The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - CFB BANNING former NFL Players, 5 MAJOR Wild Card NFL Teams, NFL Training Camp Mailbag

Episode Date: August 26, 2026

On this episode of 3 & Out, John Middlekauff dives into some of the most interesting storylines across football and the sports world. John starts with the college football decision to ban NFL play...ers, discussing the implications of the rule, where the line should be drawn between college and professional football, and what it could mean for the future of the sport. With the NFL season right around the corner, John also identifies the teams that could be wild cards to make the playoffs. Which teams are being overlooked? Who could surprise everyone and make a run into January? John breaks down the potential sleepers and why they're worth keeping an eye on. John also takes a moment to discuss the passing of Dolly Parton, reflecting on her incredible career, cultural impact, and why her legacy extends far beyond music. To wrap things up, it's another edition of the Middlekauff Mailbag, with John answering listener questions and diving into even more NFL, college football, and sports topics. From college football rules and NFL playoff sleepers to the legacy of an American icon and your questions, it's all covered on this episode of 3 & Out. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest.  #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:50 podcasts. The volume. What is going on, my people? How are we doing? I'm John. This is three and out podcast. We have some clarity when it comes to these conferences. saying you cannot come back from training camp.
Starting point is 00:02:17 So we'll dive into that. They're finally showing a little unity in college football, which is rare. Unlike the NFL, the college is kind of independent operators, especially as conferences, but definitely as schools. I wanted to pick five teams. Didn't make the playoffs last year, who I think are the biggest wild cards headed into this season
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Starting point is 00:03:22 So yeah, let's just talk some late Kiffin. Early this morning, the Big Ten said, you will not be allowed to bring anyone in from training camp. If you signed an NFL contract and have spent time with the training camp, you are not eligible to play in the conference, regardless of what the courts say. and then the SEC right before I hit record following meetings with the president's,
Starting point is 00:03:47 chancellor's, ADs of the SEC will enforce the following process. If you previously declared for the NFL NBA, WNBA, and did not appropriately withdraw, signed a contract with an NFL or other professional league, NBA, G, league, etc. been listed on or other professional football league,
Starting point is 00:04:08 NBA, G league, or WNBA or affiliate roster, can't play in the league. And Lane Kiffin, polarizing figure. A lot of it's self-inflicted. When there's a headline and it involves college football, you could probably flip a quarter and half the time Lane's going to be involved. And he was not only fully prepared
Starting point is 00:04:28 to sign the tight end from Cleveland, who in fairness played for him at Ole Miss. This isn't just some totally random guy. I think he was prepared to sign a bunch of guys. I think he was going to be very aggressive in this cycle with not even just these 16 guys that were in the Louisiana lawsuit, but it was going to come and it was going to come fast. With a lot of guys from the 22 high school class who get cut here at the end of the week.
Starting point is 00:04:55 I think Lane Kiffin was going to be very, very active. And Kirby Smart went on a rant today of the kind of signaled to me of like, oh, I could see this because he's the lead dog in the conference. Lane's the most polarizing, but that's, That's the, this version of Sabin. I mean, he's got a long way to go to catch him, but he's won multiple national championships. He's in the SEC championship every year.
Starting point is 00:05:17 They're the premium program in the conference. And he said, we're not doing it. And then he kind of went on, I would say, an admirable rant about like, I value what everyone has done for me the last, you know, starting when we first start working out early in February as a team, just working out and running gassers, up until where we're at now.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Now, in fairness, Kirby has built this program for a decade plus, right? Lane just showed up. He brought in like 41 new guys. He doesn't give a shit. DGAF is Lane Kiffin. And I've said forever, like, you need rules and regulations. Think about society. Like, you can't just cut me off and then I shoot you and I just drive home, right?
Starting point is 00:06:03 We have rules and everything we do. Whether it's extreme like that or just you go in the grocery store, you get seven items and it costs $80, you got to give them $80. You can't just walk out of the store, well at least where I live. And I just think rules and regulations are very, very important for a civilized society. Rules and regulations are very, very important for professional sports. This is why the Kauai Leonard thing became such an explosive topic. Because even though it's like, well, is everyone kind of doing it?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Was he just blatantly running a giant, Fugazi to just pump Kauai money. And I think the reason that people, it's not like they had won three of the last four championships, but it was like, what is going on? And I think in Balmer's mind, in the business world, if he wanted an employee, there was never a salary cap on an employee. So it's probably been a tough transition for him of like, you can only pay this guy this much money, even though him and his uncle are asking for more.
Starting point is 00:07:04 And college football has always been like that, right? Can't pay the players. well all the top programs are paying them under the table. And everyone knew it. Jay Billis has been ranting for this for years. How shitty the NCAA is. And listen, I'm not going to argue with them on that fact. But these players are getting screwed.
Starting point is 00:07:21 It's like, everyone knows Coach Kay started paying players in the early 2000s. Remember, it's like, Coach Kay won't do the one and duns. And then he started. And then what happened? They started getting all the best players and winning big. Now, do the guys, does Cooper Flag make more than some of the guys 20 years ago? Of course. Were those guys underpaid, even though they were paid under the table,
Starting point is 00:07:40 what their market value would be? 100%. But like, you have to have rules and regulations to run a viable organization when you have a bunch of other partners who are in business together, but they're all competing against each other. That's what makes this unique. Right? Google, Facebook, and Apple aren't under the same umbrella.
Starting point is 00:08:01 Right? They're just competing against each other. They're not also in business with each other, under a conference or under some umbrella of a co-op, right? They're individual entities. Like at the end of the day, Alabama and LSU and Georgia and Florida and Texas, they're all in business together. It's a crazy thing about like getting in the Tesla.
Starting point is 00:08:24 You look up, it's pretty clear to see who Elon is in business with. Spotify, Apple, right? It's all up on my screen. And certain apps I can't get on my screen. So it's like, oh, they're in business with Tesla. they're not. So when I'm in business with you, like we are motivated to do things a certain way if we want to remain, I would just say as civilized, because part of this is football is just barbaric by nature, the violence of the sport. But coaches, like, this goes back to the sign
Starting point is 00:09:01 stealing, whether it's Jim Harbaugh or Bill Belichick, the nature. The nature of the sport, of the sport is to do everything humanly possible to gain an advantage. So people are always, their jaw heads the floor when someone does just that. I've never been shocked. Now granted, I've been around it closer than most
Starting point is 00:09:20 at the highest level, so I've seen it's like yeah, everyone's doing it. Now, is there a line? Well, is it all illegal or is like that more illegal than something else? And listen, we get into that in the business world all the time. It's like, well, technically that's not illegal, but if you do that, you're going
Starting point is 00:09:36 to jail for fraud. I was like, whoa, probably shouldn't do that then. It's like, you know, you're talking to your account and he's like, yeah, you can probably do that? And like, well, can you do this? He's like, ah, I don't think you can't do that. If you get it audited, we got problems. But you can definitely do this. Like, okay, do that. And that's kind of what football is. There's a lot of gray area. Just like in the NFL. You remember like free agency starts on the 15th? Yet the moment the tampering period opens, all the deals are announced. It's like, I thought they could just negotiate now. No, they started negotiating two weeks ago. But at the end of the day, everyone's abiding by those rules. Everyone understands and everyone rose in the same direction.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So, Howie Roseman is not surprised when Les Need or John Snyder or Jason Light or Jerry Jones. You know, they're talking to agents at the combine about potential deals. That is the business. You either play in those waters or you sit on the sideline and get lapped. And I said all along, You can't expect these coaches to not play in this gray area. Some of them will have some morals. It's easy for Dan Langing and Kirby Smart to have those morals. Lane, one, doesn't have them. And two, he's in a new spot where there is a ton of pressure.
Starting point is 00:10:46 The crazy part about this job for Lane, like, he can't just go like eight and four year one and everything's cool. No, I don't think he needs to go 12 and 0, but like, it would behoove him to go 10 and 2 this year just be like the 10th seed in the playoffs, even if he's won and done, to get some momentum going. Because there is a ton of pressure on this program to begin with.
Starting point is 00:11:09 They're spending a bunch of money. And the way that he's just going to operate when it comes to the transfer portal, which he was known as the transfer portal king. So typically early adopters, I would say, are guys that are willing to push the envelope. Which are the type people that I like, which are the type people that I admire.
Starting point is 00:11:25 But sometimes those people, when they're operating in the gray, put themselves in weird situations. And in fairness to Lane, like, these were the rules. These guys could come back. That's why the commissioners, the NCAA was never going to do it, and the courts were never going to rule on your side. The commissioners were going to have to drop the hammer. And I'll work together.
Starting point is 00:11:44 And I get they're always at each other's throats, which is crazy because in the NFL, like, everyone's working together. Why? Because they're all getting filthy rich. Whether you win three games or whether you win 17 games, they all want the league to thrive. They all are vested. No different than players. You see players when a player gets paid.
Starting point is 00:12:04 A lot of guys take a lot of pride throughout the league. They get excited. They get... Most people don't resent the other guy's success in the NFL. They root for it because that means good things for them. A rising tide lifts all boats. And everyone's rowing in the right direction. We're in college football.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You got this guy going left. You got this guy going right. You got this guy over here. And they're all doing weird shit. So I just, cooler heads prevailed. Now, at the end of the day, The dude from the Browns that was coming back, like, he's not an NFL player. He's got an opportunity to play in camp.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Like, he probably wasn't even going to make a practice squad. That one doesn't bother me. But there probably was going to be a guy that, like, turned down a practice squad spot, which he's a broken ankle or a torn shoulder away from playing an NFL games. He's literally on the roster, which start getting in some murky water. It's like one day you're just at practice, reping against Miles Garrett and getting coached by Sean McVeigh. day you're playing for Lincoln Riley, that gets a little weird. I understand why these coaches are a little uncomfortable with it. And the commissioners are just not going to allow it. The SEC
Starting point is 00:13:11 is involved. Notre Dame joined these two conferences. They're involved. Dan Lanning was adamant and, you know, we ain't doing it. We'll see the Big 12. I can see Texas Tech dabbling. I know a Big 10 program who's a top 25 program who had planned on bringing multiple guys back. Clearly this is out of their control now. And who knows? I don't know if these players are now going to sue the conferences, how this goes,
Starting point is 00:13:35 but there has to be leadership's extremely important. Right? Like one day when Jack's 10 and 12 and 14, it is incumbent on me to teach him right from wrong. To teach him the basic life skills of working hard. If you're going to start something,
Starting point is 00:13:53 finish it. If you're playing in a sport, like if you're going to start it, you don't just get to half ass it or we ain't fucking showing. showing up. Just some basic, like, that's on me, not on him. Now, once he's 20 or 25, like, that's on him. But early on, like, I am the guy that has to show him the fucking way. That's, that's incumbent upon me. Just like it's like the Jed York thing. Like, it's on Roger
Starting point is 00:14:18 Godell to handle that situation. That's his job. And in all of our situations, in all of our roles in all of our professions, there has to be some hierarchy of leadership that make some tough decisions or make decisions that feel pretty black and white but are just in a gray area. And someone goes, no more. We're not doing this anymore. And this to me was an easy one from the commissioners. It really is.
Starting point is 00:14:48 And I think moving forward, all these guys now have five years to play five seasons. because before you had five years to play four. Now you got five years to play five, cashed in as much as you can, and then get yourself ready for the NFL. And a small percentage of these guys in college will go on to play in the NFL. And even the small percentage of those guys that get opportunities in the NFL won't make it long.
Starting point is 00:15:15 So it's a very cutthroat sport. It's a very cutthroat business. Take advantage of your situations, but I just don't blame Lane. I really don't. because it's not like he just created this out of thin air. This happened, he pivoted to it. Other coaches, it's easy for them to claim.
Starting point is 00:15:31 I'm above it. Not my thing. Well, it's like, yeah, you don't necessarily need to do that. Lane's probably looking at half his team. Like, I don't even know these guys. They're not good enough. We've got to get better. Which is honestly a reflection of Brian Kelly,
Starting point is 00:15:43 who all-time ski-ass team right now. I mean, you talk about a guy Robin, Louisiana. Holy shit. So now we're not going to see any of these guys coming from training camp to any of these colleges. Unless there's some other injunction, I'm no legal analyst here, but it feels like these things
Starting point is 00:16:02 always just keep growing in the court system, which I think people are exhausted with. You know, it's just, there gets to a point where people just want some clarity. Like, this is what you can do, this is what you can't do. Like, it's very clear.
Starting point is 00:16:16 Like, I signed a three-year contract with Tampa Bay. I have two of those three years guaranteed. I'm on the team, first two years. But as a player, I got to prove that I'm worthy to stay on the third year. And if I'm good enough, maybe they'll extend me after two years to keep that contract rolling. But it's pretty clear, even with the contracts being somewhat open-ended because of the guaranteed money is not what these other sports are. Everyone kind of knows where they stand.
Starting point is 00:16:43 And in college football, it feels like no one ever knows where they stand. Like, this guy going to be on my team? Is this guy going to go somewhere else? Is this guy going to go pro and then come back? Too much of that. And it's got to the point. point where my issue with college football as someone that loves the sport is the conversation around it like the NFL has the perfect balance. Ultimately all this stuff is entertainment.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Is there's enough Jed York and a trailer park hooker? There's enough Rusini and Vrable to go along with like, is J.J. McCarthy not going to make the Vikings? Is Cam Ward any good? Is Joe Burrow and the Bengals finally going to figure it out?
Starting point is 00:17:23 What's up with Daniel Jones? Like, can Jalen Hertz play in this offense? And I think so much of college football is not about the sport. Like Alabama just named this awesome five-star guy. And it's like, well, are they going to sign another three guys from training camps? Is DeBore's GM evaluating the NFC South practice squad? It's like, what are we fucking talking about? But that's a huge, we're going to go to 24 teams, we're going to go to 48 teams.
Starting point is 00:17:50 The NCAA tournament going to turn into a 7th. 700 teams, it's just always this stuff where it's just, it gets to the point where some of it's cool. And then you, you pass a threshold where it feels exhausting. And when you get a guy like me who does it's for a living, who loves this, would be doing it, whether I did it for a living or not, be watching all this stuff. When I feel like, can you guys just figure it out? Can you guys just get some semblance of an organized idea and just move forward where everyone's kind of rowing in the same direction? And these feel very, very rare. We're just like everyone's on the same page.
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Starting point is 00:21:08 it used to be with the old playoff format it was three I think now it's like four, three and a half because the playoffs expanded with the two extra wild cards one in each conference is you know there's turnover. I mean think about last year.
Starting point is 00:21:23 The Chiefs and the Ravens missed the playoffs. What you say? The Chiefs and the Ravens missed the playoffs. The Lions who had been the one seed the previous year miss the playoffs. The Vikings who were 60 minutes away from being the one team missed the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:21:38 It's the best part about the NFL is there are some shitty teams, right? But I would say the top, definitely the top 15, but depending on the year, depending on health, you could have 20 teams, like legitimately in the mix.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And if you make a playoff game, like this ain't a seven game series. One game, 60 minutes, your quarterback plays bad, someone gets injured, weird things happen. and I wrote down these five teams that I just think could be major players this year. Obviously, number one, to me, is an easy one. A little scare today.
Starting point is 00:22:15 I was like, do I got to get off these guys? For a split second, it looked. Jamar Chase blew out his knee. His entire leg just was fucked. Okay. You know the best part about being a genetic freak is, I remember, I was probably, Probably like 25. I came from the Bay Area, went to my parents' house.
Starting point is 00:22:37 And they had a lab, Callie, who's died. And my brother, who works in the area, often used to drop his dog off, now lives in the area. So dog's always over there too. And anyone that has a lab, they could chase the ball all day long. And I remember throwing the ball and trying to beat, I forget if it was Callie or Bailey, trying to beat her to the ball. My mom had like a brick bench. It's probably three feet high.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So I'm in a full sprint, I had to jump it. Well, when I jump it, I land on my, you know, just on my feet, but in kind of a pothole and I roll my ankle. I swear to God I couldn't walk normal for like two months. I mean, some guys, and you see these freak athletes, they get injured. And it's like, you freak out.
Starting point is 00:23:30 first, because I don't care what it is, it's a jolting feeling, and then they like shake it off and they're good. I mean, Adrian Peterson wants towards ACL and was back like three months later. I think won the MVP the next year. It's like, what? It's like, yeah. And this was before the peptides existed. I mean, this is just like, I'm a freak. He's probably eating McDonald's. It didn't even matter. I just think the Bengals, their upside for this team is so high. The dominant, dominant, dynamic wide receiver group. I mean, you could make the argument that Jamar is the best wide receiver in the league. T. Higgins, I guess what's his pickings in Dallas, but Higgins has to be definitely a top
Starting point is 00:24:06 three number two. I mean, Burrow, when he's on. Now, the key is he's got to stay on the field. Their offensive line is not as bad as people think. And the number one thing is, like, their defense two years ago when they were the hottest team in the league and they went nine and eight, but they started so shitty and they missed the playoffs. Like, that is the version of the offense mixed with a defense that just should be better. There was a clip I saw went viral yesterday of Dexter Lawrence.
Starting point is 00:24:30 I don't know if he didn't see him till late or he actually shoved him, but he ran into Samaji Pryne, who feels like he's been in the NFL forever, former Oklahoma running back, who's not small. And this dude, he thought all the life came out of his body. Like,
Starting point is 00:24:46 I think Dexter Lawrence is going to be a monster this season. I think the Bengals are going to be really good. The other team that, like, every single year, once Lamar got there, it's like, Ravens are a playoff team. Ravens are a playoff team. I mean, a couple years ago,
Starting point is 00:24:59 they were the best team in the league up until they weren't in the AFC championship game. But you fire a coach after 18 years. And every quote I see coming out of Baltimore is like, Lamar is invigorated. This offense is awesome. The cohesion of the coaches. And I've been hearing about Jesse Minter forever. One thing is with the Baltimore Harbaugh brother, like those defensive coordinators, their names game steamed like Mike McDonald,
Starting point is 00:25:26 Jesse Minter. The one thing is Mike's first year, in Seattle, you know, everyone forgets because they're Super Bowl champ, they're on hard-knocking, like they did miss the playoffs. Now, granted, his quarterback was Gino Smith, but it took him a year. Now, got a new offensive coordinator,
Starting point is 00:25:42 had to change some things. And a lot like Baltimore, like, very heavy-handed, I would say their personalities are way different, Schneider and DeCosta. But, I mean, two of the highest-regarded personnel guys in the league, two of, I would say, on a short list of GMs
Starting point is 00:26:02 with as much juice as any GM in the league. So this is not a job where he's coming in. Like you watch John Harbaugh press conferences, you're like, that guy's in charge of fucking everything. You know, when John says jump, everyone looking at him, executive assistants, GM, players, trainer, they all say how high.
Starting point is 00:26:23 That's not the case with Jesse Minter. So there is some growing pains with some of these younger coaches. I just don't know. Like, I probably, I still haven't quite decided, probably gonna pick them to miss. If you told me the Ravens win 12 games, believe you. If you told me they went 8 and 9 again, I believe you.
Starting point is 00:26:39 They to me are, like to me Cincinnati is not a wild card. If Joe Burroughs playing, they're in the playoffs. To me, the Ravens are just a pretty big swing team. Partly because an offensive coordinator, never called plays. First guy technically from the Ben Johnson tree, which is cool. fascinated to watch, Ben Johnson's, like, kind of tree grow.
Starting point is 00:27:03 But sometimes, like, not every Shanahan McVeigh guy did well. Bobby Slowick, got fired. Mike LaFleur, who's now in Arizona, got fired from Sala. Now, granted, they didn't have Lamar Jackson. But, like, you just never know. Things can get weird. Things can get weird fast. I don't even, I just think Baltimore's one of the biggest wild cards in the league.
Starting point is 00:27:23 Another team that is less of a wild card, because over the course, over the aggregate, they have been underwhelming every single time when it mattered the most. But last year, Indianapolis was legitimately Aiden to and they had up to that point, I think statistically, again, numbers are inflated now. I think like the greatest offense of all time. But in fairness to them, you watched them
Starting point is 00:27:48 when Daniel Jones is healthy, it passed the eye test. Now we got some questions, right? Alex Pierce, this ankle off-season surgery thing. They signed Keenan Allen. let's just assume Pierce is back, full go, which is hard to do when a guy misses that much training camp time. I think Warren, I don't know if he's back in practice. I know he had to leave practice,
Starting point is 00:28:07 but I think by all accounts, he's going to be okay. You get Alex Pierce healthy. You get Keenan Allen that could catch you 60 to 70 balls, no problem. Tyler Warren is just, I mean, you and I could throw on footballs. Jonathan Taylor, one of the best running backs in the league. Their offensive line is good. We've seen Shane Steichen when his quarterback plays well. Defensively, some question marks.
Starting point is 00:28:27 but like I would not show. I'm kind of leaning and picking the Colts to make the playoffs. I really am. Now, I'm betting on Daniel Jones coming back from the Achilles. It's kind of crazy when you kind of start talking it out. Because the other team I was going to list here, but they made the playoffs last year would be the Texans. But their wild card really is more like,
Starting point is 00:28:46 if CJ just plays well, they might be in the Super Bowl, right? I mean, the Indy just never makes the playoffs. And Chris Ballard's on the last year of his contract. You know, if they miss the playoffs, is everyone getting fired there, and then you're just stuck with this Daniel Jones contract. It's just a lot going on there, which it's either going to go well.
Starting point is 00:29:06 Like, there's not, like, if the Ravens miss the playoffs, Jesse Minter is not getting fired, unless they won, like, two games, right? But Indy, that is a, like CINC. It's like playoffs are bused, fellas. Fair or not, fair or not. Number four, the Lions. There's definitely not a team in the league
Starting point is 00:29:25 with a better core of young star players. And they're all the most important positions. Left tackle, wide receiver, pass rusher, running back, tight end, linebacker. Safety is healthy, safety. Now, a corner is a premium position they don't have. A lot of question marks at corner. So, which if you can't cover anybody, it's hard to be a good defense. And I don't think the Lions are going to be a good defense.
Starting point is 00:29:50 But if they can be middle of the pack, anyone, and part of it is, I got more, Multiple TVs, I have to watch all the games. Cardinal games the last couple weeks. I mean, I don't think they won a game like the last two months of the season. But I swear to God, in a lot of those games, Jacoby was slinging that pill around. And the offense looked pretty explosive. Jacoby actually is like a shittier version of Goff.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Can't really move. No mobility. True pocket quarterback. If you can make Jacoby through 23 touchdowns on a team that was atrocious, could Goff be a sleeper MVP? I got to look at the odds, but like, could Goff have a 44 touchdown season and they win 12, 13 games?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Dan Campbell's one of those guys over the years who's really grown on me. Every time I see an interview with him, I like him more. I think the Lions are a team. They had those two years. I mean, really, they got to, he's got to lose a little sleep over the NFC championship game against the 49ers
Starting point is 00:30:49 when he just wouldn't kick the field goals and he kept going for it. He had a chance to go up, I think, was it 27? to seven. It's like you're going up three scores in the NFC championship game. This isn't week seven. There's a finite amount of time in the season. Like you got 30 minutes left. It's just do the math. If you just get a couple first downs and don't turn the ball over, you'll get to a point where it's like statistically impossible for them to come back. But he didn't. And it kind of bit him in the ass.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Now I don't, his style is why they've been consistently good. I mean the Detroit Lions had a god-awful season and they went nine and eight. The Detroit Lions. most of my life, if they had a god-awful season, they would have been drafting third overall. So he has raised the bar. I think the lion's gonna be really, really good. And last of a least, maybe this is a little like,
Starting point is 00:31:37 because I'm high on this team, but I think the Dallas Cowboys. Their offense, the way they talk, this is a thing with the NFL. It sometimes you can get like a perception about you as a player because the league is so small, everyone knows each other. It's so public, all the information.
Starting point is 00:31:55 gets out and we just think like loser wouldn't touch that guy. And that's what I thought about George Pickens. I'm like I wouldn't mess with him. Now is he, is he Larry Fitzgerald or Jerry Rice? No. I mean you got to deal with some stuff. Even last year. There were a couple games like, is he even trying?
Starting point is 00:32:12 But if you read the quotes coming out of practice and even C.D. Lambs like yeah, he has the talent to be the best wide receiver in the league. He's their number two. Their offense is going to be awesome. It's just about the defense. And you hire Christian Parker, who's you know, kind of been, you know, had a front row seat with Vic Fangio.
Starting point is 00:32:31 They gave him a bunch of young pieces, but even they were able to add some veterans with the Quinn and Williams move. Obviously, get Caleb Downs, who honestly feels more like a vet than a rookie. I think he's going to be exceptional. See how the corners hold up. I mean, past defense last year was an embarrassment. But half the battle was they couldn't even, when they fired Iberflus and hire Christian Park, and one thing Jerry was like, yeah, we just couldn't even get lined up.
Starting point is 00:32:55 people didn't even know what they were doing. I mean, you talk about another all-skeem-ass team, I mean, what the fuck is that guy doing? But I think the Cowboys, a lot like Indy, if you told me the Cowboys went 7 and 10, wouldn't be shocked. If you told me they went 12 and 5, wouldn't be shocked. Their variance is extremely high.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Like, there are some teams, their variance isn't that high. Like the Browns, the Dolphins, their variance isn't that high. Three to six, right? the Broncos, their variance isn't that high. 11 to 13, you know, in terms of wins. Teams like the Cowboys, the Colts, like if things got bad, could it just unravel? Probably more likely with Indy than Dallas because of DAC.
Starting point is 00:33:41 But so to me, teams had missed the playoffs last year who just massive wild cards could just be like, I mean, some of these teams could be like Super Bowl contenders. Sincy, the Lions, if all went right in Baltimore, obviously they could be really good. But to me, I like Baltimore the least out of those three teams. And then Indy and Dallas. Before we do a mailbag question, Dolly Parton died today at 80 years old. Remember just a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Was it last year or two years ago? She was at the halftime show of the Dallas Cowboy game. And look fantastic for like 78. You're like, she's still pretty hot. I've just having lived in two different eras in my life I always appreciate
Starting point is 00:34:30 and I'm going to sound like old band get off my lawn but there is if you were going to be in the music business in the 70s the 80s the 90s you had to have talent you had to be able to sing and like Pat McAfee
Starting point is 00:34:47 just put out an album it's all auto tune and listen I I grew up in a day and age where if you fucking could rap, you heard exactly what they sounded like. The mumble rap thing, it's like, is this even the person? Like, what is going on here? I love country music.
Starting point is 00:35:05 A lot of newfound, more famous country musicians over the last five, ten years can't sing. But they look the part. You can create their voice in the studio and produce it the right way so they sound better. but then you watch them in a live performance on YouTube. You're like, this guy sounds like shit. You couldn't fake it in the 90s.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You couldn't fake it in the 80s. You could either singer you couldn't. And also, whether you were an actor, whether you were a singer, whether you were whoever, fame pre-internet was kind of earned. And nowadays, fame is so fragmented that, you know, people could feel really, really famous in my world
Starting point is 00:35:48 and you could meet someone else and they would never have heard of them. You wouldn't be able to talk to someone in the mid-90s and say the word Dolly Parton and everyone would have known exactly who you were talking about. And that power pre-internet meant like, you were a really big deal. And her story's pretty well documented.
Starting point is 00:36:08 I mean, she grew up in a family. I think of like 11 kids in, you know, a place, I think in Tennessee, they didn't have water, they didn't have electricity. and at one point in time, I remember seeing she was worth like over $500 million. So, I mean, she was an incredible businesswoman. And I think the number one thing,
Starting point is 00:36:30 you see some of these clips of she used to do these duets with Kenny Rogers, who she's certain people as, I would say, stars are just the total package. I remember Bill Simmons wrote something when Whitney Houston died. And Whitney Houston is a great example. Like, it's sad what the drugs derailed her life. But like, when you think of a singer, a female singer, she checked every box. Gorgeous, incredible voice, just gregarious personality, smile that you couldn't meet a human on this planet that wouldn't find her attractive. She could act, you know, there was nothing she couldn't do.
Starting point is 00:37:15 When she walked into a room, everyone looked. and like listen Taylor Swift is the biggest I would say act female wise on the planet I wouldn't say she's like a 10 you know you see some of these clips
Starting point is 00:37:31 from Dolly when she was in her 30s and 40s you're like holy shit I know as she got older all the plastic surgery and stuff trying to maintain it but just just watch some of her stuff in like the 70s and 80s her voice will blow you away
Starting point is 00:37:44 and I'm not trying to talk shit about Taylor Swift like Taylor Swift it's not bad looking but like some of these singing icons of my life were like drop-dead gorgeous that could sing and I mean Taylor could sing
Starting point is 00:37:58 and she's a very talented musician but I would just say Dolly Parton was just kind of a one-on and you just see some of these people that die that were just uber famous in the pre-internet era
Starting point is 00:38:11 it just it feels like a piece of that we're just slowly and slowly losing it like Jack, once he comes to, will never even, that era will feel like, to me, the 30s and the 40s. It's just, it's kind of crazy,
Starting point is 00:38:26 but it just kind of is what it is. So RIP to Dolly Parton, who just was a star, man. Fuck, she could play up until she was in her late 70s in NFL games. Get Bell, Pure Fiber Internet with Crave, Netflix, and Disney Plus. From $94 a month, price guaranteed for two years on Internet,
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Starting point is 00:39:11 I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up. say anything. Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:39:55 Hey, this is Hayes Davenport. And Sean Clements. We host the podcast Hollywood Handbook on the Big Money Players Network. Our show is extremely accessible to first-time listeners. Each week, we talk to someone in show business, aka the biz, and try to help them with their careers and see what they have to offer us. Everyone has a good time, and no one gets mad at their publicists for letting them do our show. We've had a lot of great guests like Sarah Sherman, not that great.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Actually, can you help me shape this? How about we flip it on his head, right? How about we flip this script? What is the surprise woman? Actually, you think is the straight man is actually the one who's acting weird. Adam Scott. This entire time, you've been expecting Adam Sandler to come to visit the show. I would never expect.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I would never set expectations for something like that to happen. If the universe allows for something like that to happen, I'm open to it. I'm always going to accept. You know, Danny McBride, fine. Yeah, it's all this fragile masculinity exuding. I could smell it walking on the hallway, to be honest with you. I was like, is that weed? Nope, it's fragile masculinity.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Ben Stiller, no. Because a lot of times, out of context, people don't get it or even know what a circle is. circle is. You know what I mean? They're like, oh, what's just a state. Everyone's so dumb. And fake. Right. Fake and also not interested or just like, oh, I've got my life. I don't
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Starting point is 00:41:43 Let's do some al-back questions. At John Middlecoff, at John Middlecoff is the Instagram fire and those DMs get your questions answered here on the show. We'll start with Drew. How do you think AI is currently used inside the NFL? How much of an advantage do you think it creates
Starting point is 00:41:57 for an OC or DC that knows how to use it versus one that doesn't? It's a good question. I would imagine a lot of these teams, the technology in general, of being able to press a button like, you're playing a team week four. They have,
Starting point is 00:42:17 they just signed a guy and he's played 17 games over the course the last couple years and bounce around. You could just press two buttons and bring up every one of his targets to just scout him.
Starting point is 00:42:29 Stuff like, college too. So that technology has already been there. I don't know if that would encompass AI. I think it's probably more prevalent. Like the technology they've been using in the NFL for game planning. has been pretty high level for a while,
Starting point is 00:42:46 I would imagine it helps scouts more. Like, I would just use it on any guy I had question marks, like bring up every article that's been written on so-and-so. You could just prompt Chad GPT or chat, whatever, you know, Gemina, whatever one you use on individual players to just mine information, especially when you have question marks on guys. And you don't want to miss something.
Starting point is 00:43:10 So I actually think it probably happens more in the scouting world than it does, and I could be wrong, maybe I'm out of touch, but on like a weekly game plan standpoint. But I don't pretend to, you know, I use it more for question queries, right? I would say the highest level thing I've ever used it essentially as my lawyer, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:31 when I'm working on contracts, I'll use my chat assistant. And I'll just prompt him with a bunch of questions and have a breakdown and kind of lead me and that go through that. But a lot of it's just like, name me the last seven years the amount of practice squad guys that started on a team week one how many of those guys played in a regular season game as a rookie and then it'll bring you up
Starting point is 00:43:54 37% the guy that's what I use it for so I'm probably not the best uh person to ask because a lot of you maybe for your jobs you use it much much more I mean my wife before Jack was born was using it heavily you know and in just write-ups on MLS, write-ups on Instagram posts. It's a powerful tool. There's no doubt. And it feels like it's only getting better. My question is,
Starting point is 00:44:21 when you were a scout, what were some specific traits that you saw when watching tape on late round players that convince guys that a low-rank prospect would succeed in the pros? Also, how are disagreements
Starting point is 00:44:36 between a GM and coaching staff, scouts handled on drafts, night when it comes to drafting a player. I would say it depends on the position, right? Some wide receivers that don't have much production run great routes, but their quarterback sucks and they never get thrown the ball. Or you just watch a guy and he can fly, but he's not that strong and he's tackled easy,
Starting point is 00:45:06 but he's a 4-2 guy. I'm just using that example, right? Some guys, an offensive lineman may not meet the measurables, maybe a little shorter, shorter arms, not work out as well. But he's tough as shit, plays his ass off, actually is much stronger functionally than you would think based on his body. Some pass rushers, right, like a D-end, who's a little undersized, who can't play the run,
Starting point is 00:45:34 but is an elite speed rush guy. You're like, hey, we can take this guy in the sixth round. He can play special teams and put him in, some third downs. So I think there are specific attributes that a guy has with a ton of weaknesses.
Starting point is 00:45:49 And you just ask yourself, like, you fall farther and farther the more weaknesses you have or more question marks you have. Like a guy goes top 10, there aren't going to be as many question marks as the guy that goes in the fifth round. But that guy in the fifth round,
Starting point is 00:46:06 maybe, let's use an example, like he's a linebacker who led the team in tackles and led his conference in tackles. But he's kind of short. He didn't run that fast. He only was a starter for one year. And what else?
Starting point is 00:46:26 Maybe he started at a bad, you know, like a small, small program. So he wasn't a blue-chip guy, small recruit, one-year production, does not meet any of the measurables. His workout's not great, but you throw on the tape
Starting point is 00:46:39 and he can just play. So you're like, some teams don't mess with guys like that. Like historically the Ravens, the Giants, like they're big on measurables. And some teams like, Andy Reid, like, can you play or can't you play? Some teams are more liberal
Starting point is 00:46:54 when it comes to that. Right, so it depends on the franchise. Like, look at the defensive linemen that John Schneider likes. Not a lot of tiny guys. Murphy's shorter, but he's a little blue-christ. player. You know, it's like
Starting point is 00:47:10 some Pete Carroll. Like, if you could be the best corner in the history of football. If you were 5'9, he wasn't going to mess with you. So some teams have specific requirements. You also got to factor that in. So if you have coaching staves
Starting point is 00:47:26 and schemes that need specific traits, like sometimes you won't even, I mean, most, you'll end up writing the guy up, but you won't pursue the player because it wouldn't fit with what your coaches want. And ideally in that scenario, it's like, you have coaches that know what they're doing.
Starting point is 00:47:44 Because it's like, well, I think our coaching staff sucks. Why don't we like this guy? Do you think coaches and GMs will factor into the legal decision allowing players to go back to college into keeping some of the fringe players on their roster instead of putting them on practice squad? Well, before the rule came out, I would imagine it was considered a little bit. I think it's more being very upfront with the agent. and if you are a credible GM or a head coach,
Starting point is 00:48:13 and you've worked with Drew Rosenhaus or Mugeta or whoever these guys, the top agents, and you go, listen, we've done business together for 15 years. I'm telling you, we've got to cut them, and we're going to put them on the practice squad, but we love this guy. We just drafted him the seventh round. I believe in this guy. I want this guy to be part of our operation moving forward.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And I think that would be considered, for sure. It's like anything. You know, communication, whether you got your wife, whether a business partner in a situation like this with an agent and a player, if you are completely honest and up front and you have a history of what you say is what you do, I think there would definitely be guys. Before this all went down,
Starting point is 00:48:59 I kept thinking that there were going to be players that were going to choose the practice squad over returning to Clemson or Florida State or Alabama. Listen, I've done that for a couple years. I'm here. These coaches like me. I'm one snap away from getting elevated. I don't think it would have been a lock 100% guys' bounds.
Starting point is 00:49:19 Especially if you can cook the books with practice squad guys too. You can pay them more. So if I really liked you, you could show it with three reactions. It's like if you really like me, give me a little bit more. I think a lot of guys and agents would have used it as a negotiating tactic. Like my guy wants to say, he just needs a little more cash. and that's business trust me
Starting point is 00:49:42 I've been in spots where I had no leverage and it was like hey we're gonna pay you how he's like we're gonna give you 40 grand I'm like deal you know
Starting point is 00:49:49 radio station we're gonna give you a 65 grand deal you don't even there's no negotiation you just accept what they give you it's funny you look back at your life
Starting point is 00:50:01 sometimes and you laugh but sometimes you got to be in those positions and I was as hungry as I've ever been in those scenarios it wasn't even about
Starting point is 00:50:10 the money. The money was irrelevant. Money was just used to pay my rent. Give me a couple beers. Help me survive. While I'm here for the Jed jokes, does his $160 faux pa reveal how cheap he actually is and show us that the Niners will never move their practice facility or the substation as long as he is the owner? Uh, it's a good question.
Starting point is 00:50:39 I, uh, I don't even know. I don't think it reflects his cheapness. I'm going to assume this. Like he's, I'm going to assume he's never been to a trailer park before for sex. He's getting a divorce, which he filed,
Starting point is 00:50:58 which he filed. So could you, of his wife of 15 years, they got two kids. Could you imagine that something nefarious went on that forced him to file it? If you follow that road, you go, he then could be in a really bad spot.
Starting point is 00:51:13 So then you're not in a great spot mentally. Now, I think when you run in the circles he runs, like Ethan Strauss for a really good substack today. Jed York's not getting crushed by 99% of us because we give a shit about hookers. I don't know anyone that cares. Obviously, our wives and stuff, I don't mean like married men getting hookers.
Starting point is 00:51:36 I just mean like if a single guy, a divorcee guy wants to get a hooker, I don't care. As long as the person's above age, she's a consensual adult. I'm pro. You know, Amsterdam's been doing it forever. Vegas, I don't think it's technically illegal,
Starting point is 00:51:50 but clearly no one gives a shit there. And all these owners, players, coaches, like he ain't alone in the world of the NFL dabbling with paying for sex. And what did Charlie Sheetan say? I don't pay for the sex. I pay her to leave.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Is clearly Jed's kind of lonely. Now, I have a hard time wrapping my brain around being, you know, Jed's not 90. Like sometimes my mom doesn't realize it's a group text or just we're texting her. Like I, she's confused about some stuff. She's pretty close to 80. Like very understandable.
Starting point is 00:52:28 I had someone tweet at me today like, Middukov, love you, but you saying the Jed was not as serious as Robert Kraft, man. I can't take you seriously. It's like, okay. an 80-year-old man in Palm Beach, I'm pretty sure, which is one of the richest, if not the richest, like 30-mile radiuses in America with a bunch of old guys. If you don't think he ain't alone in that area going to the massage parlor to get a rub and tug. If you're that naive, an 80-year-old man whose wife is dead going to massage parlor,
Starting point is 00:53:07 most people in my life, like, that's, I laugh at that. It's kind of funny, honestly. A 45-year-old going to a trailer park for $140, let's just call it what it is if the person, I mean, the prostitute didn't exist. It was the cop on the other end. But if someone did exist in the trailer park mobile home place for $140 in the middle of Ohio,
Starting point is 00:53:35 like that's kind of a gutter rat hooker. So you're going to a place that you are, know nothing about to get a gutter rat hooker for $140? Like, I'm sorry, that is dramatically worse in my mind. The one's kind of funny. The other one's sad. I mean, that's true. It's just sad.
Starting point is 00:53:53 And the other thing is, I went to jail. You know? I was mentioning this because we had a meeting today for three and out. It didn't quite, I think, sink in till later in the day. Like Tony Romo, right, gets arrested. It's just a mugshot.
Starting point is 00:54:09 You know, Tiger's always getting arrested. Just the mugshot. Jed wasn't a jumpsuit. Like he was fucking in Leavenworth or Alcatraz or Lompoke. It's like he was in an orange jumpsuit because that's what happens when you solicit a prostitute.
Starting point is 00:54:25 In Ohio, I guess the guy that nailed him is like he's like the Tom Brady of nailing dudes going after prostitutes. Because obviously, you know, in those situations it's human trafficking, young chicks. Like it can get really nefarious fast. Craft, Craft situation was with the owner of the business.
Starting point is 00:54:44 She was, I think, like, 45 years old. But yeah, I mean, it's, I think it's, I mean, a little reflection if you're cheap. Because the other thing is like, just get a high-end girlfriend, like escort. Like you run in those circles. You place one call. Here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:55:03 I think with Jed's divorce, he left the Bay Area. He's been living, I think, at his parents' house, if I read it correctly. It's weird. You know, you think 45-year-old, technically the owner of the team. If I was going through a bad divorce, again, I'm a little bit more independent.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Maybe he's not as independent. Like, I'd like my space. I would get my own place. I wouldn't move in with friends or family. But to each his own, I just think it's more like, just sad. That, to me, is my reality. It's just sad.
Starting point is 00:55:35 It's just sad. And obviously he has massive ramifications. He's going to get in big trouble with the league. I mean, if you told me they suspend him for the year, I can believe it. he definitely gets spent it i feel like it's going to be closer from 10 games to the year than it is like four the substation thing the only way area i will defend him on that
Starting point is 00:55:59 is they've been practicing there since bill walsh now granted that thing is grown and you're some of these like delaney walkers like sometimes we look over there and trees are dead the grass is kind of dead over there real estate's expensive that's the other problem it's like you know this is still calm valley You can't just get like two football fields for a million dollars. You got to pay premiums. I grew up in the Bay Area and Texas was always and Texas and was a big NFL 49er guy.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I never really watched much college ball because I never had a strong connection to a team. But after I joined the Air Force, appreciate your service, and had a strong connection to the team. But after I joined the Air Force and stationed in Vegas, I started to go to UNLV games because they were cheap and they were fun.
Starting point is 00:56:44 They recently have become a fringe top 25 team. It's been fun to watch. My question is this. Can they ever hope to become anything more than a quote, stepping stone for coaches and players to get bigger programs? The Mountain West isn't a great draw compared to the other big conferences, but I imagine Vegas is appealing.
Starting point is 00:57:02 So they are in this weird middle ground where they are competitive, but not competitive enough to make a playoff run even if they sneak into the playoffs. Are they destined to be a good but never good enough to keep a big time coach or player when a big program comes knocking. I think it's just simple as this.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Even if you remove UNLV, which, you know, they got Dan Mullen, who at one point in time had Mississippi State as a top five program, recruited star players, obviously, you know, Dak Prescott, but Fletcher Cox and Jeffrey Simmons
Starting point is 00:57:36 and a ton of high-level guys. And coached at Florida, like his resume was, And even at Florida, like, people are, I heard someone say the other day, if John Summerall just matches Dan Mullen's record the first three years, he'll be in pretty good shape. Like, Dan Mullen's a real coach. Dan Mullen's a power four coach. He got destroyed at Florida because people thought he hated recruiting, which in the SEC,
Starting point is 00:58:06 when they start thinking you hate recruiting, it's like the equivalent in the NFL when people think you can't scheme. that's it's the equivalent when we think you can't scheme in the NFL people just call you an idiot this guy's a terrible coach in college when word gets out it happened to Hugh Freeze like on the golf course again
Starting point is 00:58:26 you got to be a recruiting junkie or you will get shit on because college football is less about you know once you get good even in UNLV's level like how many teams are going to be as talented as them they play a season two or three right especially in the mountains
Starting point is 00:58:42 in West. But if Dan Mullen makes the playoffs, who's to say that an SEC school won't rehire them or an ACC school or Florida State, Ohio? You know, it's hard to keep guys. I don't know the booster set up at UNLV. Obviously, they play at the Raider Stadium, their college games. But listen, I got my start of Fresno State. The Fresno States, the Boise States, the UNLVs. App State was like this for a long time. Are they now? Is App State in the Big 12? any program not in a power four you got no shot to not be 100% a stepping stone job
Starting point is 00:59:20 and then you even you get to the power four the lower half of the power four those are stepping stone jobs like if PJ Fleck went 12 and 0 this year and won a couple of playoff games the top two or three schools that had openings would immediately interview
Starting point is 00:59:35 so yeah sad to say I remember going there their old stadium was pretty shitty. You probably saw, I mean, UNLV's been bad a lot. You probably saw it's a bad football. A big fan, listening the other day about you talk about the difference
Starting point is 00:59:52 between international soccer television deals and the NFL. So I popped it into Gemini, and here's what I found. Global versus domestic footprint. The Premier League is a worldwide phenomenon and sells its broadcast rights to nearly 200 countries.
Starting point is 01:00:07 However, even its combined global plus domestic total equals less than half of what the NFL pulls in strictly through its U.S. television partners. Would love a mailbag fact drop? Shout out to my group trap and the European mind not being able to comprehend how much better football is than soccer. Let me know how many games the Giants will win this year to make it traditional mailbag. I'll go, Giants go 7 and 10?
Starting point is 01:00:39 7 and 10, but a lot better. maybe 8 and 9 I do not view them as a playoff team Have you seen any of Garrett Nussmeier's highlights I can't believe he fell to the seventh round Do you think he could develop into a starter on another team by learning under Reed and Mahomes for a couple years? I did not see their second game
Starting point is 01:01:00 but I watched clips from the... Listen, Garrett Nussimir's a good player He had some fucking crazy injury last year like in his ab hip or whatever growing that derailed his entire season he couldn't lift so they couldn't run the ball he couldn't lift
Starting point is 01:01:15 he's injured if you watch him two years ago he was really good now is he a first rounder no could Garrett Nussmeyer be like I almost said Gardner Minchie
Starting point is 01:01:26 but he can be a better player than that I don't know if it'll be as good as Alex Smith but he like here's what I would say I actually texted someone who can't see the other day but they like him
Starting point is 01:01:39 a lot and that I actually texted before the games even started. And they're like, bro, he's, he's been awesome at practice. They're huge fans, which shouldn't shock you. Dad's, dad's an offensive coordinator in the NFL. He's a football junkie. He's tough as shit.
Starting point is 01:01:56 I think Garrett Nussmeyer, I was going to say Matt Flynn, which ironically also went to LSU. Matt Shob, like I, I think one day he could turn himself into an NFL starter. But he's playing in the NFL for a long time. as a backup. I mean, look at some of these guys like Davis Mills, Tanner McKee, like he's 100% in that, like he's in the league for a while. Is he ever going to be a consistent starter in the NFL? I don't know. It's a great question. Regarding the York situation, what are the chances two of the NFL's most prominent owners got busted on solicitation? There's not a lot of
Starting point is 01:02:38 these guys, quote, owners, and these aren't incredibly common operations either. So the fact the fact that two got busted within less than a decade means it's more likely than not that these two were probably doing this pretty frequently, just playing the numbers. Well, Robert Kraft didn't get, like, never got arrested or anything. They just busted the place, and if I remember correctly, they just knew that he was there. They didn't bust it when he was in there because he went there the day of the AFC championship game. And it just turned out, like he still was in the AFC. Unless I'm misremembering that situation,
Starting point is 01:03:17 Jed went to jail. Also, Robert didn't call a prostitute. He went into a massage parlor and got a massage that had a happy ending, which, I mean, listen, a lot of these massage parlors are like that, you know. I'm not a huge massage guy. Hot take. I hate massages.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Woman, guy stretching me out. Like, I'm just not really, I like touching my wife, but I don't like getting touched by other people that way. Honestly, I just, I'm not that into it. I've never really understood it. But I, I don't know what to tell you. Do I think a lot of the owners, I think part of the Jed thing that is so jarring. A lot of these rich guys, I'm sure have side girlfriends, or if they're remarried or not married,
Starting point is 01:04:08 have prostitute type women in their life. So, yes, I think it's pretty free. frequent. Do I think most of them would get an internet ad and go to a trailer park? The jolting part about Jed is if you said, hey, Jed York, if you just gave me a scenario, Jed York got a divorce, and he's like dating some call girl. I'm like, yeah, believe it. You know, Mark Davis did call girls forever. Who cares? No one. I mean, I would say Jeffrey Lurie is not exactly a one woman man you know i mean this is it's no one's judging on people's choice of women players too i mean players are bringing side pieces hookers strippers also no one cares but to go to a trailer
Starting point is 01:04:54 park for 140 like that that was the jarring part it's like and clearly just texting the whole time with a cop not having like this feels a little weird so is it the first time he's he's ever done it. If it was, seems pretty crazy. If not, was his, like,
Starting point is 01:05:15 go-to out of town? I don't know. I just think that you'd be very naive, like, paying for women directly or indirectly is a bedrock
Starting point is 01:05:26 of professional sports. So when you watch professional sports, it encompasses all of them. I can't speak for hockey, but basketball, baseball, and football, again,
Starting point is 01:05:37 directly or Indirectly, it is happening. And nobody cares. No one. Do I think... I don't think anyone's doing that. In 2006. What's his name?
Starting point is 01:05:53 For the Falcons, they got caught with a hooker, the night before the Super Bowl, married man of the year. I almost said Ray Farmer, but that was the former Brown's GM. Not Ray Anderson, that was the kicker. Someone will DM me the name of the guy, but it's, yeah, I mean, it's,
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