The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Jayden Daniels hype, Nick Foles retires, Fugazi Friday

Episode Date: August 9, 2024

John opens the show talking about how everyone from his own teammates and coaches to players on other teams have been praising Jayden Daniels and how if he has a good season, it could drastically change the outlook for the Commanders. Later, John dives into what the pre-season means for players on the bubble and how many realistic open roster spots there are heading into the season, the reaction to Nick Foles retiring, a story about Aaron Rodgers and his relationship with his father, and lastly, the return of Fugazi Friday. Later, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 8:20 - Jayden Daniel hype 20:20 - Pre-season roster spots 34:20 - Nick Foles retires 39:06 - Aaron Rodgers and his family 45:23 - Fugazi Friday 53:11 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And a lot of hype coming out of Washington on Jaden Daniels, So I want to discuss that. With the preseason game starting, I'm recording this before Thursday night preseason, but we got preseason games Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So football is going to be on all of our TVs in the background, NFL network, whatever, depending on what city you live in, the local team, the local broadcast, which is pretty special.

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when you're trying to develop a quarterback. And he discussed why so many quarterbacks fail because of their expectations. I'm going to disagree. I think a lot of quarterbacks fail because they're not good enough. This pro football, it is really, really difficult. They go to bad teams, they get bad coordinators,

they get bad talent, like any young person, you lose any confidence you have. you can get destroyed and the way and the speed in which the NFL works, you don't have time. There are small examples of guys that just didn't care. You know, Jim Marcus Russell is probably the best example of all time, of a guy who literally did not give a shit. But I think most guys, at least over the last decade plus, tried, put in good effort and they simply were not good enough.

Like, this is the best of the best. This is the 1% of the 1%. it is difficult to play in the NFL. I say it all the time. I am much more comfortable being critical of coaches because I think it is much easier to become a coach in the NFL than it is to become a player. And listen, guys fumble, guys make a bad pass, guys miss a tackle.

Football's hard. Now, when you consistently make mistakes, I'd argue it's on the coach, pull them out of the game. But the hype machine, listen, it doesn't matter that much if you're a GM or you're a coach. or you're a player. You ultimately have to produce. And that's all that matters.

But us on the outside, us that talk about football, fans, kind of like it. It kind of makes this whole thing fun. I was just watching the Team USA game. Part of what made that game so riveting, it was fantastic, was because of the hype around the team. Right. And there was substance behind it. We have some of the greatest players in the history of the game on it.

And it's like, they're going to lose to Joker and a bunch of other guys that none of us could point out of the lineup. It was incredible television. And the cool part, and this is why I always defend the draft, the draft is part of the business model of the NFL. That moment, the hype train of the players coming in, the excitement that it gives fans of hope that they can turn things around. That's real.

And that plays a part into the revenue stream that ultimately the players essentially get a 50-50 split of. so I've always defended like the excitement around draft time it's why whenever a player is drafted especially in the first round you will never not see an static draft room

even though we know you know on average 16 of the 32 guys will not get second contracts with the team let alone become star players even the guys that get second contracts that doesn't mean you become J.J. Watt, right? Or Patrick Mahomes, that just means you're a really good player, right? Maybe you make a

pro bowl or two. But when I draft a guy in the top 10, the top five, my expectations are for you to become a star. From the team, from the owner, from the fans, from us talking about it, that's the way this whole thing works. And there is an incredible amount of hype around Caleb Williams. Part of that started years ago when he kicked Spencer Rattler to the curb, who's about to be Derek Carr's backup quarterback in New Orleans, turned out like actually he's not terrible, pretty good player, then what he did at USC two years ago, winning the Heisman Trophy, and obviously his physical gifts. But I do think the hype around Jaden Daniels, I wouldn't put it on Caleb's level, but it's pretty high. And a lot like Caleb Williams, he is entrusted with saving a franchise,

saving a franchise. Now, the Bears, over the last 20 years, have had good teams. I mean, some of those Brian Erlacker teams, hell, they went to a Super Bowl, right? And they had countless guys who were the best in the league, and their defense was awesome. Then they went to an NFC championship game

the year Jay Cutler got hurt, and Aaron Rogers ended up winning the Super Bowl. And then, what, six, seven years ago, Matt Nagy's first year with Vic Fangio, the doint game, they were hosting a playoff game. So they have had more success than the Washington franchise. But part of like, you could argue it's harder to save the Washington franchise than it is the Bears franchise. Now, they have not had a quarterback in Chicago really ever.

And there's a new owner in Washington so you don't have the stink of Daniel Snyder. But still, there is going to be a ton of pressure. I worked for the Eagles when RG3 was drafted. It was like he was the savior. Now, he answered the bell immediately and then clearly messed up his knee and was never the same. But coaches, GM, scouts, they're going to have a lot of opinions over the next month. Who's playing well, who's not playing well, who's good, who's not good. That's part of August.

But when opposing players who are really good come out and make bold statements, it makes you go, could this be real? And Soss Gardner, they just practiced for a couple days, said that he went up to Jaden Daniels, this is what he told the reporters, and told him, you are going to be really good. And I don't think you do that randomly just to be nice to a guy. You're playing DB against him in all these drills. You're like, God, this guy's pretty sweet. Earlier this week, Zach Erd said, stop saying he's going to be good. He's good now. And I was just reading a bunch of quotes from Cliff Kingsbury, how he's just blown away by the way this guy's work, like his work ethic.

how focused he is and his study habits. Because a lot of guys, I think, can't handle the mental aspect of being a quarterback. It's really hard. Transitioning from college where you can get by with talent to the NFL where you obviously have to have the talent, but you also have to have this insane amount of mental focus slash mental toughness because you're going to have rough days.

It's a much longer season. Obviously, from a football standpoint, they're throwing so much shit at you, it can be very, very overwhelming. But like the hype on this guy so far has been pretty strong. And I'm fascinated. And now it all falls on the head coach and the GM. Can they coach well enough over the next several years and put enough players around this guy to give him a shot?

And I'm excited to watch. Like it makes it fun. And from talking to all my buddies when I went to the combine, like they thought he was incredible this season. He throws a great deep ball. His arm strength has gotten way better over the years. His decision making, standing in the pocket is way better. Obviously, he's a great athlete moving around.

The one knock on him. And we talked about it on the fantasy podcast. Like, this is what Caleb brings the table. He is just thick. We've said it forever about Kyler, a running quarterback. While he's short, he is built like a little tank. And Jaden is really thin. And I remember when he got the Heisman and he's,

they are standing with the other guys, you're like, God, this guy is really, really skinny. Which, there's nothing wrong with being a young guy and being skinny at any position. Sometimes it happens. It takes a little time to put on weight. But if you are going to be a runner, you have to avoid the hits. Because even in 2024, where everyone's like, oh, they're just a bunch of, you know what. This league is so soft. Well, yeah, relative to the 70s, 80s, and 90s, it is a different sport.

It doesn't mean you won't get hit and get hit really hard when you're running around. while linebackers aren't as big as they once were, right? You don't have a many 260-pound middle linebackers plug in the hole against Lorenzo-Neil in the ISO block. That's not how the game is, I would say, consistently played now. But you get 240-pound guys or 235-pound guys that can run 4-4-4-4-5-40s. And if you're running 4-4, even if you weigh 235 pounds,

I've never been hit in the NFL, but I can't imagine that feels good. And once you cross that line of scrimmage and you're not, not going to slide, you're going to die forward, you are going to get mollywopped. So that's something, and I've always believed you either have this kind of innate feel as a runner that you can avoid hits. And that goes for running backs too. I always thought Frank Gore was definitely not the fastest running back we've seen the last 20 years. Remember he had like eight knee surgeries before he even came out. But he had this incredible knack from not taking big hits.

And I think that's a big reason why he played such a long time. And we've seen quarterbacks, Michael Vicks, a good example, that just wasn't that good at that. He didn't know how to slide. He didn't have a great feel for contact. He was such a tough guy. He wasn't afraid of it. But you were going to lose those battles.

So clearly this guy from a throwing perspective took a gigantic leap. I mean a gigantic leap last year. Now it's going to be about staying healthy and the team building it around him. Because let's face it. I was thinking about this today. I go back and forth and I'm like, I'm going to probably pick him to finish last in the division. If he is good,

like if he has a really good rookie year, their quarterback position is much better off than the Giants. Their quarterback position, depending on how this DAC situation goes, like I'd still be shocked, but as long as he doesn't have a contract and they can't franchise him, who knows if he's on the team next year. Now, you could argue if they are offering anywhere near what he would, get in the open market.

It pays to be the Dallas Cowboys quarterback, literally and figuratively, off the field. But if he were to leave, all of a sudden, Washington, if he just shows signs, they're like, God, they got a real chance. Because listen, all this, what Sabin is right about, we're not playing any games. Even the preseason, that doesn't count. You are judged on the 17 regular season games and how you improve over that period of time. But in theory, this team should be a lot better off next year. in two years.

And if you do it right, and this guy answers the bell, that's why Caleb gets this incredible situation. He goes to the Chicago Bears, who were not drafting one. They just fleece the Panthers. They already had a sweet wide receiver. They had their own pick,

so they draft another guy, and then they trade for Keenan Allen. So he goes to his place with three sweet wide receivers. They sign a running back. They already had a solid defense. It's one of the better landing spots for a number one quarterback in the history of the list. leak. You never go, usually go to the commanders. A team that had cut guys, trade guys last year,

kind of starting over is going to depend on a lot of young guys and just kind of be a work in progress. That's fine. That's usually how it goes. And if you do a good enough job as the front office and the head coach, you can be in great position. And there was a lot of talk before the draft, you know, about, and even I kind of threw it out there because I'm a big swing guy. Like, would have Drake May hits? Could he be like Josh Allen? Could he be like, Josh Allen? Could he be like Justin Herbert. Well, everyone that I knew in the league that has scouted both of them

were like, this guy's just better. And there's just no way you take that risk when this guy, this guy has a high ceiling too. And when you watch him in the SEC, he's a baller. So I'm fascinated to watch this guy. I get excited when I see these quotes because I know the way coaches and GMs talk

with reporters. One, they're going to be really positive during this period of time. But when other players start saying that, like, Zach Ertz won a Super Bowl. Jack Hertz played with Carson Wentz who at one point in time Look like he was going to be the MVP

Zacherts played with Kyle of Murray You know, Soss Gardner plays elite quarterbacks basically Every week or every other week Like he kind of knows what it looks like So I put value in that Let's talk about the preseason Because I think there's

Once these games happen And guys go viral For incredible plays People like, this guy's got to make the team You know when a guy rushes for 100 yards in the second half against four stringers. It's like, this guy is the next star running back in the NFL. Let's just talk overall.

The majority of NFL teams, especially the top, I would say 15, 18 teams in the league, don't have that many open spots on their roster coming into training camp. I would say that number varies anywhere from two to three to four, but kind of that range. Coming into the camp, you don't have that many open spots. I think a lot of people think because, listen, football is a meritocracy, and if you are better than a guy, you will beat him out. But there are complications.

If all things are the same, and this guy's a five-year veteran, and you got guaranteed money on his contract, you will just roll with the veteran guy. Clearly, some coaches feel more comfortable and confident with older players. So coming into most of these cramies, now some teams, if you tell me the Arizona Cardinals or any team with a new coach, yeah, there might be new spots up for grabs. the Washington commanders, a whole new operation, anything could happen, right?

The New England Patriots, you never know. That number is not two or three. That number could get as high as 10. Now, ultimately, if training camp goes and the veterans take care of and outperform younger players, that number might go down to like five pretty quickly. But going into training camp and up until the preseason games, the number isn't that high. It's not what I think the casual person talks when they're BSing about training camp. But here's the thing.

Speaking of veteran players, if I have a veteran player and he's scheduled to make, let's just not crazy amount, but let's say like $7 million. But that number is not guaranteed. And I have a young guard. He's a guard. And I have a young guard that I drafted in the fifth round. So that guy is a fifth rounder. There's no guarantee to make the team either.

if that guy is equal or I view like within a couple months that guy might be better I usually cut the veteran player and that happens a lot all over the league it's why every front office they're evaluating all the rookies but they also have a list of guys because of their contract

that could essentially be cap casualties could get cut not because they can't play they would start on a lot of teams in the NFL they're going to get cut on their team because of the amount of money they make. Now, just because you play well in practice does not mean you're guaranteed to win that spot. The preseason games for that young player,

that young guard, that young corner, that young lineback, or whatever position they play, especially in a lot of these times, depending on the team you're on, you might get the opportunity to start. You might be immediately in after they yanked the starters after a series or two. You do have to perform.

So acting like these preseason, games mean nothing. They do mean something from the sense of you can't just go out there and shit the bed and then I'd be comfortable with cutting a veteran player who I've seen play for me, let's say he's been my starter the last two years, and take this fifth rounder who's been good in practice, but then the games, some of the stuff on the fly, he was a little overwhelmed. It's why a lot of those players, you just kind of chalk up, I'm going to take him to the practice squad. Now, he can move his way off, but he has to play well in the preseason games. You cannot just shit the bed

And have a coach or a front office Feel comfortable about making that move So to me that or and with linemen Sometimes it can be tough And just because a guy like this happens a lot A pass rusher It's like God we played three preseason games He had seven sacks

Well one of the games he had four Against a right tackle who might not start in the UFO Who was just filling a spot in the second half for a team So you got to be careful about production Right now. Not all production is the same. That's why it's hard with evaluating these quarterbacks, especially the rookie quarterbacks.

To me, a lot of it's like poise. How does he look? But also, who's his offensive line? If he's running for his life, it's hard to act like, well, he's getting jittery in the pocket. Well, no shit. The right tackle can't block anybody. He's a turnstile over there.

So the guy has to move. That's where you have to be very, very careful about overreacting to a guy not looking good or a guy looking great because you go to these preseason games, they're not showing you a lot. If a team runs a lot of cover two or whatever coverage is their go-to, they might just consistently run that all the second half. So after a couple throws, that quarterback, that offensive coordinator,

and, you know, the skill guys know, like, hey, they're just doing the same thing. Let's run this play over and over and over, and it starts working, and all of a sudden this guy throws two touchdowns, you go, well, is that real two touchdowns that would happen in the game? a regular season game because in a regular season game you game plan now some coaches especially with their starters like Andy Reid ain't just going out there and calling plays

for his starters they'll game playing a little bit they'll have like six seven specific plays against an opponent in the defense that they think they're going to see but after that it's a lot of just calling what we've installed during practice no different than the other side of the ball and it just basically goes who can execute more than the other but that's not the way Sunday football is.

It's all about game planning. It's all about knowing certain schemes, things do attack. That's not happening here as much. My first, I actually think, I don't know if the Eagles played a game before I went to this game, but I think there's a chance. The first NFL game I ever attended is when I worked for the Eagles, and it might have been Jets Giants,

which was a pre-season, I think it was Monday night football, preseason game. and Victor Cruz, I looked up a stat line before the podcast, caught six balls, had almost 150 yards, and caught three touchdowns. And he's a good example. He was an undrafted free agent from UMS. And there are going to be undrafted free agents all over the league that make teams. And that's where preseason games are huge.

He was so good. Honestly, I had never even heard of the guy at the time. And he went on before his injuries to become a really high-level player. but when you do things that are so eye-opening and I think he went on to continue to dominate throughout the preseason you can't keep the guy up the roster because the other thing that makes teams worried

ideally he's a bad example in this situation but like you would love to get a guy to a preseason and I think before you know in like the 80s and the 90s they used to call stashing a guy you basically wouldn't play him in the preseason and if you don't play in the preseason you're like a six-round pick

because once I cut a guy at the 53 man cuts, unlike once you go to a practice squad, which we explained the other day, if I'm going to take you from another team's practice squad, I have to cut someone off my roster. Or a guy, you know, got injured in a game during the season, so I put him on IR, then I have a spot opening and I can take a guy from another practice squad. But that team can either match, you know, pay them enough money to stay on the practice squad, elevate them to their own team. It's not a shoe-in that you get the guy. At the 53-man cut down, when you cut, how many players, it varies team to team

because some teams cut players before that spot. If another team, if you cut him and he goes through waivers and another team claims him, he's gone. You do not get that guy. So Victor Cruz is a good example that even if they wanted to get him to the practice squad,

he never would have made it. He would have 1 million percent been claimed. So even if internally they thought he's not quite ready, even though he was great in the preseason. And I remember early on in his career, it might have been like Manningham or Steve Smith ended up getting injured and then he started playing. I don't think he played a lot early in that season.

And then a couple years later, he's on a Super Bowl team. But you have to be willing if you're going to cut a guy to lose him at the big cutdown. And if a guy plays well enough in these preseason games, it's much harder now because every team in the league basically cuts up all the teams throughout the league to their pro scouts. And they're not just monitoring the game tape. you read every day. We used to get this thing called The Clips.

It essentially was like a mix of pro football talk meets Twitter. And whoever your teams were, you would get every article written about them. And you would go through and a guy's having success, a guy's not. Now, that's just based on what reporters and press conference are saying, but you're monitoring that stuff closely. So if they're high on a young guy, and then he starts making plays in the preseason game, and then he gets cut, and you're like, well, we really need a defensive tackle. This guy was really good in the preseason.

The coach talked him up. They clearly want this guy in the practice squad, but I think he might be our backup right now. And you've got to be very, very careful with that. Because that's a hard balance to run. And I think at this point in time, what most teams do is the stashing, at least this is my belief, is kind of done.

You just play the guy, and if he's good enough, you keep him, and if you don't think he's good enough, you cut him and hope to get him back on the practice squad. But I think that was a big Al Davis move. A lot of people copied them. So listen, the preseason is an exciting time. You can't bury any first round pick because he struggles in a preseason game.

That does not determine your career. Now, it can bring up just hesitation if a DB is getting smoked or a wide receiver is dropping the ball or a tackle, you know, can't block edge rushers that are, you know, practice squad level players. It for sure can bring up concern. But you got to be very careful. put everything in context, who's he going against, what plays are they calling? It's why it's a very complicated time. During the season, it's very black and white.

This guy's either good enough or he's not. The scheme and the play calling is either good enough or it's not. But in these situations, there's so much that are they even calling, are they just calling the same three plays? Is this guy, and who knows, maybe he makes a great play,

and the coach would be like, he didn't even know what he was doing. He did the wrong thing, but it worked out. And those are things, that's a hard part about football. you never know. So I'm going to watch a decent amount of preseason, I'm sure, partly because I'm bored and there's nothing really else on television besides the final basketball game here in a couple days. But yeah, that's just a little breakdown of things I thought about.

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of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nash will get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He running up the court, licking his fingers why he got the ball. Like, after you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick.

Oh, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Will Ferrell from PodMeets World. And now the PodMeets Twirled podcast. We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV. who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors,

and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor. I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it?

Like what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion in the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate. please the finalist to a bunch of Ha, who, ha, ha, ooh. Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune into Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes.

Listen to Pod Meets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shake my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection. This Mental Health Awareness Month Tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself.

We explore higher consciousness, emotional well-being, and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you. To hear more, listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down.

Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting. On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the team everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game.

As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I think what makes sports pretty fun, I was thinking about this watching Steph Curry, he went nuts today, scored 36 points, is, do you know that Virginia Tech, where Del Curry went to college, which, obviously is in some college basketball blue blood.

I'm pretty sure Dell was a season ticket holder as well, like when Steph was a kid. They would not offer Steph Curry a contract. I mean, at the time, they're not contracts. They were scholarships. Couldn't get a scholarship to Virginia Tech. Part of the reason he ended up at Davidson. And then went on to have, I would say, one of the most unique college careers, given that he was playing at this random school and kind of became a legend because of the tournament.

and obviously the rest is history. But what's cool about sports is Tom Brady, a six-round pick, can have a better career than Peyton Manning, the number one overall pick and one of the most hype prospects of all time. You never know. And historically, in football, we've had just random things happen, right? Trent Dilfer won a Super Bowl as a starting quarterback for the Baltimore Ravens. Now, once upon a time, Trent Dilfer was a top 10 pick,

but his career got derailed in Tampa, and it was ugly. Brad Johnson, same thing. Won a Super Bowl. When you close your eyes and think Super Bowl champions, you think Brady, you think Manning, you think Montana, you think Farrv, you know, you think the greats, Mooms.

But you get other random guys. And the Nick Foll's story is something that was pretty storybook. And I was there when we drafted him. Obviously, he's a great guy, everyone loves him. But the reason he was on, I mean, a dog shit team at the University of Arizona.

and I remember that Marty Morning Wing and Andy really liked them is they were getting destroyed a lot and Bob Stoop's brother was the coach and I think got fired mid-season Nick's senior year and in a lot of games they were just getting killed and he would bring them back in the second half and those guys love like his mental toughness and his just will to compete

now at the time we loved Russell Wilson and we're hoping to draft him obviously misplayed that, but got Nick Foles. And long after Andy was gone, Nick's moment for the Eagles is just something that was pretty special. I mean, Carson Wentz was having a MVP season, tears his ACL in Los Angeles. And let's face it, everyone thinks the season is over.

Because most times in that situation, the season is over. You have no chance. Best case scenario, you get a guy like Flacco out of the pen, and he just keeps your season alive and you make the playoffs, but you're won and done, like the Browns were the season. But that doesn't take away from how cool the Joe Flacco story was. Nick Foles helped lead the Eagles to a Super Bowl. It would be one thing if it was the Steelers or the Niners

or just the Cowboys. Some franchise, obviously would have been a big deal with the Cowboys because they haven't been a Super Bowl in a long time, but just a franchise with a lot of Super Bowls. Eagles have never won a Super Bowl. He leads him to a Super Bowl. He makes some historic plays. He's obviously a huge reason.

I mean, he looks at Doug Peterson and goes, how about Philly Special? I think they called it Special Special, or whatever the specific name he said is a little different, I think, than the one we said. But regardless, I would say it's one of the most memorable plays in Super Bowl history. I would say the most memorable play,

at least in my lifetime, is the Malcolm Butler interception. but the Philly special play is just an all-timer. He got a statue. He was the backup quarterback. How often does the backup quarterback get a statue? And he earned it. And I just think sometimes legends are made. A lot of times legends are great players, right?

Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, just go around. Roger Federer. It's usually like all-time greats. And then there's this guy, I think you just ask yourself, was Nick Foll's any good? And I think you'd get a million answers.

He had a great moment, but was he a good player in the NFL? He had a really good season in the one year with Chip Kelly. But for the most part, his career was like, yeah, meh. Started, I think, under 60 games. After that, Eagle season was clearly never the same. Did get, had a bad injury. Jacksonville made a bunch of money. But he had a moment that made him a legend in the football world.

And a legend specifically in Philadelphia. And let's face it, that was the beginning of the end of Carson Wentz. because Carson could never overcome Nick Foles, let alone himself, which led them eventually to Jalen Hertz. But I think Foles is to me, and I say this all the time, like I don't apologize for this.

I watch sports for the stars. Just watching the basketball game. Like, Maria, this is going to be the biggest loss I've ever seen. You cannot lose to Serbia when they got like two NBA players. Obviously you could argue the best player in the world. But this USA team cannot lose this game. And there was, I mean, going on the fourth quarter, like, they're going to lose. They cannot lose this game.

You have to win. This would be, in the history of sports, one of the worst losses of all time. And then the dust settles, they didn't lose, so it's behind us. But Eli beat him twice. And that's the other crazy part about the Patriot Dynasty, which is stuff of legend, right? Six Super Bowls. Hell, they went to nine. It felt, I don't have the exact number in front of me,

but if I had to guess, I'd guess 16 AFC championship games. Maybe that 14, 15? I mean, it felt like they were in the AFC championship game every year. And maybe Peyton beat them, right? The Flacco beat them. But it was rare that they lost. And Eli has a chance at the Hall of Fame. I think he's pretty polarizing.

To me, I'm not going to argue if he goes in, if he doesn't, I had no problem with it. But like he has two of the biggest wins in the history of the league. And it's almost his win against the undefeated Patriots, you could argue, is the biggest win in the history of the league. Because who did I see this? Oh, the Antonio Pierce is the part of my take guys. And he's like, I know we beat him, but I still think that's the best team of all time.

Now you could argue saying that makes his win look better. But I don't think he was bullshit. I mean, they're pretty good. And Foles didn't beat him. that version of the team, but he did beat a pretty damn good team. He did beat a really good team. And he changed Philadelphia, the franchises, the way we discussed that franchise forever. Before we get into Fugazi Friday in Harbaugh, I saw a story that hits close to home. And I don't care that much about Rogers and his parents, but there's a book coming out about Aaron Rogers,

Ian O'Connor, who's, I think I read his Patriot book, it was really good. It might have been about Belichick and the Patriots. It was really good. He's a good writer. He's written about the Yankees. And he got Aaron to talk about the book. And there's, obviously, there's been a long story about Aaron and his family. And listen, I, I, no one knows, like, I've seen a lot of family drama in my life. And I've seen people not talk forever. and I'm sure many people listening have gone through a lot.

With uncles, aunts, grandparents, like, it's difficult when people pass away. I say it all the time. When I was in Tahoe, I was with some family friends and they were discussing some drama going on in their family. I don't care if people die and they're leaving a dollar or $100 million. People, family, people that are close will have problems. it's a pretty consistent theme and it's broken up many of families. Now, that doesn't seem to be the situation here.

Obviously, they're still alive. I don't know what happened. And I remember hearing Darius Rucker. I was watching an interview. I think he did with Bobby Bones and he talked about his dad who was not around when he was young. I think left his family really, really, really young.

I don't think Darius knew his dad really at all growing up. But it's not like he moved to different state. I think he lived in the community, started a new family, didn't give a shit about him. And then when Darius and Hootie got big, I might be butchering the story a little bit, but like Darius saw him at a concert.

I don't know if it was a big concert that might have been a smaller venue and went up and talked. And it was a big deal. He was like, that's my dad. And I think Darius is pretty young at this point. It was a powerful moment for him. And I don't know if he had given him his number

or if he had it. And he said like a day or two later, I got a voicemail from my dad. So this would have been the mid-90s. And basically on that voicemail, it said, could I get $50,000? And Darius was just crushed. And clearly, if your family is not around growing up, you get to choose how you want to view that. And that is completely on you, and I don't blame anybody.

But as someone that had lost his dad, because Aaron told this story about, hadn't talked in a while, clearly. And he saw him at the American Century Golf Tournament last year. and Aaron's first thought was like, I'm not even going to go up to see him. And listen, if your parents in his position steal money from you, try to fuck you financially,

I get there sometimes a point of no return in life. But this sure feels like, and they alluded to this in the article that I read, then it was a lot over a girlfriend and some religious beliefs and just some weirdness. Like, that's what you're going to throw away your relationship with your father

and your mother. that seems pretty crazy to me because as someone who's dad's not around and I don't get to talk to him and haven't got to talk to him since 2018 lost my dad when I was 34 33 years old like that seems pretty dumb and pretty petty so Aaron ended up going talk to him and I their relationship I don't know if it's been completely mended but it's clearly not as bad and that's that's the right thing to do because life is too short as Kyle Shaddy Hannah once said, we all could, we could die tomorrow. And listen, for as funny as that comment was at the time, it's true.

Anything can happen at any moment with anybody. And in life, and people listening to this, as you get older, you go through friends, you cycle through different people and business in your life. I would say your parents, your brothers and sisters, obviously once you have kids, There is a small community of people that, I mean, just are on a different level of your life. And you, we all go through problems. Me and my dad butted heads a million freaking times. We did not always agree in life, starting at a very young age.

Once you get older, a little lighter, you don't care as much. But life is too short to let just stupid things splinter your family. It's just so like honestly Reading that kind of made me happy Was like this is This has been one of the dumber stories And I get like that moment On the Bachelor

When Jordan and Jordan Rogers and his wife Forget his name her name Follow on Instagram Set a place at the table Like if I was Aaron I would have been like you guys are such losers You guys

Screw you I totally I totally I I supported him on that one, and I didn't even know what was going on. Like, that was egregious. I mean, that was embarrassing for their family. Like, you can't do that. But eventually, they say time heals, wounds. It should, especially when it comes to family.

Because as you get older, you're like, I don't have the energy for this. And last but not least, Fugazi Friday. Jim Harbaugh has been suspended by the NCAA for a year. He has been giving a show, cause penalty, which I think essentially doesn't allow you to recruit, which makes it impossible to be a college head coach

for almost half a decade for four years. And I thought this has to be the stupidest thing I've ever seen. And then I was actually upped because Florio was like,

will the NFL do it, will they suspend him? Because they did once with Terrell Pryor and Jim Tressel Now, first and foremost, the suspension of Terrell Pryor looking back over the tattoos is pretty stupid. We all agree with that. That is dumb. Like, I, nothing, that age like rotten milk.

That's bad. Like who, but I would say Jim Harbaugh is on a completely different level than those two cats. He is what you call a cash cow, an important person in the NFL. Here's the other thing. The NFL ain't business with the NCAA. They don't give a shit. Plus, they're a private entity. They can do whatever they want.

I promise you this, Jim Harbaugh will not be suspended and he shouldn't. But the NCAA doing this, they hate Michigan. That much is, you can't even argue it. They have an agenda, they're biased on this one because he gave a cheeseburger to a recruit during the vid

when you weren't supposed to have recruiting. And I would say that time also age pretty poorly. But when it comes to the NCAA, I've said this and I'll keep saying this. I can't even fathom being a college football coach, being a college assistant coach, and having to pretend that what they say matters. Now, someone DM me the other day and was like, Middlecop, you're talking about football, getting away? What about the other sports? Well, I think we're at the point in time.

where football goes, what's the point of this? Why are we doing, why are we subsidizing everything? It's why I think it's pretty inevitable the way this is trending, that they will break away from the NCAA. I don't pretend to know how it's all going to shake out, privatize, run their own operation, maybe still send maybe a percentage to the school and still be the Michigan Wolverines or the Texas Longhorns,

but they will not be under the umbrella. of these loser administrators somewhere in Indianapolis, most of them have nothing to do with sports. They weren't former coaches, they weren't former players, they're administrators who somehow get to have their hand in the piggy bank because they wouldn't be making any money if it wasn't for the revenue football

and obviously basketball generates them. But they've also been hard on basketball. They've suspended a lot of coaches and got them in. trouble over the years. So to suspend the guy, listen, it'd be one thing to drop the hammer if he was still the coach of Michigan. And I've never understood this. I've always thought this was a giant Fugazi. When something happens in a program with a player or a coach, and then two or three years later, they pop that program, and those players have to suffer from something that they had nothing to do with. Remember Penn State, which I was living in Philly at the time.

It was a salacious story. Jerry Sandesky, all-time scumbag loser. And Mike McQuary, seeing him with the kids and running the, you know, I forget exactly what it was, but like the charity to funnel kids to them. It doesn't get any worse. But stuff that happened decade, two, three decades, decades ago to pop a program that is going to hurt the current players that had absolutely nothing to do with Jerry Sandusky. Always seemed nuts to me.

And I remember going to a practice when Bill O'Brien took over and it was like, this seems kind of unfair. I'm not saying there shouldn't be repercussions somewhere. Like Jerry Sandusky going to jail, maybe firing anyone president or administrator that was in charge. of his employment, but some redshirt freshman wide receiver or quarterback or tackle this had nothing to do with any of us. We didn't do any of this crap.

I always thought that was insane. It happens all the time. It's like, well, you cheated four years ago. Pete Carroll, Reggie Bush, all those guys left. And then USC got in trouble. It's like, how is this fair to any of these people? And I think those, like in the NFL,

if some of these guys that got in trouble, right, Jordan Addison gets a DUI, Rishi Rice is racing around like he's Lewis Hamilton, probably high or drunk, but ran away after the crash. He gets in trouble. Like, those are his problems. When anything happened, Tom Brady with the deflated footballs,

which I think is one of the stupidest stories of all time, the New England Patriot Organization might get fined, but Tom gets suspended or Bill gets fined it's why should anyone else like you just forfeit three games I always thought that

just like what is the how does this like what's the point of all this and I've always thought there is no point and I would say the dumbest thing that you could argue the NCAA has ever done is just throw this hammer at Jim Harbaugh

like you got them guys really nailed this one taught him a lesson. As Jim said the other day, I do not apologize, which is one of the great lines of all time. And I understand people going, especially Ohio State fans,

how could he not have known, even though I'm pretty sure all this stuff doesn't stem from any of that? But regardless, I do not apologize. I think that's what all these football teams will say when they break away from this dying organization. known as the NCAA.

Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.

And he knows. Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid. He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night basis on offense.

And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get to fly. He running up the court, licking his fingers, why he got the bar. Like, you go through a training camp with that Isaiah, you figure it out.

real quick. Ah, yeah. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's Ryder Strong and Will Ferdell from PodMeets World. And now the Pod Meets Twirled podcast.

We're two men who were completely clueless to reality TV, who now have covered Dancing with the Stars, traitors, and we're gearing up for the season finale of Survivor. So, yeah, now we're experts. I know we annoyed a lot of our listeners by, um, our severe lack of survivor knowledge. That is the point of the show. I'm just going to remind you. I have watched some Survivor.

I obviously haven't watched enough. Did people not like it? Like, what was just because we? Yeah. We'll be recapping the big conclusion at the 50th season from the final attempts at gameplay to the desperate pleas of finalists to a bunch of

who. Ah, ha, who. Again, we are experts. So make sure to tune in a pod meets twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Podmeets Tworl on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The story I've told myself about love or relationships can then shake my behavior, and that can lead me to sabotage the possibility of connection.

This Mental Health Awareness Month, tune into the podcast deeply well with Debbie Brown and explore the journey of healing, self-discovery, and returning to yourself. We explore higher consciousness, emotional. well-being and the practices that help you find clarity, peace, and self-mastery in a world that can feel overwhelming. The world is becoming lonelier. We're not becoming more social and connected. We're becoming more individualized, but we actually meet people in connection. If you've been searching for a soft place to land while doing the work to become whole, this podcast is for you to hear more. Listen to deeply well with Debbie Brown from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the

IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. If you're watching the latest season of the Real Housewives of Atlanta, you already know there's a lot to break down. Gorsha accusing Kelly of sleeping with a merry man. They holding Kay Michelle back from fighting Drew. Pinky has financial issues. I like the bougie style of Housewives show. I think it looks like it's going to be interesting.

On the podcast, Reality with the King, I, Carlos King, recap the biggest moments from your favorite reality shows, including the Real Housewives franchise, the drama, the alliances, and the T, everybody's talking about. As an executive producer in reality television, I'm not just watching it. I understand the game. As somebody who creates shows, I'll even say this. At the end of the day, when people are at home, they want entertainment. To hear this and more, listen to Reality with the King on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, mailbag time. At John Middilkoff is the Instagram. Fire in those direct messages. Need your questions. Fire away. We are wide open. Open for business.

Just my name. DM's wide open. We will start with Alex. I heard you and Colin go into it a little. But I've seriously been asking Eagles fans for months. Why would you possibly want Siriani? If the guy isn't an OC or a DC and acts like a boneheaded halftime, no one has the proper answer to that question,

and am curious a sort of in-depth opinion from your position or yourself. Well, I think this one's pretty simple. He's won. If the team had not been winning, he would have been fired pretty quickly. He was in trouble his first year when he was the OC and the team looked at awful, he might not have made it through the first year. But then he made the playoffs. Then the next year, he went to the Super Bowl.

And while last year was an embarrassment for the franchise and the owner, they still were in the playoffs and won 11 games. Obviously, they were a disaster down the stretch, but someone DM me the other day, and probably a Raider fan, and he's like, why the Niners, the front office, they don't take

any shit. Well, one, they do. And two, like, well, they win. Ultimately, what happens in January through August, if you win double-digit games or in the playoffs, shuts everybody up. The reason things get louder, like the Giants, for example, if they have a rocky season,

everything that happened over the last couple years continues to be talked about. But when you win, no one can say anything. We just won 11 games, won our division. The whole point of the sport is to win games on Sunday. I don't have Sirianni's record in front of me,

but nine games his first year, second year, he went 14, and last year we won 11. It could have been 15, could have been 13, I kind of forget their record, but they were the number one seed. I mean, they hosted the NFC championship game, knock pretty out and cruised the championship,

and then almost won the Super Bowl. So, like, listen, he's a polarizing figure. That article was pretty salacious with, wait, you and your quarterback? Got issues? He doesn't respect you? Schematically? That's kind of weird. But, like, if they win 12 games and he wins a playoff game,

what's Jeffrey Lurie's supposed to do? Fire him? It becomes very, it's easy to fire people when they lose. It was easy last year to fire Brands Daly. It was easy. especially after Thursday night when they lost 97 to 3 to the Raiders on Thursday night football in front of the entire country. But when you win, it just, that's the goal, that's the whole point of this whole thing. I know it's a business and the goal is to make money if you're an owner, but you make money by winning.

And as long as they're in big games, like obviously, if it looked like it did last year and they start and lose a bunch of games at the end and get bouncing in the first round, he'd get fired. But if they have a normal 11 and 6 season and win the division and then win a playoff game, it is difficult. It is difficult to fire a guy. Question for the bag. It's from DeAngelo. Is it possible to let a head coach go and immediately promote a coordinator from your own staff to head coach? More specifically.

A lot of Eagles talk. If Kellyn Moore shines, this year could the Eagles bump them up to? the head coach and fire Siriani. Hell yeah. One million percent. If Kellyn Moore is good and the team still kind of struggles, but it's clear they love Kellynne Moore, they could name him. Now, there are Rooney rules, you have to go through an interview search.

We just saw it with Antonio Pierce. He wasn't technically the coordinator, but he became the interim coach, and then he got the job. You do have to go, the league's big on a process and interviewing other people. Like you have to fault. There are specific rules. But yeah, you can do that. And I think that...

I think for Siriani to get fired and Kellen Moore to get the job, there would have to be some pretty unique circumstances. Because if Sireani is getting fired, something went pretty badly. And it'd be hard for it to go really badly if the offense is kicking ass. So if the offense is struggling, then Kellen... Like, what is the scenario in which... which they miss the playoffs.

If they miss the playoffs, I don't see how Kellynne Moore get the job. If they make the playoffs, it probably have to be a one and done, but what if the offense is awesome, the defense lets them down, and they just like them. But I still think they would be very interested in William Belichick and even Mike Vrable. So I don't think it would be a shoe in that Kellan Moore would get the job in that scenario that he gets fired.

Comment. As a Steelers fan, I thought you were making a joke about Ben only winning one Super Bowl. I honestly just forgot. Because he was awful in the first Super Bowl win versus Seattle. Love the show. I was thinking about this the other day because I actually saw this DM probably a couple days ago. I forgot that Super Bowl existed.

And I think about over the last, let's say, 20 years. Is that one of the least memorable Super Bowls? And maybe it's because, like, the Seattle team was not, like the Seattle teams that played Denver and they played New England were much more memorable than that home green team. Like, you just close your eyes and you think Super Bowls, over, you know, pre-Mahombs, let's say. You remember Aaron Rogers, the Peyton Manning ones,

the Tom Brady ones, the Eli, Flacco, the Niners. I just don't really think of that one. You think of the three, not three, but they won three and four years, the Patriots, you think of the Rams back in the day. I just, you even think of the one you guys won against the, against the Cardinals, where James Harrison made one of the greatest plays in the history of the sport to chase down. I think Larry, did he still store, was he out at the one?

I think he scored. But that, that play is one of the best plays ever. Or no, Larry chased James down. Warner throws the pick to James. And that's, that might be. might be my favorite play. Sometimes I'll just go on YouTube and just type that play in and watch it. Just, it's remarkable.

But I just don't remember any part of that game. I don't know where I was. Like, I remember where I was at the Cardinals Steeler one. I was at Pat Hill's house. He threw a party. I think it was just for coaches. I don't know if players were there, but it was like a, just all the coaches went over. I had like a barbecue.

It was fun, drinking beers, hanging. We just watched that game. And it was awesome. What's that man? Love the content. I'm a commie fan. 20 years old, and I've been around the worst of Dan Snyder and cousins leaving us. The stadium being bad, we're firing Shanahan, and with him went McVe, Kyle, and LaFleur. Happy we got a new owner.

But what is the time frame we're talking on success and overall effect on this team? This guy's like, I'm fucking tired of sucking. I'm tired of it. How long do I have to wait? Even this year is one giant question mark with new everything. I'm on the edge of my seat with Jaden. Will it pan out? Or should we have chosen May instead of RG3 or Chase Young all over again?

Or, and it's RG3 or Chase Young all over again. I would just enjoy it. This year, I wouldn't get your expectations too high and just pray that this kid looks like he's got a chance to be special. Because if he's special, your entire franchise has changed. I think it all revolves around him. If he's great, you're in great shape. And if he's great, let's face it, your timeline speeds up at rapid speed.

There isn't a soul. I would imagine even Casario and Cal McNair, who thought the Texans wouldn't just be in the playoffs, they would have won a playoff game. at this point in time last year. Now, your division is better in theory. So I wouldn't be thinking playoffs quite yet, but you never know.

And that's the power of the National Football League. What if this guy does pop? What if I tell you right now, Jaden Daniels is rookie of the year? If I told you right now, Jaden Daniels wins rookie of the year, you'd be like, well, does he throw 24 touchdowns and run for another 10?

Are we a nine-win team in the seventh seat? That'd be on the table. obviously if he has an up and down season, you got no shot. But even if he has an up and down season, if those ups are like, you know, Jane Daniel's ceiling is elite, one more offseason, another draft, you guys could be in pretty good shape.

I think the most powerful thing you have right now is hope and optimism, but it's real, right? Get Dan Snyder out of there, get a new owner in who's cutting big-ass checks. you get a GM who worked with John Lynch, John Elway,

and Bill Belichick. Who'd you work for Adam? I don't know. I've been to... I don't even know how many Super Bowls he's been to do. He won a couple with the Patriots. He went to two with Denver.

And he went to... I guess technically he didn't go last year with the 49ers, but, I mean, he was a part of it. It's been a part of a lot of winning. And your head coach has proven, like, as a head...

Like, he took the... Atlanta Falcons in the Super Bowl. So I'd be pretty excited. Messing from my wife's account. Deleted my social media four years ago and ended up being one of the better decisions I've made. I think about a lot. Just deleting my Twitter. I think about it.

I mean, like, what good do I get? Now, sometimes for me, you get a story, but I get most of my topics. I would say not from Twitter. But every once in a while I do, it's like, ugh. But I'm jealous. I still like Instagram though I probably waste too much time on it but I'm legit jealous

I'm legit jealous of you I rewatched Super Bowl from last year and there is one play that doesn't get enough attention with 3.30 left in overtime Mahomes was just about to chuck a deep but held at the last second and checked it down a younger Mahomes would have slung that thing

but the guy has matured in such a smart player they never showed that was down they never showed what was down there but I have to imagine it might have changed the outcome of the game if you have access to the end zone version I'd love to hear what you saw I'm gonna have to go check that down

and this is whenever I get pushed back like is there's too much hype on Mahomes he mastered the game because early on in his career he was like a young farv the gun slinging he had Tyreek Andy was in his back

and it was like, what is this? What he's become last playoffs and last season is mastery. Because part of mastering football isn't always throwing the 40-yard pass, maybe in double coverage that could get picked. You can check it down all drive-long. Joe Montana won a Super Bowl doing that against the Bengals. Dinkin and Duncan. Play smart.

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, what made them great, obviously they have incredible highlight plays. But on like third and four, they wouldn't force it into an area and throw an interception. They would check it down to their running back and get a first down and keep the drive alive. Happened a lot.

Question for the mailbag. I'm a Panther fan. Unfortunately, do you think Bryce will make any significant progress? If he doesn't improve, should the Panthers draft another quarterback, I'm assuming they will have a pick the top three. I heard from the little birdies at a good camp. Obviously, you're not going against the greatest team, but I've heard he's at a good camp. So, listen, it's hard to unsee what we saw last year, but we've seen this happen before.

Jared Goff's rookie season, I don't have their stat sheet in front of me, but you could argue it was worse. You could argue it was worse, or equally as bad. And look at Jared Goff. He's a top 10 quarterback in the end of the first. NFL. And in the NFC, he's one of the better quarterbacks in the NFC. So I'm biased because all I can get out of my head is what I witnessed last year. So it's like, it's hard for me to be bullish and be like, yeah, you know, this guy's going to turn around. He's going to look like C.J. Stroud this year. But I do think it's fair to go, hey, man, you get an offensive play caller in here.

you add the dude in the second, I guess you trade it up in the first round to get a South Carolina guy, which Maria loves, followed him on Instagram, because he's just, his southern accent, talking about horses,

he's an explosive player, so maybe you could just be better. Big Philly fan here. It seems like my team and a few others have a lot of noise going on within their organization this offseason. Philly, of course, being alleged tension between Hertz

in Siriani. Although they claim they have moved on, on the West Coast, it's hard to imagine a noisier off season than the Niners have had. Contract disputes, the lingering Super Bowl loss,

the future contract of Purdy, along with the age of a team getting older and many seeing this as one of their last chances to win with this core. As someone who's had been in an organization, how can things affect the team and a front office from the top to the bottom?

a lot of time in interviews they feign ignorance or say that's all noise and don't care about is that true or is the back of everyone's mind it's hard to imagine guys like Siriani or DiBo not caring about the stuff considering how we're all human beings so the ignorance

pretending you don't care is always bullshit how could you be Nick Siriani and go up to the podium the next time he gives a press conference and not be just not nervous but kind of worked up knowing what's coming Brandon Iyuk is walking around the building

every day as everyone's talking about where he's going to get traded so noise is real now what you can control let's use the Eagles and the Niners example they have a ton of guys who are high level players who make a lot of money

that they depend on for being focused and working hard. So for the Niners, like you can depend on McCaffrey, on Kittle, on Fred Warner. I was going to say Trent, but he's not around.

Debo this year's having a great camp. If you're the Eagles, Lane Johnson, A.J. Brown, Devonte Smith, right, Brandon Graham, these guys to just be laser-focused,

everyday working, and you just kind of, like, once the games start, it's just about the games. Now, the key is to win and win early and it quiets everything. That's a key in the NFL. When?

Because when you lose, we talked about this earlier, and there's some weird stuff going on, things can snowball and things can get weird. But if you lose, look at the Jets last year. It was a taking time bomb. He gets hurt. It blew up immediately.

Now, they don't have any success, like the Eagles and the Niners, but, like ultimately, they're going to pay Trent and he's going to come. But I would say the Eagles, the Siriani Jaylin thing, is going to be a story all year long. If Iyuk is traded, that situation is something that lingers all year long.

Did you have to do that? Did that ruin your offense? Did that limit Purdy, his favorite target? So it's like, there are these tipping points that, what if Jalen doesn't play well the first couple weeks? well, okay, Nick Siriana gets asked, well, are you guys buddies? Can you even talk to them?

Imagine the 49ers, their offense struggles the first couple weeks. Could he use Brandon Ayuk? He's on the Steelers. That first round pick can't play for you right now. So yeah, I mean, I think it's something, one thing I've always said, and I've been doing this a lot longer now than I worked in the NFL, but the conversations we used to have in the building, you know, other scouts or assistant coaches,

are no different than the conversations we have. Like, you just talk about the same shit. Now, you've got to be careful. I mean, you know, the serianic thing would be a little, you'd have to, that's probably not an open conversation.

But, like, what do you think the conversation with IUC is going on in the building? Like, let's just talk about, this undrafted free agent? It's like, what are we going to do? You see the guy every day in the cafeteria.

So I would imagine, I mean, through my experience and what I would imagine, the Patriots were unique because everyone's kind of like on edge. But most of these places are having the same conversations we're having. Obviously, they got more information or some of the conversations about like, this dude's going to make the team when everyone in the building knows he's not going to make the team. Shit like that. But if you're with the 49ers, like I would imagine Brandi-IU comes up in the building literally all the time.

Love the podcast. I discover it when you were on with Bobby Bones. Love Bobby. I'm a native Texan, but I live near Phoenix. I'm probably one of the only native Texans that hates the Cowboys. I grew up a massive Joe Montana fan because of my dad. My dad loved Joe too. My question is, do you see a world where McCarthy and Nick Siriani keep their jobs?

Both of them are on the hot seat for different reasons. With them being in the same division, it's hard to imagine. that both could do enough to keep their jobs by the end of this season. Maybe if they both win 10 12 games and face each other in the NFC championship game. I think if they both win 12 games and face each other in the championship game, they will both be back next year. McCarthy for sure. If McCarthy gets the Cowboys to the NFC Championship game for the first time since 1996,

he is going to be the Cowboys coach. And Dak Prescott was awesome last year. Mike McCarthy called the place. So like, Mike is a head coach, which he's clearly pretty good at in the regular season. And he can call the place? Like, Mike's more valuable than Siriani. Let's not argue that.

I think Siriani's a little more different. You know, I mean, what if they get to the second round of the playoffs and get destroyed by like the Lions, Packers, or Niners? Or the Cowboys. I think he's a little more fickle. McCarthy cannot lose in the first. round. But if McCarthy wins a playoff game, I could see Jerry rolling it back.

I would say if both guys, if we're in the second week of the playoffs, so there's wild card week and then there's a divisional round, and both guys are not there, for whatever reason. One misses the play. If you miss, if you're not in the playoffs, they're going. We know that. Like, that's a fact. If either one of these teams misses the playoffs, they will get a new head coach. I will say this. Siriani is not that hard to replace because like we said, what's he really doing?

If they got Belichick, I don't understand it, but I don't think McCarthy is the easiest coach to replace. He clearly knows what he's doing and he can be your play caller. He's better than Jason Garrett and Jason Garrett kept his job

for fucking eight years or 10 years or whatever. He's coached there forever. Nine years, 10 years? Like you upgraded with Jason Gary, you know, with McCarthy from Jason. What's your upgrade? If you can't get Bill,

like, is there, I'll give you an example. Would you fire him for Mike Vrable? Like, I don't know if I do that. And I like Mike Vrable a lot. But if McCarthy's getting to the playoffs every year, it's not like Vrable's won a Super Bowl as a head coach. Is Vrable going to have a better play caller than McCarthy

and his relationship with Dack, assuming you keep Dack? It gets complicated fast. So, I mean, they're two of the bigger stories in the league. The coaches for the Eagles and the Cowboys on the hot seat, both of them, playoff teams coming off double-digit win seasons. And that's what's cool about the sport.

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