The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - NFL Kicking off on a Wednesday, Latest with Puka Nacua, Final Four Picks

Episode Date: March 26, 2026

A wide-ranging episode of 3 & Out tackling some of the biggest conversations across football and college sports. The show opens with a take on the NFL potentially kicking off on a Wednesday and wh...y it doesn’t sit right, breaking down what it means for the league’s traditional calendar. Then, a look at how college sports continue to evolve in the NIL era and the long-term impact on programs, players, and the overall landscape. From there, the focus shifts to Puka Nacua and the latest surrounding his off-field situation, followed by an update on Patrick Mahomes and his timeline as he tracks toward a return. The episode also dives into Ty Simpson’s draft outlook, where he should be selected, and how teams may evaluate his upside at the next level. To close, Final Four picks and a breakdown of the remaining teams as March Madness reaches its peak. Finally, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:34 Happy Sweet 16. Let's go Arkansas and the Johnny's. I'll actually pick my final four. a little bit later. But we got a busy, busy show. Because I need to dive in on the Australian game, which is kicking off at 10.30 a.m. on Friday in Australia for the Niners and the Rams. A take with college sports that is driving me nuts I want to dive into. Puka Nakua feels like the guy's kind of life set a fork in the road.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Ty Simpson, that argument just continues. There's video of Mahomes. we will do a little change of scenery today and we'll end with a couple mailbag questions at John Middlecoff is the Instagram firing those DMs so yeah that'll kind of do we got a lot going on I'm fired up for today's show you guys know the drill if you listen on Collins feed
Starting point is 00:03:24 make sure you subscribe to three and out if all of our video all of our video up on Netflix go check that out I'm actually recording this before the Giants Yankees, which is also on Netflix. It's weird. I mean, I grew up a diehard Giants fan, but I kind of enjoy the Yankees in a weird way, because I don't think the Giants are going to be any good.
Starting point is 00:03:47 I'm going to root for the Yankees this year. Maybe not tonight. But I'm excited for a little regular season baseball on in the background. But let's dive into some football. I do want to start with the news that because of the dates and there are rules with high school football that the NFL can't play on Friday during a certain stretch of the year. And because this year, the first week falls under that timeframe, we're not going to be able to play on Friday.
Starting point is 00:04:19 So they're pushing Seattle, which the defending champs always host the opening game on Wednesday because the 49ers in Rams, which we've been talking about, are, you know, it's well, I mean, well known now, are playing in Australia. And because of the flight, you know, it's going to take them, you know, a day and a half to get there. They can't do it just in a random weekend. It's got to be week one, right? And I want to start overall, like, I understand the mindset between international football, like trying to grow in other markets, especially when you're going to get in bed with people like Netflix,
Starting point is 00:05:01 which we love being in bed with them here. Apple Plus, you know, Amazon Prime, I would imagine is international. I can't, don't quote me on that one. Just never tried. But I do understand the desire to try to grow your business. And I think these games in the UK, in Germany, have set up pretty well because they could kick them off here at 9.30 a.m. Eastern, but they were prime time for those guys. So when they were playing the game, it was like playing a 5 o'clock
Starting point is 00:05:37 or depending on where you were in the country, a night game on Thursday, Sunday, or Monday for the players. Like they had the rhythm to the day on game day of playing a later game non-morning or afternoon, but the primetime window if you're playing like Sunday night football. I think the problem with Australia, which, let me say this, it is a great sports place. They are a very, very passionate group of people when it comes to athletics. I mean, I'm a big golf guy. Liv has gone there for a couple years now, and it has been a raging success. It has kind of been the defining moment of the Saudis tour.
Starting point is 00:06:21 You know, obviously rugby is massive there. I mean, these are people that like a violent sport. So it makes a lot of sense. It's obviously football is different than rugby. but like these people like athletics. So I get it. To me, the issue is taking two teams who are a 45-minute flight away from each other. If you get on a plane in Sacramento to go to Los Angeles, it's like 55 minutes.
Starting point is 00:06:49 If you get on a plane in San Jose, it's like a little under 45 minutes. You can't be any closer. There probably aren't that many games where you have to hop on a flight in the National Football League or in college where you're in the air for less time than when the 49ers and the Rams play each other. And you're taking these two teams and you're taking them international, which if you were taking them to the UK, I'd be like, okay, but there's a 17-hour time difference. And the reality is in growing this business, which the NFL, and specifically Raj, is up, and I'm sure the owners are obsessed with.
Starting point is 00:07:25 I mean, they are just, they go from six to midnight when they think about some new fans. in some of these international markets. Yet they make all their money here because the television window in which they build this game around is a night game. 8.30 Eastern time, 5.30 out here on the West Coast. Here's the problem. For Kyle and Sean McVeigh,
Starting point is 00:07:48 they have to get their team ready to kick off at 10.30 a.m. Pacific time. So what the league has told you is they don't give a shit about the kickoff time for the fans in Australia. That's not a normal big event. 10.30 a.m. on a Friday morning? No sport in America does that. None.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Now, some events that go several days, maybe like a golf tournament, has golf going on on Friday, but the main event of a golf tournament is Saturday and Sunday. No different than, let's say, tennis. You obviously have a bunch of tennis matches, is early on in the tournament, and as you get down to the quarters, to the semis, to the finals,
Starting point is 00:08:33 you start putting that bad boy in a primetime window. So when the league has gone international in the UK, in Mexico, in Germany, they have tried to situate it in a great time slot for the people there attending the event and then manipulated it over here, i.e. the early morning kickoff. The problem is the time difference in Australia is so extreme. They don't have a choice. because they would never, not in a million fucking years, kick off Rams 49ers at 10.30 a.m. in the States, Roger would jump off the Walt Whitman Bridge before he even, I mean,
Starting point is 00:09:13 he would fire anyone that broach that idea to him. But to get this game on in prime time and play it, that's what they have to do. Now, I get it that Kyle and Sean coming off training camp are going to have to manipulate you know, how they do things. I'm sure they go over way early. But here's what I know. That Sean McVey and Kyle Shanahan are made men in their organizations. They are more important, like obviously the owner can't, is not going to fire himself.
Starting point is 00:09:41 But they have so much juice that they can piss off the owner and there's not much the owners can do. Their specific owner. The owner's meetings is right around the corner here in Arizona. If I were those two guys who probably have the most juice in the younger crew, I would cause a huge stink over this. Now, I'm sure they've known about this. Maybe it just kind of came to our attention when they've really done the math and the time zone difference.
Starting point is 00:10:07 But these are two of the best teams in the league. These are two of the most important coaches in the league. These are two of the biggest brands in the league nationally. I would be like, fuck you. This is insane. What are we doing? We have to play week one a massive, massive divisional game. I mean, these games can be,
Starting point is 00:10:27 the determining factor of who gets the one seed and who gets the five seed when the dust settles in early January. And we're kicking off in Australia at 10.30 a.m. Eastern. That means our players have to get to the field at 745 when the buses arrive. What are we doing here? This is a big noon kickoff, Illinois versus USC. I would be, if I were those two guys, beyond furious. And I'm sure they have been because they've known about this with the math much longer than it kind of came to all of our attention when we really looked at it today. But that's absurd. And I'm not, I've come around, like, I understand it. I get you're just creating new revenue streams.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I'm all for that. We try to do that here. We all got bills to pay, expenses grow, inflation. Like, I'm not shitting on them for having these new ideas. Right? Like, expansion in the NBA, you're like, listen, the majority of your league stinks. is unwatchable. You're going to expand. It's like, yeah, we're going to charge us $7 billion a team.
Starting point is 00:11:30 That's $14 billion that we split up 30 ways. It's like, yeah, I'd build 4-2 if I was on their side. You know, I'm not one of these radical media members who just despise all this shit. Like, I understand it. I get it. But to me, to put this product and these two teams in that spot feels really, really unfair and feels kind of ridiculous. Now, I know people that, a lot of you guys, that DM me, that are Australian, you know, either, you know, people that have moved from the states or people that just like football down there and you're excited for it and I get it.
Starting point is 00:12:06 But are you as excited knowing that, like, you got to take the day off work? Like, you go to the stadium at 10.30 a.m.? What other events in the sporting world have that take place? I just, I really don't get it. So I think it's ridiculous. and it'll be interesting to see if Kyle and Sean kind of throw up a red flag here in a couple days. And obviously nothing's going to change.
Starting point is 00:12:32 This game's going down no matter what. But kind of do cause a stink. Because I know if I were those two guys and have the juice, I would 100% cause a stink. I would go a little Belichick. Let's piss some people off. Let's ruffle some feathers. Quick college take.
Starting point is 00:12:50 And we talked about this. I don't even know when over the course of the last week or so, is it feels like people are just copy and pasting the way we talk about college sports in the NIL era from the pre-NIL era. It's like, guys, what happened in, I think about this in the business I work in, I can't even relate to the 2015 me, a guy that was working on radio. and that's a decade ago. And the things that have dramatically changed in my industry and hell, what I'm doing now.
Starting point is 00:13:31 I could have moved anywhere in the world and done my show and been every bit of successful. It did not matter. That wasn't even possible that long ago. I mean, seriously, I think about this from the fact that over the course of the last 24 hours, I ordered a baby seat for the stroller so we can go on. walks and he looks out. I ordered gas drops so it kind of breaks down the milk in his stomach. Any parents know that, you know, you get burpee and gassy and these things help. And I ordered air condition AC filters for my house because I realized I hadn't changed him in a while. And as the
Starting point is 00:14:11 heat's coming in, you don't want old filters and, you know, dirty air. By the press of a button, 10 years ago, I would have had to get in my car and probably go to three separate places. Ace Hardware, whatever the baby store that has this stuff, and Safeway to pick up the three items. It would have been a pain. Now, I literally just go to an app called Amazon and order fucking everything I can. Always. Need new toothpaste? Press of a button.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Thank you, Jeff Bezos. If I would have told you that 10 plus years ago, you'd be like, what? That's not possible. No, that's what we do. Amazon, you mean the bookstore? No, this is. actually, they just deliver everything.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Literally, anything you need. Hell, I got new outdoor furniture for the summer. I needed things because we've had crappy outdoor furniture
Starting point is 00:15:02 before. We didn't have any covers. And anyone that knows, if you live in a sunny, warm place, the sun destroys outdoor furniture. Before, we had cheap furniture, it didn't necessarily matter,
Starting point is 00:15:12 but it brutalized them. This time around, got a little bit nicer furniture. It's like we need to have, especially if we leave for a couple weeks in the summer, we're just, we're not using it. Covers.
Starting point is 00:15:22 What did I do? Went to Amazon, pressed a button, delivered. They all fit. That's how much life has changed where we live in 2026. You can bitch and moan about it. I enjoy it. Makes life a lot more simple. And the one thing about college sports is before it was like, history really mattered. This is where so-and-so played. This is where so-and-so coached. This is, this program has won this many titles. This program has this practice facility and these cool things in the locker room. big their weight room is. In 2006, none of that shit, I repeat, none of that shit matters. How much
Starting point is 00:16:01 will you pay me? The NIL budget or the budget to pay the players, whatever that, revenue, I don't even know, it's kind of ever fluid, is the number one thing that matters. If Kurt Signetti had just left Indiana a couple months ago to be the head coach of the Raiders, Indiana was the losingest program in the history of the sport two years ago before Signetti got there.
Starting point is 00:16:26 It would have been a job that would have been looked at like, that's a terrible job. Do not touch that. If Signetti had just left, they would have had the pick of sweet coaches. They would have easily got Matt Campbell, who went to Penn State and historically Penn State, one of the top destinations.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Obviously, James Franklin was a big get, Bill O'Brien was a big get. Now Matt Campbell was a big get. Indiana could have got Matt Campbell, no problem. You know why? They have a big budget to pay the players and they pay their coach a lot of money. And obviously their assistance.
Starting point is 00:16:56 That's all that matters now. So when I see that North Carolina fires Hubert Davis, all I see is like, this is a destination job. The history. Michael Jeffrey Jordan played there. Guys, I'm 41 years old. I was born in 1984. That's the year Michael Jordan got drafted in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:17:18 you think Michael Jordan playing at North Carolina impacts any of these top basketball players? What about the history? All the championships, once Roy came there, he rattled off multiple championships. None of these players care at all. A.J. Dubanza went to BYU, not because he cares about John Smith or because he loves the mountains, because they paid him $7 million. North Carolina in basketball, just like Ohio State under Ryan Day, has not been dominating because they're a historic program, because they were great with Tressel, because they were great back in the day with Woody Hayes against Bo Schembeckler. None of that matters. It's because they have one of, if not the highest budgets to pay the players and pay the coaches in the
Starting point is 00:18:12 country. In football, unlike basketball, your coordinators really much. matter. So part of Indiana's success is he's got two sweet coordinators, and now he's paying them both millions of dollars. Ryan Day has literally has two NFL coordinators. Matt Patricia, who makes like $4 million, and Arthur Smith, who now makes like $2 million, he's paying his coordinators $6 million total. North Carolina plans on paying a basketball coach, like $6 or $7 million, which is a lot in basketball. But when I see like, will they get the Michigan coach, will they get the owner coach, well yeah, if they're willing to say, we will pay whatever it takes for NIL to buy players.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Because none of it matters on the logo on your shoe, the Carolina Blue, all the championships you've won back in the day, that Vince Carter and Rashid Wallace, no one cares. Literally nobody. It's the reason Bill Self has been getting Darren Peterson, they paid for it. The reason Duke's landing all these guys, obviously Boozer went there, because they paid for it. If you're willing to pay for it, you know, I just got a question the other day about Davo Sweeney going on the rant about losing a player. Do you think that guy 20 years ago, who'd you rather play for? Davos Sweeney or this guy Pete Golding who's coached two games in his
Starting point is 00:19:35 career. Davos Sweeney's won multiple national championships. I get the programs down a little bit, but he didn't leave Clemson because he didn't like Davo because he didn't like the program. Ole Miss literally recruited him when he was on campus and said, what are you making? He said, we'll pay you Y. That's why he left. The game's very simple, which honestly I kind of appreciate. It's not as emotional. It's not about like, I'm going to USC.
Starting point is 00:19:58 USC just had the number one recruiting class in the country. Reggie Bush, Matt Leinert, and the Pete Carroll era was completely irrelevant for the execution of that. It was simply because in the state of California, you can give high school kids money before they show up on campus, which a lot of other states do not allow. So USC, who has been very underwhelming since Lincoln Riley got there, got the number one recruiting class in the country because they bought them. Honestly, college sports now, watch blue chips. All that was illegal, now it's all legal.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So when I see the conversation around will so-and-so go, and personally, I have a theory, In college basketball, if you can be like a one, two or three seed, you know, be a top 10 consistent team in the country at a football school, that is a better job than living in the fishbowl of Kansas, Kentucky, North Carolina. It's like, would Dusty May leave Michigan? Well, he's been a number one seed. This is a program that's been to multiple national championships over the course of the last decade. They clearly have good NIL.
Starting point is 00:21:11 But at the end of the day, like, he doesn't take as much shit as the football coach. Even when the football coach is not some dude that's banging everything walking around the street, which it still boggles my mind when I've seen some of these clips of Sharon Moore in the courthouse. And his wife is there. Now, again, I never judge anyone on what they're doing when the doors are closed behind their home, you know, inside their home. We all do different stuff. I just know the relationship that I'm in.
Starting point is 00:21:41 my current wife and my current child, they would not be supporting me in the courthouse if that was my situation. And I would imagine many people listening can relate to that as well. I would not get some loyal ride or die in the situation where I was bending over my assistant in my office. But that's a conversation for a different day.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But Alabama, Michigan, these coaches that are having success at football schools that to me is a great gig. Get to fly under the radar a little bit. Get to make a ton of money. And obviously they give you leftover NIL, which is still great for the basketball team. Now, one thing I saw too is like,
Starting point is 00:22:24 could they steal Arizona's basketball coach? Well, as someone tweeted at me, Arizona this year is like a top three or four roster in terms of payments. They are paying for the players. He's not just coaching these guys out of thin air. He's not rolling out the ball and saying, Middlecough, you go run the point guard for my team.
Starting point is 00:22:44 They're paying premiums for these guys. So I just think that whenever I see these people talk about these jobs, Alabama is no longer the same Alabama under DeBoer as it was under Sabin. Sabin obviously is one of the greatest coaches in the history of sports. But he had a big advantage. Once he got the momentum, that's where people wanted to play. a little like Cali Perry at Kentucky or Coach K at Duke. The reason John Shire's having success at Duke, they have the number one NIL in the ACC.
Starting point is 00:23:17 Not because Coach K 25 years ago was running some cool program. None of that matters. So like Indiana is now one of the best jobs in the country. Why? Because they spend money on the talent. If that is not the number one thing you say about a job, and listen, maybe North Carolina gets the pick of the litter. but the reason it will is because that coach will go,
Starting point is 00:23:42 what's my budget to pay the players? And they will either say, it's this or it's unlimited. Because if they say it's unlimited, then everyone will run right there. So I just think these conversations around college sports feels a little archaic,
Starting point is 00:23:56 it feels outdated. It's like, guys, do you know how much has changed in the last couple years? You know, Netflix wants to deliver DVDs to your house. You know, now I'm doing a podcast on it. Things change and they change really, really fast,
Starting point is 00:24:13 and it's usually because of money. And that's exactly what happened to college sports. It changed dramatically, basically overnight. And we haven't looked back since. And these jobs aren't really what they once were. Though they can sustain it, Ohio State in football, Duke in basketball, as long as they're willing to pay whatever it takes. if they're not, it doesn't matter about what they did years in the past.
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Starting point is 00:26:44 We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts. We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special.
Starting point is 00:26:58 So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down?
Starting point is 00:27:17 Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
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Starting point is 00:29:08 I was actually telling my mother-in-law this when she's a stud. We fly her out and she comes, helps the baby. It's incredible. I mean, to have a babysitter for a couple days and get a good night's sleep, I mean, she could have charged me 100 grand. I would have cut her a check, you know. The sanity and the mental clarity it brings to my household is priceless. It truly is.
Starting point is 00:29:36 So found out I got invited to play in a member guest at a golf tournament. I said, hey, would you be willing to be willing to? to come back. I'd love to. I said, boom. But you tell me when. I'll order your flight yesterday. But I was telling her when I picked her up from the airport a couple days ago, we were talking about something. And I said, I can only speak for guys. But I think a lot of us get to a point. And it happens in our 20s. And it could be early 20s, mid-20s, or late 20s,
Starting point is 00:30:06 where if we're going down a path or doing something we don't want to do, we make a pivot. We make a change. And we go, this is not who I want to be. This is not what I want to do. This is not what I want to be about. And you go in a different direction. And you do it dramatically.
Starting point is 00:30:25 And I said, the older you get, I think it becomes much more difficult. It doesn't mean it's not possible. But as you get in your 30s, your 40s, I'm not saying you don't mentally grow and you don't mature as a human being. But you don't change that much or, It's much more difficult to make dramatic life changes. I truly believe that.
Starting point is 00:30:47 And I think for a lot of young men, I was just watching the Red Hot Chili Peppers documentary, which is really, really good. It's crazy. I mean, the amount of bands in probably the 70s and 80s and even early 90s, I mean, people that are still alive today that became like historic musicians,
Starting point is 00:31:03 that probably easily could have died. And one of the members of the, I'm not going to give it away. It's just, if you like the Red Hot Chili Peppers are just kind of that version, you know, genre of music. I'd check out the documentary. Very organic how they came about, but life's about making decisions. And those decisions could be as simple as, like, do you stay up super late? Or you're a guy that kind of goes to bed early and get your rest, so you're ready to roll every
Starting point is 00:31:26 day? You know, are you complaining that you're kind of fat? Well, what are you put in your body? Right. Being disciplined on what you eat, what time you go to bed, how you treat your body. I mean, are you a binge drinker or are you not? And these are just personal health questions to then you're single guy who you're running around with. What type of women? What time of girls? And the more famous you are, the more money you have. Like, these are decisions that become much more important
Starting point is 00:31:52 because you're going to be around situations that the average guy's not. And these situations can go well and they also can go really wrong. And also like, I always thought about this because my dad said, the one crazy thing is I can do a lot to like raise you and teach you the right things to do and how to live and how to operate, but I don't really get to choose your friends. Like, that's kind of on you, on who you hang out with, from when you're a young kid to to when you go to college throughout life. You know, who do you gravitate toward two? And listen, we've all probably ran around with people that you're like, yeah, that probably
Starting point is 00:32:28 wasn't the best idea. That could have gone really bad. And for some people in that situation that maybe they would have changed, it goes bad. And they get into a situation that they they not only regret that might change their life. And for whatever reason, Pooka Nakula's decision making over the course of the last six to eight months feels really shitty. And let's be, I mean, really kind of, you know, the Mormon wife situation that happened to the Bachelorette. It feels like a cage cat got out of Provo and just doesn't know what to do with himself and became really famous and it's not handling it well. Now, I'm not pointing fingers and saying anyone did anything. I just know this.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Like one headline is like listen you had nothing to do with it a great guy like there's been enough smoke now it's like bro figure your shit out and we talked about this the other day It doesn't matter what the ramp say It doesn't matter what Les Need and Sean McVeigh and Sean I think talks at the owner's meetings here in a couple days The words that come out of his mouth mean nothing to me We'll judge on the actions because JSN just got a historic contract are they copy and pasting that or are they going absolutely no chance we're paying him that right now. We do not trust him. And until they pay him, that's the only thing I have to go off of. But it does feel like Puka Nakua, who is one of the more fun players I remember watching in my life. He is just a badass on the field. But as of right now, he's not someone that you could
Starting point is 00:33:57 trust giving $120 million guaranteed to. And I think the Rams, every day that goes by, showing you they agree. I believe, and I'm not trying to be like Stephen A. Smith here, but he's kind of at a fork in the road. It's like time to either draw a line in the sand and be like, I'm getting away from all these fucking people who are putting me in bad situations and then through them I'm putting myself in bad situations. Or I'm just going to be a sloppy. And we see a lot of NFL guys with a lot of talent, get down a rut,
Starting point is 00:34:28 and never been able to get out. And you look back what could have been. And I do feel like he's kind of in a fork in the road right now. And he clearly has a bump. bunch of high-level guys around them. I mean, Devante, from just a work ethic standpoint, married man, kids, Stafford family. It's like you got guys in your own meeting rooms, in your own side of the bowl, that are just high-level cats, mature dudes. And I get it.
Starting point is 00:34:56 You're young. You are, you know, one of the toast of the, of not the town, because I don't think L.A. necessarily gives a shit. But of the league, you got a lot, you know. Heavy is the head that wears a crown, right? So when things are going really well, more people are paying attention. And there's a lot of pressure on you to do the right things.
Starting point is 00:35:23 And it's easy for me to say. Like, I never got, I mean, I probably got lucky a lot when I was younger. But by the time I got to college, like drugs didn't interest me. I found out pretty quick. Like, I'm not a club late night guy. I'm not saying I don't. don't like to booze a little bit, but I'm not, you're not going to find me up. I get too tired at like two in the morning, you know, so I, and listen, there were probably some women in my single days. It's like,
Starting point is 00:35:48 yeah, that could have gone wrong. That could have gone bad. I think a lot of people could say, like, I'm glad that we just got to got through that period of my life. But I also didn't have $120 million contract waiting for me in my mid-20s. And it does feel like he's got an opportunity to really fuck this thing up. So I, I just, know that these headlines and going to deny them. It's like, how many headlines are we going to get now? Because I look around, like, I don't see any headlines with Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson or Tvante Adams. It's like, it's one thing. Listen, it doesn't bother me tweeting about the refs. But when TMZ is tweeting about you, it's drawing the lines, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:29 line in the sand time. It's, okay, it's time to look in the mirror, have a little introspection and be like, what do we need to change? How do I need to pivot? How do I need to pivot? it because if you don't, this all could get away from me really fast. A couple quick quarterback things. There was video of Patrick Mahomes. I had the video on mute because the baby was sleeping earlier today. But he was throwing. Now, you know, three months out of ACL surgery, I know when I was at the combine,
Starting point is 00:36:58 I was told by very reliable sources, they feel very confident about the pace in which he's making. So I think it's fair to say as we sit. here on March 26th, like, I would be prepared for Patrick Mahomes to play week one. I don't even think it's insane. I wouldn't go there yet. We've got a long way to go. That like by the start of training camp, he's ready to go. Even if he was, they would probably ease him in. I'm pretty sure even if he does some limited stuff during OTAs, they're going to work with Justin Fields a ton and let Patrick Mahomes ease into this. But this gets back to
Starting point is 00:37:32 they're going to get a motivated guy. They're going to get a guy that, let's face it, did not have a good season and they're going to have reinforcements. They have a great opportunity. Pick 9, pick 29, other picks in the draft to really change this thing around. And they clearly know it. He clearly knows it. And I'm telling you, I think the Chiefs, not saying they're going to win the Super Bowl, but they're going to have a chip on their shoulder.
Starting point is 00:38:02 They're going to be coming. They're going to be bringing it. The other thing is Ty Simpson is not a first round pick for me I didn't see it when I watched them I used this comp of like I think there's some similarities with Purdy Purdy was a seventh round pick
Starting point is 00:38:18 those type players for me are guys that are drafted after pick 100 now I get it with quarterback inflation Orlovsky's getting shit on his connection with CAA who also represents Ty Simpson which I think we really benefit from like in 2026 we kind of know what's going on
Starting point is 00:38:36 and if we don't know what's going on, we eventually find out what's going on really quick. I've always said this about my parents. They grew up in an era that, you know, after World War II and in just some other international conflicts, when they grew up, like, in junior high and elementary school, they would do bomb drills where they hit under the desk. It's like, did no one raise their hand and be like,
Starting point is 00:39:00 this makes no sense? Like, what are we doing here? But no one didn't. and they just hopped under the desk. It's not really the times we live in. Like, we kind of have a bunch of information. You could argue too much. But I do think it's fair to say.
Starting point is 00:39:15 Like, when you're represented by the same people and Orlovsky's like, well, I'd pay them. Yeah, it's like, we all know. My guy, Ethan Strauss been writing about this for Woege. Woz used to destroy coaches who weren't CAA. And then guys that were, he would protect. Kind of the game. Kind of the world. They help place you in these spots.
Starting point is 00:39:32 They help make you a lot of money and negotiate. whoever you're in business with, you are going to have, you're going to be more cognizant of the relationship. Let me just say, especially people that make you money. Right. So listen, I'm very protective of the relationship I have with Colin and the operation that has changed my life. Professionally, financially, the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:39:58 That's usually the way it go for anyone with a fucking brain. That being said, I've taken. texted a bunch of different executives and scouts, and some people are in agreement with me. No way. I texted buddy today, who's a future GM lock in the next three or four years, maybe even less, was like, I think he's a top, I think he's a top 32 pick. I think he's a first round pick. He agreed with Dan. Maybe not necessarily he was the best quarterback in the draft, but he thinks for sure he's a first round pick. That's kind of draft talk. That's kind of what these draft meetings are. You get into a meeting, there is going to be someone in that room,
Starting point is 00:40:39 potentially for guys like Jeremiah Love, you would look like the village idiot if you raised your hand. You're like, I don't think this guy's that good. You know, I think this guy thinks I hate him, which I don't really personally have any feelings toward him, but Ryan Grickson once had a second round grade on Vaughn Miller. It's like, yeah, I'd keep that one to yourself.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I wouldn't say anything about that in the room. It's like this guy's not only a top five pick, it's pretty clear what he does is going to translate to the league. 15 years later, a guy's going to the Hall of Fame. But most players, you can argue till you're blue in the face. Because most guys are not just like, this guy's a future Hall of Famer. That's not really how it works in the draft. So when you look at a guy like Mackay Lemon or Omar Cooper from Indiana or
Starting point is 00:41:33 Bain from Miami or whoever in this draft, you could argue like, yeah, I don't know, I'm not comfortable with this pick. And there are going to be guys in every single draft room arguing both sides. So there are going to be people
Starting point is 00:41:47 that don't like Fernando Mendoz. They're going to be people that don't like Ty Simpson. I think the problem for Dan is his argument goes about Fernando. It's like the biggest games are the most important games. And when he played Ohio State,
Starting point is 00:42:03 and on the first play of the game, he got hit like you would get hit in the NFL from Miles Garrett or Micah Parsons, and it looked like he broke ribs, got a concussion, and it was like his season is over, and two plays later he shook it off and came back in the game. That's the NFL. That is what the NFL is.
Starting point is 00:42:24 So when I see, Ty Simpson doesn't have a run game. A lot of bad teams in the NFL don't have a run game. How are you going to figure it out? That's part of playing football. that's part of playing in the NFL. It's like, well, they were down seven points going into the fourth quarter. Welcome to Sundays. So what he showed in the stretch of games,
Starting point is 00:42:44 which were the most important games, were the games everyone was watching and against the best competition outweigh some of the bad games or the bad moments that he had. The other thing is how you react to bad plays, which are inevitable in the NFL. Peyton Manning throw a pick six in the Super Bowl. Tom Brady has thrown pick sixes in playoff games,
Starting point is 00:43:09 and I'm pretty sure the Super Bowl as well. Part of the deal comes with the territory. How do you react? What am I supposed to judge a guy throwing three or four touchdowns beating the shit out of you? That's not normal in the NFL. The Chiefs a couple years ago went to the Super Bowl, won it.
Starting point is 00:43:25 They went 15 and 2. Most of their games were one-score game in the fourth quarter. That's Sunday football. So, like, my issue isn't like, I have no problem with people having different opinions. We need more people with different opinions that are like, yeah, it's just the way it goes. If everyone in the room is thinking the same way, you're probably in this wrong room, and you're probably going to get to a bad decision. Right?
Starting point is 00:43:49 So I have no problem with him thinking that, though I disagree. And I'm on McAfee side about that stretch of games that is like, I know what I watched, and I know the teams and the 10. in which he was playing. Like, that was fucking impressive. Now, that's also being said of, like, Fernando Mendoza's not some, like, all-time prospect. But in my mind, in my opinion,
Starting point is 00:44:12 he's a much better prospect than Ty Simpson. But there'll be people in the league that disagree with you. Really quick, this segment is change of scenery, sponsored by my friends at Toyota. Now, here's the thing. Joe Flacco have the opportunity for an incredible change of scenery. Now, it takes two to tango.
Starting point is 00:44:37 If the Steelers, who don't really have quarterbacks right now, and who knows, Aaron Rogers, needed a backup plan. And last year, I know Tomlin's not there, but Tomlin thought he was like Joe Montana meets John Elway. He could have done what probably rarely happens. A guy plays for every team in a division. He's obviously, he just resigned with the Bengals,
Starting point is 00:45:00 where he signed last year before he was traded. after he was traded from the Browns. That would have been really cool to see a guy play start his career for the Ravens, end up playing for the Browns, traded to the Bengals, and then end his career
Starting point is 00:45:15 playing for the Pittsburgh Sears. I think Joe Flacco, who I thought five or six years ago wasn't just shot. This guy's out of the league. He's going to be coaching high school football, hanging out with this family.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Somehow, he has done. dust it off whatever cobwebs were on those cleats and that shoulder and that elbow. And he's actually been a pretty functional backup. And the Bengals sign him back and he's pissed off. He's saying it's dumb that most people in the league don't think he can start. It's like Joe, you're 41, you can't move. You can just basically throw the deep ball and check it down.
Starting point is 00:45:52 But I appreciate his chip on his shoulder still at this day and age with the amount of money he's made. and why is he doing this? Like, what is the point of this? I'm not quite sure, but I'm really, really mad because I think it would have been really cool to see him complete the four corners and just have the NFC or the AFC North
Starting point is 00:46:20 the completion of playing for every team. And obviously ending his career on the rival to the team that kind of made his career, the Ravens, but we didn't get it. now Joe Flacco is back on the Bengals, which he didn't really start on because last year he got traded in the middle of the season from a divisional foe. Just bizarre situation. So Toyota reminds us that when people are of the destination, it's not where you're headed, but who you're headed there with. Learn more at Toyota.com and find a vehicle that fits your people.
Starting point is 00:47:04 Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast. Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to our... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas brothers.
Starting point is 00:47:39 This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late night comedy guy. Not quite. humor me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?
Starting point is 00:48:23 We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost. its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athletes themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight
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Starting point is 00:49:22 and the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Okay, before we do a couple of middle cop mailback questions, I do want to pick my final four. Hard Rock bet. I told you guys, the two teams I hammered, I did three. I did Kansas and St. John's because I knew they were going to play each other, and whoever won that game was going to have a lot of momentum.
Starting point is 00:49:50 And Petino didn't just win that game. It feels that walkoff. He calls the dude Big Ball's Bell. He's won national championships before. I'm just, listen, it's going to be very difficult, but I'm taking the Johnny's to make the final four. I also got to stick with my guy, John Calapari, who I think is tailor-made for the NIL era. tailor-made for the NILA. And the reason Arkansas
Starting point is 00:50:15 has a chance to not only make the final four this year, but be a dominant team moving forward is not because Nolan Richardson and Corlis Williamson in the 90s. It's because Tyson chicken. And the NIL behind that program is big time. So I'm going to
Starting point is 00:50:32 Johnny's. I'm going Petino. I'm going John Calpari. After Nebraska, his son hits the game winning layup. Then the dude misses the half-court shot, which was in the basket. I feel like that same bounce 10 times, it goes in like eight. Might just be a team of destiny. They had never won an NCAA tournament game until this year. Now they're in the final four. You look at the bracket, like I don't think it's impossible.
Starting point is 00:51:04 This one's a little bit more of my heart than what I would bet on, but I'm taking the bracket to make the final four. And last but not least, Michigan. Feels like they've been in the final four a lot over the course the last 15 years. They're just good. I'm going Arkansas, the Johnny's, Nebraska, and Michigan. Let's do a little Middlecough mailbag. At John Middlecough, at John Middlecough, we'll just wind it with a couple questions. We'll start with Alexander. If you were due podcast on something beside sports, what would it be? Politics, travel, life stories, etc. Well, my wife gets very angry at me.
Starting point is 00:51:45 I mean, she could, I feel like, could travel nonstop. Not a big travel guy. Not that I don't like traveling. Like, I've been other places and when I'm there, I enjoy it. Chicago last year with Colin was cool. Got married to Nashville. Love that place. I love it when I'm there.
Starting point is 00:52:01 I just, I'm not one of those guys who's, as my wife says, my cup gets full when I know I got a trip on the books. That's not necessarily me. again, been to Europe 20 plus years ago was awesome. If you told me I never went again, I like Italy and Lake Cuomo looks as cool as anything online. If you tell me I never go there, I'm not going to lose much sleep. So I probably wouldn't be the guy for the travel podcast. As someone who's trying to change my diet dramatically,
Starting point is 00:52:32 I kind of am a fat ass at heart, so I would say I could do a pretty good food podcast because I do love to eat. I'm not necessarily a foodie because I kind of will eat anything but I do think that would kind of work like all sorts of genres nice stuff, crappy stuff,
Starting point is 00:52:47 hole in the wall, you name it. But I gotta get better at what I put in my body. Politics, you just get too angry when you talk about it. I know I do, but people do. I also think none of us have any impact on anything.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Like one thing I've learned besides being able to move you or your family to an area that kind of fits with what you want out of life. Like, we don't really have that much juice. So I just try to focus on my business and my family and I guess friends and nothing else really matters. When I see people online getting so caught up, it's like, bro, you have no influence over any of this shit. How are you, is this all fake?
Starting point is 00:53:27 Because there's no way you could actually be this mad. Like, I don't think this is, you're actually acting like this offline, which I kind of believe none of them really are. especially like the rich, you know, celebrity, powerful people. I don't think they actually care once they click off. They just go lead their life. So I don't know. I mean, I do a football podcast, do a golf podcast. I try to interweave my takes in those.
Starting point is 00:53:52 So I haven't really never crossed my mind to do, you know, call her daddy. Call her daddy pretty big pivot. I try to describe it to a buddy the other day. I'm like, yeah, she got famous off talking about blow jobs. like he's like what i'm like no i'm dead serious like the gluck luck luck the blow job is not what just put her on the map i mean it made her a rocket ship i i started listening i'm like this just because i was fascinating it's like this podcast went from zero to like one of those popular things in america
Starting point is 00:54:22 and now it's like uh interview in oprah you know it's like it's a hard pivot but uh listen got to do what you got to do for that cash uh uh with how Young Green Bay Packers, okay, changes the back to football. With how young Green Bay Packers are, is that actually an advantage in today's NFL with cap flexibility, or does youth still show up as a weakness in big-time playoff moments
Starting point is 00:54:48 with Jordan Love and his surrounding cast? I think youth could be a little overrated. You know, I mean, the Chiefs got Carlopters and Trent McDuffie, and they started going to Super Bowls and they got ready to Tyree Kill. So, to me, youth can get brought up to speed immediately when you have established people on the team.
Starting point is 00:55:06 when you have established winning veterans, they can bring you along really quick. It's like you can go and do a job and not really know what you're doing, but if you have a good mentor or people you're working with to kind of show you the ropes, you can turn the corner quick.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Now, if you go to a place, like, you get drafted by the Jets and no one knows what they're doing, like it can be a problem. And that's the reason they don't win many games. But I think, like, when you look at a lot of good teams, nature of the beast,
Starting point is 00:55:32 like, you're just going to have some young players. And the other thing with young players, players, like, they get better. You know, old players can get worse. Do you think John Schneider could get an equity position from the sale of the Seahawks? That's a good question. I mean, I'm sure he'd want it. I just, I would doubt that would happen.
Starting point is 00:56:01 I don't know if there are NFL rules, but if I was him, I'd be like, listen, you can pay me, whatever my salary is, cut that thing in half and give me, if I stay for the next 10 years, every year is a tiny, tiny percentage, and maybe it adds up to whatever, a percent or two. I mean, do the math. So I'm sure he would tell his agent, but I don't think that's the way it works. Should they give both those two guys a little dabble? Again, I don't know the rules on that.
Starting point is 00:56:34 typically rich people aren't just big on just handed out equity though especially with it's one thing to get equity in a startup worth nothing it's another thing to give out equity in something that sells for 10 billion who's gonna buy it right i mean that's i think a lot of people think seattle bezos does he want to own a football team i don't know but again like 10 billion to him probably isn't that much so maybe it's like yeah i'll just buy a football team whatever i'm in my take would be if you're super rich.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Buying football team might be a pain in the ass. Because if things go bad, everyone's shitting on you. And then just human nature, you would try, like if something was going bad, you would have to try to respond, right? So if like, okay, we got to fire this guy, we're going to do that, and it can just keep going bad. And then everyone just starts saying, you're a village idiot. You're like, well, I just pay $10 billion in cash for this.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I must not be that stupid. Create this thing called Amazon that you guys are all using. but all of a sudden if Seattle went the wrong way, everyone would be all over his ass. You know, Jimmy Haslam was just a rich guy, printing cash until he bought the Browns. Now everyone thinks he's the worst owner ever. David Tepper was just one of the greatest stock traders of all time until he heaves that vodka soda at that chick at the Jags game, and then everyone's been talking shit ever since.
Starting point is 00:57:59 So I don't know. I might just stay rich. Just leave me alone. If I want to watch football, just watch it on my couch. Question for the bag. At what point do bad teams really start mailing it in? For example, when a team starts 1 in 5 or 0 and 6 next year, do they start making changes?
Starting point is 00:58:19 Quarterback, D-line. It's probably pretty rare. Like the Chiefs. They didn't view themselves a 6th win team in training camp. Then things hit the skits. I think like when the Jets, the dolphins, the Cardinals, the Browns, there are going to be some of these teams in training camp. that aren't going to go, okay, we're going to be really good.
Starting point is 00:58:42 So you have an idea, I think you start talking about it in training camp. As the season goes, let's try to work these guys in. And then obviously if you start really like 0 and 7, that happens. But the thing in the NFL, you can be 6 and 2, and if you ain't getting it done, you will get benched. This is a league that win or lose, you have to play well. because if you don't, you will get replaced. Now, quarterback, a little more sensitive. Let's face, they're just treated differently.
Starting point is 00:59:18 But all these other positions, you cannot get smoked every week just because the team's good, and you're a linebacker missing tackles, you're a safety blowing coverages, you're a guard getting smoked, you will get replaced. I think that's what makes the NFL so relatable to society. In basketball, you're just kind of a maid man.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Like, I'm making $40 million a year. What are you going to do to me? And the answer is nothing really. I mean, you probably just keep playing. Right? In football, it's like, oh, I paid you a lot of money. You just not getting it done. I might just cut you.
Starting point is 00:59:48 But winning teams cut players. So I think you say losing teams, I think every team, the first thing coaches do, right? Let's just say a home game. Obviously, if you're flying home, some of them watch the tape. Some of them might just have a beer and relax. But definitely Sunday or Monday morning, right? So you play Sunday, let's say you have a home game at noon.
Starting point is 01:00:13 You know, you win or you lose, you shower whatever after the game as a player, as a coach, go home with your family, go to dinner. You're back in the office pretty early. Some coaches are nuts. They're there like 435. Some coaches maybe work their way in at 6, 7, get a workout. You typically have some sort of staff meeting before lunch to go over the grades of the tape. Because probably at like eight or nine, you watch the tape, you've watched it individually,
Starting point is 01:00:43 and then you watch it like offense defense, and maybe the head coach, if he's an offensive defensive guy, is in there with you. And you're going through it and grading it and evaluating everybody. So if you're the offense, the OC probably has, or the head coach has the clicker, the wide receiver coach, the Oline coach, the tight end coach, the running back coach, quarterback coach, they're all in that room. You know, with their already grade, it's kind of going over it. So over the course of a month, like in September, you could be four and oh.
Starting point is 01:01:13 But like, hey, man, our fucking right tackle is not getting it done. Do we need to trade for one? Do we need to claim a guy? Do we need to start competing the backup in practice? So that's the thing with football. I think most jobs, I mean, unless you're like Justin Jefferson could have a bad month. You know what I mean? The majority of players, though, are getting evaluated very, very thoroughly every single week.
Starting point is 01:01:37 win-luser draw. And that's what I think makes the NFL so intense. It's why when you see these players, these former players, talk about the anxiety every week, all these team meetings on Wednesday, because it's just an intense environment. It doesn't matter if you're 10-0 or 2-8. You've got to fucking have your head on a swivel.
Starting point is 01:01:56 No good team has a complacent environment. And then bad teams, even if it has a bad environment, everyone's on edge because you know it any more. moment you get cut, fired, traded, whatever. So good teams, everyone's kind of like, hey, we got to, this isn't good enough. We got to keep, people are coming for us. Bad teams, everyone thinks like this could be my last day. It's just football. Listening to today's podcast, I found it funny that one of the ads is for a pet ER. I love that Fugazi rant. Some people hit me up on rant on, on some of the ads.
Starting point is 01:02:33 The automated ads, they're called programmatic ads. are typically, which that is funny, are sometimes locally driven. Someone's like, Middle Coff, you got this political ad. Well, if you live in a certain area, you know, IHeart, we just buy these ad platforms. Like, the guy that lives in Florida is going to get a different ad than the dude that lives in Minnesota or in Seattle. So some of the, now some of them are national, right, like McDonald's or something. but sometimes some of these ads are locally driven, which is the power of what we do.
Starting point is 01:03:12 It's based on where you are. Why radio's fucked. Also, a listener gave you an idea for the fans of the show. It's stupid, but you could call your fans the Eagles since they're all obsessed with three and out. I don't think Howie would like that joke, but that's a pretty good one. Yeah, we just got to,
Starting point is 01:03:32 When you know it, it's like if I ever hear it and I go, that's it. I've just never heard one. It's like, that's it. Who knows? Like, knowing what I know now, would I name the show three and out? I don't know. I just, I remember needing a football name. I wanted something kind of generic.
Starting point is 01:03:52 I remember Daniel Jeremiah moved the sticks. I'm like, that is just a great name. Move the sticks. Certain names just work, right? Pardon my take. certain names just call her daddy. I mean, there's just certain names like, that was a genius name.
Starting point is 01:04:09 Three and out, would I have renamed it after I started doing it? Who knows? But they're too deep in and out of change. Question for the bag. Ravens fan. How do you think the team should approach the first round?
Starting point is 01:04:23 I still have major concerns with a pass rush. While Trey helps, unless Matabuque is healthy and Mike Green takes a major step, I struggle to see this unit not being a weakness again, considering no one had more than five sacks.
Starting point is 01:04:38 I have similar concerns with the pass catchers. Zay, as Zay and an aging Mark Andrews are their only proven guys. I see mock drafts having us take an interior offensive lineman, but that seems like a reach on a position the Ravens have had success drafting in later rounds. Well, you're in kind of the sweet spot because I don't know if there's a wide receiver worth taking there at 14.
Starting point is 01:05:06 one of the past rushers could definitely drop. I think you would have to think long and hard about that. I mean, Trey Hendrickson's coming off a major injury where he played seven games, and he's an older player. So, like, what's his, what would you say his over-under sacks is next year? If I said 10 and a half. Like, to me, if you tell me he's healthy for 17 games, like, he's getting double-digit sacks. Would I bet on him playing all these games?
Starting point is 01:05:37 I don't know if I would. So I think they're very, very invested in him. We've seen some older pass rushers recently, like kind of get banged up. So, you know, when they change teams, I think you would 100% take a guy if it's worth taking. In fairness to them, they draft pretty well. So, you know, Kyle Hamilton, Zayflowers, Ronnie Stanley, times they've had, you know, higher picks. They've nailed them. So DeCosta may be kind of a dick.
Starting point is 01:06:05 might not have been the most nice guy to me, but I respect their franchise and how they draft. So now he's got his pickback to know Max Crosby. I would say defensive line would be an area in which 100% they could go. Like McKay Lemon kind of feels like a raven a little bit. Could see that, I guess. Remember Greg Cosell did not like him. I liked him when I watched him, but
Starting point is 01:06:37 in a perfect world, I would draft receivers in the second round. I would be much more inclined to take linemen. We'll end on that. Adios. See you tomorrow. Peace. The volume. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
Starting point is 01:07:01 We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask. other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.
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Starting point is 01:08:05 I'm Timbo, and every episode we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you. you the real story behind the headline. And we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to SportsSlice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Winning on Clay is an art.
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