The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Fanatics Flag Football Reaction, Raiders Future, March Madness & NFL Outlook

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

On this episode of 3 & Out, we react to the first set of games from Fanatics Flag Football. What stood out, how competitive is the product, and what could this mean for the future of the sport? We also take a closer look at Mark Davis and the Raiders, discussing what the long-term outlook of the franchise could be and how ownership decisions may shape their future. Plus, we break down the latest from March Madness, including key takeaways, surprises, and what to watch as the tournament continues. On the NFL side, we dive into the Baltimore Ravens’ over/under outlook, evaluating expectations for the season and where they stack up in the AFC. We also discuss the NFL schedule, what to look for, and how it can impact teams heading into the season. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And we're going to talk some football. We've got flag football going on, some thoughts. Mark Davis, the Raiders, succession plan, the NCAA tournament has everyone up in arms over NIL and the transfer portal. It's like, it'll never be the same. Well, yeah, it won't. And some other NFL stuff.

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God, the clips I saw, it's like that guy misses it. That guy. wants to play football right now. For all the money, Fox is paying him, all the sweet country clubs he's in in Florida, flying PJs all over the place, posted Instagrams about his sweet watches, there is nothing.

And I repeat nothing. That man misses more than playing football. Let's just start with like football, actually, because I saw the clips, I mean, the clip of Tom Brady avoiding the rush and throwing the dime to digs in the back of the end zone, it's like I've said this forever I the number one advice

I give any human being is to try to find whatever you're going to do when you're usually you're thinking about this when you're in college not necessarily high school but you start developing these things when you're young find something you're passionate about to do

because if you do it is so much easier to work because no matter what job we do we all end up working right whether you're a podcaster I don't care what you do. It becomes, there's just a monotonous, it's a job element. You become numb to it.

You're just doing something for money, no matter how much you love, no matter how much passion you have. But that passion and that love for whatever you're doing is able to make it more enjoyable. It's able to make you work longer and harder when a lot of people just would tap out because they don't care. I know this. If I did basically 98% of other things in life, I would suck because I wouldn't take it seriously. I wouldn't get there early.

I wouldn't stay late. I wouldn't think about it on the weekends. I wouldn't work on the weekends. I wouldn't want to. All I'd be thinking about is going home and doing other stuff. And when you watch Tom Brady, that guy loves playing football. The one clip I saw is like, man, this guy misses Toronto football in the National Football League. And like, I think in a different world and a different life, if maybe he didn't have some stuff going off the field

with his ex-wife now, who somehow just had a kid at like 45 years old. I didn't even know that was possible, but she pulled it off with the karate instructor. It's like, that guy misses it. But I'm watching this, and I see this clip of Joe Burrow. Listen, I saw all these takes on the Internet about flag football. It's a lot different than the NFL. So the thing that we got smoked, I mean, you got to play offense and defense, the quarterback situation a little bit different.

But I know one thing. These businesses, Mark Davis, the Oakland Raiders, who are now the Vegas Raiders, are valued at $10 billion. The Tish family, who I mean, was a Steve Tish, who's BFS with Epstein, is trying to push that shit to his kids so they leave him alone. That thing's valued at basically $11 billion. The Miami Dolphins, who I don't think of won a playoff game for 25 years, he just sold a couple percent to just get a little cash influx, $12.5 billion. I mean, these franchises, think about this. If you know a human being that, like, owned an HVAC company or owned some company and started scaling it and did really well and someone offered them $50 million.

If he crushed it and got $100 million, be like, that's one of the richer guys in my community. This guy, the American dream, build up this company, sold it, had this firm and these banks all coming for, $75 million. These teams, I mean, you're talking about the Raiders and the dolphins who never win are valued at a combined $22.5 billion. And I'm looking at Joe Burrow, who is a 50 or $60 million quarterback who is dealt with injuries, juke in doing 360s. I'm like, my heart dropped and I just saw the clip that was 12 hours after the fact. I can't imagine yesterday if GMs or coaches were just at home with their

family. It's a little bit of a slow time. Just flipped on the television on the couch, maybe having a cold one and said, honey, let's take a look at Burrow and Jane Daniels and Tom Brady. They had to go, what? This is, because listen, you're like, okay, it's a fun time, a little risky, and then you're watching what's going on.

I know there have been talk, and the NFL's big on flag football because they're going international, they're going here, they're going there, they're trying to get every fucking swinging dick in the world to just tune into an NFL game so they can one day sell the media rights for $7 trillion. I get it. You're either growing or you're dying. No one in life wants to make less.

I'm not anti-business here. I root for success here. Whether it's football or whatever you do, we celebrate that. I do think this thing, though, is a slippery slope. Because the clip I saw of Joe Burrow doing the 360 for a guy that's got a long resume of being on the shelf, I can't imagine Zach Taylor. make fun of Mike Brown all you want. The guy signing the checks. And those checks that hit Joe's direct deposit seem to be pretty big.

I went, Jesus, this is, I have to wonder, the owner's meetings here at a week, if a couple people are going to raise their hands and go, I get it, we got a union, we got J.C. Tredder, who said he never wanted to operate and be the boss. Now he's in charge. We've got a lot going on. But is there any way that we could just use like replacement players and just let those dudes from Team USA, let a bunch of those guys do it. I get it might help the league a tiny, tiny percent to have a couple famous guys. But this isn't basketball.

You can't roll out LeBron James, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, Michael Jordan, Charles Barkley, Kobe Bryant, and not really worry they're going to get injured. This is football. And we see it time and time again. In OTAs, in training camp, when you don't even have the pads on, in practices during the season, a guy has a major injury changing direction. That is how ACLs, Achilles, especially for these guys, who are probably in the middle of training, right, wherever in Florida, Dallas, Los Angeles, wherever they're living,

working with their personal trainer, doing just physical resistance stuff, obviously some track work to go out and play full speed against other NFL players. the clip of Burrough is Stefan Diggs, who last time I checked, pretty high-end athlete, trying to tackle him in the open, or not tackle, but rip the flag.

I'm telling you, I got nervous watching a clip that I knew was old. I mean, it's just, I'm not anti-flag football. I'm not like some of these people that America should be embarrassed. It's all in fun. Like, I don't really care.

But I, the number one thing that crossed my mind was like, there are going to be some hands that come up at this owner's meetings, like, guys, there's too much on the line. Like, we're paying too much money. We're all in business together.

This does not make sense. Like, if I'm Josh Harris, like Jane Daniels breaks his leg. It doesn't even need to be some devastating injury. It's like, is this even worth it? I did appreciate Gronk that I read that he pulled his hamstring. But the other thing that is, from an NFL standpoint, and back to the valuation, is Mark Davis This is one of the

like my favorite numbers I've ever read because the story comes out from Wickersham and Vanada that the owners are going to vote on a succession plan for Mark Davis and the Raiders

because he doesn't have any children if he's 71 years old so he's not exactly a supreme chicken and I think he's lived pretty hard living his good life I saw on the internet and you know the move to Vegas has been very very fruitful for the Raiders There is absolutely no denying that.

Their stadium's incredible. Don't have a home field advantage, but financially the practice facility. I mean, I don't think most of you, now, I would imagine a lot of people listening to this have never been to an NFL practice facility. They're not exactly, at least maybe it's changing a little bit, but most of us have seen the clips of Ohio State or LSU or Georgia. I mean, they look like spaceships. That's not really the NFL because a huge part of college,

was, well, that was before I could pay the players. That's probably going to slow down a little bit. But also, like, it was recruiting. Like, I needed it to be cool because I needed you to say I want to play there. We're in the NFL. I pick you, right? So it's not recruiting. I mean, a lot of these old school NFL practice facilities were not great.

The Raiders, before they moved to Vegas, had to be right up there, if not the worst in the league. It was this old bank in Alameda kind of by the Oakland airport. It was really, really shitty. So Mark Davis and Jerry who pushed for it because when they didn't allow them to go to Los Angeles to get to Vegas, went from the outhouse to the penthouse. I mean, the stadium they played in at the Coliseum, they should take, you know, as much explosive devices as humanly possible and blow that fucking thing to smithereens. Because you talk about a shithole, that is not, that that's being too nice to describe it as that. I mean, it's whatever the most negative description you could think of,

that is how I would describe the Coliseum. I mean, a dumps dump. It truly is. And now he's just in a state of the art in a place that is funneling a money. Like, it's worked. But in 1966, and this is a good life lesson, because you never know. Like, you truly never know.

I saw this clip, you know, the thing of Timberlake, I didn't even watch it. I just saw the headline of him getting the Dewey is going viral. But I also saw that Luke Combs, it's going to come back to Timberlake, told the Bustin with the boys guys that he thought Chris Stapleton's success made it popular for country music to give fat guys and ugly guys a chance who could sing. Because before they just wanted like really good looking guys. And Chris Stapleton was a guy that no one would.

give a chance to until he got on stage with Justin Timberlake. I think it was like 2015 or 2016 at the CMAs. And just it's an all-time performance. If you haven't seen it, YouTube Stapleton and Timberlake. And because I've seen a bunch of these Instagrams, it must be my algorithm. And today in my algorithm, it was like this podcast of this guy interviewing Stapleton's manager. And it was like the day before that performance with Timberlake, they were booking like $1,200, a day or night gicks.

Like that's what Stapleton would get. The day after the CMA performance with Timberlake, they were immediately getting offers for $300,000. So in 24 hours, his life change like that. Now, that's not an overnight success. Stapleton would tell you because he'd been playing music and writing music for decades. No one would give him a chance because, you know,

as Luke Combe said, he was fat, even though he's got one of the greatest voices you'll ever hear. I mean, there's no disputing. Whether you like his genre, or a music or not, like you'd have to be, like, you're just wrong if you say the guy can't sing. And I think we'd all agree. The guy can sing. And I saw that Al Davis in 1966 purchased 10% of the Raiders for $10,000. Now, obviously inflation, time value money, things were different. $10,000 in 1966 clearly was not like $10,000 now, right? So it was probably a lot of.

lot of money and people around him like this is are you sure like this thing's worth a hundred thousand dollars where are we going television you know radio was dominant at the time baseball was huge but he bought something that you know whatever 60 70 years later is worth 10 billion dollars and clearly television changed the power of the NFL in the best way humanly possible right and there have been stories about the NFL wanting to reengage with the networks because they They're way underpaid. Currently, the NBA is like they're charging more per viewer than the NFL. And obviously the NFL, if you've ever seen that clip of the most watched television shows,

the hundred of the year, it's like 90% the NFL. But ultimately my point is Mark Davis, I've always felt this way about the Raiders. They always had like this collegiate vibe to it. And I always thought it was really cool. I remember when I was in radio and we would go in all their former play. guys that were legends before I was even born, right? Like, you know, the Ken Stabler kind of crew, Ray Guy, the guys that played for John Madden in the 70s. The ones that were still alive were always welcome.

And their big thing was once a raider, always a raider. And I always felt like the Lakers with Dr. Bus had a, now obviously the Lakers under Dr. Bus were much more successful. Well, I mean, Al Davis won three championships. He won one with Maddeny, he won two more with Tom Fores in the 80s. But then they had a really rough stretch. For the most part, Dr. Buss didn't lose. Like his down years were still making the playoffs. My point is, it just felt like both those two organizations just had a great connection with people that played there.

And then Dr. Buss and Al Davis died. And I'm not Al Davis and Dr. Buss were different people, but legends in their field. Like when you think about the NBA and you think about the NFL and you just say ownership, in the history of the league, Al Davis and Dr. Bus will be two of the first people you think about in both their respective sports. Their kids were clearly over their head. Now, I can't speak to Jeannie Bus and the rest of the clowns, you know, in her family. Mark Davis is a really nice guy. He was always really cool to me.

He didn't always agree with what I said. But I always respected, like, I haven't met most of the owners in the NFL. But one thing Mark could do is he could come sit down at a table and just talk. He could be pretty normal. and there was some normality to a guy that has an asset that's worth billions upon billions of dollars. But a lot like the Lakers, when they sold to the Dodger group, everyone said like the ceiling has risen dramatically. And I think there are some similarities there with the Raiders.

Because Mark Davis simply does not have the money to run the team at the level in which it needs to be run now. and a huge reason the Raiders have dipped their toe and been more aggressive over the last couple of years talking to people around the league has been the guys that these billionaire guys, the two separate guys, Brady's not cutting the checks, but his two buddies are getting involved.

And they're paying guys like Chip Kelly, $6 million a year, and they realize they fucked that up. They paid them to get the hell out of their building immediately. And the Raiders, in a short period of time financially, Obviously, they took a huge jump when they got to Vegas and got some influx of cash. But the influx since they've let these guys buy in has really changed the game. So they're going to sell to the VC guy.

And the other VC guy, again, I'm going to butcher their names. All their percentages are going to go up. Tom Brady already has a piece. Who knows, maybe he will buy more. I do think Brady, you know, I've seen people say, like, Robert Kraft should have just given them a percentage of the, the team and kept him around or what if Stephen Ross would have let him be a player and then transition to a GM and give him a percentage.

All that sounds great, but I don't think there's a place in the league that a guy that owns such a tiny percentage could have more juice than the team with the Raiders. And that is only going to continue potentially when he sells to the guys because that's who Brady came in with. And they're the ones funneling these ideas. I mean, look at SpyTech. He goes back with Tom, the Tampa. So I think if you're a Raider fan, this has been a really tough.

The last 10-plus years of Al Davis's life was really embarrassing and tough to watch him. The majority of Mark Davis's tenure has been really shitty football. There is no guarantee just because you have money you're going to win. There's a salary cap league. It's why unlike college football, the reason Howie Roseman, or John Schneider or whoever gets so much credit is because you have to wheel and deal. This is not the Dodgers.

Where it's like, yeah, we'll just buy Shohei Otani for $700 million. Oh, Kyle Tucker, no one signed him? We'll just give him $60 million a year. Yeah, four years, $240 million. It's like, what? The guy hit like 28 home runs last year. Yeah, we'll just give him $60 million a year. He can opt out or opt in.

He can do whatever he wants. Oh, Otani's buddy in Japan? Yeah, we'll give him like $3.80. Mugi bets? Yeah, trade for him, then give him like $390. it's like that's not how football works. You have a salary cap, you have to manipulate it, you got to make moves on the margins,

and where you can take advantage, though, is signing bonuses and paying guys up front. And that's something going back, you know, Mike Mayok has talked about, the reason Khalil Mack was on the Chicago Bears is because they didn't have the cash to give him the contract that Chicago could offer. That's why Khalil was never going to show up

and not answering John Gruden's phone calls. because they knew they couldn't meet the demands. Those days are over. And, you know, the Lakers would have been very similar to the Raiders if LeBron James didn't want to live in Los Angeles. Because I saw what that organization became when Dr. Bus died. They were a joke. And unlike Mark Davis, Jeannie Bus is really good with the media.

She has some really close friends. Anyone that's read articles about that family, like, what a fucking embarrassment. You know, not all their fault. Crazy life. Dad was screwing everything. moved, coming from different moms and all sorts of shit. But I do think the Raiders, whenever this transition happens, one, Mark is going to be filthy rich.

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So I was rooting heavily for them. Midway through the game, I'm like, this is the greatest mid-major 12 seat I've ever seen. Before I looked them up and read these articles about how they have like these rooms with first class seats that you can sit down so you get used to talking to people in first class for business. Of course, everyone on Twitter is making fun of them. It's like that is the most practical thing I've ever seen in college, you know, do. The amount of stuff going on on college campuses that are completely worthless the moment you walk across that stage with a degree, stuff like that, more colleges to try to insubes. Institute. How do we elevate you in the real world where it's all about making money and doing deals if you're going to enter the private sector, which the majority of people going to

college are going to do. So props to high point for having that. I didn't realize super rich school, basically like an IV down in North Carolina. But Coach Cal after the game, because they easily could have lost. I mean, they were in major, major trouble, started giving them a bunch of credit. They had like chartered a jet for their fans. And he basically said, you know, coaches can win and lose games, but administrations win championships. And this thing is like, NIL has changed the game. Like on Friday, all 16 favorites won the game for the first time since like 2008 in back-to-back years, no 13, 14, 15, or 16 seed won a game.

It's like NIL has changed March Madness. And listen, I did not go to Duke. I didn't go to UCLA. He didn't go to Michigan, right? So I've always rooted for the underdog. I'll never forget watching Davidson and Steph Curry have that run. It was incredible. It was awesome.

Like VCU with Shaka Smart or Butler with Brad Stevenson. Like unless you're one of the big school snobs, which if I was a big school snob, I hate the fucking little guy. You think Jeff Bezos is rooting for the mom and pop shop? Of course not. So I totally understand. When you go to little schools like I did, like Cal Poly and we made the tournament one time in my life

we were 16th seat. I think we played Kansas and lost by like 75 in the first round and actually had to play in that 1616 playing game. But like this tournament and college football as well, NIL has completely changed everything. I'm old enough to remember a world that did not have the internet. Then the internet came and chaos ensued. Why? There aren't rules on the internet. There are more now, but historically there weren't. Listen, I can speak from experience. When I got out of football, I went to radio. Guess what?

A lot of rules. There are things you can and can't say. In my job now, I've been a podcaster for almost 10 years. Guess what? No rules. Maybe a little bit more because I have big advertisers and partners. No one's ever told me what I can and can't say. But it's like, I'm not going to rip a company that I know, like,

we're in business talks to get involved, right? but that's just a smart business, not because anyone's telling me what I can and can't do. I can say whatever I want. And any word coming out of my mouth is also allowed. You can't swear on the radio. So what's a huge advantage for podcast? Kind of real and authentic.

What has radio lacked? Like, feels very corporate. Of course it does. It is corporate. What are we? Not. One day podcast probably becomes way more corporate. That's inevitably how most things go.

Like, do you think Uber that destroyed taxis could not have existed without the internet and technology. What do you think did in Blockbuster? Streaming. Boom. See ya. And NIL is no different than like, I remember forever. I come from a small town. We do not want Target around. I remember hearing that forever when I was a kid.

No Target, no Target, no Target. Guess what's been in Davis, California for the last like 10 years. Target. Guess what's packed every single day? Target. guess what's not around as much anymore, the mom and pop shops that were in business around the vicinity. So I just think part of the big money and the transfer portal, yeah, the teams with the money are going to get all the talent. And the little mid-major, the butlers, I said this the other day. I underestimated, like when Luke Fickle was at the University of Cincinnati and they ran the table and they played in that BCS game against Alabama and just got their tea kicked in.

I was like, that's a really impressive coaching job. And they've Sots Gardner, $100 million player, Alec Pierce, $100 million player. Kobe Bryant, $50 million player, just won a Super Bowl. It's like, oh, they had some high-end talent. They had a quarterback get drafted. They had a good running back. I'm sure I'm missing some other guys that played in the NFL.

Well, guess what would have happened in 2026 with that team? Those guys would have been poached from Oregon, from Texas, from Ohio State, from Indiana. Like Indiana, it is an incredible story, the all-time losing this program in the history of Division I college football. They historically suck. Well, kind of makes sense. They were in a conference with Michigan and Ohio State, and they were a basketball school, completely turns it around. Obviously, they got to coach right.

They found this gem, Kurt Signetti, who's a star. But why was he able to do it so fast? It would not have been humanly possible 10 years ago. He could not have pulled that off even if he was equally as a guy. good of a coach. Because Indiana's got a shitload of money and the transfer portal you can transfer whenever you want. So when I watch Butler and Gordon Hayward back with Brad Stevens, guess where he probably wouldn't have been? Butler. I was at Fresno State. We had Ryan Matthews. He was drafted in the top 15 to replace Ladani and Tomlinson. Guess where Ryan Matthews would not have been probably after his

freshman year, Fresno State. So the transfer portal and the NIL, they're just No rules. So anytime there are no rules, that is going to benefit two people the most. Those willing to do absolutely whatever it takes. And in business, the people with the most money. Like, listen, we all, any of us that if you're listening to this, and I'm part of this, if you have a job or a business that is through a contract, right? There are things I'm allowed and not allowed to do because of the people I'm

contracted with in business. Obviously, in Netflix, changed my video platform. There are rules behind that. What's the number one thing all these college coaches are bitching about? One, if they're at a school that doesn't have the most money, you know who I never complain about money?

Steve Sarkeesian. Ryan Day. Dan Lanning. You know who you're begging for pennies? Kenny Dillingham. If you work for Amazon, you're not crying poor. right so i i think a huge part of this tournament like the soul has been lost because any of those teams and this is what came out about high point is like that's incredible god this team's awesome

it turns out they got a guy from kentucky as cow said like i heard gotlebe say this there's probably not many mid-majors that spent as much on their basketball team as high point and once everyone found out none of the power four teams would play them and it shows They look like a five-seat. But they're not the little engine that kid could. They bought their team, as they should if they have the money. So I just think part of the college experience now is like Big Bang and Take Little Bank. And it's always been that way.

Right, North Carolina or Duke in basketball or Ohio State or USC in football, in theory could always, Kentucky, you guys know what I mean, could always get the best players. And that's true. Well, now they still can draw because I, I saw Kentucky that lost, spent $20 million on their roster. They spent $10 million more than Iowa State who's ranked higher and beat them. Now, just because you have the money doesn't mean you're guaranteed to win, right? But it helps, right?

Yeah, the Dodgers are clearly have the most money and are well run, but the Mets and the Phillies benefit from having big payrolls. The Blue Jays, the Yankees, like, you don't always have to hit, but it's like you think they make them, you know, You know why they made the movie Moneyball? Not because Billy Bean. One is just a great name. And two, when he was younger, was really good looking,

could be played by Brad Pitt. It wasn't even that weird. It was because he ran a team that spent no money on players who were going toe to toe with the Yankees and the Red Sox. That's why. And that's very difficult to do now in college sports. And if you look at football, who do you think is going to die? It's why when we watched Appalachiansians,

state and the other program, I forget on top of my head, that made the playoffs like, what are we doing here? Now, in college basketball, the tournament's so big, it's a no-brainer to letting the little guys. But the little guy now has no shot. Because even if they, like, had the guys, that guy is not on their team potentially for more than a semester. So, like, listen, the game's changed. I don't think we're going back. I talked about this. The other day, you know, unionize. Like, you unionize when you're getting screwed. You know who's not getting screwed right now?

The players. They're all making bank. They get 100% of leverage, do whatever they want, whenever they want. Until that changes, it went forever. They had no control. Now they got all the control. And the teams with the most money have the best ability to control where those guys go, because that's where they're going to gravitate toward.

So, listen, I love the tournament. I was blown away by high point. But like Arkansas in the second round, a cuff doesn't come cheap. You know, I mean, look at most of these teams. They have the highest paid players. Now, just because you have a great player, you still need to build a good team, right?

We watched BYU not make it out of the first round and lost to Texas. But it's not like Texas, some low-budget operation. I mean, Sark's roster reportedly is like $50 million this year in football. I promise you this. They're not spending $500K on their roster. He's probably got some dudes. Got Sean Miller, who's, I mean, kind of knows what he's doing.

I still like the tournament. I enjoy it, but a little bit like college football, it's completely changed. And this goes back to Colin saying huge advantage NIL for the Big Ten. It's true. Indiana hasn't just thrown their hat in the ring. They are a power broker because it's like, okay, floodgates are open, we got money. And it's not just about brown bagging a guy like Nick Sabin for 25K. So, no, I'm going to give that guy $2 million.

And I'm going to give this guy and the next 17 guys 900 grand. And it's all guaranteed. And you don't have to worry about, like, this goes back to a lot of people who have mentioned this, the car dealership thing. Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Oregon, they're not dependent on that.

And I'm an SEC guy. I'm a West Coast SEC guy. But, football is going to be difficult. Basketball, it's cheaper. So, like, you can compete in basketball if you have a lot of money and buy the right guys and have the right coach. But the one thing basketball does parallel football with, there still is a chemistry element to the sport. There still is a cohesion element to the sport. This isn't baseball. It's like, I'll just buy these three guys, put one at third, one at first,

and one in center field. That's not really how it works. And you see, like, I watch St. John's. They play really, really well together. Like, they are just, they feel like they have a lot of chemistry. Last time I checked, they've been playing together for a minute. The dude on the team has been there, like, their main star, who's the defensive player of the year, who's the MVP of the conference, academic All-American, been there for like four years. You know, it kind of matters.

Like, that still matters in basketball. It still matters in football. And you can try to buy your way out. I watched AJ DeBonsa, who looks like the lock number one overall pick, going to, And who the fuck am I playing with? A couple other quick stories before we get out of here. I saw the Ravens have the highest over-under

in the national football league. That seemed a little bold. You know, I get they had a weird season, but I don't know. You got a brand new coach. You got a first-time play caller. One thing we're going to learn this year is because there is, I think, added pressure now

on this Max Crosby, Trey Hendrickson, the pick. Like, there's, listen, the moment they fired Jim Harba, or John Harbaugh, no different than the bill is the moment they hired Sean McDermott. Two teams with the most pressure for the new young coaches are those two programs. You got Lamar Jacks, you got Josh Allen, like, AFC championship game or bust. Which, listen, like, I risk moving, firing a guy, but you're there 18 years, you've blown a bunch of games.

Like, I totally understand it. But the pressure on this organization is pretty. immense. To me, that over under, this goes back to the Joe Burrow flag football thing. I think they can be pretty good. Like, if their defense comes together, they have the 10th overall pick. They hit on a couple draft picks. I think the Bengals right now would be my choice to win the division. Again, like, I can't have Joe Burrow disappearing for three months or breaking or tearing something in a flag football game. But if you tell me, which is a big if, Joe Burrow plays 16 or 17 of the game.

games, I'm probably in. Which I also saw Florio doing an interview somewhere that the NFL is going to push for 18 games. But one of the things they said, or one idea that's being floated around is you only have to play 17, or you only play 17 of the 18 games. It's like, that's the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard. There's no way they're adding a game. And Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson or Justin Jefferson or whatever, it's like, oh,

this is the game he sits out. Like, this ain't the NBA or baseball. Like this, there's no just taking games off or force games off. Like, that's moronic. Just, if you're going next your game, do the two buys, figure this out. But that idea is almost too stupid that it's like it wants it thrown out there to almost pressure these guys to be like, you think we'll take it a day off? We'll agree to this.

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Fifth. Someone just uses a project who really liked them coming out. Fifth round pick. But I think at this point in time, now it'd be risky having Carson Wentz. And Kyler Murray, I mean, both those two guys could be injured by October 1st. But I just, we've seen this song and dance. You know, we have history of the way these guys operate. I'm not talking Minnesota, but just teams and GMs. I'm not emotional about this. People like, you hate, I love it when people are like, I got this the other day.

You hate the Denver Broncos. Like, guys, I had a future on them in August to make the Super Bowl. I have no ill will or malice toward any of these organizations. I'll be the first to admit, like, I didn't think the Caleb Ben Johnson thing would work. It kind of did. You know, I got no problem saying when I was wrong. But the JJ, and I didn't have a strong take about JJ coming out. Like, it's not like I was anti-JJ, the college prospect.

I thought like, oh, it could be like Jimmy Garoppolo. Turns out, no, he can not be Jimmy Garoppolo. And guess who knows that now, the Minnesota Vikings? Wind on this. One thing that is so evident the last couple years, like, you sign Lamar or Josh Allen or Joe Burrow or Patrick Mahomes, and they get injured, obviously you're in trouble. right most of the time your backup's going to stink and you're going to roll out Gardner Minchu or Kyle Allen or whatever like that's you're all in it's back to the thing that Tom Moore told John Gruden when John Gruden was doing Monday Night Football and did a Colts practice and looked at Tom Moore and says why is Peyton Manning uh like why does Peyton Manning take every single rep why doesn't the backup get any reps just to like just in case and he said because

If Peyton Manning goes out, we're fucked, and we don't practice fucked. Like, I get that. And when you have a superstar quarterback, it is what it is. Even the year I know everyone likes to say, well, Belichick went 11 and 6 with Matt Castle. They didn't make the playoffs. Now, freakyers, dolphins, whatever, but still, they missed the playoffs. Ultimately, my point is this. If you're going to pay a quarterback, his floor better be,

And I'm not talking this version of Cousins, but the guy in Minnesota, that's got to be like the worst version. It's got to be Dack, Jared Gough, like kind of that world, right? Purdy. I mean, somewhere 7 to 13. If this guy's floor can be in the 20s, you're going to regret it dramatically. And I saw this headline that the Jets are paying Aaron Rogers and Justin Fields a combined 50, million dollars in dead cap space.

Obviously, the Aaron Rogers thing was mismanagement injury. He's an all-time great quarterback. But we all had the same reaction when they gave Justin Fields two years, $40 million. That's the craziest thing I've ever seen. And no different than when they gave to $150 million. You're like, what? Or when Kyler Murray's agent was like threatening the Arizona Cardinals saying they don't want to win. It's like, no, we just don't want to pay your quarterback yet.

And somehow they capitulated. and the agent and the quarterback got filthy rich. And not only they regret it, it's been a disaster since. Jonathan Gannon and got run out of town. So did Kingsbury. So does Steve Kine. And so will Monty Austin for it more than likely. Because that's what poor quarterback contracts do.

They get every single person fired. And, you know, cousins, the go-round with Atlanta got everyone fired. You can't give a guy $100 million who can't play. That was insane. It was insane at the time, and it aged even worse. So I think it shows you, even when you give the Jordan Love, the Brock Purdy, the DAC, who obviously you're paying a premium,

you don't feel great, because at the end of the day, it's like, you know, my best player is, think about it in, like, basketball terms. Like, oh, Jalen Brunson. Yeah, he's awesome. He's been a great Nick. But would I rather have to be. I have Yokic? Would I rather have like, uh, Luca? Would I rather have like Steph Curry or LeBron in his prime? Or Kevin Durant in his prime? Like, I mean, there are levels to it. So it's like, yeah, you pay Dak

Prescott, you're, well, damn good. We can make the playoffs. But I'd rather have some of these other guys. That's part of the business. But if you're ever like, this seems crazy. You probably shouldn't do the deal. Like, there is some common sense to some of this. And I do. wonder if it's going to shift back dramatically. And we've seen, you know, I think the Sam Darnold contract, the Baker Mayfield contract. Like some guys are just worth $25, $30 million. Some guys are worth $18 million. This is my thing with Daniel Jones.

Like, why can't he sign him like two years $40 million? Why can't he get the Justin Fields contract? Somehow, and listen, I give a lot of respect to Daniel Jones, his management team, because they dominate negotiations. They basically said, bend over. And Chris Ballard's like, what? He's like, no, we're going to win this. You're going to lose this.

And they did. I mean, they always do. So I just, some of these quarterback contracts have gotten a lot of people fired that they really have. Because it's one thing, like you fire a coach. Who usually hires the coach, the owner? Like no coach has ever been hired without the owner, not only probably wanting him, but signing off on it. That's why when Woody came back, saw all was fired. Now, he wasn't doing well, but he didn't hire him.

So it's like, that's why the Aaron Glenn thing, like, is kind of getting weird. Because it's Woody's guy. Woody picked him. But with players, like, owners, these guys don't know football lingo. They don't watch film. They're fucking on a yacht hanging out. As with the New York Giants, hanging with Epstein. It's just a fact.

I'm not even taking personal jabs here. This is a reality. I just think that got to be careful. And you better know. You better be right. The volume. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers.

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