The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Micah Parsons requests TRADE from Dallas Cowboys

Episode Date: August 3, 2025

John Middlekauff reacts to Dallas Cowboys star edge rusher Micah Parsons requesting a trade from the Dallas Cowboys. John explains how owner Jerry Jones has allowed this negotiations to deteriorate, due to not wanting to engage with Parsons' agent, David Mugheleta. John discusses what this means for the Cowboys moving forward, and how the Washington Commanders could be dealing with a similar public fallout due to their similar issue with star wide reciever Terry McLaurin. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is going on, everybody? How are we doing? It was Friday at about lunch. I just, I'd been busy in the morning, so I was headed out to the gym, and I get a million texts and Instagram posts forwarded to me and tweets forwarded to me on the growing story slash. trade request that is Micah Parsons. So I, right around noon on Friday, I did a little reaction video for YouTube and I said, you know what, let's post this as well on the podcast feed. So this was a reaction I did in relation to Micah Parsons demanding a trade. The Bravo reality show that is Jerry Jones and the Cowboys, the ego, the pride and everything that has gotten the way now of this negotiation,

which has gotten really ugly. Now, I'll discuss in this as well. This isn't some of these other sports where you demand a trade, and you're not only getting traded, you're going to tell where to go. This is the NFL, and the management has a lot of juice, and I don't expect him necessarily to get traded. But Terry McLaurin, I think the big winners of the day are the last couple of days are the Eagles, who I don't know if you've heard,

but they're defending Super Bowl champions, and they're in the division with two teams whose best players or, you know, Terry is probably obviously after Jaden. Micah, I'd say, is their best player. Him and CD did one of them's demanding a trade now. So this is just, this is the NFL. But more specifically, this is the Cowboys. So let's dive into some of the details that Micah Parsons tweeted out.

I don't want to screw this up. Thank you, Dallas. the star pass rusher has officially asked for a trade. Scary Terry did it yesterday. The Dallas Cowboys star pass rusher who has been wanting a contract obviously says I wanted to be here. I did everything I could to show that I wanted to be a cowboy and wear the star in my helmet. I wanted to play in front of the best fans in sports and make this America's team once again. The team my pops and I grew up cheering for way up in Harrison.

Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, I no longer want to be here. I no longer want to be held too close to the door negotiations without my agent present. I'm not going to read the rest because Michael Parsons wrote a book. But Diana Rusini tweeted yesterday that their relationship has been deteriorating. Clearly, I think the root of this issue, I've been saying this for a while. I grew up, my dad was a little bit older when he had me. And by the time I was like 20 years old, of his friends, late 60s, early 70s, a lot of farmers, a lot of old school businessmen, very stubborn group, especially the ones who are still having success late at that stage of their life.

And I think Jerry, a guy in his 80s, who's extremely prideful in these situations, we have seen from C.D. Lamb to D. Prescott, these drag on forever. And ultimately, he's paid deck multiple times. He paid CD a boatload. For whatever reason, he will not contact David Mugeta, who at this point in time is, if not the most powerful agent, easily one B or one C. Right? For a long time, it was Tom Condon, Drew Rosenhouse, Malgetta, and Jerry just doesn't want to deal with him and refuses to call him. And obviously, Mugeta is not contacting him. So the conversations and the communications, I mean, part of being a GM, I say this all the time when it comes to, you know, obviously any assistant coach who becomes a head coach and any assistant GM or scouting director that becomes the GM, it is so much more than just sitting in a dark room and watching tape of potential free agents, of dudes on practice squads, and obviously dudes in college. You are constantly managing up and dealing with agents.

So you're dealing with the owner and dealing with the agents. No matter how much you like or dislike that part of the job, it is a massive part of the job. And now with these guys, you know, some of the star players, non-quarterbacks in the NFL, are getting NBA-level contracts. Like Micah Parsons would get, I would guess, 140 guaranteed and probably a total value worth $200 million.

So you're looking at a player that if they do not get injured, and he plays at a high level is going to see every penny. I say this all the time about these quarterbacks. We spend a lot of time, and I'm guilty of this too, hammering on guaranteed money. Like how much guaranteed money DAC got

or how much money CD Lamb got? Last time I checked, Dax made every penny of every contract, non-guaranteed and guaranteed. If CD Lamb doesn't have a catastrophic injury, he's going to see every penny of that contract. Most of the star players in the NFL are just going to ching,

cha-ching, chiching, all the way to the bank, non-guaranteed and pro and guaranteed. When you start falling off a cliff like Russell Wilson, they throw you to the wolves, rightfully so. I don't want you on this team. You suck. But most of these players all throughout the league,

you go through every good team or every star player, they are seeing every penny of that contract. But you were talking an enormous amount of money. I saw this on, I think, Twitter the other day, is this thing went viral of Jerry Jones negotiating with Dion Sanders, back when he signed him in whatever, 90, it would have been probably the spring of 95, because the 49ers won the Super Bowl with Dion Sanders in 94. They won the Super Bowl, like February of 95, so Jerry would have signed him a couple

months later or a month later. And he went behind Stephen, who was running the cap at the time. I mean, the cap was like two years old and just did the deal with Dion and gave Dion, I think, $13 million signing bonus slash guaranteed money. up front and basically hit his account and then paid him the minimum for the next couple years. And Stephen Jones is like, what the hell? And Jerry used to be this crazy dealmaker doing stuff like that, this kind of maverick, just doing whatever it took. Now he's become, in a weird way, one, anytime you become old and you are as wealthy as Jerry is, it is easy to

be stubborn. Most guys in their 80s who have unlimited cash and have a lot of power and a lot of juice aren't super like open-minded and willing to do things that back in the day they maybe didn't have to do. And even Dion was quoted on this video that I saw was like, this video happened only because me and Jerry worked out the deal. It was just me and Jerry. And I think Jerry, this old school businessman from the 70s, the 80s and the 90s, these agents didn't play as big of a role. Well, times have changed. And these guys are integral parts of these negotiations. And a guy like Micah Parsons is just very valuable, right? And you're looking at just an enormous contract. You're seeing T.J. Watt and Max Crosby get third contracts as past rushers and get 100 plus guaranteed. So a

couple years ago, Nick Bosa got 125. You're talking, I mean, potential, Mike, 150. Or when you factor in inflation, the natural growth of the salary cap, the natural growth of the media deals. Like, these are, this is basically a quarterback contract. But Jerry and their front office has to know this. So to get it and make it this weird, it's like it is, it is avoidable. It really is avoidable. Sometimes you're at an impasse over negotiations, right?

They want 10 million more than you're willing to pay and you just work through it, right? Money's all relative, so it could be a $5 million contract or it could be a $200 million our contract and you work through it and most of these contracts in the NFL eventually work themselves out some become a little more contentious than others but for if i want to keep you and like micassart wants to be there we can figure this out but when you get in these situations clearly it's like there's a lot of ego involved there's a lot of personality involved this becomes less about the actual money and in the actual play on the field and becomes this circus and that's what the dallas cowboys have become a circus so that video

of Jerry back in the mid-90s when he was in his prime as a businessman when the Cowboys were in their prime as a roster and everything was running. I grew up in Northern California and the Niners were a fucking dynasty and they were the one team that could beat him and beat him a lot. And Jerry obviously his ego got fired Jimmy like he had to be a big part of it. And let's face it, past 96, like they've had some good regular season teams, but they haven't done shit, haven't been to a conference championship. Think how insane that is.

How many teams in the league over the last day? 10 years haven't been to a conference championship. Think about the natural turn. The Jags were there not that long ago. And I think when you look at this cowboy situation, it all stems back to Jerry, right? Because they've proven. They actually can pick pretty good players. They can build a pretty good team.

I mean, a couple years ago, they had a team that I thought was worthy of competing first Super Bowl. Now, Dax shit the bed in the second round against the 49ers, but their defense was elite. Dan Quinn had the defense humming. Their offense was pretty damn good. And Dak shit the bed. And they lost the 49ers on the road in a game that was winnable. And other than that, and even the year before when they lost the Niners at home,

they had a really good team. And now you're looking at a team whose roster's not quite the same, who's very dependent on some young offensive linemen. I still don't know about their running backs. But the best player on their team, one of them, CD's pretty elite too. You just get in these situations. And you have a first-year head coach. in Brian Schadenheimer that I think it's easy to shit on the guy.

But like the reality and the facts are no other team was hiring Brian Schottenheimer to be their quarterback or be their head coach. Nobody. You could argue no one in the league was hiring him to be their offensive coordinator. And that's who Jerry made the head coach. I mean, sometimes I see Jason Garrett on television and I go, I don't know who's hiring this guy, some fucking suit at NBC. Like this guy doesn't resonate with any of us. Like he's just, he's not very good on television.

He's just bad. He obviously wasn't below average head coach. I mean, the guy is, it's crazy that he had a job as long as he did, but he was obviously kind of a made man in the Dallas Cowboy Mob because he's awful on TV. He was a guy that any Cowboy fan wanted fired about year too into the thing. But somehow, everywhere we look, it's always Jason Garrett around. And that is the power of the Cowboys.

Like, people always get very angry. He's like, why is everyone talking about the Cowboys? Why is everyone talking about the Cowboys? because for as crazy as they haven't won in a long time, they are a massive brand that does huge numbers that's not debatable. It's like, why are the TV shows always talking about it? Well, they got these things called metrics, and they can tell when you're watching and when you're not watching.

Like, they kind of know what's going on. They would talk about the Jags if they did the same numbers, but they don't, so they don't talk about it. It's just a numbers game. And I think the Cowboys and Jerry's very egotistical about that notion of I got the biggest brand, I got the biggest team, my team generates the most money, but they never fucking win. And he's a big reason why.

You hire average coaches. You always getting these weird disputes over these players. You never do these contracts right. Meanwhile, you get the best GM and one of the best run organizations in your division who operates the complete opposite way. I mean, Howie and the Eagles have to be today, or really the last 24 hours. They got Scary Terry who's demanding a trade and doesn't look like Washington's going to pay him. and you got Micah demanding a trade and who knows how this is going to play out.

Now, let me say this. I've been talking here for a while. The NFL is not the NBA. Just because you demand a trade doesn't mean anyone actually gives a shit and you actually get traded. We see guys demand trades all the time and they go nowhere. So I'm not acting like Micah Parsons is going to get traded or Terry McLaren is going to get traded. If I was a betting man, I would bet neither guy gets traded. That's not the way this league works.

This isn't, you know, Kevin Durant or some of these guys are like, trade me and they're like, where do you want to go? That's not the way this sport works, which actually becomes more profan that way because you're not worried, like, if this was these other sports, baseball or basketball, you'd be like, he's gone. And that's, I do not expect Michael Parsons to be

traded, but this is a circus. And you know, Adam Peters, who I've known for a while, like, I understood why he made these trades in the offseason, but I've said before, I do think trading for Debo, he's making the same money as Terry, and Terry just goes, I just, 13 touchdowns last year. One, I'm

underpaid, but two, I'm not making the same as this guy when I've been in this organization. So these locker room dynamics are a huge part of being the GM. It's why this offseason, what did Howie Roseman do? Did he have to pay Sequan? Of course not. But why did he do it? Because everyone looks around and goes, who's the best player on this team? It's not our quarterback, who's the highest paid player on this team.

It's our running back. And we have a team full of stars. AJ Brown, Blaine Johnson, like, I mean, star players. Jalen Carter, who's not eligible to get paid. like we got to take care of this guy because money does kind of demand respect, right? When you're an elite player, how much you make, it's all public. This isn't like most of our jobs. You're like, I don't really know how much this guy makes.

This isn't public information. And I think you look at this situation. It's just always Jerry. Like ultimately, I think Washington is much more stable now. They will get this figured out in some form or fashion. I think the Cowboys would be like, yeah, we just don't care. You know, it's like, what are you going to do now? Paul David Mulgetta, I apologize.

Can we figure something out? Anyone who's been part in negotiations, whether it's negotiating a salary, whether it's negotiations with a loved one, you know, a girlfriend, a wife about trying to figure something out, whether it's negotiating to buy a house. The moment your ego and your pride and stuff gets involved and you can't take the emotion out of it. So what coward do you say? Take the emotion out of it.

That's how best the best negotiations happen, especially at the, the price points in which we're talking. It's like, can you take the negotiate? That's where I think the commanders are like, listen, Terry, we love you, but we're not paying you $38 million a year. There's no fucking chance on God's Green Earth that's happening. Because that's a non-emotional decision. Like, we just, I don't keep, this is, that's crazy.

It's not happening. And he's going, well, I deserve more than DK, right? And you're like, well, I mean, do you? I mean, we're maybe willing to give you somewhat in that vicinity. So I just think this cowboy thing is very emotionally driven. and it's just become an absolute shit show. It's why, and let's face it. Like even Washington's a little weird with one of their most famous players.

I mean, obviously now with Jaden, probably their second most important guy, that it's just like get me out of here. I don't want to be here. He's holding out and he's holding in and Micah's holding in. These things become hard to overcome. I saw what the 49ers last year was like year after year after year of like trade request, hold out, trade requests. It's like, God, it just weird.

It wears on the locker room. It wears on the coaching staff. It's like, it's just, it's, these are human beings. Wait, wears on the fans. It's like, God, this is so exhausting. This is so avoidable. Pro golfers drive for show and puff for some dough. And the easiest way to make you some dough

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T.J. Watt is going to go down. as one of the better players in the history of a pretty legendary franchise. It's like, hey, guys, I need some more money. And we all know it. It's time we figure something out. And at first, it's just natural negotiations, but you keep it, you keep it private.

And eventually something just gets done. It's like, boom, we're off and runner. And I just think this is kind of the opposite. Listen, Jimmy Haslam gets shit on. Right? Get shit on constantly. And earned a lot of that negativity and the animosity that comes from the fans.

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And he deals with football and he's like, yeah, we're not trading you. And what do they do? They're like, what do you need? Break you off and just settle everything down immediately. And the Cowboys just never do that. All these other good organizations, and I'm not putting, you know, Terry's 29, 30-year-old wide receiver. Mike is in the prime of his career. And at the end of the day, like if I wanted to defend Washington big picture, like I can find wide receivers.

Find them every year in the draft in different rounds. You get, you know, for every Jamar Chase that's drafted fifth, there's Justin Jefferson that's drafted in the 20s. There's A.J. Brown, D.K. Meccaff, drafted the end of the second, or middle of the second round. Right. Keenan Allen, who's had an incredible career. He's a free agent right now. Draft in the third round.

You know, Devante Adams, middle, late second round. It's like that is a, there's no, like, Miles Garrett's, don't, Max Crosby is such an outlier to find an elite player in the fifth round or whatever. Like that, Nick Bosa, Joey Bosa, like, just think of all the top linemen over the past 10 plus years, Khalil Mack, where they are drafted. Micah Parsons looking back, it's one of the crazier stories, like, how did he fall out of the top 10? Well, part of it was 2020 the season he sat out like Jim Arches. If he had played, does he end up ever sniffing coming to the Cowboys?

Probably not. If he had played and that season had been normal, what are we talking about? A guy top five pick? The first non-quarterback off the board? Probably. I mean, I think it's sometimes it's hard to play that game with hindsight. I think given those circumstances, the way football was thrown, obviously a world was thrown in a loop.

football is thrown into a loop, and he fell to them, and they got lucky because of that situation. So now they find themselves in just avoidable problem. I think that's the moral of this story. Avoidable problem. And Jerry never avoids problems. He just does not avoid problems. And he has a coach that the conventional thought and the dialogue around him is going to be, God, this is, you got a guy.

that might be over his head to begin with, that shouldn't be in this position, and now you're saddling him with this. These type situations are taxing on Andy Reid's, on Mike Tomlins, on I saw it with Kyle Shanahan, let alone a guy that no one has ever thought about him being a head coach for a decade plus,

15 years. He was kind of in the mix in like 08, 09, 10, and then ever since then, it's like, this guy has not been, and now this is his problem, the best player on his team, definitely on his defense, defense. You got Iber Fluse, who's, I guess, a good defensive coach, but good luck, buddy. Godspeed to you guys.

So it's just an absolute shit show. And let's face it, they are just, they're the Bravo reality television show of the NFL. They're like a summer house. They're like Southern charm. They do massive numbers. They draw a massive interest. But it's just a constant shit show. And the one thing you know when the season starts like this, team ain't winning. They might win double-digit gains, but bet against them in the playoffs. And as we saw last year, they're an injury two away because they're kind of built like a basketball team. They got three or four guys who are making all the money who have to play at an elite level. And if one or two of them get injured, write them off because they are going to suck. And they already got some issues going on. Got some offensive linemen that are banged up.

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You usually don't just like, hey, back to back pro bowl guards, back to back pro bowl tackles. Not the way it works. Oh, and then on top of it, you have the best team in the league, let alone your conference, let alone your division, just lick in their lips to play you. Look in their lips.

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Like, he's a big time player. They got Brian Burns. They got Dexter Lawrence. So if you do have some offensive line issues, they will destroy DAC. I mean, he will be a sitting duck, and is this team going to be some great running the football operation? Not quite sure. So just another day in Bravo land. I mean Dallas for Jerry and the Cowboys.

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