The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Philadelphia Eagles vs. Green Bay Packers Reaction, Weekend 6-Pack

Episode Date: September 7, 2024

John reacts to the Philadelphia Eagles' 34-29 win over the Green Bay Packers in Brazil. He breaks down Saquon Barkley's 3-touchdown performance that powered the Eagles to victory and discusses Jalen H...urts' inconsistent play, questioning what it means for the rest of the season. John also touches on Jordan Love's late-game injury scare and how, if he stays healthy, the Packers' offense can lead them to the playoffs. However, he emphasizes that the Packers' defense must improve to reach Super Bowl contender status, and the Eagles' hopes depend on Hurts reducing turnovers.Then John takes a look back to the TNF game and offers his thoughts on Lamar Jackson and the Ravens who may seem delusional in their post game comments, but explains that people and teams who have a vision may seem delusional to those who do not have the same level of confidence in what they are trying to achieve. John wraps the show with his Weekend 6 Pack of takes that include Bill Belichick's take on Chicago Bears rookie QB, Caleb Williams, what the Denver Broncos will look like with rookie QB, Bo Nix, and much more. 3:16 - Packers/Eagles Instant Reaction27:56 - Chiefs are Lamar's kryptonite34:27 - John's Weekend 6 Pack35:13 - Belichick on Caleb Williams41:16 - What will the Broncos look like with Bo Nix at QB?43:30 - Jim Harbaugh's return44:38 - Tom Brady's first game broadcasting48:35 - Fading the Dolphins51:09 -Overreacting to week 1 games Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:05 FT Ball. NFL Plus premium offer available only to new and former NFL plus subscribers. Additional NFL plus premium terms at NFL.com slash terms. What is going on, everybody, John Middlekoff, 3 and Out podcast? How are we doing? A little Saturday special because we had a fun. Friday night NFL game. The Eagles, I don't want to say squeak by, but it was pretty tight game. Jordan Love gets injured at the end, but I'm recording this right after, so hopefully he's okay,
Starting point is 00:04:50 but he also was dealing with CAF. He was all over the map. Had some good, had some really bad. Jalen had some really good, also some really, I mean, he threw a pick in the end zone and had a fumble. Wasn't his fault, but also threw another pick. But Sequin Barclay, three touchdowns, A.J. Brown, Devante, dominate. Both defenses look pretty suspect.
Starting point is 00:05:15 The Packers, for a team that had a lot of hype about a defensive coordinator, that I got to start being more like Belichick, stop buying into the hype. I'm like, I bet they're going to be better. And they look exactly the same. And they were just getting shredded. John Marriss probably not happy today. So we'll dive into that game. A couple thoughts from the Ravens after, I just ended up doing a podcast,
Starting point is 00:05:37 the Ravens after the loss, some of their comments about the Chiefs, and then we're just going to fire around the NFL. I thought, you know, it's the weekend. I might just pick up like a six-pack of beer and just drink and watch football tomorrow. So I said, let's just do a little Saturday six-pack, and I hit six things that I just want to hit on throughout the NFL, things I'm fired up for this Sunday. because we got a full slate.
Starting point is 00:06:03 And regardless of the batchups, when it's week one, all the games look pretty good because we don't know who's good or bad yet. I'm still thinking about what I just witnessed. You know, I had the Packers as a top five team. I lean the Cowboys to win the division, but I also like the Eagles as a lock playoff team. I still feel that way because they're talent,
Starting point is 00:06:22 but to be a Super Bowl contender, you have to be good on defense. You have to be good on defense. The 49ers, like that. why they went to the Super Bowl last, their defense is good. Why the Eagles and Niners play each other two years, they both had good defenses.
Starting point is 00:06:37 You cannot make serious runs, especially your past defense, you can't stop the run. So I think both these defensive coordinators are not going to sleep on this long plane ride home. But subscribe to the podcast, subscribe to the YouTube channel, a bunch of content up there as well, for sure.
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Starting point is 00:07:58 I am okay. with the expansion of the league and going international with these games. I do think when you do it and you go to Brazil, let's face it, that field tonight was a disaster. It looked like these guys were on ice on both teams. And how many plays, both these two teams, possess, one, their cash cows for the league. Green Bay is one of the biggest brands. Obviously, so is Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:08:26 They're consistent stalwarts in the playoffs where the league makes a lot of their money. It's why these rights holders pay so much because of the ratings, not just in the regular season, but how gigantic these playoff games are. And there are a lot of really important people on every NFL team, but specifically ones that are going to win double-digit games and be playing in January. And listen, as recording this immediately right after the game, I don't know, Jordan Love status based on just a guy that's been watching sports for 35 years, look like he just rolled an ankle, thank God, because whenever anyone's laying there.
Starting point is 00:09:02 And listen, that could happen on any field. He got twisted by a couple defensive linemen. But they got very lucky that no one tore in Achilles or tore an ACL slipping and sliding on that field. I mean, I can't imagine early on in that game when guys were sliding. Gudeikins and Howie are like, oh my God. And I know Blackledge said that when he went to practice yesterday, the field was in pretty good shape.
Starting point is 00:09:27 well, I don't know what happened, whether it's the do at night. I don't know if they're close to the ocean or not, not a geography major here, in terms of where the city is relative in the area. But that was bad. And that was in Rogers sitting there with the ambassador of America for Brazil. I just thought it was rough. It really was. I'm not trying to be a negative Nancy.
Starting point is 00:09:52 I'm glad football's back. And listen, some of our fields in America, historically have been hit or miss at times. I remember when the 49ers built their stadium, their field conditions were a joke. But that's what I thought tonight. And when you're going to go international, and especially to a place that you are not consistently going, and for that to happen, I mean, can you imagine if an A.J. Brown, a Sequin Berkeley, you know, one of the star players on the greenback, Josh Jacobs had slipped in the open field by themselves.
Starting point is 00:10:26 in a non-contact injury and ripped their knee up. And I was kind of holding my breath all night as guys were slipping and sliding. Even Sequin, after he scored a touchdown, ran toward the back of the end zone to kind of go around before Lane Johnson greeted him. And he almost did a little slip. And he kind of caught himself. So it was just, it was a rough night for the field. The officials these last two nights are throwing flags left and right. But I want to get to the game.
Starting point is 00:10:54 and a little good, bad, and ugly with both teams. Obviously, the best is winning. That's the whole point of the sport. So regardless how good, how bad, how ugly, if you win a game, especially when your plane flight is eight hours to the destination, you feel pretty good about yourself. Week one's a big deal.
Starting point is 00:11:12 You've had nine months, especially a team like the Eagles, they don't play any of their starters. And Jalen Hertz opened the game with just a horrendous pick down the middle of the field into like double coverage that was an easy interception. Toward the end of the game, he threw one of the worst interceptions you can possibly throw. I don't pretend to be Bill Walsh or Kyle Shanahan here,
Starting point is 00:11:35 but it's a basic rule in football when it comes to quarterback play, especially in the red zone, do not throw across your body. And he did, and it got picked. And at the time, it was 31 to 26. So if they had just kicked a field goal, it would have been 34. to 26, and the play before, he easily could have thrown a pick six. Now, the good with Jalen is, when he does get into a rhythm, he's a beautiful deep ball thrower. He has good touch on balls that kind of loop in the air.
Starting point is 00:12:08 I would not say that he has a super strong arm in terms of just throwing bullets, but anytime you get a deeper breaking route and he can set his feet, he's pretty accurate. And he did that consistently all night to A.J. Brown, he'd got her a couple times, Devante Smith. This is why I like the Eagles, even if you have some question marks with them. Their talent on offense is just kind of stupid. Sequin went 24 for 109 and three touchdowns tonight. A.J. Brown had five for 119.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Devante Smith had 7 for 84 and Goddard at four catches. Like all those guys make big time coin, including the quarterback and many guys on the offensive line. So they're offensive skill guys, even when he's throwing picks, are so explosive that they're going to be able to score 25 to 30 points pretty easily. We talked about it last night with Kansas City. Last year, and everyone's been saying this, if you're going to get them, you should have got them last year,
Starting point is 00:13:04 because it was hard for them to score points. Well, it's not going to be hard for them to score points. But they're often offensive weaponry. Obviously, Patrick Mahomes is dramatically better than Jalen. But in terms of the skill around them, that's about as good as you get. I mean, A.J. Brown and Devante Smith, you could argue are one of the better one-two combinations.
Starting point is 00:13:22 and we talked about this in the offseason when we were watching hard knocks. I understand the philosophical belief of we don't pay older running backs. It's very, very risky. I totally get it. But when John Mara said, I don't know if I can sleep at night if he goes to the Eagles, everyone's like, that's how a fan talks. Well, yeah, kind of, but he also knows that's our best player, and that's the best organization in our division.
Starting point is 00:13:51 So if a shitty team is willing to overpay your running back, yeah, maybe you should question yourself. Like, is this, like, let them go. I totally understand it. You don't need, I guess you don't need to question yourself. But the Eagles, who are about as well run as any team in the league when it comes to picking and signing players, are very, very interested because of, as we've talked about,
Starting point is 00:14:14 and both the running backs on, you know, Jacobs included, they are now a discount. right? Brandon Ayuk cost $30 million a year. You had to give him $75 million guaranteed. Actually, I think it was 76. Sequin Barclay's total of his contract guaranteed and non-guaranteed money
Starting point is 00:14:36 was $37 million over three years. So it's now a discount, right? You know, buy low, sell high. Well, now on running backs who are really, really good, as is Sequin. You saw it at night, like, very, very explosive, and it's not like he's just a speedback. He's a physical player. He obviously can catch the ball. He had a receiving touchdown. He's a dynamic player, and it completely changes their offense. Now, the thing with Jalen is he's an interesting player, because obviously he's talented,
Starting point is 00:15:09 and he's going to put up big numbers, but he's not near the top dogs. And I think when you look back two years ago with Shane Steichen, a little bit of an outlier, as you saw tonight, like, he puts the ball in harm's way. I think it's fair to question his decision-making. I would not put him near the top as a great decision-maker. The first interception, you could go, well, didn't play in the preseason, a little rusty. Let's even chalk that one up. But down the stretch of the game, when you have a lead, he easily could have thrown,
Starting point is 00:15:38 now, the second one, if he would have thrown the pick six, the next play would not have happened, obviously. but then later on the next drive, he almost threw another pick to Jai O'E. Alexander, where he was right in front of A.J. Brown. And I think sometimes when he's flustered, he just makes poor decisions. Luckily, they're so explosive and they're scoring so many points that they can overcome it. And the Packers' defense, who we'll get into in a minute, is obviously not great. But I think Jalen is just, obviously his good is really good.
Starting point is 00:16:12 and his bad is really bad. Like you saw tonight some MVP, I don't even MVP, like Pro Bowl level place, and you saw like Daniel Jones level place. And it's going to be on Kellyn Moore, and it's going to be on the coaching staff to try to corral that. But I do think it's going to be kind of difficult.
Starting point is 00:16:31 So when I look at the Eagles, like I didn't pick him to win the division. I picked the Cowboys. And I guess we'll see Dak play on Sunday, but like I think Dak, I am more confident in on the long haul of his play. Jalen is a little bit more of a roller coaster. And you saw tonight the full package.
Starting point is 00:16:52 You saw the good, bad, and the ugly. Series to series. And I think one thing is, Jalen can't play like he's Peyton Manning. That's not his style. And I think deep down he wants to just, I just want to be a pocket quarterback. He's not as fast, obviously, as Lamar.
Starting point is 00:17:08 But what makes Lamar a top five-quarter. quarterback is not his throwing. He's a fine thrower, but when he has to win within the pocket, that's not his thing. It's that he's a dominant dual threat quarterback. And I think ever since two years ago, toward the end of the season, Jalen, the year that he was competing to win the MVP and then had the really good Super Bowl, he was a real, real dual threat player. And if you watched him at Oklahoma, when he ran, he'd like turn into a running back.
Starting point is 00:17:37 He's not super fast, but he's just a super instinctive runner. and you saw tonight he's really powerful. But I don't think he really wants to do it anymore. He did it a couple times at the end of the game, but throughout the course of the game, it feels like those days are kind of over. Like deep down Jalen, and this happened to Russell, like I want to prove I can be a pocket quarterback.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And I just don't think that's the way to play him. I really don't. Now, if you scheme the perfect play because of their talent, it's going to work. But over the course of a game, things are going to break down. He kind of holds the ball a little bit long. he can keep plays alive because he's mobile. But sometimes when he does that, he gets into just awful situation. So, listen, I'm not saying you're down on Jalen Hertz.
Starting point is 00:18:19 If you're an Eagle fan or if you're Howie, I'm not saying you're high on him. You're just kind of like, whoa, this is going to be a roller coaster ride. Luckily, our team's pretty stacked. Now, we talked about it coming into this game defensively. Is their defensive line needed to dominate? Well, as this game went on, they've been. invested two real high picks into Jordan Davis and Jalen Carter. Two blue chippers. I mean, Jalen, if it wasn't for all the off-the-field question
Starting point is 00:18:49 marks, would have been a lock number one overall pick non-quarterback. And I don't have to think who was in his draft, but he would have been the first quarterback off the board. But he fell to ninth for a reason. And you're watching him the night, you're like, where is he? Why isn't he dominating? Jordan Davis, the knock on him last year was weight and they're getting gashed tonight by Josh Jacobs. Even the backup was averaging over 10 yards of carry. The Packers ran for 163 yards. Now, 33 of those were on a Jaden Reed end around, but still, I mean, I think part of what
Starting point is 00:19:27 made the Eagles really good a couple years ago was their defensive line dominated. Where's the edge pressure? I mean, Brandon Graham's older now. they paid Huff a lot of money who the question mark with him was being an all-around player how is he against the run didn't really feel his presence
Starting point is 00:19:45 and linebacker play is just going to be a question now they signed Devin White who was supposed to be a plug-in-play player he didn't play tonight so maybe he will help but Michael Lombardi's talked about this for a while and listen I agree when your linebackers don't play super fast
Starting point is 00:20:02 sometimes your defense can feel a little slow and against the run their defense felt a little slow. Now the young guy they drafted, Mitchell from Toledo, looks like a real, really good player. But the rest of their DBs, I mean, it's going to be a challenge. If their defensive line does not perform at a much higher rate than this, their offense is going to have to score a lot of points because that was concerning. Listen, it's the first week, and the Packers have a lot of juice. But man, I just, when you draft guys really, really high, On your front four, by year two, year three, you expect them to be serious impact players throughout the game.
Starting point is 00:20:42 I just didn't feel their presence. So Jalen roller coaster, good thing for Siriani, he didn't really factor in, good or bad to this game. I don't blame him for those Jalen decisions. You know, Kellan does a good job scheming guys open, but man, you just can't make some of those decisions. And as a coach, like, once the ball snapped, then a guy's scrambling to his right, like, you've drilled it in a million times. You don't think Saban's told him that. Lincoln Riley's told him that. I think his dad was his high school coach.
Starting point is 00:21:10 He's heard it for a long period of time. You can't make that play, especially this many years into your career. Regardless how much you make. I mean, that's football 101. But even with all these question marks, with his turnovers, I think the tush push clearly is not the same.
Starting point is 00:21:27 Definitely not the same. And you lose one of, if not the greatest center of all time, definitely the best center of his generation. feels different. Obviously, the snap at the end of the game, they're not on the same page. They had a fumbled snap early in the game where Jalen wasn't paying attention. Clearly it wasn't supposed to be snap then.
Starting point is 00:21:48 That's just something to keep an eye on because I would say their cohesion center to quarterback was as good as it got. It was like the Stefan Clay version of quarterback center exchange. And now that's gone. And I think we underestimate that because it's hard to quantify, right? It's easy to quantify losing a running back, a tied end, a wide receiver, but like, what happens when you lose the greatest center in the history of the franchise, who was a huge part of one of the most unique plays we've ever seen? And we felt that tonight.
Starting point is 00:22:18 It's simply not the same. But with all that being said, you'll take a win, no matter how many question marks and crazy things happen throughout the game. The Packers. I'm as high on Jordan Love as anyone. I pick them to compete for the NFC because I'm buying stocking this guy. and maybe by the time you're listening to this, he said after the game, assuming his ankle's all right,
Starting point is 00:22:38 that his calf was giving him a lot of trouble, and he wasn't able to plant and throw and drive the ball. But I would say for like half his throws, especially in the second half, it felt like he was watching an Aaron Rogers in the prime of his career teach tape, which no one should do because no one can really do that, throwing balls off the back of his feet all over the place. he was extremely erratic.
Starting point is 00:23:04 I thought for stretches in the third quarter, he was awful, which is concerning, one, just the health of the player, but like we can't have this loosey-goosey just kind of flinging it all over the place with our feet not being set. You have a good arm, but it's one thing to throw the ball off your back feet because you're getting pressure. It's another thing with a clean pocket and just being too cool for school.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Like, that's why the ball. is not going to go where it's supposed to go. And I thought Jordan Love the second half of the game. Now, maybe it was his calf cramping up. Maybe it was just, who knows? I'm not a doctor. I haven't seen the press conference yet. But that was bad.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It was just not good. And they were playing winning football because they were running the ball down the Eagles' throats. And their wide receivers, even slipping and sliding all over the field, were getting open. Those young wide receivers, Reed, Wicks, Watson, that's an encouraging group. Tucker Kraft, it's hard not to like their group of young skill guys.
Starting point is 00:24:08 But Jordan Love, you get paid, a lot of pressure on you. We still need you to just have some basic footwork here. Obviously, he knows it, but he's just kind of like too cool for school. And the balls, like, if he was a baseball pitcher, you would have yanked him in the fourth or the fifth inning. I'm not saying you would have pulled him out of the game, but, like, balls were flying all over the map. And I think both these running backs back to the market, both these teams bought low on running backs relative to all these other positions.
Starting point is 00:24:40 And those two guys are studs. Josh Jacobs and Sequin Barclay, I mean, when they're humming, they're top five running backs. Obviously, Sequin's probably a top two or three. I think Josh Jacobs has said for years, he might even be more complete than Seekwins. It's not as fast, but he is a very, very good player. and when you're quarterback and both these two teams just a radic quarterback play
Starting point is 00:25:03 like the one thing on Thursday night Lamar was a little up and down but he could always make up for it when he's like fuck it I'm gonna run for 30 yards and look like Barry Sanders or Walter Payton now that's not the way he played I was texting with a buddy tonight in the league he's like listen
Starting point is 00:25:18 he is tough to play but that is not a sustainable way to play but in an individual game situation sometimes you've got to do it Jordan loved by the end of the game and it might have been his calf. He wasn't even that mobile. But even when he stayed in the pocket, he wasn't very accurate. So it was just, if you're a Packer fan, it's not total freak out time by any means. But it was not a very good game.
Starting point is 00:25:40 That looked much more like over the course of the game, like the first half of last year, than it did the second half of last year when he became $150 million player. And this is what I always say, why it's so hard. hard to become a star because becoming a star is not doing something for a year and even though I like I projected him to keep being good I bought into it how could you not but we it's it's hard to do it year after year so there's going to be pressure on him one just to get healthy and just play more consistent because with that many skill guys there aren't excuses and here's the other thing like
Starting point is 00:26:18 division's tough man so it's this was a road game in Brazil not the end of the world by any means, but I think individually when you look at him, it makes you scratch your head a little bit. And then last but not least, I talked about it coming into this game on Thursday's podcast, the defense, the defense, the defense. And you hire Jeff Halfley, who like, listen, with Vic Fangio, he has a long resume of doing this. And they're paying him $5 million for a reason.
Starting point is 00:26:48 They feel very confident he knows what he's doing. Now, whether that actually comes to fruition over the course of the season, only time will tell. But Jeff Haffley has been a defensive coordinator in the NFL's zero years of his career. He's been a defensive coordinator at a Power 5 college one year of his career, and I'm pretty sure he's a co-defensive coordinator. Now, there is a chance, like they've gone through a lot of defensive coordinators over the Rogers and Love era now, and most of their defenses have looked pretty similar. Miss tackles, DBs running behind guys, and getting gals.
Starting point is 00:27:25 dashed in the run game. So there is a chance it's the players. They've invested a lot of money. Obviously, Kenny Clark's a really good player. And so is Roshan Gary. But it feels like the defense reminded me a lot of the previous couple years. When the Green Bay Packer fans were like, get this Joe Barry guy off my sideline.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Which I understand. As a fan, when you watch an offense or defense suck, you want that coordinator gone. no different than a player. Like, this guy can't play. Let's draft another guy. There is no guarantee that the guy you draft is going to be any better. And Jeff Hathley, like, the jury's still out.
Starting point is 00:28:08 Because tonight, they were getting shredded. And, like, I don't give them that much credit for some of the interceptions. Jalen Hurts is throwing it right to you. Right? Just awful decision-making. So I think if you're a Packer fan, LaFour's proven. Jordan loves proven that they can mentally handle some bumps in the road.
Starting point is 00:28:28 They did it last year. I would feel pretty good about over the course of the year, as long as love is healthy, that our offense will be better. And they scored 29 points tonight. And actually had a couple awful red zone trips. I mean, they easily could have scored 40 if they were better in the red zone. But the defense, man, I mean, if you're an Eagle fan, it's like we've got some big-ass dudes up front.
Starting point is 00:28:51 Let's figure something fucking out. here. You're the Packers. You're like, can any of our guys play in our back seven? Quay Walker made a couple plays, but like, are guys good enough and does our coordinator know what he's doing? Our division's really hard. The expectations for this team are high. The hype on this guy is high because we stole him. He was a head coach in college and he came here. It's like, this guy's going to save us. And then the first night, Eagles run for 144 yards, throw for 280. And you're not feeling great. You're really not. So this is what the cool part about the last two nights, you're watching four teams that should be locked playoff teams with the talent they have. But beside
Starting point is 00:29:35 the Chiefs, Ravens got issues. Eagles defense has some question marks. Obviously Jalen and the Packers now, the defense looks kind of the same. Like it looks exactly the same. And I think that is going to be the pressure and the test put on this defensive coordinator, like, can he fix it? Because we've seen this before. Well, this next guy's going to fix it. And then he can't. So to me, for the Packers, who I thought were a Super Bowl contender, no chance. Like, if you're going to play defense even in this world.
Starting point is 00:30:08 It's not possible. And to me, on the Eagles, to be a Super Bowl contender, obviously Jalen cannot turn the ball over in these big spots. But it's like, is there a linebacker play good enough? And beside the rookie DB, can they cover well enough? Because it is difficult in this modern-day NFL. Like, the huge advantage the Chiefs have is their great cover team. They have DBs four days. What's a passing league?
Starting point is 00:30:37 So it's like perfectly made. And they have the greatest quarterback. So you're like, well, they got the greatest quarterback and they got a great pass defense. It's like, kind of works. I mean, that's kind of the formula in 2024. You know, in 1996, you better be able to run the ball and you better be able to stop the run. I'm watching the Packers tonight. Listen, it's a tough matchup, A.J. Brown, Devante Smith.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Those two guys are making a lot of money. But they had no shot. I mean, it should have been worse. So a little overreaction, week one, big game, but that's part of the deal, especially like we're not watching the Giants and Panthers here. These are two teams that have like NFC championship Super Bowl aspiration. and these are their players. It's not like reinforcements ain't coming.
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Starting point is 00:36:23 Okay, I wanted to dive in something that I saw today that I didn't get to notice because when we go and record right after the game, It's not like we sit and wait for the press conferences and everything to come out to then dissect. I mean, this is kind of the game ends and the record button, and I'm firing off takes and thoughts on the game within, I would say, no more than five to seven minutes. So it's pretty rapid fire. And then when I'm laying in bed, scrolling around, you see all these comments from the Ravens and everyone's just crushing them, essentially calling them delusional. And I want to defend the Ravens for a little bit because I think anyone can relate to this. When you are chasing someone, and I would say most of us in our different lines of work,
Starting point is 00:37:15 are always chasing someone or something. There's always people ahead of you more than likely in an industry. If you run a company, companies doing better than you. If it's individual positions, people you aspire to be. And the only way to get there, obviously you've got to work hard. You got to produce. I do believe you got to be a little delusional. I think of most of us, and I throw myself in there,
Starting point is 00:37:42 if I just listed on a weekly basis, my career aspirations, my financial aspirations, you would probably think I was a delusional lunatic. And I would imagine if I put a mic in front of your mouth and ask for the same, especially someone very competitive, someone very aspirational, someone that wants to achieve a lot,
Starting point is 00:38:03 you might sound crazy too to a lot of people. So when the Ravens lose and Lamar says they're not my kryptonite, I believe we scored a touchdown, Isaiah likely, if that's their best shot, good luck to them in the future, meaning we'll see in the playoffs again. It's easy for everyone to take a giant dump
Starting point is 00:38:24 on everything they're saying. But it doesn't bother me as much. I don't like delusion. when you have no success and you have no chance of success in the near future. So when bad teams talk craziness as the season goes on, it's like, you guys are out in the wilderness. But the Ravens are good. And over the Lamar era, they've been really good.
Starting point is 00:38:50 The problem for them has been these big games, obviously the Chiefs and just other playoff games. But the only way that they're ever going to get over the hump, from a mental standpoint is believe they can win. And before you can actually do something, you have to kind of believe it. Now, I don't think this version of Lamar can beat the Chiefs. And I do believe there is kryptonite.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Why? Because he can't throw on them. There was a period during the game last night. Collinsworth mentioned this. His average throw length was like one yard past the line of scrimmage. It ain't going to work. You have to hit these big plays. or just bigger chunk plays. And they can't just be these freak lucky
Starting point is 00:39:32 you hit Isaiah likely, which is a good pass and a good play, but then he does the rest. Like part of what makes the Chiefs and gives their advantage over good teams is they can sustain a drive at any moment throwing the ball. And Lamar simply against the best cannot.
Starting point is 00:39:50 He makes up for it and keeps you in games like last night with his exceptional athleticism and running ability. It's like he turns into Barry Sanders. It's remarkable to watch. And I saw a lot of people today nitpicking if he takes too many hits. And over the course of time, I agree. But it doesn't feel like he gets hit hard that many times.
Starting point is 00:40:10 I know he's part of collisions, but I would tend to agree you can't sustain running around getting hit. But you have to be delusional. You really do. And I think their franchise, the only way to get past the big dogs, specifically the Chiefs, is they're going to have to have this only they're going to believe
Starting point is 00:40:29 because if they play again in January one, they're going to be the underdog and two, nobody and I mean nobody is going to pick them to win or believe they can win outside of that Ravens locker. And I would imagine there will even be some people
Starting point is 00:40:46 inside the Ravens like, can't we really do this? But if their best players aren't delusional about their opportunity to figure this thing out, they got no fucking chance. Just like if you don't believe in yourself, good luck in life.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Because trust me, a lot of people not only don't care, they're not thinking about you or believe in you. So you have to have the most belief in your success. I believe that big time. And listen, are there comments to the casual person kind of crazy given what we've witnessed these last two games? Of course they are. but like this team's aspirations as a franchise
Starting point is 00:41:26 and they're one of the more clearly higher level franchises in the league Lamar has flaws but he's still a better player than like 98% of the league just happens the gap between him and the homes is pretty wide and it's not really debatable at this point flawed player but luckily his flaw the chiefs have been the team that can really take advantage of it maybe they get a chance where the chiefs get knocked out
Starting point is 00:41:49 in the second round by someone else they don't have to play them I don't know how it plays out. I'm not betting on this Ravens team, winning a Super Bowl, but if they don't believe they can, what's the point of even doing this? And I also think when you work really hard to do something and you spend months as a football player, right? You lose a devastating game in the AFC championship game at home.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And then you basically have nine months to think about it. Every day you're training. You have OTAs, and then you have training camp. All you're talking about is this game, especially the starters. They're not discussing the preseason. Everything from the moment the pads come on in training camp to even working on shit in the OTAs is built for that moment.
Starting point is 00:42:32 And then you lose? Like, it sucks. But you kind of got to warp your mind. You can't just wave the white flag. Some people might push back on that. But I wasn't like thinking these guys are insane for having what many believe to be delusional beliefs. because I think you kind of have to
Starting point is 00:42:52 to ever give yourself an opportunity to achieve anything. I wanted to just hit on a bunch of stuff this weekend. I was thinking about like, you know what I haven't done in a while? Just like grab a six-pack. You know the older you get, you think back, you're like, God,
Starting point is 00:43:07 simpler times. You know, you're just young, you just grab a six-pack each with a buddy and you just cash it while you watch some TV. And I was thinking, like, let's do a little weekend six-pack of things on Sunday that I am looking for.
Starting point is 00:43:20 forward to. And I'm looking forward to, like anyone, the best part about week one is even the bad games are very watchable, because we don't really know. We have a decent idea, but some teams are going to be better than we thought. Some teams are going to be worse than we thought, but everyone starts at a zero-zero-slate and anything's possible. And as I talked about with Stucky, week one can get weird and it can get weird fast. I saw this clip go viral from inside the NFL, which Belichick has joined with Ocho, Chris Long, and I think Ryan Clark. And I want you to listen to something that Belichick said that I think, you know, went pretty viral on the internet streets. Whoever they played against in preseason, it wasn't the best players on the other team.
Starting point is 00:44:05 So what you're saying is, coach, we can't plan a parade because Caleb was so accurate in the preseason. Well, it wasn't accurate. It's 10 for 20. It's like you didn't watch the 20 throws. Come on. There's a reason he's excited. It's 20 throws, Chad. He buzzed through him. We got to think how good the 10 were that were completed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:24 The extended planes. They weren't that good. There was a couple highlight plays that they weren't that good. Hey, no one's saying he might not be great. But what we're saying is, it's just you need the context. It's like when I hear somebody's lighting it up in camp, I'm like, is he running with the twos? Is he going against the two defense? Is the quarterback struggling because he's got the two offensive line?
Starting point is 00:44:42 There's just a lot we don't know. First and foremost, I think everyone's like, damn. It's kind of crushing Caleb. Well, old school coaches don't get on their knees and slurp somebody that's a rookie. I don't care who it is. You have to prove it. I'm not necessarily in that camp. Like, I'm pretty hyped up.
Starting point is 00:45:02 But, like, Belichick's not a big hype guy. He doesn't give a crap about that. And I've been saying this about Caleb. I think we've kind of jumped the shark a little bit. There's still a lot of unknown. Now, I get it from a bear stand, fan stand. point, I understand the Bears bar at quarterback's really low. I totally understand that. But I think, I mean, Nick Wright's like picking him to compete for the Super Bowl. I see people
Starting point is 00:45:26 picking this guy to be like MVP and them to win the division. It's like, guys, let's just see if like back-to-back weeks when films out, he can beat you from the pocket. And I think Belichick is just saying, like, those preseason highlight tape plays that he put on tape mean nothing to me. Now, they mean something to me because he has the case. capability, but to be a high-level team, those plays are going to come and they go. We knew he had that capability when you watched him play at USC. For the Bears to be good, and I kind of like Titans this weekend. Not necessarily to win, but three and a half.
Starting point is 00:46:01 I think everyone, like, we just need to pump the brakes on the Bears a little bit, because I always say playing as a rookie quarterback, and then you quadruple the hype on it is really, really hard to live up to. Like, ultimately, C.J. Stroud, who had one of the great rookie seasons we've ever seen, I think statistically the best, kind of got to fly under the radar despite being a number two overall pick
Starting point is 00:46:23 because everyone thought his team was going to suck. And that's how most young guys get to play. Right? They get to just, even Bo Nix, the overrunner for the Denver Broncos is like five and a half. And most people, if you just polled like the average football fan,
Starting point is 00:46:36 I think the Broncos be pretty, as the kids would say, mid, pretty average, below 500. So if he has some good games, some bad games, we'd be like, oh, Bo Nix is really,
Starting point is 00:46:45 might have something there. Where it's like if Caleb Williams isn't competing to be a pro bowler immediately, it's going to feel like a letdown in Chicago. So when Belichick's comments, everyone's like, geez, what you hate her? He's just saying, like, I watched the guy throw some balls in the pocket and it didn't look great. And all he has to go on now, he's only played one, you know, he skipped the bowl game, so he doesn't play a game until some of these preseason games, and then he's going up against vanilla defenses and backups.
Starting point is 00:47:12 So I think everyone's just expecting three or four touchdowns. And that might be the case and it'll be fun to watch. But I think it's a little more difficult than the way the discourse is gone. So if Belichick is going to like throw some zingers and talk a little shit, I'm all in. Speaking of rookie quarterbacks, another game I like is the Broncos this week. Not to win the game, but they're getting six points. and I think just one of the more fascinating stories, a lot like Caleb and the Bears,
Starting point is 00:47:44 is just Sean Peyton and this quarterback. Like, how does it look? Does it actually work as seamlessly? Like the other, one difference between Caleb and Bo Nix is like Bo Nix in the preseason succeeded running a lot of the stuff Sean Payton's going to ask him to do.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Quick throws in the pocket, snap, go. You know, Caleb's success came with kind of run around and making plays, which again, my comp forum has always been, been like prime Russell Wilson. Not true pocket quarterback, like run around, and you can win and make the playoffs with that version. But the guy they won the Super Bowl with was really much more of a game manager, who occasionally would do some spectacular shit.
Starting point is 00:48:25 But Bo Nix is going to play much more, like, you know, historically, I'm not comparing him to Drew Breeze here, but ball snapped, balls out pretty quick. And this is a tough test. on the road, spirits are high in Seattle, that place would probably be rocking, I would imagine, raising that 12. I'm just fascinated to watch kind of this team operate and Sean, who I've watched a decent amount of his press conferences during this, during training camp, pretty upbeat. I think he likes his team. And it's one thing for a coach that's never done anything to like his team. Like, this guy kind of has a decent idea what a good and a bad team looks like. And last year,
Starting point is 00:49:06 part of it was he clearly did not like Russell Wilson. I mean, let's look back on that. Remember the discourse and the conversation when he screamed at Russell Wilson? It's like, you can't do that. You can't? He's a coach as the player. You're watching football, depending on how old you are, our entire lives. Isn't that pretty normal?
Starting point is 00:49:26 I mean, Tom Brady and Peyton Manning screamed at coaches. Like, this is the big leagues. Russell Wilson was making $40-plus million. Sean Payton's making $18, 20. You're allowed to yell at him, especially when you don't think he's any good. Now I think the question mark is the Pittsburgh game, like Russell, we'll see if he ends up playing in that game because the calf injury is back. Number three, the much awaited, it's been a long, long time. And I lived in the Bay Area when the 49ers mutually departed with Jim Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:49:58 It's probably one of the bigger stories on a negative side in the history of the Bay Area. I mean, the 49ers got torched for it. And listen, they regretted it for a while, and Kyle and John kind of saved the day. But then Jim went to Michigan, and in a weird way, felt like he was underwhelming because he wasn't, like, competing to win national championships. It couldn't beat Ohio State.
Starting point is 00:50:23 And these last couple years kind of validated it all. And now he's back. And now he has a quarterback. Now, is his team good enough? I don't know. but I do believe, one, there's just zero chance on God's Green Earth. You could bet against Jim Harbaugh and Justin Herbert against Antonio Pearson Gardner Minchew. So he has a clear advantage in this first game, and I expect Chargers to win,
Starting point is 00:50:50 and I'm just glad that we're going to have Jim kind of walking up and down an NFL sideline. Number four, this has got to be the most anticipated broadcast debut. in a long, long time. Anytime the Cowboys play, week one, it's a highly anticipated game. For a lot of the last 20 years, because the Giants had been good, it felt like the Giants and Cowboys played a lot on Sunday night football. And now they're playing the Cleveland Browns, who last year made the playoffs, had a fantastic year,
Starting point is 00:51:25 have a really good team, even though they're a little banged up. And that game alone, like me and you could be calling it, and people would be interested. I like the Cowboys in that game, simply because quarterback advantage, Dallas, and there's some question marks with the Cleveland's offensive line. I would expect Mike Zimmer in that defense to be pretty good. But to me, this game, it feels different because Tom Brady's calling it. And is he going to be good?
Starting point is 00:51:52 I sure hope so. Because like most people, you end up watching with the sound on, regardless how many TVs you have, a lot of Sunday afternoon Fox games. and it's going to be, you know, we'll see how he can navigate some of these restrictions. Maybe he won't give a shit. I hope he just is himself. Obviously, he knows football. I think he has this incredible way to balance, like, being relatable, despite being super famous, super rich.
Starting point is 00:52:22 You know, he's, at least in America, I don't know, worldwide. Like, he's like our male Taylor Swift or something in terms of his fame. But can he balance, like, being pretty entertaining? people can say Gruden's a little sticky, and he can be, but I've watched some of his YouTube videos, him just showing me his office. Gruden can keep my attention, and he kind of has that John Madden magic.
Starting point is 00:52:47 He's different than John, but he's just cameras on, lights are on, the dudes of showmen. And Tom always was as a player, and him and Peyton obviously have done a lot of ads over the year, so they've played that role in the commercial standpoint, but calling a game, the pressure. I mean, you're going to have 25 million people watching this thing easy.
Starting point is 00:53:09 It'll be interesting to see the reaction. Everyone's going to have an opinion. To me, all these guys know football. I'm not looking for you to break down the coverage every play. Most people do not care. We want to be entertained. And the two best entertainers by a mile were John Madden, who's the best of all time.
Starting point is 00:53:31 And listen, hate him or love him. Gruden was good at his job. There was a region they were paying him $10 million a year. And Monday night fell off a cliff when he took the Raiders job because he was entertaining. And this is not about this job breaking it down to the hard, hardcore that wants to know every route.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Like, you can't get too into the weeds in football. It's too confusing. Like the 29 million people that watched the game last night on Thursday night football couldn't tell you five routes on the route tree couldn't tell you the difference of a three technique and a nose tackle
Starting point is 00:54:11 they just can't and it doesn't matter that's not what makes football enjoyable like Collinsworth just kind of has a good time you know he's just an enjoyable hang I think Troy Aikman has kind of got his swag back he's just an easy hang obviously you can do some nerdy football stuff
Starting point is 00:54:29 but like part of it is like You're an entertainer. And I think Peyton is really good at this. But his thing with Eli is a little more looser. And doing a game is a little different. Short sound bites, it's hard. And I know they've practiced a lot, but there's just going to be a lot of people watching.
Starting point is 00:54:48 There are going to be a lot of opinions on his performance. I was kicking myself last night. I thought about trying to get my $5,000 of the Raven stole from me in that AFC championship game. And I was going to live bet the Chiefs. And I didn't pull the trigger to get my 5K back. I was like, yeah, still kind of risky trying to do a backyard. I got to redo the pool.
Starting point is 00:55:10 We got a wedding coming up. But I do want my money back. So I think what I'm going to do is take $1,000 and bet on my favorite money line team, or my favorite underdog and just put the money on them straight up. And there were three games that jumped out to me, Dallas on the road in Cleveland, Pittsburgh on the road in Atlanta, and the Jags on the road with the dolphins. and I kind of ended up, like, Cleveland can be a tough place to play. And obviously, Pittsburgh, quarterback situation's up in the air.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Not a huge Atlanta guy, but that, and I understand Tomlin's one of the great underdogs in betting history, but that's probably just going to be a stay away for me. So it kind of came down between the Cowboys and the Jags, and I think I've settled on the Jacks. And I don't like the Dolphins this year. I don't think they're going to win two games, but I think their playoff days are over. and I don't like if you just look at the Jags and you go well a huge advantage for Miami early in the season is what they play outside and it's humid and most people aren't used to the Florida
Starting point is 00:56:15 crazy humidity especially some of these teams coming from different areas in the country or the Jags play Florida two I understand like I like Peter Shreger I like Kevin Clark a lot those guys love Mike McDaniel I like McDaniel as an entertainer. I think he says funny shit. And he clearly knows football. He's a very, very good offensive mind. Kyle Shanahan loved him for a reason.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And he's been good for two. But he hasn't really won that many big games. He actually, you could argue, hasn't won any. And so if you look at the two coaches, you go, well, Doug Peterson's record, his resume speaks for itself. I mean, he'd be Belichick. a playoff game. And I got a lot of question marks with these two quarterbacks.
Starting point is 00:57:04 But I don't think the gap's that wide. If you tell me Trevor Lawrence just outplayed Tua. So what I think I'm going to do, you can get the Jags right now plus 140 as of Friday. I think I'm going to put a little coin on the old Jags to win straight up in that game. And then we'll just kind of let it ride for a couple weeks and see what we can build up to. Last but not least. Let's cash this bad boy. The craziest part about week one is at the end of the day, it doesn't determine much, right?
Starting point is 00:57:37 The Chiefs lost week one last year. They won Super Bowl, won three straight games on the road as a dog. So week one does not make or break your season. A couple years ago, the 49ers went to the NFC championship game. They lost on the road to Chicago Bears and Justin Field with Tray Lance. By the end of the year, Brock Purdy was starting and helping them make a run. Things change dramatically in the NFL. It's why all these coaches talk about the 53 man cut down. Like, I think we get too caught up now in the 53. The season's a game longer.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Our practice squad's way bigger. A lot of these practice squad guys will eventually be on the big roster and half of them be starters by middle to the end of the year. So the team, all this stuff so fluid because of the injuries. But because of the setup of football, You only play once a week. Like, I always had a hard time when I worked in radio. I was like, it's a big baseball game the night. So, John, this is game 94. It actually doesn't mean anything.
Starting point is 00:58:42 So if the ace goes nine innings, awesome. If you get shelled and they yank them after three, it doesn't determine much. And that's part of the reason baseball has fallen out of the landscape of all of us talking about it. Because it's not, it's a bad talk radio sport. It's a bad podcast sport. football is made for this
Starting point is 00:59:02 because every game means so much and when you have an entire off season and everyone has hope there are going to be some teams that just look atrocious and whether everyone thought you were going to be bad or whether you're a team like the Bears and you lose of the Titans
Starting point is 00:59:19 or whoever the Giants were to lose to Minnesota at home people just freak out and there's going to be a team or two Like it's one thing to lose. The Ravens lost. That's a loss. You can keep your head up.
Starting point is 00:59:33 You lost by a touchdown. You didn't cover. But whatever. I mean, you were right there at the end. And it's against the Chiefs. But there are going to be some losses by double digits where it's like, you guys looked like shit. And I think the problem with that is, and this is where the fans and whoever's covering your team. It's like, you've had nine months to get ready for this game.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And you lay an egg? I love overreaction. or proper reactions when a team just gets housed and worked in week one. It's one thing, listen, you're going to get beat, you're going to have lay eggs throughout the season. When that happens on week one,
Starting point is 01:00:12 fair or not, people react to it like your season's over before it even began. The volume. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite, unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk
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Starting point is 01:01:16 I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, what's good, y'all? You're listening to learn the hard way with your favorite therapist and host Kear Games. This space is about black men's, experiences, having honest conversations that's really not safe to have anywhere, but you're having
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Starting point is 01:02:19 sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to stuff to blow your mind on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On the Look Back at it podcast. From 1979, that was a big moment for me. Eighty-four was big to me. I'm Sam J. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it,
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