The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Eagles have a Jalen Hurts problem, Puka Nacua seeks help, Rams-49ers in Australia

Episode Date: April 2, 2026

On this episode, the guys break down the latest Philadelphia Eagles storyline centered around Jalen Hurts and what it could mean for the team heading into the season. They also react to news of Rams wide receiver Puka Nacua checking into rehab, discussing the situation and its potential impact on Los Angeles moving forward. Plus, the NFL’s international expansion continues with the Rams and 49ers set to face off in Australia—what it means for the league, the players, and the global game. The conversation then shifts to the running back market, which appears to be on the rise again, and how shifting value at the position could impact roster building across the NFL. To close things out, the guys react to the viral “NFL Coaches Day Drinking” storyline and weigh in on one of the more entertaining off-field moments around the league. From major headlines to league-wide trends, it’s all covered in this episode. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Volume. What is going on, everybody, John Middlecock, Three and Out podcast? How are we doing everybody? Hopefully you're doing great. I'm doing great because I woke up to The Eagle Story, which was really the talk of the Combine. now it is public and out there. We will dive into that. Something that broke this afternoon.

Puka Nakua has checked himself into rehab, like Tiger Woods. Though his is in Malibu, all reports. Tigers are like going out of the country. A lot of other stuff going on. Kyle Shanahan had some thoughts on McVeigh, forcing them to go to Australia, the running back position making a comeback. And someone had asked me,

because we talked about the coach's photo, we talked about the GM photo, They're like, could you break down the coach's happy hour at the pool? I said, can't I ever? I've watched that video like 15 times. Fascinated by it. Had a million thoughts about it. Wrote some of them down.

So we will do a little scouting report on the positioning on the booze fest that was going on under the sun at a pool. I've actually drank at as well. Great. Bill Moore's got a good pool. If you're ever in that area and want to have a pool day. Even if you're not staying there, you can get a day pass. I remember getting a day pass for like $20. Bars are sweet.

You got to swim up bars. It's a good spot. Highly recommend it. So we'll do that. We'll have another podcast out tomorrow. And then next week, I think the game plan will probably have a master's preview Monday. I'm going to record a bunch of mailbags, probably Friday or Saturday for next week. I'm going to be in L.A. on next week.

Not quite sure on my schedule, so I'm going to record something in the next couple days. So fire in those mailbags if you want to get involved. And you guys know the drill. If you listen on Collins feed, make sure you subscribe to Three and Out. You can check all these videos out, a place called Netflix. Appreciate everyone watching. And let's just dive right into the Eagle story. Now, let's go big picture.

I don't think the timing of this story was random. It's the first thing I thought about when I clicked on it and I read it. And I saw a pro football talk, me and Florio, we might not be aligned on everything, but he was thinking the same thing. This story drops the day after the owner's meetings. What happens at the owners' meetings? Siriani is obligated to talk. How he runs a media session as most general managers do with their local media there. This story was not available, at least publicly, for any of those situations.

Now, for those of us that are, I don't even want to say in the loop, because I've actually never talked to Howie about Jalen Hurts. Never had one conversation with him. Honestly, most of my conversations about where he should go eat in a certain town or BSing with him about something stupid. But I've never discussed Jailen Hurts. So I had no inside information from Howie. I don't know Siriani.

But it was well established at the Combine. And I've admitted to this as well that I felt like, you know, your typical media guy piling on AJ Brown during the season. And I heard some things that obviously AJ's not the easiest got to deal with. Welcome to wide receivers. But when it came to like, if you pulled that locker room, if you said, hey, guys, if we could choose one of the two guys, which one would you choose? I heard it was unanimously AJ Brown. Now, because of the contract, they're stuck with Jalen Hertz, and it's not easy to find another quarterback. But one thing is clear, the bat signal was sent out today.

And here's what we know about the Philadelphia Eagles. Their owner spends a shitload of money. Over the course of like 21, 22, 23, and 24, I think only Jimmy Haslam, which is kind of ironic because they were terrible. For most of it, they didn't make the playoffs one time with Flacco, spent more actual cash, right? We've been talking a lot about this because the GM was like, John, you talk so much about the salary cap. You don't talk enough about cash. There are two separate things. And it separates a lot of these teams.

It's like, this was the crazy part about like the Belichekian run and even the last five or six years with the New England Patriots. Relative to the rest of the league, they don't spend as much cash. Same thing with Jerry Jones. You know, certain teams spend more actual of their own money relative to the salary cap because you can manipulate it than others. and Jeffrey Lurie always has. And the one thing we know about that offense, it is highly paid. Wide receivers, offensive linemen.

I mean, how he's given Sequin Barclay multiple contracts. Forever Goddert was making a ton of money. I think he's making a little less now that they resigned him. But they are paying premiums for the group. And they gave Jalen Hertz a five-year, $255 million contract. And typically, when you are a top, I don't know, 10, 12-ish quarterback. The guaranteed money is kind of a Fugazi,

because you're going to see every fucking penny on the contract. You see it all. Dak Prescott has never not seen, and I'm not even talking about Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, Joe Burroughs. I'm talking that next year, the cousins, the Dax, the Jared Goffs, they see every penny, guaranteeing it on. So when they sign these enormous contracts, it has to be, absolute train wreck, Russell Wilson, Tua, Tanya Bailoa, Kyler Murray, for teams to eat and get rid of you.

Because one, it obviously cripples your cap, which is important because then you can't, you know, maneuver other players underneath when a guy like Tua's taken up a $99 million dead cap hit. Or Kyler Murray's taking up $50 million. You don't want to do that. Next year, Jalen Hertz, let's just say this year is a disaster, is $67 million. I saw someone say, that's manageable. True, because you could spread it out over two years. They don't want to do that.

They just want him to play well. They just want him to be a consistent quarterback. The Eagles are cutthroat. They are a throwback. Bill Walsh, cut you a year before you start diminishing instead of waiting a year too late. Belichick did it forever. Andy, beside Kelsey, has made a career off doing that

because that's what it takes to sustain a good organization. And how he did it with Carson Wentz. They signed him to this massive contract relative to the salary cap and the money and the signing bonuses at the time. Within a couple years, they were pivoting and Jalen Hertz was out of there.

It goes back to the Tom Brady thing with Belichick, why he was always on pins and needles. Because even though he was the greatest quarterback of all time by like the mid-2050, you know, tens, by like 15 and 16, he had seen all of his friends get traded or cut. That first 10 plus years of his career, when they rattled off three Super Bowls,

they went to multiple other, you know, in 2007 and 2011 and lost. Think of how many high-end players, Hall of Famers. He saw either drafted, cut, drafted, traded. Happened to them all. Logan Mankins, Randy Moss, Mike Vrable, these guys, Wes Welker, they were all discarded. Welcome to the NFL. Some of these stories

when a guy in baseball or basketball gets cut, it's like, whoa! It happens every day in football. Happens all the time. With bad organizations, let alone the good ones, because they do not tolerate when your play starts going like this. And when you lead the league in three and outs,

you can blame the offensive coordinator. Jeffrey Lurie's like, we fired a couple of these guys. It can't just be them. It can't just be AJ Brown or Devante Smith or the questionable offensive line, and you start talking to people like, the quarterback frustrated a lot of people. And I think the Eagles are doing this as like,

it's on, man. You either shape up or you shape out. And here's the thing about Jalen Hurts. It's not like, you know, you see some of these stories about something, he's not like a bad guy. He is always in shape. He works hard.

He's extremely serious. But as you could see in there, quarterback is a very nuanced situation. They have a lot of juice. Because even if they don't have carte blanche at the line of scrimmage, they could if they want. They can change a play whenever they want. Think about Russell Wilson.

Started driving the Seattle Seahawks nuts. And for a couple years, like, you know, what are we really going to say? We're winning. Things are going well. It's like we kind of kept our mouth shut. And then by like 2018 and 19, things started coming out.

It was like, yeah, John Snyder was ready to trade him for, to the Browns and draft Josh Allen. You're like, what? And then you're like, what's really going on? And it turns out he was driving them nuts. Because it typically with a quarterback is about two things. Do you play well in what we want you to do and we think you excel at? Because most guys are not like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers are in their prime, like could succeed in most schemes, can handle fucking everything. Most guys are pretty scheme specific and have specific straits that traits that you need them to excel at. And that is Jalen Hurst.

He throws a really good deep ball, is a great athlete, is a great scrambler. Well, what will he no longer do? He won't run. So Jalen Hurts, when he became a really good player, was a dual threat quarterback. Well, he's not a dual threat quarterback anymore. He's just a passer.

And we've seen him as a pocket passer. It's not great. And they led the league in three-in-outs. Like, that's not just the play caller. That's not just the right guard. That's the quarterback who's clearly just not great from within the pocket. And I'll defend Jalen here in a second. But I think they wanted to be known of like,

this isn't just idiot coaches and A.J. Brown. Some of it's on him. And he refuses to go under center. And we've had to talk to him like going under center, one can help you out and two helps our running back out, who I don't know, just had one of the greatest seasons in the history of the league. and when you go go under center and a guy goes, no, what's the coach going to do?

Honestly, what's how he going to do? I'm making $50, $55 million. Nick, what are you making $10? What are you making $10? I 5x you. I don't have to listen to you. And that's the thing about Jalen is it kind of became a little NBA-ish. Like, yeah, I don't really.

I need to listen to anybody. I'll do what I want to do. I think I know what my strengths and weaknesses are, which he clearly doesn't. because part of his strength is to move. I kept saying in the 49er game, and listen, I wanted the 49ers to win, was like, if Jalen just ran like 15 times,

they would have no answer. They have backup defensive linemen. They have backup line. They have like seven-string linebackers. They had a guy that was like out of the league. And they ran one, if I remember correctly, design quarterback run. It went for like 20 yards.

Now there was a holding, so it was called back. I would run that play every fucking play. The 49ers, Robert's Hall could have the greatest game plan of all time. They would have no shot to stop it. None. They didn't have the athletes on the field. But they couldn't call it because he wouldn't run it.

And so part of being a great player is being a great teammate. And part of being a great teammate is being good with the coach. What do I need to do? And that's what has made Josh, Lamar, obviously Patrick, like, what do you need me to do? You need me to jump this way? I'll jump this way. You need me to run backwards this way I'll run backwards this way

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning did it forever It's like oh you're just going to allow me to do dump-offs and wheel routes this entire game I will do that every fucking play because it's not about me it's about how do we get the ball down the field get first downs score touchdowns and win the game

that's the only thing that matters and I do think that's pretty clear and this is what I've heard that the money has changed the relationship how could it not because if you don't handle money well and you become that rich and not like well that he's lazy, he doesn't work, he doesn't, like he's in shape, he tries, but like when it comes to the scheme, he pushes back

against it. And here's the one thing that like a lot of other quarterbacks, Matt Ryan, Aaron Rogers are two great examples. Matt Ryan is first year with Calhian and Atlanta, did not go well, and Aaron Rogers is his first year with Matt LaFleur. They were in the NFC championship game, but anyone to watch that team was a little weird. And part of it was both guys weren't that comfortable turning their back to the defense. They didn't like it. Aaron Rogers liked being in the shotgun. Matt Ryan liked being in the shotgun.

But in that offense, a lot of the play action is turning your back to the defense. And Kyle told Matt, like, you have to do this for this scheme to excel. And you will excel. He listened, what happened? Matt Ryan won the MVP, and they were up 28 to 3 in the Super Bowl. obviously Aaron Rogers they kind of hybrided it but he went to win multiple MVP's and one thing that said in that article

is and listen this goes for anybody most of us human beings if we try something new if we go a week or two especially in this modern day society or it's not working we'll pivot and sometimes you have to think big picture and like you've got to get worse before you get better

and they will try new things and this is what was reported and if it doesn't go well, Jalen, like we'll refuse to do it. And here's the problem. This new scheme hiring Sean Manning. Here's the other part I think about this article, for those of you that haven't read to go check it out on ESPN.com. One thing that had to really embarrass Jeffrey Lurie,

who spent a boatload of money on this team over the course of his ownership, and Howie Roseman, who thinks that he's built one of the best teams in the league, talent-wise, especially on offense, they couldn't get anyone to take the job. They have a roster with, I mean, multiple offensive linemen that are good under contract. Sequin Barclay, multiple wide receivers, whether they want to keep AJ or not, he's a big time asset. You know that they will draft another wide receiver if need be and more likely the guy will be good. They got firepower on offense.

And they have an elite defense. So as an offensive coordinator, it's a pretty good spot. multiple coaches, Shane Stuyken and Kellynne Moore, became head coaches off the gig. No one would take the job. Because I say this all the time about football, it's a lot like high school. Word gets around really fast. Everyone knows everybody. And word spread, it's not easy to deal with this guy.

He won't listen. And he has his beliefs on what should work and not that open-minded. And I think the Eagles, you know, ended up with Sean Man. who clearly wasn't their first pick and who knows it might work, but he's going to run the Kyle Shanahan offense, which again is predicated like Rogers, like Matt Ryan, on getting under center and turning your back to the defense, which, in fairness to Jalen, if most of your career you had been in the shotgun,

you wouldn't be that comfortable doing it. But what he's doing currently is not only not working, it's a fucking disaster. So for them to try this, I think they're putting this out there because I don't know the date the Eagles report, but my guess is typically a week or two before the draft. So within the next 14-ish days, they want it to be known. Like, this is not going to be tolerated anymore.

And, like, I know you're making a lot of money, but you've seen before we got rid of a guy to put you in there. If you don't think we will do this again, you're dealing with the wrong people. Because we will not hesitate. This organization fired fucking Andy Reid. We do not care. We will get rid of you if you do not produce.

And now to me, the pressure is, all on Jalen and Siriani, because he's got to handle this. He's got this young coordinator, and this is where Jeffrey Lurie sings the praises of Siriani, great with people, great handling stuff. This is why this job is so intense. This is not an easy place to work. The roster is highly paid. This team is treated like it's an SEC football team, like LSU, Texas, Bama, Georgia.

It's just, it's in a fishbow of intensity of football. and now you have this issue of Jalen, not that he didn't know, like these issues, it's all been discussed with everybody. You know, this is one of those, maybe all the public knows. Me and cowardice have talked about this before. This is not something that I didn't really learn much from it.

Just because I'm privy, this is the world I'm in, but I could see you reading, God, I got some issues. And this is part of his job. And this is where if you wanted to defend Siriani as one of the top coaches, basically in every turn he's handled, lot of crap. This is not a gig for just random guys that can't handle the pressure. It will eat

you alive. But also, I think they're going of, if he plays like that again, it could be an even bigger disaster. And more than likely, the Giants are going to be better with John Harbaugh. The Cowboys have multiple first round picks. They already beat us last year. If their defense is just solid, like they could be a problem. The commanders have Jaden Daniels, who had one of the great rookie seasons of all time. If he's just healthy, they could be a problem. Like, this is not just going to be as easy of like, even if we have a weird season, we're locked to win the division. So to me, the bat signal went out to Jalen and his camp, like, this will not be tolerated anymore. So you either do it our way or not at our

way anymore. Because it does feel like it's shaping into the Russell Wilson situation a little bit. And, you know, Russell was a better player than Jalen Hertz when it started getting weird. He just was. But to me, Jalen can be a good player again if he's willing to go, I'll do whatever it takes to win. And his legs are a great attribute for his game. Part of what makes Lamar great when he's humming is he can do everything. You can throw within the pocket, he can throw on the move and he can run. But it's like, bro, you know, remember Russell's big thing. It's like, I'm going to play like Tom Brady. It's like, no, you're not. And he never could. And I think Jalen kind of got in that mode of like, that's how I want to play. Well, it's like, you're not good enough to play

like that. Most people aren't. So, and you specifically are not. So we're not doing that anymore. And I think this was, I think they were very strategic about this. You know, Jeffrey spoke and he was the opposite, just praising him left and right. But the contract came up. They're like, well, what about a contract extension? Because, After next year, it'd be like, could they get ahead of it? He's like, no, he's just on the new contract. Like right now, a contract extension, if you're a betting man, if this keeps getting weird, he will not be the quarterback for long of the Philadelphia Eagles,

which is crazy because the guy was just a Super Bowl MVP, has been a starting quarterback in multiple Super Bowls. But isn't that the great part about the NFL? And this is how fickle the sport is. You could be hoisting the Lombardi trophy on a duckboat down Broad Street And two years later, them saying, if you don't improve, we will cut you or trade you. And we will not hesitate to do so. We've done it before.

We'll do it again. And if you don't believe us, call our bluff. Because we've seen them. They 100% will. Because I'll promise you this. There's really one made man in that organization. It's not the quarterback. It's not the coach.

It's the general manager. So I just think that this was, something they felt like they needed to do. And now this scheme running the Shanahan thing is one thing I talked to a lot of people about at the combine. It's like that offense is like you've got to be pretty accurate, quick decision maker. Jalen's game is much more kind of playmaking. You know, his good version is like what Deshawn Watson was when he was in Houston. And what Russell was, like kind of scramble get without the pocket, make plays down the field,

throw a good deep ball, make plays with your legs, try to transition to something he's not. And it's a good life lesson. Like, we all have certain strengths and weaknesses. Most people aren't just like super good looking, tall, super smart, great socializer, loving, empathetic person, great athlete, can play the piano, can play the guitar, can run a company. Like, most of us have one or two really strong strengths.

It's no different with players. Most people are not like Lawrence Taylor or Aaron Donald or Trent Williams Most players in the league even the good ones have weaknesses and the key to making those players excel is to try to

avoid those weaknesses right? Some guys, some wide receivers like DeAndre Hopkins never ran that fast. You know what? It didn't matter. You're not asking him to run go routes all day long. If you did it wouldn't really work because you're not going to get away from anybody. But if you do slant,

if you do out routes, if you do stuff across the middle, red zone, utilize the guy's talent. And I just think that that's what they're trying to do and they're going to try to do this with this new scheme. And I don't know. It's going to be fascinating. But here's what we know. The Eagles offense will be one of the biggest stories in terms of a unit next year in the NFL. I mean, they're always covered like one of the prime times because they are. but now that this story, now that you can't even hide from it, it's going to be, it's going to be fat. I love, it's what I've been saying about Josh Allen and the bills and Joe Brady,

mentor and Lamar Jackson. I love it when the pressure goes up to 100. That's when it's the most fun. Because sometimes you answer. It's like, I hate the Lakers. They're one of the only teams that I truly like, truly hate. Yet I got to respect it. I mean, they've kind of figured it out.

look fantastic. And sometimes, like, listen, you play for the Lakers, you got LeBron James, JJ Redick, everything became such a big deal, right? The pressure is immense. Same thing with the New York Knicks. Same thing with the New York Yankees. Like when Aaron Boone goes to the yard, it's a little different being the manager of that team than it is like the Anaheim Angels or the Texas Rangers.

It's a fucking pressure cooker. And that's what it's like for the Eagles. Players and coaches. So, and listen, how he's won multiple Super Bowls, his resume surely probably get him in the Hall of Fame one day. But that's how he operates. He's intense, the pressure in that organization, everyone's on pins and needles. And listen, I talked to Jeffrey Lurie five times in my entire life and the conversation probably lasted, combined less than a minute. Maybe he likes it like that.

Maybe he enjoys that. That's kind of football culture. Belichick was like that for 20 plus years. They went to nine Super Bowls and won six. Sabin was like that for 15 years. They won seven titles. Urban Meyer was like that his entire career. BCS, Utah, National Championships, Florida and Ohio State.

This is not, you know, beer league softball. It's not high school soccer. This is intense. Heads roll. Either get it done or you don't or they get rid of you. And we have some recent examples where guys got rid of quick. So the story, now that it's public, up. Today's show is brought to you by our presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet, Florida's Sportsbook.

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We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts around there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.

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SportsSlice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slic Life 12 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Another story. Puka Nakua has officially checked himself into a rehab facility in Malibu, which beautiful area right by the water. So now we've had Tiger and Puka. We don't have all the details on Tiger, but the moment Tiger's car flipped,

my first take was it is inevitable that he is in rehab within the week. Really for two reasons. One, it's Florida. They're not messing around. He's already got multiple DUIs. He was in a residential area. He could have killed people.

They will drop the hammer. I don't care how much money you got. So he had to do that to get ahead of it. Like he wasn't going to be at the master's dinner. He wasn't going to be teeing it up on the part three. That wouldn't look good in the judicial, you know, group's eyes. So like Tiger checking into rehab to me felt like a lock just from that standpoint. And too, just his respectability.

It's like, Tiger, we all know. Like you had multiple pills in your pocket. No one thinks you're drinking titos and sodas at lunch. Like, we know what you're doing. And we want you to get help, bro. But, listen, I'm not, I don't have an addictive personality, been around some addicts, known a few that didn't make it. And if you don't want to get help, it doesn't matter.

Obviously, in some of these situations, there are a lot of people around you that profit off you. And Tiger, unlike Puka, has way more money. Billion, well past a billion dollars. He got a lot of people on the payroll. And if those people have a sense of reality, they would push him that way to try to keep the money train run. rolling. Now who knows he gets out, maybe gets rid of some of them. But some of these Pooka Nakuwa videos, and listen, I'd be a hypocrite. Like, I've been blacked out my fair share of times.

But, and listen, I've tried to avoid binge drinking in my late 30s, early 40s. I still like having a few cocktails. When you have two, sometimes it leads to four or five. So I, I'd be lying if I said, I don't enjoy drinking when I socialize. I do a lot. Don't love the morning. and have had to be a little more careful because I just, I can't function hungover. But I do like having cocktails when I am interacting with other human beings. But, and I've been young, I've done stupid stuff.

Like many people listening, I'm sure if you were a high profile person and people had video cameras on you, when you were in your early to mid-20s, it would be something, I got very lucky. In college, and in high school, I mean, I started drinking like sophomore year or high school, there were camera phones, didn't do. exist. We had dial-up internet. So the iPhone, I don't think, came out until well after I graduated

college. So it's easy for a lot of people to talk about Puka's situation. Many of us could have been caught in situations that if a video got out, we would be thoroughly embarrassed in something we would want our children never to see. But when I was his age, I didn't have a Jackson Smith and Jigba contract on the line. And when I saw the story today that he checked himself into rehab, I went, he's got $100 million plus reasons to figure this thing out. Because the videos that it surfaced, one, from being a pain in McVe's ass with the streamers, which, listen, that would have been something that they could have got past.

You're just with some people that most people my age, me and Sean are the same age. We don't even know who these people. I couldn't point them out of the lineup. I don't even understand what's going on. Honestly, I don't even give a fuck. But to me, when you get in situations where you're stumbling outside of cars and then the lawsuit comes, I know it gets, you know, she backs out of it. Like, I don't want to deal with that.

And my best players, Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald, now Trent McDuffie, every night when I am Sean McVey and Lesneed, and I lay my head down on the pillow. I know the last person I'm ever going to get to, a call about doing something ridiculous or outrageous, something that they could control, would be my leaders on my team. It would never happen. And with Puka, that couldn't be said anymore. And here's what. I brought up a couple quotes from the day that they did the press conference, Mike McDonald and Jackson Smith and Jigma and John Snyder. One thing John said

is when you go to ownership and ask for an investment like this, you have to be cognizant of who the person is. His parents did a great job raising him. Mike McDonald one of the great things that paints a great picture about

Jacks means to us being a foundational piece of our football team and our organization is we've got a full house here. This is pretty awesome. I just want to emphasize how excited we are. He's going to be here and he's a foundational piece.

He's a cornerstone to our team. Another quote Mike had is he's a superstar who doesn't act like one. When you invest these contracts and now wide receivers, tackles, pass rushers, corners are getting $100 plus million dollars guaranteed. They just gave him a $35 million check the day they signed him, like I said, a couple weeks, you know, whenever that direct deposit goes. through two-week pay periods. They did it because of the guy.

Obviously, he's an elite player and has a chance to be a Hall of Fame level guy. But they would not have given that contract if he was a slap off the field. They just would not have. But when you have a guy who is everything you want, team captain, leader, tone setter, incredible human being, you can't wait to do that. You went, I drafted this guy. he's an all-pro, pro-bowl level guy. I want to invest in him because my name as a general manager, as a coach,

I want it to be associated with that guy. Ask Sean McVey what it's like to be associated with Aaron Donald or Matt Stafford. It's a big deal. He's synonymous with those guys. No different than Andy Reid, Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, Alex Smith. It takes a lot going back to all the guys with the Eagles, takes a lot of pride in guys being good guys. good people, and great players.

And the stuff that was going on with Jack Smith, there was no way on God's Green Earth going the way it was going, they could give him that money. It wasn't going to happen. And I would imagine the Rams told them, I'm not saying they told them to go to rehab, but they just said, like,

we're not having contract extensions with you. It's just not happening. Sometimes just business, right? David Mugeta could call Nick Casario. and be like, hey, you know, CJ is going into year four. $175 million guaranteed, $250 million deal, five-year deal. That's kind of the going rate for, yeah, buddy, you're going to need to call us later, right? And that's just business.

That's not, we like the guy or whatever, not playing well enough. And then you get these situations like Puka where I've been watching football for 30 plus years. I love football. I've made my living, my adult life. talking about football, literally. And I told one of my closest friends in the league, who's a wide receiver coach, we've never seen a player like him, and he's been doing it a lot longer than me. He's a unique, dumb, he's one of the more fun players to watch in the league.

And the Rams, who drafted the guy, not like Jackson Smith in the first round, not in the second round. Like, he was a later round pick. I want to say third. I don't want to mess this up, but Puka, Nakuwa. What round was he drafted in? For some reason, I want to say fifth. Fifth round pick!

Puka Nakuwa is a fifth round pick. For some reason, I think third. Honestly, that's even a bigger feather in less need in McVeigh's cap. We drafted a guy who, in the fifth round, that his rookie season he was a pro bowler, his rookie season he was a second team all pro, and last year, without a doubt, 129 catches, 1,700 yards, and 10 touchdowns, first team all pro.

That's something you take pride in. Like, think about in life what you take pride in, right? I just have a young son. If he becomes a good person, has success, gets A's in the classroom, even though I think about sometimes, like, after they teach him to read and write, like, what's he going to learn in school that's going to be any use to him in the world he's going to grow up in with technology

and the ability to literally get a hold of everything. But that's a conversation for another day. But, you know, if he hits a home run in Little League or, you know, wins a golf tournament, makes a tackle in peewees. My peewees were called midgets. And this was Davis, was like a hippie, liberal town back in the 90s. I would imagine they've renamed that. But we had midgets, junior midgets, before you got to, like,

JV football. But there's nothing more than you would take pride in as a general manager than landing a fifth round pick and having that guy. That's Pete Carroll, Richard Sherman. Kyle Shanahan and John Lynch, George Kittle. Like, it doesn't get any better than that. Fifth, six, seventh round picks become pro bowlers,

all pros, Hall of Famers. It's one thing. It's like, hey, we drafted, you know, even Patrick Mulham. Drafts him in the first round. Trade it up to get him. I hope he's good. Caleb Williams, like, we drafted him number one overall.

We drafted this guy in the fifth round. But that video of him on the bus, it was like, this is, if I'm less need, like, I'm telling his agent, like, you guys need to figure it out. Because this is other thing. Like, this is, these are grownups. This isn't Alabama football,

where you get in trouble and Nick and have seven people hold your hands. Most people are not the Eagles. We're big doms around. It's like, you got a, figure it out. Because if you don't, like, we'll just figure it out with someone else who's not going to be as good as this guy, but we're not dealing with this. And we for damn sure are not talking about him currently, like they're talking about Jackson Smith, who are kind of on the same trajectory.

Two guys who are due contract extensions that had enormous years, who are great players, but one guy's been a lead off the field. And the other has turned into a major pain in the ass. So whether he did this on his own, whether people pushed him to do this, I don't know, but I give him credit. Because if he did not change, it was not going to end well. Because he wouldn't have stayed on the Rams for long. It just wasn't going to happen.

They wouldn't do it. Look at the guys they invested. When's the last time they made a mistake with investing in a bad guy? It's pretty rare. They're pretty dialed in with the character stuff, it feels like. I think we might have touched on this a little bit, but Kyle Shannon, hand yesterday.

Him and LaFleur were both, like, wearing the same suit. And LaFleur kind of egged him on. He's like, hey, Florio, you know the Rams? They wanted these guys to, uh, they wanted to play the Niners in Australia. I'd never, I'd never heard that. I just assumed the league just wanted to put a good game there. And then Kyle was like, oh, yeah, they, they requested us that they wanted their Australian, they was going to be the Rams Australian home game.

They said, we want to play the 49ers. Kyle's like, of course they do. We sell out their stadium. I went to a Rams Niner game at SoFi 2021. It was probably 75% Niner fans.

It was so loud in there and as Kyle said, they have to go on silent count. And here's the thing. When you move a lot, like the Rams were in L.A. Then they went to St. Louis and they came back.

The Chargers were in San Diego. They come to L.A. The Raiders have gone to L.A. They go to Oakland. They go to VIII. Vegas, you're not going to have home field advantage. This ain't Seattle, where my entire life, the Seattle Seahawks have been in Seattle. My entire life, the 49ers have been in the Bay Area.

My entire life, the Chicago Bears have been in Chicago. When you just stay somewhere, your fan base is just going to grow, it becomes more passionate, especially when you're good. But all these teams that move a lot, like, what do you think you're getting? Especially in a place like L.A., which got a million teams, a lot going on. It's like, yeah, your fan base. I was at Lowe's today. My dryer that when I bought this house, we remodeled it,

but we left the washer and dryer from the previous guy. And, you know, they're probably a 10 years plus old, right? I was like, I'm not buying any washing dryer. They work fine. Well, last night, the dryer snaps. And it was like, I'm not paying some guy $400 to fix it. The dryer is probably not even worth that. So, like, you know what?

We've been talking about it forever. I'm just going to go get a new washer and dryer. So I'm like, you know what? First thing in the morning, I'll do a little husband duty. I'm going to fire off to Lowe's. Sometimes I just feel like a man walking into Lowe's. I'm a podcaster, but this is fucking where working men show up at 7, 8 in the morning with a coffee in their hand. Just to get some stuff to go do work.

I'm just buying a washer and dryer. Then I'm going to pay someone to install and remove mine, but that's neither here nor there. So you go in there. And as I'm walking, you know, you have. the lady, the thing's enormous. Lowe's home deeply. Sometimes you go in there. And if you're not used to going in there a lot, some of you guys that are in, like, construction world

or they do the DIY projects, you kind of know where to go. I don't go there that often. So I get in there a little overwhelmed. It's like, where do I even walk? So you just, first person you see with a vest on, you're like, where is whatever you're looking for? And they kind of point you in that direction you go. And as I'm walking, there's a section with these golf carts.

And they're not like your normal golf cart. They're the golf carts that kind of look like a, you know, almost like a mini car. I mean, they got like three rows of seats. They're huge. They actually look pretty sweet. If I had a bigger garage, honestly, I'd probably buy one. But the first one I see is just a 49er logo golf car.

I'm in North Scottsdale, Arizona. Where the Arizona Cardinals are, they're building a new practice facility in the next couple years. I think it's going to be ready in like 28. Is, I mean, a 10-minute bike ride from where I'm sitting right now. And the 49ers stranglehold on the West Coast, specifically Southern California and Arizona, speaks first. When they play the Rams and they play the Cardinals, they are 49er home games.

So the 49ers have their home games. And then when they play the Cardinals and when they play the Rams, they get two home games. When they play Seattle, Seahawks in Seattle, it is not a home game. It is a disadvantage. I mean, it's hard. So it's a true road game. And I understand Kyle being like, this sucks. And, you know, Sean McVeigh's not really complaining about it.

You know why? Because he goes, I would rather get on a flight 19 hours and play these guys, even if it's kind of a neutral field, than what I have to deal with. They lost last year to Mack Jones. Because one advantage of the 49ers have in these games is the other team has to go on silent count. And honestly, it's worse for the Chargers. That every time they play the Broncos, every time they play the Chiefs, every time they play the Raiders, every time they play any fan base,

like the Vikings, the Bears, any group of people that have gravitated out, you know, to the southern region of Arizona, Vegas in Southern California, they're at a huge disadvantage. It sucks. I don't feel any sympathy, though. That's what happens when you're a nomadic franchise. You know who doesn't have that problem? Chicago Cubs. You do who doesn't have that problem? The New York Knicks. The San Francisco Giants, the L.A. Dodgers. Don't fucking move. When you're not moving to different cities, you're not crossing state lines, your fan base. will be loyal. The Steelers, the Packers, the Bears, none of these teams deal with it.

You know, because they've just been in the same place forever. But someone actually hit me on a DM that said, for Fugazi Friday, we'll do this a day early. This guy must live in Australia. These tickets to the Rams-Niner games are a joke. $90,000 people in queue in the pre-sale. $300.

Australia plus, I don't know, that must be like, they have different, they must have a different currency. For standing room only tickets. Not even a seat. GA is 600 plus. I don't know the conversion rates, but clearly this guy lives there. Things are pretty crazy. Not to mention hotels, flights to Melbourne are going to skyrocket.

Better off grabbing a few bevies than smashing a bucket of wings with the mates at a local than watching the game of football and a cricket pitch. so yeah I don't know I'm not behind this Australian game not because I didn't even know or if I was the Rams I would do the same thing I just think this whole thing's ridiculous but to now know that the Rams part of the reason they were begging to play the 49ers is because they get a disadvantage flying is one thing Kyle's gonna have to do

is snap out of it and even he said he's like I have till the summer and then once we start training camp, I'll never talk about it again. But it does suck. Can I tell you about my new friends, Zbiotics? Let's face it, after a late night with drinks, I want to bounce back and I want to bounce back fast. Zbiotics is a pre-outcohol probiotic drink

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I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it. One of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,

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I was watching this show on Netflix were these young chicks and dudes date older people. It's like they don't know. It's kind of like love is blind but they're trying to set up

someone in their 20s with someone in their 50s or 60s. And I was watching it last night and this girl who's probably like 22, 23 is dating this dude that's like 40. And she's wearing these tiny little sunglasses.

And I looked at Maria. We're in bed. And Jack's just sleeping. The last night was one of his greatest nights of sleep yet. It was like his Tom Brady moment. Slept from like 9 to 6.30 in the morning. It was incredible. He keeps that up. I don't even know what I'll do.

I'll give him more milk. But, oh, I don't give him any. I give him bottles. But she creates the milk. You know what I mean? I'll give him a standing ovation. And I go, why are her glasses so small? And she's like, that's in now.

I started thinking, think about younger people, right? If you're 20, you don't want to look like people that are 45. And fashion is a great example. Like, I was cool with the baggy jeans. I was glad they were gone. Well, guess what? They're not back. It's all anyone wears more women than men,

but it's like the baggy jeans are back in style. You know why? Because things ebb and they flow. So you think something's going to go out, but then all of a sudden little glasses that I used to remember like 20 years ago, people wearing are kind of coming back. Baggy jeans are back. That's the way fashion works.

Something is cool, then it's not cool, and then it's cool again. And not that long ago, the running backs were jumping on Zoom, and it felt like all going to strike the NFL. Not like with a fist, but just like refuse to play because none of them were getting paid and getting screwed. Now, last year we had a 5-7 running back. They played a Boise State. It drafted six overall.

This year, it would be shocking if Jeremiah Love makes it out of the top five. I was in the car listening to John Eric Sullivan, who's an impressive guy. And they were asking him, like, you know, you just traded Jalen Waddle. Are you going to trade A-chan? He said, not only are we not going to trade A-chan, we're talking to his agent. We're trying to give him a big extension. We think he's a foundational piece here and one of the best running backs in the league. Sequin Barclay got a contract from Howie

and then got an extension the next year. Christian McCaffrey assigned multiple massive extensions. Alvin Camara makes a ton. The running back is back. As long as you can do it all. Catch and run. But that position, we thought, oh, it's dead.

No one's messing with him. It's all about the quarterback. And now find me a good... Andy Reid, who is probably one of the most past happy coaches in league history, just gave a running back a three-year contract for $45 million. The guy had like nine good games. Great college player, but a little risky, but he's like, we need a really good running back.

Kenneth Walker, come on down. A-chan. I wanted to call him E-T-N, but he said his name was A-chan. Saints gave him a bunch of money. The running back, everyone thought was dead, just shows you football is very fickle. Things that, like, obviously you're always going to need tackles and pass rushers.

Those are never going to go out of, you know, style. But it felt like the running back was just dime a dozen. Find three guys off the street. Not really the case. Three years ago, Christian McCaffrey, best player 49er Super Bowl. Last year, in the Super Bowl, didn't win it. Last year, two years ago,

Sequin Barclay, best player on the Eagles' Super Bowl champion. Last year, Kenneth Walker went on an incredible hot streak, and as John Snyder said, made enormous plays in our big games and got a huge contract after. Running back matters. Always has, always will, and it's really matters now. What I wanted to do before I got out of here is someone had said, you know, you broke down the coach's photo, you broke down the GM photo.

How about you give some thoughts on the Jay Glazer video on them drinking at the pool? I've seen pictures of this before. I didn't know this was an annual thing that, as they've talked about, Mike Tom, Glazer put this on. They wanted to get all the coaches in the league out for basically a happy hour. Where I come from, happy hour starts about four. This happy hour starts at one, never opposed, suns out pool, happy hour going on, all for it. This Biltmore Hotel, where they stay at, the first long weekend, my wife, she wasn't even technically my girlfriend then.

we had on like our third night of just having a lot of fun we're like what are we going to do tomorrow it's like you know Arizona and I wasn't this was like 2021 or 2 she's like you could just go to pools and pay for a day pass and they're just sweet

I'm like that's not I didn't really do that in the Bay Area why would you? It doesn't really exist it's like oh yeah just do that it's like it's like 20 bucks you know on a random especially like a Sunday we'll go to this historic hotel and you just drink and

get food. So we just went there, got blasted on like a Sunday. I don't even know when it was probably May. And just had a good time at the Biltmore Hotel exactly at the pool where they were. So it was kind of nostalgic seeing these guys sitting around. But Jay Glazer just gets all these guys together and they just kick it. And right when I saw it, like I had like seven thoughts. And the first thing I thought of, the first thing you see, I mean, anyone just needs to go to Jay Glazer's Twitter needs to go to his Instagram and you can just watch this video. You just see Brian Schadenheimer and Robert Sala. Just kind of hanging.

They're kind of in no man's land because there's this long table. You've got a bunch of guys at both ends and they're just kind of in the middle. Probably making some small talk. Not sure they know each other that well. They don't want to dive into other people's conversations. They're kind of, you know, Robert Sala, just a good looking bald guy gives up a peace sign. but then as he scrolls, he immediately goes to this crew of Shanahan, Matt Ryan, and LaFleur.

Not Matt LaFleur, but Mike telling them, and you can hear him say Whisper Rock, which is one of the coolest golf country clubs here, which is where all the pro athletes and all the former pro athletes and all the sticks, all the pro golfers go, which is a cool hang. And him telling them about that. And you can see Matt Ryan and Kyle.

holding their cocktails just like shaking their head like this place is sweet and then he pans a little bit more and the first guy you see is dan campbell but sitting next to dan campbell is michael phelps and first i'm like honestly when i first saw michael phelps i thought it was nick syriani but then you do a double-take a little too skinny for seriani and then j glazer said look that's michael phelps i'm like that's kind of weird and then you realize michael phelps michigan guy they're probably telling stories and then he pans a little bit more. I think it's Kurt Menofy is just there hanging as well with John Lynch. So what is Dan Campbell and Michael Phelps talking about? My guess would be Dan is fascinated when Michael was training the diet. Look at Dan. I mean, he does do likes to eat. And you got

John Lynch just chimed in. I can see Dan Campbell just wanting to know about big hits like 1996 and Michael Phelps just taking it in. And then he pans a little bit more. And this is the only time I felt just a little sorry because I like this guy I think he's smart I'm actually thinking he's going to be a good coach but anytime you're the new guy to the group and that's the advantage from Michael Flore

his brother's been a head coach forever he's worked with all like seven of these head coaches right known Kyle for like 20 years buddies was solid just knows this crew Kubiak you got Jeff Halfley

it's kind of in no man's land who's just kind of sitting by himself like not probably quite confident enough to just go kick it with Phelps and Dan Campbell, not quite cool enough to just go hang out with McVeigh and Sean Payton, can't just go like sit there with Matt Ryan and Kyle Shanahan. So he's kind of doing what if they put me or you in this situation and they just say, hey, we're going to take you to this drinking situation with all these coaches. It's just going to be all the NFL head coaches, kind of the younger, cool ones. Where would you sit? You would kind of just

sit in a weird spot by yourself and probably not talk to anybody. That's what Jeff Halfley was doing. Just kind of sitting there like, God, I hope I win and I'm pretty good. And these guys liked me in a couple years. Like, I'm in one of these conversations. And then all of a sudden you see Siriani sitting there too with Todd Munkin. That's, Sirionti's one of Super Bowl.

You got Munkin who's, I bet on being won and done. You got Halfley who just not trying to ruffle any feathers. And then Siriani's sitting there who's like, like, oh, this story's coming out about Jalen, I better buckle up. And then my favorite part of this drinking session, of this is like, this is where the young hot shots sit. You got Joe Brady, you got Sean McVeigh, who's wearing just a skin tight blue, probably like Rams undershirt.

You got Liam Cohen. You got LaFleur's hair just perfect. You got Minter who's not quite that cool, definitely not that cool looking. but he's really good at his job, so they kind of invited him over. And you got just holding court with just a full crisp beer in his hand of just talking nonstop. I think he might be wearing a Sunday red shirt is Sean Payton. And he is just telling stories.

Joe Brady's laughing, LaFleur is laughing, McVeigh standing there just waiting when he can tell stories. But I can't even imagine what Sean Payton just, a guy likes talk, you know. And honestly, if I was, was there, if I was halfly, I would try to work my way over to Sean Payton just so I could listen. Because that's the key when you're in one of those environments and you're not really supposed to be there. Well, maybe you are supposed to be there, but you're not really welcome, right?

It's like a club that you're in, but like you haven't really paid the dues yet to sit with where you kind of want a one day sitting. You just got to position yourself to kind of the crew that, especially in that situation, it's going to be the most entertaining. So I felt bad for Halfley. Is that John Harbaugh? Yeah, it's John Harbaugh? But Sean Payton, I think it's safe to say that Sean Payton is, you know, he'd be a great podcaster. He likes to talk.

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