft's an 80-year-old man. I'm sorry, I just look at it a little differently than like a guy in his mid-40s who's like active in Silicon Valley, who's politically active, like, who just in theory should hold him to a higher standard

than an 80-year-old man. Fair or not. I just do. You know? The craft thing, honestly, didn't bother me. I thought it was kind of funny. You know, he didn't get in any trouble.

Because I bet most people did. Who gives a shit? That's my take. Who gives a shit? This one is like, yeah. This is, is a problem because it's hard to think that this is just the random first time. Like you are putting yourselves, you're putting yourself, if you're Jed, in situations.

I mean, let's face it. We've seen documentaries. Like, bro, you get killed in these situations. Beaten. Rob, beaten to a pulp. Like, I truly believe, and I said it earlier, I think he is lucky the cops were there. These are the type of situations that could go from bad to as bad as it gets real in the blink of a fucking eye. I mean, seriously.

So this has, I don't think has any impact on the actual team. Like, their success is going to come down to McCaffrey and Kittle and Bosa and all those guys. But this is a stain on the organization. And this is an organization that once upon a time, the reason his family got the team, was because Eddie de Bartolo in the late 90s was caught with a bag or a briefcase. I forget the exact, you know, instrument he used to carry the cash. A $400,000 met a politician to try to get a riverboat casino in Louisiana. And that politician was wearing a wire and was being tracked by the feds.

And Eddie got popped. And that ended his reign, which at the time was one of the greatest runs in the history of sports. and we'll go down as one of the great runs in the history of sports. And as someone texts me today, the crazy part is, like, Eddie DeBardo is younger than Robert Kraft, younger than Jerry Jones. Like, he could still have been running the 49ers. Now, there is some debate whether he got kicked out of the league,

whether he just kind of didn't want to deal with it, and just gave the team to his sister, which is Jed's mom, who I think it was like 2007 or 2008, officially named Jed the CEO and then over the course the last like five years they have moved the shares I don't know if he's officially like

had to pay for him or they could just move it to him that he is the largest shareholder of the 49ers not his parents because for a long time it was like Jed runs the 49ers well technically his parents do and that's the thing with Kraft like at the end of this is why it's easier to be a little harder on Jed it's like

Kraft bought the fucking Patriots Kraft is a rich guy Jed got the team because his uncle once got in trouble and then his parents funneled him in the team. And listen, I got no ill will toward Jed. I don't know him. Maybe briefly kind of talk to him in a scrum situation. But I just think that I'm a human being.

And I just, you don't shake shit like this. You don't. And it'll be fascinating what the NFL does. I think they're almost obligated to, suspend him, again, whatever that means with an owner. Can't go to games. I mean, I don't think the 49ers is a business necessarily skips a beat. But, yeah, so it's an ugly situation.

You know, you poster him all over the internet. Everywhere you look, right, especially in the Bay Area. The papers will all have his face and the mugshot. And it's one thing, you know, what the mugshot is associated with, right? That matters. It just does. And his mugshot will always be associated with a prostitute in a trailer park. Can I tell you what my friends is Seekek?

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And then that, the last 48 hours happened, where he looked absolutely atrocious in a preseason game. Can't move, can't throw, just can't, I mean, can't play. And in fairness, in the 19 games in which he has played, he's thrown 19 touchdowns and average $12 million if you factor in his contract a game. that, and one of the reasons he missed a bunch of games, because he was suspended, is once he made the comments,

I was like, you just got to cut bait. And it's going to suck, you're going to eat a bunch of money, but this can't continue. And it wasn't about, I think, Shador is the next Mahomes, you know? I don't know, maybe he'll be a solid player. I got no clue.

It was just, you just got to start them. It'll breathe some life into the team. It'll make people want to watch them. It just, just move on. on from this situation. And then part of the thing you wake up to with Jed York is the Browns also, the Browns raised their hand, Jed, and they have named Deshawn Watson the starting quarterback. And I think it just shows you this was never a competition.

None of this mattered. You can't tell me it's based on practice because they rotated the quarterbacks in the games. If it was based on practice, you just would have kept starting the guy who was better in practice. this was simply money. This was, we've paid him a bunch of money. We're paying him a bunch of money this year. He has screwed our franchise.

We might as well just see if there's anything there in the actual games. Which I can't quite understand because we've seen him play these games. And it's looked exactly like it has in the preseason. Unplayable. Awful. If Deshawn Watson was a $2 million free agent signing or a, six, seventh round pick, he would get cut. They would release him.

And then the comments and the toxicity and the negativity around him. Like at the end of the day, the Jed York thing, like when the Niners run out their first home game, like, just not on the field, just not coaching the team, just doesn't give press the company. These owners never talk. Like, there's a chance. We hear from Jed once a year. Now, he profits and the equity off the team

has allowed him and his family riches beyond their wildest imagination. And Jedd specifically is filthy rich. But like the success or whatever of the team and the spokesman for the team, he has nothing to do with. We're on this, when you're the starting quarterback, you obviously are judged on the game,

but you speak for the team on Wednesday, you speak again for the team after the game. So the only person who talks more in the starting quarterback a week is the head coach. You are the spokesman for the franchise, you represent the franchise, and I know we tried to walk it back a little bit on Monday, saying his emotions got the best of them. But it's just, it's past the point of no return.

There's a toxicity around this guy, and just a pure hatred of the situation from the fan base, which is totally understandable. They despise this human being, and this human being represents the guy off the field and the guy on the field. they don't want to watch them they don't want to root for them all these guys

anyone with half a brain knows they weren't going to be that good anyway but to lose week in week out and having to watch this guy when at least hey let's just see if Dion Sanders kid you know that help Colorado win nine games and can at least throw an accurate

football can we just see if he's got anything we know we're in the quarterback market next draft we know we're going to move heaven on earth to try to make a huge trade if we're not drafting high enough and do whatever it takes to get one of the top guys in this class, assuming it lives up to its hype. Jimmy, the money's been paid. The salary cap situation is a salary cap situation.

Because I'm going to give Todd Munkin a little bit of a pass. He has coached for the last several years, Lamar Jackson. I think he's got a pretty good idea of what works and what doesn't work in the NFL at this point. this is 100% management above his head decision I cannot even contemplate

a human being watching what we all watched and going yeah I'm going to go and then factoring in the booze the comments and going yeah let's roll with that guy let's put him as our starting quarterback there's not a more negative situation in the entire league

I also think Deshawn, his comments with the power of social media and things that go viral, he's opened up a hornet's nest where they're going to boom on the road. This guy has become a target. This guy has, this isn't, well, we're safe away from home. Because a lot of people said today, well, they are on the road the first couple weeks, give a little soft landing for, you know, their first home game. It's not like they're opening up in Cleveland. I don't think it matters at this point.

I really don't. They're playing in Jacksonville, I think week one, they're going to get the ship boot out of them. And it's not going to be booed at Munkin or booed at any of the offensive. It's going to be booed at Deshaun Watson. He is the number one villain currently in the NFL for everything he represents,

for everything he represents. And I just think the Browns, some franchises, as a buddy texts me in a high-level operation, that this is, basically to defend people working in Cleveland. People in that organization that have given decades of their life

to work at the highest level. Now I have to sit back and watch this clown be the starter. Tough times, man. I think that's well put. Imagine working for the franchise. In the business side, in the scouting side, obviously the coaching side, and just knowing like the owner

who's trying to be like, hey, I'm staying out of the way, you can't convince me that this. is an ownership decision. Because this feels the only justification could be like, yeah, we're paying him a bunch of money. Which is what losing franchises do. And I think the cool part about rough day for the state of Ohio

is like when I think about Ohio, that is a place where people love football. Football is a really big deal. High school football, small school football. I mean, John Carroll produced like half the NFL. It's the Ohio State Michigan game. Like that is a hotbed for the sport that we all love in America. If you just threw me in Ohio, not East Palestine in the trailer park,

but just other places where, and who know, I'm not, listen, I don't know if there's hookers in it. Maybe they're not peaceful. I'm sure I'd get along. We'd probably talk football. And you just know this is what you have to consume? Like this is, I hate it when companies do things. It's basically an FU to them. the consumer. Because the consumer's all of our lifeblood, no matter what we do. And this is a,

this is an industry where it's like, yeah, you're guaranteed the money, win or lose. But like, you're still pretty dependent on these people. And because of the monopoly that a team has in their region and on their, like, no one wants to change a team at like 45 years old. They're there countless people in their 40s and their 50s. They just love the Browns. And it's like, listen, this sucks, but like I want to see it get turned around and just want it to happen.

No different with the Jets or the Cardinals or just some of these franchises that are just an embarrassment for the biggest league we have. And they're just hoping one day, maybe a new owner will come, maybe we'll get the right coach, maybe we'll just strike, you know, oil with a quarterback, and it'll just be fun.

And maybe we could have our job or Patrick Mahomes run. Maybe we could just find our Peyton Manning to change our franchise. And the Browns have consistently showed more than likely that's just not going to happen. And that has to make a lot of people sad, but this turns into anger.

And you never want to get to the point where people are apathetic, where they're just out, they're unemotionally moved. Like the moment she stops carrying what you think, you're fucked. She doesn't need to love.

like you, but if she hate you and she's anger, that emotion's powerful. No different with fans, right? The moment they do not care, you're done. S-O-L. And I think the Brown's got to be very, very careful. Because today,

well, not the biggest stain on the league, I thought it was also a pretty embarrassing moment. A couple of, the Titans stink. I don't know what else to say. They are terrible. I mean, Seattle rolled at their backups in a obliterated them in the first quarter.

I mean, it felt like watching a JV versus varsity game. It was like, are the Titans safe out there? And I just hope that this Cam Ward thing is not going well. You know, the owner is a kook. She has fired so many people. I'm a huge Robert Salad guy. But God damn, he might have taken, excuse my language. The wrong gig.

Great place. a lift. I got married there. I love Nashville. Beautiful place. No state income tax. Safe places. It's just, it's gorgeous. Broadway can be a little much, but also kind of fun. Man, I just think that not looking good. The other thing that's happening this week that you got to get right is because these big cut downs are going to come toward the end of the week and into the weekend into Monday is evaluation of your own team. every team has dedicated scouts to watching all the fringe bubble guys. So all these guys that get cut, Sunday, Monday, Saturday, potentially some of them,

the teams that play on Thursday and Friday, you are going to have multiple grades on any guy who's solid. And on just most of the random guys, you are going to have a grade. People watched all his snaps, put a grade separate from his college grade, like if there's a seventh round pick, how he played in his 20s, snap in the preseason. And obviously some guys, you kind of make lists based on the grades. Certain guys at certain positions that you need,

you are going to think about either signing or, you know, claiming in the waiver situation when guys get cut or trying to poach and put on your practice squad. The key is if you're a team is to keep the right guys. The evaluation process of your own team make or break you. and all these teams now, you know, a lot of these joint practices happen. So if some of these guys, even if you haven't played them that much in the preseason, these other teams have seen them in the joint practices.

People talk. It's kind of like high school. Everyone knows everybody. Word travels fast. This is the, you don't want to cut a guy that ends up on another team or trade a guy, you know, that's a seventh round pick to another team. and then in two years that guy's a high level starter

and they're a playoff team. You just don't want that to happen. So the evaluation process, before you can truly nail every guy around the league, you better keep the right 53 guys. And obviously you already have a pretty good idea who like the top 40 guys are on your team. But the difference of 41 to 60

could be just tough evaluations, tough conversations, opinions of assistant coaches and coordinators versus the scout. these are these meetings every single day. You know, whether it's in the morning or the afternoon or the night after dinner. You know, these off days, like when a team plays on a Saturday, the players are off on Sunday.

The scouting staff and the coaches are not off. So they will meet at some point in time that day and go over the game and go over the guy standing on the team. If you watch hard docks and they go to, to that big room with like 700 people, the coaching staff, you see John Schneider kind of off to the corner, I'm sure a bunch of other scouts and trainers are in there. That is what that meeting is, is to try to figure out your roster, who you're going to keep, who do you think the individual coaches, who they think they should keep. Obviously, the GM and the head coach work in unison

to try to either agree or be like, hey, we got to do this because of the number game. It's a complicated formula. And it's all about getting it right with your own team. So I'm fascinated by this time of year because always we see guys released or some weird trade and that guy goes, the chiefs once traded for Charverius Ward in the middle of training camp. He went on to be a three-year starter for them from the Dallas Cowboys. Then he went to the 49ers on a big contract.

then he went to the Colts on a big contract. Like, you can't let those guys go. You know? And sometimes, for whatever reason, specific player doesn't fit the scheme. But it's almost like, hey, can we figure out a scheme to make this guy work? He's too good to let go somewhere else and thrive.

When we're the one who kind of, you know, developed him during the last six months. Found him, signed him. Like, drafted him late. And it's a very, very... Tension's probably the wrong word, but just these are long days. And those couple days when guys get cut,

I remember I slept in the office. I didn't sleep in the office much, but I did a couple times during that period of time my first couple years, just because you got so much going on. And that was actually an easier time because we went from 75 to 53. Now they just go from 90 to 53.

So you just have a lot more players. The waiver wires, you print that thing out, it's like 75 pages long. before the mailbag my quick dad diaries is they get teeth right and Jack has a couple teeth

coming up the bottom like a rabbit we've been calling him Jack Rabbit because he's got these two little teeth he hasn't got any above and forever when you're playing with him making him laugh you could like stick your nose in his mouth and he kind of chomps down like he's got

you know like he's an old lady in a nursing home with takes out the dentures and he's just got gums so he couldn't hurt you and these teeth, at first they're just tiny little white things, and then they get big, and now he's just got two solid-sized teeth that are kind of jagged. And the other day, you know, you put them in the bath, we have a little routine bath, you lotion them down,

put him in a little sleep sack, you know, take him to bed. Well, he sometimes he goes nuts when you put the lotion on him. Hands kicking, freaking out. So I've been kind of holding him down like he's in an insane asylum, him and I tried to make him laugh. So I was making him laugh the other day and I was putting my nose which I've always kind of done

kind of by his mouth and we were just messing around and I put my nose all the way in his mouth. I wasn't really thinking about it for whatever reason. All of a sudden he clamps down

like he's a great white shark in the Pacific Ocean and I could feel his tooth going through the side of my nose and all of a sudden my eyes, I mean, it was as painful of anything I felt in a minute. And I looked down and my nose is just clamped down in his mouth. And I had to open it and pull out.

I had blood coming from my nose. And as I do that, he takes his hand and he slices my eye. I've had a scab for like three days right by my right eye. So I got Wolverine. I got jaws. And I I didn't quite give her enough respect. Maybe when he first started getting teeth

one night she was breastfeeding. Maybe it was during the day. She was breastfeeding. And all of a sudden she let out a scream you would have thought someone just got shot and it was the first time he had ever truly like clamped down and then pulled back with the teeth. Gotta be careful, man.

You got to respect as my wife said the other day, I'm scared of a seven-year-old. In my home, we are scared of a seven-month-old. Mainly because at any moment he can take away our entire night's sleep. At any moment,

he could rip off a nipple or a nose. It is truly crazy how when you don't, like I've never even thought, oh, babies, you know, I cry a little bit, don't sleep, whatever. It is they are in full fucking control.

your life. It's wild. But that that piercing pain of the two jagged teeth going in the side of my nose and the gum part up top clamping down, you know like when the mob takes a car to get rid of at the at the yard that smashes the car, that's the car felt like my nose and he felt like that machine that just destroys, uh, you know, makes like a suburb. You know, a foot high. It just, it just clad. It just smothers it. Be careful.

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To make it out alive, listen to The Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Our town is small taters by most standards, right? But to the people who grew up here, it's everything. What happens when a quiet Tennessee town becomes the front line in a battle over the future of America? Developers with right-wing ties have purchased hundreds of acres of land in the area. The first thing you see when it pops up is pioneers in Appalachia. But they weren't just planning houses. We need cities on a shining hill that exemplify and embody the Christian way of life.

Stop right there. Is that normal? A podcast about what happens when a small town becomes the site of a social experiment. God need men to rule. Great. And decides to fight back. Do not use my hard work to sell your bullshit. They're not just opposing what. It's being planned for here. Our hometown is not a test tube.

They feel like they're standing in opposition to an entire administration. Guess you didn't move in on a bunch of dumb hillbillies now, did you? Listen to our town on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, let's do a couple of mailbag questions. I've listened to your show for close to 10 years now. This is Dakota. I appreciate that, bro. In joint practices, do opposing teams ask the other side of the ball to run specific

player formations to see how they perform. I imagine the offense would run a team-specific play, but say, for instance, a generic power play, is it normal for defenses to ask for that just so the coaches can see how they look against someone other than themselves? Well, the head coaches work together. So the head coaches, before they practice, maybe two or three days,

are on the phone going over how we want to run practice. and some of these teams have done it years in the past so they already know what the other teams like but you work with the other head coach I would imagine some teams even have the coordinators touch base so you could set up the practice script of hey we're going red zone

hey when we're doing the ones can you do the ones are we going to go ones on twos hey maybe we get a period where we don't know your script we don't know what you're doing you do whatever you want maybe we set up a period, you know, for both of our offenses, like a blitz period against some of your looks.

So you work hand in hand with the other staff. You don't just show up to practice blind. Like, what do you guys want to do? So you come with the plan. Maybe you ad lib a little bit out there, but it is, it's a team effort. It's not like a game. I would say it's the opposite of a game.

You show up to a game. Ideally, no one has any information, right? and we see who the better team is. The practice is a complete opposite. Hey, how can we service you? How can you service me? So Jed said, and, yeah, it's a team effort by both teams. Your Ben on Aaron Glenn made me think of a quirky question for you.

Seven head coaches currently played in the league. Of those, I would assert that Glenn and D'Amico were stars. maybe you put Vrabel as a star two, definitely a high-level player. Jim Harbaugh, long career, but was kind of a journeyman. Kellan Moore, Dan Campbell, Todd Bowles were role players. I would go, Dan Campbell and Todd Bowles were like legit role players. Like they played. Kellan was just a lifetime, probably second, third stringer.

Like he was a, he was not on their level. But I hear what you're saying. I went back and looked 40 years ago, 1985. God, that makes us all feel old. I think more than half the coaches had played. The Super Bowl after 85 matched two coaches who had been Hall of Fame players, Ditka and Raymond Berry.

So the question is this. Is the former player as a head coach going to be extinct in 20 years? How can Aaron Glenn compete when he plays until he was 37 against Shanahan and Kubiak and McVeigh, etc? who are in the NFL meeting rooms at 22 to 24. Do you think being a former player brings anything to the table as a head coach in the 26th game? The difference is Aaron Glant, like if you play till 37, right, you have been with the team in the meetings.

So you are dialed in on football. Now, you have off days when they work. Your schedule is lighter, right? Just in terms of work hours, I mean, you have to play in the game. but like you don't get there as early as them. You definitely leave way before them. I think the number one reason this has gone the other way is, I mean, Aaron Glenn's a little older,

I came in the league in the 90s. How are you going to convince a guy who's made $150 million to work 90, 100 hours a week? You go back to Ditka, Raymond Barry, you just go around the league in the 80s, right? No one had made any money. So you weren't rich. All the guys now are filthy rich,

like so rich that their kids, kids knows they ain't run out of money. That's where I think that, you know, Dan Campbell was a role player, like you said. Who else did you lift? Todd Bowles. Todd Bowles played in the 80s. Todd Bulls probably didn't make that much money.

Jim Harbaugh was destined to be a coach. He idolized his dad and his dad was a coach. Vrable, I would say, is somewhat unique, but I bet if we look, Mike Vrable's career earnings. Mike Vrable earned $22 million playing in the NFL. I bet in the, as a coach, he's probably 3x that.

So if you are a role player and no one ever make any money and you love football, Yeah, coachings. But if you're... I just think that it's going to be really difficult to convince guys who don't need it financially. It's just going to be an itch. And I think one thing you've seen is a lot of them go to the youth sports

because they love football, right? Keeckley and Greg Olson and Philip Rivers. And you just go around. You see a lot of these guys coach in high school. Because like, you know, it's a little easier, but they still get their juices flowing. I truly think it's, the money. It's just the money. Now, there are going to be a, there's going to be a player who's made a lot of money that wants to coach in the NFL.

But it is a grind. The scrutiny of it, the pressure of it, it's a lot. It's just, it's a lot. So, I don't think they're at that big of a disadvantage if you've been, like, trying to think of a guy who's a good example of like a older, if like Joe Flacco, who's super rich. He's made a bunch of money. But if Joe Flack was like, I can be the head coach one day in the NFL. He's not wrong. You probably could if he cared, if you wanted to do. Well, it's like, well, Joe's starting at 40 years old and he's got to go up against Mike McDonnell.

D'Amico's a bad example because, now D'emico's career got cut short because of injuries. But let's just use Mike McDonald. So they're basically the same age. But Mike's been coaching since he got out of college. Well, Joe's been in these quarterback rooms and worked hand-in-hand with coordinator quarterback coaches,

he knows exactly what it looks like. So the tutorial for him would be way less of a transition. Now if you play DB and you just think like I'll be the defensive coordinator corner specifically

like in two years it could be a little more difficult. You look at like D'emiko, Vrable, like these guys calling the defense. You know, Kellynmore quarterback, Jim Harbaugh quarterback, quarterback.

Aaron Glenn just worked his way up. I mean, Aaron Glenn started at the bottom and worked his way up. Who's the other guy? D'emico. D'emico did too. D'emico started with the 49ers as a quality control coach. Now, he flew to the top.

I mean, within like three years, he was defensive coordinator. Maybe a little bit longer than that. I see comments online, might have been on Instagram, asking this question. And it got me thinking, what value do NFL owners actually provide?

The TV deal pays the running costs and as we've seen with the bill's new stadium the taxpayer front the cost of the new stadium with the Packers able to operate without an owner other than the occasional scandal what are the NFL owners actually providing to the league? Well they provide to their teams so if you have an owner

who is more willing to spend on players give big bonuses spend cash, not all teams are the same in terms of their practice facilities. Google Denver Broncos new practice facility. Would you rather be in that or just some of these other...

All the major colleges practice facilities are nice than most of the NFL's. Why? Because in the NFL I don't recruit you. I pay you to do the job. You know, the Chiefs take a lot of shit for a long time. So they can have better equipment. They can have better rehab equipment. You can pay, you know, to have better coaching.

I mean, the Chargers, historically up until Jim Harbaugh never paid a coach. So they are more, I would say, important to their individual organization than to the totality and the aggregate. The aggregate, they're very replaceable. They mean nothing during a week. They can't impact you negatively.

Dan Snyder used to be like, draft this guy or sign this guy, but most guys aren't necessarily doing that. It's more like, hey, we want, these three free agents, but to cook our books, we need to give them more cash and signing bonuses so we can amortize it over the cost of the deal. And some owners are like, yeah, I'm not paying that much cash.

And other owners would be like, do whatever you see fit. So I think it's more of that. What week one games are you most excited about? Well, not counting the primetime games because I think we all, you know, the first two games are really good. Seattle Pats, Niners, Rams. I would say

if we're just looking at Sunday and obviously Chiefs Broncos I mean those are fantastic games I think there were three that jumped out to me Saints Lions cannot wait the 10 a.m. slate actually isn't terrible Saints Lions

Ravens at Colts is a good one. Bears Panthers I mean I want to watch Caleb Bill's Texans is fantastic I mean that could be an AFC championship preview. Vikings pretty interesting. I would say,

I would say Bill's Texan's best game. The 10 a.m. Slate's not bad. Bears, Panthers, Ravens Colts, Saints Lions, bucks at the Bengals. There's some bad ones though.

Jet Titans, dolphins, Raiders. Who the Cardinals, Chargers? What's the line on that thing? Chargers are a 10-point favorite week one.

You know you suck. If you're a 10-and-a-half-point underdog week one. You suck. I mean, Jesus. Okay, two more. Huge fan of the show. Why do you think most people won't acknowledge

how bad of a pick Will Campbell truly was? Membu, Banks, and Simmons were picked after and played in a different stratosphere than Campbell's rookies. The kid mims on the Bengals is also a freak athlete. Even if Will Campbell reaches the ceiling and cleans up his technique, like Whitworth says, his athletic upside is nowhere near the four guys I just mentioned. So I don't see any scenario where the Patriots,

it can justify. I think they really fell in love with his like his makeup. Super high character, team captain, just wants it, cares. But there are certain positions. Like guard, you know, I can just win on toughness and guile and grit and just grimyness.

As a left tackle, it's just like you versus all the dudes and can you take them down? Now, I'm not going to write the guy off after rookie season, some of it he was injured. But week one, you got some fucking dudes you're playing. And they just worked you on the Super Bowl.

Well, you're playing week one Wednesday night football. There ain't going to be 100 million people watching. How many people you think are going to watch Wednesday night, Patriots and Seahawks? My guess will be 30 million people. 30 million people. Maybe I'm low. I think these first two games,

Netflix, second game, but like NBC, everyone has the channel. I think the rating on this game, Super Bowl rematch is going to be massive. And you watch Seattle, they're backups against the Tennessee Titans. They're backups.

That first quarter, it looked like, are they trying to hurt people out here? Their mentality, they're going to come for this guy. And Mike is an elite defensive coach. I think we learn a lot right away. like what's this kid got? That's a big, big night for the guy.

I'm not going to write anyone off after one year. But I hear you. It's pretty scary. Because he, like Simmons and the cheat, like, not even comparable. Help me understand your resistance to NFL rookies who are cut, unhappy going back to college for NIO money. Don't we want football players to be able to play football?

It seems anti-capitalists to prevent players from earning what they can while they can. Well, this group of guys, their eligibility was over. And now they're just going back and saying they have an extra year. Like, we have to have parameters and rules. Like, you can't just play college football forever. You know why? Because there are 18-year-olds on the field.

So I can't have 30-year-olds. Why didn't Texas Tech, when Soresby got in trouble, just called Patrick Mahomes? You're anti-capitalists? Like, why can't he just go back? Why couldn't, you know, if Baker Mayfield didn't want to play for the, uh, Bucks anymore, they don't give them a contract. Why couldn't you just go back and play at Oklahoma? Like, where do you draw the line?

Like, I'm not as bothered by these guys that aren't going to be in the league. I got no problem. But, Ken, I just think that there has to be specific rules about once you go to an NFL training camp, it's no different with the basketball. You can't be in the G league and then go back and play at Alabama. Tried to happen last year. People, it's like, we have to draw a line in the sand. No one has a problem that has any common sense or brain with any one.

when getting paid. And I actually watched Lane Kiffin today, and I do understand what he said. He's like, this is a unique circumstance. De Kwan Wright wouldn't have left college if he would have had an extra year of eligibility. Where I do think it gets weird is like,

if you could be on a practice squad and you go back to college, I think that, I just think it gets weird. I mean, listen, I'm as capital, I'm a capitalist. I'm all for is making much money as you can.

I'll give you a high five and celebrate it. but I also think like if you go to the NFL, especially if you declare and you get drafted and then it doesn't go well that you can just return, like we all abide by certain rules. The NFL has specific rules. They used to have rules for the practice squad. If you burned your practice squad eligibility,

you weren't eligible anymore. Right? There are certain eligibility in anything that once you hit, you know, like a movie ticket or a lift ticket to snow ski, there's a difference in what you pay at 15 than what you pay at 10 years old. There are just specific rules of things that you can do. And I just think that you're right. I mean, this is so new and it was always viewed as taboo that I am not offended by this guy going back to Lane Giffin.

Where I do think it will get interesting of like, we want you on our NFL team. You've been with our NFL team and I'm going back. Do we feel no sympathy for the guy that they have to cut someone to make. room on these rosters. But like, you're asking the wrong guy of like, I'm not, I'm not like morally disturbed by any of this. I do think, though, in any highly functioning operation, there has to be some rules and regulations.

And there has to be a precedent. It's why I've always said, like, hey, you can go to the combine, you can work out up until the draft. You can go back, hell, after the spring. But like, once you join the workforce, to then hop back and forth, to me, feels a little bit in this weird gray area. These guys, as Lane said, specific, their situation is different than everybody. But like, why couldn't a guy who's been on a practice squad the last two years

who still has a year of eligibility just returned? Why can't anyone return if they have any eligibility left? Some of these guys went early. Justin Jefferson still has college eligibility left. Could you just take a year off and rejoin LSU? I'm dead serious. Like, where do you draw the line? And maybe he never would because they could never pay him what he's getting paid.

But I just think there has to be some sort of, and this is more of a college issue than an NFL. Like, there's just no rules. You just can't have a lawless society. You know, I've lived in California in Arizona. Like, there's some difference in how things are handled when it comes to crimes. You know, to have a high functioning society. you need rules and you need people to follow those rules

and if you don't especially break some specific rules there has to be consequences and I think there's just no consequences for anything and listen did the players get screwed for a long period of time not getting any money 100%

should they have been paid more than they were even getting paid under the table at the SEC schools 100% USC did too Pete Carroll everyone was cheating and I was never bothered by but I do think this the pendulum is swung

and I was like you can just do whatever you want whenever you want like even if I take a coach from a team I gotta pay a buyout if I hire Coach X and his buyout is 10 million dollars I have to pay him whatever I gotta pay him for him and accept my job

and I have to pay that school $10 million there's none of that with college some of these teams are going back and forth trying to get buyout and they can never figure it out So I guess it's a long-winded way of saying that I just think we need some concrete, this is what's allowed and this is not allowed. And I think that's what makes people uncomfortable.

It's like what is allowed. It feels like everything's allowed. I don't think this story gets super crazy unless a guy makes an NFL team. Let's say a seventh rounder makes the NFL team. But he's clearly the last guy in the roster. he's making the minimums $800,000, and he's like, well, my program will match that money and I'll start. Like that, that would be crazy. Nothing so far, none of these guys are going to play.

We'll have to keep it. I think Jack, what's his name? I forgot it when I was talking to Colin. Let's see. Jack Piper, the dude on Tampa. He's going to be an interesting test case. Some of these guys are going to want to play in the NFL I don't want to be on college campus anymore

I've been there for four years But again I'm not This is not this story doesn't Work me to the fact of like Can never watch college football It's it's immoral I know I'll be watching all the games I do believe that the commissioner should have stepped in

And have just create some hard and fast rules And work together But that's not going to happen So at the end of the day I know what I'm watching It's a lawless rule list's operation, which is still very entertaining on Saturday. But like a lot of guys in the NFL still have eligibility. One of these guys are going to try it one day?

I don't think it's capitalism. It's more like, I guess anyone else can always return to school. So you kind of got me stumped. Maybe you got a point. Because again, I'm not that worked up over it. The more and more you kind of read into it and who we're talking about. Now it's like, Sequins going back to Penn State. Be like, this is kind of crazy.

Okay, I'll end on this. In all seriousness, if you are the billionaire heir to the owner to one of the world's most valuable sports franchise, what are you doing with a hooker in central Ohio? This ain't the same thing as Kraft getting a working girl in Miami during Super Bowl week. A little off on the details there,

but I know what you mean. And after seeing what the Seahawks just went for, what do you think there will be outside phone calls testing the waters now, and what do you think the Niners value would be 25 billion or more. They don't own the stadium. That's the thing with the Lakers.

Like everyone agrees the Lakers aren't worth $12.5 billion. They don't own the stadium. Like part of the value in some of these big time franchises, like when you own the stadium, you own it all. Like part of the value of the Rams is you would get SOFI. You know? So the value of that franchise would dwarf any franchise.

when you factor in L.A. market, when you factor in what you can make off SoFi, that is paid off as well. So you got to factor all that in the 49ers have a lease agreement with the city of Santa Clara. I mean, it would go for a lot. I mean, all these, if Seattle went for nine and a half, I don't know, in Silicon Valley with all those guys in their backyard, 15, I guess. But he ain't selling. Or I'd be stunned. I guess you can never say never. but I don't expect

Like you said that the $20 was for the tip So it was 140 in central Ohio Have I ever been to Ohio? Yeah, I guess I went to a Cincinnati Bangle game Once I think I stayed in Lexington, Kentucky Which is right across the river I remember kind of liking it It was like it

The stadium was at the time old Still the same stadium But I just remember the vibe I was like this place kind of cool Bangal's pretty good back then Went on that Adios, take it easy and stay out of those trailer parks, man.

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