The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Reaction to Sam Darnold & Seahawks DOMINATING Commanders on SNF + NFL Week 9

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Former NFL scout John Middlekauff is reacting LIVE immediately following the Week 9 Sunday Night Football matchup between Sam Darnold & the Seattle Seahawks vs. Jayden Daniels & the Washington Commanders. John kicks off by reacting to Commanders QB Jayden Daniels arm injury suffered late in the 4th quarter in a loss to Sam Darnold & the Seahawks. John then gives flowers to Seahawks general manager John Schnieder for putting together an elite team. John then reacts to Josh Allen and Buffalo Bills win vs. Patrick Mahomes & the Kansas City Chiefs. Next, John reacts to the Minnesota Vikings win vs. the Detroit Lions and their young QB JJ McCarthy's performance. Following that, John reacts to the Pittsburgh Steelers "must-win" game vs. the Indianapolis Colts and the defense's performance. Next, John reacts to Chicago Bears QB Caleb Williams performance vs. the Cincinnati Bengals & debates if the Green Bay Packers are a serious team after their loss to the Carolina Panthers. John also offers some quick thoughts on the Denver Broncos win vs. the Houston Texans. John then reacts to a crazy College Football Week 10 slate, including USC's win vs. Nebraska and Oklahoma's win over Tennessee. John then explains why he believes that Arizona State head coach Kenny Dillingham should be a hot candidate for head coach openings. John then reacts to Miami QB Carson Beck's press conference, and wraps up by previewing the Sunday Night Football matchup between the Arizona Cardinals vs. Dak Prescott & the Dallas Cowboys.  04:15 - Seahawks-Commanders 18:43 - Seattle Seahawks GM John Schnieder 26:40 - Chiefs-Bills 31:13 - Vikings-Lions 32:51 - Colts-Steelers 36:26 - Bears-Bengals 40:17 - Panthers-Packers 43:35 - Broncos-Texans 45:14 - CFB Week 10 49:14 - Arizona State head coach Kenny Dillingham 52:42 - Miami QB Carson Beck 55:05 - Hard Rock Bet MNF: Cardinals-Cowboys Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is going on, everybody? Hopefully everyone's enjoying November. And if you're Sam Darnold, you probably have a massive smile on your face because everyone now considers you an awesome player. And if you're Jaden Daniels, while I'm recording this, I don't have any new information, you're probably in some pain because you're elbow was pointing the wrong way. So Jane Daniels gets injured, Seattle rolls, Donald's contract and John Schneider,

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that was pretty devastating. I'm excited because it was a great day and a much more entertaining day of NFL football than last week. And it feels like the last couple weeks. Maybe it was just, we had better matchups. Regardless, start to finish, much more entertaining game. I do want to start with the way that thing essentially ended. it was with Jaden Daniels elbow pointing the other way. Not a doctor, just a state school kid with a couple meaningless degrees in my closet. But I've been around football long enough to know that wasn't good. And I've probably heard a lot.

And that really sucks. But there are going to be people, I'm sure, over the next 24 hours. And if you're listening to this, maybe if you've heard on other shows or television shows, what was Dan Quinn doing still having Jaden Daniels in the game? they're down 38 to 7 for those of you that aren't math majors you could have three touchdowns and three extra points

and still be down a touchdown so it was the fourth quarter they were not coming back they had no chance why is he in the game I would say one thing the NFL consistently does unlike basketball where when you're getting blown out

you don't put your starters back in the game when they come out in the third quarter for the fourth quarter they sit You play your scrubs and you play out the game. Baseball is a great example. Obviously in the playoffs, the leverage of the pitchers, you're quick to go to the bullpen, but even in the regular season, regardless of the time of the year, if I have a pitcher who is just getting shelled and we're down seven, eight, nine, ten runs,

I'm yanking them out. We don't just let him sit in there and take in the misery regardless of my situation with injuries. once there's a certain amount of runs on the board. That's not really the way football works. Because even the drive before, when they were up 38 to 7, I thought to myself, I wonder if they're going to yank Sam Darnold out of this game. And the answer is they did not.

I personally would have the backup in. That's not really how football coaches think. Even if when something catastrophic happens, like potentially with Jaydon Daniels tonight, which it can't really be catastrophic because it's not a lower-border. injury and it's not his throwing arm. So even if it is, you know, he misses the rest of the season, you would have chose that body part over the right arm or either leg for a quote-unquote major injury. But it's going to come up constantly wisy in the game and the answer is because they're

just always in the game. Now, I'm also of the new school belief is do we just always have to do something because that's the way we've always done it. And the answer should always be, hell no, we should always look to change. But in football, it is very, very difficult for the starter to get pulled in these games, i.e. Seattle, who just had their starting quarterback in, who's dominating the league right now in a game that they were up, you know, three, almost four scores. So I'm going to give them, I guess technically four scores if you're not counting extra points. I'm going to give them some grace and understanding of why they're doing it. That being said, it's awful.

And Washington is having one of the worst seasons coming off a great season I can never remember. I mean, their team just looks hideous. And it's one thing that's like, oh, they've had a lot of injuries. They've had some. But their defense just looks legitimately slow. And big picture, maybe it helps, especially if Jaden can't play, to end up going five wins. Because this is not the NBA. they're not trying to lose any of these games.

They are 3 and 6, and they're literally doing everything possible, working 90-hour weeks as a coaching staff, players busting their ass to try to win games. So all their effort, like, they're not trying to have this record, but you watch their team, they're the oldest in the NFL. Now, to me, that, when you say that out loud, like, what's their average age, it's 37? It's not that different, you know, the oldest team from the youngest team.

All these guys are between 25 and 27, on the averages. But regardless, they fall under the category of oldest team in the NFL. But they have to get a better defense, and they got to find a way to keep Jane Daniels healthy. It's pretty simple. Now, the one thing with Jaden that you would say is, like, you watch Sam Darnold's resurrection. His style is pretty easy to see why it works, right? He's a pocket quarterback who has mobility. He's a very modern pocket quarterback, right? He's a guy that can move, but he wants to throw. But he doesn't put himself in that many compromising situations.

And the way that you run an offense for Jaden Daniels, whether you're up 38 to 7 or the game's tied at 20, he is going to be in situations even though he's proven last year to be an excellent pocket passer because of his legs being a huge threat,

like he gets in some compromised situations. What happened tonight? It was on a ball that he was running with. And the linebacker did what? Slammed his ass into the ground. Why? It's the NFL. And those guys are all fast, physical and violent on the other side of the field, especially Seattle. So I just, I'm not going to crush them for having them in the game.

It's just part of the way the league works, especially at the quarterback position, it's very rare that they get pulled in those situations, even though we can all agree it's kind of stupid and we should change. But man, this season, I think now if you're just hoping best cases, you just keep losing games and you get a really high pick. and you're able to draft impact players. Maybe you get a top 6-7 pick, and all of a sudden you get one of the best pass rushers in the draft.

You desperately need. And maybe with your second round pick, you take another defensive player, and then immediately your defense is faster and more physical. Because ultimately, offensively, I think you're going to be fine with the play caller, the quarterback, being able to find guys on your offense,

you know, in terms of drafting, in low-price-free agents. Like, that's the least of my worst. But defensively, like, yeah, the X's and the O's matter, but do you think Seattle's good on defense just because Mike McDonald is a schematic genius? Pretty sure I look around, it's like, they got dudes. They got multiple guys on the defensive lines.

Like, I want that. I was just talking before we hit record. I'm like, Leonard Williams looks like Trent Williams play a defensive line run around when he was 30 years old. I mean, you talk about a physical freak, all their DBs, and I want to transition into that. The craziest part about the Sam Darnold contract is in the NFL, like a guy that could be a pro bowler at quarterback, does not hit free agency when they're at a point to get a multi-year contract. Right, like Sam Darnold last year or Daniel Jones this year, there are the guys that are bridge quarterback.

who resurrect their career. But most guys that get 100, 150, $200 million contract at quarterback are guys that are on teams that drafted them. Now, we can agree to disagree for the non-Mahomes, Alan, Lamar Jackson, kind of that kind of crew. Everyone else, we hotly debate their contract. Jordan Love, Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy, you just go around the league, right? Jalen Hurts, you name it.

We're all arguing. But that team has drafted that player. They know them really well, and they want to keep them. Tuah, you name it. It's pretty rare that a guy like Kirk Cousins is on the free agent market. And the Atlanta Falcons gave him four years, $180 million, and $100 million, technically $90 million guaranteed. But because he was on the roster again,

he's going to have two-year $100 million contract from the Atlanta Falcons. That's what Kirk Cousins has got $100 million in two years from them. So that was kind of of a guy that you think. Now, it turns out he was shot, the Achilles, he's never been the same, and he'll never be the same. His career was over. But they thought, like, this guy could be a fringe pro bowl guy. That was the going right. Yet Sam Darnold, the stink of those last two games was so bad.

It's like, yeah, he had two bad games. One was horrendous against the Lions. The Rams, a lot of things went wrong, kind of got pinned on him. I have no problem putting the Lions game on him. I've seen Peyton Manning throw a bunch of picks in a playoff game against him. New England. Like, I've seen Tom Brady have a bad playoff game. We've seen Aaron Rogers shit the bed in playoff moments. We've seen it all over the league happen to a lot of guys. Welcome to the NFL. And I'm not saying Sam Donald is Aaron Rogers, Peyton Manning, or Tom Brady,

by any means. But my point is, because his sample size was just last season, everyone's like, see, that's actually what he is. Everything that we saw for the majority of the season, outlier. The last two games, that's Sam Donald. And I've watched Sam Donald this year just look like the Sam Donald that we saw last year, and maybe he's just a good player. But Sam Donald got a three-year contract for $100 million and $55 million guaranteed. That is insane. I mean, think about the wide receivers in the NFL. Brandon Ayyuk, Terry McCorrin, you start T. Higgins. All these guys went healthy, really good players. But a quarterback, which we know is infinitely more important than any other position on offense.

Left tackle, wide receiver, and these guys are making $30, $35 million all over the league. Yet if you get a good quarterback, whether that's a rookie or whether that's a 15th year guy, if he's playing at a Pro Bowl level, your team is a lock to win double-digy games. It's borderline impossible. Joe Burrell last year had to have one of the worst defenses we've ever seen, and he still got him to nine wins, right? Because he was that good. And his defense couldn't stop me or you.

So when you look at the Sam Donald contract, it is a chance in just true free agency. When you factor in the position quarterback, which is so much more important than every other position, it's got to go down early on through half the seasons, like one of the more impressive contracts you'll ever see. And kind of crazy looking back is like, how was his market not better? Like if everyone knew Sam Donald was going to be this good, how many teams that didn't sniff around on them would have been all over the guy? How would you even argue that that's not a good idea? And it also shows you as Sam Darnold with chaotic, poorly coached organizations, the Jets, Carolina, everyone laughed at them.

Then he got with stable organizations with good offensive coordinators, the Niners, Kyle, the Vikings, Kevin O'Connell, and now Seattle and a Kubiak and Mike McDonald. And look, for the last two and a half years, all everyone has said that has been around Sam Donald. Niners, Vikings, and now Seattle, is just like, this guy's a stud. What is going on here?

How did everyone fuck this up? And it's just as a fan of football. And obviously, as a West Coast used to be the Pac-12, I always kind of pull for those guys from those programs. Sam's been an easy guy to pull for because of how much everyone liked the guy. I was on a, me and Colin got into a conversation. tonight. He thought, you know, he's clearly a Stafford guy. Could Stafford jump Rogers if he wins another Super Bowl?

And like the all-time Pantheon. I think it would be hard. I mean, I truly believe Rogers, like 10-year run with the Packers, one of the best players I've ever seen any sport. Stafford's damn good, but even if he wins one more Super Bowl than Aaron, I think Aaron's career was better. Now, there are variables to come into play. What if the Matt Stafford? drafted out of Georgia, six foot two and a half, 230 pounds, rocket arm, smart, high character, tough motherfucker gets drafted by the Packers. What's his career look like? And that's a huge part of football, right? So much of it is out of our control. Yet, in so many other aspects of life, like, if you don't like where you work, you can quit, you can go do something else. If you don't

like your girlfriend or she doesn't like you, or your wife or whatever, like, you guys can break up, you guys can get a fresh start. You can go meet someone else. You can go find another job. But as a quarterback, when I get drafted, like, especially if I'm a really good prospect, I get drafted a alliance. And the best thing that ever happened, Aaron Rogers,

was Mike Nolan and the 49ers, chose Alex Smith and not Aaron Rogers. And then Aaron Rogers ended up with the Green Bay Packers. And 20 plus years later, he's known as one of the greatest players of all time, changed the course of his life. Where Matt Stafford was with the biggest joke franchise, probably like in modern day NFL history.

Some of these other franchises recently have thrown their hat in the ring, but like that version of the Lions was a joke. Say it all the time. Best two players, franchise history, both quit at 30. Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, I'm done. I mean, it's one thing. One guy happens. Patrick Willis quit early.

Listen, sometimes you're injured, you're over it, you're rich, you're just, team sucks, you just had enough. Two guys, it's kind of a trend. So I just think Sam Donald, but ultimately the thing with Stafford is like, You see him in L.A., there is no disputing. If he had had a Sean McVeigh his entire career, probably talking about him as one of the great players of all time.

I don't even think that's really debatable. Now, Sam Donald's lucky. Like, he didn't change, get the right guy at 36. This isn't Rich Gannon, who I think resurrected his career like mid to late 30s, right? I think like 33-ish. He got with Gruden, Al Davis, and the Raiders. Had like the great three- or four-year run of his career.

One an NFL MVP. I bet he's always. said, I'm sure he said this publicly, imagine if that would have happened to me at 26, right? Imagine if I would have got that shot at 24, 25 years old. Sam Donald's lucky. He gets it at what, 27, 28 with a real organization,

with a real plan, with a real coach, and a superstar GM. Now, I just want to give this guy, we spend a lot of time, and I'm guilty of this, you know, giving coaches, reach arounds, telling them how great they are and you know how big of an impact they have sometimes GMs fly under the radar a little bit not name howie roseman who makes a trade every other week I think the run

john Schneider's on is underappreciated right now obviously the sam darnold for gino smith swapout speaks for itself that's that's a that's a home run you know into the into the third level like that's a bomb but there was a play tonight where leonard williams was just chasing just chasing. I think he ended up kind of, you know, making probably like half a tackle. Other guys were in on it. But you just saw him move. And I was thinking, once upon a time when I was doing local radio, the big argument was like, who should the Raiders take? Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams. And Reggie McKenzie, the general manager at the time, ended up going with Amari Cooper, which looked really smart for a long period of time. And the reason they didn't was because

Leonard Williams' shoulder in the pre-draft process, a lot of question marks. What do you do? need surgery, would he not? One guy goes to the Jets. The other guy goes to like the up-and-coming Raiders at the time, who Derek Carr, Michael Crabtree, has just a great start to his career. I think like two months ago, Amari Cooper just quit,

just retired, just over football. I'm watching Leonard Williams a decade later still play like he's trying to earn a contract. Guy looks like a monster. John Snyder traded a second round pick for Leonard Williams at 29 years old. That takes balls. But not only does that move take balls to make, I mean, older player for pick 47, like, we know he's pretty good, but that's, that's pretty risky. Leonard Williams looks like one of the best defensive linemen in the league.

That, that trade looks genius. And then you just look around like Jackson Smith. He, I think he ended up, I don't know how many yards he ended up with, but I'm pretty sure this season he is, over a thousand yards. And 819, I don't think this is updated. Maybe he's not over 1,000 yards yet. He was like 70 yards short during that game. He had another 100-yard game, which breaks the Seattle record for most 100-yard games in a season.

He looks like Jerry Rice. And you picked him at Pick 20, and this is where if I am Jason Light, when I went into this draft on the fence about him, I'm like, well, if I think this guy is like Jackson Smith, I take this guy at four, let alone pick, you know, 21. So I just think Jackson Smith, here's the thing. He punted on D.K. this offseason, who is probably one of his best draft picks of his career.

Second round guy, 27 touchdowns through three years. I mean, there is no disputing. DK's a hit and then is able to trade him for his third contract for a second rounder to basically feature a guy who's just better and more consistent. and less of a boom or bus guy. And then there are a ton of other guys, both running backs, Kenneth Walker, Charbonnet, good players.

You saw a royal catch touchdown tonight. A ton of dudes on defense that he's either drafted or acquired with trades. But the most impressive thing he did, because so much of what we talk about defining an NFL general manager is the draft, the draft, the draft, the draft. And I'm guilty of this too.

It's the thing that we put the most pressure on a GM to do. Crush the draft. That job is so much bigger than that. I mean, how many moves is Howie Roseman made since September 1? He's constantly making little trades. I mean, constantly.

Right? And as a GM, that's a huge part of your job. Free agency, making trades, Leonard Williams, signing Sam Donald, getting rid of Gino. All that falls on you. But the most important thing you can do not on the field,

and probably ever in your career, is to hire the coach. And when John originally got hired and he told this story, like Pete Carroll essentially hired John Schneider. Well, once they fired Pete, it was John's job to hire the next head coach.

And I think it's easy for any coach, or excuse me, any general manager to lean on an offensive guy. No, we got Gene Oval, we're going to need to find another quarterback and we want to find a young offensive guy. Look at my division.

I see, Sean McVey and Kyle Shanahan, who a big reason Pete got fired is because of those two guys. So if I would have done everything possible to force feed an offensive guy, wouldn't have blamed him. But he's like, you know what? I'm just going to take the best coach available. And Mike McDonald is a stud. And that coaching, I mean, last year they tried. They went with Ryan Grubb, who's at Alabama and going to probably be one of, if not the coordinators of the year.

And it just didn't work out. he'd never been an NFL guy, and they sent him back to Alabama, essentially. And they hired Kubiak, who looks like one of the best coordinators in the NFL right now. So you have a head coach who's the defensive coordinator, who's elite at his job, and you got Kubiak, who clearly is a pretty high-end offensive coordinator, who I don't know is just learned from Mike Shanahan, Gary Kubiak, and Kyle Shanahan. So kind of knows what he's doing. And I'm just, the Seattle Seahawks, man, the NFC West at the top is just really good.

You know, it's technically a three-horse race right now with the 49ers, the Rams in Seattle, having the 49ers beat Seattle and the Rams. The 49ers have too many injuries. Today, it looks like they lost their first round pick. Mikel Williams, the big kind of hybrid defensive lineman from Georgia to an ACL. So that would mean they lost Fred Warner to a broken foot.

They lost Nick Bosa to an ACL, and they lost their first round pick, pass rusher slash run defender, to ACO. They're at the point now. You just don't overcome that. Now, I still think the 49ers with their schedule can get to 9-10 wins and be the 7th seat. But I think the Rams in Seattle, they play the Rams this week.

You know, the 49ers are going to have no business beating them with the roster they're rolling out. Now, Mack Jones has done a commendable job, and it's been a coaching clinic by Kyle Shanahan and Robert Saul to be at 6 and 3 with the roster they're rolling out. I mean, look at the Giants, who essentially have the same thing. A bunch of injured guys, a young guy quarterback, random guys playing a wide receiver, and can't function at all. So it's been commendable, but I just think Seattle and the Rams, and honestly, I might put my money on Seattle.

They feel a little bit more explosive, just as a team. Now, the Rams are obviously pretty good, but Seattle 5 to 1, I always thought preseason, felt like something was off about those odds. something was really off. They've been winning double-digit games. If Sam Darnell... A lot of it was the unknown at quarterback.

Well, you watch him. I mean, he's... I mean, like, who are the Pro Bowl guys in the NFC? Baker, Jalen Hertz is having a good year. Stafford, Darnold. This is the, like, level we're talking. The quarterback play in the NFC, when you look at the guys that are going to make the playoffs,

Baker Mayfield, Jalen Hertz, Matt Stafford, Sam Darnold. Matt Jones, Brock Purdy, like it's, who am I leaving out? Jordan Love, Jared Gough, got to be a good quarterback. So it might not be Mahomes and Josh Allen, like the all-time great Hall of Famers, but it's pretty good, so congrats to Seattle. Okay, today's show is brought to you by our new presenting sponsor Hard Rock Bet. Week 8 wraps up with the Cardinals heading to Dallas to take on the Cowboys.

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To me, it can't truly be a rivalry until one team wins one of the meaningful games. And this does have a chance to be a great NFL rivalry, right? but I think we have seen matchups, definitely I'll just go in my life. Like when you close your eyes, do you think Michael Jordan, like who were his rivals? You would say like,

oh, Patrick Ewing's Knicks and Reggie Miller's Pacers. Well, last time I checked whenever they would play those teams, Michael's team would win. So it's like, yeah, the games were really good and it was entertaining,

but we act like this was a back and forth situation. It was like, no, it was kind of one-sided. Right, like people like, Tiger and Furton. Phil. No, Phil never be Tiger. Like, whenever they were matched up, Tiger dominated them. Now, they both had a lot of individual success separate from each other, but whenever it mattered, and they were both in the mix, Tiger won. So they were contemporaries. They both stacked up crazy accomplishments, obviously Tiger more than one or the other and made a lot of money,

but they were not rivals. Part of Tiger's mystique, he didn't have a rival. That's what made Tom Brady pretty interesting. is like, it's going to be Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Well, trust me, as someone that loves Peyton Manning in junior high and early on in college, it was a one-sided thing. The Patriots owned Peyton Manning and the Colts. They couldn't beat him until 2006.

And that's when it officially became a rivalry. It's like the Yankees Red Sox. It's a great rivalry, but it felt pretty one-sided. It felt like, yeah, the Yankees always won championships and the Red Sox never did until 2004. And I think sometimes you need a moment to happen when it has to happen in January. And there's no disputing that the bills

have played the Chiefs really well. And this matchup, through nine games over the last six years or whatever, has been very entertaining to watch. But when we've beat you five times and they're all regular season games and you've beat us four times and they're all in the playoffs,

it's hard to put much validity in those five wins. Because today, I thought the bills kind of worked the Chiefs. They dominated that. game. They were in complete control. They were up two scores in the fourth quarter. It took a fourth and 17, which of course, Andy has a play to get a guy wide open on a fourth and fucking 17. But it took that to even get them to be a one score game late in the fourth quarter. Like, chiefs kind of got main handled, which again, they would say this happened to us before the

regular season. We have lost these guys, literally, I think, five straight years. But is there any person that would bet on the bills to beat them in the play? Now, hopefully, just as a lover of sports and as a lover of legacies and just the, how we talk about these guys in historical context, I want this to be meaningful. And I want Josh and the bills to take them down. But they have to for this game to actually mean something. Because right now it's like, okay, they beat them again the regular season. We've seen that song and dance over and over and over again. And listen, if the Bills played the Chiefs

like they do all these other teams, they would never lose. They would never lose a game. But a couple weeks ago, we watched the Bills playing the Falcons. I'm like, what's going on? Well, if they played this Chiefs game against the Atlanta Falcons, they win by 20 points. So clearly the Bills can get up for Kansas City. But they needed this game because the Patriots had won.

All of a sudden, it's like, we don't have a lead. we'd be down a game and they've already beat us. We'd be talking like, what is going on with the bills? Today was big for them. You gain some momentum. You know, Kansas City, now you get a buy week. You're five and four. It's not the end of the world by any means,

but it's going to be really difficult to win the division. But at the end of the day, like, you're not afraid to go on the road and, you know, be a six seed. But if you're the bills, like, you're going to have to get the monkey off your back. If you ever want to be taken seriously as, like, the team that we want to, want you to be like a Super Bowl contender. Like, you're a Super Bowl contender because you're always good and have a lot of wins, but whenever you play this team, when it matters, it doesn't go your way.

And I'm rooting for that to happen. I want to see their Peyton Manning in 06 come back against Kansas City. It's what would make this create a rivalry. Because right now there isn't one. There's a regular season winning streak, which is cool and impressive to watch. A couple other things. I want to give some game balls out. I mean, some of the defensive performances today,

I can imagine that Brian Flores, on Wednesday night, or Wednesday when he got in front of his defensive unit and kind of gave out the game plan, preached all week, and then obviously the night before the game Saturday night when he probably gives a, gives like an impassioned thought on the game

before everyone breaks to go to bed. We got to win this game. We can't put this on the offense or this young quarterback. We need to step our shit. and we're going to play the game that we played last year all the time and kick ass and take names. And they brought it from the jump. Now it turns out JJ made some of the best plays of his career.

Obviously his career is pretty short, but multiple nice touchdown passes. The one to Jefferson, first TD of the game was fantastic. His touchdown run was nice. I mean, obviously he's a good athlete. And he had the game winning pass. But the defensive effort and the energy you could see Flores on the sideline.

This was a line in the sand game. Like, we got to show, we lose this game. Our season's over. It's just pack it in. Let's just keep fighting for pride, but we're not going to the playoffs. Like, we're not going anywhere. And they came out on the road against the Lions who, coming into this game, I would have said,

it's definitely a Super Bowl contender, and kind of dominated them. I mean, really did. Took it to him on the road. Flores. And J.J. McCarthy, they definitely deserve some game balls. I would say the other guy is he's taking a lot of heat. And, you know, Mike Tomlin takes a lot of heat too.

But like when it ever comes to scheme, people are like, well, Mike's just delegating. Terrell Austin, we could have just elevated Flores. There was a moment, and I mentioned this to Colin, the culture up 7-0. And they're driving. It's like 14 plays. I think they had like 10 plays to gain like 20 yards. The drive was taken forever, but they were just like, they'll probably kick a field goal here.

They have complete control of this game. It'll be 10 to nothing. And I don't feel like the Steelers season is going to about to take a turn for the worst. And it was the moment where you're like, they're going to lose this game. And all of a sudden this is when the Ravens really make their charge the next couple weeks. And we look up and the Steelers just completely fell apart. And then T.J. Watt comes. comes around the left edge and sacks the quarterback forces a fumble and they get it.

And the Steelers never look back. And I can imagine Tomlin, Terrell Austin, Hayward, T.J. Watt. This was it, man. This was a kitchen sink game for your defense. That you're playing this offense that looks like the 99 Rams. I mean, they're just scoring at will. They're punting at a historically low clip. The running back looks like he's on a pace to like match LT for the greatest fantasy performance of all time and like 28 touchdowns.

It's like you're just really about to get worked at home by Daniel Jones and the Colts. And T.J. Watt said not so fast, my friend. And when I pay a guy $100 million and you're the team captain, sometimes I need you to just put my team, put my organization on your back and say, fuck it. We might go down, but I'm going to do something about this if we do go down. and even JJ Watt, who calls a ton of Steeler games, is like sometimes you just need your best player to make a play. And T.J. didn't it completely flip the game. And then the entire unit started to dominate.

I think, you know, Highsmith had multiple sacks. Cam Hayward was flying around. They had, I think they sacked them five times. They hit them a couple other times. They had multiple picks. They caused multiple fumbles. I think they had five turnovers. and it was just on like Donkey Kong.

And they were coming at them from every angle. And they were hitting Daniel Jones over and over and over again. And the reason the Steelers have lost the last couple weeks is because their pass rush had been non-existent. It really had. It's one thing on a Thursday night game. It's another thing on a long, you know, 10-day break. They didn't have a sack of Jordan Love.

And they started destroying him the day. And their best player set the tone. And sometimes sports isn't that complicated. Like, whoever I'm paying the most, I'm just in desperate need for him to do something. Like, you watch the Warriors, sometimes like shit's hitting the fan. Like, hey, Steph, just figure it out. Hey, Otani, like, I just need you to hit a couple bombs today. We are struggling.

You know? And it happens all the time in other sports. It happens all the time in football. And the Steelers were, their backs were against the wall. And T.J. Watt made sure, honestly, he was the catalyst to get him going. and offensively then that he doesn't have to do much. And Rogers has been a good player for him. He has not, it's been the defense.

And the defense came to play today and made plays after play after play. I would say, you know, I gave JGA one. I would say this for Caleb. Sometimes the same thing with JJ. Like I can live with crappy plays. You know, Caleb sometimes it's this first read's not there. he starts scrambling around and it just becomes like a chaotic play that turns out to be nothing. If you're going to give me explosive down the field plays, touchdown passes, touchdown runs,

he caught a touchdown in the day. I can live with negatives if you're giving me a lot of positives. I don't mind an interception in a game if you average three touchdowns. You know, I just can't live with no touchdowns and turnovers, right? Patrick Mahomes, I can't have, you know, late second half turnovers. Those kill you. You can't overcome them. Right?

And listen, he's, he's not an uncriticable player. Like, he made a pass today that put his team in a compromised situation. He threw it up, way down the field to a really fast guy, but triple coverage. And it was a pick. It was a devastating blow to their hopes of, you know, winning that game. And, you know, Caleb Williams did not turn the ball over a day, but he also just made some explosive plays.

He does some things that make you scratch your head. but there was a moment today where it's like, okay, we're playing the Bengals, and it's your classic, we're going to need to score 35 or 40 points. And can we do it? And Ben Johnson is in his bag. But Ben Johnson's been in his bag in some of these games that they've lost. Today, that wasn't the case.

So got to give a game ball to that offense because they came through with some enormous plays. I mean, a stat that's pretty mind-blowing, is no team since 1996. Pretty sure was the 96 Giants Has lost back-to-back games With scoring 38 or more points I mean in the NFL that's that makes sense

It's pretty hard I would bet if we did a study Of the last 20 years If you just score 38 points At what clip do you win 95% of games I mean on average How often does a team score 39 points

right. One percent of the time, I mean, you're winning game. It's such a high clip. And you watch today, it's like they couldn't stop a soul. And even when they scored to take the lead late in the game, they left too much time on the clock. And a couple of plays later, Loveland's going like 70 yards for a touchdown, which was just,

sometimes you need teams like the Bengals that are just awesome watches. And I don't even blame. You know, some of these players in the locker room after the game are being asked about how crappy the defense is. Like, what is Jemar Chase supposed to say? Yeah, we just got to keep working on our fundamentals. Just keep hammering home the scheme. Keep up, keep working hard in practice.

We're pros. It's real. Like, they're terrible. I never have a problem. You know, I bet the running back who also had, like, just get off the fucking field was literally his quote. No Brown. He's going to get people like, you can't, you can't say what? this happened back

it happens one time keep your mouth shut okay happens back to back weeks you get an onside kick anytime you get an onside kick and then score a touchdown and still lose the game I saw I don't even know who it was

but some big bears fan online said that went potentially from the worst bear's loss of my entire life to one of the most exhilarating wins in 90 seconds I'm telling you, today was, if last week was a pretty big downer, today was a pretty big upper. That was a lot of fun. Talk about a downer, though.

I wasn't super locked into this game. One, it's Packers Panthers. Doesn't exactly do it for me. Two, I just assumed the Packers would win, even if they weren't super dialed in, like 23 to 15 or something, and just win the game. And he kept looking up It was like 13 to 6, 13 to 6 I remember the halftime I'm checking kind of the stat line

I'm like Got there, oh for 4 in the red zone But they're moving the ball at will Like what is going on And then all of a sudden the longer it went It's like this kind of has It's a little different The way we got there

But kind of the Browns Packer game It's like this is starting to feel weird Something's a little off here And then you look up And the dust settles and they lose the game Now, the difference between the Browns and the Panthers is like, Panthers are five and four. So Browns are going to win three games all season long. The Panthers probably end up eight or nine wins.

Like, they are a respectable football team. But when you're playing the Panthers at home, and your coach comes out, which I do respect. Like, I don't think most coaches, unless you have little kids, which I would imagine LaFleur does, is like super dialed in for Halloween. Listen, I don't even like Halloween, really. I see some like my friends that I went to high school or college with or some of my wife's friends online. It's like I don't have much in common with the person. Maybe I got a change.

I'm about to have a kid. I get it's their Super Bowl. So maybe I'll be wearing costumes. But I haven't worn costumes. I never even did like in high school. I never cared. But again, I'm not one to judge. If you're wearing costumes, I'd probably be a huge hypocrite.

I'll be wearing costumes for the next decade with my children. but if you're going to go LaFleur and say I think he was literally asked what are you excited for Halloween and he gave the answer like I don't give a shit about Halloween I'm trying to win a football game if you're going to be tough football guy you then got to win the game and you can't lose the game especially when you look back you're like well

the Lions just lost we'd be in the driver's seat to win this division it's like we just lost to the Panthers we tied the Cowboys so every time that I and I have a guy with a few just Super Bowl appearance for the Packers. I do not feel good. You can't trust him. You can't trust him. And then on top of that, you lose Tucker Kraft, who is, I don't even know how old he is. My guess would be 24, 25.

Got to be at his age range, one of the best players in the league. Definitely one of the best up-and-coming players in the league. So if he tore his ACL, that is a devastating loss. Now, they did get a couple weeks ago Watson back, so the wide receiver room's a little deeper. But Tucker Kraft, his chemistry, with the quarterback. It's just been so awesome.

So that's just, I just don't think you're sleeping much. I really don't. I don't know if you're the Packers, like how you, how you sleep, you know? I don't.

And sometimes there are those games, like that's one of those that it's like, I just, you're not going to feel good about this to like, Wednesday. It's going to be a miserable office.

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And this Mental Health Awareness Month, there's no better time to pour back into yourself. Listen to cultivating her space on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Okay, couple quick before we get out of here. Me and Colin talked a lot about the Denver Houston game. I guess my only quick thoughts on that is Bo Nix can look just horrendous for just such long stretches and then can make one throw

and you're like, oh, it looks really good. So they got to find a way because now we're at the point where, especially if they beat the Raiders on Thursday night and they're 8 and 2, the Broncos are going to end up with 13 or 14 wins. Pretty good chance they end up winning the division. So it's all going to be about like how far you're going to go in the playoffs.

You cannot go far in the playoffs with your quarterback being this inconsistent. And I do think they have to find a way. And I know he hit a couple big passes today to just be more consistent in the passing game in the short intermediate game. And he makes some throws where you're like, that is just horrendous. But I will say this about Bo Nix. You saw it today with JJ. You saw it with Caleb. These guys show some mental toughness.

And the Houston Texans defense is no joke. That unit is legit. Will Anderson's probably one of my favorite young players in the league. He is a badass. But some of these guys he's missing are wide open. They're not all blanketed like Dion or Revis. You're in their hip pocket. I mean, some of these guys are open if you can just complete the ball.

You've got to find a way to complete the ball. Because the Broncos are just pulling games out of you-know-what. But hey, you look up if we saw last year the Chiefs won 15. about 13 of them were had no business winning and all of a sudden they're in the Super Bowl so any means necessary okay a couple quick things on college the night slate last night was awesome and I miss more traditional matchups in theory like I miss the pack 12 I miss the big 12 with Oklahoma and Texas right I miss some of the sanctity of what the

Big Ten used to look like before Maryland and Rutgers and some of these team joined, Nebraska. But it is what it is. And we're never going back. So when you turn on USC at Nebraska or Oklahoma at Tennessee, I googled it. I'm like, what year Tennessee go into the SEC? They were an original member. They originally started like the Southern Conference back in like either the late 1800s or the early 1900s. And when I think of Oklahoma, I think of them playing Texas, Texas A&M pre-SEC, you know, up through the Kansas states, the Iowa, the, you know, the kind of that region. And now they're playing Ole Miss and Tennessee and Bama and LSU and Georgia. And these matchups are awesome. So we do get better matchups than we used to get. So I just embrace it. And I was

I thought the Oklahoma Tennessee game, not the best played offensive game you'll ever see. I mean, the Tennessee quarterback was getting obliterated by Oklahoma's defense through a ton of interceptions. I mean, it was all over the map. And they were still right in that game. John Mateer did not play well for periods of time in that game, made some big plays late. But that atmosphere was awesome. Oklahoma now, you know, got to be feeling pretty good about themselves. their defense is real. I mean, they got dudes, even Lane Kiffitt said last week,

they might have one of the best players in the country on that defense. The pass rush is awesome. All their linebackers fly around. DBs make plays on the ball. It was just a very, very entertaining game to watch. And then Nebraska and USC, it was like, one big topic right now.

It's like LSU's governor came out. And I think people are trying to push to the Pete Dambles of the world. We're going to change the way we write these contracts. I doubt it because it's like, okay, if you want me to come to LSU or you want me to come to Penn State, like if I'm Matt Rule, well, I have a job and they like me and they will keep paying me to come. So if you to get me to come, you're going to have to incentivize me to come.

That's been a huge part of these buyouts, right? It's like, why did Lincoln Riley or Brian Kelly or some of these guys, Jimbo Fisher's, contract look like they look because those guys were at Oklahoma, Notre Dame, Florida State. Lane Kiffin does not need to leave Ole Miss, right? Matt ruled Nebraska just gave him a two-year, like $30 million extension. He doesn't need to leave. So it's like, okay, no. It's the most powerful thing you'll ever be told in your entire life, from when you're a little kid to when you start dating girls to when you try to do business deals. No, not interested.

If you really want whatever the other person has to sell, whether that's, you know, trying to get a date, trying to get a job, right? Try to, you know, talk to your children. No, drives you nuts. And that creates a lot of these markets that go nuts. Is because those people, whoever you're courting to be your coach,

their first statement is often, no, not interested. even if they are. And it's going to be fascinating. Everyone keeps talking about it. The buyouts are dead. Buyouts are dead. We'll see. Because a lot of these guys do not need to leave their job.

Let's use this as an example. Kenny Dillingham here at Arizona State. The program he took over from Herman Edwards. Some of these articles that are coming out about Brian Kelly that he does not know the names of some of his players. I know for a fact, Herm Edwards didn't know the name of a lot of his players. The program was an embarrassment. It was a joke.

It was, I'd argue, untouchable. If you were a coach with any options, ASU would be the last job you would want. And it's not like Kenny Dillingham had that many options. He wanted to become a head coach. He also was from here. He went to Chapparel High School. He went to Arizona State and started his coaching career

that obviously sent him to bringing him back in his mid-to-early 30s to be the head coach. Well, you know, we talk a lot about some of these jobs, can you hire a guy without experience at the highest level and the power four when you take a guy from a smaller school? It's a huge jump. And there really isn't parallels to when you're coaching in 2025 at Boise State, at Tulane, at San Diego State, as there would be at LSU or Penn State. Beside football plays and the sport played within the confines of a football field

and the amount of guys you could have on a team and on the field at one time. The business of paying coaches, of keeping players, and then I out that none of it translates. Hiring a general manager and his entire staff. So I would always try to find a guy from a Power 4 conference, even if obviously Arizona State doesn't have that much in common with LSU football. This guy has still been playing people. Last year he made the playoffs,

what Kenny Dillingham has done is really remarkable. And yesterday he beat Matt Kemp. Campbell, who most people have said is one of the top candidates for like seven straight years for the second straight year, but this time he did it without his starting quarterback and his best NFL prospect of wide receiver. And a starting quarterback ran for like almost 250 yards. Because a couple weeks ago, when he had to start the backup, who had to start against Iowa State, he realized he can't throw. But he can run. So we changed the entire offense around this guy to run the ball. And it worked. And Arizona State won.

So I'm watching a young energetic guy who's passionate, who cares, who took a shit sandwich and turned into pretty good chicken salad on a sourdough bun. That's going to work. Now, is Kenny Dillingham going to leave Arizona State? Maybe not. I played golf with a guy a couple weeks ago who's a big booster who said he lives on the same street as his sisters, his parents are right down the street. Like, it's very family-friendly, great place to live.

But I know this. If I'm Penn State, if I'm LSU, if I'm Florida, I'm all over at this guy because he's proving he can win at the power four so the expectations are pretty high he's playing other NFL players other coaches that are making a ton

other rosters that have a lot of money and he's beating them he beat Texas Tech earlier this year they have a $28 million roster so I just don't understand why you know I understand why Lane Kiff is a top candidate I could make the argument this guy should be number two besides the non like Urban Meyer

Nick Savin. Like would I rather have If I'm LSU, Penn State, or Florida, would I seriously rather have Kenny Dillingham or John Gruden? What are we talking about? Are we serious? Are we having a real conversation? And the answer would be no. And last but not least, Carson Beck, I don't think there's any guy that to start the season went, whoa, maybe we were wrong. Maybe he's not that bad.

In the first couple weeks, like, God, Carson Beck looks pretty good. in Miami was most would consider the top team in the country and Carson Beck looked like an NFL player again. Maybe not the first overall pick, but a guy you could take him the third round where last year I thought he was an undraftable player.

And then he lost the game against Louisville and he immediately threw his wide receiver under the bus for running the wrong round. Then a couple weeks later, he loses another game to SMU and more than likely knocks Miami out of the playoffs. and he immediately throws the offensive coordinator under the bus

by saying that I don't call the plays, my job is to just execute them. What the defense did was pretty simple all game long. I don't think there's a guy in the country who, without getting in any trouble, not being arrested, doing anything shady off the field, got taken clearly off more draft boards than last night Carson Bex.

maybe after the one time like hey emotions are high new team say something stupid you're young we all regret it happens twice in a month give me a break wouldn't touch this guy with the 10 foot pole regardless of what you think about him as a player if we're just in agreement like yeah he could be on an NFL roster next year he could be a backup quarterback for five years right okay I don't want a guy who's not a starter who will throw the quarterback or throw a wide receiver or throw a coach under the bus like that's his first inclination which again some of Sometimes when you say it's on me or my responsibility or I screwed up, you don't even mean it. It's just what you say.

It's like the fakesest thing that we all agree was like, yeah, it's not even your fault, but we get it. He can't even do that. He couldn't just like, yeah, we screwed up. You can even say we screwed up. No, he's like, yeah, it's not my fault. Coach, wide receiver. Like, that's the one position where it's like throw his name tag into the trash because that guy's taking himself immediately off draft boards.

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which we'll dive into in our reaction to Cardinals, Cowboys, because I think we'll probably learn more with Troy talking about Kyler. Like, did Kyler and Murray just get benched? Because that's kind of what we all think, just happened, and I'm sure it'll be talked about tomorrow, which I think we all believe that's the case, but we'll find out tomorrow. Jacoby Burset is the starter, and when he started, it's pretty clear the Cardinals have been pretty good.

They easily could have beat the Colts a couple weeks ago. They probably should have beat the Green Bay Packers. Like, he's played well, and the Cowboys defense is not good. So you're giving me a field goal for Jacoby Preset to go on the road with the Cardinals, I know DAC and the Cowboys' offense is good, but I think I could see this being like a one-point game and Jacoby throwing multiple touchdown.

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