The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Rueben Bain news REACTION, Sonny Styles is an ELITE prospect + NFL Offseason Mailbag
Episode Date: April 14, 2026On this episode, John dives into an NFL Draft breakdown of Reuben Bain and Sonny Styles, analyzing their strengths, projections, and how they could translate to the next level. From pass-rush upside t...o defensive versatility, they break down where each prospect fits and what teams should be paying attention to. He also discusses whether Mike Vrabel should publicly address the incident with Dianna Russini, examining how coaches handle media narratives and what accountability looks like in today’s NFL. Plus, Dad Diaries returns with the latest stories, giving listeners a lighter, behind-the-scenes look at life off the field. Finally, John answers your questions in the latest mailbag segment. From draft analysis to league storylines and everything in between, it’s all covered in this episode. Follow John on Twitter, and Instagram for the latest. All lines provided by Hard Rock BetSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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So let's start with Ruben Bain, who just based on the eye test, based on when you throw on the old 22,
and based on just a purely dominant performance in the biggest games,
Ruben Bain is one of the best prospects in this draft.
Now, he's a polarizing player on the field
because he doesn't have the measurables as the top couple pass rushers.
But just based on physical dominance,
he is a pretty damn good player and should go in the top 10.
Now, it came out today.
There's a difference between public information
and the information the teams have.
And listen, around this time of year,
you got to be,
you got to have your spidey senses
and your tinfoil hat on a little bit
when stories break a week or two before the draft,
especially with a guy as famous as this
in terms of this class,
given that his team was just in the national championship
and honestly, easily could have won the thing.
And Ruben Bain was their best player.
That a couple years ago,
I guess it's 26 now, so 24.
He was involved in a car accident where someone died in the other car.
They went to a coma, a 22-year-old, and they did not make it.
Now, if you remember a couple years ago, there was also a car accident.
And it involved Jalen Carter, who was pound for pound the best player in his draft.
Jalen Carter a couple years ago was the best player in his draft.
Now, he went ninth overall.
He also at the Combine that year had to leave to turn himself in.
And there were a lot of other things being a red flag as a player coming out of college
beside that incident.
But that incident when someone dies and you leave the scene, it was a major story.
That was public information, kind of from the jump.
This was not, right?
Most fans did not know about this.
And here's the thing, that the scouting community, when you go into these smaller schools,
there are, and listen, Miami is kind of unique because it's in a big city.
But a lot of these SEC programs and Big 10 programs and Big 12 programs are in smaller little towns
where they are very insulated when something happens with a top player that never becomes public.
And that is the job of the scouting community, the boots on the ground,
to not only find out that information, but to get to the bottom of it.
And I've talked to a lot of friends that the majority of their job
is not just writing reports, this guy can play, this guy can't play,
I like this guy, most people don't like this guy, whatever,
his strengths and weaknesses, how will fit on the team.
It's to get the background information on the human being.
Now, there's nothing easier than a prospect who is just clean, right?
a guy with no issues, team captain, high character guy,
there are guys like that in this draft.
Jeremiah Love, Sonny Stiles,
Fernando Mendoza, to name a couple that are going to go really high,
that are easy write-ups.
That is where you're spending all your time evaluating the player
because they check every box off the field.
They're everything you would want in your building.
They have no incidents.
If anything, they go above and beyond from a positive standpoint.
You know, it's the old scouting adages,
I'd want him to marry my daughter.
When you give that vote of confidence in a draft room,
it's like, this is a high-level cat.
This is the type guy we want.
And then it's just like, does the player fit what we do?
Ruben Bain is the guy that when someone dies and he's behind the wheel,
it becomes a major conversation.
And if he wasn't an average player in this draft,
I think a lot of people would take him off the draft board.
If he was a guy that's like,
yeah, he's probably going to go in the fourth, fifth round,
just based on play
you would go not even worth it
not even messing with it
it's just like not worth the PR headache
but as we saw with Jalen Carter
a couple years ago
whose situation was way more public
and listen he was a better prospect
but I'll never forget
when he had to leave the combine
to go check himself in
to the local precinct
down in Georgia you went
I don't think I've ever seen that before
and I'm pretty sure that was an unprecedented event
but guess what? His talent outweighed any of the PR issues.
And that's where I think we find Ruben Bain.
Because is he the top pass rusher in this draft? No.
Is he clearly one of the best 10 to 15 prospects in this draft? 100%.
I think you could make an argument is one of the best four or five players in this draft,
just based on on the field production.
And that overweighs it.
I mean, whether you like it or not, I've said it forever.
And listen, I don't even think I've really even ever been in a car accident.
Right?
So it's like I can't, I've never been handcuffed.
I've never been to jail.
Now, not saying there were situations that if I got caught, I wouldn't have got in trouble.
I'm not sitting here on an ivory tower preaching that fucking myself or yourself,
if you haven't gotten trouble, haven't done some stupid things.
I would just had a wedding with a bunch of high school friends and we talked about God.
the things if we would have got caught for, it would have been bad.
Or the situations where, God, you look back, we avoided disaster on that one.
And I think a lot of us as you age can look back on situations to go, thank God on that.
Thank my lucky stars.
Oh, you big man upstairs.
But in a situation like this, I've always said bad PR can be a little overrated.
right and I think nowadays so much of the news
bases their coverage on like what the comment sections are
it's like I don't think that's a proper representation
but we would all agree if someone loses their life
because of reckless driving it's like bad situation
really really bad situation
we just saw several years ago Henry Ruggs
doing 150 mile an hour
and a woman and her dog blew up in the car, right?
And obviously he's still in prison.
So these teams take this shit very seriously.
And I think the majority of their work on this player,
from really probably the Jets to like the Chief's Bengals range,
has been trying to figure out this guy for the last three or four months.
What is this guy's deal?
Is this a one-time incident?
is he a bad guy?
I saw a report today, not that I've heard of,
but there are some other incidents, you know,
that are not public,
that teams have been digging on.
And that is the job of a front office
to figure out if this guy is a major red flag
and if you take him,
he's going to be a problem for you,
or if that was a situation as a young person,
obviously not only regrettable,
but he's lucky probably not in jail or prison
for a situation that caused a young person to not be around, right?
If that doesn't hurt your heart and go, God,
their life just ends at 22 years old.
But like I said, this is a league based on two things,
money and winning.
That's the only thing that matters.
We'll get into Vray Bowl a little bit longer,
but I see some of these takes.
It's like, guys, he just led his team to the Super Bowl.
He has one role, and that's to win games.
The moment you don't win games,
the other issues become a problem.
But there have been a lot of players and coaches
who are a problem or tough to deal with
or not an ideal manager or guy in the building.
But if they're ass kickers,
when it comes to Sundays, Mondays or Thursdays,
or now Wednesdays, or Fridays, depending on the time of year,
that's all that matters.
I think sometimes we look at this league
and hold it to a standard in which we would hold our own family or our own children.
That's not the way this works.
So Reuben Bain, unless there are things that I haven't heard about,
because Brad Holmes was asked about this today.
And he goes, well, we've known about this forever.
Like, this is what we've been talking about in our draft rooms.
Now, obviously, the Lions, you wouldn't think unless they trade it up,
would have the opportunity to draft this player.
But this is not new information to them.
So they have been talking with him.
I would imagine he's done a lot of 30 visits going into the facility.
I'm sure every visit he had at the Combine was not based on like,
what do you do on third and seven when you were in this?
No, it's all the evaluation of the human being.
And that's a huge part of the role of teams is figuring out the people.
Figuring out the guy, if you're going to draft really high,
are we comfortable thinking that this guy's going to be on our team for the next 10 years?
He's going to be a second contract guy.
And typically, a defensive lineman, if he's a second contract guy,
is going to be very expensive.
So he's a polarizing guy on and off the field
because certain teams have metrics that they try not to budge on, right?
You know, we don't love making exceptions.
Parcells used to say this.
if you take exceptions sooner or later you will have a team full of them right but there are individuals where you got listen
we have some certain standards for measurables but this guy we think can overcome them and then it all
becomes off-the-field stuff and i had a friend recently tell me that he heard a story about a guy
and this was a guy that's going to go he said in like the fifth to seventh round so this is a late round pick
about an off-the-field incident that was very true
troubling. And he's like, I haven't heard many scouts or people talking about it, but he got wind of it.
And in their organization, they, you know, they have a Dom type guy who looks into things, one,
before he's even tipped off to it. But anytime a scout hears about a troubling incident,
they funnel it right to this guy. And then they do like deep, deep background checks on those type guys.
and something else came up
when they were alerted to it
on a separate incident.
And he's like, the reality is
when we're in this draft room,
my evaluation on this player,
I don't even know what position he plays,
but it's not based on, you know,
don't really love his feet
and the ability to hold the point as a center.
Or like his range as a linebacker is a little limited.
Obviously, you talk about that
when you go through the evaluations,
but your job is you better,
get that character information right.
Because people often ask me, you know, like in sales,
I'm sure a lot of people listening are in sales
or some form of fashion, you know, in your business world.
Whether it's a public company in every quarter,
whether it's a monthly quota, however you're operating,
it's very black and white.
Are you hitting the expectation?
Are you doing what you are supposed to be doing?
Are you exceeding it?
Are you underwhelming?
you know, you know where you stand.
I've heard a lot of stories about a lot of different teams that goes,
listen, this guy kind of sucks as a scout,
but the general manager really likes him.
He's a good team guy.
We just like him in the room.
And listen, we're not depending on him to draft our team,
but he's kind of a made guy.
It's not quite the mob,
but like there's a reason some scouts have been on teams for a long period of time
because they're very, very well-liked.
And they may be average.
They may not exactly be, you know, the greatest evaluator people have ever seen.
But they stick around.
And there are a lot of people that rub people the wrong way and who are pretty good at their job.
Not to toot my own horn.
Like, I was pretty good at it.
I felt pretty confident.
But I couldn't really keep my mouth shut.
And I got in an argument with Chip Kelly in the draft room because we disagreed.
And most people will tell you, especially younger scouts, like, you got to be careful about arguing with the GM.
and definitely a new head coach.
Right?
But some people are just great company men.
They will never ruffle feathers.
But the one way to get exposed is if you acquire a player,
and the Bain situation, like everyone knows.
But there are a lot of guys that it's super private.
And nowadays, because of NIL, because of the transfer portal,
when you see these, back with Colin, and listen,
it's not like he has bad guys.
But Marcus Freeman is just,
just, and he's no different than all the top coaches.
They are not going to publicly, and even privately,
if they don't know you extremely well,
give you negative information.
They're just not, because if that blows back on them,
they can look bad.
You know, I'll never forget a story.
Remember Deshawn Jackson for a long time
on Monday night football, Sunday night football,
when they go through the starting lineups,
he wouldn't say cow.
he'd say, I think he went to Long Beach, Polly.
Anytime you see a NFL player, especially a good one, use their high school,
it's typically because they had a bad experience in college.
Or they think the program fucked them.
Now, Rogers did it forever because they fired Jeff Tedford,
and Tedford was his guy and it pissed him off.
Deshawn did it because Jeff Tedford was an open book with him
and didn't exactly give him rave reviews in the program.
There was a reason to Sean Jackson, who probably should have gone,
he was, you know, like 165 pounds,
so I'm not saying he would have gone top five,
but he's probably a top 15 pick just based on the field.
And he went in the second round.
And there's a famous video of Andy Reid on the phone with him
that basically said, like, nothing's going to be tolerated here.
And the NFL network, it used to be a story in Philadelphia,
they showed Deshawn's face
and Andy's on the phone with them
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his eyes open up
he kind of goes quiet
because Andy's kind of
reading him the riot act a little bit
and this all gets back
and there's a million stories like this
back in the day before social media
and information age
where coaches would just
actually give you the truth
but if you don't know the guy
like Urban Meyer
or some of these you know
if I don't know Dan Lanning as a scout
he's not going to crush one of his guys
because he doesn't want to get that back.
Now, if I have a personal relationship with him or a coordinator,
maybe they will be forthright and be truthful.
But you have to be very, very careful.
I've always thought that head coaches are some of the worst sources.
Look at Belichick for a long, long time.
The reason the Patriots started drafting not that well,
because those would be the guys he would call.
Urban Meyer, Nick Sabin, Herm Edwards.
Like, yeah, they're just going to give him kind of the runaround.
And honestly, they don't always know the players the best.
So I think this Bain situation is just kind of sheds a light on the majority of these guys' jobs
are just to act like detectives.
And when you're a detective, you better do everything humanly possible to get all the information.
And the hard part about this information, a lot like a detective,
it's not always easy to acquire.
and it takes many years to establish sources,
but the reality is in college football,
coaches are always leaving,
coordinators are always leaving.
There's a lot of turnover.
So it can be difficult,
but you better not miss.
And when you draft a guy in the third round
and then a week later something comes out,
the owner of the head coach and the GM
are going to be looking at you side-eyed.
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I've talked to a couple buddies.
One guy isn't as high, but I've talked to a couple of assistant GMs that think Sonny
Stiles is one of the best prospects in this draft.
I had one who's won Super Bowls, say John.
He's 6'5.
He runs a 4-44.
He is like a genius.
in terms of football intelligence.
His character is off the charts.
And, I mean, he's got to be just pound for pound
one of the best athletes in this draft,
if not the best.
He jumped 43 inches.
He's 6'5.
And for a long period of time,
middle linebacker,
a little like running backs,
the running backs has shifted, right?
If you're a great running back prospect now,
no one has an issue with you getting drafted eye.
It wasn't that long ago, like the Sequin Barclays
are like, ah, a little risky.
And you can look back and go, it's not a great fit if your team sucks,
but Gettleman did a terrible job.
Obviously, Sequin is an elite prospect.
Same with McCaffrey, same with Bejohn Robinson.
It's why all these guys go really, really high.
We'll see on Ashton Genty, I don't put him in the classes, those guys.
His draft was shitty.
I'm rooting for him.
But Jeremiah Love is a better prospect than Ashton Jentie
and probably as equal as Bejan Robinson,
who's one of the truly great running back prospects in a long time,
just in terms of, there's nothing.
he can't do and you watch how good he is on a
poorly run organization. I mean,
he's a badass.
Was it Monday Night Football? Who were they
playing? Were they playing the Rams?
It was like, is this one of the best games I've ever seen?
I think Sunny Styles is,
I don't know if he's going to go on the top five,
but I think we could look back in four or five years and go
he was one of if not the best player in this draft.
Because, like Luke Keekeley
and Roquon Smith were two guys,
that were drafted in the top 10.
And as it was told to me, and it's true,
now I'm not saying he's a better player
because both those two guys were elite players.
But this guy, you could argue,
is a better prospect.
He's taller, he's faster, he's more explosive.
We just saw him playing for a Super Bowl-winning
defensive guy in Patricia.
And the things you hear about him,
a lot like Roquan and Erlacher off the field,
are pretty special.
So there's a pretty good chance
a lot of people think he's going to go to the New York Giants.
And if you tell me the New York Giants take him in five,
I'd go, that's got a chance to be an all-time pick.
And Forever is like, well, you can get really good linebackers
in the second and the third round.
Well, the game has dramatically changed.
It's a space game, right?
When we talk about basketball,
who got the NBA, probably their worst season of all time with the tanking,
but it's like positionless, right?
The center actually is kind of coming back.
But for a long time, it was like, positionless basketball.
You got to be able to do everything.
You've got to be able to dribble.
You've got to be able to guard multiple positions.
You've got to be a score at different levels.
And that's kind of football, right?
These running backs can play slot receivers.
These tight ends can play slot receivers.
The game is spread.
So when the game is spread out, it becomes a space game.
And for a linebacker, when you think about probably the best lineback in the league
the last six or seven years, has been Fred Warner.
Now, Fred, if you put him in like the 90s,
is not just some downhill stack and shed linebacker.
He's not Levant Kirkland, right?
That's not his style.
His style is speed, anticipation, and instincts.
Now, the one knock on Sunny is like his instincts
aren't Keekly or Roquan right now.
Well, he transitioned from safety a couple years ago.
You know a guy that transitioned from safety?
once upon a time, Brian Erlocker, who also, in terms of length and athleticism, was pretty
elite. Last time I checked Erlackers in the Hall of Fame, right? Questionable bust with the hair,
but I actually thought he was a pretty good looking bald guy. He just refused to say that way,
which I can respect. And he did the procedure that was not the turkey one, so his hair kind of
looked shitty, but that's a different conversation for a different day.
most teams now are running some sort or a large majority are running the Shanahan Kubiak offense
well what is the go-to play in that offense it's the zone run and specifically the outside
zone run left or right because that run is not just destined for one hole it's basically on
the running back to do what he feels is the best opportunity to gain yards that could be
going outside the tackle. That could be going inside the tackle. That could be cutting back
on the backside guard. Well, what do you need to defend that play? You need range and
athleticism. It's why all the offensive linemen that those teams like are good feet athletes,
guys with quick feet, not necessarily Larry Allen power. Right now, some offensive linemen
historically could do any scheme, right? Trent Williams, Lane Johnson, it doesn't necessarily
matter. Quentin Nelson. But a lot of guys are very scheme specific, especially in that offense.
You can't be a bad athlete and really function because it's a lot of just running. It's much more
positional blocking than it is road grading. And it's what makes Trent so unique in that scheme
because he's so powerful, right? Or a Penae-Soul running zone because he can grab you and you're not
moving. Most guys are not. They're just positionally blocking you. So when you're a great athlete like
this guy, you can slip and go around guys because you're so much faster.
And then in the passing game, think of most teams are funneling the ball constantly to
tight ends, slot receivers over the middle, and the running back out of the back field.
Well, who's tackling those guys a lot of the time?
The middle linebacker.
So I do think this position with a guy like this, I don't think you need to overthink it.
and from what I've heard, I don't think he's going to last far.
And if the Giants take him at five, that could be an incredible pick.
And even, you know, I've said this forever.
I have no problem.
There is no such thing as a high floor.
It does not exist.
It truly doesn't.
It's like, well, Matt Jones' floor is high.
He's a lifetime backup now.
Right?
So when I hear this about Ty Simpson, his floor is really high.
There's no guarantee he can ever be a starter.
Zero.
That's not the way it works.
right. Marcus Marriota is going to be a 10 plus year backup.
He was drafted the number two overall.
You see this at all sorts of positions.
So I hate that term, high floor.
Because a couple years in, you're like,
this guy's not nearly good enough.
Well, yeah, because it's really difficult for, you know,
to evaluate these guys because of the people, right?
You just never know.
You're not just getting the player, you're getting the person.
It's a complicated, it's not a scientific formula.
And when I look at Sunny Stiles, to me, the ceiling sky high.
No different than Reese, right?
Their ceiling is extremely high.
But there's no guarantee.
And, you know, I just, I would take this guy extremely high.
Mike Vrable, now, I don't think he would have spoke anyway.
A lot of coaches do not speak in this situation.
But I was getting alerts from news stations that Mike Vrable avoided the media.
and over the Rossini situation.
Now, obviously, it's going to be very difficult for him to do that in a week.
And I've seen, and I've gotten some DMs like,
Middilcoff, what about, what about Sharon Moore?
It's like, well, Sharon Moore was banging his assistant
and then had an incident where he threatened to kill himself with a butter knife,
which probably would be pretty difficult.
But like, what about Mel Tucker?
I heard that.
Well, Mel Tucker got into a situation with a,
a lady who speaks to teams about rape because she was ganged raped years ago.
And then she claimed whether it's true or not that they were not in a consensual relationship,
he was stalking him.
Like, if that situation happened with Vrabel and Rossini, Vrable would have a problem on his
hands.
But his job is to win games.
It truly is.
If you think Mike Vrable is the only football, you know, in college, we, like,
Lane Kiffin would be, well, he's just sleeping with everyone that moves.
Lane Kiffin would not be employable, and a couple years ago, he wasn't.
Teams like Oregon would not even interview him.
Think about this.
A couple years ago, Alabama had an opening.
Lane Kiffin was not a candidate.
He had to go to Ole Miss, who historically is like a renegade school.
And it took, and look where he ended up now at LSU.
A lot of teams aren't comfortable with the off-the-field stuff with Lane Kiffin.
it's no different in the pros
you have a lot of scumbag coaches
you know you do
and like this notion
that Mike Vrable is being held
to a different standard
me and Coward talked about this
and I've been thinking about this for a week
his job like off the field
that's between him and his wife
and if Mike Vrable was going
six five wins every year
and creating negative headlines
for the franchise
then yeah he'd have a problem on his hands
but as long as he's winning double-digit games
and going to the playoffs, nobody gives a shit.
The NFL, this goes back to Ruben Bain.
It doesn't care about any of this stuff
if you're making money and winning games.
It really doesn't.
And if you're uncomfortable with that,
then you're going to be uncomfortable with pro sports.
You just simply are.
So we'll see where this goes.
Obviously, she's been suspended.
Her job is to get information.
Like, that's her role.
Her job is to get information.
And people start questioning, like,
well, how does she actually get in the information?
Right?
And that's why that becomes,
a separate incident from Mike.
If, like, it just, it's just a reality of the situation.
And I know some people are like, it's not fair.
Life ain't fair.
You know, it's simply not.
And his owner, it's like, what is Robert Kraft?
You mean Robert Kraft?
They got the handy at the massage parlor in Palm Beach,
the day of the AFC championship game that was in Kansas City.
You mean that guy?
You think he gives a flying, you know what?
about what his coach is doing, you know, in terms of like off the field with women that is consensual.
I promise you, he does not.
And as long as he wins, this simply will not matter for Mike Vrable and the Patriots.
But during the draft situation, he's not going to be able to avoid this topic forever.
And if she is fired or not renewed or who knows what's going on with the New York Times
who's trying to act like there's some moral, moral superior operation,
you know, let's her go.
It's going to be pretty clear what, you know,
I think it already is to any of us with a brain what was going on.
Again, I don't care.
And people keep asking like, what's your take?
I don't give a shit who you sleep with.
I've said this forever.
Your relationship, in your bedroom, like everyone's different.
Some relationships are open.
Mine definitely is not.
Like, that's on you, buddy.
I don't have the energy.
or the wherewithal to care about my own friends,
let alone other people.
Like, you sleep around.
Maybe his wife doesn't care.
Maybe he's been doing it for 20 years.
I don't know.
But I know this.
I've been around this business long enough.
He ain't the first coach,
and he definitely won't be the last,
that is involved in situations outside of his marriage.
Before we dive into the mailbag,
Dad Diaries, we just,
Jack made his first airplane trip.
He's pretty good.
he's pretty good one thing you know when you travel
there's like this uh there's like this step you make right when you're a single guy
traveling's cake you just throw some shit in a bag you head to the airport
whether you like being there early so you can have a few uh few airport beers whether you
like being there five minutes before you're in complete control of that situation
then then you get start dating someone or you know you get married
then you travel as a tandem which immediately becomes more expensive because you're buying two tickets
underrated part about being in a serious relationship,
whether you're married or not,
all the food orders are way more expensive
because you just double it.
And for me, like, I could eat the same two or three restaurants all the time.
Chipotle, Cafe Rio,
like, I keep it pretty simple, right?
That's not her.
She likes mixing it up all the time.
No different than when we cook.
It's like, I could just make the same thing over and over and over.
She likes variety.
So you start getting used to that,
but then you start traveling with a child,
and it is an ordeal.
You got to take a stroller.
You got to either bring the base to put in the car
to put the stroller on top
or buy a base wherever you're going,
especially if you have family that lives in a different area.
But he's good.
He just sleeps kind of the whole time,
drinks a bottle.
We basically, we went home for my buddy Brian's wedding,
and it was awesome,
had a few too many cocktails.
Actually contained myself pretty well.
It wasn't hurting that bad the next day.
But it was more, they had gotten married previously at the courthouse
and then essentially just threw a party that had a dinner and an open bar, which was fun.
Very, very close to where my mom lives.
So we were sleeping at her house, which made it very easy, which all four.
And the next day, we had an Easter party with my wife's family.
you know, a week later because we were coming home and we wanted to get all of her cousins
kids together. There's probably eight, nine kids under five years old, right? Whether it's her
brother, whether it's us, whether it's her cousins, and her grandma, which would be my son's
great-grandmother, is still alive in her mid-90s. And she looks fantastic. She was wearing
leather pants. She's just skinny. I mean, I would die to have that type health when,
when I'm that age.
And who knows?
I mean, I'm probably, you know,
Batman might not even be around.
But all the kids were there.
You know, they did an Easter egg hunt.
Obviously, Jack can't crawl, let alone walk,
so he just kind of watches.
And at one moment,
all of a sudden, we hear a couple noises coming from Jack,
which, listen, the kid likes a fart.
He's, you know, a young baby.
Then it just kind of persists and it gets aggressive.
We're like, oh, we've got to.
got to change that diaper, right?
As any parent knows, there's a certain sound, you go, that's a diaper change.
Then all of a sudden we look, Maria's leg is covered in brown, and we look at the floor,
and there is like a 10 to 15 foot stretch of just Jack.
And I went, oh, my, it wasn't just a blowout, it was an explosion.
but you're in this environment with all these other dads
like my brother-in-law, some of hers cousins,
that all are very comfortable in that situation.
I went, I was like, hey, let me clean it up.
They immediately grabbed paper towels.
They grab cleaning supplies.
And like three of us are on the ground.
Luckily it was like a tile or hardwood.
So it wasn't rug, which would have been a disaster.
And we're all just scrubbing away.
And they're like, I've been there, man.
don't worry about it.
If you would have told me a couple years ago,
I would have freaked.
It was just to see the other dad's in action,
you kind of become numb to the situation.
And I used to always think this,
like, I don't know how I'm ever going to change a diaper.
And they started changing your first couple diapers.
You're like, this is actually pretty easy.
Honestly, it's the easiest thing you could argue of the infant operation.
A diaper change, if you do it right,
it's like a pit stop in NASCAR.
You're in and you're out.
Do a couple swipes.
Lift up the back.
If you got any run up and I don't have a girl, but, you know, you kind of do, you know,
it gets around the balls.
You know, you don't want any carryover because then it gets hard and it kind of gets gross.
So you just kind of know what you're doing.
Lock it up and you move on.
So jack shit all over the ground, fun times.
Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news, huge news?
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to our...
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how did we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
And...
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
Before Jonas Brothers...
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast,
where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas.
And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcast.
Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.
Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy,
not quite.
Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.
me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel,
help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Where does your group perform?
We do some retirement homes.
Those people are starving for banter.
Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect.
We were God's Chosen, Kingdom on.
earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an
extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the
president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies
I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings
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Just how long can their empire survive?
The largest tax investigation in American history.
You need to tell me what you know.
Is somebody coming after me?
Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life.
Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the Aihar Radio app,
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Okay, add John Middilcoff, question for the bag.
We will start with Sean.
Are there any sport topics or debates
you were tired of or won't talk about on the show.
I'm 26.
It feels like I spent half of my life.
Jordan or LeBron.
It's always the exact same talking points.
To the point where I won't even engage with it now.
That almost feels, is that even a topic anymore?
Jordan or LeBron feels like Democrat or Republican.
No one's changing.
You're not going to find someone on the opposite point of view
and change their opinion.
Like I just those days are done
Like I to me
I don't know if there are enough football ones
But like
Sometimes when I'll look up
I'll be at I'll be at the gym
And you just look up at the at the headline of first take
It's like how do you do this every day
What it's like week two
What is Dak Prescott's legacy
It's like Dak Prescott
I don't know he could
What if he gets hot in the playoffs
Eli Manning did
Joe Flacco did
If those guys can do it
There is a large group of
quarterbacks who can do it.
Right?
And you can have bad playoff stretch and then be good.
Justin Herbert, what, had some bad playoff games?
He'll eventually probably have a good playoff game.
Maybe two.
Hell, maybe win a Super Bowl.
Or maybe you won't.
I don't know.
To me, some of the hypothetical stuff with like legacies while you get guys in the middle
of their career, it's just, I, that's not what I do here.
Like, I'm not really into that.
And honestly, I could probably go more viral on some social clips if I did shit like that.
It just does not interest me.
I simply do not care.
And I think why I like doing this so much is I just react to what's happening.
If you play a good game, we just say you play a good game and we talk about it.
If you didn't.
Like, I don't believe any of these guys.
Like, they are defined by what they've previously done, especially if they're still young.
Like, Lamar could have a playoff stretch where he's incredible.
Or he could just have shitty games.
I don't know.
I know this.
I'll be watching the game and then talking about it.
Josh Allen, there's no guarantee he's going to win Super Bowl.
Kyle Shanahan, he always blows it in the big games.
I don't know.
He was up in two Super Bowls.
It's like, well, he blew the 28 to 3 game.
He wasn't the head coach.
I've watched Kyle Shanahan now very closely,
especially since 2019.
He's had good teams.
He's fucking good.
Narratives change so fast in sports, right?
Andy Reid can't win the big one
and then he wins three
and now it's like Andy Reid he's like
Bill Walsh
so it's like I
the Michael LeBron thing
you're 26 so you were born in what
2000 you never even saw Michael play in his prime
you know the crazy part about Michael Jordan
is I would say he's
most known for by a large percentage of people
for the post baseball stretch
when he played with Rodman
he was a much better and more explosive player
in like 89, 90, 91, 92, 93.
If you just YouTube the 91 or 92 Bulls
and watch him and Scotty Pippen,
it's like watching two fucking lions.
The speed and the ferocity in which those two operate,
especially Michael, it was like,
this guy was playing a different sport athletically.
and like listen he won six championships
you probably should have multiple more MVPs
that got taken by other guys
I'm a Michael guy
but I also grew up on Michael
and I grew up on the Michael mania
it's like I can't relate to the 80s
when I go to Fox
when I get picked up and taken to the airport
Fox has a service right
so usually during the week
or during that day I just have an Uber
because I got to get to the facility or whatever
But from the airport, it's usually a long drive to the hotel,
and then leaving the facility when I'm taken off,
that they have, like, Fox.
And they, obviously, they're in the entertainment business.
So I'm always talking to the drivers about celebrities.
Like, what's this guy like?
What's this guy? Tell me stories.
And they always say, like, Eddie Murphy's the coolest guy.
Or Mike Tyson.
The last guy I was with it, he's like, I love Mike Tyson when I drive him around.
I can't relate to Mike Tyson's fame in the height of the 80s.
or Eddie Murphy.
I was too young.
Or Magic and Bird.
I don't really remember that.
Because I wasn't old enough.
I don't remember Joe Montana and John Elway and Dan Marino in the 80s.
But if you talk to people that are older than me that lived through it,
they go, that was fucking incredible.
So it's also based on what you know.
I feel very comfortable talking about Roy McElroy,
Tom Brady, right, Steph Curry, you know, Barry Bonds.
Guys, I watch, Steve Young, Aaron Rogers.
I could argue about people that I didn't really see.
Who cares?
Here's the other thing about these debates,
especially if it's an era thing, we'll never know.
We'll never know.
Because if we could know,
it's like if we could take the 2017 Warriors and LeBron's Heat
and Michael's team, here's what I know.
It would save the NBA ratings.
30 million people would watch Michael and Scotty in their prime,
playing LeBron it in his prime.
I'll promise you that.
We'll never know.
It's like the draft.
Well, he should have drafted this guy five years later.
Well, there's never been a redraft in the history of life.
Because that's not how it works.
My wife and friends watched the Masters.
Absolutely loved it.
We found ourselves rooting for other players over Rory,
especially after knowing that Rory had been practicing
at Augusta National leading up to the Masters.
It made us think.
he should win this tournament.
It wasn't as impressive.
Are we wrong?
These guys play this tournament every year.
Scottie Sheffler, who just finished second,
which he was incredible on Saturday and Sunday.
I mean, he's...
In a weird way, Rory was 12 under on Thursday and Friday.
Scotty was 11 under on Saturday and Sunday,
and the difference was clear, I mean, literally one shot.
But if you watch Rory on Friday,
Thursday and Friday. And Scotty over the weekend, Scotty was better. Rory pulled some shots out of his
ass on Friday. I said this yesterday on the golf pod. Like, Rory had a C plus game. Scottie's had his,
even on Saturday or on Friday when Rory went low, because he's like chipping out and he's making
some great wed shots, birdies. Scottie was incredible. How many times Scottie played this
course? And Scotty as a champion can go play whenever he wants.
So all these guys play it before.
They have access to it, especially the guys who have won the tournament or own a green jacket.
So I don't think it takes away from it at all.
This is the one major that goes there every single year.
Now, if you told me he had just won the U.S. Open and everyone else was playing two or three weeks leading up,
and he didn't, and all he was doing is playing there.
But like, Phil and Tiger did that shit all the time.
So it doesn't take away from it at all.
Golf is not like that.
Here's the other thing.
In golf, the course changes.
So if you play the course a month before,
it is not the course you play,
which sounds crazy because for most of us,
it wouldn't matter.
But for these guys,
I see it at TBC Scottsdale.
If you play TBC Scottsdale a month before,
it is not the same course that they play during the tournament.
Or two weeks before.
for.
Because they may be watering it more.
They may be watering it less.
They may cut down the rough.
They may leave it up.
So they make subtle changes even around the tournament.
Roy's been playing in the Masters since 2019.
I mean, I don't know the math, but I'm sure just tournament rounds,
he probably has as many rounds.
He has more rounds on the course than anyone I would imagine if we looked that just
finished in the top 20, besides maybe like Justin Rose.
So no, it does not take away from it.
That's not a thing in golf.
With all the talk of how bad a quarterback class this is,
I know everyone is hyping up Ty Simpson,
but he's small, mid-tier arm, and okay mobility.
I think Aller may be the second best quarterback.
While he is not particularly polished,
arm strength is elite and ideal size.
Also, who do you think is a better prospect,
Fernando Mendoza or Cam Ward?
I would say this.
I wanted to like Drew Aller.
I have, you know, when I lived in Philly, I know multiple Penn State guys who were telling me like four years ago.
Rumor is we got Josh Allen 2.0 in the roster.
And I just remember, I gave him a little bit of a pass his first year starting, but the second year,
I thought that team should have won the national championship, or at least been in the national championship against O'Ill State.
And there is just something missing when you watch them.
There just is.
there's like an instinctive element to his game that I don't know
I'm kind of out on I'm not a Drew Aller guy
and I'm typically size big arm
but you got to be able to play the position
and I don't see it
so to me I would not draft Ty Simpson
probably like
before the third day of the draft
I don't know if I'd do Drew Aller
he's got a little Hakenberg 2.0 to me.
To me, the Mendoza Ward thing is,
what kind of offense do I run?
Because if I run the Kubiak-Shannahan offense,
I do think that Fernando Mendoza makes more sense.
If I'm Andy Reed,
I think Andy Reid would rather have Cam Ward.
Clearly, Brian Dayball likes Cam Ward a lot too.
So some of these guys,
I think they're pretty similar.
I've heard nothing but bad things about Cam Ward off the field.
He definitely has more giddy up in the arm.
Probably a better athlete, though Fernando Mendoza is probably an underrated athlete.
Mendoza's bigger.
There's a freelance element to Cam Ward.
I just think it depends on the scheme.
I think the Raiders, if they have the choice between the two guys,
would take Fernando Mendoza.
Can we get an updye?
update on the BPC peptide.
I'm 29 and think you could optimize my gut and recovery.
What did your take on how it's been?
I haven't, I think I've lost a little weight,
but I don't know if I've noticed substantial changes.
But they also told me it can take six to eight weeks
in the dissolvable,
the way in which I'm taking it.
I think I'm in my, this is going to be week five,
maybe week six.
Maybe I'm going into week six.
So I've definitely felt some differences in my gut, health,
but a lot of that to me is diet.
And when I eat the right foods, I get good flow.
When I don't, I don't.
So a lot of it's on me.
I mean, I enjoy taking the peptides.
I guess I feel like I have more energy.
But I can't say like through four or five weeks,
I can tell you specific differences.
It's not like GLP ones.
where you just, you know, I started looking like a skeleton two months later.
In past years, why have bad teams drafted quarterbacks when they had terrible O-line and weapons?
I feel like a team could get a haul by trading back and then they'd get draft pieces before you get a quarterback.
Well, twofold.
One, if you really like the quarterback, you just take the quarterback.
And two, there is a lot of pressure.
There's pressure from your owner.
There's pressure from the fans.
your job status.
I think it's a lot easier said than done and go, like,
we don't have a quarterback.
We need a quarterback.
This guy that we like, the team likes,
but our team sucks.
Another team wants to trade up and get,
and we're going to trade back just to draft guards
and linebackers and wide receivers.
Well, if that guy becomes a top 12 quarterback,
and we don't have a quarterback,
we're going to get fired.
Look at how many guys the Jets drafted who were good players,
but they couldn't figure out the quarterback, and it blew up in their face.
If they would have picked the right quarterback, no, granted, you know,
Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Zach, well, Mac Jones, all the guys they would have picked
probably would have failed.
But you can draft well, and if you don't have a quarterback, you were done.
So that's why.
I hear what you're saying, and I think there's logic to what you're.
you're saying, it's just not going to happen.
Are folks starting to wonder
if Malik Neighbors is injury
prone or a possible bust?
I know he's talented, but he can't stay healthy.
I think this is a massive year for Malik
Neighbors. I think Malik
neighbors a little side out of mind.
But you get Harbaugh,
you get Nagy, who's
passing offense, you got this young
quarterback.
This is the type of year where it's like
Malik Neighbors, 1500 yards,
95 catches.
8 to 10 touchdowns
and just be a complete ass kicker.
So I think the one thing that takes a little of
the negative surrounding,
like no one wants to get injured.
You think he wants to tear his ACL or get a concussion?
The other guys in his class drafted high
have not set the world on fire.
I mean, Marvin Harrison has been extremely underwhelming
and this is a huge year for Rome.
So I think that helps.
If one of those two guys had been like Justin Jefferson or Jamar Chase,
now granted, Marvin went before Malik.
So let's say if Rome had been like a top 7, 8, top 10 wide receiver in the league,
then I think it'd be a bigger talking point.
My question is how does the studio set up work with UNLA and Colin in Chicago?
Is there a big screen in both studios so you can see each other?
and does that make it more difficult than when you're in the same place?
Been wondering about this since Colin moved.
I don't know what it looks like from his vantage point,
but for mine, I just look into a camera and there's like,
I would guess, 50-inch TV or monitor right below it,
and I can just see him.
So it's a little farther away than when I record a podcast with him on Zoom,
but it's essentially the same thing.
And I've done it enough.
I've watched a show forever.
I know the cadence and the rhythm.
So you just kind of know.
And there's no delay.
So I can just have a conversation with them.
So it's not that difficult from my end, I would say.
But I basically just talk into a camera and look at a monitor.
How do you think the Saints will do this year?
We cleared some dead cap money and a good draft away from being relevant again.
Are we some cleared dead cap money and a good draft away?
I'm picking the Saints to win the division.
As I sit here on April 13th, they got a high pick.
I would imagine they're going to have some good players after this draft.
If I really like their draft, I'm going to feel very confident about it.
But as I sit here April 13th in the afternoon, the Saints are my pick to win the NFC South.
You mentioned that it's not a star-studded draft because there aren't any quarterbacks.
Could this draft instead be prep for next year's potential quarterback draft,
loading up on O-Linman and other players to help those future quarterbacks?
If so, which team do you think could benefit the most from this approach?
Well, I think the Jets and the Browns are just, I mean, they got multiple picks.
You got the Jets having the Colts pick next year.
I think those teams are circling how do we get one of those quarterbacks next year.
I'm always hesitant to say that because things change so dramatically.
You just never know.
But also on the positive, you get a guy, like no one had Fernando Mendoza.
going number one last year at this time.
No one had Baker Mayfield or Joe Burrow going number one.
See, you just never know.
This isn't basketball where you can be a year out,
and you go up, you know, Cooper Flag,
AJ DeBonsa, Darren Peterson,
you just know these guys.
In football, I think sometimes you know at positions.
Jeremiah Smith right now,
sometimes there's like some incredible,
like the Bosa brothers or a tackle,
like a Trent Williams or, you know, some incredible corner.
Derek Stingley after his freshman year, like this guy's a top 10 talent.
Quarterback can be very hit or miss because the pressure, you play shitty,
you just things change really quick.
So I'm always extremely reluctant to just announce so-and-so is the top two, three pick next year.
I would say Dante Moore, lock top three or four pick,
but hey, who knows?
Comment for the mailbag.
Welcome to fatherhood.
Nothing better and more challenging.
I enjoy it when you just say Navy, all caps, seals.
Maybe because I'm just a has-been former SEAL.
Sneaky badass.
Anyway, I'm excited about the draft.
It will be the first time in the past five years that I actually will be able to watch it.
Just do busy doing missions, kicking ass.
Did you know that we had a draft of sorts at SEAL Team?
6, Jesus, SEAL Team 6 member.
And at the end of our selection,
each of the squadrons drafted
operators off of certain
measurable's reputation and fit.
That's pretty cool.
You don't want to fuck with SEAL Team 6.
Do you see any scenario where Ty Simpson
could be drafted by the Rams?
He's local where I live,
and I know for a fact that
the UT Martin quarterback, who signed with,
was cut from the Rams practice squad last year,
was his mentor in high school.
Also, with Matt Stafford nearing retirement
and Jimmy Garoppel potentially having some trade value,
could that open the door for a young quarterback like Simpson?
Jimmy Garoppel is technically a free agent right now.
He's not on the Rams.
But everyone I see is like they're going to take Mackay Lemon.
They're going to take a wide receiver.
I mentioned this to Colin last week.
When do the one, they've had like three picks in 15 years.
So they rarely have first round picks.
and they definitely rarely draft this high.
So if they get the opportunity,
you never know how the draft's going to shake out.
What if a really good offensive lineman is there, a tackle?
You're going to take a wide receiver over the tackle.
Get a wide receiver later in the draft.
The two best Rams wide receivers in the McVeigh era
are a third round pick, Cooper Cup,
and a fifth round pick,
almost said McCai Lemon,
Pooka Nakua.
So you have a guy who can find wide receivers
and turn them into superstars,
Super Bowl MVP's,
and all pro players,
and you're going to use your 13th pick
when you can get a lineman
on a wide receiver?
I don't know, man.
With Vrable and Rossini,
do you think he is feeding her A.J. Brown to the patch rumors?
Well, I think it's fair to assume
that some of her Vrable reporting
is coming from Mike Vrable.
I also think this.
it's like, well, how's she getting this information?
Well, that doesn't change Howie Roseman.
I have AJ Brown, and this is what I'm willing to trade him for.
Part of the Mike Vrable A.J. Brown thing is,
Mike Vrable loved A.J. Brown with the Titans.
He did not want to trade A.J. Brown to the Eagles, which was pretty clear, right?
So the connection, whether they're sleeping together, whether she didn't even exist,
would have been pretty evident.
Oh, yeah, they don't really have wide receivers.
You know, they got Kyle Williams, they just drafted Dobbs.
They could kind of use AJ Brown.
They have this young quarterback, need to get some help.
I just think that, I think media is way more worried.
Now, you could argue, like, sleeping to get information is,
what if they're in love?
Seriously, what if they're in love?
Would that change the conversation if they both leave each other significant others
and just start dating.
They're okay.
You love who you love.
But here's my thing.
As a consumer and doing what I do,
whether it's a dude,
dudes are doing shady shit to get information to.
They might not have to do sexual favors,
but like,
how do you think this world works?
I don't care how you get the information.
Give me the information.
I'm in the business of reacting to it.
I don't care how a story breaks.
Just break the story and then I'll talk about it.
The media is really, because there was a story today.
There are employees at the New York Times who are pissed.
I'm sure there are, because it makes them look bad,
takes away their credibility.
But where I'm sitting as a podcaster, who does this for a bit,
I don't give a shit how Adam Schaefter breaks his news.
I don't care.
Diane receipt, just give me the story.
Right?
Tweet it out.
That's the business I'm in.
So whether you question my, uh, my morgue.
Orals, I don't care.
I actually don't think most fans care.
The reason fans like this story is like salacious.
You know, these two people who are married,
because again, I say this all the time,
most people like myself, you guys listening,
are, if you're married, it's like baseball.
You don't have like rules in the house
what you're allowed and not allowed to do.
It's unwritten rules.
But, you know, and let's face it,
If any of us were caught in that situation,
and you showed my wife, me holding hands,
I'd be fucked, just like you would.
It would not be good.
And that's why most of us are just enamored with this.
And then the element that she's a reporter and Vrable,
who just, I don't know, had a team in the Super Bowl.
It's a slated story.
But I saw someone say this the other day.
Like, they have to feel,
I don't, Vrable might not care.
she has to feel like her world is collapsing
when most people talking about it just find it funny
and are texting each other back and forth,
making fun of the situation.
Because I'm on text threads with that.
No one actually cares that much.
I'm going to a bachelor trip for my brother-in-law
and his best man, I'm his best man in the wedding.
Currently projected to be a third or fourth rounder.
As a die-hard NFL fan,
I have so many questions I want to ask
about the NFL draft process
in college and talking with
NFL teams. However, I'm not trying to hound a guy like you. You ever been in the situation before
where you meet someone kind of famous outside of work and all you do is talk strictly about football?
I would say most humans I have an interaction with, whether they're famous or whether they're not,
if we spend some time talking, we end up talking about football. It is my great connector.
It's the way to interact with other people. Talk about football, sports.
it's always been my love language with other men.
Right?
It's the easiest way to establish a relationship.
Talk about sports.
The older I've gotten, talk a little business.
But sports and business are the easiest way to have a conversation.
For me, that's my end to make, because let's face it,
you meet some people.
If you have nothing in common, you don't know each other.
If you find yourself in a situation where you're talking,
like a lot of men, common interest is like, that talks on football.
It's an easy conversation sort.
And obviously, for me, it comes up like, what do you do?
You start telling them, and then you end up talking about it.
Chance they don't take Mendoza slash he sits for a year.
Cameron sent me this graphic that 51% under Kubiak snaps under center for the quarterback.
For Fernando Mendoza, five snaps under center, his entire,
college career.
I think that's why they brought in cousins to not only mentor him from just what it's like
to be a pro, but on the field stuff.
Show them how to make the transition.
Now, if I remember correctly, cousins coming out of college was under center in Michigan
State.
So yeah, it's always a question mark.
But most scouts will tell you when you go to the senior bowl, when a lot of these
schools, these guys aren't under center, you know.
So if you are worth, you know, I would say most quarterbacks can make the transition.
But it's always a question.
You spend a lot of time on Dad Diaries and it got me thinking,
how would you compare getting married, ideally a lifetime commitment,
with having your first child,
another lifetime commitment that shifts after they're 18 years old?
Obviously, both bring big senses of responsibility, love, and so on,
Getting married and dating someone to me is relatively easy.
Obviously, you have different phases in your relationship.
To me, the child thing is just,
it's hard to even describe.
One, the sense of responsibility, the intensity,
the strain it has on your relationship just from a sense of not sleeping,
the burden it puts on her.
It's really hard.
Being married and dating was easy.
Your human beings, you know, you have good times, you have bad times.
but it was not very difficult.
This is just intense.
I also think it's really hard when they're super young
to think about what they're going to be like
when they're 15 years old.
You're just trying to like make it to the next month.
So you're not...
I told someone this week at the wedding.
I said I do think a big difference between men and women
is like, someone asked me,
is it harder than you thought it was going to be?
I'm like, I just always thought I wanted kids.
I never thought what it was going to be like with kids.
It's like, I wanted to be married one day.
I wasn't thinking.
thinking about the wedding. I just wanted to be married, right? Where women, I think think about their
wedding day. I never once thought about my wedding day my entire life until I got engaged and then
you have to like prepare for the wedding. But I just thought about getting married, right? No different.
Like, I always wanted children. I didn't think of what it was going to be like once you have the children
beside, you know, some basic like, this is what I want to teach them. This is how I kind of want to be a parent.
But I didn't, like, what's the, what's the three months been like?
I don't, it's been hard as fuck.
But I never thought about, like, every single human that had kids that I knew,
I wasn't like taking notes seven, eight, ten, twelve years ago.
So I, you're just kind of in survival mode early on.
It's hard for me to think, it's probably like a football team in training camp.
You're not thinking about week eight, week eight,
in August 8.
I'm in like early training camp.
It's hard for me to think about the season.
Just trying to just get by day to day.
Not have any injuries.
Not have any crazy headline stories of negative stuff.
Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers.
And guess what?
We have some big news.
What's the news,
huge news?
We created our own podcast called,
Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it.
We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
Pretty, yeah, pretty wide.
range of podcasts throughout there.
But this one's extra special.
So how do we actually come up with a name
Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about
what we should call it.
We were thinking I'm originally
calling it one of the early
names of our band
before Jonas Brothers.
This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes. I have a very different memory of this.
We were talking about a thing,
a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say,
Hey, Jonas.
and then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast.
But thanks for remembering that, guys.
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That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.
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We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves.
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The point of school and education, or comment for the podcast, is not just to learn when the
declaration of independence was signed, as you can learn anything you want online now.
It's to help develop your critical thinking and problem-solving abilities.
While AI will certainly help, you will still need to problem-solve and,
learn how to better use those tools.
Sorry, I keep hearing you mention that the use of school will be for your future son and hope my explanation helps.
I'd push back a little bit on that, though.
You know, I was talking to a buddy, like, a lot of times in high school, I cheated.
Copy and homework.
Like, I never, after probably elementary school and junior high, learning basic stuff, got any value in the classroom.
Because most of my teachers just got up there at PowerPoint.
PowerPoint, PowerPoint.
And this was through college.
And then you just had a test.
And you kind of had to regurgitate what you learned.
I just don't think for me, maybe for some of you.
And obviously, I've never acted like school doesn't benefit.
One of the dudes that just went to the moon, Victor Glover,
was an engineering student at Cal Poly.
His experience in college, learning whatever he was being taught in those really,
difficult classes was a lot different than mine.
I don't remember one thing from a classroom from college or high school.
Not fucking one.
You know?
And my point is, I learned to problem solve actually through playing sports, on the football
team, with my friends.
He's kind of figured it out.
Not in school.
I'm not anti-education.
it's pretty well established historically educated people,
especially with college degrees or master's degrees,
first those of them without them
in terms of their earning power.
That's undeniable.
It's not an opinion, it's a fact.
So I'm not acting like you just should drop out of junior high.
No.
But I'm also like,
this is a lived experience.
I lived it.
It's like we can't argue about COVID anymore.
I lived it, you lived it.
Like, these aren't opinions.
I went through it.
Hell, I was going to different states.
So I can give you opinions on what was going on in Southern California,
Northern California, and Arizona.
And for whatever reason, they were fucking dramatically different in this state than that one.
I lived it.
It wasn't just like, well, these are opinions.
No, this is what actually happened.
I see people still arguing about it.
It's like, the arguments are over.
Like, the evidence is in.
Like, we did it.
The evidence on education,
for a lot of people, and you're seeing it right now,
that a lot of people took out huge,
and I'm talking more, especially college,
these huge loans to get these worthless degrees
and can't get a job now.
So it's like, I just think these questions have to be asked
as we move forward.
I'm not anti-learning.
I say it all the time.
I've never learned more than I do now.
but it's because a podcast, the ability to find stuff on the internet.
Like, it's just, it's changed my life.
Chad GBT.
Also, how do Puka's rehab impact his contract?
I mean, I think he's not.
Contract didn't happen in for a while.
And also, everyone's experience is different.
I was with my buddy who I went to high school with Drew Coker,
who was in the military, who's now like, has like a,
essentially like a secret service job.
for a pretty prominent politician.
His wife is a doctor.
You know,
so her
outlook on education
is different than mine.
But also,
and a lot of you can relate.
Like, if you're in a lot of different,
most humans are in some form or fashion in sales.
Most of these degrees,
and maybe they will start having degrees based on sales,
aren't really teaching that.
You just kind of, I don't know,
figure it out on your own.
And it's like, well, you figured out the problem-solving skills you learned in junior high.
No, I just kind of figured those out on my own.
Through interacting with other humans, playing sports, having friends.
I learned shit in the trenches of life.
When you co-host Colin's show, is that something that's paid through Fox amount per appearance,
like a 1099 employee?
Or is that something where Colin goes, John?
Come, co-host my show.
Side note, I understand where Jack Jack was coming from on Easter.
The bunny is a creep.
My mother-in-law put on a bunny suit the other day.
I think I mentioned this the other day that it's through Fox.
Everything that I do for this podcast is paid through a company that I created that then I pay myself.
It's pretty, you know, good, you know, advantageous, especially in this low state income tax that I live in.
But I was talking to my accountant and we were going to do.
get just paid through a 1099, but he's like, it's in California.
It becomes complicated.
That story that went viral on, uh, on Sam Darnold with like days that you're there.
And he's like just, because Fox just naturally when you do something like that, whatever your rate is,
100 bucks, a thousand bucks.
Tom Brady 37.
They just pay you as a W2 employee.
And you can go through a process of going through an LLC.
But the amount, I don't do it that many.
times. Like, you know, it's just easier. Just have them take out the taxes W-2 and it's just
whatever. So I was like, yeah, I just get paid through them. The taxes are being taken out,
which is, I mean, I haven't been a W-2 employee. I'm not like their employee, but I get paid
W-2 style when I do essentially 1099 work. And it doesn't necessarily matter for me because
my entire life is a 1099 job, which was weird. I was pretty rattled because we established a
rate and I first get paid.
used to like, you owe me X, I see X.
Then I expense everything out.
That's the big advantage you have when you own a business.
You know, you kind of live through it.
And listen, you're taking all the risk.
Like, you're not guaranteed anything.
So you first, you do this and you see the number.
You're like, something's off here.
So then you start emailing that you're talking to the accounting services.
Then my accountant's like, it's not enough to even worry about just to have them take out the taxes.
And let's move on.
It's like, okay.
Quick comment, question for the bag.
Packer fan.
And constantly hear Green Bay draft and develop,
but recent history would seem to prove otherwise.
They have been disappointing at best.
Golden, Morgan, Vanness, Wyatt,
Quay Walker, Stokes combined for zero Pro Bowls.
My question is this.
Do you think the Packers' reputation
needs to be re-evaluated?
We have our first round picks.
They've been so underwhelming.
In an era when teams like the Lions and the Eagles
have drafted superstars left and right,
I can't help but feel the Packers Edge is becoming their Achilles heel.
I would say this.
The league is about spending cash.
So if you look at the teams who spend the most,
the majority of them are good.
It's like the Eagles, the Niners, the Bills, the Chiefs, the Broncos.
So there's a difference between salary cap and spending cash.
I have to look where the Packers fall
probably a little higher after acquiring
Micah
but historically they've only
you know their two claim to fame's free agency
have been Reggie White
and Aaron
and I almost said Aaron Rodger
and Charles Woodson
now Reggie White was a big deal
relative to the time
I mean he was like one of the greatest players
of all time
Charles was like an undervalued asset at the time
but they don't
like the Micah Parsons
trade was kind of
out of character, right?
So I think they're going to have to, drafting is hard.
And, you know, every one of those individual players, you know, Van S wasn't even a starter.
Morgan, I think is going to be fine.
Who the other guy?
Golden, I think it's going to be a good player too.
Quay Walker now is on the Raiders.
Drafting is hard.
But they are going to have to get aggressive with spending.
And only Goudicans truly knows how complicated that can be.
with his organizational structure.
But yeah, I mean, they're going to have a lot of new players on the team this year.
Like, a lot of their core group that they won a lot of games with,
a lot of them are on different teams now.
You know, fuck, they just trade another dude to the Eagles.
For the mailback.
What do you think of this ABS idea?
What if every time you get an ABS challenge, right, you get a plus one challenge.
teams would incentivize to use them early
adding a new strategic element.
Also, if you have more CB situations,
would you stack challenges?
I think the crowd reaction on Challenge 27
would be electric.
Oh, in the 9th.
So you're just simply talking baseball,
not related to football.
I think there's a fine balance.
You know, we are talking
human beings playing other human beings,
and like I do miss the human element a little bit
but I wonder if in 10 years
is everything truly going to be automated
where it's like 100% you know that's right or wrong
now football it can be subjective in baseball
if you see the box it's a striker ball
right the guy's either safer he's out
like it's very black and white right
where in football like holding
catches
past interference
it's way more subjective.
I haven't watched that much baseball to start this season.
I've seen a lot of people talk about it,
saying that this is an incredible technology,
which essentially I think I was reading about it.
You start the game with two, right?
And you can challenge it at any time,
and it goes really fast.
One problem with football and basketball
is sometimes the replay technology takes too long.
It's like, guys, we've got to pick.
In basketball, it's just, it's insane.
in college basketball and the NBA,
how long end-of-game situations happen.
So I'm a huge pace of play guy.
I played golf when I was in Los Angeles.
We played in three hours and ten minutes.
It was super nice club.
We just member took my buddy who works for the guy
and it was just kind of like hit and go.
Honestly, played pretty good.
And it was just go, go, go.
And it was awesome.
It's like you don't even have that much time to think.
You get around the hole,
you just kind of tap in and you just move.
You just, you know, you mark your ball and stuff at like longer puts,
but it was about pace of play.
And I think that's what people are looking for now.
Let's be efficient, let's move.
And I think sometimes when the replay gets involved on subjective stuff,
it can be really hard.
You know, when a guy slides into second base and they do the, you know,
circle their hands or whatever, it can go pretty quick.
He's out, boom, gone.
football and basketball
it's just not the case
golf could be like that
you're calling a rules official
you know the masters you're waiting forever
it's like oh my god
I saw the guy
Scotty Sheffler was playing with on Sunday
how Tong Lee
who got a 10 on whole 13
was like in the trees
called over rules official
I think it took him like eight or nine
minutes to hit a shot and Scotty's
just got he just went for a walk
because you had to wait.
No one wants to do that.
Obviously, sometimes you need to figure some stuff out,
but I think a huge element to modern day sports is go, go, go, go, hurry, hurry.
Now get it right, but like people like action.
And the moment that you halt the action for long periods of time,
might lose a consumer.
You might lose the eyeballs, which is what all these people
are in business now for. Keep people
watching. Adios.
Talk to you tomorrow.
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Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe.
I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what?
We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
We invented a podcast?
Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
We're the first people to do podcasts.
We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.
Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick.
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