The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Reaction to Fernando Mendoza & Indiana DESTROYING Oregon in CFP Semifinal

Episode Date: January 10, 2026

Former NFL scout John Middlekauff & Jackson Groff are reacting LIVE immediately following the College Football Playoff Semifinal matchup between the University of Indiana Hoosiers football vs. the University of Oregon Ducks football. John and Jackson will react to the biggest plays of the night, breaking news around the sport of college football, and much more! Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Use promo code “3ANDOUT20” on https://nicokick.com/zone for 20% off at checkout! Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Okay, Alabama's not that good. Obviously, Oregon had some running back issues. They have some injuries. But they treated them tonight like they were playing UC Davis, week two, you know, in a game that no one's paying attention to in Bloomington. That was these last two games, you go the last three games, the Ohio State win. But that was a true football game, right? It was a slug fest.

hold it out. It was biggest win in program history. These last two weeks, it's felt like, I don't know, peak Bama. I update myself, maybe Urban Meyer at Florida, Pete Carroll at USC. They obliterate. And the difference is comparing Indiana to those teams, those teams were littered with just first and second rounders. You remove Fernando Mendoza. You know, I talk to people in the NFL. They're like, well, they got Surat, the running back, the corner, the pick six, the left tackle that's viewed as a guard. I mean, they got a handful of guys that are going to get drafted third, fourth, fifth round. The linebacker viewed more like a, you know, I think it's going to sound bad, just a guy, but talk about a late round pick or an undrafted free agent. This is not

Georgia three years ago where 10 of their starters on defense are going to get drafted in the first two rounds. So I think when you factor in the lack of five stars, Signetti with the Google Me, it's been incredible to witness. And tonight, piggybacking off Alabama is truly one of the biggest ass kicking two game stretches. Now, we haven't had the playoffs for two years, and who knows, maybe we'll see this again. But I am, all I can do is be like, holy shit, this team is good. Yeah, I looked up the CFP. history to see like what was the biggest blowout in the college ball playoff and this was obviously what 34 points 35 points was the peach ball with ls ukewarm back in 2019 2020 and it feels like those

teams obviously they're going to get the comparisons about who's better 2019 lSU or 2025 indiana i don't know the answer because of the star studded talent NFL prospects of 2019 lSU but i do think if you were to remove the logo of indiana and put an alabama logo on there then you have that discussion but it's just remarkable. They had the whole piece beforehand about all these guys coming from JMU and how they were so under-recruited for the portal and you got these guys. Even the running backs tonight, not black,

but Hemby was a three-star back coming out of the transfer portal. 15th running back. They grabbed him. And then you see the guys that they're grabbing today in the last couple weeks. Where did he come from? He came from Maryland. So he was a four-year starter at Maryland, played 49 snaps. So, I mean, 49 starts, I should say, just a productive back. But to have those two guys, 11 and 14

on third down. I mean, You just get more and more impressed by this team. They're just so, they say it all the time. Simon Perfect, fundamentally sound. But to be able to develop these guys that quick, like I haven't seen anything like it. And even, you know, the broadcasters, Greg McElroy said it was one of the best fundamentally sounded teams

that he's ever broadcasted. And, you know, you followed the sport for a long, long time than me. I don't think there's an argument to saying that because this team just doesn't make mistakes. Well, offensively, they feel like a well-oiled NFL machine because they can run the ball down. your throat. You know, a lot like Miami, right? They could physically dominate you at the point of attack and run the ball at you with multiple backs. Hemby's really good. The backup black who,

I mean, tonight had out rushed him. He's a really, he's a good player too. So, I mean, they're one-two punch at running back is high level for college football. Again, this isn't Jeremiah Love, right? Christian McCaffrey, these guys aren't going to be John Robinson, but both of them are going to get shots in the NFL, especially I think he's, I think he's Hemby will be late round pick undrafted free agent, but undrafted free agents make teams all the time. The difference between them in Miami is their well-rounded passing game. You know, Mendoza is a better player than Carson Beck, but they got three wide receivers, right? Surrott, who's going to play in the NFL for sure.

And Becker has really, really come on. Tonight, I don't know if that's a better throw, better catch, just a great play, right? That's ideal pitch and catch. I mean, the guy, it's not like it was terrible. It's not like the guy tripped. I mean, he's right there, his hands up. It just doesn't get a better throw. And obviously, Cooper is just, you feel like makes plays in the red zone.

He's just, I mean, so him being healthy, which he got injured right in that Ohio State game, the first series, they feel like a well-balanced attack on offense. And then defensively, what are they mentioning tonight? The defensive coordinator, when he first, I mean, both the coordinator started working for Signetio. I think what's cool is, part of Sabin or Pete, Carroll or Urban Meyer. They started getting these, especially Sabin and Pete Carroll, these really famous coordinators.

Back when I was young, when you were like five, Pete used to have guys like, obviously had Lane and Sark who were in their 20s, but he had like Norm Chow. I mean, he had some really well-known older guys. Sabin forever had famous guys being coordinators, former head coaches. Like Mario was known as a

Sabin guy. It's because Mario had coached like FAU and failed and then went to Nick. Lane had been at USC, then goes to Nick. So, Signetti's dealing with these two guys who have worked for him the entire time. The defensive coordinator was making like $6,000 at their first stop and was on food stamps. And then they're like, yeah, you just signed a contract, $3 million a year, $9 million contract. The offensive coordinator, maybe he gets, because I started thinking,

how does the offense and the defensive coordinator not make the same amount? Maybe because Signetti's an offensive guy, even though to me, at least from the outside, He feels much more like, I don't know, like the CEO of the entire operation. Like I envision him talking with the defensive guys, the offensive guys, but his babies, the offense clearly. And both those guys, Mike Shanahan, you see those guys with the walkie-talkies. This is the difference. If their logo, let's just pick the conference.

Was Oregon, was Penn State, was Michigan, Ohio State, and they had had the same success for two years. How have both those guys not gotten 10 interviews? That's what I was going to ask you because like what's the, because on the flip side of it, you got Will Stein who's going to be the new coach at Kentucky. And then you got Tosh O'Poy who's going to go to Cal and I'm not diminishing them as bad coaches. They're going to be transitioning fine and they've had great times and great tenures at Oregon. But I'm shocked that they don't even get an interview at a Florida.

They got beat like a drum tonight by those two guys. Now Tosh and Will, Tosh has been famous for a long time. He played for Tedford transition and became like one of Tedford's like, Mario Cristobal for Sabin for Tedford back in the late 2000s getting dudes. Marshawn, Deshawn, Cameron, Jordan, like they were producing, and then he works for Sabin. So Tosh has been a very famous kind of name in the cycle, and he got hired at his alma mater. I would say Will Stein, he's been a relatively famous offensive coordinator now for several years at, let's face it, a sexier program.

Well, not now. I mean, Indiana is the sexiest program going. So I would say going into next year, even if I'm not going to bet on them taking a step back, but let's just say they go nine and three next year after winning, let's say they win the national championship. You have to interview these two guys because they've worked with this guy who feels much more like he's a drill sergeant for the Navy Seals than he does. Like even Sabin was pretty unique personality on the sideline. He does not show very much emotion. like he's and clearly it's his age

I'm listen anytime that you have to go through the mud to get where you're at I think you have perspective like this is how old's Dan Lanning my 40 years old my age yeah you know he pretty quick riser I mean what what years is this now at Oregon for before that he was Kirby's DC

like he's been living the charm life throughout his 30s right I know it's hard for him early but see that he's 64 years old a lot of time at IUPI or wherever the hell he was Obviously, JMU was going pretty well. But even when you kick ass at JMU, no one's discussing you on college game day. Maybe you get a blurb, right? So what he's done in his name and this program, but again, you just watch them play.

I think going into the NFL playoffs, maybe the Jags, I don't think there's just a team in football college or the NFL that's just playing as complete football as them. defense offensively they blocked a punt tonight I mean what are they not doing well it's shocking when they had to punt shocking and you could tell they kind of got conservative right started running the ball in the second half so is he

are they truly pushing the pedal to the metal like running crazy plays like the game you were at last night every third and five was make or break in the game so you're running your best plays you come out a half time of 35 to 7 I mean, when your defense is good, it's going to be basically impossible to beat you. But that was, I don't know if I didn't respect them because it's impossible not to when you blow out a playoff team as they did in Alabama, even if Alabama's down. I blow it away after tonight.

That first half is, that's one of the most impressive things I've ever seen. I mean, seriously, I'm not trying to be hyperbolic, but factoring in the stars. And listen, it's not, I was at Fresno State. We, if you go back to the teams, I was a part of an 08, 09, we would have had 15 guys getting poached by Texas USC, multiple guys that would have got seven figures. So just because you're not a five-star guy that doesn't determine. But to just take all these guys and kick everyone's ass at the highest level

is a crazy experience as a viewer. I think it was crazy too just to see the buy-in from Indiana how fast it was. I mean, it was a home game in Atlanta. And we were texting beforehand, you know, the national championship is going to be in Miami. The ticket's like $3,000, the cheapest one that you. $3,200 what you sent. I wouldn't be shocked.

I know it's in Miami and Miami actually showed out well last night against Ole Miss. I wouldn't be shocked if Indiana had, what, 60, 40 at that game, 55, 45, 45? They're going to. Like, I got to factor in two things. They have more alumni. Miami's a smaller school, right? It's a private, smaller private school. Number one alumni base in the country.

it was coming out. And most of the schools are the Big Ten schools because they're huge. ASU sleeper. It was like five. And Indiana is a good school. A lot of successful people. My guess is that number wins the game next Monday by next weekend's close to five. It's going to be huge.

We've got to wait 11 days for the national championship. Which is good because Miami's, I saw Mario. I think their teams kind of beat up. Yeah. Yeah, they're really beat up. Now they're not going to have that. They're in trouble. They're in trouble.

Yeah. Yeah, they are in trouble. in their defensive line too against Ole Miss was pretty quiet which I'm looking forward obviously we'll talk about Miami Indiana just to see that defensive line against Indiana offensive line I just don't know offensively for Indiana

what they're bad at I do not understand what they're bad at the RPO system he's a good decision maker they had five penalties which I think is one of the more higher penalty games they've had in the last couple weeks I mean five's not horrible but compared to the most of the games they play I think it's like two or three or four

but yeah the emerging and some Becker. It also didn't help that Dante Moore at three turnovers. I mean, that pick six, that first play. Yikes. And then the two fumbles with the exchange with the running back. And, you know, they obviously have running back issues because Lamar hits the portal two days ago.

Davison gets his clavicle broken against Texas Tech, even though he still played. I don't know how he played with the broken clavicle or when that happened. Hill looked off. No, Wittington. Their first leading running back had turf toe. And they showed his bandage on the sideline. It looked like you'd even have a cleeton. His bandage was so big.

But regardless of that, like, we saw them beat Texas Tech. You saw the line at three points. And I'm right. Like, you're right. It's one of the more impressive things. And they made Dante Moore look really rattles. Let's talk about the two quarterbacks because I think going into this game, Fernando Mendoza was a consensus number one overall pick.

He's bigger. He's more accurate. He's got a lot more experience. I think tonight the Raiders general manager was in the house. I don't even think it's a question. Now, I'm not putting everything on more the last two weeks. I mean, their team is not as good as Indiana. He's not apples to apples.

Their offensive line clearly is not playing that well. Their wide receivers are questionable. Their running back situation was a joke. To start with the pick six, he ain't the first and the last guy that's throwing a pick six. Payton Manning threw a pick six in Super Bowl. I'm not going to end the guy's career. But one thing you see with Fernando Mendoza, it kind of hit me tonight. I know Daniel Jeremiah threw out Matt Ryan and people have been throwing.

To me, Matt Ryan wasn't a good athlete, right? And Fernando Mendoza and his cow background, Jared Gough, when you look back, Jared Gough was a pure pocket pastor. Now, the world was a lot different when he came out in 2014 or 15. But I think Fernando Mendoza, like Matt Ryan, like Jared Gough, similar arm, I mean, good arm, not great, on drive throws that, I think his last touchdown, even McElroy was like, God, that was a dot. you know, he can drive it, but he's got great touch, great accuracy,

and he throws a very nice deep ball. I mean, he's proven that the last three weeks, right? His deep ball, that big game, Ohio State, multiple big deep shots tonight. That deep ball was a thing of beauty in contested areas, too. Like, NFL people, whether you're playing Oregon or whether you're playing a D2 team, they don't give a shit when you hit wide open people. Because that's anyone should be able to hit a wide open guy. It's contested catches.

I think he's the level of, you know, Matt Ryan was a third pickoff, but he's a way better athlete. You saw him tonight run a couple times. He had the one where he fumbled. He did the, I think the only reason he did the 360 is because he kind of got bumped off the spot, so he just kind of continued. I don't think that's, that was like his go-to move. But to me, he's not some all-time great prospect because he doesn't, you know, Caleb physically, like, talent-wise, or John Elway.

his traits aren't like elite elite, but he's a really, really good prospect. And when you watch him play tonight, he's just in complete control. Like his game, all the Shanahan type guys, Kyle, McVeigh, LaFleur, Kevin O'Connell, they would love this guy.

And he, you know, Stefansky, the boots, the waggles, the accuracy. And then every once in a while, you just got to make a play on your own, I think he's a really, really good number one overall pick. And if I was a Raider fan, and they got a lot of them that are down and out because their team's been so crappy, I'd be really excited. Like a high-level guy, he's big, solid arm, accurate, ton of playing experience, smart as shit, clearly well-liked by his teammates, competitive.

I mean, Mario, who's, you'd argue, is the best recruiter in the country. Hell, Siggs right up there now, too. They're recruiting a little different kid, you know, Mario was on this guy. Now, turns out he knew his dad plays dad in high school. But, like, would they have taken Fernando? I'm sure he's going to get asked about it this week. Like, was it, if he would have said, I'll come to Miami over Indiana and not play with my brother, would you have taken Fernando Mendoza over Beck? Now, he's not, even if he would have, he's not going to admit that this week because he needs

Carson. But I do wonder inside the meeting, like Mario and his OC, who would they want it out of the two guys? I don't know. And in fairness, Fernando was. not viewed like this a cow. So he, no one, but this happens a lot. You go back to Joe Burrow. Listen, I actually think Joe Burrow. Joe Burrow is a great example. Not great physical traits. He's just an excellent player. I talked about this last night with Tony because I was thinking about this today. Some people on earth and whether it's obviously in sports, there are God-given talents

you need. You can't play wide receiver if you're slow and fat, right? So you've got to be athletic. You to have some speed traits. But clearly whether he played backyard football as a kid, developed it, I don't know, playing soccer, basketball, like just the open feel. His instincts to play football are elite. Tony was born to play football. He could play in an NFL game right now because I'm not saying

he'd be like an all-pro as an 18-year-old, but like his understanding of football, you go from that Notre Dame game to where he's at now. He's so much more comfortable playing against higher. It's like, God, he was like, I'm the best player on the field. And you see Mendoza, like his instincts very, very natural. And a lot of instincts, and it's like this in any industry,

some people, whether it's the training they've had from youth, they, whenever they get to the spot where they got to perform, they are just way better than whoever they're going up against. And this goes for, I think, any industry. And Tony last night, you just see it. Fernando Mendoza, like, I was kind of, born to play quarterback in like an NFL style offense because that's what it looks like. It looks like an NFL team and he's kind of the orchestrator.

I thought tonight he was, he looked like an NFL player. And the other guy who has shit going against him, I think really you go back these last two games because, listen, Texas Tech's quarterback not any good. That's why they're paying a ton of money. You see that they got a tech tech has to give Cincinnati a million dollars to buy the kid out. Oh, I didn't see that. a million dollar buyout. You know how Williams is going back now, but if he had left, they were going to do a buy, they were going to have to pay, they're going to pay a buyout

just to get them. So that's what they're willing to do to improve their quarterback. You said a million dollars? Yeah, that's easy. That's a little check. There you go. Here's a million and here's five for the player. I just thought he looked, overwhelms the it's just really difficult. He just looks like a college player. And that's what the Jets would look like all season long. And the difference is, it can derail your career. For every Sam Darnold, I think Troy Aikman talked about this on the Monday night game or a week ago,

a lot of guys get just destroyed and you aren't able to overcome it. And Dante Moore, like you get $5 million to go back or whatever, your team's loaded. My recommendation, because clearly money, you're going to make money either way. And a lot of people have been saying this. I think he would benefit a lot from going, I think it'd get ugly.

He could have one of those rookie seasons where it could be really, really bad. And I think you'd have to question watching him play these last two games. Is he just some locktop fight pick? You're kind of betting on the come and the potential of like this what it's going to be. I'm not betting on anything in Fernando. I just want Fernando to play like he's playing. And obviously the natural improvement. But to me, more watching these last two weeks is pretty risky.

And I think if you're Oregon in a weird way, you're kind of lucky, because now he might, you know, like just come back. But I think Fernando, he was already separated, but clearly separated tonight. And now I think the conversation goes, Hey, Dante, come back. And I think I wonder if that's why Ty Simpson, because I'm sure he could have made millions starting for somebody, right?

Even if he was leaving Alabama. But he's also, too, it's weird because of Ty that he, according to his dad, he didn't get a report that it was going to be a second round. He was going to be a first round guy. Well, also Carson Beck declared, Cam Moore declared. I hope he doesn't go through with it. The way he's talking in the video he even posted that he's going to go through it,

that seems like a mistake for his long-term NFL career. I agree with you for Dante Moore. And he could be one of those guys. You're saying Ty Simpson's dad said that they got a report that he's going to be a first rounder. Yeah, that he didn't get a second rounder. But I don't know if it was through you would know the name of the people that they go through to get those reports. It's like Bledo. Never really said the name of who they got the advice from.

So that's kind of suspect too. but when you're talking about back to Mendoza, I was going to ask you this question because I, you know, friends talk a lot of times about Mendoza being a one read guy or being in an RPO offense and only being on a one side feel read. What would your response be? Because to me, I see that, but I also see to your point an instinctive guy

where he knows where to go with the football. It doesn't seem like he goes to his first read and it's not there and he's flustering with his eyes. He goes to his first read and it's always there. So what would your argument be to that in terms of the RPO offense translating to the NFL, not necessarily the Raiders, but just in terms of, you know, I thought there were times tonight where he went off his first read to another guy. The last touchdown, I thought, was not his first read in the back of the end zone. Yeah. Today's show is

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And I'd say I thought the same thing Carson Beck had some moments last night. These are experienced players that, yeah, I mean, they have better players than a lot of times their opponents so they can just go to their first read. It's going to work. But I see the guy scanning the field. and like is it NFL in terms of like yeah your first receiver is going to get taken away a lot you know that he can trust when sarat or becker is the number one option he can go to him but i i think to me part of that is football IQ and the ability to like as you get thrust more and more in those situations how you go to that cousins went on that rant how the

NFL used to be consistent defenses. You just focus on half the field and just listen to what the coach calls. That's completely changed because everyone muddies the water with defense. So now it's become like a progression league. He basically go, he said one to five, but I mean, most people probably going like one to three, then check down or whatever. He clearly to me has that style. Honestly, Carson, but watching Carson Beck last night on TV on some slow motion stuff, he's doing that sometimes too. Because how do you get more comfortable? That's the the hardest part of the sport, right? Well, how do you accomplish the hardest thing of whatever you're doing?

You do it more. Those guys have played a lot of football. And you saw Dante Moore, who has not played that much. I don't count his first year at UCLA. It was a joke. By that point in time, Chip Kelly was in full mail-it-in mode, and he got thrust in because they had injuries. He was not supposed to play.

So it's like, that was a disaster. He's throwing picks, sixes left and right. This was his first year. really starting. And honestly, if we break it down, like, they did play some easy games because the Big Ten on the lower end was bad. So in some of his big games, he only has so many experience against good teams.

Tech, Indiana, Indiana again, they didn't play in the Big Ten championship. Washington, right? Who was solid, but I would say they were a nine and three team. It was farther away from the playoffs than closer to it in my opinion. USC wasn't very good on defense. So I would say that I just have a lot more question marks. And anytime you have a lot of question marks when it comes to a quarterback who's young, that's where you can get in some weird situations. Like to me he comes back, wouldn't you

immediately have him as a top two or three like Heisman frontrunner and a guy that is a potential number one overall pick in 2007? Historically, you know, I think back before what guys could pay you under the table and guys like him would stay, right, because he'd be a redshirt junior next year. But now there is pressure. I get it and start your clock. But the problem with starting your clock is he's already a multimillionaire. And any quarterback that's going to go high, you should be thinking I'm going to have a long career, right? I'm going to be, even if I'm not my homes, I'm going to be Jared Gough, Dak Prescott, Kirk Cousins. I'm going to get multiple contracts and be a decade long start. Derek Carr. Make hundreds of millions.

millions of dollars. If you told me Dante Moore went to the Jets, I'd be like, I would bet against it working, and it could just get really ugly. And listen, same thing could happen to Mendoza, and that's where I think there's going to be a lot of pressure. And I think the conversation is going to come up,

and we can talk about SIG as well, is like, should SIG go to the NFL? See that a lot. He makes, like, over $12 million. He is his own GM. Like any player on that roster, he picks. he hasn't had to lose a coordinator since he was at some school

that no one could point out on a map 20 years ago or 15 years he's had these two kids forever I think they're both in like they were late 30s and he's absolutely rolling he's going to win the national championship and he's 60, 4 years old with NIA he's got Mark Cuban

giving him money to fund the team and multiple other rich guys so like if I'm John SpyTech I would I'm sure if Tom Brady's like, we need to talk to this guy. I don't blame any NFL team for wanting to talk to him. But what can you offer him? It's like, okay, he can give him a couple more million dollars. He's already so rich. Like, at this point in time, he clearly, he was working for nothing for most of his career, right, relative to coaches.

So he's not driven by money. No, no way. And now he's just signed a $100 million contract. But he'd have to answer to people. Like if, let's say John Spitech wanted to hire him and he said, yeah, John Spitech, picks the players, right? And or whoever. And I got to answer to the owner. Who's he answering to an Indiana? He's like a god. He answers to nobody.

He's like, they're saving. His job, if they have the money to pay the players, is as good as an NFL job. The top jobs in college, if you're rolling with NIL, are NFL jobs because you run the payroll. You pick the players, even if you have a quote-unquote GM, all the big time. like Kirby Smart doesn't answer to his GM,

the GM answers to him. Dan Lanning, the GM answers Dan Lanning. Right? So to me, Sig has a better job than any NFL job when you'd have to work for a GM.

And it's pretty risky. He's never coached in college. Or I mean, in the pros. Yeah. So he's a lifetime college guy. I don't think, I think you get in trouble in life when, you know,

Colin used to have this saying back in his ESPN radio days, like, don't try to, make happier, happy, you know, or I fucked that up. It's like happy, happier. You know, basically the grass isn't always green. It's late. I haven't been drinking, I promise. Basically, the grass isn't always greener. And when you got something really, really good, you kind of got to ride it like secretary. And to me, he's, he's already turned down like Penn State

and stuff. To me, Indiana is a better job than NFL jobs when you work for yourself, essentially. Yeah, he wants to form his own Alabama. He wants to form his own Alabama. He wants to. wants to prove everyone wrong, which he already has, but on top of that, you're already getting more Transfer Portal guys. He's been one of the more coaches that hasn't really complained about this whole college football. And being how older he is, it's pretty impressive that he's investing in NIL, he's vesting in the portal and even recruiting these guys because there's a lot of older guys that, you know, haven't really adapted to that. And their schools are falling behind, like in Alabama that's trying to get more funding and stuff like that too. But I agree,

especially with the openings that they have in the NFL. I don't know if you're going to, I mean, you would know more than this. The discussion the other day, about if college coaches would go up to an NFL opening because the NFL, I don't want to say, potential candidates isn't as great as it was last year with Ben Johnson, Liam Cohen, and obviously that's a tough group to, you know, I guess be after. I just, yeah, I agree.

I think it would be dumb. And I even think the job specifically is the Raiders because he'd get to just go with Mendoza. But they have SpyTech, who has worked his whole career and you help build the bucks to get this job. like part of being a GM is you pick the players and you got Brady above him you just got there's a lot going on in NFL teams owners tell you what to do it's like no one's none of these

guys cutting checks as long as you're rolling no one told Sabin what to do for 15 years right no one tells Dan Hurley what to do at Yukon no one tells these guys that are rolling like Sark gets pressure that's what happens when you don't win he wins the national chance championship, to me, he'd be untouchable for forever at Indiana. Now, you could also make the argument, it doesn't get any better in this. So you could strike while the iron's hot and just take your shot, and you could always come back in a couple years if it fails. But he just, didn't he just sign? Because when they were talking about Mendoza, when he said, my brother's going to be really good next year,

didn't they just sign a quarterback in the transfer portal? Like Mendoza's not going to start next year. Josh Hoover, TCU, he's one of the top quarterbacks. He was kind of at one point going to be a first round pick this year. He kind of fell off towards the back end of the season. but he's going to start. He's more taller. Didn't they just sign like 10 guys in the portal, Indiana?

Yeah, they got the number one wider, number one or number four wide receiver, Nick Marsh. They got a three-star guy at a Boston College that had a lot of reps over there. That's a stud. They got an edge rusher from K State. They got a bunch of more defensive line. Yeah, they're not going anywhere. But I was, to your point about Signetti,

like they're a pre-s, even with losing the number one pick and Sarat and some of these guys, if they win it, even though they have a brand new team. They're a preseason, what, top five? Yeah, I looked at their schedule. Could they play preseason one? They play Ohio State, USC, and Michigan are their toughest games. So they're not playing Oregon.

You're not playing old Penn State. I guess they're kind of down. But they used to be one of the powers of the Big Ten. Maybe they'll be even better next year with all those Iowa State quarter. They'll be better next year, I think. Iowa State players. But in terms of Signetti, I want to ask you this, him in Indiana, I know that's one of the greatest turnarounds in college football.

Where would you rank this turnaround in terms of sports? The only other one I could think of would be the Pats and the Patriots with Bill Belichick. But the quick turnaround with the team like Indiana doing that is just, I feel like it's the greatest turnaround we've seen in sports personally. And they're going to make another Hoosiers movie, which honestly might be better than the first one, because no one even saw this coming, 150 to one preseason to win the national championship. That's ridiculous. I think it's the greatest.

You want a little confession here? Never seen Hoosiers? Probably never will. What? I'll watch the football version. It'd be, like a lot of times in pro sports when it turns around. Let's use the Patriots, for example. They found this kid in the sixth round named Tom Brady,

and they had a bunch of guys on the roster that, you know, Mike Vrable had been a backup special teams, practice squad guy from the Steelers. They just had random guys, and then it just kind of comes together because Brady and Belich, check. The Warriors, you know, when Steph Curry got there, the Warriors were basically like the Arizona Cardinals. I mean, with less recent history than the Cardinals. I mean, the Cardinals, what? They went to the NFC championship game in like 14 or 13, 15 maybe, and they went to a

Super Bowl in 08. The Warriors were dog shit. Most of the 80s, definitely most of the 90s, all the 2000s and one guy completely changed your franchise. LeBron did that in basketball. It happens in basketball if you get the right guy. I don't think there's really a parallel to this. It's also hard to parallel college sports to what we do now. It wouldn't have been possible what he's doing. He could have got Mendoza because he could have been a grad transfer, right, because he had his degree. But all the other guys, like the mayor, I guess the Maryland kid might have been a grad transfer too. But some of the guys you're taking from the Mac or whatever. they would have to sit out of here.

And that goes for all these teams. You know, Miami's no different. They take portal guys. All these good teams take portal guys. Keywon Lacey, I had forgot, and I was looking last night, the stud running back the Missouri has, they got him to replace Lacey because Lane stole him. So it's just a weird time,

but he's just done it so much better. And also, unlike Lane, I guess they get credit because of Trent But it feels like Indiana's got like 10 Trinidad's, doesn't it? Yeah. That's what's the cool part. That's what the awesome part about last night for a split second when you thought, this Division 2 quarterback is going to take this team to the playoffs.

I would have said that's one of the coolest stories in the history of college football. But also, it's not really, it wasn't even, I guess you could always go from like D2 or D1A straight up. You didn't have to sit out. You just couldn't transfer D1 to D1 without sitting out a year. So like when I was in Fresno State, we got a guy from Oregon, he had to sit out a year. But you could take a guy from D1A or D2 and they could come right to you. So technically Trinidad 10 years ago could have done the same thing. But they wouldn't have been looking, right?

You didn't scout the country for available players like you do in the NFL until the last couple years. So, yeah, it's remarkable. I don't know. I just don't even think there's a parable. parallel to it, really. I mean, you see it in pro sports, but then you look back, it's like, oh, yeah, the, the Giants sucked, and then they got Willie Mace. You know, or it's like, they got Buster Posey and Tim Linscombs, like Hall of Famers. That happens in pro sports all the time. In college, it's just sometimes you get lightning

in a bottle, and we've had individual moments, like Auburn, they get Cam, boom, win the national championship. But it was just one year over, and then a couple years later, what's his name, Chiswick's Fire, you know, it just, this feels more sustainable. I don't know. I don't think there's, it's hard to compare to years past pre-NIL or transfer portal.

I think it's impossible to compare. So your point about this wouldn't even exist. When you were talking about Trinidad Chambliss, when I was that media day for the Fiesta and I asked him,

I was like, how did you get recruited to the SEC? Because if you're a Division 2 player, okay, like yeah, I'm going to go in the transfer portal, but I'm going to look at, you know, a max school,

I'm going to look at maybe a lower power four school. No way in my mind. Like, yeah, you believe in yourself to be an SEC quarterback, but no way in my mind. mind, I'm going to get a full scholarship to go to Ole Miss.

And he actually said he was about to commit to Temple. That was his only offer he had. And Charlie Weiss found his highlights on Twitter. So to your point about the old age, about social media not being there and Twitter being there, like that's what's so great about this era and what makes the story even greater about Trinidad is Charlie Weiss were just scrolling on Twitter one day, finds this guy's highlights, schedules him for a visit, commits, wasn't even supposed to play for this season.

Austin Simmons gets hurt. He propels in. But I... So they were... looking for a backup quarterback. They didn't even recruit him as a start. Yeah, he said he was supposed to be a part of a running package. He wasn't even supposed to be like the guy at all, which makes you wonder how good Austin Simmons looked at one point. He looked at a little rusty in that Kentucky game. And then he got hurt and, you know, Chambers obviously didn't look back. But I just think it's so remarkable. It even opens up the landscape of now people are going to look at Division 2. People were looking at FCS. Why would I not want to go to Ferris State who just won the national championship again and look at their quarterback, especially with the low value of that versus going. and getting a $6 million, $7 million quarterback and not even making the playoffs. That's where you could take a...

That's where you could do the money ball, Billy Bean. Right. If you find the best player, like the MVP of the Mac, let's say that guy's a defensive end, and he's going to end up being, like, this guy's going to end up being a third rounder. Well, that guy costs a million dollars because all the good teams are going to want the guy, right?

But Signetti, and I think one thing that differs from Nick Saban is Nick Saban didn't deal with small dudes. and you saw him and I like 5-9 corner, boom, the kick and play. And he values more competitive. Like, he's a great evaluator because he's finding these guys at these lower levels and I think he puts a premium.

And this is where I was texting with a buddy tonight they're like, wait till Indiana starts getting five stars. We were texting about it too. I think he would want a specific type five-star like individual person. Like, you better fit what he wants or else it's not, he's not, you better be like once you get to Oregon or Georgia like what they're doing

their standard is so high that like they probably take some guys that they don't love but the guy's just such a good talent it's worth the risk I don't know if six doing that now maybe eventually he'll have to do that if he loses a couple times Ohio State or Oregon in a couple years but I think his evaluation of like the mental toughness chip on a shoulder guy. He's like, it's weird. They feel like the, like the buttoned up much better version of Boise in their heyday, like 15 years ago, but they're clearly better than that because they're killing everybody.

And they're a power four team. So it's, I don't think there is a parallel. I think they're just their own story. And every once in a while, you just have like, this is just one of the crazy stories of all time. You know, it's just like one of those stories to me that in like, 20, 30 years, they'll be a movie. Oh, 100%.

Like Rudy. But it won't, you couldn't talk about this team like they're Rudy because I'm watching them just kick the crap at everybody. So they're not Rudy. They're better than you. But they're guys. Oregon probably has more guys on that field that will get drafted higher

over the next three or four years, right? I looked at... Now, some of them are young, but still. I looked at Indiana's recruiting class for next year for 2026. and the rank 34th, 22 commits, 05 stars, 7 4 stars. So even like next year, Cignetti's prioritizing Portal more than he is the high school recruiting, but he's still able to get those four star players.

It's remarkable. And then when we were having the discussion about Chambliss, about him being a division two guy that didn't make a lot of money, kind of a low-risk, high-reward thing. On the flip side with Carson Beck, you got to give a lot of credit for Miami. He got a lot of shit in the off-season because they made $4 million, $5 million.

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Pressbox access on my pass But I did not And I just had pre and post to be on the field I wasn't allowed to be on the field During I didn't have that like Lanyard or whatever So I ended up watching it from the 200 level I just found a seat and just sat there

And watched the entire time Plus the press box at State Farm Stadium I'm sure you've been a lot of press boxes. When they have that glass in front, you can't hear the noise of the fans. And I'm one of those people, when I watch football and big moments happen, I like to kind of react.

Like I'm just kind of a geek where... You're a man of the people. If there's a big hit or, you know, explosive play by Chambliss, like Kiwan Lacey's 74 yarder. I want to yell and scream and like, what just happened? So I watched it in the 200 level.

We don't belong with the Big Js. You know, they're a little quieter. They're going to be a little more professional. They're all typing and stuff. They're all like looking at it. They're trying to write. in the articles and stuff like that. But, no, yeah, I watched it in the 200 level.

I was just... So you just found a random open seat? There was a lot of open seats. Yeah, there was a lot of open seats. In the 200 level, which is like the club section. Also had a buddy. That's like the best level to watch a football game. Yeah.

I was over by like the Ole Miss End zone, but State Farm Stadium, anywhere you sit, I thought obviously doesn't get a good reputation of where the location is or how good the football team is, the Arizona Cardinals. But if you want to, in terms of like, final four national championship college football playoff games, I think it's one of the better stadiums that you can have a venue at.

Obviously, the grass is pretty shitty, which last night it wasn't slippery at all. But it was a couple times. A couple running backs slipped. Fletcher slipped on one. But it was better than the Super Bowl. But still, is that the owner for Arizona Cardinals going cheap grass? Oh, Bidwell? Yeah, he's cheap.

Yeah, he's super cheap. Never going to win with Bidwell as the owner of this team. But it just felt like it felt intense. obviously the stars on the sideline seeing all these Miami legends you walk around and I'm walking around on the sideline you see Ray Lewis Michael Phelps and you got Cam Warren Jackson dart Edron James Andre Johnson like Reggie Wayne like this girl that uh works for the fiesta bowl after the game she's like yeah who are those guys over there I'm like oh yeah that's Andre Johnson Edron James Reggie Wayne like legends hall of famers she's like well you should go over

and take photos with them I was like no way like there's no way I want to bother them or take a photo next thing I look she goes over there and asks them and I I got a photo with Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne, and Andrew James, which I'll probably frame. But it was just like the magnitude of that game and seeing how many stars and alum base, which is cool with this new landscape of college football, seeing how many alma mater guys. And obviously it's Miami. They haven't been to this point since what, 2001, 2003. Both sides traveled really well.

Obviously, the game was intense too. But overall, it's a great atmosphere. And obviously got the interview with Michael Irvin, which for the program had to do it. So that was cool. He, yeah, those guys, me and Shane were talking last night. I do think the amount Mario might need to cut off these guys. There are going to be so many Miami alumni that I would imagine they take up both sidelines.

Yeah. And a lot of them, you don't realize, like, Michael Irvin's like 58 years old. You know, even Ray Lewis. I mean, Ray Lewis retired 12 years ago, and he was old when he was like 40 when he retired. These guys, their heyday, late 80s, mid-90s, you know, the rock. It is going to be, for college football, Indiana, obviously is going to be this all-time story going into this game. But there's going to be like a Laker, Yankee field of Miami with the stars and the famous people, especially being in Miami. for the first time, I told Maria tonight, you know what, Hard Rock wanted me and Colin to do something at the game.

I think Colin is going. I obviously, with the baby, I'm not going to be able to make it. Typically on this type stuff, like I've been lucky over my life and been to a lot of big NFL, Super Bowls, NBA Finals. Like, I've been there, done that. Again, I never take it for granted having the ability. But I was like, if I can't go, whatever. I kind of got a little fomo. Like, maybe it'd be more like a month ago

and I could have gone to see Miami, Indiana, and been there. I think it's going to be pretty cool. From a storyline standpoint and just, like, interest standpoint, I feel as if you told me it was like Oregon, Ohio State, or like, Texas, Georgia, like, whatever, right? This is pretty freaking cool. I mean, there's no way around it.

Did you see the interview with Mario tonight? Like, you could tell he's pretty on edge. edge. Like he's, he feels like, you know, Sabin was ribbing him a little bit, but you can tell, like, there's a lot in the line. Yeah. Even with SVP last night, too, SVP, he was asking him, like, he's like, I'm not going to say the U is back. And Chris Ball's like, oh, here we go, don't say it. And SVP kind of got pissed. He's like, I'm professional. Like, trust me, I'm not going to put you in that situation. He almost seems, I mean, Signetti's intense on the sideline, but Mario Cristobal almost seems more intense where it's like, I feel like in this game, he's just,

going to overthink and he's going to do something stupid. But he's been so good throughout the playoffs. He's been so good throughout the season. I don't want to diminish him at all. But he almost seems like over intense. On the sideline, you saw that video too of his assistant coach hugging him and he told him to get off of him, which I understand that circumstance because there's 18 seconds left. You have Trinidad Chambliss who's been dice in your defense and almost had an opportunity to win that game. But he, I don't know if it's him being a former player. And you're right. Maybe it's the alum seeing those guys lined up on both sides. That kind of just adds to the pressure of this. He's an intense.

I had a buddy that was almost became his GM at when he was at Oregon and just was like, well, he's a grinder. He's not a big happy-go-lucky guy. I mean, Signetti openly talks about it's weird. You would think he'd be like a raging dick and they're 20 hours. Like he's got the Bruce Ariens. I tell my guys, we 7.30 and we're out of here like after dinner. Like have a life. Go see your kids.

If you can't get it done, then you shouldn't be working for me. So I think they're a little They feel the same When they're just standing there with their scowl I think they're way different personalities Now part of it goes back to Mario I think chip on his shoulder Is like an overachieving player

You know I think this goes back And kind of the Miami culture back then He was like probably one of the worst guys on the team And earned his spot And became like part of this huge You know what they've become And then he gets a shot Fails goes to Saban resurrects his career

Goes to Orrin's career goes to Oregon, does well, but everyone still kind of nitpicks them, right? Like, one thing, let's end on this. Dan Lannin kind of gets a pass. You know, a lot of people we talk about passes, Mario does not get a pass. Some of that's brought it on him,

done some crazy play calls, fumbles. You know, guys like Lane, Sark, those guys do not get passes. Kirby gets a pass because he went back-to-backnatties, so no one holds a loss against him. Dan's been rolled now. I mean, lost some big games to DeBoer. Obviously, the last two playoffs.

Ohio State blew them out, got blown out tonight. That Texas Tech game was pretty close. If they just would have had, if you just gave like Texas Tech Trinidad Chambliss, Oregon could have lost last week or whatever they played 10 days ago, right? So listen, I'm pro Dan Lanning. But, I mean, I think that he gets to fly under a little bit of the radar. They're in Eugene, right?

I think that's part of it. I think Oregon and Washington, in a weird way, get to fly under the radar more than most programs, especially Oregon. I mean, they're consistent top five team. Like, that would not be the case. If this was the equivalent of like Auburn or Florida or something, and they were

top five program but getting blown out, like it would just, I'm not saying fire the guy. I'm just saying he just doesn't get criticized ever. And it's, they got worked. Yeah, 35 to seven. Yeah, especially with how much. always got new coordinators coming in. Yeah, especially with how much elite talent they have.

You talked earlier about Indiana and how they're obviously going to have Mendoza and probably a lot of second round guys. Kenyon Sadee's going to be a first round guy. They got a couple defensive linemen that could be a first round talent. And you're obviously conquering the West Coast too. And you go against a guy in Kurt Signetti who's done it for two years when you're about to be entering the year five next year with back-to-back years where you get blown out.

I mean, that's one of the largest deficits, largest margins of victories or loss, I should say, that Oregon's ever had. And the spread being three points. Like, you just thought it was going to be a close game. I don't know where you go. I think Dan Lane is going to be a great coach. It's just kind of one of those things that he's kind of the maturation of coaching. It's going to take probably longer than a lot of Oregon fans expect versus other places.

What there's going to be is there's going to be pressure these next couple years with this loaded roster, you know, to really kind of hammer it. Next year's the year. Next year would be the year. If I would say Oregon would have win the national championship. Especially if Dante comes. Then making the semis this year was a really good, really good season for them, especially with how many injuries they had. Totally. Yeah.

at the wide receiver. I just think any time you get blown out by a conference opponent that you, I mean, could have beat. I know you lost by 10, but I mean, they went toe to toe with them early in the season, and then you watch them now. Now they've had injuries. But I do think,

I think these next two years people are going to want to be like, can we win a national championship? Because that's, you know, that's one thing that has eluded Oregon. But other than that, yeah, I mean, fun couple days. And now we got one more game. How long it take you to get?

home last night. That's my big issue with the place. It's just such a pain to get out of there. There, it took me 54 minutes because it was raining and you know how people in Arizona when it rains, they feel like it's ice or snow. So they drive like 20 miles an hour to get back because I left there at like midnight.

It took me like 45 minutes. The traffic was already gone. Just rolling on the 101. So when you went out to your car last night, everyone was gone. Yeah, everybody was gone. It was dark. Parking lot was empty. Stadium was empty. It's always nice too. I hate the traffic. when you leave one of those games, especially as a fan,

like dealing with that type of traffic. But I was going to ask you real quick, what would your prediction be for the line? Like, what would you project the line for Indiana, Miami to be? Without even, I have the line. If Hard Rock hired John Middletoff and gave me my own little book, I would send it at a touchdown. Seven and a half.

That's what it is. Seven and a half. I think it seems accurate after what you saw tonight. and their starting corner who's good got the targeting call he's out for the first half you know i know messador came back in the game but he got his arm snapped so we'll have to see Mario when he was being interviewed tonight by the game day guys i think part of his face was like you know we're pretty banged up we're pretty banged up i think they're pretty banged up he even talked about i mean that detackle that tried to go for him

last night his leg didn't work after like two plays and i'd like limp off the field so they are the one concerning part for them, it's why I love them last night, I was like, I think Miami's going to win this game by 10. I thought four would absolutely dominate them. You didn't really notice them. Yeah.

Like, and part of it, Chambliss can move, but so can Mendoza. Like, their pass rush did not smother maybe Ole Miss. I mean, they did, you know, only lose to Georgia in the SEC. Maybe their own lines probably better than they get credit for because, I mean, Perkins was the best. best pass rush around the field last night out of the two teams. Chambers didn't get touched against Georgia either.

So he might honestly be good at just evading those tacklers. But if you're Mario, and he also, he hyped on, you talked about it last night, the whole targeting ejection thing, which is another discussion another day. That's like the worst rule joke in college football. But if you're Mario, you had 42 minutes of possession against Ole Miss, it seems like you're going to do the same thing against Indiana because you're not going to be able to stop this offense, how two-dimensional are? Yeah, but you can't do that against them.

Their defense is too good. And they play like that. that's the other thing you know so they play even if you do well on the ground they play just like you you would even at most you're trying to you're trying to you're just trying to even be even with them like what was the i bet i'm looking at night time possession it probably got skewed in the second half but it was 31 to 28 but i bet the first half i mean i guess indiana scored on the pick six so their offense wasn't even on the field for the first like eight minutes of the game game because then Oregon drove.

So, yeah, I mean, I, I'd be stunned to bring me one, honestly. If Miami wins, I'll end on this. If Miami wins, Mario should be a, should be a maid man and get a lifetime contract. Because that's, he's got no business winning this game, which is crazy to say. Miami in the national championship has no business beating Indiana, but that's where we are in 2025. Okay, Jackson, head off to bed on this crazy, or head out on the town. I mean, it's 10 o'clock.

You go hit the town. Do whatever you do, because I'm going to go to bed. So have a good night. I'm glad you enjoyed the game and found a seat in the 200 level. That's life hack. Football, unlike basketball or baseball, much better in the middle rows than it is close. And obviously, the noseblee is hard to see.

But any time that you can get somewhat to 300, depending on the stadium, best place to watch football game by far. And you just got to act like, you just got to act like you've been there before. You could buy a 400 ticket and you could walk to the 200. There's no security guard that's going to check your ticket. Just going to open the door, find an open seat.

If someone comes over and says, hey, that's my seat, then move. It's just that easy. But no, I will be staying here. You know how many country clubs I've hit golf balls at the range over the course of my life by just tucking in my shirt, putting on a hat and just going out to the range? No one noticed you. Act like you've been there. Life's not that complicated.

I'd like you've been there. And no, I'm not hitting the town. I will be staying here and probably editing a social tonight and going to bed, maybe, you know, playing some Colla Duty, playing some 2K, and ripping the good old Penske and heading to bed. Adios. Adios. The volume. Hey guys, it's us.

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