The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Is Free Agency overrated, Mac Jones to the 49ers, Fugazi Friday

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

John dives into free agency and questions if free agency in the NFL is overrated compared to the other leagues because so few big names in the NFL actually become free agents. Next, John discussed Mac Jones signing with the 49ers and how Jones signing in SF is the league coming full circle. Later, John does his latest installment of "Fugazi Friday." Later, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 4:52 - Is Free Agency overrated in the NFL 16:10 - Mac Jones to the 49ers 35:09 - Fugazi Friday 38:33 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I guess I'm just going to ask a question. Is free agency overrated in the NFL? Obviously, it's not in baseball and it's not in basketball. But is it overrated in football? And don't get me wrong. I like you get excited. It is fun to watch these transactions. It has been something I've looked forward to as a sports fan my entire life.

It is cool. I enjoy this week. I enjoy watching guys start big names get traded, guys get signed, teams get really aggressive with cab space. I'm not acting like I am not into this. But after you give it a couple days, you take a deep breath and you look back and you go, isn't this always the most overrated time of the league year?

Because, first of all, the best dynasty of my life was Belichick. He never really dabbled in this. He always waited for the second tier guys that he got for no money or older players who were high-level Pro Bowl guys willing to give him a discount. He rarely, if ever, broke the bank on guys, that weren't his guys. The current dynasty, the Kansas City Chiefs, their core guys have been three people they drafted.

Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey, and Chris Jones. And they won their first Super Bowl with Tyree Kill, who they also drafted. And then they flipped, and how they continued this dynasty was basically through that draft, was a huge part of it with Big Duffy and Carlisks. But when you think about, like, the Chiefs,

who has been their huge signing over the last five, six years. An offensive linemen here or there? Like, they are not signing Justin Reed. You know, they are not out there fishing in the deep end of the pond. And I thought about last year.

And again, I'm not trying to hate on any team that signed players. Totally understand if I'm the Minnesota Vikings or if I'm the Chicago Bears. Basically, if you take those two teams, they had five starting offensive linemen. Right, the Vikings did two and the Chicago Bears

did three. Totally understand why they would do that. If I was in their shoes, I probably would do the same. But like, when I see Aaron Banks get $88 million from the Packers, like, yeah, they need a guard. Is that a good contract? Like, I mean, I understand people around the league go, that's kind of rich. But look at last year. You could argue the best signing of the year when you factor in the money was Zach Bond. How he gave him like one year, $4 million. He was first team all pro. He was honestly one of the better players, non-quarterback, in the NFL.

Obviously, Sequin had the best running back season, but Derek Henry had the second best running back season. The Baltimore Ravens gave him $8 million. $8 million guaranteed. So some of these contracts that are getting thrown around, Milton Williams gets a huge amount of money. All my buddies with the Eagles love the guy. I mean, he's a stud.

He had an incredible season. I don't even think he played over 50% of the snaps. And he also got to play the majority of the time next to what many consider the best and most talented young defensive linemen in the league in Jalen Carter. So you have a guy, you're giving, I mean, I hate talking about it this way. It's just easier sometimes. Like $25, $26 million a year.

He was never even become close to a full-time player and really benefited from playing next to a super-staffir. star. And I'm not anti the Patriot signing them. But these contracts that get thrown out for these players set enormous expectations. Because you're no longer talked about like, let's face it, the core of the chiefs over the last however many years have been guys they've drafted developed. Same thing with the Patriots for a long time. Same thing with a lot of the good teams in the NFL. When you look at the Eagles, the 49ers, the Detroit Lions, It doesn't mean you can't supplement players,

but we talk so aggressively about this time. Like, this is going to change, this team, this team. It's like, I don't know, we'll see. The cohesion, the chemistry, that is built over time. Like, I love what the Bears did. It was a no-brainer doing all that. But, like, offensive line chemistry isn't just built overnight. It takes time.

And same thing with the Minnesota Vikings, adding two new starting offensive linemen. Now, I would say adding guards and centers, in theory, should be the easiest plug-in-play in all of the sport. But I just think this time of year, it's kind of a tried and true way we react. And we're all, including myself guilty of this, is the way we talk about these moves usually isn't the way they actually play out. So is free agency overrated? I think it's fair to say in the National Football League, it is a little bit. I was watching Sam Darnold give his press conference today,

and it's pretty clear that that game that he had against McDonald and Seattle that essentially knocked them out of the playoffs, and I would say was his defining moment from a positive standpoint for Sam this year, that game winning touchdown on the road, was a huge, huge reason that Mike felt very confident about supporting the signing. And even he talked about it. Obviously, having a front row seat in that game, but it was the way that we had game planned against them throughout the week of essentially watching all of his snaps.

And I think sometimes you've got to be careful with that. But like that held, it was held in high regard when it came to their head coach, that performance and his performance previously, because that was before the last couple games. But watching Sam Darnold talk and right before that they tweeted out like the, I don't think it's called Periscope anymore, but YouTube wherever it streamed at on Twitter, is Seattle had put something out on Gino Smith, who clearly resurrected his career in Seattle and became a really solid player.

And you start thinking about some of the players in the NFL. Like, it's a no-brainer when you talk about the star players. Like, Patrick Mahomes is good immediately. Right. Josh Allen after year one was sweet. Lamar Jackson was pretty incredible from early on. Right? Joe Burrell's been pretty fucking good as long as he's been healthy.

Justin Herbert had like one of the great rookie seasons we've ever seen and he was thrown in because Tyrod Taylor got a needle to his kidney. Most guys see a lot of crap. Honestly, historically, a lot of like great players. You know, Drew Brees was basically told, you're out of here for Philip Rivers. You know, Steve Young was a backup for a long period of time to Joe Montana, but before that was not viewed as a good player in Tampa Bay.

And I think sometimes with quarterbacks, you know, so many other players, because you get to rotate in, kind of battle through stuff. And when you're bad early on your career, most guys aren't incredible day one. Most guys aren't just like Aaron Donald or Justin Jefferson, even great players.

They go through adversity. And that's usually, and I think most people would agree in any line of work, that's how you learn. Like, you usually don't learn that much when everything's going well. Why is that?

Because you don't like look that much inward. You don't have that much perspective on things because things are good and you don't have to overthink anything. And when things are bad, you kind of got to like lay it all on the table and look yourself in the mirror. And I think Sam Darnold, I think Gino Smith and I think Baker Mayfield are good examples of like Pete Carroll just traded a third round pick for a 35 year old quarterback. Why? Because he kind of swears by the guy. And I think he thinks that

like Gino's a really impressive person, obviously on top of a solid player. And when you look at what Baker Mayfield has done down in Tampa how much I'm not even talking about how well he's played but how much the guys on that team like him I don't know if they would be where they're at without kind of going through the Andy Dufrein sewer and coming out on the other end and listen I'm done psycho analyzing what Aaron Rogers you know or why it's taking him so long

when he's going to make a decision at this point in time I'm assuming he's going to continue to play like that is my assumption. He's either going to play on the Giants or more than likely the Pittsburgh Steelers. And I think a lot of people think that he's waiting to announce it at McAfee's deal, which I was like, oh, that makes some sense. McAfee's doing this live show in Pittsburgh. But then I Google it, the McAfee shows not until like April 9th. Like that would be insanity. If that is true and he announces on April 9th, like that's, we've jumped the shark on that. And I don't think he's going to wait that long. Like I understand like doing some, you know,

thinking long and hard, though from a football perspective, I think the Pittsburgh Steelers is an easy decision, assuming that they want them. But, you know, for the first time in a long time, Aaron's really kind of hit the skids. Like, they were really, really terrible. And people are talking about, like, is your career over? Like, it's not, the box score doesn't look that terrible. But when you watch you play, you're a shell of yourself. And you're kind of done. And that might be true. But like, that humbled all these other guys. Everyone talks shit about Sam Darnold. Everyone talks shit about Baker Mayfield. People thought Gino Smith was like a joke. And look at them now. They're all making $30, $40 million. And Baker Mayfield second the league

in touchdowns. Sam Darnold just had a team in the playoffs. You know, Gino Smith, I think three straight years, nine, nine, ten wins in Seattle once they kicked Russell Wilson to the curb. Like we've seen, Russell Wilson, no matter what happens, negative is the same guy. Same cheesy, optimistic BS. Like Russell's time to pivot, bro. This ain't working. And I think Rogers, in a weird way, is a little more real, but also like he's been so used to held to such high esteem by every human being. One of the greatest ever. You're so good. You're going to carry the team. Hell even the Jets. You're going to save our franchise. And it's like, not only you're not going to save our franchise, you're going to be an embarrassment.

And if he does come back to play, I do wonder if there's a little like self-reflection and a little humility to like make you a better player, a better teammate, because it clearly works for these other guys. Now, it's usually harder on the other end when you've been a superstar to change. You know, the old sayings like you don't teach an old dog new tricks. And at this point in time, Aaron Rogers made, I don't know, $400 million. MVP's maybe he just is what he is and I listen I'm not saying that he's going to change but like smart guy like there's no chance that maybe it's like a little humility moving forward time will tell mac Jones 49ers kind of a full circle moment because like most people it was highly publicized and highly reported on that for a long period of time it was like Kyle Shanhan is going to take mac Jones with the number three overall pick which I said at the time would have been the most insane draft pick in the history of the NFL.

And I think we're kind of pivoting off this time of, I don't care what you do for a living. Like the best of the best. Like the price of admission is working hard, getting up early, working late, you know, putting in a lot of effort, going above and beyond. Like all the basic high level stuff. Like that's the price of admission in any competitive business with a lot of money. the line. Like what really separates the high end, like some people are just more talented than others. Period point blank end of story. Some people are just better at what they do than their peers, whether it's the top sales guy, whether it's the top quarterback, whether it's the top

dude on Wall Street. And that's what like I love about pro sports is watching the talent separate. And when you play starting quarterback in the NFL, like it's pretty clear of all the top guys in the league, like the top five or six, their talent is immense. Mahomes, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. I would say Joe Burrell has the least amount of attributes, but he's just so instinctive and so good in terms of not the greatest athlete, not the biggest arm, but he's clearly just an elite player and his instincts are unreal. Matt Stafford is long in the tooth now, but like just an all-time great talent, like was drafted number one overall for a reason. And then it started this crew of guys like Mac Jones, right, who just doesn't have great physical skills. So even if they

maximize everything and they're drafted in the perfect situation, their upside is always going to be limited. It's the conversation right now with Shador Sanders. So many of these conversations are so stupid around Shador Sanders. The main question people have is like, is he, does he have the elite skill set to be a top 10 player. And that's highly up for debate in NFL teams. Where people go, doesn't mean you're going to be a good

or a bad player. Do you have the physical characteristics? Like Cam Ward. Cam Ward could be the worst quarterback in the NFL or he could be the sixth best quarterback in the NFL. But he does have high-end traits. Guys like Mack Jones and Kenny Pickett do not. And historically, those type players got

drafted between like the third and the six round. And then we went through this time where guys like Mack Jones were even talked about and discussed going number three overall. He ends up going 15th. Kenny Pickett goes 20th. Those are two of the most insane draft picks of my lifetime. Now, you could go look at a guy like Brock Purdy, who also doesn't have a great set of physical gifts. He probably got pushed down because of these other failures with being the last pick in the draft. He probably should have gone in like the fifth round. But again, like, these should be low risk selections.

Because for them to hit, everything has to go perfect. And when things get kind of derailed, they have limitations. So when I see this conversation of like, could Mac Jones be leveraged for Brock Purdy? They're two separate conversations. Mac Jones isn't remotely as good as Brock Purdy. It's not even close. Because back to the Joe Burrell thing, there's an instinctive, nature to playing quarterback that Brock has, that Mack simply does not.

Not as good of athlete. Hell, not as even a good of an arm. And I think when you look at Kyle Shanahan, he has always kind of been obsessed. And it's why the Trey Lance thing, looking back, made no sense. I think he was kind of desperate, and he was kind of hoping to, like, hit his Josh Allen, clearly blew up in his face and he's pivoted back, you know, kind of to the lane he's the most comfortable. And that's taking guys like this.

But ideally taking guys like this, you don't have to pick very high. Right? So I do think it's just kind of fascinating. Guy like Mac Jones should be a 10-year backup. Can he picket? I don't know if it'll be a 10-year backup, but should be, I think Mac Jones is a better player in Kenny Pickett, but should be a backup in the NFL for several years, five, six years,

like starting now. So they'll have an eight, nine, 10-year career. And I hopefully, as we pivot away from this, like overdrafting quarterbacks who lack the, physical attributes, you are setting yourself up to fail. And you will find yourself in situations that you'll be like, how did this happen? And it's called overdrafting the player. Who's scoring big in the NBA this season?

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Some of it could be American Airlines. For a large portion of my life, I've flown Southwest because when I've lived on the West Coast, you kind of stick to going to Southern California, going to Vegas, coming to Arizona, maybe, you know, Pacific Northwest, like Seattle. And Southwest had the cheapest flights. They also had the ability to get two free backs. So it was like a bargain airline, which was just highly efficient. Like most people I knew that flew Southwest, like never complain. It was easy.

It was cheap. Those days are long gone. And I said this. I think when I was looking at flights, maybe, what was that to the Super Bowl or might have at home during Christmas. I remember looking at like American Airlines first class flight wasn't that much more than just flying Southwest home. So the prices are no longer even competitive in terms of like it's not even that cheap. Now they have officially announced there's no longer random seating. So they're just going to be like every other airline. You buy a specific seat and there are no free backs.

So their greatest advantage is now gone. Southwest is going to be this airline that you use. You to be like could hang his hat on like best deal best deal at the airport to now it's like it's might be the worst deal at the airport so i'm fascinated to watch what southwest what happens there i also and i talked about this last week drinking on the plane i do think like again i don't fly i've flown more times on american airlines the last six months than i probably have in my life i wouldn't say splurge because one i had some i had some like uh vouchers or you know whatever flyer miles that basically the flight was turned out to be a couple hundred bucks but like i i think they're first class and i've flown first class like less than five times in my life pretty

overrated experience and i was talking to someone obviously there are certain airlines you know delta united depending on the flight are way better experience but domestic first class can be a little overrated uh because it's like what am i really getting like you're if you can fly for half as much in the business section, you get the same amount of leg room. Maybe you don't get a meal, but it's like, I don't want to fucking eat this meal anyway.

It's like, you know, microwaved enchiladas. Again, I'm just speaking for American. I thought it was we took it on our way to our wedding and then we flew Southwest home. It wasn't that big a difference, to be honest with you. The other thing was, there's just a couple quick rant.

It is funny how some people, and it's hard. for me to put myself in their shoes are just really terrified of public speaking. And obviously there's a different level of public speaking getting up and speaking at a wedding than like getting up and speaking in front of 10,000 people.

I'm not acting like that would be easy. But I remember speaking at just different weddings, but specifically my brothers and not even really thinking twice about it. You just got up, told some jokes and said some things that probably made some people uncomfortable but also lightened up the room. And I didn't even think twice about it.

And then at my wedding, I was, my brother was going to give a speech. And I was expecting him to just, you know, talk a little shit, say a couple of zingers and just get a couple laughs. Turns out, I'm watching him at like the cocktail hour after we get done taking pictures. He's like pacing. Like, is Jeff okay? And it's like, yeah, he's really nervous. I'm like, nervous for what? They're like, the speech.

I'm like, the speech. Just say a couple lines of me doing dumb stuff and say love me and move on. I mean, it's not. And then we eat dinner and I have to go like, I have to go to the bathroom. So I leave to go to the bathroom. And speeches are probably in like 10 minutes. And I come back in and I look and I see one piece of like steak. And no one else has any food on their table. And there's just one piece of steak. I'm like, has everyone eaten? Has the food come out yet? Because I'd already eaten probably 10 minutes before. They're like, yeah, everyone's eating. They've already taken the food away. I'm like, whose steak is that? They're like, that's generally. your brother. He's like he can't eat. I'm like, why? I'm like, he's terrified. And then he gives, you know, like, probably a 20 second speech. And I just realized like, and even he told me, some people are just very, very uncomfortable doing that. And I think we take for granted, like someone like myself who I just, it's not only not saying that I don't get anxiety about certain things in life. Like I don't love, you know, looking at my portfolio the last couple weeks.

That gets my ticker moving. But I just thought that, It's not even a thing. And I actually thought he, you know, he'd be good. And it turns out, and I almost had him, you know, run the part of the wedding. What's it called the, not the or, I can't even think of the word. You know, like the, acts like the priest. And he clearly wanted no part of it. Now looking back, I'm glad I had Guy do it.

And last but not least, I also. wanted to get married. After you hit a certain age, I was like, I'm going to get married at the, I'm just going to get married at the courthouse. Like, I don't need a wedding. You know, I'm 35, 36, 37 years old. Whenever I get married, I'm going to get married at the courthouse. Easy in and out. And I was a huge believer in that. And I was adamant. Like, that's what I'm going to do. If we, whatever money we'd put toward the wedding, like put it towards something else. Put it in the stock market. Put it, buy a second home. I don't know. Let's do something else with it. And then Maria was adamant. He's like, I'm having a wedding. And I remember years ago, I was at some function and I was talking to

this guy whose wife was a wedding planner and him just telling me, because I remember telling him this, he's like, I think it would be a mistake. It'd be something you remember, whether it's big or small, but like you should have a wedding with your family and at least your closest friends. And I remember when we went into the courthouse to get the you got to get the paper to like get signed to be officially married and thinking

I'm really glad that I didn't just do this. Luckily in my life I've haven't gotten trouble like I started thinking like when's the last time I've been to the courthouse besides like a field trip when I was like 12 I don't think I've ever been to the courthouse so my thought of the courthouse is more much more

based on like television or something you would see on television and then you go in you're like this would have been an awful decision and looking back on getting married last week and we didn't have a big wedding it was like 60 people and a lot of you know family really really close friends and that was kind of it like it was it was really small and i'm really glad that we did that and i was i wouldn't say talked in because i was into it pretty early like i was cool with it but like i changed my tune pretty hard. Like it was a hard pivot because I swear like I was set in stone. I'm getting married at the courthouse. Then you go into the courthouse and you're like people getting dragged in here for dewees and you know getting in trouble and you got this going on here. It's like you got

metal detectors here. It's like yeah, I don't know if that's the greatest vibe. So any recommendation to young people that ever have that in their mind, even if you just get married with, you know, your parents, her parents and like some brothers and sisters. or something, I would recommend doing something where you can look back and at least have your family to just enjoy a nice dinner or something. Because it is a pretty cool night. The officiant. The officiant is the name I was looking for. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?

Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking. I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers.

This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast. People could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

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So if you asked a question, and I haven't even come close to answering it over the last week, like either re-ask it or, you know, throw another comment and it'll kind of come back up near the top. So I would recommend that if you want to get questions because it's the off-season and obviously I'm going to need you guys. You guys are part of the team here.

Question for the bag. What do you make of the Chargers off-season? I know we will be primarily building through the draft. Resigning our studs. Mack and hopefully this later, will you guys resign Mac? Maybe you meant that. And look to avoid overpaying free agents.

But looking at our cap space, we have as much as any team in the league and didn't make any signings. I wasn't looking at overpaying any stars, but thought we could build up our depth and retain starters like Puna Ford and J.K. Dobbins. Wanted your take on Harbaugh's second offseason as he builds the team in his image. Many are critical of our offseason, but I've... See, this is... We talked about this earlier.

You have to pay such a premium to get any of these players. players. So let's say you're the Chargers and you got some space. I don't have your cap space in front of me, but more than enough space to sign a couple sweet guys. It's like, okay, you're just going to sign like Josh Sweat, the dude who went to the Cardinals for like 90 million and a ton of guaranteed. Are you going to sign Milton Williams for 25, 26? Like I, you're already a playoff team signing a big contract like that limit your flexibility. An underrated part about cap space is you can roll it over. So if you're a good team and you don't feel comfortable

overpaying, because that's what you have to do the last week. You overpay. Which if the guy's solid for you, okay. But like you're looking for now difference makers. So when you give Khalil Mack $18 million, again, it's been a long week, a little fuzzy, but I remember seeing the

Chargers re-sign Kalil Mac $18 million. You feel really good about that. Even if it's a little overpay, you go, he's our type guy. Jim likes him. He fits our culture. When you sign these outside guys, you know, it's kind of risky.

So I got no problem not playing in the deep end. This notion, too, that they were going to sign, like, they're not going to give T. Higgins $100 million. They were never going to trade for D.K. McHaff. Like, it's not how Harbaugh does business. I think I'd have full faith is going to be pretty good. I did question a little bit. Naji Harris, who actually, I think the last couple years

has looked the best of his NFL career. they gave him $10 million. Again, I'm not Mike Florio here breaking down the contract, so I just kind of take it on face value until I read otherwise. But he's making decent money. Jim Harbaugh, when I lived in the Bay Area, Najee Harris was the biggest star in the Bay Area. He went to Antioch High School,

and he was being recruited by Alabama. Well, Jim Harbaugh was trying to sign him as well and used to recruit the hell out of him at Michigan. So, like, that's one of those that Jim's liked since he was in high school, Well, now he finally got him. Guys on the wedding. Funny enough, my dad was also in Nashville this past weekend. I have a question for the mailbag.

Why do you think it's a bad idea for the Browns to extend Miles Garrett? I don't believe that they are that far away from contending. They won 11 games and made the playoffs in 23 with a heavily injured roster. I think all they need is competent quarterback play and they'll be right back in the playoffs. Well, I didn't, like, trust me, I would want Miles Garrett. on my team. And I didn't just come up with the idea, like, let's trade him. He came out and said, trade me.

If Miles Garrett had said, like, I want to be a brown, I would have done exactly what they did. Pam. Like, you're in the business of keeping. But once he goes, I want out. And you go, we got this Deshawn Watson disaster. We got the number two overall pick. I just thought it would have been a time to kind of blow it up.

And not even blow it up. Like you said, you still got good players. You just kind of get a bunch of first round pick. It's like transitional period. and they obviously threw a bunch of money at him, which I respect. Like they, they kind of went old school.

He's like, I want to trade. And I don't think he was just bullshit. Like, I think he was pretty adamant. He was going on the shows. He was doing it. And they're like,

we're going to offer you so much money. Good luck saying no. And I'll say this about Jimmy Haslam. They pay. They pay a lot of cash. And this is what I said about like, if Shador had gone into that interview, like you'd want,

like you get really, really rich with that. team, like really rich. I mean, he pays more than any team in the league. When will NFL GMs wake up? NFL quarterback is the only position in pro sports and really the only job in the

economy, where they pay a mediocre person the same as the best person in their field. An average quarterback should not be paid what Mahomes makes because quote, he's the next up. That's what the market is. No, it isn't. They're overpaying.

I've never understood that. and I understand the revenue sharing, the way the business partnership works. Because that's, while the NFL owns, you know, the owners own the teams, they're still in a partnership with the players and you've got to pay. Like there is a 50-50 or 48, 52 or whatever the exact percentage. There's a revenue split. It's essentially 50-50. And you got to pay the players.

So I think they look at it. We got to pay somebody. but to me if you want to win and you're giving a quarterback who you know is probably not a top 10 quarterback $150, $200 million. I always think you're an idiot and it's like, well, just what else am I going to do?

I don't know. There's got to be figured out other options, see what else is out there, play out the contract. That's always my symbol. Play out the contract. It's like Brock Purdy wants $200 million, which if his agent called and said that, I wouldn't blame him.

That's what Trevor Lawrence got. If I was the Niners, be like, here's $125. Like, well, that's not what the market is. Well, then fine. We'll play out next year. We'll play again next year on $1.5 million. We'll give you $125 million guaranteed right now.

I know you want $200, but we'll give $125,000, or we can play next year for $1.5 million. You want to do that? Because if you do, that's like that. What we'll do? I think some of these teams have lost the logic of having some of this leverage. And I think a lot of times people don't want to deal with the holdouts and stuff, which I get. but it's insane. It's like,

if Josh Allen makes $250 million, what's Tua, a $50 million guarantee? Is Josh Allen five times better than Tua Tonga by Lua? I'm not trying to hate on Tua. I respect the guy. He's proven he's like a solid player. But Josh is in a different universe.

Lamar's in a different universe. So it's like, well, we got to pay him, what, 80%. Well, what, like you said? the sales guy who brings in $10 million does not make the same as the sales guy that's bringing in $400,000. That guy makes way more money. Shouldn't quarterbacks be compensated on that as well?

Like, this guy's way better by every single metric. But it's just, I don't know. It's just not the way it works. Welcome back Mason Rudolph, I guess. Could you explain to me what the Steelers are doing? Two high drama wide receivers and a backup quarterback? Well, I just think the Rogers thing feels inevitable. And however he's approaching this, he's not in a huge rush.

So I would imagine Aaron Rogers's starting quarterback, Rudolph's your backup and maybe you trade up for like Shador. That would be my educated guess as we sit here Thursday, March 13th. In a league obsessed with numbers, metrics, and analytics, how does the observations about a player quote unquote losing a step stand up I understand when a player time to the combine when they're 21 or so

surely we'll lose a step when they're 33 I see from time to time and rarely where they are able to track the speed of a player using the chip still there really is no continuing commentary on player speed from year to year I'm guessing there is no time 40 during the season

So other than a subjective evaluation by a commenter based only on a player getting a year or two older, say 28 to 30, the commenting that he has lost a step is something to be taken with a grain of salt. Totally agree. I mean, they're not, when he's lost a step, they're not like quantifying it with a numeric value. Like if one time the guy was a nine, now he's a seven and a half, this isn't, you know, Madden where his speed rating, you know, his energy and a game.

game has gone down by half. But I think coaches, when you're evaluating a player, you know, like Andy Reid can watch a guy and go, this guy's not as good as he was three years ago, on my own team or on a team I compete against. Because I have a base of knowledge of watching him. If he's on your own team for several years, let's just pick, I don't know, I'm trying to think.

I'm trying to think of a good example. It'd have to be an older player. Let's use Kyle Usecheck. let's say the 49ers think he's lost his step and Eusecheck thinks he has not lost his step well Kyle for nine years or eight I guess eight I keep saying nine's eight years has evaluated every snap of Kyle Eusechek's career

so he can watch him and he can base it on and he can just pull up film see what he looked like in 2020 or 21 again that's a that's a bad it's kind of a niche player as a fullback but like tackle guards. I remember when I was with the Eagles and we signed Ronnie Brown. I remember the first snap or first couple snaps of like OTAs. It looked like he was running in concrete. Like, why does this guy look so slow? And it turns out his legs are to shot. That's the other thing with football.

You know, it's such a, you know, running back at wide receiver, at corner, at linebacker. Footspeed is a pretty big deal. Like you can get away with a little bit of guard or center or even defensive tackle as long as you still have a little burst. but like if you're a running back and you lose a step, like that's, that's a problem. Huge Ohio State fan. Do you think Ryan Day would ever make a good NFL coach? He has a good track record putting quarterbacks in the first round and is a good offensive play caller.

He does have flaws, but notably tightening up in big games occasionally. But isn't the NFL always looking for offensive gurus and quarterback development coaches? Well, I got to remove my bias as a well-known Ohio State hater. he doesn't call the plays though and he hasn't called the plays when's the last time Ryan Day called the plays it feels like it's been a couple years could be wrong

obviously didn't call him this year in their national championship year maybe he called him two years ago did he take it away from what's his name the who's your wide receiver coach that makes a bunch of money that's now the offensive coordinator listen people I know that know him personally that worked with him in the NFL with the Niners

and the Eagles like him a lot. He's very well thought of. I mean, I just, sometimes everyone's hanging the left. I got to right. I've never had a negative interaction with a guy. People like him. You know, clearly pretty impressive guy. That's not an easy job. Handled it pretty well. We nitpick them some of this big game losses. I do think it's hard to be a tough guy because Michigan has just out-tuffed him when you're just not as tough as certain opponents. So when you lean into that, Like you're not going to get in the ring and go blow for blow with Mike Tyson, Ray Van der Holyfield.

You're going to have to fight them differently. And maybe he learned that and it kind of made him pivot once he hit the playoffs. And then he just kind of, I mean, it's one of the great playoff runs in recent memory. Blue out Tennessee, blew out Oregon. Who did they play then? Texas. I don't even remember that game against Texas. I wouldn't say blew him out, but it was in control of that game.

and obviously Notre Dame was up big. He's good. There's no disputing it. He's good. Congrats on the nuptials. Totally agree on the silicon rings. Rubber. Silicon, same thing. My question is this.

The draft by most sources is loaded at defensive line. Is there a edge rusher you like that would be the difference maker available at the end of the first to pair with Aidan Hutchinson to help the lion's biggest weakness? I've got to dive a little deeper into the draft I'd be lying if I have a great feel for late first, early second round players.

You know, the guys I focused on is, I would say, the defensive tackle from Michigan, the obviously Abdul Carter from Penn State. I do think the guy from Stewart from Texas A&M that tested like a freak but only has four and a half career sacks, I would just base on his testing and just the way he looks. there's no chance he would be there. Like, ideally, guys like that should be in the 20s. It's like, you know, wasn't a very productive player tested like a freak. But I also think you need to be careful of those.

Like when the Packers took the dude from Iowa who tested like a freak but never started and then it's like he's a bust. Yeah, I mean, I think you could go detackle or defense event. You just need to get someone who can penetrate with Hutchinson. Because if you get another high-end pass rusher with that guy, holy shit. So I don't think it necessarily has to be, you said defensive line. Yeah, tackle or end. I think there's just a lot of them.

I mean, I think a lot of people think, like, of the top 30 players, probably like 11 or 12 defensive linemen. So if you just do the math, there are going to be some wide receivers, running backs and offensive linemen and clearly a couple quarterbacks, they're going to come off the board. So there is going to be, you know, some high-end defensive linemen at the end of the first round, which can be pretty rare. And then if you do draft a defensive line,

you just need him and you need the corner you took last year from Bama. If those guys over the next couple years can be kind of cornerstone players with Aiden, all of a sudden your defense with Jack Campbell, Aidan Hutchinson, Terry on Arnold, Branch, who's like the safety nickel from Bama, who's sweet, who's really good. All of a sudden, your defense looks a little like your offense. Like, you guys are good at every position or got impact guys at every position. Every time this year, I can't help but reminisce. and marvel at the fact that Jason Peters was a tight end in college and not only became one of

the best offensive tackles of all time, but was undrafted. I was curious since you were a former scout, did you or do you know if scouts always have their eye on potential prospects like that? Not necessarily tight end or offensive tackle every time but an athletic offensive guard that could can be a fullback. I think in every draft there are guys who, you know, can do position flexibility. When I first got out of scouting and started doing radio, the 49ers drafted Bruce Miller, who was a defensive lineman,

I think it South Florida or Central Florida, and they turned into fullback. And he was a good fullback. You know, the Chargers have a defensive lineman that plays fullback. So like that position is somewhat possible. We'd also, and I know buddies that still do, look at college basketball, kind of that tight end position.

Could the guy be a defensive lineman? Could the guy be an offensive tackle? or could the guy be a tied end? But those, I do think those situations are kind of outliers. You know, I don't know about Jason Peters' college experience. He went to Arkansas. But he clearly, I mean, by the time I was around Jason Peters, he weighs 340 pounds.

So obviously he didn't weigh that in college. But even if he weighed 270 pounds in college, there used to be tight ends that weighed 260, 270, 280 pounds. What was the dude, if you're my age or older, you know, Tony Gonzalez in Kansas City, they had a second tight end. His last name was done. He was basically like a third tackle

because Tony wasn't that big of a blocker. So you kind of had to have your second tight end be a blocking tight end. And I think that, yeah, I mean, I think when you look at a player, sometimes there's a wide receiver in college. And I'm sure there's a guy like this every year or two where you go, you know, he's kind of big. and he's not fast enough to play outside.

Couldn't he just be like a hybrid slot? Could he get big enough to play tight end? And it happens sometimes. And every once in a while, what was the guy's, Terrell Prior became a wide receiver. You know what's funny is we do it in college all the time. Like a guy comes out of high school,

he's like, I play quarterback and I play safety. Then all of a sudden, by like year two, he's playing running back, or he's playing wide receiver, or he's playing corner. It's like you just do whatever you have to, the dude to start for Alabama or Texas or whatever. But when you come to the pros,

no one ever wants to change positions. It's like, what if you change positions, you become a 10-year pro and you make millions of dollars? For the bag. I know you're not a big fan of them, but I have a hypothetical for you. If the Chiefs don't trade up to jump the Saints in 2017,

do you think Mahomes has similar success in New Orleans? Peyton at head coach, Dennis Allen, a defensive coordinator, and guys like Joe Brady, Dan Campbell, Aaron Glenn on staff. I've, I'm not anti-hypatheticals. I just think sometimes, you know, the draft one, which I'm guilty and a sucker for, is kind of a waste of energy.

I do think this one is a pretty cool pivot point in the NFL because that moment, let's face it, led Sean Payton to quitting and now being on the Broncos. Because if Sean Payton has Patrick Mahomes, maybe they don't have three Super Bowls, probably got one or two. I mean, it's fucking Patrick Mahomes. Sean Payton, like Andy Reid, is offensive genius. And that team was good. So I think it's fair to assume that he would still be there.

But you have those moments sometimes where it's like, what if instead of Baker Mayfield at one overall, Josh Allen had gone to the Browns? Because we remember that draft was, or gone to the Jets at number three. Because it was Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Josh Rosen, and then Lamar Jackson. I don't think I'm mixing drafts there

but think about that like where you go matters and I think the example you use because clearly the Saints liked them they were pretty good and it was a pretty awesome place for a quarterback to play so my guess is it would have worked at the level of the Chiefs I don't know

I think that's I think that's unfair to say that will work that well would they have been a double-digit win team every single year been in the playoffs and had high seats I think that's fair to assume. Lifelong Dolphins fan.

Last time we won a playoff game, I wasn't diapers. What do you think of the Zach Wilson signing? I think it's an absolute joke given Tua's injury history. Do you think the Dolphins intentionally signed bad backups so that Tua does not feel threatened? Also, would you say the dolphins are the softest team in the league? It seems like any time they are met with a little bit of adversity or cold weather, the team collapses. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I will say this is Sean Payton liked him,

but didn't like him enough to make him the backup quarterback. So I think when you look, like Mac Jones was the backup quarterback last year, right? So you go, Kyle Shanahan, you signed Mac Jones, you're the backup, and I'm paying you $5 million. But you look at Justin Fields, like he gets benched and then the Jets give him $30 million. Pretty bold. In this situation, you're taking another team's third string, quarterback to turn him into the backup. So Sean

Peyton could have chose because I knew another team that had planned on signing Jared Stidham. And Sean Payton clearly didn't want to lose him because he resigns him. But if you like Zach Wilson as much, he would have been like, okay, take him. I'll just keep Zach Wilson for five or six million. Now, maybe there's a dynamic of Stidham's older. Yeah, I don't know. Is Zach Wilson good? Based on what we know right now, you would say no. I do think it's,

felt like he matured and people liked him a lot more in Denver than what had happened with the Jets. But like what were your other options? It sounded like Daniel Jones, Gardner Minchew. Like once you're paying your quarterback as much as you guys are, your backup's probably going to be kind of random. Look who Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson's backups are. Mahomes' backup was Henny. And then Carson Wentz. Okay, a couple more.

You said multiple times last season Last season was the worst The Broncos and Chargers will be for the foreseeable future I agree with you until free agency I'm a diehard Bronco fan But just as a football fan and a fan of Herbert and Harbaugh Are the Chargers actually better After Free Agency

Notable moves are retaining Mac Jalen Rager Signing Naji Harris, Dante Jackson And reuniting with Mike Williams honestly, I must have missed that. I didn't even see that one. Michael Williams on the Chargers again? They lost Bosa.

I mean, they cut them. They lost Gus Edwards, Josh Palmer, and likely J.K. Dobbins. Everyone in our division closed the gap on the Chiefs except the Chargers. We got Ufungan Greenlaw, Anne Ingram,

who chose us over the Chargers and retained DJ Jones. Raiders kind of sort of upgraded a quarterback. No, they did. Yeah, I mean, I think part of Harbaugh is the guys they drafted last year, they expect them to be better. So they go, we expect Joe Alt to be an all pro.

We expect Ladd-McConkie to be a top 10 wide receiver, top 15 wide receiver. We expect a linebacker we drafted from Michigan to be much, like that's how he looks at it. He looks at it from a college perspective. Like, I'm developing these young. I expect Herbert to be better. I'm better than my competition.

So I think we, you can't just assume based on free agency teams are better and worse. I mean, most of my college years in the 2000s, Dan Snyder won free agency every single year.

Bought all the players, every single free agency. And it never worked out. So this is part of buying players in free agency. It's fun and it's huge headlines and we don't have anything else going on. It doesn't guarantee you crap. It really doesn't.

Listen, I've said, I love Hufunga and Greenlaw. I mean, I love Drey Greenlaw. Dreyne Law is a bad ass. He tore his Achilles. He tried to come back, and his hamstring and other injuries started happening. Like, I hope he's okay, but there is no guarantee that, like, his lower extremities are all going to, you know, match up. Love Hufunga. Tore his ACL.

Then he fucked up his shoulder and his thumb, and he missed a bunch of games. last year. Part of the reason the Niners are letting him go is like they got this other kid named Mustafa who hits just like who funga, who I even saw that St. Browner in his podcast when he had Debo on was like, might have been the hardest I got hit all year. So again, like I would rather have those guys on my team than not, but they've missed a lot of games. And I just think sometimes these guys, no player, like the Chargers didn't want Joey Bosa anymore. It's not like they lost Joey Bosa.

They cut him. They did not want him on the team anymore. They want Khalil Mac back. They don't want him. I'm not trying to like defend. I just think sometimes in free agency, you can basically keep any player you really want to keep. The Chargers would never let Slater go.

Harbaugh would not let Durwin James go. but like yeah i could i could do without this guy so if you are a player available during free agency there's a reason behind it i could have kept you well we didn't have the space well i'll cut other guys i'll make i'll figure it out this is a puzzle and i control the pieces okay last question i feel like some people are sleeping on the packers there is an opportunity for improvement but they're essentially bringing back the same roster and added to free agents who are huge upgrades. We know that Jordan Love played hurt all year.

Their receivers in O-line played well below expectations. And they gave the Eagles a tough game. How do you feel about the state of the Packers? I say this all the time. I said this when people start DMing me, should we fire a LaFlor? Like, guys, you're going to be okay. I would like my chances now more even than six months ago

that a lot of question marks with J.J. McCarthy and the Vikings. We can say whatever we want about Sam Darnold. Last year he played really well. And there is absolutely no guarantee. If J.J. McCarthy has Sam Darnold's season, Vikings fans will be doing fucking cartwheels down the hallway. So you went one in five in the division.

How often are you going to be a playoff team, which I would bet on the backers be a playoff team next year, and go one and five in the division? So if you go three and three in the division, vision, you're probably more likely to be a 12 or 13 win team. Now, is Jordan Love was last year just a banged up year? Was last year more what he's going to be? That's what he's, we got a small sample size with him, right?

We have eight games, eight good games, his first year, which is fair. He'd never started. Last year was injured, would have some moments, then have some bad moments. A lot of unknown still with him. I still would bet on it just because we've seen the good. We've seen him play high end. We've seen him play well in a playoff game. but receivers are a little bit of a question mark

what's his name's got multiple concussions Watson tore his ACL you got to feel good about Jacobs you got to feel good about your tied end like you said you needed a guard so you overpaid banks coach is good your GM's good you're gonna be okay Packer fans and I get it

you just you've kind of been in the same spot now for a while you're gonna be fine it wouldn't shot You might be able to compete to win the division next year Right now if I was handicapping the NFC North Because all the Lions guys At least going in this will be healthy I'd go Lions

Which again New coordinators No lock But I'd give them the benefit of the doubt Lions Then I think it's a coin flip Between you and the Vikings Because it's like JJ McCarthy

I don't know I'd probably give you the benefit of doubt right now Until JJ proves me otherwise and the bears are going to be improved. So that division is good. It really is. But the likelihood of you're going one and five in that thing again, it would be low.

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We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was harmed. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Mark keep coming to him. He's like, you know, I love you, dog.

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