The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - The Big Game's Best Bets with Action Network's, Stuckey

Episode Date: February 4, 2026

John is joined by betting guru, Stuckey from The Action Network to dive into the Super Bowl's best prop bets and who they think is going win from a betting perspective. All that and more! Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest.  All lines provided by Hard Rock Bet Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #VolumeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with Stucky. And I was going to put it out on Monday, but like I said earlier this week, we had some stuff come up. So I realized I'm going to be traveling, might not be able to record one, don't want to skip a day. So let's put them out today on Wednesday,

and that is what we're going to do. So this will be our talk with Stucky from all things gambling. I mean, the line hasn't changed. The storylines and the themes of these two teams obviously haven't changed. We don't have much clarity on this Drake May injury. I mean, he's going to play.

Sam Darnold, I was told he was hurt, and then his oblique looked fine. He was slinging it all over the last couple of weeks. So, yeah, we'll hit everything from betting on the game to the trends to some props. We'll kind of dive deep into this matchup, which, Super Bowl 60. I almost said San Francisco, California. The Super Bowl festivities are in San Francisco.

The game is in Santa Clara, Levi Stadium. which I've seen a lot of football games there. And I actually saw the one and only Super Bowl that they hosted when the Broncos upset the Panthers. It didn't feel like an upset to me, but they technically, by gambling standpoint, were a several-point underdog. I think it closed like one and a half,

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So you never, ever miss an episode. We really appreciate you guys for riding along, coming along on this journey, which is a little football daily talk as we do right here. So let's dive in to Stucky. Back again, bittersweet because the season is coming to an end. But before we hit record, we were talking college basketball. We were talking Mario Cristobal, who, you know, Davo goes on this rant about Ole Miss. But the University of Miami, they will steal any player in their path.

And obviously we got the Super Bowl because Seattle takes on the New England Patriots at Levi's Stadium. where the last time San Francisco hosted that bad boy, there was, I don't want to say a big upset, but the Denver Broncos were an underdog against the Carolina Panthers and your boy who attended that game at the time. I mean, I definitely didn't have enough money to put, I think I put a total of around $5,000 on the Broncos. And it was an very uncomfortable amount of money at the time a decade ago. And it was sweet. And I was there around the 50-yard line. That was badass.

And now we get a game. First of the game safety. Right? Was that the Super Bowl? No, that was Denver, Seattle. This was like... Oh, you're right. Yep, yep, yep, got it.

That was the Cam Newton. Don't go after the ball one. Yeah, this was the, I think the first drive, Peyton had the noodle arm, but they drove and they scored. And then I felt so comfortable with Denver because I was doing like local radio postgame shows for the Raiders. So I was just watching these teams in person, and watching that Denver team for like the three-plus.

years. Their defense was incredible. Their D-Line, Vaughn Miller and his prime, Ware was still elite, Malik Jackson, and Derek Wolf. People forget, Derek Wolf and Malik Jackson were a problem inside. Travathan, Brandon Marshall, all their DBs, T.J. Ward, they had a bunch of cover corners. Remember Chris Harris Jr. was their slot guy? They wrecked shop on defense. Now, Peyton's arm didn't work, but if that defense was playing right now

in the NFL would be the number one defense by far. Funny thing about that Super Bowl, I mean, there's a lot of, like, revisionists. People like, well, you know, as time passes, you people remember certain things. Like, it's all about, like, the Ravens winning the Super Bowl in 2012. People think because there was Ray Lewis and Ed Reed that was all about their defense. But they were over the hill their defense stunk. That was all Joe Flacco just going on a miraculous run. And then that Broncos team, people think, oh, it's Peyton Manning.

No, that was all about the defense. The second, so Emmanuel Sanders had six catches in that game. The second leading receiver in a game that the Broncos won comfortably was Andre Caldwell who had one catch for 22 yards. That's it. Owen Daniels had one catch for 18 yards and that's basically the entire pat. I mean, Manning was 13 to 23 for 140 yards in an interception. That defense was legit right on par with this historically good Seattle defense.

Well, if they would have had like, again, because I was seeing that team live, the peak manning of like three years previously, the guy that won the MVP and threw 55 touchdowns, if that version would have been on that team, I mean, I think it would have gone down as like one of the greatest teams of all time. Because the offense, when he first got there, was unstoppable. And then it kind of rotated. And they kind of met in the middle the pre, the two years before when they played Seattle, like this team's incredible. They sunk it up in that Super Bowl. but then his arm didn't work. People forget he got benched for Osweiler that year. Remember Elway had to give him kind of a talk.

You know, like, hey, man, this is, it was like, did he get bench? And then he went to Kubiak's office and Elway was sitting there. And then they asked him to take a pay cut, you know, it was kind of getting weird. But it won the Super Bowl and, you know, time heals all kind of weirdness. And no one even remembers that. It's like, oh, I paid Manning. Yeah, it's pretty insane that. of just how cooked he was and how much it didn't matter

because the defense was just that good. And yeah, we're looking at... How many defensive players have ever won the MVP? Definitely in the last 25 years. Is he the only one? No. What's his name on the Bucks? Dexter Jackson won it on the Bucks.

The weird thing about Dexter Jackson winning it, and Malcolm Smith for the Seahawks. Ray Lewis won it, but back, that was in 2000. And then there was a couple before then in the 70s and 80s. One of the guys on the Cowboys won it, the DB, and then Al Davis signed him. I forget his name. Not Darren Woodson, but I thought like in 94 or 95 maybe, am I? Larry Brown.

Is that it? Yeah. And then there was a defensive player who won MVP from a losing team. which is something that... Is that possible in football? Like it is in hockey, you know, when they give the cons smite like the goalie in a game seven.

I think it's happened before. Pretty rare, but I feel that football, it'd be impossible. Because Brady made the argument that one year when he threw 500 yards and they lost the Eagles. Yeah, I mean, it's pretty... It's amazing to think. I mean, the Colts beat the Cowboys 16-13.

It was known as the blunt... This was in the early 70s. It was known as the Blunder Bowl. And the Colts won in the last second field goal. There was just turnovers. There was nothing but turnovers the entire game. It was the first game ever played on artificial turf. And, yeah, a linebacker, Chuck Halley, won the MVP.

So there was 12 turnovers in the game, if you can believe that. I feel like the Super Bowl MVP. I don't know. It's like when you bring up Cooper Cup, maybe it's just the time. It was 2021. You know, I don't,

because for Edelman, I feel it sticks, but he was part of 283. It's like probably one of the most famous games and like, definitely of our lifetime. I'm not even Super Bowl, non-super Bowl,

whatever, like no one ever, 283 is just a, just a moment that most people don't forget. I feel like Cooper Cup, most people don't really remember. Like, if you just like,

hey, I introduced you to Cooper Cup. Like, oh, that dude that played for the Rams. It was really good. Wide receiver. for a long time. Do you think people would be like, oh, that's Super Bowl MVP? No, that's true. I mean, yeah, the Super Bowl MVP, you had that Bond, you had Bond Miller in 2016, Malcolm Smith in 2014. But, I mean, going back to, other than that, if you go all the way

back to, you know, the past 20 years, it's just quarterbacks and receivers. So, I mean, there is a world where this is just a super, defensive low-scoring game. Well, the quarterback's hurt. I mean, obviously we've seen Darnold, but what about the other guy? Yeah, May, I mean, they say there could be a shoulder. I don't think it's going to be much,

but, yeah, we don't know as of right now. I'm not reading too much into it, but, yeah, I mean, there's a chance that May isn't 100%. There's a chance that Darnold's oblique flares up. I mean, he's looked fine and he has two more weeks, but you never know. I'm not a doctor. But if this is like a super low-scoring game,

and I mean, look, the Seahawks all year have been scoring on defense, special teams, you know, which could bring like Shahid into it. I mean, if you go back to that Rams Seahawks Week 16 game, which looking back is probably the most important game of the season, that enabled them to win the division, that comeback, get the one seed. it sent the Rams all around the country and then having to come to Seattle and Seattle got to buy and then, you know,

a blowout win, got to stay on. Seattle hasn't lost a game since the middle of November. Yeah, but that, I mean, that game was so huge for them. But you could argue in that game. I mean, there was too many points. You would probably give it to Darnold. I mean, really, if that game was the Super Bowl, there was a case that it, that it was,

Buka, who had, 12 catches for 250 yards. But really the MVP of the game was Shaheed for that punt return that flipped the game. So if this is a really low-scoring game and like Chehid has a big punt return, but I could see this being one where a defensive player maybe, now, picking who it is,

good luck, put a blindfold on a bunch of defenders. I mean, look, like Malcolm Smith and Dexter Jackson have won it. I know. So, yeah, I mean, it is in Seattle's defense kind of built like that, Like, it's not like there's Vaughn Miller and Aaron Donald. They kind of a group. Yeah. I mean, even Worey's, he's the guys making a ton of plays.

So, but yeah, there's, it's just there's a lot of players all over. But it's usually like who we get a random pick six and that's so random. But I, you know, most likely it's going to be the quarterback. The one exception, the one exception over the past 20 years is when there is a receiver who just dominates the box score. And there's not much other scoring. So like a 21, say the Seahawks win 2113, JSN has eight catches for 128 yards and two touchdowns. And, you know, the Seacawks had another rushing touchdown. You know, then you're probably going to give it to JSN.

Like, that's been the trend with some of these other receivers who have won it. And JSN certainly fits that profile, right? He's a target monster. He's had huge games where he's, you know, you have a bunch of other guys. of one or two catches. Shehid might catch a bomb. You know, you throw it to some of your tight ends. I mean, shit, he dominated in the NFC championship game.

He had catches that didn't even count. They were incredible. Yeah, his hands are ridiculous. Some of the one-handed catches that he has are insane. I mean, watching him versus puka is just awesome. Oh, sick. But I am so curious to see, I mean, like, I could talk about this stuff all day. But schematically, what's going to end up deciding a lot of this

and a lot of the player props, is how these defensive coordinators and coaches decide to approach this game and additionally the adjustments they make within the game. So if this was Belichick, and obviously this Patriots coaching staff has a lot of ties to Belichick, his MO was, you know, take away your strong arm, right, make you play left-handed. So I know, I know, what Belichick would do. He would probably have, you know, Christian Gonzalez man up the other receiver, not JSN, and then have your other corners on JSN with a safety over top bracketing him the entire game, and you basically double team JSN gets a little more complicated if they're able to move them to the slot more, which maybe they will. But that's what Belichick would do. He would

say, and I think I would do that too. J.S.N. is not beating me, right? So, like, my Rundee's really good. And my Rundee, when healthy, has been really good all year. No one's been able to run on the Patriots. They have good corners. But I'm saying J.S.N. is not beating me. He's getting bracketed as much as humanly possible. And if you want to throw it a cup, if you want to throw it a cup, if you want to throw to Shaheed and Barner, fine. But I would trust my other corners on them, man them up, take away JSN. So if that's, if that occurs, then, you know, JSN's going to be used more as a decoy and just not have as many opportunities. So number one, how do the Patriots approach that? Do they put their best corner on him in Gonzalez, who, you know, I believe led the league

in yards per reception or yards per snap this year? Do they trust him? He's shut down some big name receivers before, or do they say we're going to bracket them with a safety, another corner? That's super interesting. And then the Sealks are going to counter, right? They're probably going to move JAS and around. Do they, I'm coming out of the back to them or put them in the slot more? So that type of stuff, you know, with these staffs, they are going to have two weeks to think about it.

No one really knows, but that's usually what goes a long way in determining. I mean, you go back to that Rams Patriots Super Bowl, that game plan that the Patriots came up with defensively with the five-man fronts that just threw the Rams for a loop and they had no idea what to do. Things like that. McDonald is a mad scientist. What is he, what is he going to come up with? What is McDaniels going to come up with? Is all super interesting. And no one really knows the answers, but that's probably, and these high leverage games also, this is when you switch everything up. Like this is the ultimate high leverage game, right? You know that the other team knows your tendencies. They know where you're strong, where you're weak, what you like to do. So this is the time

where you completely change it up. But you don't want to change up too much, right, and go away from, that's what McDonald's had happened in that Thursday night game. Like you tried to change up some things on a short week. So you don't want to go away from who you are, but you do have to throw in some curveballs. And sometimes teams will throw in some major curve balls that end up deciding the game. That's the stuff that I love. But obviously, makes it more difficult. the bet because you're just you're not going to be able to use as much of the data and the tendencies that you're and you know schematic tendencies that you can during a regular season game or even a wild card game but that's what makes the super bowl so fun to me why i like seattle minus four and a half

a lot but the one thing that gives me pause is the coaching for new england is is elite and sean peyton said it when he went for it on that fourth down he said we got the look we want but when we snapped it they ran a completely different play who Who does that sound like, Bill? Who, like you just said, the schematic, who was a major part of the actual implementation of the schemes in the 2000s? Mike freaking Frable, right? So, you know, I think sometimes we look at him and he's just big, massive alpha like a Jim Harbaugh.

I think he's a lot smarter and he gets credit for. And you can chat GPT me on this and I could be wrong, but I don't think any offensive coordinator. And I don't mean head coach. I mean an offensive coordinator that's calling the plays has game plan more play. games, now Super Bowls than Josh McDaniels. And the advantage, now, I think Mike is elite, and he's Shanahan, Andy Reed, but he's that version of defense.

And, like, if they bring, you know, the type game plan that he had against, let's, a couple years ago when they played, like, the 49ers, and he just made Purdy look like, I mean, completely over his head, a young player. He can make young players. Drake May is more talented than Brock, but he, he's, he's. He can just turn young, you know, players into mush and get them seeing ghosts. I mean, there are a prop that any quarterback to throw two interceptions. I got almost two to one.

A pick six is plus 60 is almost seven to one. So it's like Mike McDonald, if you tell me that he just has this incredible game plan because he has the pieces to deal with. Like, Vrable kind of needs the game, I feel like, to be ugly to give his team a chance. Like, I think Patriot fans would be the first to acknowledge. Like, of all their Super Bowl teams in the last like 20 years, this is probably the least talented. Like, it's going to be, in theory, more talented in a couple years. If Darnold's going to play like he just did the other night, like this team is really talented.

I mean, defense is completely loaded. JSN's an elite player. They just drafted a guard who, you know, got a chance to be like a eight-time pro bowler. You know, I mean, Kenneth Walker's been really good. And again, Darnold, like, has played pretty well for two years. Like, there's no, he's been like a top 10 quarterback. No one can even argue that. to me, if you like Seattle, you almost just got a, I would ride Darnold to win the MVP,

some props like of their defense to cause interceptions, maybe a pick six, like that's the way I'm going. But I get back to that Sean Payton quote of like, we saw what we wanted and then it wasn't that. It's like, well, yeah, no shit, Sean. This is the fucking championship game. You know, what would you do? And it's almost like he sounded shocked because I think he doesn't view.

I don't want to say it was a shot at Rable, but I don't think they took him, I don't think he would have said that if it was Bill because he would have assumed that. But I don't think you assume that with Mike. It's like, oh, they got good players, Milton Williams back. They're just tough. You know, like they were a couple years ago.

Remember, like Bill's last year, then they win four games, but they were pretty good statistically on defense, especially against the run. Yeah. So it's like, I think Mike is like the double whammy. He's the leader of toughness, like the Tomlin Harbaugh.

But the scheme stuff, in his back pocket. I mean, what's this? The young coordinator that filled in for Williams that got sick. Mike has a heavy hand on that defensive scheme. Yeah. By the way, you keep saying Mike, you got to clarify. It's throwing you off. Vrable, Brable. Because I think, let's use the two defense courts. The coaches.

McDonald is viewed as like the Wiz kid. I mean, I had a buddy on the Raven staff a couple years ago. They called him like the defensive genius, like the wizard. Were Vrabels viewed more as the tough guy. but I think Vrable is much closer to Mike and Mike's McDonald's personality it's weird like when you see him talk he doesn't come off like some crazy defensive guy

like you watch Fangio you're like that's a fucking crumudgeon defensive guy you watch McDonald's you're like seems like pretty normal you know which he clearly must not be where Vrable Vrable's kind of got the feel of much more of a defensive guy yeah I mean I grew up in Philly

so I was used to like who was the original like Buddy Ryan oh yeah Like the Ditka's, the Buddy Ryan, the fan, they're just angry, you know, Bill, Belichick. It's why Belichick and Polian hate each other. They're the same guy.

Yeah. They're just angry. I think Varybel is super, oh, this is my, by the way, my Rable impression, all game, just sits hand on his knees, looks like he's got to take a dump, rolls his eyes. But he is super underrated in game. stuff. There are like six or seven things that he's done as a head coach dating back to the Titans that most almost all coaches wouldn't do that get his team little edges. For example,

last week there was the Broncos had the ball with 2.30 to go down three before um before stood him through that interception that it basically ended the game. He, the Broncos subbed off. I don't think the announcers caught this, but the Broncos. Wait, Nancy Romo? They didn't catch something? Yeah. They subbed off a receiver, which they shouldn't have done.

And then you, Brable sent, got in his defenses on the sidelines and instructed his, subbed out his defensive line. And if you go back and watch, he has a defense. defensive lineman off from the and they have to wait to sub and it bled like 24 seconds off the clock which were huge at that time obviously it didn't end up mattering but he knows the how many coaches do that you think what's that how many coaches do that that move right there not many but he knows the rule book that was one of bellichick's biggest strengths and he would spend they he would find like little loopholes to use in like the playoffs um

There was that game against the Ravens where Harbaugh got really mad with the motion. But he knows the rulebook. He got that from Belichick, I think, and like knows time management, clock management. So those little edges he's really good at. As far as the game is concerned, some interesting trends, which are interesting, but, you know, doesn't mean anything for one game. But dating back to Super Bowl 30, 30 years ago, there are. have been 16 Super Bowls with a spread of four and a half or more.

Underdog is 12, 2, and 2 against the spread, covered seven in a row. Interestingly, one of my biggest bets of all time is on the Falcons plus four and a half, but it closed three. It doesn't count, but I lost. That's a 283 game. You mentioned that being one of the most famous teams. What's the final score of that game? I lost the under and the Falcons plus four and a half.

One of my big, one of them, still to this day, my biggest bets ever, one of the most painful bet, and it became like the most famous game that I got to hear about. forever but the Patriots scored they won by six um yeah because they scored in overtime they scored they got they won the coin toss um and i knew i think it was 37 31 or 34 28 no 34 28 the falcons didn't score after being up 283 um so underdogs have been really good in the super bowl above a fuel goal um i you know the the thing is that i i've struggled to remember a team like the Patriots where I still don't feel that confident in my rating for them because the, you know, we've had, I mean, number one, they've had the easiest regular season schedule of the past 25 years.

And that's just based on, you know, looking at opposing team record strength of teams. You throw on all the backups they faced. It's even easier than that. So like during the regular season, we didn't get a great, we didn't get many data points against number one. real quarterbacks and number two real defenses like they didn't face the top 10 defense in my eyes the entire regular season now they go into the playoffs they face some good defenses and may has struggled but he hasn't had to do much because the offenses they face have been compromised and they get the a ace championship game against a backup quarterback you know you get the texans with all their injuries

and their offensive line injuries and strad just being a disaster herber was a disaster and their offensive line wasn't at full strength. So still, like, the, the number of like real data points against a real team are lacking. Now, you do have to give them credit for like blowing out the teams during the regular season. But the thing that I worry about most with the Patriots is because I do kind of like the under here. I think this will be a lower scoring game. I do think both teams are going to come out. And these, in Super Bowls historically, have started off really slow. And I used to be a total of 45 and a half, 46 of where it's at now, used to be able to get like 10, under 10. I would always play under 10, under 10 and a half in the first quarter. It hit for years. But now

the books are keen to it. I think the first quarter total is like eight and a half. But if you go back historically, I think the first quarters of average like six or seven points over a long stretch. There's so many that just are three nothing, zero zero, seven zero. So I think, you know, you have Drake May, who's had fumble issues. You've had Sam Darnold who's had turnover issues in the past. Both teams, I think, trust their defenses. So I could see both coming out and just feeling the game out, not wanting to make a mistake, right? And then it could potentially open up more.

You know, and if one of these teams has to play from way behind, that's when I would worry more about turnovers. But I do think this could start slow. And I think this will be like a field position battle. I think both defensive staff will have a really good game plan. and my biggest concern for the Patriots. So what I do trust for both of these teams run defenses are very good. I mentioned before the Patriots at full strength. Their run defense is legit.

They had a little down tick late in the season when Milton Williams was hurt, Tonga, their nose tackle, they had linebacker injuries. But when they've been at full strength, they've been elite against the run and throughout the playoffs. Milton Williams, remember, they got like, damn, they gave him $24 million a year. I mean, he's been really good for him when he's been on the field. Yes. Yeah, he's been a difference maker. And the Seahawks run defense is historically good.

So I don't think either team is going to have much success running the ball. So then it's going to come down to Darnold. So I think there's going to be some known passing situations. Do the Patriots blitzing at like 40, 45 percent really high over past four games? Way higher than they have all regular season. Now you were playing in the playoffs, you know, backup quarterback, the Chargers' ridiculous, horrible offensive line. The Texans, you know, shroud struggles against the Blitz.

They had offensive line injuries. Do they do that here? Donald's been pretty good against the Blitz. I don't know. How do they handle JSN? But this is going to come down to each quarterback, because I don't think either running game is going to consistently move the ball. And what my biggest concern for the Patriots is their offensive line.

and how it will hold up against the Seahawks defense. And then May going up against whatever McDonald has cooked up. But whenever the Patriots have faced a defensive line that can get pressure without Blitzin, they've struggled, especially in the left side. And is that when the turnovers come? That's when the Seahawks can start smelling blood. And that's my biggest concern for the Patriots is how does their offensive line hold up and then may avoid mistakes.

but if the Patriots can get out to a lead, you know, and then use their different, they stunt a lot, which is given the Seattle offensive line some issues this year. But if they can like time some blitzes, you know, force, I would just take J.S.N away, forced Darneling to some throws. I think that's their path in a lower scoring game. One other thing I'll mention is special teams, big advantage for Seattle. New England special teams aren't bad. They're not elite.

you know, you have, Patriots have an elite punt returner in Jones. Their punters been, he had a bad game last week, but Berenger's been decent. School, or they have some good cover guys, but the Seahawks special teams is probably the best in the league. We saw,

mentioned that Rams game. You know, all year, they've had special teams plays that have swung games. So that could be the difference in, if it's a competitive game, just the reliability and playmaking, of Seattle's special teams.

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The Hard Rock Bet has this pick six plus 650. It could be either quarterback. I mean, both these quarterbacks have shown they can't turn it over. Drake May's got a bunch of turnovers this playoffs. Donald led the league during the season. You got two defenses that are just going to be throwing fucking curveballs left and right, especially early in the game. And then if someone's down, you just got to force it. to me that that one's that one's tasty i'm definitely taking that a couple years ago famously

on this podcast you had a nineers chiefs overtime what was it 10 to 1 just for the one but the bet i really wanted to win was double overtime 75 to 1 100 to 1 and it was one second one second away the play clock i would never forget this i was in a rub about the play clock was set one second below the game clock. And I'm convinced that if it was reversed, the Chiefs would have let it run down and gone to the second overtime and ran out play.

Put that in the context. You bet $100 on $100 to 1 that pays 10K. Yeah. And yeah, it was one second away. That was, but yeah, overtime was nice, but the double overtime. would have been awesome. I believe if it goes,

this is never going to happen, though, but in triple overtime, I think if it goes to triple overtime, then they kick off again, like starts over, I don't know. I doubt we'll ever see that. So, yeah, I don't mind that problem. My only concern would be does May's turnovers

fumbles, because that's what's plagued him in the plows, like are his turnovers, the strip variety. But yeah. Because the lines getting fucking worked. Yeah. That's how the Patriots manage that is going to be really interesting. I do think one of the avenues to do so, my favorite props are Hunter Henry related.

I played them like over catches, over receiving yards, over the longest catch, over 17 and a half yards. Up the sea, like the Seahawks by design, they're one of the worst events in the league against tight ends. And part of that's by design.

You know, they kind of funnel. things to the time. I know this could change. McDonald could say, like, look, we're taken away, Henry. Like, we don't think their receivers can beat us. Maybe they play more man than zone. They switched up last week, played a little bit more man than usual.

But they might, so he might maybe focus more. But the Seahawks defense, they allow you to throw short passes, throw over the tight ends, because they want, they're making you drive the field against that elite defense. It's going to stop the run, getting a third and long. get pressure, can cover the receivers. They want to take away the explosive play, force you to go all the way down the field on a 13, 14 play drive and score on that defense.

And so tight ends have had huge days. And Hunter entered the last year against this Seahawks defense, this McDonald's defense. Now it wasn't his, McDonald didn't have all of his pieces yet, but he had, I think, nine catches for 108 yards or something in the regular season. So I think,

that the one of the ways that you you know number one may is going to be under fire under pressure so that safety valve uh i think there's going to be more design throws for henry the sealks also don't blitz a ton so you don't need you know the protect in there the protection in there as much so uh i think henry will have a pretty big day and he'll have a big big long catch up the seam um at one point so i like some some henry props but uh be curious to see what mcdaniel does to get May going, avoid that pressure. What does the screen game look like? But I think the tight ends are going to, because I just,

I don't know if the Patriots receivers can consistently get separation on a down-by-down basis against this Seattle secondary. This isn't Nakua and Adams out there. Well, Booty was one because they're going to have to take some shots. It's kind of how they've operated right offensively. And he's a good deep-all thrower. I don't hold the Denver game against him when it was fucking... He threw one out route that looked like, you know, Trey Lance or something.

And then they showed the behind view and the wind. It looked like 90 miles an hour snow going everywhere. It's like, you can't complete anything. I don't know if you saw that clip where he looks at Josh. He's like, this is impossible. Yeah. He's not complaining. He's just saying, like, what are we supposed to do?

That game was a joke. But, you know, I do think, you know, he's clearly, he force-fed him the ball. It didn't work in that game with Booty against Denver. He had six touchdowns this year. Listen, some of Puka's production against Seattle feels like kind of shorter outs that he's taken after the catch. But, I mean, they were going after him with those two guys, like you said. I mean, they're better than Booty. But it clearly feels like Drake likes them and the Patriots like him.

And plus 325, I looked on Hard Rock bet today. that's pretty good odds for a guy that, you know, they're going to target down the field. Whether it works or not, is yet to be seen. Yeah, I mean, that's a matchup to watch. Seattle's, you know, secondary not letting up explosives against Drake May,

who no question has one of the best deep balls in the NFL. Pinpoint accuracy throws a beautiful deep ball, and he's going to take, I mean, all year, he will take his shots. Now, he got a little gunshot, and I think that the Patriots did that by design last week against, you know, there was the weather, but even early, I think they were like, look, we're playing Jared Stittem. We're not losing this game.

Like you saw some of the third downs where they rolled him out and he just like threw it away, runs on third and long. That's not going to be the case here, unless this is just like a, you know, 10-7 game in the third or fourth quarter. So he's going to take his shots here. and booty is the most likely target to hit those big passes. So, yeah, I can see him having one or two big plays that end up in the end zone. His mate, he's going to have, they're not going to be able to consistently throw the ball. At least I don't think so.

They consistently just move the chains by throwing short-to-intermediate passes against this defense with with their receivers. They're going to have to pick up enough plays of the chunk variety to just avoid having to gruelingly go down the field against the Seattle defense. So yeah, Booty would definitely be the best candidate for that. So I don't mind that look. I also one crick one that I don't really, I've only seen it at one book out there. It'll be more widely available.

I like, this is way in the weeds, but I like Seattle, over four and a half players to have a rush attempt. So you're going to have... Kenneth Walker, Sam Darnold. Their backup will get a carry. Donald will have at least one.

Or he should. Might not. But, you know, he usually has a couple. You can have a need to. I think they're going to get one of their receivers. This is when you get creative. So, like, I imagine Shaheed will probably get an end around or some type of carry. And then you're going to have A.J. Barner will most likely be doing their sneaks. And this is, you don't not use him here in the Super Bowl when it's third and one, fourth and one.

They use him for the tush push here. So, and Barner is a sneaky touchdown bet because of that. Yeah. Because if they're at the one, Patriots run, he's been really. good. I imagine Barner will have a chance and I'll have a chance in the passing game too. The Patriots, one of their weaknesses, by far, is their linebacker's ability to cover in space. So Barner in the red zone. You never know what the Seattle tight ends and Arroyo and who's, who they're going to be throwing to, but Barner, I think, you know, all year he's been one of

Darnold's favorite red zone targets. And then he also could get in via sneak. So I like him as a touchdown look if you're looking for someone that's not the most obvious guy. If I would have told you like three years ago that going into a Super Bowl, this team was the number one seed, they just took out their two rivals. And Sam Darnold is the heavy favorite to be the Super Bowl MVP. How many people would have believed me?

Yeah, I would have laughed in your face. I mean, think about saying two, two, three years ago, Sam Darnold will be the MVP favorite in a Super Bowl against the Patriots. Like, think about where the Patriots were a couple years ago. Like, this is a crazy, crazy Super Bowl. I know it's the Patriots, but, like, they were, and we get the Patriots again. But it's basically been, like, the Chiefs. We have had a lot of the Chiefs and Eagles and 49ers.

Like this is a pretty shocking Super Bowl result with Sam Darnold and how far he's come. Now, a lot of that's on the defense, but he's certainly played well. And last week, I mean, he went throw for throw with Donald because the Rams offense clearly has, is the kryptonine for Seattle's defense. And usually like it doesn't sometimes when you just have elite elite receivers, you know, Hall of Fame receivers and a Hall of Fame quarterback and an elite play caller, there's no defense for that, right? Like if you're just making elite throws and guys, you can't cover Nakuwa and Adams and they're going to make contest the catches, can May get on a hot streak like that?

Maybe, but he doesn't have the offensive line that the Rams do and he doesn't have the receivers. And he's nowhere close to his experience as Stafford. So it's hard to see the Patriots doing what the Rams did last week. So the Patriots have to win this game, I would say 20 to 17. That has to be there. Are you taking the Pats and the points? I don't know. I thought like three and a half was fair.

I mean, that was the look ahead line. It's not the most efficient line. Like, if this got to six, I don't think it will. It got to like five. I was waiting. I definitely would have bet the bats. But, you know, it got to, it was at three and a half. The Patriots won.

They didn't have to do anything. So, like, I didn't take too much from that game last week in the Blizzard. And the Seahawks, it's not like I upgraded them a ton. I mean, that was a coin flip game. Yeah. I mean, they were out gained 480 to 390. They gave up eight. point three yards per play on the average six like the Rams arguably were better on a play

by play basis they muffed a punt they got stopped on fourth down and they had just sold a chance to win it their special teams really let them down and um so yeah it's not like I upgraded the sea off it's a ton from that game so I thought like three and a half would be fair but again I just don't have that much confidence in where I that where I rate the Patriots because like the the amount of real data points I have with this team is so small, and I do have that concern that I know they're not going to run it, or at least I feel strongly that they won't be able to. And then I don't know how their receivers are going to get separation consistently. And then I don't know how May is not going to be pressured consistently on known passing downs

and get McDonald with two weeks to prepare. So that all leads me to believe it's going to be tough sledding for the Patriots offense. Now, can their defense? I think their defense can keep them in this game, right? Two weeks to prepare for this staff. I think they're going to just take away JSA, at least I think that's what they're going to do. Their run-dees good.

I think that's going to make it tough. Their stunts, their blitz packages can maybe give Darnold some issues. So I think their defense's keeping them. So my strongest play is probably the under, but as a result of if I think it's lower scoring, then I would lean towards a dog a bit more. But also worried about special teams because that could swing it in Seattle.

his favorite too. But it's just crazy that the Patriots are here. And it's like, what complete team do they play all year? And there's, it's like, if they were to pull off this upset and win, I think Bill's fans wouldn't even, would be just, they might just quit football. They'd be tough. That that one, I think it would hurt them the most. You know, it would be. It's going to hurt Raidens fans at the Seahawks win. Donald's the one that got away. Do you think that is a little, I was watching some of the mentor press conference today. He's not, I wouldn't say a big press conference guy. Not like he's dumb talking, but there's just, I don't know, it's just.

It's not his thing. Yeah, it's not, I'm not judging him on that moment. But Bowles last year, it's like, God, if they could do that over again, they just would have fired him and gone with Liam. Do you think looking back, they regret, like, they were just in the AFC championship game, but if they had a do-over, would they have just fired John Harbaugh right then and hired Mike McDonald? Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, it's unfortunate. Mentor could be like the light version of him. He's clearly pretty good. Yeah, I think Mentor was a good hire, but McDonald, obviously, would have been the ideal choice. And that's what we've seen recently, like teams that are aggressive, I mean, look at these two teams, right?

Like, they were, it was, we brought in Brable, and we got rid of May. right away. It was a disaster. Seahawks move on from Gino Smith and Pete Carroll and go get McDonald. A lot of people were shocked by. I thought it was the wrong mood. But the whole NFL season was about coaching. The Jags rise with Liam Cohen. And everywhere Liam Cohen's gone, teams gotten better. And then the bucks, their offensive decline after Liam Cohen left. The Bears and Ben Johnson's impact and what he did. And then you have the lions drop off after Ben Johnson left. So like the coaching matters, coordinators matter. And you can drastically change

the direction of your franchise with the right hire or, you know, poison it for years to come with the wrong one, especially if you have an ownership group that isn't going to be aggressive and move on quickly. So yeah, I wish the Ravens had McDonald, but clearly the Seahawks benefited immensely and are going to be a problem for years to come with him at the home. Yeah, they really are. All right, fellas, let's be real. Buying men's jewelry used to be a nightmare. It was low-quality junk that snapped after a week. We've all been there. That's why I rock with GLD. They changed the game. Many of you have participated as well.

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I'll be gambling on golf, and we'll just try to get through. But you turn on TV at night. It's just, I know you love college hoops. It's a lot on it. It's not the same. It's not. No. I mean, I tried to watch a little like SC was playing.

Was to Iowa or something last? It just didn't do much. for me. I was like, I'm just going to watch some fucking TV and go to bed. I will say I, you know, I miss, there's nothing like football. I miss it in the all season, but I don't want football in the off season. So like I don't get into like, I never got into any of the other leagues or like the UFO. Football is like my, it's, it's meant to be from August until the Super Bowl. But yeah, TV and weeknights and weekends, just aren't the same. same without football. So, uh, gambling on the NBA, I was watching the Lakers now like 40.

I'm like that sport, when I first really got into gambling, like consistently, probably mid-2010s, used to be able to find certain teams like the OKC Thunder with Durant and Russell. I used to hammer their team overs. And there were just some you could ride. And now the basketball's all over the place with three-point shots. Like I, I can't even imagine gambling on this. We've got teams the tank. Some teams don't even try. The good ones. take nights off. You talk about a volatile sport. I mean, you got no clue

what you're getting night tonight. I have no idea of people about the NBA. That's not my God bless anyone that wins money doing it. I wouldn't even know where to start. At least in college basketball, you know both teams, in theory, are going to try every night, right?

Yeah. Yeah. There's no, like, load management and tanking. But the sport's changing. I mean, the sport, like college football, is definitely changing. top. So like what's happening in college football is happening in college basketball. There's because of NIL, because of the portal, the top of the sport is separating itself from the rest. Now there might be, there's probably going to be more parity at the top, right?

And you're going to have like in college football, there's, you know, next year, if you ask me right now, like who could win the national title? And there's still so much to be determined in the portal and recruiting and. a lot of other things. But I would probably list eight to ten teams that I wouldn't be shocked. Five years ago, you know, it was like two to three teams that I would say. So there's more parity at the top, more diversity. I mean, look, Indiana just won a championship. But after that, the drop-off is massive because of the money difference

because any player that's worth anything in these lower conferences is moving up, the coaches too are moving up. So what's going to happen, I think, and it sucks because my first love is March Madness when I was a little kid in the NCAA tournament. There's just going to be fewer upsets, fewer Cinderella stories. We saw that last year. I think that's probably going to be a trend. And it's just going to be harder to get Cinderella stories because the gap is growing. I mean, if you just look at the top 10, the AP top 10, after.

After a week 13, which was this Monday, those 10 teams had 13 total losses. To put that into perspective, you know, two years ago, this same time frame, the top 10 had 34. The previous record was 21. So, I mean, they only had 30. So, like, there's just not as many upsets. Well, Arizona hasn't lost, right? Arizona's undefeated. Nebraska just lost.

Nebraska just lost to Michigan, who's, you know, top five team. How many losses they have, like two? They have one loss. Yeah, which is unheard of. Like, if you finish the season with five or six losses, historically, right? Yeah. So, yeah, it's unprecedented how good the top of the sport is. So, yeah, there's just fewer upsets.

I'm having to adjust because it's like a different sport. College football, college basketball, it's ever changing. And it's a whole different world. but one mid-major that could make a run St. Louis. I took a flyer and then to make the final four. They're like a team with shooters all over, very well coached. Say that again. You got to broke out on me, the team you just listen.

St. Louis, the Billicans, they have one loss. They lost one game in Stanford on like a crazy buzzer-beater. But they have one of the best coaches in the country. They have like five guys who shoot 40% from three. They run beautiful offense. Like they're a team that could give anyone problems and make it. They can't win it all, but they could make like a final four. I took a flyer and then to make the final four.

And then the other story, with the college basketball, real quick, he's just a freshman this year. The freshman are outstanding. My favorite to watch when he's healthy, he's dealt with a lot of injury issues, but Darren Peterson out of Kansas.

I took a flyer in Kansas to make the final four. When he's healthy, he reminds me like Kobe, if Kobe went to college. He is one of the smoothest players that I've seen on the offensive end in college, especially for a freshman a long time. But the freshman, Boozer, DeBanza, Peterson, maybe the top three in the draft.

Then you might get, you know, Caleb Wilson out of North Carolina. The top five guys might be freshmen. freshman. Freshmen are dominating. He had this kid, Wagler from Illinois, dropped 46 at Purdue last weekend. Fleming's from Houston at 42 last weekend. I mean, there are so many good freshmen. That's another storyline to watch. But yeah, not the same without football. I appreciate you having me on all year. Can't wait to do it again next year, brother. Well, enjoy being a dad and enjoy life. And we'll just keep on, we'll just keep crying in

day by day because that's, you know, when you become a dad, that dad life is just one foot in front. I feel like Belichick, just on to the next day, on to the next day. We're on to Cincinnati. Yeah. Okay, bro. I'll talk to you soon. Enjoy the Super Bowl. Bye, brother, you too.

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