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Episode Date: November 28, 2025

Former NFL scout John Middlekauff is reacting LIVE immediately following the Week 13 Thanksgiving triple header featuring Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers vs. Jared Goff and the Detroit Lions, Patrick Mahomes and the Kansas City Chiefs vs. Dak Prescott and the Dallas Cowboys, and Joe Burrow and the Cincinnati Bengals vs. Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens. John kicks off by reacting to Joe Burrow and the Bengals upset win over Lamar Jackson and the Ravens. John speculates whether the AFC North is officially wide open with Joe Burrow back in action. John then reacts to the Cowboys big time win over the Chiefs and what that means for each team moving forward amid a tight NFC and AFC playoff race. Next, John reacts to Packers road win vs. the Lions and debates whether the Lions will have enough to make the postseason with star wide receiver Amon Ra St. Brown set to miss their Week 14 matchup vs. the Cowboys after sustaining an injury. John wraps up with his Hard Rock Bet Black Friday picks: Bears (+7) at Eagles Rome Odunze Anytime Touchdown A.J. Brown Anytime Touchdown 05:27 - Bengals-Ravens 16:12 - Chiefs-Cowboys 44:41 - Packers-Lions 51:49 - HRB Black Friday Picks Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Use promo code “3ANDOUT20” on https://nicokick.com/zone for 20% off at checkout! Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We watched a lot of football today. Also, I ate a lot of turkey and some ham and some cocktails and some sweets. So I'm ready to go to sleep, but we got to, we had a lot going on. We had Joe Burrow returning. They destroy the Ravens. We have the Dallas Cowboys that might be the hottest team in the NFL. The Chiefs are now six and six. And if this weekend does not go well for them, their playoff hopes are basically over.

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today. Woo! Okay, let's start with it does feel like the stories of the day are Dallas. the Packers, obviously the Chiefs, but, you know, I just watched the Ravens game, so let's hit on this really quick. Because big picture with the Cincinnati Bengals,

they could run the table. They're still not making the playoffs. But I do think what Joe Burroughs said when he was interviewed right before kickoff represents the power of the sport of football and even the mindset of its NFL players is when they kind of ask, like, why are you doing this?

You don't need to play. And he's like, I'm, paid a ton of money to play a little kids game. If I can play, I'm going to play. And I was thinking, like, how refreshing is that for the consumer? You know, they were trying to break the record with the Chiefs Cowboy game of potentially being around 50 million people watching. And we'll see what the number is.

But obviously, this day, millions upon millions of people are watching all three games, even the night game, which felt, even though these two teams got Joe Burrow and Lamar Jackson almost like a come down off the previous two games. But I mean, you're probably talking 25 million people sitting on their couch consuming this. And Joe Burrow, one of the most famous guys in the league, listen, he's not relatable in the sense that he signed a $300 million contract, but just like, you know, I get paid to work. And if I can work, I'm going to work. Whether we can win the Super Bowl or whether we can just beat the Ravens on Thanksgiving night. Because you know why

playing football, like everything besides the 17 weeks when you play if you're an NFL player, the 12 weeks when you play if you're a college player, kind of sucks. You know, for the majority of the year, you're not actually even during the season, right? I'm talking like January, or I guess January, some of the good teams are in the playoffs, but February, March, April, you're just like training, getting up really early, cutting things out of your diet, busting your ass just to get ready for spring practice to then train again all. So, to just get ready for training camp to just start the season where you then practice to then play a game. Right? So you spend all this time preparing to do what he just got to do,

come out there, sling it to his buddy Jamar Chase, who he's known for whatever seven, eight, nine years, who they have like a Montana to Rice like chemistry. His other buddy Higgins has a concussion, but he'll come back. Guess what? It's fun to play football, especially when you're good. I'd argue any industry you work in when you are talented at it or when you enjoy doing it working is kind of fun sometimes

and whatever is like the pinnacle of what you do and for football players it's playing the game that's the enjoyable part so watching Joe Burrow that they announced before the game even kicks off that

you know he said to us that he is going to take off his shoe every single series when his team's on defense because it doesn't feel good on his foot just to maintain the structure or whatever to limit the pain of the turf toe. It's like, you know what?

Even before the game kicked off and I obviously had the Bengals plus seven and a half, I didn't feel great about it. But I was like, you know what, I'm rooting for this guy tonight. Like, I'm rooting for the Bengals tonight. And I'm completely indifferent to the Bengals. If anything, I'd root for the Ravens

because I'm kind of rooting for the Steelers' demise right now just because I want to see chaos. in that organization and potentially Mike Tomlin go to the Giants and just a complete mix-up. And there's some rumblings out there. I saw a headline recently that like a veteran highly like accomplished coach might be looking for a reset. Everyone's like Mike Tomlin. Potentially could be John Harbaugh.

But I think most of us thought like Mike Tomlin. And listen, we'll get into the Ravens here in a second. But I just, we get a lot of DMs and people. people asking me and listen, it gets thrown out there. It's a fair conversation to have. Would the Bengals trade Joe Burrow? What could you do to get? Listen, he's gotten hurt a couple times.

And it really sucks. He heard his whatever his wrist a couple years ago, or was that last year? Obviously the turf toe this year, derailed their season, hurt his knee early on in his career. But if you're the Bengals, like he's going nowhere

for the foreseeable few years. future. And any talk about like, should we pivot? Can we keep dealing with his injuries? The answer is simple. Hell, yeah, you can. He's the best player probably in my life to be on their team. You know, Carson was really good. Chad Johnson was pretty good. Obviously, Jamar Chase is fantastic. But I mean, this guy is just a franchise changer. And he was a little rusty tonight. Obviously, made some good plays. Had a couple balls, you know, go probably way off. that typically left his hand. You're like, ah, that's going to be, oh,

it's missed the guy by seven yards. But he hasn't played in like three months. So I just have a lot of respect for Joe Burrow. And I think moments like that when the mic went in front of his face, it's like, that's why the NFL's king. Because that's the player's mindset. I mean, we literally have a massive investigation going because a team in a similar situation,

legendary, highly paid player team has no chance. like, yeah, we're just going to, Dame Lillard is going to sit tonight. We're going to start tanking. The bank, this Thanksgiving. They're three and eight. They win tonight. They're four and eight. You got no shot.

I mean, you could run the table. And you're still more than likely missing the playoffs by a couple games. So I just have a lot of respect for Joe battling back and in playing and Thanksgiving. I mean, when the, when the injury initially happened, people said maybe by the middle of December, guy ended up coming back November 27th. First game back, beats the Ravens, who were in a position to really kind of take a strangle hold of this division because the Steelers are playing the bills on Sunday in Buffalo.

I don't know about you, but I'm taking the bills. I'm taking the bills by a lot. I think the Steelers fucking blow. But here's the thing. The Ravens, if you have Lamar Jackson at, what is he? My wife, we're sitting on the couch. I got my wife, my mother-in-law, my mom. my wife's aunt,

we're kind of sitting there watching the first half. And Maria looks at me, she's like, Lamar looks kind of slow. I'm like, yeah, he's, by all accounts and reports, he's probably closer to 50% than he is 80%. He's not himself. And obviously he played a terrible game the night, right? The fumbles, but their whole offense,

you know, from a passing standpoint, revolves around him making plays. And it just doesn't look off or it doesn't look right. It looks off. and they just were in shambles all night long. Now, it doesn't kill them because, like I said, I would expect the Steelers to lose on Sunday and come Monday, the Ravens will still be in first place.

But you see that performance, you go, well, they got no chance in terms of, like, beating good teams. Now, you could also argue, like, who are the good teams in the AFC? Colts, they're quarterbacks in Shambles. Chiefs aren't even going to make the playoffs. Chargers have a million injuries. the Broncos, I guess, are the best team, but their quarterback. Does anyone trust that guy?

So you start looking around, you know, you trust the Jags? Like the Jags. That's who we're betting on. The Texans would be a scary team. But can CJ Stroud get healthy? I don't know. And you just look around, you go, the AFC's in Shambles. That's the shitty part if you're a Bengals fan.

If Burrow could have come back, a month ago or if Flacco could have rattled off a couple more wins after that big win against the Steelers and just you're six and six instead of four and eight

maybe it's a different conversation maybe you get a little more interesting you know they I think they got Miami coming up they get the Ravens at home they got a lot of winnable games but it's just going to be a little too little too late

and you watch the Ravens and you go I mean part of what's a major change the Sunday night game when you're going outside is the first two games it's like 70 degrees air conditioned in a dome and then you go to Baltimore

and I was telling everyone on the couch I'm like do you guys realize how cold it is we're in Arizona I was in the pool all day it was like 78 degrees here like do you understand how cold it doesn't look that cold I pull up Baltimore Maryland it was like 33 degrees like these people can't feel their fingers

can't feel their toes this is a different level of football than playing indoors in Detroit or playing indoors in Dallas. Like that's a different level of mental toughness. And again, the Bengals came out like they were in the playoff mix. Like they had something to play for it. And maybe that's Burrow, kind of, I don't know, injecting life, just giving them some confidence of like, guys, I fucking believe in this team.

I'm working hard enough to come back. Let's go out there swinging. And they played their ass off on defense, creating turnovers, creating fumbles. flying around. I mean, their defense actually didn't look bad, and that's a defense that looks terrible. Maybe that's more of indictment on Lamar's health, because to me, he doesn't even look remotely close to the guy

way earlier in this season, the guy we've seen the last couple of years. He's just not moving around very well. And when he can't move around and be the dominant playmaker, that's a huge part of his game. Like, that is the Lamar Jackson package. And when that's gone, he just becomes a shell of himself, and their offense obviously sputters, and they still make big plays.

He did hit the one dude on the go route, and the DB made a great play. But at the end of the day, I'm looking at this Ravens team, and the last couple years, you took them really seriously going in the playoffs. I mean, two years ago, they were the one seat. Last year, on the road in Buffalo,

like I like their chances. They obviously lost that game, but they were a team that wouldn't have shocked anyone if they rattled off a couple of playoffs, you know, beat the bills, and then had a chance against the Chiefs. This year it doesn't feel like that. This year, I would say, depending on the matchup,

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You know, that just felt, it felt big. It really did. And you can't convince me, especially if that game ends up breaking records, that a game with a six and five team playing a team that's five, five, and one. could have felt as big as it did. And it lived up to the hype and it was awesome. And when the Chief scored two touchdowns in the first quarter, Rishie Rice's, he's a big time player.

That dude, pretty clear why when he crashes the Lamborghini and there's like, is he drunk, is he hide? He takes off and he gets in some trouble. The Chiefs are like, well, stand by our man. They're like, Tammy Wannett. They're like, we're not going anywhere. And I don't blame him because that dude is a baller. he is by far their best offensive player.

Travis Kelsey, you know he's a bright lights player. He had a fantastic touchdown. And you're like, are they going to score 50 points in this game? And the thing is with the Cowboys, like, okay, you want to get into a scoring contest? The one thing that isn't debatable, and here's where I was wrong about Dallas, is at the beginning,

really going back to when Jerry made Brian Schottenheimer, the coach. I, like most people, and I don't want to say I was like a sheep or fell into group think here, but this guy wasn't getting hired by anyone else to be their offensive coordinator. Now, that would have been wrong because clearly he's an excellent offensive coordinator. We're watching his work on a weekly basis. He's really good at his job.

But there is no other team in the NFL that would have hired him be the offensive coordinator. Fair or not. And definitely no other team would have hired him to be their head coach. And sitting here after Thanksgiving heading into December, he's been fantastic. And just as an offensive coordinator, he's been pretty. elite. I mean, his rapport with his quarterback. Dak Prescott today, we had some really good performances

by quarterbacks. Mahomes played well. Obviously, the two guys in the morning, I mean, Jordan Love was, I thought, fantastic. Dak Prescott was just elite. I mean, that's, that was, especially Spag's defense, you know, they got some momentum. It's not like they're not playing for anything now.

He is parlayed. When they made those trades, whatever, three weeks ago, the game against the race, The game against the Eagles and the game against the Chiefs. Even Brian Schadenheimer in that in that locker room was like, how about those four days? I even think when you factor in the Raiders. Now, I understand the Raiders are a complete joke. Their coach, a report came out today.

Chip Kelly, like didn't know the plays, was calling in the wrong plays, was calling in plays to Gino Smith that they hadn't even installed and the players didn't know. It's like, Chip, are you boozing or something? what the fuck's going on? I've been on this for a while. I'm not going to beat a dead horse. But that performance against the Raiders was really high level.

Then you bring that to the Eagles comeback was like really impressive. Today it felt like the icing on the cake. What an incredible three-day run. I mean incredible three-day run for Jerry as the GM. Because I do think we talk about Jerry sometimes.

Obviously they get discussed all the time by all major shows, by the major networks, by a lot of podcasts. They're just a major story. And they're in the mix with making trades and doing big time stuff. Micah Parsons trade is, I don't know, one of the bigger trades of like my adult life. Trading two first round picks for a potential Hall of Fame pass rusher. Like it doesn't happen very often. And I mean, literally, I think him and Khalil Mack are the only time a guy's ever been like

all pros under 25. You usually give those guys a second contract. so it's just going to make waves. Now, I thought the Schadenheimer hire was crazy. I did not think the Micah Parsons trade was crazy. Now, once he starts trading for Quinn and Williams, I'm like, this is, Jerry's like just kind of gun slinging right now. But every time you look up, 92's in the backfield.

George Pickens, Field J. threw this out before today. Now, the Steelers haven't played, but coming into today, he had more receiving yards. the entire Steelers receiving core. He is, D.K.K. Beckcalf isn't the number one wide receiver. I got news for you.

But the Steelers pay him $150 million like he's Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. Meanwhile, Pickens today, I saw a stat, had four slants that he ran that went for a combined 75 yards. Last time I checked slants where you're catching the ball, I don't know, no more than seven, eight yards. by the time the ball hit your hands past the line of scrimmage.

His ability after the catch for a guy that it's not like he's worthy or D.K. Meckaff in terms, it's not like he's a 4-2 guy, but making guys miss, breaking tackles, using angles. George Pickens has been elite, but that's why Brian Schenheimer deserves credit. Because when you trade for a guy like that, you're like, how are you going to use them? How are you going to handle this personality? then the Cowboys get him and he becomes Dax I mean a lot of this season has been his number one

target has been the most productive player on the field I mean how many times today it's like it's probably going to go to George and something big happened and obviously Cidie Lamb had a massive game so you're keeping these two guys I mean there's a story that comes out a couple weeks ago it's like they're boozing late night and I gave him respect kind of like a throwback to my youth

a couple dudes on the road all-nighter and who even knows what exactly is true, but who cares? Brian Chott and I'm are completely unfazed. Play the Eagles, both those guys crush. Play the Chiefs, Thanksgiving, front of 45, 50 million people, both those guys make huge plays.

And are the huge reason that they win. Obviously, you know, Ferguson had the play that, I guess it was overturned, but every time I watch him, I go, listen, I understand this isn't George Kittle, but he's a pretty good player. I mean, I think he's just extremely productive. Their entire offense just produces. I mean, what was DAC today?

27 to 39, a couple touchdowns, 320 yards. C.D. Lamb, seven catches 112. Picking 6 for 88. Ferguson 5 for 36. Javante Williams, productive. Malik Davis had the big touchdown run. Their offense is just legit. So it's like my head coach, who is, and here's the thing.

It's not like some random dude. who was coaching like John Carroll and then got like a quarterback job on some shitty team and just all of a sudden came out of nowhere. This guy's been around football since he was shitting in diapers. Like this guy's a football guy

through and through from day one. And once upon a time in his 30s he was like a shooting star and didn't pounce on the opportunity. This is why assistant coaches have told me over the years when I'm like, bro, why are you taking that offensive coordinator job? and they go, John, two things.

One, they signed me to a three-year contract at each year's worth over, and this is like over the years, over 800 to 900 to a million dollars. This is like 10 years ago. Now, an offensive coordinator job to pay like $1.2, $1.5 million for guys that have never been coordinators before.

So they pay a premium. And once you kind of get in that mix, you're just kind of in that mix. And like, this guy was a stud. This guy was a star. but then his career kind of got derailed. Like after that Jets situation, when he didn't take a head coaching job,

over the course of the 2010s, he was kind of all over the map. I mean, at one point in time, he was the Georgia offensive coordinator in the mid-2010s. This was after the Jets had him as their offensive coordinator in his mid to late 30s,

and they were the number one rushing offense back-to-back years in the AFC championship game. Back-to-back years, the New York Jets. And like five years later, he's coaching the Georgia Bulldogs. And this ain't the Kirby Smart Georgia Bulldogs. This is Mark Rick. So, like, listen,

sometimes your career goes down the wrong path. For some people, it ruins them. And they never become, you know, a coordinator or a head coach again. And they just kind of get lost in the shuffle. Now, this isn't the worst industry to work in. It still gets paid a lot of money. But there had to be a time and point

in this guy's career where he thought this was never going to happen. And then he gets it. And then the Parsons trades happens. The whole media think, like this whole thing's going to crumble. And even at one point in time, it's like, ah, it's going to be a pretty big uphill battle. Now you're looking at them, 6-5-1.

They play the Lions next week in what could be, honestly, an elimination game. I think Dan Campbell said after the game that St. Brown's not out for the season, but he's definitely going to miss next week. So they're going to be missing their best wide receiver. The Cowboys defense, ever since getting Quinn and Williams, looks like a completely different unit.

I mean, Quinn and Williams is all over the place. Clowny. Jadavion Clowny had multiple sacks today. The dude they traded for from the Cincinnati Bengals. He's been excellent. Obviously, they get overshone back. He's making place. Their defense just looks completely different since the trading deadline.

So, like, when I see Jerry on Jane Slater's Instagram or Twitter page with a huge piece of turkey in his hand, with a big-ass smile like, he should be swinging that thing around. This was an incredible, like, this is where you get credit. Like, listen, what are most owners doing?

Right? Not much. They hire their guys, and listen, ideally good ones, give them the money, but like, they're not wheeling and dealing.

Like, Jerry's a huge part of this. Jerry's the ones like, Micah Parsons out. He's even kind of admitted. During that preseason game, when Michael Parsons laid on the trading table, I think Jerry said,

within the last month, he's like, I've owned this team for whatever, 35 years. Never seen that happen in my entire career. I got really pissed him off. Just like it would have pissed anybody off. It would have pissed coaches off, owners off, GMs off. It was embarrassing. Listen, Micah, they were at odds, and they split up. And everyone took Mike aside.

And listen, the Packers don't regret it. I'm watching Micah today. There was that one play was kind of a broken play, and he kind of comes around. Goff kind of holds on. He crushed him. Mike was flying around. Mike is a really good player. But like, do you think Cowboys regret doing that?

No. This is kind of a win-win so far this year. And then they parlayed it. I think a lot of people were stunned when they trade for Quina Williams. He's a 27-year-old elite defensive tackle. He's really, really good. They still have two picks. Now, are the Cowboys going to make the playoffs this year?

I still doubt it. Right? Even if you go best-case scenario, like 10, 6, and 1, I doubt that get you into the playoffs, but you'd have a chance. But if I would have told anyone alive that November 27th, when the Thanksgiving Day,

when that game ends, that the Chiefs and the Cowboys are going to have the same amount of victories, there's not a soul that would have believed you. I don't think Jerry Jones would have believed you. It's just a remarkable accomplishment this year from the Cowboys. And one thing is like,

what about the penalties? What about the flags? officiating in football sucks. It's bad all the time. Like really, really bad. There are calls that could go either way all the time. There are calls that are made that should have gone the other way. So if you want to say that these past interferences shouldn't be called, yeah.

Like, I'm anti-pass interference call most times. Let the guys duke it out. I fucking despise. I mean despise defensive holding. It's my least favorite call. in sports. It's so over called. But it's football.

The Chiefs have benefited a ton over the years from calls. It happens. Like, I didn't watch that game and think the Dallas Cowboys won because of the officiating. I think Dallas played a really good game. And I don't think the Chiefs

were that bad either. Right? I mean, what was my homes today? Bring up that box score. He was 23 and 34. four touchdowns. If I would have told you at the beginning of the day, going to the Cowboy game, then Mahomes would be 23 at 34 for four touchdowns and no picks, you would have probably said the Chiefs win by four, or I mean win by 10, win by double digits. Because you would

assume probably, well, I bet Kareem Hunt gets a rushing touchdowns. It's probably 35. It's like the Cowboys offense is good, but I can see the Chiefs making some plays and win that game like 35 or 33 to you know 20-23. That's not what happened. Cowboys scored 31. And that's where going back, the thing they hang their hat on is they're so explosive on offense. And you go back, obviously the Raider game was a joke.

I mean, you're playing, again, I mean, the stories about the offensive coordinator are as embarrassing as anything you're going to hear. And while I do think Tom Brady has really, really improved on TV, I mean, dramatically. Tom Brady's pretty good now. He's solid. He's an easy listen. I thought he was better than Tony Romo and Jason Garrett. I mean, whatever that NBC executive is that thinks Jason Garrett is like the next John Madden, I don't root for people lose their jobs, especially with AI incoming. You might never get one back, but that guy should be relieved of his duties. You know, I mean, come on, man. I respect Collinsworth has in his contract. I do not work Thanksgiving. Even though Romo works,

even though Brady works. Chris Collinsworth does not. Tariko works. Tariko's going to be doing Sunday night football. We get Jason Garrett. I'd take anyone else. Anyone else. Shit, I'd take Collinsworth's kid. I don't care. You can't give me Jason Garrett. But the offense is just,

it's been unreal to watch. And I don't know if he can win the MVP. Because I do think Stafford, if the Rams win 14 games, and, you know, he only, stats are awesome and he's clearly just a dominant player week in, week out. I think he's going to have a pretty good, I think the story matters a lot.

It was kind of like Josh Allen last year. People kind of wanted to vote for him. But that's been pretty good, man. And the team's been pretty good. Schadenheimer's been awesome. Jerry deserves a lot of credit. It really does. And I think when you look big picture, you go,

well, we got two first round picks next year. So we're going to have, even if we miss the playoffs and win nine or ten games, we're going to have a lot of momentum in the next year. Clearly our head coach is a play caller, so we don't have to worry about losing our offensive coordinator. We have some young dudes on defense. Quinn and Williams is under contract.

He ain't going anywhere. Kenny Clark's under contract. He ain't going anywhere. Add a couple edge rushers. And look at your division. Washington was the oldest team in the league this year. They got a lot of problems. Debo's been pretty productive for them.

Debo's a free agent. Laramie Tunzel is going to want to get paid. So, you know, can Jay and Daniels stay healthy? And the Giants got a long way to go before they even have a long way to go. I mean, we got no clue what the hell's going on there, right? Even though we all like a lot of their pieces, like, they don't even have a coach, let alone like who's running the draft and free agency. Like, is the GM going to survive?

So we'll have to see how that thing shakes out. If I'm a cowboy fan, I'm pretty proud right now. And Jerry's taking a lot of shit and listen. They have underachieved in the playoffs. And I was messing around with people on Twitter during the middle of the day, having a few cocktails. The Cowboys have been a well-run organization

over the last 10-plus year, really in the DAC era. They've had some really good teams. The downfall has been, DAC did not play well in the big games. In the McCarthy era, they had two really good teams. They lost the 49ers twice,

with defenses. that I thought could have won a Super Bowl. And the reason they lost those games is Dak played like shit. I think he had three picks in the two games combined. One of the games he had two picks. He was bad. He just was not good. And obviously the game against the Packers,

the defense completely fell apart. And I think you remember he threw a pick six. But the two-niner games, like that team that lost the Packers, they had some issues. The previous two seasons, the year, I guess it would have been 22, they were really good on defense. And if Dak just played solid, they would have competed for a Super Bowl. And obviously McCarthy and Kellan Moore, a lot of people got blame there.

Dach just didn't play well. Let's think about football. You know, in basketball, in a seven-game series, if I had the better team than you, and I got Steph Curry or I got Yokic or some Luca on my team, they could have a bad game. Like, game two, Luca can score 17 points and we lose by 20. Whatever. See you tomorrow.

See you game three. footballs the playoffs are not like that it's what it's what makes the sport so unique you have one shitty game you have one bad half it could cost you a super bowl run and that's kind of what's happened to the cowboys and i've always said this about dac just like jared goffs like a lot of the kirk cousins they're capable back-to-back weeks in the playoffs if everything's going right like they could throw seven touchdowns over two games and be right there in a championship game or depending on their seed be in a Super Bowl. It's possible. We've seen it happen before. It happened with Flacco. He got red hot. Where was his team? Super Bowl. Eli did it twice. It's going to put him in

the Hall of Fame one day. Because he got red hot at the right time. And that's, you know, I do think Dak shows this in individual games in the regular season all the time. Like, he can play at a really, really high level. And their success with this Dak Prescott era is like whenever they get another opportunity in a playoff game, can he just throw for like three touchdowns? Not in a game two where the one playoff game that he won during the McCarthy era, they were playing the Bucks. It was Brady's last year. And they were just done. Brady was checked out. They were terrible. They couldn't. I think they were historically poor at running the ball. And deck, if I remember correctly, threw like five touchdowns and was awesome. But they

need that against a team that actually, you know, that's like they're equal, not a team that they're going to beat. And he hasn't done it. But I, I think like most people that watch football, he's easy to like, he's kind of earned, he like earned your respect over the course of his career. It's like, God, I kind of like to like this guy. Like watching him play. He's just, he's just a good player. Now, I understand his, his playoff resume speaks of herself, and that's the only way that he's ever going to be able to kind of validate everything. And if he could just get the Cowboys to the championship game over the course of the next like three years because now they're kind of in a little window right they're probably not going to make the playoffs this year i wouldn't completely write them

dead right now i mean there's there's as hot as any team in the league they see i mean the four game the four day stretch they just had that come back against the eagles and then a day is got to be one of the better four day stretches in recent cowboy memory uh especially when you just factor in the two teams they beat to do that to philly and then to do that to kansas city and i understand this kansas city team like i actually think they're They're not that bad. I mean, their defense isn't quite as good. But offensively, like, they're playing pretty good.

Mahomes is playing well. Rashid Rice is dominating. Kelsey's been relatively productive. I think they'd like a little bit more out of Xavier Worthy. You know, you draft him in the first round. Granted, it's the end of the first round. There was the big play today that he had that went for 42 yards. Is a great example.

Some of the great elite speed guys, Tyree Kill. Deshawn Jackson, guys Andy have had, can take a play like that and kind of look and go, I'm going to cut this thing back and just basically play one-on-one with the safety. Instead, Xavier Worthy just kind of keeps his momentum and just keeps running and ends up running into his other wide receiver and a DB

and the safety comes over and the play just kind of ends. That's a play that Tyree Kill or Deshawn Jackson just hit the brakes, cut on a dime, take off going 50 miles an hour and score a touchdown. And it's the play of the day. And he doesn't quite have that capability. Again, he's not bad, but I think you'd like a little...

If he had that extra oomph with him, with Rice, with the way Kelsey's playing, they would be a pretty dominant offense. But it does show you, like, they're very dependent on Rishi Rice. Who's a pretty dominant player? I mean, it ate for 92, a couple touchdowns a day. They can give him the ball in the,

out of the backfield on end of rounds. You know, I think the running game, Kareem Hunt's been really good for them in terms of short yard stuff, but do they have a true guy that they can rely on? But the offense, they couldn't stop them. Now you can say, oh, the penalties! Penalties!

I mean, wasn't that the knock on the Chiefs over the years? Is they get way more penalties than the other team? I just, I kind of hate doing that. And I get it. I mean, those couple of the, toward the end of the game, are huge. I mean, the Cowboys got, well, the Chiefs got 10 penalties for 120 yards. Cowboys 7 for 50.

I mean, it's a really, really big deal. But I don't know. I mean, I just hate playing that game. It obviously doesn't have no impact, but it's like, are the Chiefs a nine-win team if they're getting better calls? I think they're just not quite as good. And they're missing a little something on defense. And I do think that now when you start looking at the math, the playoffs are probably not going to happen this year.

And they'll probably end up going 9 and 8 or 10 and 7 miss the playoffs. And it does feel like we're kind of at the end of the Kelsey Chris Jones era you'd think. Now maybe, you know, I thought Travis Kelsey would retire after this season. Maybe if they don't make the playoffs and he gets January off and he gets a much longer off season that he comes back. Because if you're giving five, six catches a game, it's not like they're going to kick you to the curb, right? It's not like they wouldn't want him back. They have to pay for him anyway.

Like, you know, he's under contract. So, you know, Chris Jones is a guy that still makes big time plays, but is he someone that you can just depend on on a weekly basis? I think they're going to have to find kind of their next generation of impact guy on defense. And it's hard, you know, to do it typically when you're drafting 30. 31st, 32nd every single year. Now maybe you draft 18th, maybe you get aggressive and you get up to like 10th.

And that's what the chiefs are going to have to do potentially this offseason. It's like, if you're drafting 18th or 19th, does Vich just go, you know what? Fuck it. Let's take the 27-1 and go from 18 to 7 and get the second best edge rusher in this draft

and kind of put all of his chips in the table for next year and do something aggressive like that. And that's where I think the chiefs are in a position where they can do aggressive things that other teams probably hesitant to do. Because I think, listen, they're going to keep battling their ass off and playing hard. But, you know, they were, you know, Tony was kind of breaking it down on the broadcast when you looked at the standings. If you just look at the conference, they are six and six right now and sitting in ninth. Well, the Texans are six and five. the bills are technically the seven seed at seven and four.

So if the bills beat the Steelers this week, they'll be eight and four. The Jags play the Titans Sunday. So more than likely they'll be eight and four. So two teams that beat you are going to be eight and four. I think the Texans, I don't know if they're the hottest team in the league, but their defense is playing as well as any unit in the NFL. they play the Colts this week. I don't know if you saw the clip on Daniel Jones.

He can't move. So I don't know about you. I'm taking the Texans in that game. You know, it is, they despise and, like, their value of Anthony Richardson is so low that they would rather play a guy that cannot move against a defense that literally could break your other leg than be like, you know what? We're going to give them the week off and play Anthony Richardson. Who knows?

Maybe Anthony Richardson ends up playing. But this week could be. be pretty devastating for the Chiefs. You lose, and the Texans, the Bills, and the Jags all win. I think it's very likely that that scenario plays out. The Texans, the Bills, and the Jags all win. Chargers is a little bit of a wild card because they have so many injuries. But I just check, they play the Raiders this week.

So, I mean, there's a decent chance that all three of those teams, Chargers, Jags, Bills are 8 and 4, and the Texans win in their 7 and 5, and they've already beat you. So it's just, it's one of those scenarios where the chiefs, and this is why the Ravens are a little lucky that the Steelers are just such a disaster, that their slow start doesn't completely derail their season. When you start one in five, if you are in a credible division, you have zero percent chance to win it.

The only way you have a chance to win a division at one in five is if you're in a division with awful teams. Because nine and eight, I mean, it's going to be hard. to achieve. If you get 10 wins in the AFC North, you're going to win that thing by multiple games. I bet $1,000 right now, 9 and 8 wins a game. Or it wins the division.

So I think, you know, you look at the Chiefs, it's like some of years 10 and 7, boom, get you the 7 seed. Some years, you know, you got to win some tiebreakers with 11 wins to get in. And it feels like that's the case with the Chief. So listen, hell of a run. Five Super Bowl, six years.

not the end of the world. I also think that they could flip this thing pretty easy in the offseason kind of transition to next year because listen, I think Mahomes, he's still really good, but I think he's closer

to, you know, this version of Lamar, obviously is not an elite guy. You know, Burroughs been injured all season. Josh Allen's kind of been all over the map. No one's really playing of all the top guys to their elite caliber.

But Mahomes is the same thing. Again, he's still really good. I would take him on my team in a freaking, heartbeat over 95% of these other guys. But like he has moments in the game where he's like, oh, that's really impressive throw. And he has other moments. I'd like a little more.

And like maybe he's just going to be a really, really good player. The days of his, you know, time being the most dominant guy is over. He's just going to be really good, which is fine. And now I think, you know, Vitch would be the first to tell you. It's on me to build a really good team. So I'm me to pick the right players on defense. So I can get, I clearly have, you know, Andy and Spags, we just need a little more oomph.

We need better players. I think I saw a report when I was scrolling maybe at halftime that Josh Simmons, that's the first name, Josh, broke his wrist, the star left tackle from Ohio State. So that's not ideal. I mean, last time I checked, you break your wrist probably out for the season.

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I thought, now again, he's not exactly playing the eight. 85 bears. The lions are not good on defense. They got defensive issues. But in terms of, I thought that's as good of a game, I can remember LaFleur calling. They had 125 yards on the ground. You know, Love threw

for 334, but he threw four touchdowns. Was excellent in the red zone. Christian Watson coming back has completely changed their offense in terms of speed. Obviously Wix was like star of the game, especially the one that that ended the game. I did think toward the end of the game,

when they're in that scenario, where they can't run out the clock, but it's third and whatever, third and four, third and five, the lions have no timeouts. If you just run the ball from like 156, you would, the fourth down would come at like a buck 15.

And they have no timeouts. They have to score a touchdown to just tie the game. So you're basically at the 50 yard line. With a buck 20 left or a buck 15, you could punt and make them try to go 80, 90 yards to score a touchdown. Right now, they're good on defense, or excuse me, they're good on offense at home.

I get it. They got explosive players, even with your defense being excellent. I understand being aggressive. I personally would have ran the ball on third down. But I'm not going to nitpick them. Maybe he would say, I'm going for it no matter one on fourth down. So who even cares? I'm not necessarily playing the clock.

I'd still push back, even if you're going to go for it, at least put them in a position with way less time. But that being said, fourth down goes for it. Take some nuts. Because if you don't get it, you know Dan Campbell. If he does score, he's going for two. And if you lose, that's one of those that would have been hard to shake. But he didn't.

And he got it. Love made a great play. I thought Jordan Love was fantastic. Obviously, the touchdown that he threw, the first touchdown of the game was just, I mean, it's like football porn. Just an absolute beautiful throw down the left side for Wix's first touchdown. And how long was that play? That was 30 yards. That was beautiful pitch and catch.

He was excellent through a couple nice red zone touchdowns. He had the beautiful pass to Christian Watson, who again just gives them, it's like, listen, if the lions are fully healthy, what James and Williams brings the table, especially with Dan Campbell calling, is something that you can't teach. Like, what he has, and he showed it a couple times today,

is what you wind out of worthy. Utilize the speed, change a direction, use angles, you're faster than literally the other 21 guys on this field. You are the fastest guy. James and Williams knows it, and he plays like it when the ball's in his hand. Christian Watson knows it a little bit too.

Like he can just scoot. And watching those two guys with the ball in their hand, I mean, they both can fly. And I just think that today was huge. And now the Green Bay Packers does feel like they control their own destiny a little bit. I mean, they literally do because they play the Bears twice. But like, I think it'd be a little stunning if they don't win the division. Listen, maybe the Bears just have a magical season, but those are going to be really hard matches for Chicago. but even if they split,

they got to go to Denver, which is tough, they got the Ravens, and they still go to Minnesota. So their schedule isn't simple, but they are going to get the Bears next week. I guess they only get the extra day

because the Bears are playing on Friday against the Eagles. But that was a massive, massive win. And huge moment, I just thought, Jordan Love, Matt LaFleur, just taking a lot of shit. Everyone, and rightfully so, has been on Halfley in the defense,

and they fly around. I mean, that front, Micah came through. I mean, Micah made big, big plays today. But one big difference today, I mean, obviously, you know, for Dan Campbell, the first fourth down he went forward on when they ran Jamir Gibbs up the middle, it didn't even have a prayer. The second one worked. Goff just missed James and Williams, threw it behind him. I mean, you would like a guy to make a play, but that's a tough catch and he drops it.

So they go 0 and 2 on fourth downs. meanwhile the Packers go three for three. In these games against these teams that are always going for it on fourth down, that's huge. I mean, that literally was the game. Because when they got the fourth down, it literally ended the game. And if they don't get that play, which was an incredible catch, him high point in the ball.

The Lions are getting the ball basically at midfield. With what, like over a minute 45 left in the game. With some elite offensive players. So that's just These fourth down swings are huge. I mean, they're just massive, which I appreciate. You're kind of on pins and needles,

especially as we go in the second half of these games because you know these people are going to go for it. I think Dan Campbell's got to be a little worried because next week against the Cowboys, which he's going to be missing St. Brown, everybody in their mother is going to pick the Dallas Cowboys in that game. Dallas's strength

It's like, okay, you want to get in a shootout. They can just do what Green Bay did. We can score, you know, 30, 35 points, no problem. But our defense is playing really well. St. Brown's gone. Your tight end's gone. It's like, let's just focus on Montgomery and Gibbs. What's James and William's going to do?

Go for 300 yards. So to me, if I'm the Cowboys next week, it's just like you just somewhat neutralize, Gibbs and Montgomery, which, listen, both those two guys made plays today. They're excellent players. but I think this lion's season has just kind of been weird, you know, it really has. And I think it just gets back to defensively.

They're just not very good. You just have no faith that they're going to get any stops. And they're back seven. It's just, they got holes everywhere. It just doesn't feel like their DBs make any place. I mean, they're corners multiple times. Even on that last drive before the fourth down, Christian Watson would feel like had a third down that you thought

kind of iced the game. It ended up not really, but it was just it was an easy out route on what like third and six. It was like, it felt like training camp for the Packers. So congrats to Green Bay, massive, massive win. And we'll get out of here on this.

I was hot today. I went three for three. I think, I don't feel great about this. I feel a little bit like the Bengals against the Ravens where it's like this is, this is, too many points. It does feel like the Bears have been a little bit of a team of destiny. Love their coach, Ben Johnson.

They're getting seven points on the road. The Caleb Ben Johnson versus Vic Fangio is just an excellent matchup because I want to see how Caleb can handle Fangio. Obviously, the new added edge rushers to the Eagles, we know how good their interior defensive tackles are. If you can neutralize at all the run game for 4.4. the Bears, can Caleb just carry you throwing it against the Eagles? Can he run away and break the tackles of their defensive linemen?

Just a really, really interesting matchup. I also just wonder about the psyche of this Eagles team. That loss to, on Sunday to the Cowboys, is like, are they just going to be able to just shake that off and keep their head up and not even be phased by it? Listen, this is really going to test Siriani. because this is going to be a moment where if this game is weird, if it's like 3-3 or 7-3 bears in the second quarter,

you go 3-and-out, like they're going to boo the living, you know what, out of you. You could hear the booze. Like if you're in Pittsburgh or Atlantic City, they're going to boo so loud. This place is going to be a little on edge coming in. Not because they view the bears of some juggernaut, but it's more looking at their own team.

They have a really high standard. They're the defending champs. Their offense can look really weird. Their offensive line does not play well this year. They cannot run the ball. The rapport Jalen has with the wide receivers. He can have series where they look awesome and then it just disappears.

So I'm taking the Bears plus seven. I'm going to take Rome anytime touchdown. I'm going to throw in AJ Brown. Like first series I could see him having a touchdown. They love getting him involved to try to make everyone see. They're friends. And then he won't have a target the rest of the game. So that pays a...

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