The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - USC - LSU reaction, Week 1 College Football recap

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

John reacts to USC's big win over LSU and dives into how impressed he was with Lincoln Riley and the Trojans (8:06). Later, John dives into some of the top college football games from the weekend and ...what his biggest standouts were. (20:46) Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:53 Incredible win for the Trojans, Miller Moss, Danton Lynn, the new defensive coordinator. His dad, Anthony Lynn's got to be really proud. That was a different USC team than we saw last year. So we'll dive into the game on just USC, because that was massive. Fun to have him back a little bit.
Starting point is 00:05:16 And LSU, man, Brian Kelly. He's lost to Florida State back-to-back years in opening games. Last year he got demolished, remember, when Keon Coleman had like 10 touchdowns against him. And then he lost this game. This was much closer, clearly, than last one. But not the end of the world because of the 12-team playoff. but it's, I don't know if I see him as a playoff team.
Starting point is 00:05:40 So we'll dive into thoughts on the game, and then I watched a ton of football. Georgia, Georgia Clemson, a lot of takes on Dabo Sweeney flying around. I think people are overcomplicating a little bit. Comes down to one position, which he's not getting right right now. Miami destroyed Florida, that job's going to come open here soon. A&M, Notre Dame, some of the young quarterbacks I saw, some of the prospects for the draft. I mean, the popularity of college football right now is just, it's at an all-time high. I mean, these games, the ratings on these games, you're talking 9 million people watching 9 a.m. kickoff, West Coast time.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Now, maybe a lot of those people are on the East Coast, but holy, moly, these are getting people fired up. And I kind of want to talk about that, how the popularity of football, the NFL college, the draft, the combine. It's just all kind of interconnected. And it's just thriving. I mean, it has, I was glued. I watched football Thursday night, Friday night, got up Saturday morning, did a little gym break, still watched football at the gym on the treadmill,
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Starting point is 00:09:10 And they had Caleb Williams. And sometimes he could do it. And sometimes he couldn't. But defensively, they couldn't tackle anybody. They were bad. I mean, they were, and really, USC's defense now has been bad for a while. But the transformation that we'll dive into Miller Moss, who definitely surprised me, like most of the. people he had never really played. You didn't know what to make of it.
Starting point is 00:09:35 Anytime you have a young quarterback, I think the jury is out until they prove it. But the story of the night was the defense. And hiring Anthony Lynn's son, I got news for you, DeAnton Lynn, if they look like that all season long, he's going to be a college head coach next year. He's coached in the NFL. He works for the Ravens. He excelled for Chip Kelly last year at UCLA. His star pass rusher went in the top 20 to Indy, Latu, and tonight, whatever the hell he was doing and preaching for the last seven, eight months, worked. They showed the visuals of these guys' bodies.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Part of it with USC, and listen, some of us, us west coasters go, I don't think you realize how physical and big Pete Carroll's team was. I understand it's a long time ago, but they were massive. They were, they dominated on defense. it's why they ran the country. It wasn't offense clearly was sexy. They had Reggie Bush and Matt Leiner and Hinesmans. But defensively, they had first round picks in every unit.
Starting point is 00:10:42 They had a ton of them at linebacker and a defensive line. They hit you right in the teeth. And then Lincoln Riley comes, you're like, these guys look like me. How are you going to beat anyone with a bunch of little tiny dudes? And then they show tonight the transformation. I guess they stole some guy from Vanderbilt. And that worked.
Starting point is 00:11:01 The strength program, whatever they're feeding these kids, the jamba juices, the protein shakes, the body types, guys were going from 235 to 260. And just on television, it jumped off the screen. The other thing was the open field tackling. USC has tackled like a Mountain West team for years. And it's like we hold them to such high esteem because of the program, because of the history, because they give Lincoln Riley $120 million. and then they're playing Arizona and they can't tackle anybody.
Starting point is 00:11:33 You're like, what's happening? And you watch tonight that first drive of the game, you're like, God, I don't know. And then they settled in. And they consistently tackled all night long. So Lincoln Riley makes a change of defensive coordinator, hires a crosstown rival DC, and it immediately paid dividends. I mean, they're playing a team that has, I'm texting around trying to get the draft grades on these guys,
Starting point is 00:11:58 The left tackle Will Campbell for LSU, top 15 pick. The right tackle, a little bit of a raw product, more than likely a first rounder. Obviously, their quarterback, I mean, to me, he looks like an NFL guy. Lacey had to be the best third wide receiver in the country last year playing with Malik neighbors and Brian Thomas Jr. I mean, that's a, Daniels played on an All-Star team last year, and they handled it, man. did. The other thing is, because LSU travels so well, despite it being in Vegas, which is a
Starting point is 00:12:33 four or five hour drive from Southern California, that felt like an LSU home game. And for USC, the pressure on that program, I thought this before the game kicked off, the pressure on these two coaches in this game were immense. It's year three, and this isn't like 15, 20, 30 years ago, where it takes three or four years to truly even evaluate a guy. You can flip it like that. The transfer portal, the world is completely different. Your ability to flip a program has never been easier because of the modern-day rules. Brian Kelly got $95 million. Lincoln Riley got $120 million.
Starting point is 00:13:11 The standard for these guys was like, oh, be competitive, win eight, nine games. It was like to win national championships. In year one and two, obviously last year for both guys, the defenses were horrendous. They had the number one and number two overall quarterbacks in the draft, and neither one of them sniffed the Final Four. USC had no shot, and Brian Kelly couldn't stop a nosebleed. So you're like, there's tangible pressure in this game. Because of the 12-team playoff, it doesn't make or break your season.
Starting point is 00:13:44 But that's a, for as great of a win that is for Lincoln Riley, and that's a fantastic win. I mean, that's as good as it's his best win at, you know, it's a short tenure, but it's one of the biggest wins of this career. I mean, there's no way around that, right? Neutral site against LSU when he's an underdog. That was massive. It's equally a pretty big loss for LSU.
Starting point is 00:14:09 You know, you have all this talent. Clearly defensively, they weren't as bad as they were last year, but something's missing. They don't look like the dominant SEC program that, you know, some of the teams that Les Miles had and obviously Nick Sabin had. days are long gone. And you could argue maybe those days are long gone just in general in college football. But how does this team, I mean, 9 and 3 feels like best case scenario? And here's the problem. If USC's 9 and 3, which if you look at their schedule, like they're going to drop a random game.
Starting point is 00:14:43 To me, the Notre Dame games, kind of advantaged Notre Dame. Michigan, kind of a coin flip, because Michigan's clearly not as good. But let's just say they go 9 and 3. And LSU goes 9 and 3. and basically one of the last playoff spots is between those two teams. Well, USC gets the spot. They beat them, straight up. That's how it happens, right? I mean, we don't even need to argue that.
Starting point is 00:15:06 And I thought if USC lost this game, looking at their schedule, you know, probably 8 and 4, I look at them now like a 9 and 3 team. And Miller Moss, that was really impressive. I mean, my expectations for them were zero, didn't have any, and they probably weren't positive. Halfway through the game, you're like, God, I kind of like this guy.
Starting point is 00:15:27 By the end of the game, you're like, God, that guy's a gamer. Both the quarterbacks. They played winning football. I know Nussmeyer threw the pick at the end of the game, and it's crazy as my first year at Fresno State in 2008, Doug Nussmeier, his dad was the offensive coordinator. I love Nuss. I saw him at the Combine this year.
Starting point is 00:15:47 He's currently the Eagles quarterback coach. He's been kind of Kellynne Moore. those guys have been together since Dallas. He was a quarterback coach for Dak, and then he went to the Chargers with Kellyn, and then he went with the Eagles. He's a stud. So I was rooting for him.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But something about Brian Kelly, not the most, I don't know, easily rootable individual. Something's just a little off. He's always kind of screaming at people. But the expectations for him, like even if Lincoln had gone seven and five this year, nothing's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:16:19 To me, the Brian Kelly thing, Last year was such a disappointment because their offense, it's impossible to get better on offense. Their offense legitimately was like the Joe Burrow 2019 year. And I think statistically it's like the greatest offense in the history of the sport. But from a talent standpoint, very similar. Starwide receivers. Top five pick. Another guy top 25 pick.
Starting point is 00:16:43 Lacey's probably a top 50 pick. Two tackles, stars, quarterback, NFL guy, running backs. Like, well, I don't know. You know, one thing that jumped out to me, and I'm not pretending to be Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVey here, deep passes and long breaking routes down the field, even when you have great athletes, are difficult to complete. One thing USC did a good job of tonight is some quick hitters across the middle. They got rid of the ball fast out of Miller Moss's hands. Yet it felt like in Doug Nussmeyer, or not Doug, but Garrett Nussmeyer, his statistics,
Starting point is 00:17:20 really good, but they were asking him to kind of play like Patrick Mahomes. Why don't you run some quick hitting routes and let your great athletes, I don't know, a seven yard out. Well, if the guy breaks a tackle, it turns into 40 yards. Run a slant route. If the safety takes a bad angle, could be 26 yards. And they're just, their offense, a little weird. And they got going for a little bit running the ball, but when you have two NFL tackles,
Starting point is 00:17:46 you think you could be pretty good, you know, on the ground. dominate on the ground. And maybe that's a testament to USC, bulking up the defensive line, adding some guys in the transfer portal. USC has a guy. This has to be the only time this has happened during this transfer portal era.
Starting point is 00:18:03 And I can't imagine it happening anytime soon. Number 81 for the wide receiver, started his career at USC, transferred to UCLA. And now he transferred back to USC. We've seen a lot of guys do the three-team transfer. Start somewhere, go another place, go another place. But this guy came home.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Maybe home is where the heart is. Herb Street mentioned it. It is cool in this kind of day and age when all these guys are bouncing around, left and right, and everyone's taking the most money. I don't blame them. But just two kids that got passed over, had to buy their time, got to eventually start, play their first game. Notre Dame A&M did 8 million people.
Starting point is 00:18:46 UGA Clemson did 7.9 and Miami, Florida did 6.6. million on Saturday. I think it's fair to say we're going to have well over 10 million people watching that game. These two guys waited, years as the backup, get to play in front of, I mean, it's going to be one of the highest rated games of the year, given it's Sunday
Starting point is 00:19:04 night, nothing else on TV, and both of them excelled. What a cool moment for some of the old school football guys. Listen, I'm not anti-transfer portal, but I also don't just think everyone jumping around, like, there's a reason you're not starting.
Starting point is 00:19:19 It's kind of cool to be the starting quarterback. You got to go to USC and LSU. It's kind of a big deal. Maybe one day it'll be your turn. And when it is, it's pretty fucking badass. So props to those two guys. But like I said, man, what a win for Lincoln. And Brian Kelly, man, I think right now you'd have to bet against them making the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:19:42 Right. Ole Miss. I like Ole Miss more. They definitely can be more prolific scoring-wise. Alabama, like, Kaelan Dupor was just in the national championship. You could argue Kailen Dubeau currently is a better coach than Brian Kelly. Today, I know their resumes, Brian's accomplished a lot, but like today, who would you rather have?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Kailen Dupor or Brian Kelly? I'd take Kailen Dupor. So LSU still has a lot of question marks, even if their defense, I guess, looks a little bit better from the previous year. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.
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Starting point is 00:24:38 The game kicks off. It was kind of close for a half. You're like, and I thought, you know, Clemson, they've recruited really well, backs against the wall, not a soul in America that follows football, thinks they have a chance. I'm like, eventually, aren't you going to play one of these games close? They kind of did, and then they didn't, and they got boat raced. And after every person that covers college football, former players, media people, are crushing dabble for the transfer portal thing.
Starting point is 00:25:05 And I think they said during the game that Georgia might be 11. It's one of their bigger transfer portal classes of the Kirby tenure. The problem is not the transfer portal. Obviously, he should utilize that, and it would help. But the thing that has derailed Clemson as a program is quarterback play. He won a national championship with Deshawn Watson. He won a national championship with Trevor Lawrence. Before Deshawn Watson, you know, ran off every massage therapist in the state of Texas,
Starting point is 00:25:40 and his body started failing him. And Trevor Lawrence will see how good he was, or turns out to be, still a lot of question marks there, was the number one pick in the draft. And Deshawn Watson was a guy after like three years, every team in the league except like three or four would have wanted. So those guys are legit NFL dudes leaving Davosweeney. From there, he went to DJ Ungule, who everything I've heard, nice guy, probably an XFL player.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And then he thought he was upgrading with Clubnik, who might just not be very good. And for the transfer portal, adding a guard here, a safety here, not disputing that that would not help. It helps Bama, it helps Ohio State, it helps USC, it helps. You should utilize that. But when your quarterback play sucks or is not good enough against other NFL quarterbacks
Starting point is 00:26:35 on other college teams like Georgia has, and that ultimately wasn't the difference in the game because Clemson was just overmatch, but they had no shot as the game went on with that quarterback. None. Siltch. So, like, Scott Frost I saw today, just got hired. Who hired him? Oh, the Rams. Scott Frost, who had no equity with Nebraska beside he'd been a successful coach right at UCF
Starting point is 00:27:06 and had played it Nebraska. But he didn't have equity of like taking them to 10 and 11 win seasons. Kind of staked it all on Adrian Martinez. And then it failed because Adrian Martinez turns out wasn't any good. So what happened? Scott Frost got fired. So usually coaches in this position get fired when they keep missing on the quarterback. Now, Davo has so much equity going to three national championships, winning a couple, dominating for a while.
Starting point is 00:27:32 But it's not going that well right now. And to me, everyone can talk about the transfer portal, but I promise you, when your quarterback is not good, you could have 10 NFL guys next to them. You're still going to be, you're going to have problems in the tight games. So Georgia looks like a dominant program. Yeah, they are. But they also have an NFL quarterback who looks pretty damn good. Clemson does not.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Same thing with Florida. Like, why is Billy Napier going to get run out of town? Well, his team's not very good. But the quarterback play is just like, Cam Ward was many thought the number one guy in the transfer portal. Got a bunch of money to go to Miami. Played at Washington State, super freak, right? Can run, huge arm.
Starting point is 00:28:17 to make a mistake here or there, but his good is really good. What happens? Miami goes. They've dominated the transfer portal. They recruit well because Mario's a great recruiter. And they kill Florida. They dominate him. And now I think big picture of the question mark is, Florida's going to open up.
Starting point is 00:28:36 And an article came out about Lane Kiffin, hasn't had a drink in three and a half years, as a new man. I don't think that was a random article. I think he's trying to change the perception nationally. Now, part of it, his daughter goes to Ole Miss. He wants them to stay. It sounds great. But I've been doing this long enough. And these articles matter. Because the perception on Lane, like, he wanted the Oregon job a couple years ago. They wouldn't give him the time of day.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Wouldn't entertain them because there's a lot of some question marks. But those have kind of subsided. He said, listen, no drinking anymore, no screwing around. Florida has an opportunity to be one of the best jobs in the country. And clearly Lane's killing it at Old Miss. They're going to be, I mean, they are good. And that's just something I'm keeping an eye on big picture. Lane Kiffin, Florida, maybe he just stays at Ole Miss for the rest of his career. I would say eventually Florida is going to have to get really, really serious. And when you start looking around, like, what are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:29:31 Go after Urban Meyer. I would say Urban is dramatically more toxic after some of the situation, even at Jacksonville. He hasn't coached in a while. Lane currently is kicking ass to take names. I'm not saying Florida would turn down Urban, but doesn't Lane? make way more sense now. I'm not even know if Urban would want the job.
Starting point is 00:29:51 One thing that is very, very evident is the young quarterback play all over the country. I looked at Arch Manning's class, the top five quarterbacks. Number one was Arch Manning, who doesn't get to play because Texas has Quinn yours.
Starting point is 00:30:05 Number two was Nico, I can't say his last name, but Tennessee starting quarterback from Los Angeles. I got news for you. If you haven't seen him yet, just YouTube, some of this throws from last
Starting point is 00:30:15 week. You're going to see him throughout this season. It's his first year starting. I guess he started the bowl game. He's a big time player. Some of these guys, for a lot of my life, most quarterbacks in college, I felt like had average arms. They were just like, this is not NFL. When you just flip around the channels now, you go to like Tennessee. You're like, this 19-year-old guy named Nico is throwing 99-mile-on-hour bullets.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I go to Nebraska, Riola, he's throwing just. just darts. I watched Oklahoma. It was either Thursday or Friday night, Jackson Arnold, who, listen, Dylan Gabriel is an excellent player, Oregon's starting quarterback. Oklahoma told him he was not going to start anymore. They were going with Jackson Arnold, who was fifth in the class behind Arch Manning, Nico, who am I missing, Dante Moore, who was now the backup to Dylan Gabriel at Oregon, who was at UCLA last year, and number four is the guy Malachi Nelson, started at U.S. USC, Lincoln ran him out of town, went to Boise, and he couldn't even win the job.
Starting point is 00:31:19 So you can't hit on them all. But that class looks like he's got a chance. Three of the four guys, pretty talented. And who knows, we'll have to wait and see with Arch. But Jackson Arnold and Riola, you talk about the ability to move, throws down the field, accuracy. They got some swag. They got some, like, Panache. They just got some shit to them.
Starting point is 00:31:39 They're just a very, same with Nico. Just a very, very enjoy. Easy watch. very easy watch. Historically, a lot of these guys, sometimes they were at some of these schools that were throwing up a bunch of points like a Mike Leach school, a Hawaii.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Now these guys, and I think a lot has to do with seven-on-seven camps, these guys are throwing. A lot of these guys only play football. You know, people my age, in their late 30s, 40s, 50s, if you were a great athlete, you played it all. You're on the football.
Starting point is 00:32:09 If you're the quarterback, then you're the point guard or the shooting guard, and then you were the shortstop. Most of these guys now quit the other sports and just play football. I saw Nico actually play a little volleyball on the side. Check out his volleyball highlights. They look incredible.
Starting point is 00:32:22 But these guys master their craft. It's like Tiger Woods. Like what was Tiger Woods doing when he was 14? He was just playing golf. He was isolating at the sport, which obviously is very unhealthy for 99% of people because you're never going to play past high school. But when you have like pro potential like these kids, it can be a huge advantage, especially, you know, you love it and you're an addict.
Starting point is 00:32:44 not going to burn out. You hit the ground running and you look like a star. So the young quarterback talent in this country right now, these guys aren't even draft eligible, right? Not even draft eligible. And they just look like studs. Some of the guys that are draft eligible, Arizona's wide receiver, McMillan, he's just a massive guy with incredible ball skills who can make people miss and dominated on Saturday night. He had 304 yards and four touchdowns. and honestly it felt like more. And everyone I've talked to in the NFL, there's only one question mark on them
Starting point is 00:33:22 is like true top end speed, right, to be like a top two or three overall pick. You know, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, these guys had elite speed. Malik neighbors last year, you've seen like, trying to think guys in Julio Jones, but I think he's got a very, very good chance
Starting point is 00:33:39 to be a top 10 wide receiver or a top 10 player in this draft at wide receiver. the number one wide receiver off the board. Travis Hunter and Colorado, Chador. I think there's no disputing, and Colorado plays Nebraska this week. Talk about a great game. Rola versus Chador,
Starting point is 00:33:57 Dion, at, you know, in Omaha, wherever the hell of University of Nebraska is. I don't think that's in Omaha. But Lincoln, Nebraska, that's going to be must watch. Shadour, there's no arguing that he has number one overall pick talent. right the arm strength the accuracy the mobility obviously the genes he comes from he's he's a very very intriguing
Starting point is 00:34:24 player and i would say he's a lock top 20 pick as of right now but these next you know 10 games playing real teams he played north dakota state which is an excellent program you don't determine your draft stock after out of that if i'm a gm watching you play in February, I never even watched that game. Same thing with Travis Hunter. Now, Travis Hunter was already viewed as a top five pick, like a borderline lock. I think the hard part with Travis Hunter is all the scouts want him to play corner. Rightfully so.
Starting point is 00:35:01 It's way harder to find corners than wide receivers. Looked like the last five drafts. There's been an unlimited amount of wide receivers every year in like the first round, let alone all the good players that go in the second and third round. There haven't been many high, high-end plug-in play sauce gardener Derek Stingley types. So they want him to play corner. The problem is, if you're Travis Hunter, think about this.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Brandon Ayuk, who got 75 balls, just signed, got $75 million guaranteed. The money these wide receivers are making, it's like $30 million plus a year. The top corners, now maybe that changes with sauce and stingly, and I would guarantee this. Their agents are going to try to change that, as they should. But right now, there's a big gap financially.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Now, the rookie contracts, all the same. Everyone makes the same money based on your slots. Like, if you're drafted number three overall, whether you play corner, left tackle, quarterback, you're getting the same contract no matter what. But that second contract is something to think about. My question is, can he really play both ways all season long and do it at a high level.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Last year he got hurt, kind of ran out of gas. Clearly, I think they're going to try it. What does that look like when they play Arizona? And he's going up against a top 10 wide receiver. And he's also playing all the snaps on offense. He's like the Shohei Otani for college football. It's the most remarkable thing I've ever seen. We've seen a lot of guys, quote-unquote, slashes, right?
Starting point is 00:36:38 A defensive player that would get some offensive snaps. it was usually that way. You don't see many offensive players also getting defensive snaps. But Dion, Charles Woodson, guys who were defense, got to play a little offense. This guy goes both ways. It's like high school. It's like if you just went to like Alabama or LSU or Ohio State's best high school recruit this year at a skill position like wide receiver or corner, I guarantee you they're going both ways.
Starting point is 00:37:04 I play running back and I play linebacker. Or I play wide receiver and I play safety. And I never come off the field besides special teams. That's what this guy's fucking doing. It's insane to watch. And some of his highlight plays, it was sweet. So Colorado, they're an entertaining watch. You can't argue that.
Starting point is 00:37:24 It's just they're playing on TV against a real team. I want to watch. Will Johnson, speaking of top corners, if Travis decided to play corner, and who knows if he ever even, quote-unquote, declares, maybe he just goes into the draft as an athlete, Will Johnson, I think, is viewed as the top corner right there with Travis Hunter, had an unreal pick six against Fresno State.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Give the dogs some credit. They went in to Ann Arbor, defending champs. Granted, they had an entirely new team and a new coach. Dogs have my guy, Tim Skipper. They were right in the game. But Michigan had a little bit more. Michigan's going to have some issues on offense. Quarterback play, pretty big question mark.
Starting point is 00:38:05 But their defense is really good. And Will Johnson, I don't know how, quote, quote, long he is, but he's a top 15 corner, I would imagine. Anything else? It really is crazy the popularity right now of the sport of football, and whether that's gambling, whether that's, you know, kind of the fantasy football generation of people wanting to watch star wide receiver, star quarterbacks, but seeing some of these numbers, 8.2 million people watching Notre Dame A&M.
Starting point is 00:38:40 8 million people watching Georgia Clemson. If you told me 12 million people watch tonight, I'd believe you. Like college football, and Collins has been talking about this for a long time, it used to be so regional, right? It was just the South was having so much success. Well, now the South is cool. Nico, Tennessee quarterback from Los Angeles. Georgia's leading Russia against Clemson from Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:39:05 All these guys, it was a big deal I remember growing up. if one of our star high school recruits in Northern California left the Pact 12. Brady did it to Michigan. DJ Williams did it to Miami. But for the most part, if you weren't going to USC, UCLA, Cal or Stanford, you know, Oregon or Washington, maybe Colorado.
Starting point is 00:39:29 But you didn't go, you weren't going to Alabama or Georgia. Now look at Georgia, they're starting a running back. It's from Los Angeles. Brock Bowers is from Napa. I've been saying this for a while. Sabin changed the game financially for all these coaches because college football has become more popular and he was the leading bus driver for the success.
Starting point is 00:39:53 But he also made the SEC really cool. He made it cool outside of the South. I think it's cool. Spent 37 years of my 39 years on the West Coast. And I'm infatuate. with the SEC. Has the best players, right? The SEC just resonates.
Starting point is 00:40:14 And one of the things in the tweet I saw about the ratings, Stuart Mandel, those were ABC games. Well, guess what ABC did? They bought the SEC. Now, their song leading into the SEC game may be pretty cheesy and maybe pretty bad, but it's going to work because this isn't just people in Mississippi
Starting point is 00:40:36 and Alabama and Arkansas watching these games. I watched every second. I'm sure many people listening watch bits and pieces of a lot of them and we're living all over the country. And when I look at the SEC and the Big Ten and this is going to be an argument, especially now because of the power of the two conferences,
Starting point is 00:40:52 the SEC is much better. Now, I know USC beat him the night and that was a big deal, but I watched the Big Ten, their quarterback play is not great right now. Michigan's quarterback plays down and then the random teams. And that's where the SEC,
Starting point is 00:41:08 like their random play. teams have NFL quarterbacks because they've been stealing so many of these quarterbacks from the West Coast. Where did Lane Kiffin get his quarterback? Jackson Dart, USC. So it's like, now, Texas A&M's quarterback, he was one of the worst players I saw all weekend long for a good player. And I text a buddy in the NFL, I'm like, what's the deal with these two quarterbacks? He said the two most overrated guys coming into the season for
Starting point is 00:41:36 quote-unquote draft prospects. Now, Leonard the Duke transfer for Notre Dame he's like a poor poor man's version of Cam Newton he's so big and he can run guys over but throwing's very hit or miss I don't view that guy like an NFL thrower as of today
Starting point is 00:41:52 in A&M's quarterback I mean look like he should be at UC Davis now the defense in those games and that's the other thing the defense now the Big Ten has good defense too but the physicality of the SEC right now
Starting point is 00:42:09 and really all the Power 5 high-end schools is really high. And the hitting in that game kind of felt like NFL light. Guys were getting crushed. Notre Dame schedule a joke. They'll probably cruise the playoffs. But that was an impressive win. On the road. Now, the other quarterback couldn't complete a pass to save his life,
Starting point is 00:42:28 but still, wins a win on the road against an SEC team. Oregon was pretty bad. I didn't watch much of that game just because I don't even think it matters. But overall, man, this is, we got a lot of NFL talent. And that's the other thing. You know, rising tide lifts all boats. The popularity, it all bleeds into each other, right? The NFL's popularity, the drafts popularity, college football's popularity,
Starting point is 00:42:54 they're all interconnected. Because when you're watching tonight, Garrett Nussmeyer, like he's going to get drafted. When you're watching Lacey and the two tackles and some of the dudes on USC and guys over the weekend, in any of the big games, you're like, that guy's an NFL player, that guy's an NFL player, what rounds this guy going to go? And the power of that is just taking this all to a new level. And we can add the gambling, the, I don't know, fantasy in college doesn't really exist, but it's all part of each other.
Starting point is 00:43:24 It's all in the same, you know, network. It's all under the same umbrella. And it's why football is lapping everybody right now. You know, you look at basketball, it's all disconnected. The best players in the NBA are Euros, right? AAU is a joke. No one cares about the G League. College basketball only matters for the bracket.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Baseball, it's all out of whack. But it all has to be interconnected. I love golf. Talk about a sport that's all over the map. When everyone is connected, even if college has their issues, the NFL kind of has some of their issues, I mean, I can't get over the more and more I think that the NFL is playing a game. in Brazil. I'm not anti-expansion, but just talking to some people, it's absolutely ludicrous.
Starting point is 00:44:14 I mean, it's insane that they're doing it. It really is. If you saw A.J. Brown's quote, he's like, yeah, they kind of told us, we can't take our phone outside. Like, I'm just going to stay in the hotel. Fucking, the Brazil guy just banned Twitter. It's like, what are we doing? Just play the game in Lambo or Philly. And if you want to go international, go to London. You're going to fucking Brazil. What are we trying to prove here? But regardless, I mean, we can nitpick anything. The NCAA, I haven't watched Connor Stallion's documentary yet, but I did see some clips from the NCAA chick that was grilling them.
Starting point is 00:44:47 It's like I couldn't even imagine, even of him Connor Stallion's and guilty, taking her seriously. But regardless, like the two entities got some issues. But where they don't have issues is when the game's on for four quarters, people all around this country are glued. And I love football as much as most. But I thought this weekend, the talent out there, the entertainment value, the matchups, been saying forever we need to get rid of.
Starting point is 00:45:13 We need LSU USC. You shouldn't be able to play. Maybe, you know, you can play a Fresno State, a Boise, but playing some of these like FBS schools. Listen, North Dakota State is really, should be in the Mountain West. But, and they're good, and they would beat a lot of, you know, Division I schools. But just in general, that practice needs to end. We just need teams playing other real teams because that's what the consumer wants.
Starting point is 00:45:42 And when you give us awesome matchups, millions of people are coming. So we know that these television networks have more and more control because they're literally paying for everything, that they got to keep dropping the hammer of like, for the three weeks buffer before we start conference play, we got to play real games. I don't even care if they're close.
Starting point is 00:46:04 Like Oregon, Idaho actually was a, close game, that game should not be allowed to happen. It should not be allowed to happen. Especially now, Idaho bumped down divisions. When I was at Fresno State, they were in the whack. They're not even that anymore. They were FBS or FCS. I get those mixed up. They were in the playoffs. I think they lost in the first round. They're playing like SAC State, you know, in South Dakota State and Montana State. I have a lot of respect for those programs, but they shouldn't be allowed to play these teams. And this is why I think we're never inevitably headed toward the big kind of NFL-style college football.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Like in the NFL, you only play other NFL teams, right? Power 5 teams should only play other Power 5 teams. Or you get one group of five a year, you know, or whatever. But you should not be able to play some of the teams that some of these schools are playing. And I understand some of these schedules are really hard. You know, you look at whose schedule was I looking? I was like, Jesus. might have been Georgia's or Ole Miss.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Some of these SEC schedules and some of these Big Ten schedules are difficult, right? If you have to play Ohio State, if you have to pay Penn State, if you have to play Oregon, it's hard. That's not like playing, you know, random teams. But still, we've got to figure that out. But overall, fantastic week and just, I'm sweating. I'm so excited. So glad college football's back. NFL is right around the corner.
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