The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Rough day for the Vikings, Nick Sirianni's future in Philly, Bo Nix is the guy

Episode Date: August 15, 2024

John reacts to the news that J.J. McCarthy is done for the year, however that isn't the only injury news coming out of Minnesota as Jordan Addison suffered an ankle injury during the team's joint practice with the browns. Later, John dives into the lose-lose situation that Nick Sirianni is in with the Eagles, how Bo Nix has proven that he should be named the starter in Denver, and how Noah Eagle will be calling games in the NFL next season. Later, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 8:47 - Vikings have a rough day 12:47 - Sirianni's future in Philly 17:03 - Bo Nix looks great 22:32 - Noah Eagle calling NFL games 27:37 - Mailbag Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Atlanta's going for broke. I give him credit. They found a way to get a defensive lineman and third-round pick, nothing crazy. So that's a good trade. That's a good trade. He clearly was not happy in New England. England. And my instant reaction is, good trade if you're the

Falcons. I think this, we knew the moment they signed Cousins, a trade like this. It's playoffs or bust. Obviously, the coach isn't getting fired. Maybe Cousins could get Wally Pipp'd by panics, but a lot of pressure on this team to me to win 10 plus

games and be in the playoffs. Ideally win the division, but if you're a playoff team after what's happened the last couple years of Matt Ryan in these last three years, with Arthur Smith, feel pretty good. Patriots, no-brainer.

Should trade him. I mean, he's not going to be on the team. You're not going to give him a contract. Judon's got a lot on the line now. Maybe he plays well early on in the season. They give him a contract extension. He was really good. He's one of the best signings in the history of Belichick.

I mean, that was, he was a really good player. Coming off a major injury, we'll see. A lot of pressure on the Falcons. But I give him credit for being interesting because they are. the Vikings had a day from hell something I've thought of with Philly that I think we should keep an eye on in regards to just their offense

and you know a lot of Siriani talk and I think we talk about Belichick a lot taking over but what if there's a guy on staff and Bo Nix he's going to start the second preseason game so I think I'll do it for Sean Peyton I think we know who's going to be their week one starter.

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We're all humans. Some days are worse than others. That's not really debatable. There are sometimes in life when things happen that are really, really bad and make your day awful. And I think as a team in football, you can have bad day. You have a bad practice. You have a player mouthing off or says something stupid in the media or having a negative impact on a younger player. That creates people being mad in the building.

And then there are days where you lose player for the season. and then during the next practice you get a scare that you lose another player for the season when he's carted off. And the Minnesota Vikings what felt like were having the practice slash day from hell on Wednesday looks like they avoided disaster

with Jordan Addison because I was thinking about today Jefferson and Jordan Addison I mean it's got to be a top five potential duo this upcoming season in the NFL. I mean Jefferson's, you could argue, the best wide receiver in the league and Addison has a rookie at 70 catch

and 10 touchdowns. And luckily, you know, unlike a game, if a guy gets injured in an NFL game and we're all watching, for the most part,

you know immediately if he's carted off once they show the replay, that's not good. That looks really bad. His season's probably over. I mean, there are sometimes where the announcer goes,

yeah, we're not even going to re-show this. It's too gruesome. When you hear that, you're like, season over. Sometimes in practice, a guy is carted off and you get the visual in your head like an NFL game, and it turns out, he just freaked out. He just rolled an ankle. It happens in the NBA all the time. A guy rolls an ankle really bad. That pain, anyone that's had a, you know, rolled ankle playing basketball, you think you've broken your ankle. You shake it off and then 10 minutes later in the NBA,

the guy comes back like two quarters later. But it's no different with wide receivers in DB sometimes. They freak out because their whole livelihood is predicated on moving fast, and sometimes it's not that bad, but when you see cart come out, your heart drops because you think gone for the season. And Minnesota felt like avoided having the worst day of training camp by a country mile, but still sucks. And I think sometimes when you're a fan of a team,

you know, it's easy being a fan of a team that maybe hasn't won for a while, but you know it's always going to be in the mix. like the Yankees, right? Even the Lakers. It's like, we'll figure it out. Someone will sign here. Once LeBron retires, like, we're going to be okay. And you know what, they're right.

They will be. It may not win a championship, but, you know, more than likely it's going to be okay. And then there are teams who have just never won, definitely a championship, where you just question, is this too good to be true? Are we cursed? I mean, Teddy Bridgewater,

they almost have to amputate his lake. He got injured in a number, non-contact drill. Cousins lit up the 49ers like he was an MVP. And then 10 days later or 7 days later, he tears his Achilles. I mean, the Vikings were coming on. And then this happens with JJ.

You're like, what is, how is this possible? And then you look your division rival to Packers. You're like, they went from FARV to Rogers to now this. You start asking the sports gods, why are you doing this to me? and I don't think the Vikings are cursed. I don't believe in curses. I believe in karma, but not curses. I do understand when you start questioning

when really bad stuff consistently happens. And you just go, why? It's easy for the dude on Instagram who's given daily TED talks. Like, stop asking why, just make it happen. Yeah, you've never been a sports fan then, because things can change and they can change really fast for the bad.

And that's what it feels like with the Vikings. I've seen a lot and I've talked to people that have been to these practices, there's a lot of positive stuff coming out at Eagle training camp in regards to the offense and most specifically the quarterback. Talk to people that have been at these practices. The Eagles look really good, as they should. I mean, they got a highly paid roster on offense. Quarterback makes a ton, wide receivers make a ton,

tight end makes a lot, Sequin Barkley. Offensive linemen, both tackles are paid, guards paid. They got good players everywhere. They look good. I started thinking, right? Because McCarthy, Siriani, Syriani, McCarthy. We're going to talk a lot about these two guys. And I feel like I've come to the defense of McCarthy.

I'm like, well, I know he's let you down in the playoffs, but he's won the division two out of three years. They won 12 games three straight years. He took the play calling and proved that he can call plays. Do I think he's Andy Reid? No. but is he better than the way the conversation is being talked about? Probably.

Now, with the Eagles, Siriani almost feels like he's in a no-lose situation, or excuse me, a no-win situation. Because if they lose, he's obviously screwed. But what if they win? And what if the offense is awesome? Well, there's no pretending anymore. We all know.

He's been excommunicated, told be the true CEO, stay away. Try not to get in people's way, essentially. So if the Eagles have success, specifically on offense, guess what? Two years ago they had that happen, and they let the offensive coordinator go to the Colts. Clearly, if they could have a redo last year,

they would have taken a redo and just kept Shane Siking and gotten rid of Sireana. But now they have Kellan Moore, who checks a lot of boxes. In my opinion, he's one of the better, college players I've ever seen. He was remarkable at Boise State, a dominant individual. I mean, that those teams were awesome. So played quarterback at a really high level, even made it in the NFL for a while as a backup, transitioned immediately to coaching,

and within a couple years was calling plays in the NFL, an NFL play caller, starting at like 31 years old. so he has many years of calling plays now for several different quarterbacks Dakota Prescott, Justin Herbert, and now Jalen Hurts well if it does go well on offense and he has a good rapport with the quarterback because let's face it, does Jalen have that much on the line this year? Maybe with us that talk about football or fans but financially no, he's already been paid.

He's one of the highest paid guys in the league. he got his, as the kids say, bag. I hate that word because you don't get bags of money. This isn't the mob. You get direct deposits that are taxed. But that's a conversation for another day. But regardless, I would say Kell and Moore has a lot to gain. Because it's kind of twofold.

One, he has a ton of success. He'd be a lock to get head coaching interviews. But how would the Eagles let him go? do they value Seriani's CEO approach that much that they would risk the guy that they've given the biggest contract

in the history of the franchise who can impact that guy letting him leave the building again they just had that happen once you break up with someone and regret it well if you find yourself in another good relationship

and you go maybe I shouldn't go down that road again and to me that's kind of what the eagle feel like. They have a previous situation in which they know they don't want to experience again. And if the Eagles are good on offense this year, if their team's good, I don't see how Kellen Moore gets out of the building. So you could argue that if the Eagles lose, Siriani's done.

Even if the Eagles win, he's probably in trouble as well. You know, I've been watching football for a living since I was 24 years of. old and evaluating players. Now there's a big jump from going from Fresno State to the NFL, but I've been watching training camp in terms of young players professionally now for almost 15 years. I think 2010, so yeah, we're going on year 14. And I think I got a pretty good idea of when a mid-round pick is making plays and you can go, yeah, this guy's going to make the roster.

Or this guy is definitely an NFL player. He's going to be on a 53 man. I think I can also watch a highly drafted guy and go, Yeah, this guy needs to start. This old school tough love, just get him in the lineup. Or at least I know how the front office is going to view it. Coaches sometimes can get weird. Like, he doesn't know enough plays.

He doesn't know where to line up. And listen, there's validity in those type statements, but this guy does know where to line up and couldn't catch a cold. So this other guy, how about we figure out where to get him lined up and let him make some place? throw him the ball because not only will catch it it will make shit happen after

I understand Sean Payton's a little old school and I do think it's fair when you draft a quarterback high and you have a guy who's already been on the team who's a veteran player to not just hand over the keys right away

there is it is worth it to make people earn stuff in any walk of life right and plus when you have a team environment to let the rest of the guys see that like this guy wasn't handed anything. He had to go take it.

And after I watched Bo Nix last weekend, I went, this isn't even close. Because one, Jared Sidham isn't that talented. He's a career backup. And there's nothing wrong with that in the NFL. You can make a lot of money

and have a great career and play in the league. I mean, it can't be many jobs better in society than backup quarterbacks. So I'm not trying to denigrate that position. It's really hard to make it to that spot. But there is a big gap between, This guy's a backup, and he should start. And Bo Nix, who's old, so it's not like he's some project.

He's a ready-made player. To me, him and Pennix, ready-made players. They're 24 years old, they've been in college for a decade. They are plug-in-play. Obviously, you develop, like, you get better, the more reps you take in anything, but they're about as ready-made as you're going to find coming into an NFL draft. And John Payton acknowledged that Bo Nix is going to start against the Green Bay Packer. because even he couldn't have some coaching tactic

to take away from what we all witnessed, including himself. This is the best player on their roster for that position, and it's time to just stop faking this. He's our starting quarterback. Let's have him take all the reps with the ones, and let's roll. Now, playing in the regular season is a lot different in the preseason. you play a coordinator who game plans against you all week long, and the more you play regular season games as a young player,

the more tape gets out there, and the more ability for coordinators to figure out your weaknesses and then attack those. But Bo Nex is going to be the starter. He was always going to be the starter, and it took him one preseason game to yank that thing away and basically have Sean Payden acknowledged. This is our guy. Someone who's not the guy,

Sean McVeigh was asked if Stetson Bennett had done enough to be the backup, Jimmy Garoppel was suspended the first couple weeks for PEDs. So Stetson Bennett is trying to earn a spot on the roster, obviously, whatever the hell happened last year going away. You know, it's funny, and listen, I respect these guys, and it's a tough spot to be in, but someone on the broadcast was like, it was a good thing. And it's like, if you, last year just going away to wherever he went,

a lot of speculation. I'm not going to speculate, but it was not a good thing if you were the Rams. If the Rams would have known, they never in a million years would have drafted them. You don't draft a player who's got issues and then has to disappear for a year. And then gets back in his first preseason game,

throws four interceptions. And as Sean Payton says, he has not done enough to be the backup. Personally, I don't think he's an NFL player. Period point blank end of story. That'd be my take. I would not want this guy in my roster. and I think they're in a position

if this guy was an undrafted free agent they wouldn't even care they would just cut them move on whatever not necessarily now after the final cuts I think there's a little pride that comes in when you used a draft pick and over the last previous couple years you hadn't have many draft picks

and then everything that happened last year you're trying to like kind of prove yourself right like I think he's shown you he's not physically gifted enough he's not a good enough decision maker he's just not good enough you can find better. Watching random quarterbacks all over the league

who I take over him right now. And I think that's the way it ends up playing out. That Stetson Bennett, he looks anything like he did last week. It's Sionara, buddy. NBC and Peacock announced that Noah Eagle who did all the... I mean, he does a lot of games,

but he did the Team USA games for the Olympics. will be calling with Todd Blackledge the game on Friday night. My first thought is this. I like Blacklidge when he does the Saturday night games for ESPN and he has the little segment where he finds the coolest food spot in whatever the town is and eats, like I'm a sucker for that one.

I think Blacklidge is solid on TV. I don't really like, I kind of like separating church and state. I like my college guys. I like my NFL guys. guys, but clearly they're running out of guys because there's a lot of cross-pollination now. You know, Herb Street doing Amazon. You got Blackledge who last year did NFL games. So I'm not going to complain that much about it.

Maybe it doesn't matter that much. Hell, you could argue that some of these crews analysts that are NFL guys aren't that good. But yeah, that's the crew. I don't know if I'd mentioned this. I saw a story a couple days ago. I think we had a bunch of stuff happen that Netflix will use CBC. on the Christmas Day games. At least their production crew,

they have not announced who's going to call the games. My guess is they'll try to make a little bit of a splash. I don't know what that means, but I could see them being kind of splashy. I mean, that's what they've been trying to do. And hell, they've been doing it just with their business model for a long time, trying to make splashy television shows, the splashy Tom Brady thing.

I'd be a little shocked if they just went chalk and went with like a Todd Blackledge type. Maybe they end up doing that. Wouldn't shock me if all of a sudden it's like, we've hired Philip Rivers. I just use him a lot. That's what I want them to do. But just something like that.

You're like, damn, didn't see that one coming. That's my hope at least. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

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From a scouting perspective, what do you think separated a player like Tyreek Hill being so successful in the league versus players like Tavon Austin, just retired, and D. Anthony Thomas? They all felt like they had different level of speed compared to other players, but only Tyreek had this level of success. Is he just that much faster than the other two?

Or did the landing spot with Andy Reed play into his success? Well, with DeAnthony Thomas, his build was a lot different than Tyreek. He was just much smaller. Tavon Austin, I don't have his metrics up, but I feel he was a little thicker. I think both those two are good examples of when you think either one, do you think route runner besides just running straight down the field?

You know, if you watch the receiver show, Devante goes over the route tree, and Tyree clearly can run go routes and post routes, as well as any player we've ever seen, not named like Randy Moss, right? But I would say his ability through the middle of the field on slamming, on in, like, you know, like a square in, on a quick out. And the level of route running is elite. Like, it's like Marvin Harrison or Devante. But it's with the speed of all these cats.

And then Tyreek, you know, De Anthony Thomas isn't breaking tackles in the NFL. Tavon, in theory, should have been a little better at that. But this guy's ability with the ball in his hands to break tackles because of the way he's built, So he runs all the routes at Hall of Fame level. He has 10 out of 10 speed. His ball skills are incredible. So you don't have to hit him in the bread basket. His ball skills are throw it in the vicinity.

Obviously his catching radius isn't, you know, Megatron, but it's still pretty big for a smaller player. So great route runner, great speed, elite ball skills. Unreal yards after catch, make guys miss, break through arm tackles. I just think he's a complete player and those other guys aren't complete players. And the other thing, I can't speak on these other two guys level, but just knowing, Andy told me this one time, Tyreeks a genius at football. You tell him one thing and he doesn't forget.

So his ability to take the classroom to the field is just at a really high level. So he has all the tangible skills And then he has the mental skills from a football IQ standpoint There's just no stopping a player like that And he needs to dominate Because I already has 12 kids So he needs the cash Because be an expensive endeavor

I think he's got his current girlfriend's pregnant right now Maybe it's 12th's on the way But I just think he's the two In my opinion he's one of the best players I've ever seen any position. So we can argue whether he should be the number one overall player in the top 100. Obviously, quarterbacks are more important, but just pound for pound if position didn't matter, if they were all equal.

If it's like the NBA, positionless sport, you would say he's as good as any. He's as good as any. And his dominance of these last couple years, I mean, can you imagine the dolphins if they weren't able to trade for him? So I think it has to do just He's just a complete player Who has elite skills Which really has separated him The NFL is generally quick

To make significant rule changes that impact the game Some examples Moving the extra point back Now the new kickoff rule If you have a crystal ball What do you see being a new rule Rule change in the next five to ten years Could you see fumbling out of the end zone

Being a touchback for the other team being taken away. Seems like it disincentivized players from reaching for the pylons. I'll be completely honest. That one's never bothered me. Like a lot of things in life, there are risks and there are rewards.

And usually the riskier something is, obviously the higher reward that is. I think it works this way, like in the stock market. You can short a stock, and it can be very lucrative if you hit. But if you miss, you can get yourself in trouble.

you can take a margin loan you better hope everything goes your way right I know a lot of people over the years have taken these helox right these loans from the equity in your home better hope everything's going well

because that can backfire on you quick right fumbles are random I would say no one is ever trying to fumble but when you reach for the pylon it's an incredible reward if you make it and get a touchdown But if you don't, that one, I am not on the side of people freaking out.

I'm just not because I think that there should be a massive penalty if you fumble that bad boy through the end zone. Now, if you fumble it and it bounces, I understand that one kind of a freaky thing, a couple yards out. But most of them happen with guys reaching and getting hit out of their hands. I think it adds a huge drama element to, kind of a go line play. Hey John, congrats on the engagement. With football season coming up, how do you balance football in your love life?

Does your fiance ever get jealous of football? If so, how do you mitigate that? Uh, I guess the best way to overall sum up what I do and what I've been doing my entire adult life, working in football, and then essentially talking about it for the last decade plus,

is this was never a passion project for me. You know, a lot of people, for example, have podcasts now, and they work a regular job. And more props to you. Like,

that wasn't even an option 10 years ago. So it's cool that exists. But I've never had a regular job. That was never an option for me. So I'm obviously passionate about football and like this, but this is how I pay the bills. And I think this not ever being a passion, project for me, this being my life, it took a while, but like this, this is pretty lucrative

for me and her and our lives. So like, I think part of it is what comes with it. Obviously, the credibility of being with Colin who she sees on television and has met. So it's just, she just kind of gets it. I mean, this is, this is what you're marrying into. This is my life. And, uh, She likes football. She's a big 49er fan, so that probably helps. I think golf drives her a lot crazier than football, which are the two things that I watch the most, just because it's always on.

She doesn't understand why there's just a golf tournament every week. I'm like, well, it's just a year-long season. They just play all the time. And I tried to explain to her about the majors being like Super Bowls, but she's like, why would there be four Super Bowls? Or football is a lot easier to consume. Now, we don't lead the craziest. It's not like instead of, you know, Thursday night football, I've got to watch.

It's not like we'd be, you know, maybe if we were going to go to dinner, maybe instead we go Friday night or Wednesday night, I guess. But you just balance. I don't know. It's like it's really like any job, but there are benefits, right? As of right now, we don't have any kids, so I haven't needed to get an office outside of the house for my own sanity. because, you know, I'm going to need to eventually.

But she's in real estate, so we see each other all the time. You know, we work in the same spot, essentially. So it's really not that complicated. And if someone didn't understand, I guess, the way my life is, because it's different than more of a normal job in the sense of, like, you know, Sunday's a work day. but Sundays are a work day for a lot of people you know there's a lot of people that own businesses that work seven days a week

and I when I was a kid my dad was a farmer my friends grandparents owned a construction company and I worked on the ranch and I worked on construction like that's hard work like I think I'm very lucky that this worked out the way it did and yeah I've benefited from sticking with it but I don't even think you need to... I'm not a huge balance guy. I'm just a live-life guy.

Obviously, once you get engaged or married or anyone listening to this in relationships, no, it takes effort. And you have to... One thing I've learned is just because we both work from home and see each other all the time. It doesn't necessarily mean it's quality time. Like, I see, 24-7, 365. Besides, like, when we go to the gym or I play golf or you go do something. But obviously, you just...

You know, you just grow as a human being. It shouldn't be very... It's not very difficult. That's what I would say. Which is probably why I'm marrying her. Because this is my life and it's not going to change. And, yeah, she likes it. Longtime listener.

Great to see your success. I know you're not big on discussing the Raiders. People think I'm such a Raider hater. I'm not. If they were good, I'd be the first to acknowledge it. They just haven't been good for... All of my adult life. life and I'm 40 or 39, about to be 40 in a couple months.

But it's not, one thing I think Raiders fans, which is crazy to me, drives me nuts, to always think like, you just hate us. Like all the bad teams get talked about negatively. And when you're bad, it's usually not sunshine and rainbows. Just like on the flip side, when you're good, people acknowledge it. And you've just always been bad for a long period, since the internet era, basically. You've been terrible and just been irrelevant. And that's your problem.

It's not me. It's not a me problem. It's a franchise problem. It's not your fault. Like, you're just a fan, but... The national media seems to downplay the Raiders potential this year, with many predicting fewer than six wins. However, beat riders close to the team

believe they could be a sleeper, a playoff contender. Know this, if you are a beat writer, you do, like, you spend a lot of time around the team. So obviously, so two things. One, sometimes you can have a jaded view of the operation. And two, you kind of are dependent on the team. In the sense of, like, you need those sources in that operation. Like, that's your job. That's your livelihood.

So it is a tough balance to do. They have good players. I mean, Max Crosby and Devante are stars. Colton Miller, who I think has been banged up this preseason. is a really, really good player. They have, now they drafted Tyree Wilson last year, who might be awful. They signed Wilkins, stud. But Gardner Minchew's your quarterback, and everyone says, like,

how are you just discounting the Raiders? He almost helped the Colts. One, the Colts Division last year was a lot easier than this. Two, the Colts head coach was also their play caller, who many around the league, myself, including, and most fans with a brain go, yeah, this guy's probably a star. Your coach is a guy who,

I mean, was playing not that long ago, who's an impressive leader, has nothing to do with the offense. Nothing. So it's like, it's not like your head coach can impact the quarterback beside rah-rah speeches, which he's clearly good at.

Like, I'm not trying to diminish. Like, Antonio Pierce is an impressive leader. Do I think he's going to be a great head coach? I think it's impossible when you quarterback situation is what it is. So this is a long question, but obviously Josh was a complete failure, which I thought was the right move. And I'll give Mark Davis a lot of credit. Is unlike Dean Spanos that had to get so embarrassed and Harbaugh fell into his lap

in the sense of like he was ready to leave and it was easy. Now, ultimately he landed him so you get credit. Mark Davis has been swinging after Big Fish for a while. He gave John Gruden $100 million. Didn't work out, but you get credit for trying. If the Chargers would have been aggressive with some of these coaches over the years, maybe they wouldn't have found themselves in this situation. Josh, I just, hey, second time's a charm.

Turns out no. He's just not meant to be a head coach, clearly. So what is the national media and podcasters like yourself missing? To me, it's just not very complicated. the quarterback situation. And I think your coaching situation is a major, major question mark of just how that guy can impact the quarterback position. If you tell me you got Aiden O'Connell and Gardner Minchew,

the combination of those guys, whoever ends up winning the job, however that ebbs and flows throughout the season, I'm not going to bet on you. I'm just not. Unless your defense had Lawrence Taylor, Max Crosby, Dion Sanders, Ray Lewis, I'd be like, well, maybe they can just win nine, ten games on defense alone. Because the quarterback position is so emphasized in this modern day game.

So I think it's just that. If you told me you had Kirk Cousins or Michael Pennix, I'd be like, yeah, they could make a wild card for sure. I would say that. But when that's your quarterback room, it's just impossible to say that. It really is. I mean, it doesn't mean it's not possible, but I think anyone predicting them to be a wild card contender

I think just it feels extreme to me it does with who you got behind center question for the bag I know there's always talks and comparisons between Mahomes and Tom Brady as Mahomes continues to win and stack up the accolades but if the chiefs are to realistically win it all this season and complete a three-peat

how close do you believe he really is to Tom Mahomes would have four Super Bowls in seven seasons as a starter along with four Super Bowl MVP's and two regular season MVP's. I think Tom's Trump card, that number seven is so big. It's like, it's really hard to chase Jordan when he's got the six. You know, Curry's got the four. LeBron's got the three and a half. I give the bubble a point fiver. But like ultimately, if my number's bigger than yours, it's, it's,

and dramatically, but you win three in a row, it would be the greatest accomplishment in the history of the league for Andy and Mobs. Because it's never been done. It's never been done. Just like Tom was eight, no one has, name me a quarterback who has six Super Bowls, let alone seven.

Montana was widely considered the goat forever because he had four. I mean, we consider Elway and Manning and these guys are like top five quarterbacks, and they got two. obviously it's a team game and you're very dependent as a quarterback on your coach slash play caller and your general manager

of building a good team and he's benefited greatly from that. But obviously so did Tom with Bill. So I I think the hard thing ever to do is like a quaint mid-career to another guy. I mean we do that with just great players.

Like is this the greatest player we've ever seen? Listen, I'm a big golf guy. people say that about Tiger Woods. Because of Tiger Woods' body, he's never going to have more majors than Jack Nicholas. It's never going to happen. Just like LeBron James, at 40 years old, it feels impossible for him ever get to six championships, especially with the Lakers roster where he's going to be for the next couple years. Even if he plays five more seasons, which is possible.

So it's just you can argue careers, you can argue moments, but I mean the goal of every season is to win the title. And I think the best, if Mahomes doesn't get to the number, which feels pretty crazy to even have a chance. But if he can go to like, losing Super Bowls is also a positive. Like Peyton Manning getting the two, but he got to four. That's the thing with Rogers. Like he's got the one, if Rogers has been to two other Super Bowls and lost, that would be in addition to his legacy. Part of it is like he's never been past a championship game since that moment.

Even Farf, like Farf got to two Super Bowls. Elway, I think, got to five. Now, it's a reflection of the entire operation, but obviously as a lead dog, you're the one that gets the most credit for that. Similar question. Do you think Mahomes has to get seven rings to become the goat? End of the day, goat conversations,

there's nothing more subjective than that. there really isn't. Like, Mahomes are the best player in the league. That's objective. Win's the most, most accomplished, best eye test. Statistically, like, it's just not even debatable. He's unfazed in the playoffs. But, like, we can argue till we're blue in the face,

goats, different sports. What does that even mean? And I talk for a living. I just, I don't know. Think about this. If I was a GM, and you could get any player in the history of the league at 22, 23 years old, and you had the number one overall pick, are we 100% sure Tom Brady, he'd be the number one overall pick?

What if you took John Elway? What if you're like, I'm such a good GM, I'll take Peyton Manning? I'll take my homes. I'll take Farrf. I'm just saying you could make, these are all just arguments. That's all this is. I think Tom, he's obviously pretty far ahead. Mahomes, he wins a third.

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If CJ Stroud is a top three MVP candidate and Bryce Young has another below-average season, would you say that the Panthers had the biggest, whiff of all time with their number one overall pick? No, I mean, there have been bigger whiffs in NFL history, right? The other thing is you can't do a whiff because the biggest whiff of all time would probably be like Jamarcus Russell. Didn't it go Jamarcus Russell, Calvin Johnson?

Jamarcus Russell was out of the league in three years. Out of the league. So I think it's hard to do that two years into a career. You could say it's 100% a mistake. There's no debating it. But it's like, let's use the Trevor Lawrence draft. Okay, Trevor still goes one. What quarterback would be the second off the board?

It wouldn't be Zach Wilson. It wouldn't be Trey Lance. It wouldn't be Mac Jones, but it wouldn't be Fields. Are any of those quarterbacks getting drafted in the first round? I think the answer is 100% no. So I think the question would be is if in five years, CJ is just a bona fide top 6-7 quarterback

in the league every single year, and Bryce is on another team, then it's just a catastrophic mistake. Especially if David Tepard's wife loves CJ's round. And listen, part of being a GM and a head coach, there's got to be luck involved. The Chargers had two of,

above Herbert on their draft board. That's not an opinion. That's a well-documented fact because Telesco's boys with literally every single media person except myself. Tells them all. And rightfully so.

I mean, it wasn't, that wasn't a crazy thing to have four years ago or whatever. But Tua goes first, and they just take Herbert. Promise you this, they don't regret that one. But sometimes you don't know.

So I made a bet with a coworker that the Cowboys wouldn't win a playoff game this season. We're both Cowboy fans. He's a lot younger than me. And under some delusional mind that the Cowboys are great, he wasn't even born when they won four Super Bowls in a row if we had Jimmy Johnson as a coach.

I don't know if you beat the Niners in 94. They had a little guy named Primetime. I think the Niners win that game because of Deion. I mean, signing Deion, who then you, got and you immediately win. I don't think it changes. Now, maybe you keep winning a little longer, but I think you were losing that one.

But I hear what you're saying. What do you think my odds are to win this bet? I'd say 50-50. I think the Cowboys are going to be a playoff team. And the thing with the playoffs, and it's easy to crush people, DAC sucks. It's not inconceivable.

If they're healthy, and depending on the matchups, they could win a multiple playoff games and be in the NFC championship. game. If you get to the dance, anything's possible. It's just a fact. No one thought the Packers were going to be the Cowboys. Then they boat raced them. Then you're like, oh, Packers are going to get Jordan Love smoked by the Niners. They were kicking their ass. Happens all the time. The playoffs, this is not a seven-game series. It's one game, and if you have a bad half, you might not be able to make up for it.

I'll be the first to admit the Niners got very lucky last year in both games, especially the Lions game. They were in major trouble. I've been watching this Pete Rose documentary and, you know,

the Cincinnati Reds, the Big Red machine, were going to the World Series all the time. And minimum going to the to the NLCS all the time. You're like, oh, we lost a devastating game in game four. See you game five.

We just got Carlton Fisket in game six. That sucks. We'll just win game seven and win the World Series. So football's weird that way. Now, I think the best thing you have going for you is there is a chance. Your team's pretty top-heavy if the Cowboys don't make the playoffs. Let's say they go 9 and 8 and they aren't one of the top 7 seats, then you win. but if you make the

the Tampa Bay Buccaneers all of a sudden they're in the playoffs kill the Eagles part of obviously they benefited because they won the division that they had a home game that if you're a wildcar team you've got to go on the road but

I was DMing with a cowboy fan the other day home road does not matter for you it's not like you have any advantage in home two of the last three years Niners beat you three years ago and the Packers killed you last year so it's not not like must have a home game.

I don't think that matters at all. Honestly, your best game of the last three years, I'd say, was two years ago on the road against the Niners in the second round. Easily could have won that game. Your defense won that game. Was playing winning football. Dak screwed you with picks. I'd say make the playoffs.

This is more of a request than a question. But can you please confront Colin on his prejudice against Brock Purdy? Colin was rambling on about how Sam Donald could still be a great and hasn't had great situations before. And yet, did Sam beat out the returning from surgery in the first full season as a starter Brock Party? No. I'm sure hoping the season Brock puts an end to all the holdouts want to disrespect him.

I've said this forever. It's not going to end. He could have the same season as last year. Throw a bunch of touchdowns, lead a team to 12-13 wins. have them winning in the playoffs, then he'll get a big contract. And everyone would be like, oh, well, now we judge him on a $50 million. Like, now we compare him to Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes,

which you could argue is fair then. Everything's fair game once you get a huge contract. But there's no... One, there wasn't... Not that he would have beat out Purdy, and even Sam Darnold admitted Purdy taught me how to study. But it's...

It's not, I promise you this. The purdy conversation has only just started. It is not slowing down. To me, the only way to shut it up, because he could have won the MVP last year and it wouldn't have stopped. He'd have to have like a 48 touchdown season. Of just like, what are you going to say? But if he has another one, like 32 touchdowns,

they're like, oh, Kyle, the weapons. Mahomes, last time I checked, when he won his first MVP, he was throwing a 10. Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey. Got news for you. They're both going first ballot all-famers. And when it's all sudden done, Tyree Kill's probably top three or four wide receiver ever.

Travis is going to go down. Even Shannon Sharp admitted this greatest pass-catching tight end of all time. And he's got Andy Reed. Like, usually these things go hand-in-hand. Joe Montana, you know, he's throwing a Jerry Rice and John Taylor with Bill Walsh.

And great defenses. Tom Brady, great players, great defense. You can't do it by yourself. You got no shot. You mentioned a few podcasts ago the Eagles valued and targeted Russell Wilson in the draft but missed. Can you share the inside info

the stories about draft night where the team's brass misjudged or missed on a target? What are some of the mind games Howie used to throw teams off the scent? Is there a good tell-all book on draft stories? You know, I'm not in on these conversations with Andy and Howie when I was with the team.

So I couldn't pretend to act like what's getting leaked, what's getting said. I do think though it boils down to 10, 15 years before and forever previously the quarterback inflation is not what it is now. So when you saw a quarterback you really liked, like this year's a good example. All these quarterbacks, they ended up going six in the top 12.

I'd say 15 years ago, some of those guys go in the second round. They're the same player. They just go later in the draft. So you viewed it much more like pure value. Where's this guy going to go? Somewhere between pick

60 and 90 and you try to play it perfectly to spend the least amount of draft capital on the player. Like, it's no different than any transaction. Trying to buy a car, trying to buy a house

if you run a business trying to acquire another business what is the least amount I can pay for what I want and when you do that sometimes the other person says no

not going to do that not going to negotiate this is the price or when you draft forever it's like could I get Russell Wilson in the middle of the third round most people thought you could have

because half the league wouldn't even be interested in a player like that. And then obviously John Snyder loved him and took them. But I just think they played the value game. And I think Howie's talked about this, they don't really do that anymore. When they really like a guy, they get

aggressive and go get them. They've done it with position players, but they did it with Jalen Hertz. Could maybe they have got Jalen Hertz in the third round? Yeah, maybe. But we liked them. We're all in on them. Let's draft them. So I just think it was it was a different time. Back

then these quarterbacks, it's hard to even describe. The way you discussed it in the building was nowhere near like the way we do now. And I think a huge reason for that is some of these guys that have hit. Because when you hit on a guy who Josh Allen historically was never getting drafted in the top 10. I mean, he barely could throw for like 55% in college. Now he had traits and there was a lot to. like and he's a good guy. But that kind of movement

changed the sport forever. And we've seen it not work out like 2021 and we've seen it this year where it looks like all these guys are pretty talented. But like Bo Nicks and the history of the sport usually goes in the second or third round. Same with like J.J. McCarthy wouldn't have been a top 15 pick.

That doesn't mean they go on. I mean, I've seen it with Derek Carr's been a starter in the league for like 12, 13 years. he wasn't a first round pick Jimmy Garoppel was an excellent prospect coming out second round pick Drew Brice, second round pick so I think back in the day

you tried to value like can I use my first round pick on another player and then get this quarterback somewhere else I mean hell the Seahawks I think drafted two other players before they Bruce Irvin was definitely their first round pick that year I forget who they took in the second round. Might have been Bobby Wagner

it might have been Bruce Irving Bobby Wagner or Russell Wilson. Well, if you could do it all over again, Russell Wilson would have been where Bruce Irvin, but they didn't even know. Partly because small quarterbacks back then, that's the other thing. Smaller quarterbacks up until the last,

really Russell was a big reason it changed, were heavily discriminated against. And then the sport kind of changed. You don't just need to sit in the pocket and play. example him He's not even a great pocket quarterback He was a scramble runaround guy And then we've seen since

You know, Kyler Murray, number one pick Tiny, short, not small He's thick Baker short, number one overall pick Bryce Young Tiny and skinny Number one overall pick I think there's a decent chance

Bryce is not as good of an NFL player Obviously it's either one of those two I keep hearing you reference CEO head coach as a negative. Yet the two longest coaches in the NFL right now don't call plays on either side of the ball. Last year's final four was 50-50 play callers, 50-50 CEO types.

As a president of a large construction company, if I had to do day-to-day task responsibilities equivalent to play calling, I couldn't properly see the needs to the business. I would be too tied down. to my daily tasks. I don't, so I have the flexibility to support operations, sales, logistics, HR, finance, when needed. With my ultimate obligation being the overall performance of the business,

I have a 15,000-foot view of everything, which allows me to be critical about weak points in the business and exploit the strengths. Challenge management coordinators to view things from different perspective. Own and develop a consistent culture. My guy sounds like he's doing pretty well. I acknowledge that McVe, Shanahan, and Reed are the top three head coaches in the NFL, but my point is that the right CEO type can be just as effective in an NFL locker room, and maybe even more so in different situations.

Success and failure as a head coach in the NFL isn't based on your ability to call an offense or defense, but how you are able to positively impact the team. You said that calling plays is day-to-day activity. I think we would have to acknowledge the play calling in your example running a company would be a major part. Right. So in a certain, that'd be like sales or depending on your business, the product. I would say play calling, especially offensive play calling, is a huge part of the pie chart of everything that encapsulates a business. I've never said I didn't like CEO head coaches.

John Harbaugh is legit. I'm a huge Dan Campbell guy. I swear by Jim Harbaugh. Mike Tomlin, I thought it was time in Pittsburgh for a divorce. I said he would immediately be the number one candidate on the board. I'm more critical of a guy like Siriani. We're like, I know what John Harbaugh brings the table. His leadership is elite.

Same with Jim. Their ability to run the organization is top-notch. Sirian is an example. I don't know what he's doing. Robert Salas, CEO head coach. I don't get it. I do not get it. No different than all CEOs don't have the same skill set. My buddy Scotty is trying to make it in the finance world down in L.A. Caddy's a little on the side at one of the nicest country clubs in Newport Beach. probably within the last six months, I'm on a group text with him,

my brother and a couple other people. He said, I just caddied for the CEO of Chipotle. He's like, dude's the man. He's like, listen, I don't pretend to know what makes a Fortune 500 CEO, but I think this guy's got it.

What happened two days ago? That guy was hired to run Starbucks. So clearly that guy's skill set is pretty freaking high level. But we see CEOs all the time get booted. Hell, Starbucks just ran the guy out of town. Felt a little overwhelmed. So if you are going to do the quote unquote CEO rule,

one, and I don't know your background, but I would imagine you have expertise in certain elements of your business before you became, started the company from scratch. maybe there's a chance you start it from scratch young entrepreneur didn't know anything

but I would doubt that so you have a very good feel for X, Y and Z maybe you've had to really master and learn about over the time of your career running the company

A, B, C, and D which is no different with the CEO head coach they get there are certain things are very comfortable doing and other things they have to get better at but we have to acknowledge some people that are quote unquote

CEO head coaches, do they know X, Y, Z, or A, B, or C? Feels like they, what are they doing? That is my point. Like, the guys you listed have elite characteristics, so I get it. I'm cool with hiring them. I was texting someone the other day, if I had the chance to hire a coach, because I, I do fall under offensive guys, play callers, I understand why that's where

you'd want to lean. But if it was January 1st and I was a GM or an owner, I think Mike Vrable might be my number one guy. Depending, I mean, it doesn't feel like there's a Shanahan or McVey potentially in this crew. Maybe Kellan Moore becomes that. But I don't think you'd go wrong. You'd feel pretty good.

And where does Mike Vrable fall under? Kind of that group. So I'm not thinking these guys, like it's a joke. but certain guys also have that title. And like I said, what are they doing? And what do they bring to the table? What do they bring to the table? Because like you said, you could be a CEO.

You were the best sales guy in the company for a decade and a half. Now, you don't know in construction, you're not a carpenter, you know nothing about electricity or electrician work, You don't know plumbing You know You're decent with logistics You'd have to learn some stuff on the fly But like you bring something to table immediately

Sirian can't impact the offense Like What's Sala I don't get it And I like Robert Sala But he was hired because of his defensive expertise And hell their defense's been a little overrated The last couple years

Not gonna lie But I hear you I think you pigeonhole me saying something that I'm not totally against. Should slash will The Bengals trade Jamar Chase and T. Higgins. I personally think the owner is cheap. Well, I mean, I think that's pretty well established over the years.

And that's why they have not paid either. But is he looking at this team as a hole and there are some obvious holes or even looking at the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl with the wide receiver court. How many picks you get? Well, at this point, T. Higgins, he's a franchise tag. The time to trade him would have been six months ago or the previous year.

So that ship has sailed on trading him for any value. I think the Jamar Chase question is, he's the top five wide receiver, clearly. He's an elite player who used draft capital. in the top, what was he, the fifth pick. So that's a very, very valuable piece. Like ultimately, T. Higgins was an incredible second round hit. Jamar was a value, valuable asset in which you had to pay a premium for.

And he's hit. I think they'd say we don't pay people after three years beside our quarterback, which we did. I think was it after four years? Joe Burrow paid last year? Could be wrong on that. Jamar Chase gets you all. But think of the teams that would be interested in Jamar Chase. The Rams?

I bet they in a heartbeat would give you two ones and a two for them. Well, if you give Jamar Chase to the Rams, I think it's fair to assume that those picks are going to be in the 20s. So what you paid for Jamar and then what you get for them, does that make sense? The bills? Same thing. The Chiefs?

You're not trading them to the chiefs or the bills. Steelers need a wide receiver. You obviously wouldn't do a deal with him. So I think that's where it gets. Would the Cowboys give you a couple ones and a two for Jamar Chase? Probably not because they already got CD Lamb, who they're about to pay. I think in a perfect world, you trade to a team that then kind of sucks,

but I don't think those teams are interested in making that move. I think that's where it gets really complicated. I think you just end up paying him. He hasn't practiced yet, which clearly, I think Florio wrote today, part of the reason he's holding in and not just completely holding out is because there was a training camp bonus, runoff season bonus that he hits for just showing up. But it doesn't look like they're that inclined to give him money.

So it'll be fascinating to watch the way this plays out. But I think if you're all in on your quarterback, and Andy and Veech and those guys had a little more equity. They'd won a Super Bowl. They'd been to another. They clearly were a massive just problem. They already had a sweet defensive player

that they were going to have to invest in. That's like, where are you going to reinvest the capital? I think you should have traded T. Higgins this offseason and used a pick on other players and just invest in Jamar Chase with Joe Burrow. That, to me, is the solution there. The volume.

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