The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Kyler Murray to the Vikings, Dak Prescott’s Wedding Drama & Massive NFL Mailbag

Episode Date: March 13, 2026

On this episode of 3 & Out, we break down a major quarterback move as Kyler Murray signs with the Minnesota Vikings. What does the deal mean for Minnesota’s offense, and how does Murray fit into the Vikings’ plans moving forward? It’s also Fugazi Friday, and we dive into the latest headline surrounding Dak Prescott reportedly calling off his wedding. What’s the story, and how much should fans actually care about off-field news like this? Plus, we open up a massive NFL mailbag, answering your questions from around the league — from quarterback debates and team outlooks to offseason moves and what to expect as the season approaches. All that and more on this episode of 3 & Out. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And I had recorded the majority of the mailbag yesterday. I was going to do a big mailbag. But I knew, you'd never know. on this time of year. A trade, a signing, and what happens? Get to my hotel. Kyler Murray is the starting quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings. J.J. McCarthy career over in Minnesota? So I said, okay, this is why I brought my microphone. Let's do a little intro to the pod, a little reaction to the story. We also have a Fugazi today that revolves around an NFL quarterback that I wanted to hit on. And then we'll dive into

the mailback. At John Middlecough. At John Middlecough is the Instagram firing those DMs. get your questions answered here on the show. That will do it for this Friday. So again, we'll react to the Kyler News. We'll do a little Fugazi and then we'll just fire into the mailbag. And you guys know the drill. Three and Out podcast. If you listen on Collins, make sure you subscribe,

all the videos on Netflix. And let's just dive into the Vikings. I think big picture, I think it's fair to say they were pretty desperate. Because I've been saying for a while, I was like, I don't know, man. You're telling me they're going to sign Kyler Murray. Kevin O'Connell, they're going to lose their GM.

He's not stake his career, but last year was a disaster and now have potential back-to-back seasons, go from J.J. McCarthy and then go to Kyler Murray. And the answer was clearly, yeah. And to me, like, I don't see it. I don't think this is going to work. I'm going to bet against the Minnesota Vikings in 2006. But I also understand where he's coming from. what were his other options?

I guess he could have got Derek Carr out of retirement, but he has to trade for that player. You know, he's not going to trade a second round pick for Mack Jones. The 49ers aren't giving him away. So he gets Kyler Murray for basically nothing because the Arizona Cardinals are paying all this money. And I think he is hoping to strike oil. He gets the guy that we saw years ago

that first half of the season with Cliff Kingsbury because he has a pretty consistent theme in the NFL of the guy gets injured. He's not a consistent player. And this is a team because of some of their core guys and because of some of the talent and because of the coach they have that has high expectation. They got Brian Flores.

They got one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. And this all gets back to making a disastrous decision when it came to JJ McCarthy. And the ripple effects of obviously they let Sam Donald walk and going all in on JJ and it blew up in their face. So they have to go with this situation, which, again, I'm just not buying. I don't believe in it.

I don't think it's going to work. I saw there was report his agent. Part of the negotiation was they're not allowed to franchise them at the end of the year. I'm pretty confident that Minnesota Vikings aren't going to be in the business of franchise tagging Kyler Murray in the spring of 2007. But I guess they just didn't have any other options. They couldn't roll out J.J. McCarthy, whose career, I would say, unofficially ended today with Minnesota Vikings. You know, and we have seen recent memory or some recent examples of guys drafted really high that do not make it to year three, right? Tray Lance wasn't even on the team.

Anthony Richardson's last year was beat out by Daniel Jones with ease. Their careers end for their teams. Now, Anthony Richardson played on the team throughout last year, but obviously he's not going to be on the team anymore now. And I think this goes to the influx of money, the pressure now in the NFL. There has never been a shorter clock on a player. You just don't get a lot of time. And J.J. McCarthy was drafted on a team that is just good that had expectations of not just making the playoffs, but like winning playoff games. And he showed last year like, we don't have time. This isn't the UFL. This isn't college. We can't just develop you year after year while you figure it out and we lose games. Not in division with the up and coming Chicago Bears who are going to be

really good next year. I mean, the Lions have a well-established quarterback and some well-established players. They're not going anywhere. And the Green Bay Packers resume as a franchise speaks for itself. So our quarterback could sink our franchise, which it essentially did last year. So I think this move out of desperation, they get them for nothing, hoping that their coach, who clearly is a big part of this can strike, you know, like he did a couple years ago with Sam Darnold. I don't necessarily see that. Like, I don't see a career resurgence like Sam. I mean, Sam threw 35 touchdowns.

They won 14 games. I do not envision that. Now, the guy we saw years ago, the young version of Kyler, there was no arguing his talent. The speed, the arm strength, it's pretty accurate. But as time has gone by, he's been banged up, can't see anything. doesn't feel like he quite moves the same. So I'm not buying this. I don't think it's necessarily going to work.

I wouldn't say at all. I don't think they're going to be a disaster, like two or three wins. But I think it's just going to be a bumpy up and down year. And I don't envision them as a playoff team with a quarterback room. Now, who knows if J.J. McCarthy is a lock to be on the team. You know, the GM's been fired. They're going to have a new GM. Who knows what Kevin O'Connell thinks of them now.

You know, he made that bold proclamation a couple years ago. that players don't let down organizations, organizations, let down players. There's definitely some truth of that. Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, but there's just sometimes, like, this is really hard. It is extremely difficult to just make the NFL,

right, as just some random special team, third string defense back. It is borderline impossible to be a quarterback in the NFL and be good. And I think J.J. McCarthy's proven, And he's more like most guys that get drafted can't play. He's not a starter. And there is so much to work on. They tried to, you know, change his mechanics last year.

And it's just like that they just don't have time for that. And maybe a team, maybe you'd be able to trade him to a team that has nothing going for it. Like the Arizona Cardinals, right, and just see if they can, you know, they're not even, they don't even have a chance to win. So I do think there would be something like, hey, we'll trade you like a six-round pick for just the opportunity to work. with this guy. And I definitely think that's on the table. We have so many moving parts. I think the negative momentum around JJ is something that's hard to shake. You know, Sam couldn't shake it. And it's why he was out of New York, right? And Baker couldn't shake it. It's why he was out

of Cleveland. So sometimes that negative tsunami of, it's not even a narrative. It's just what everyone's seeing, right? Can't play. And you sometimes need a new opportunity. Sam took it. And I think JJ needs that because it's not going to work in Minnesota. They're bringing in Kyler Murray to replace you. Like, let's just be real. It's over. And listen, if he does make it work, it would be a crowning achievement for Kevin O'Connell.

It really would. And they just lost Nailer. Obviously, they still got Jefferson. They got Addison. They reworked the running back Steel Jones. So we'll see. I mean, last year, their offensive line that was banged up, it was bad. They just, they went from a team two years ago that looked like a juggernaut to just weigh off.

So you got a lot of question marks coming into this season. And now it's like, Kyler, save us. Kyler save us. That's not really what it felt like with Sam Donald, right? You know, that there was part of resurrecting your career can also be how you enter. Right. Like, I remember when Alex Smith resurrected his career with Jim Harbaugh, the expectations were really low.

When Sam Darnold became the starter a couple years ago, after he was going to be the starter no matter what, but JJ hurt his knee in training camp, there weren't high expectations, right? Not that there are high expectations for Kyler, but he's entering a team with high expectations. Like, we should make the playoffs. If we don't, we don't view ourselves like some crappy franchise.

So I just think this thing is going to be weird. And to me, the big winners today are the other three teams in the division. because I think this shows Minnesota's, they're just out of whack. And to me, if it does go bad, they're definitely in the quarterback mix, you know, in in 2020, which by all accounts,

I struggle to do this. Like, it's going to be a great quarterback draft. We say that all the time. Sometimes it is, sometimes it's not. You never know. You know, Garrett Nussmeyer was supposed to be the number one overall pick. Then he gets injured. Now he's going to go in like the third round.

So things change dramatically fast at the quarterback position from an evaluation standpoint in college. And, yeah, I think J.J. McCarthy is a great example of a guy that played on a team that was an NFL team. Basically, every starter around them, offensive, defensive line, tight ends, running backs, linebackers, they're all pros. His coach, a high-end pro coach. Like Jim Harbaugh is one of the best coaches in the NFL. His defensive coordinators were Jesse Minter and Mike McDonald. Mike was when he wasn't starting, but definitely mentor those couple years.

Last I checked, Jesse Minter is a head coach in the NFL. Like, it doesn't get it. That's like Sabin like. Everyone around using an NFL player, your head coach is an NFL coach, a guy that's been to a Super Bowl and we'll probably get to another one. Oh, and his defensive coordinator is going to be head coach immediately once they come back to the NFL. It doesn't get much better in that.

So I think when we look back, it's like JJ led a pretty easy life. this wasn't, you know, an average team, him running around playing for, as an underdog in games. Like, they were, I mean, for two years, they were easily one of the best teams in the country. Obviously, they won the national championship, but they probably should have won it the year before, or at least been to the national championship when they lost to TCU. So, yeah, I just, this is the draft. You just never know. I say this all the time.

We always do this. There is no such thing as a high floor player. they do not exist. They're high ceiling guys because of physical attributes and stuff, but there's no such thing as a floor. Because any player cannot work out for whatever reason. And JJ worked out, I think, or didn't work out so far early in his career. And I would bet against it working out moving forward because it's not really the way the league works.

It's just, it's hard, man. It's really, really difficult. And you saw a guy last year that was completely overwhelmed and wasn't NFL. caliber, not a guy that you drafts really high and, you know, make your starting quarterback for your franchise. And I think Kevin O'Connell proved the day that, like, this isn't going to work. Let's, let's try Kyra Murray shows you where they're at. Before we dive in the mailback, I do want to hit on one Fugazi. And this involves an NFL quarterback. Now, I'm not going to speculate on what went down, but Dak Prescott was scheduled to get married in the middle of the middle of the middle of the

I think early April. And with his fiance, they had a couple kids. By all accounts, they were happy. Turns out they're not. And the wedding is off. Now, there are rumors flying. We got pre-nups, infidelities. Who knows?

Not my business. Don't even care. Because the biggest Fugazi is, I got married last year, actually. It was just my anniversary. And we got married in Nashville. And the majority of those people that were coming to my wedding were from California.

So when I say, hey, can you, do you want to come? And we didn't have a big wedding. It was like 60 people. Kept it small. But we were asking a lot, right? To get a plane flight, you, your wife, you, you're whoever. I mean, these are most couples, but mothers, cousins, you name it. To fly out, get a hotel room from multiple nights.

And this isn't a wedding where you can just hop in your, car and drive 30 minutes to go to. So whenever you have a destination wedding, and I'm sure many people listening or watching this have been to one in Mexico, have been to one wherever, right? It is somewhat of a chore. And not everyone just has unlimited resources to be like, oh, no problem. I'll get a hotel room. I'll buy a flight.

Like, it's asking a lot of people. And Dak Prescott, who is going to retire, have made like $700 million when it's all sudden done. It's like, let's get married at Lake Cuomo in I. Italy, which sounds incredible. I mean, I bet that wedding would have been bad ass. But the email they sent after the wedding got called off for whatever reason was basically like apologizing and then ended with, sorry for the inconvenience. Here's what I know.

If you are going to have a destination wedding, you almost, once you get to a certain point, I'd argue within a couple months, especially something like Italy. Like, not everyone attending this wedding is probably C.D. Lamb or Jerry Jones, probably just some normal people who are family friends would imagine probably a little expensive to hop on a bird if you live in Texas, if you live in Florida, if you live in Arizona, and fly to Italy and also stay somewhere to just say, sorry for your inconvenience. sorry whatever I did to fuck this up is now screwing you financially. Like, I'm sorry if you're going to get married in a different country, calling it off a month before it shows you. And listen, clearly this was bad to get it called off. But also, when you're that rich, it's probably hard to fathom like, oh, sorry for your inconvenience.

Sorry for your inconvenience is like going to McDonald's. ordering four cheeseburgers and only getting three. And then having to go back once you get home to grab that other cheeseburger. And then the person at the front goes, hey, sorry for your inconvenience. Here's an extra cheeseburger. That'll make it five. And a Sunday as well. Like, that's an inconvenience.

Right? Right. When you get DoorDash and they forget the sauce. Like that's, an inconvenience is not canceling an international wedding a month before for the majority of people attending. like, yeah, you guys figure it out. I mean, so whatever happened and rumors are flying, that had massive ramifications, I'm sure, on a lot of people. Because my guess is it wasn't a 10-person wedding.

So this is something that's probably hard at this point in time in Dax life, who I'm a big fan of. He's become, I'm very impressed with the play, but he's always been impressive off the field. Never judge, want to ever speculate on how people are, because you never know. I've known ugly people who are finagulars and I've known great-looking people that wouldn't cheat on their wife for a billion dollars. So you just, it's hard to judge anyone. I just know that you can never, ever call off a wedding that is in Italy when everyone

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But I'm completely blown away by what the Colts are doing the past 12 months. They gave up two first. for sauce. Then they paid wide receiver, Pierce, a massive contract. He's good, but the contract is ridiculous for a one-trick pony wide receiver that just runs down the field. Then to top it off, they signed Daniel Jones to a two-year deal at almost $50 million A.A.V.

By the way, he's coming off an Achilles injury and has played 10 quality games over the past few years. What are your thoughts on the situation, especially since most people see their GM as a high- IQ guy? my take has always been that a couple years ago, Jim Ursae forced him into the Anthony Ridge thing. It blew up in his face. So he had been there then for years. They had nothing to show.

They hadn't been in the playoffs in forever. Hadn't won the division. The Texans are thriving. The Jags are then good. He felt a sense of urgency. And then Daniel Jones, it felt like it couldn't have gotten much better, those first, whatever, two months.

They're whatever, eight and two. offense is like incredible and Daniel Jones is slinging it and he made a move that he's never come remotely close to making when he did the two first round picks for Soss Gardner which I thought was insane even if your team is excellent I thought it was a bold move

and sometimes when you get aggressive no different anyone that plays poker you put all your chips in the middle of the table it can blow up in your face and within a couple weeks of putting all of his chips in the middle of the table it did blow up in his face. Sauce got hurt, Daniel Jones got hurt,

and they imploded and they missed the playoffs. And now they don't have first round picks. They don't have a quarterback. And so they have to sign Daniel Jones, which, like I said, whatever Daniel Jones's agent is making he's underpaid, no one has done less in NFL history and made more. And to give a guy, even like you said,

you know, it's not technically a $100 million deal, but to give a guy to have to transition tag. Transition tag. Who else was giving Daniel Jones $37 million? If you offered Daniel Jones right now off an Achilles, one year $20 million, where is this market? Who else is paying the guy? I'm sorry, I don't see that happening.

Especially, and I get his different age, but Cousins got that $100 million contract off the Achilles and it was a disaster. I don't know who you're betting against, But the problem is he's so leveraged with the sauce trade, he felt obligated to do the Daniel Jones contract. And this has been back-to-back teams where Daniel Jones had them by the balls. Like, I'd argue you would have been better off franchise tagging Alec Pierce

and just being like Daniel, we'll negotiate whoever you're going to negotiate against, but we're not that worried. Right? This is, you're a businessman, we're a businessman. So I just think it got away from him. And they got, they're back against the corner, right? The number one thing you learn in life, I don't care if it's a $100 deal or $100 million deal, you never want to do any sort of business out of desperation. Because when you do business deals out of desperation, I just think you tend to regret them.

Whether that's buying a home, whether that's, you know, buying a player, whether that's any time that, you know, whatever industry you're in, when you can make solid decisions and be willing to watch. walk away, that's when you make your best decisions. And they were not only not willing to walk away, they like, all their chips were in the middle of the table on this guy. And it started with the sauce trade. That threw everything off.

What a disaster. I mean, I was texting someone a day. The Titans have a long way to go. But what if with Brian Dayball and Sala, they get Jeremiah Love, they're just competitive next year. The Texas are clearly going to be good. I would imagine the Jags are good again. I mean, there's a chance this team has to, Daniel Jones coming off on Achilles.

It's not out of the realm possibility of the Colts are last in this division. I don't know if I'd bet on that, but they're definitely a clear third. Question for the bag. Are there any other extremely loyal Max Crosby types in the league? And do you think we're starting to move, starting to move away from these divas demanding more money instead of taking more team-friendly contracts? It's worth noting. The three highest paid quarterbacks in the league, Jackson, Burrow, Prescott, all missed the playoffs.

Meanwhile, Brady was taking team-friendly discounts. I understand knowing your worth as a player, but you know what boosts your worth? Super Bowl rings. I do think there's just a balance. You know, when you want to milk the team, like Dak Prescott, he wants to milk every time the team for every dollar possible. Well, he's not good enough to make up that. difference in the setup of the league. And it's like, Dak, the difference of you making $60 million a year and let's say $50 million

a year changes your life zero. And with what you make off the field because you're the starting quarterback of the Cowboys, easily not only makes up for it, but you're one of the more marketable guys in the league because you're that position. So, like, there are decisions that are made that have like, we got to get every dollar possible and then you bitch them on your team's not good enough. and I understand if it's the difference of like this is my first big contract, totally get it.

But there are some guys, it's like, man, and I think it's hard because they go, that's not my problem. I don't have any equity in this deal. I'm just an employee. So, I mean, I see both sides from just a business standpoint. But once you get to the amount of money, once you start talking 50, 60, 70 million dollars, if someone goes, hey, man,

I took a little bit less to try to facilitate keeping these three guys. I kind of understand it, especially if you're in a big, big market or a big time team, you parlay that into so much off the field. Like, do you know marketable you are as the starting quarterback? Like, when I heard Brock Purdy didn't make anything in the first three years, like that actually wasn't true after a while. He was making a ton off the field. You know why?

Because he's the starting quarterback for the 49ers. So Toyota and these brands paying him Ariott, the boot brand. Do you think they would have paid him if he was a starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals? or some of these other brands, the New York Jets, no fucking chance on God's Green Earth. So I never understand that, but it kind of is what it is. You don't get any credit for that as a team. You just don't. Brady's an outlier.

I mean, in fairness, Peyton Manning, there were always stories when I was in the league that Polian and Tom Comden used to scream at him. Like, Polion would be like, Tom, if we pay him this, we can't sign another guy. and Tom's response is, we don't give a shit, we want every penny. Now, Peyton Manning's good enough to overcome losing some guys. Most of these quarterbacks are not. So I feel zero sympathy for Joe Burrow, like you signed a contract with the Cincinnati Bengals.

Who do you think you were getting in business with? Stafford's given some discounts last year and again this year. But he also benefits from it. Makes a ton off the field with sleep number, gets to play for McVeigh, gets to win. he's already super rich, right? And I'm with you. What you make as a multiple-time Super Bowl champion,

you become marketable forever. So, yeah, you don't make as much in the playoffs, but if you win a Super Bowl or win a couple of Super Bowls, Patrick Mahomes' earning power doesn't end once he retires. Is Dak Prescott that marketable at 49 years old? And single? Not sure. Probably won't be single then.

I just saw Brandon I yuk So I guess my point is I think a lot of guys are loyal But the business and the numbers are so big People get so emotional There's a lot of variables You got agents involved That you know are putting ideas in your in your ear You know I think the video that went viral

Of the Bill Center saying like Who took a team friendly discount Said I'm making $13 million a year Could I have made 16 sure But I live pretty high on the hog for $13 million a year I think the average person doesn't care that much and is not going to feel sympathy either way. It's just an argument.

The media gets in a lot. I just don't think most people care, especially the numbers in which are being thrown around for these players, right? Like, let's say Tyler Lindermbaum, who's making $27 million a year, making $10 million more than the next high spade center, once the Crosby deal went through,

let's say they couldn't keep them both. And Linderbom said, hey, I'll give back, I got to give back three or four million dollars a year to make Max on the team as well, on the Raiders. That's good gesture, but like gave back a couple million dollars after taxes. Like, what are we really talking? Again, it's not my money and I always respect. It's why I'm always understanding of the tax conversation with these large amounts of money.

But I also think like the difference of a $220 million contract and a $200 million contract when the dust settles, it doesn't change your life literally one iota, has zero impact. And if you're on certain teams, the amount of money, like Dak Prescott makes so much more money off the field

without a Super Bowl than Sam Darnold does on Seattle with the Super Bowl because of the brand he's on. But I don't think players care, clearly. So I think the loyalty, I think the loyalty has changed. But nothing is bigger pet peeve of mine than it's like, this is a business. Yeah, no shit.

We didn't think this was a charity. You know, like when players say that, like, yeah, we know. We didn't think this was high school football, guys. I just saw Brandon Ayyuk was released, and the Niners have to pay $30 million in dead cap. Can you explain the hell the Niners have to pay a player that quit on the team? Because Kyle and John told him to not come back to practice, I thought Iyuk was clear to play but refused, which voided the contract.

Sorry for rambling. I don't know all the details of the contract, but when you sign a contract and give a signing bonus, which Brandon Ayuk... God, my... I need a new phone. So Brandon Ayuk's contract, he got a four-year $120 million deal with a $20 million. deal with a $23 million bonus. So he was paid $23 million at the start of that contract. And then that gets kind of amortized over the course of the deal.

Most of the big cap hits on his deal were these fake years in 27, 28, 29, that they were never going to pay him on that contract, right? They would have redone it after 25, 26, 26, 27. like once you got a 28 and 29. But just because he quits doesn't mean that you still don't see the implications of the bonus money you gave him. So that cap number gets spread

and the guaranteed numbers throughout the life of the contract. It's why Derek Carr is technically still under contract for the Saints. They gave him what, like three years, 100 million, I forget his exact contract, but they gave him like $70 million guaranteed. That number, even if you retire,

Like the number that you amortized it still impacts your books. Remember, like Des Bryant and Tony Romo were not on the Cowboys. Tony was retired calling games and they were still paying for it. So it's because of that. And he definitely like gave back some of the guaranteed money. But I think the way it impacts your cap with a signing still hurt you immediately. I mean, there's no way around it. it's one of the worst contracts in the history of the league

when you factor in like some of these quarterbacks you know Tua or Kyler it felt like the team liked them the 49ers were ready to get rid of them and they wanted to get rid of them but they kept getting cold feet to Costa style and couldn't pull the trigger and then signed them to this contract that they immediately regretted and then obviously got injured

and then he just quit on the team and kind of lost his marbles just disaster all the way around no way around it complete disaster I don't quite understand all the mechanisms of like the specific numbers. I just know when you give a guy a signing bonus of 10 million, a 50 million of whatever at the life of the contract, that hit your books way later because you always push it down. But you got to pay for it.

It'd be the equivalent of like, hey, you can go buy something worth 20 grand and put it on a credit card. And you only have to pay $5 for the next couple years. But in two years, you're going to owe that entire amount of money. So it's either on you to push it back down or pay it. And that's where I think these contracts sometimes, when you get in a position where a guy gets injured, a situation like Iyuk, where you want to get out and cut. It's why the Eagles,

there are major cap ramifications for them to trade A.J. Brown. They just gave him a contract. So when you just give a guy a contract and you try to get out, the thing with Max Crosby, they didn't give him any bonus money. They didn't give them a signing bonus. They just gave them $90 million and it was guaranteed, but it was like an NBA or a Major League Baseball contract. A lot of these guys, like, yeah, I'll sign a contract,

but I want a direct deposit now, homie, at like $27 million, which has to be incredible. Yeah, just got my $30 million direct deposit. And that's where the tax dates, like, hits a lot harder when you're in Dallas. I mean, you talk about Dak. Chiching, chaing, ching. Big fan of the show.

A couple of things. Is it me? Or is the Daniel Jones contract insane? Historically below average, coming off injuries. Second, why don't teams with the number one pick just take the best quarterback and then trade them to the highest bidder

after the draft, rather than draft day trades? Well, the second part, because you, if you're going to trade the number one pick for, you know, a quarterback and get several picks, like a first, a second, and next year's one, you want to use those picks for yourself. Like, you want to make the pick, right? So if I'm trading pick one, let's say the Raiders want to trade for Dano Mendoza.

And they traded to a team for like the third pick, the 33rd pick, and next year's one and next year's three. Well, I want to pick the guy at three, and I want to pick the guy at three, and I want to pick the guy at 33. So that's the reason that doesn't happen. The Daniel Jones, I'm at a loss. But I also get it. But it's just like he just fleeces people, man. He really does. He finds himself in positions and he takes advantage of it. Is it possible Crosby may have dodged a bullet? I feel like when anyone in the media hears the Ravens, they immediately foam at the mouth and think 2013 or Prime Lamar. In reality, the Ravens,

have picked 14 for a reason, and it feels like they're in a major rebuild. They have a young unproven combo with head coach, offensive coordinator, lost their center, tight end, defensive players, Metabuki had a neck injury, Lamar looked like he lost his step last season, and his contract situation is uncertain with only two years left. Henry's 32 years old. It feels like a team with a lot of question marks. I do think that's fair. You know, likely had huge catches for Lamar. Huge catches. Starting center, whether we agree or just,

agree with the contract, there is no disputing, like a full-time starter on one of the best offenses, been a Pro Bowl level guy. Like, it's a pretty big loss. And I think DeCosta said, we've had a pretty good track record to fight at the center. It's like, yeah, I hear you, buddy, but I think

if you just ask yourself this, would you rather be on the Ravens or the Raiders? That's where I think the Lamar thing, or I mean the Max thing, like, I think any player would rather be on the Ravens next year. Now, picture, like maybe this isn't the Ravens that we used to know.

I mean, they went 8 and 9. They easily, with a missed field, it could have been 9 and 8. And who knows, maybe they win a playoff game. But I'm with you. There are some question marks. Lamar's health. Their best defensive lineman, neck injury. Hendrickson's coming off an injury.

14th pick. Like, not every rookie can just hit the ground running. So the Ravens do have a lot of legitimate question marks. That division's wide open. I mean, the Bengals, defensively, who knows? Steelers don't have a quarterback. Browns are the Browns.

Love the pod. Just had jaw surgery. So had lots of ups and downs. Perfect way for me to start my day when you drop an episode. Congrats on Jack, my wife, and I just started to go down the road of starting a family. Congratulations.

Buckle up. Question. Or I guess, rumor. I've heard being circulated around friends I have who I work around friends I have who work in the league. Rumor is that Iyuk didn't just not take his rehab for his ACL MCL meniscus tear seriously, but he didn't really rehab at all.

That's a rumor going around the internet, which you might have seen as well, which would cause the need to never be the same and he potentially never play again. I know you have deep ties to the Niners. You know what's funny is like, I have deep ties because I've been watching them my whole life, but I

is not like Kyle calls me I text John he ain't texting me back I like Parag but I am much more tied in I follow their team closely but I don't my inside information with the top boys they ain't feeding it to me

hell they get mad at me and have people call me about things I say so shit it's like I'm your supporter guys but I have no inside information on this beside what has been reported clearly just a sad disaster. Now, I said the whole time,

given a guy $75 million, it was catching 75 balls in an offense that's a run for a throw to the tight end, it never made sense. I never understood it. I never understood letting Brandon Ayyuk bend the 49ers over. I didn't get it.

I still don't get it. And his agent is the same as John Lynch's agent. I just, I'll never understand. that one. I get the Debo one. It didn't work out, but I totally understand. I've gotten all the deals. Trent Williams, Bosa, Fred Warner, extending kiddle, even Purdy. I never understood the Iyuk one. I'm on record saying like, this is crazy. You're going to pay him like Amin Ross St. Brown? What the fuck are we doing? And the answer was, from Kyle, wish we could have that one back. The biggest mistake they made is not trading him before the draft. They should have

traded him before the draft. Instead they let it go to training camp and then when they would get trades, he wouldn't sign. If they traded him before the draft, he would have gone. It would have been fine. You could have got like a second and a third and just pivoted. But they just, they were in the Super Bowl mode and then they ended up going 6 and 11. He got injured in just a nightmare. I trust John Snyder to make the right choices on drafting and free agents, but I'm a bit worried after letting a good amount of key players leave. I knew that this would happen. But I thought we would at least keep Kobe Bryant after how well he has done the last few years. I know we need a running back in a safety now that both Kenneth Walker and Kobe Bryant are gone.

Do you think they are just waiting for the draft to fill these holes? Kobe Bryant's a good player, but he got a lot of money. And if you're Seattle, you go, we got guys that we have to invest in. And to give a guy $13, $14 million a year, it's a lot. and the Kenneth Walker thing in November no one would have thought Kenneth Walker was going to get a big contract

he had one of the hottest stretches at the end of the year there was no way Seattle was going to match that contract I'm still a little surprised the chiefs gave him as much as they did but they've clearly liked them since college and I do wonder if they're going to go to a run heavy offense

but to me if you had told me that they had let a star defensive lineman, a star wide receiver, something like that, an offensive lineman, they let a running back and a safety go. Well, this draft's loaded with safeties and you can find running backs. I don't think it's that crazy. I really don't.

I have a question regarding team success in the NFL. For my investment theory class, I have to build a 10 plus factor model to accurately predict how much success a team success, team has based on preseason odds. My question is, what non-obvious factors leads teams to continue to win games year after year? It's a good question. I would say the obvious ones clearly, if you have a bad year, would be injuries, would be close game or turnover swings. A couple years ago, the chiefs were excellent close games. Last year, they were not. Turnover swings are big one. strength of schedule.

The 49ers benefited, the Patriots benefited this year from that. I would say non-obvious ones would be guys having poor seasons, right? Like if you think a team is going to win 10, 11 games and are one of the favorites to win their division or their conference, and then they have a couple players who have down years. And the other thing is,

usually good teams have higher paid players. if you have higher paid veterans who start turning the wrong way, that can be a problem, right? If you look at the Ravens, Lamar had a bad year because he was banged up, missing games. Like, it was just off. And defensively, they weren't that good. You can never factor in like Joe Burrow missed half the season. Right? Or missed, I forget exactly how many games.

Purdy did too. Purdy missed 7A games. If you would have told me at the beginning of the year, Purdy missed 7A games. but the 49ers can win like seven games. But I couldn't have factored in. Mack Jones, the backup quarterback. And the other thing is you can, it's hard to know like when you get new coordinators

or first time coaches. You never know. Like, we all like Liam Cohen with Baker Mayfield. I never thought the Jags would look as good as they looked. And his Italian defensive coordinator, they were just kicking ass and taking names. So you just, you don't know. You don't know how a guy is going to transition.

So I don't know if that answers your question. You know, there are things in a locker room maybe because every year you have a percentage of turnover. Some teams it's low 20, some teams it's like 30, 40%. I would imagine the Raiders this year turnover is going to be extremely high. The Ravens turnover is going to be really high. Chiefs turnover on defense is going to be high. You just have natural turnover in the NFL. Well, if you insert new players, whether it be.

rookies, whether it be second year guys who were drafted the previous year as backups, or whether you sign guys from other teams, there's a chemistry aspect that you never know how it's going to work, which to me is usually on the coaching staff to figure that out and create that and then build from that. But at the end of the day, the players have to get along and have to like each other and have to have some natural on-the-field chemistry, which naturally works its way to off the field chemistry. I'm a believer in. You don't have to be best friends with everybody, but typically when you like people, you work better with them, I would say. I mean, we all have done business with people we hate. It's much more enjoyable to do business with people you like.

So I don't know if that answers your question. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer. I mean, team study this every year. Like did the Chiefs, why do they, why do they, the Chiefs take a huge step back last year. Well, Mahomes didn't have a great year. Kelsey had a big time down year. Their offensive line issues, right? Simmons missed some games. The right tackle was an issue.

Receivers were hit or miss. Defense, Carlottis wasn't as good. He had just been paid. It's not like their coaches got dumb overnight, right? It's not like Mahomes forgot how to play. It's just like, shit happens. It's hard. I think it's very, very, very,

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Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. As an Eagles fan, the loss of Stoutland, the offensive line coach, concerns me. Can you go into how important an elite position group coach is, not only for the preparation and game day, but with the draft coming up, talent evaluation? Do these guys have more input than scouts, coordinators, head coaches regarding their position group?

Side question. As a new dad engulfed myself, thoughts on bringing the baby kid to the golf course and push on the golf course in a push-cart stroller. Good in theory, but as someone who is conscious of others and hates noise in the back swing, not sure I can get on board. To me, they have to be at a certain age

where you can just kind of put them in the cart. I think the stroller, I don't know if I would do that. Maybe to the range, but you'd have to, like you said, you have to have an area in the range. What do you do when it starts crying? You got to grab it.

I'm not a big bring the baby to the golf course until they hit somewhat of a certain age until maybe they can start playing. Great question, though. From what I've heard, like, it was time. Stoutland is at an incredible career. He's been one of the best offensive line coaches in the league. He will be an offensive line coach. I'm sure if he wants to keep coaching again.

But there gets to a point for certain coaches, position coaches. Like, he kind of got to get along with the other coaches. You're not the boss, right? You are, I don't want to say a worker bee, but in the hierarchy, like, you ate the head honcho. So, like, this year, I think there was some button heads. And it's like you're paid $3.5 million. And the offensive line was playing like shit.

So I... I'm not sure people in Philly were like... I think everyone was... It was time. Incredible run, ton of credit for what they've accomplished for Kelsey and Malata and Lane Johnson and all these guys. But from what I had heard, It was time.

And some of that is like, you start making $3.5 million of the offensive line coach. You don't listen to anybody. And it's like you're a position coach. You ask your players to listen to other people. And Stoughtlin's not alone on this. A lot of coaches get like this. We've talked about this before. Eagles get so big with some of these position coaches because they make so much money.

When you make $75,000, you kind of got to listen to the boss. You start making millions of dollars. It's like, oh, are you? the CEO? No. Are you the number two? No. I'm like the three or four, but I make so much, and I'm on a guarantee contract, I can do whatever I want. I think it became a problem. So, time will tell with the new offensive line coach and the new staff. That to me is a question mark, but I don't have an issue with the divorce from what I know with Stowland. Sometimes it's just time. If you don't get along, and this happens, all sorts of coaching staffs, some of

these position coaches, start pushing back, it happens with coordinators with head coaches, it's not, you can't function. Like, you got to get a divorce. You have to separate. So I think that played a role. You're a new dad. So I thought you're a good one to ask. My fiance's brother and wife, so your future brother-in-law, had a child this year, was her first niece or nephew, so she was understandably very, very. very excited. I am the youngest of a big family, so already had a few, lost its luster a bit. Was fun to begin with, but her niece totally dominates her family's life and partially mine. Most of our conversations are about her. FaceTime at least once a day. And when we see here,

we're the ones tasked with diapers, feedings, bass, etc. It feels like I'm raising. I'm raising. a child that's not ours. Am I an ass for thinking this? Absolutely not. It can be really annoying when parents, young parents, all they talk with their friends about is their kid. Like, that's just the only level of conversation.

It's like we're adults. Can we have some other conversations too? Like, can we just be adults as well? Like, there has to be some sort of a balance. But it's also understandable when you have a child, especially for her. I mean, my wife's like living with Jack. I mean, they spend every waking moment.

She took her to the real estate office today to like, everyone wanted to meet her. So she just, they went at like lunchtime. And every time she would hand Jack off to someone else, he would freak. Like he is so connected to her now eight weeks in the life, right? So their connection is, the connection between the woman and the child

and the father in the child early on is just way different. If someone, if I had a friend or a brother or sister came over to my house and I tasked them with changing the diapers and feeding, if you told me my brother or brother-in-law shoved me, screamed at me, or refused to ever come over again, I would not blame them. That is fucking ridiculous. Now, it's one thing like, hey, could you help me grab that bottle or whatever?

Totally understandable. But if you come over and you just act as a babysitter, it's like, I ain't your mom. We ain't, you ain't paying us. That's ridiculous to me. Especially you. If your wife or fiancee wants to do it and doesn't mind. But if they say, hey, could you go change the diaper? Like, ah, that's a no.

That's a no for me, Doug. Like, that's, that seems outrageous. And they are, they are pushing the envelope on this one. So I'm with you. I think that this is a boundary cross for sure. Now, here's a thing. If you don't establish some boundaries or ground rules, people will take advantage of you.

Whether it be when it comes to babysitting and that type stuff, whether it comes to work, I don't care what it is. And these, it's a lot easier in professional settings when you're kind of less emotionally tied. You could be a little more aggressive, right? It's a little more cutthroat in the private sector. With family, it can be delicate. Because what are you going to stand up and say,

I'm never changing your baby's diaper ever again. Don't ever ask me to do that. That might not go well. So you got to be kind of tactful with how you approach this. But there's got to be some sort of like, maybe you got to tell your wife, maybe your fiancee, like, we got to get this back. Like, this is kind of got an egregious.

Maybe you work through the parents. But then you got to balance it where you don't feel like you're gossiping about them. I don't know. You're in a tough situation. I do know this, though. You got to plug the hole before that leak gets way worse. So you've got to be very careful. This thing could take on a life of its own.

I don't have a great answer for you, though. No one's ever asked me, and I'm the last guy in my life to have a baby. I guess I got one more buddy who probably have a baby here. soon, but brothers, cousins, friends, like, most everyone I know has a little kid. I've never, ever gone to someone's house with a baby and changed someone else's diaper. The first diaper I've ever changed was my own sons. And I do think for the most part, for a guy, that should be the case. Unless something situation like, you know, a tragedy happens or something you take over

someone else's child, totally. But in a situation like that, that to me feels egregious. That does. I just moved my whole family out to California from Kansas and started law school at Stanford. Jesus, we got a smart listener. Your pod has been great to football, and I love to hear your chief's takes since you know Vech and Andy. My question, I keep seeing pundits discounting the Chiefs as if they were not in the Super Bowl over and over. I trust the team to get back, but something has seemed off with their offense the last few years.

What do you think needs to change? Well, Mahomes wasn't good last year. Running the ball has been a problem. So, easiest way to get Mahomes back on track, take a little pressure off him, run the football, get Kenneth Walker, be very fascinated, improve the offensive line. You draft Simmons last year. You already got a couple good interior offensive linemen. You draft a right tackle at nine, and boom, you got a good offensive line. That's simple.

So, and what do you do with a good up? Run the ball. You still got Kelsey Roshy Rice if he doesn't get suspended for life. And, you know, worthy is an interesting player. You could draft a weapon in the second round, whether that's a tight end,

whether that's a wide receiver. I think you use it on a skill guy in the second round. But you just lost touching dudes on defense as well. So, cheese, have some holes. There's no way around that. I would feel pretty confident that at least maybe 26 won't be a Super Bowl year,

but like you should be a playoff team if I'm home selfie. With Shane Lowry's meltdown, you mentioned the viewers love to see golfers struggle and choke. And I agree. I always love watching the U.S. Open when guys are making bogeys and scoring around even par. But why is this?

In other sports, we don't root for guys to choke or suck unless they're playing against your team. We'd never say we enjoy watching Mahomes, throw picks or see KD miss shots. I think this is pretty simple. Because when you watch football, or you watch baseball, you watch basketball, you like want to see greatness, right?

It's cool to watch a guy just drain, Steph Curry drain threes, or guy hit home runs, or sweet plays on a football field. Most of us, after high school, are not playing any of those sports. So it's like you kind of dream Like what would it be like to be sweet

A lot of people that watch golf Play golf and suck at golf So the most relatable thing When you're watching The best players or the random guy On the PGA Tour do Is to hit a crappy shot Pump 1 OB

Hit one in the water You know why Because whether you're a 5 handicap Or whether you're a 20 handicap If I say hey this hole's for 100 bucks we have all, or this holds for five bucks, hit one behind a tree, hit one in a bush, hit one in the water. It actually is like, damn, can't believe he did that.

Because you know you can do that. When I see Aaron Judge or Bryce Harper hit one 450 feet, none of us are doing that. When I see Sequin bust a 70-yard run, you know, 25 miles an hour, like, I've never seen that before. And that's, no one's doing that, right? or when you watch LeBron or Kevin Duran or whoever, it's like, never seen anyone that could do that.

Or in golf, like, I've seen guys that hit in the water. I literally hit in the water. I just think it's a relatable. Golf's the one sport that people can play in their 60s, we can argue with there's activity, that you can play well in your 70s if you're in decent health. No one's playing tackle football. Like, if you don't play in high school or college,

past 21. You know, even people that play like Beer League softball. It's a lot different than like fast pitch baseball. Even like a run at the gym. It's a lot different than playing organized high school or college basketball. So playing golf, playing golf.

Like Shane Lowry melting down at, what was that, the Cognison a couple weeks ago, is he would hit the same shot. You would if you're standing there. 180 yard par three. We've all played 180 yard par three. So the one thing I say about golf that's different than my relationship with football is like,

I'm never going to play a football game on Lambo Field. I'm never going to play a pickup game at MSG. But I've played Olympic Club. I've played TBC Scottsdale. Like I've played or I've walked, you know, Pebble Beach and Oronomic and, you know, some of these courses. I played LACC where they had the U.S. Open. I can do the things the pros do.

And that's what makes, I think, golf just this unique connection to people that play that also watch the pros play, then I never played in the NFL. I don't know what's like to, you know, have a broken, you know, toe and try to block Miles Garrett. But I like watching it. I enjoy it. I respect the shit out of it.

Question. With the McDuffie trade, do you do you, still think Chris Jones is traded. I know you were saying that at the start of the off season, but wonder, no, I don't anymore. I mean, at this point in time, I would guess he's just on the team. And I guess I underestimated their emotional connection. Obviously with Mahomes, like, they're quarterback. But Chris Jones, Travis Kelsey, I think they are much more connected and vested with those guys than the average team is with an aging veteran.

So there's a connection that Andy has with those guys. that is something that I underestimated because I would have bet he was traded. And not only is he not traded, he's probably going to be on a team next year. And they'd probably say we need him on the team, which I kind of understand. For the mailback,

specifically Fugazi Friday. On a scale of 1 to 10, how Fugazi was Bam out of Bios' 83 point game against the Wizards. Well, he shot 43 free throw attempts. What do you make? 38 of them. I googled it today. It's the most free throw attempts ever in a game.

He shot under 50% from the field, and he shot under 30% from three. So below league averages on both. I don't. I didn't do a deep dive into Kobe's game against the Raptors who, I could be wrong. I don't think we're good that year. And they were up 20, and he stayed in the game. I never have a problem with the guy staying in a game when he has a lot of points. I was, was I there?

No, I don't think I was watching home. I went so many Warriors games saw so many moments I think I was watching in Emeryville when Clay had the 37 quarter I thought Steve Kerr should let him play the whole game and get like 70 points but he didn't

because they were up a ton they were back then they were blowing everybody out and maybe the game was in Sacramento I don't even remember but the 37 point quarters Clay's had more important moments like the game 6 against OKC but that is the crazy

thing I've ever seen, probably any player do. I mean, it was absurd. He couldn't miss. And I'm all for just like, let it play out, whatever. But when you are not making that many shots and getting fouled at the rate, then I googled last night, because I was on the group text for three and out, I'm like, how many points this guy average? 20.

So I googled it. He averages 18.5. So it's not like Bam is Kobe or wilt, like a guy that, you know, is a 30, 35 point a game score. It's not his game, really. So when I saw the ticker come, I went, is this, is this fake? I honestly had the same reaction when I saw Bam scored 83 than when I saw the, the, uh, Ravens did takebacks. I didn't, I didn't believe it. I thought it was fake. And then once you see the numbers, you're like, what, what? Now, I also don't want to sound like a hater. You score 83, you score 83. I just think we've seen some scoring games, you know, the same.

60-pointers over the years. Obviously, Kobe's 81. I just felt like, I don't know, something. Kobe, Wilt, and Bam, Otabio are on the same list. How many did Kobe score his last game?

Oh, he scored 50. So Kobe's last game, which is one of the cooler games I've ever watched. And I'm a Laker hater. I mainly, I hated Kobe. And then I liked him a lot once he retired. But in that game, Kobe had 50 points. No, he had 60 points.

He went in 22 of 50 and 6 of 21 from 3 point. But he only took 12 free throws. Like to shoot 43 free throws, that to me is, I haven't watched any of the game. Honestly, I haven't even watched the highlight. but when you tell me he shot 43 free throws that to me is a pretty big that's a pretty big Fugazi

and I get it you're playing a team that doesn't want to win I'm just going to go to his box warrior so he was 20 of 43 so that's I that's whatever you're gunning 7 of 22 from 3 which is it great but you shoot 7 3 you make 7 3s you score 20 points the 36 to 43 free throws.

Like, that is fucking absurd. There was no one in this game. Like, none of the Wizards had more than eight. What would you say is a lot of free throws in a game for a player to take? Like, 14? 18? 43? How's that even possible?

How many guys fouled out on the Wizards? Doesn't look like anyone did. 43 free throw attempts. To me, that's the Fugazi. Like, you just can't have that many free throw attempts in us to take the game. It's like, okay, that's like an all-time great game. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

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But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with the name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember I think it was on a call about what we should call it And we were thinking I'm originally calling it One of the early names of our band Before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down

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Bears fan here. I feel as the Packers are retooling their teams this season. Wouldn't this open up an opportunity for the Bears to be all in, specifically with Caleb's rookie deal? I feel like there's pressure for Chicago to take the next two years. You really take the next step into being a Super Bowl team. I totally agree. I said this the other day.

If Caleb gets a little bit better and they make an aggressive move or have a good draft, like I don't see why they couldn't, be the number one seed in the NFC, or compete to be the number one seed in the NFC. I mean, this year they were technically the two seed, but I think we all agree. It was a little smoke and mirrors as a two seed, right? They just have these magical moments. Their defense was bad. I do think next year, like, they could be really good if they make a move or two to go into next year.

Whether that's trade a draft pick for a player, still acquire a guy, I don't know. but they are, they got multiple picks at the end of the second round. Maybe they can move up in the first round, package one of those picks to get higher to pick a better player. But I think this year, they have a big time opportunity. Seattle's still going to be good.

The Rams are going to be favored. The 49ers have a bunch of injury still. The Eagles got a lot going on. The South stinks. The Packers and the Lions, all these teams have a lot of question marks. the Vikings don't have a quarterback so

I think it's wide open for the bear I'm with you I think there's a great opportunity if you tell me Caleb is way more accurate this year they easily could be like a 13-14 like legitimate like this team can win the Super Bowl I think we all agree like they weren't going to win the Super Bowl last year with their defense

but if their defense is just solid and he gets like doesn't just need the magical moments but he can just be consistently good for quarters right and not just have like awful moments where he's like skipping balls or airmailing balls, they could be dumb with their coach. I'm pretty high on the bears coming in the next year. But also, like, that's what's fascinating about pro sports is everyone's going to be high on

them. Everyone's going to be blowing them. Everyone's going to anoint them. Like, how do they respond? And I'm fascinated to watch. And I'm, that was as fun as I had watching football, watching their team play last year. It was from an entertainment standpoint. point and I got no dog in the fight, just watching them play.

It was a joy. It was fun to watch Bears football. I love big cities that love football. Their home games were awesome. Their Packer games were incredible. That Rams game was just theater. It was thoroughly enjoyable. If I'm a Bears fan, I'm with you.

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