The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Week 14 NFL Reaction: Patrick Mahomes, Chiefs clinch + Josh Allen, Buffalo Bills struggle

Episode Date: December 9, 2024

John is back reacting to a loaded Week 14 NFL Sunday, capped by Patrick Mahomes’ Kansas City Chiefs narrowly avoiding defeat to Justin Herbert, Jim Harbaugh and the Los Angeles Chargers on an epic Sunday Night Football matchup. Middlekauff proceeds to recap an awesome weekend of football, breaking down Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce stepping up late in the game to cap a 19-17 Kansas City Chiefs victory as the AFC West powerhouse improves to 12-1 on the season. John tips his cap to Andy Reid and co. in Kansas City for silencing the doubters this season, who have been critical of the Chiefs despite doing nothing but winning Super Bowls, and explains why the squad is “f*cking insane” as they look well on their way to another Lombardi Trophy. Next, Middlekauff gives us some weekend NFL thoughts and talks about Saquon Barkley and the red-hot Philadelphia Eagles winning a close game against former Heisman trophy winner Bryce Young & the Carolina Panthers, Justin Jefferson, Sam Darnold and the Minnesota Vikings defeating the struggling Kirk Cousins and the Atlanta Falcons, thoughts on Bryce Young’s improving play at quarterback and the state of the New York Giants and a “fan” flying an airplane over the stadium begging for “Mr. Mara to save the Giants.” Then, John gives some quick thoughts on College Football and the expanded 12-team playoff ahead of some epic matchups across the sport. Middlekauff sounds off on the Alabama Crimson Tide being left out of the field, and explains why the SEC is still much more dominant than other conferences in CFB. 6:35 - SNF Reaction 28:19 - Week 14 thoughts 40:07 - Bryce Young is a decent QB in the NFL 53:03 - College Football thoughts Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Teams pumped their chest. It's like, well, you haven't really done anything. I remember in the peak of the Warriors dynasty, it was the Houston Rockets. And Darrell Morey used to get on as high and mighty about James Hardin being better than Michael Jordan and how their statistics and the percentages, chances of them winning the title.

It's like, you're not going to win at one. And two, like, let's pump the brakes before you action. do anything. But anytime you see a squad full of this many good players, one of the greatest coaches of all time, continue to win games, and the only thing I ever hear and the only thing I ever read, and when I say read, I mean on Instagram or Twitter, is just negativity surrounding the Chiefs. And then you look up, they're 12 and 1, like the Bills did last week, they've clinched the

division on December 8th. They have not lost a home game at Arrowhead. The bills lose today. So now the bills and the Steelers both have three losses and they still play the Steelers. If they beat, they basically will ensure that they're going to be the home field, the number one overall seed for the playoffs. You go, listen, is this team as good as some of their previous teams? Of course not. But is what they're doing right now? Fucking is. insane? It's crazy. I mean, it feels like every single game comes down to literally the last possession. But that happens to a lot of NFL teams. That happens in a lot of NFL games. The difference with the Chiefs than the majority of other teams is they literally win every game. And I get it

because when you get someone ultra successful, whether it's an athlete, whether it's a team, whether it's an individual in business, the haters are going to come. Why? Because it's so much easier to hate than go, this is remarkable what is happening. This is kind of unprecedented. Since Peyton Manning's arms stopped working and he had to retire slash no one wanted him anymore,

the Chiefs haven't just dominated this division. They've dominated the AFC. And now you're looking at a team. Again, I'm not acting like this is the 07 Patriots in the sense of it's like, how are they going to lose? Because every week you're watching, watching it, in the back of your mind, you think they might lose, right? Their margin for error is

very slim. Yet they always win, and they're going to have home field advantage. So here's what I know that, yes, this team's going to struggle to score. And if they get back to the Super Bowl, they're probably going to have to win multiple playoff games by scoring in the high teens, low 20s. They're not going to win a game 35 to 30. They're not built to play like that. They literally do not play like that. But at home, in January, when they're the one seed, meaning they only got to win two games, good luck trying to beat them. And I've been saying, it does feel like this is the year.

And just a couple weeks ago, when Buffalo beat them and you start looking at the big picture, you go, well, maybe they would have to, you know, maybe they wouldn't end up getting the number one overall seed. But then you have the swing of the last six hours where the bills, you know, I don't want to say lose a heartbreaker because they're not. They were kind of always down and Josh tried to drag them back. You know, laid an egg early in the game that set them back and caused them to lose the game. And then Josh accounts for five touchdowns and you lose and you're kind of scratching your head.

And then the Chiefs are winning 13 to nothing. Then all of a sudden they don't have the lead. They're down 14 to 13. You're thinking like, God, this is the reason Brian Day always loses. Look at this hardball team. I don't know who he's thrown to. McConkey's nowhere to be found. It's starting running backs at home, watching the game on television.

he's got mac and bosa giving it all he's got he's got some young linebackers he's just got a tough squad you're like this is fucking jim harball tough guy just winning with grit and toughness but it's like they're kind of the poor man's version of the chiefs herbert's really good not quite as good as mohomes and they just don't have as many playmakers as the chiefs and also the other difference is like you're just not going to beat him at arrowhead so while i've been saying in pretty It does feel like this is the year. The Chiefs lose in the second or the AFC championship game. And then you watch the day and you go, yeah, I don't know.

Like, they're going to be at home. I would imagine, unless they have a major injury in one, you know, leading up to one of the games, they're going to be favored in both the games. And playing at Arrowhead in these conditions, they are very comfortable in those moments. And in that spot. And sometimes the other opponent feels a little. uncomfortable. So I just think what Andy, what Veach, what Mahomes, I mean, down the stretch of that game, on that game winning drive, of just being able, I mean, the first couple of plays

of that drive was like, incompletion, incompletion. I start thinking like, are they going to have to punt? That crossed my mind. Are they going to have to punt? Then all of a sudden, he pulls a couple plays out of his arse. That's what the guy does. I think both these two quarterbacks tonight, Like, if you appreciate football, if you admire football, like this is not going to be some Big Ten 38 to 35 shootout. That's not how these teams play. But if you can't watch those two guys play in big spots and go, those two guys are badasses.

Those two guys could play for my team any day. And I get Mahomes has a lot of hate just because people are tired of them. But like, you can't watch them and go, this guy's remarkable. I mean, that game winning play, even Collins wore said it. For him to juke that guy out running full speed at him, cut back and then throw the little lollipop to Kelsey to ice the game, I mean, that's why the guy's got three championships

and is going to be favored this year to get another one. Now, does that mean it's going to happen? Brady won six, and he lost a lot of time in the playoffs. Hell, he got beat at home by the Rex Ryan Jets. So you're not guaranteed anything, but the championship medal, the championship pedigree, they're just ability to make huge plays because that's how you win all these tight one score games,

one 10 of them, right? They come down to the final drive. It's because they make a play or two, when they have to, on third and five, on third and six. I mean, what Andy did on that final play, I guess it wasn't technically the final play, the play before they started kneeling it,

is he easily could have just ran it. He could have just ran it and taken off 40 seconds and give it back to the chargers with like, whatever, a buck 10, and go, Justin, can you beat us with this random tied-in 84, who actually looks not bad, Johnston, the TCU kid, who actually made some plays, had a touchdown tonight, Palmer, who kind of like his well, but can you beat us on the road? Can you drive 40 or 50 yards? I don't know if you can't. And one of the reasons that benefited the chiefs on that final drive

is I don't quite understand what Dicker the kicker was doing. You know, they kind of got a little cute. he tried to hit the line drive, it landed way too early, they get it at the 40. I mean, that's a pretty massive mistake, especially with an offense who I still believe would have gotten field goal range. But if they didn't get as close as they did and they were forced to kick like a 48, 50-yard field goal with that guy, easily could have missed. I mean, that guy, I have to look up exactly what the kick was, what, 28, 30 yards? I mean, it should have missed.

The doink, your heart kind of drops and then you kind of see it once it kind of balance. in even before they put their hands up, but what a play by Herbert. And ninth rate titles, you know, we talk so much about culture. We talk so much about, you know, drafting the right type guys, building the right type team. Listen, if you like football, I don't see how you don't admire everything the chiefs stand for, how they do it, who they're doing it with. right? It's one thing when you just have a team that's unfair. It happens sometimes in baseball, and we'll talk about that contract that happened tonight a little bit later. But you go, this is stupid. I understood why everyone hated the Kevin Durant Warriors. You know, like, this isn't even fair.

That's not this Chief's team. I mean, he's got DeAndre Hopkins out there that anyone could have had, Juju Smith, a rookie. He's handing the ball to Samaji P. Rhine and Kareem Hunt. So, and they have multiple defenders on the back end injured. Just awesome. I mean, Andy, these are big moments in a dynasty. Because it's a huge muscle flex. It's a huge muscle flex. It was open for people to steal it.

And the Chiefs somehow are going to be the number one seat? It's going to be a long flight home for the bills. And on the flip side of, when they came storming back in that game, down 13 to nothing and kind of understandable. I mean, when I got done recording with Colin, I go out to the living room and I think it was 3-0-0-0-0-0-Chiefs

and Herbert had already, I think, rolled his ankle or something because they had taped it more. Then he got hit in the knee, I think by Bolton, and he's down on the ground, he's limping around, the backup has to come in for a play.

He just looks bruised and battered. It's 13-0-0-5 and you're like, listen, this got like 20 to 3 written all over it, where they just kind of choke them out like a boa constrictor. It's just not the Chargers night. You hold your head high, tough spot. And then they come storming back and you go, that third quarter, it's like,

this is why Ohio State with Ryan Day always gets their ass kicked by this guy in this culture, because they are just simply tougher than you. The toughness that the Chargers have under this guy, it'd be like having me as your bodyguard, for like a couple years, I don't really know what I'd be able to do to protect you, and then firing me and getting SEAL Team 6.

That's what it has to feel like, going like from Brandon Staley to Jim Harbaugh. It has to be one of the single greatest upgrades in the history of sport. Not football, not the NFL, I'm talking sport. How tough this team is, how well coached this team is. They should not be this good.

look who they're playing with. And it all starts with the coach, who is a certified badass. And one thing I think Jim has done, these last couple years at Michigan, and you see it now, he's calmed down a lot. He used to be more of a wild card up and down.

And he does feel, I'm not saying he's Andy in terms of his body language and the way he carries himself, but he's much closer to that than he is to what, you know, he used to be like a Kirby smart, like what Nick Saban was when he was younger,

just a maniac on the sideline. And he's calmed down. And I think his team reflects it. And like I said with Mahomes, if you watch Justin Herbert play and your takeaway isn't, this guy is freaking awesome, we're not watching the same sport.

If we were having beers sitting at a bar, I don't know if I'd be able to talk to you for long. And I get it. We argue over players. It's what makes the, it's also fun. And some players you can have legitimate arguments about. Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy.

But like at this point, if you watch Herbert play under Harbaugh, I don't know what the argument is. Obviously, he's an elite talent. His toughness is proving this year to be second to nut. And then his just straight ability on the road in Kansas City, it's like, holy fuck this guy is good. To me, this franchise, like, they're going to have problems. Like probably not going to be able to win a playoff game.

It's going to be very difficult depending on the matchup. Maybe they can keep it close for a half, but they're not going to have enough on offense. To me, if you watch the Penn State Oregon game, first round, if you're drafting like pick early 20s, Tyler Warren, the tight end, has the chargers written all over them. Can you imagine that guy on that offense?

In this draft, one position it's completely loaded with, is running backs. When I'm talking to scouts, watching football, my guess is there'd be eight to ten guys go in the top 100. During that game in the second half, when they were coming back, and they're forcing to give Gus Edwards carries, I googled their picks. They have all their picks. So to me, in the second or third round, draft one of these running backs.

Iowa has one. Washington has one. Ohio State has one. Beside even Gentie. The ASU kid. Scataboo. Get one of these guys. Like, they are a tight end and a running back away from building this team. Like, they're never going to draft wide receivers high.

That's not the way Harbaugh operates. And it was so clear at the end of the game when Mack takes out Bosa. It's like, remember when we're like, I wonder what players they're going to get rid of. And it was four. The two receivers and the two linemen. It's like, well, yeah, no shit he kept the two linemen. Jim Harbaugh. And their defense is.

the number one scoring defense in the NFL. It's awesome. It's really good. And they're going to need some help on offense. McConkey, good pick. Alt, good pick. But they need help at running back. They need either a big outside wide receiver,

which he's just not going to invest high in. I just have a hard time seeing him do that. So if he's not going to do that, take the tight end. And, you know, he looks like 6-6 out there. Give Herbert a massive target. That's what Mahomes is used for six, seven years now. So props to the Chargers, this last stretch, to me, they just got to win two of their last four games during the playoffs. They should be able to do that.

It doesn't get much more difficult than playing the Chiefs at Arrowhead. They're eight and five. They won five games last year. Their next game is the Buccaneers at home. Then they get the Broncos at home. Then they go to the Patriots and to the Raiders. So to me, if they win one of these next two games, they're probably sweeping those last two,

so they would go three and one, and they would win 11 games. But I think when you look at their schedule, they're basically a lock for 10 games. And since they, like, that's an awesome accomplishment. Wild card. And they're going to be a team with Jim Harbaugh, Justin Herbert, that no one's going to want to play.

But it's tough for them to run the ball. Not because their offensive line isn't good, not because their team's not tough, because their running backs kind of suck with J.K. Dobbins being at home. And then when they're forced to pass, it's just difficult. They don't have that much skill. Jim Harbaugh, because of his personality and he's good at this, he's big at talking a guy up and giving him almost fake confidence.

Like, Quentin Johnson does not have very good hands. But he clearly is a very skilled player. And Harbaugh all year long has propped him up, propped him up. And tonight he came through. He's letting him down in some games. I wouldn't even say let them down. balls are going to go through his hands. That's what happens when you don't have great, you know, ability to catch.

Some people believe, like, if a wide receiver has questionable hands, they're off the board because literally their job is to catch. I think some people in the scouting world and even coaches, you know, there are, like, D.K. Meccaf does not have great hands. Hell, Torel Owens never had great. To me, there are physical freaks that you make exceptions for. Now, D.K. went at the end of the second round. Terrell was what, like a third or fourth round pick.

Quinn Johnson was drafted in the first round. Now, you do see glimpses of like his size, his physical ability at a touchdown or night. Like he's very, very talented. But when catching is a coin flip, it can be difficult to rely on a player that probably is your most skilled guy out there. Now, luckily, like, they just inherit him. You just keep him around, keep working with him.

But he kind of is what it is. other than that I'm a sucker listen the Big Ten Championship game was really fun what was the final score like 45 to 40 or 42 to 38 or whatever it was and just seeing

touchdown after touchdown like listen I have no problem with those games I'm a sucker maybe it's the football I grew up on in the 90s like I don't mind a game like Sunday night a game that just feels at any moment every single player that's tackled is going to need help up off the ground

for the sport that has you know officiated and regulated the violence out of it it's a lot different game than in the 90s and the 2000s but there are still moments and stretches in games like tonight that just feel like

this is a violent game this is a game where if you're an offensive player you better have your chin strap buckled in both spots because you are going to get hit if you're a running back coming downhill there are going to be three people coming downhill at you. Everyone is flying around.

And I appreciate that type football. I don't need every one of my games to be 31 to 28. I was fine with that. Some might call it ugly football. Some might call no offense. I call that just like, I call that the NFL. So enjoyable. Congrats to the Chiefs, nine straight AFC titles.

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it was 3-0-0-and-half-time. This morning slate was tough. This morning slate really was, especially coming off all the college games. We had the SEC championship go to overtime. We had the Oregon Penn State game, which was awesome in the second half, and we had the ACC championship game,

which was pretty incredible. I had to walk off whatever 55-yard field goal. to then go to like Bucks Raiders. You're like, I'm trying to get into this. It's like Eagles, Carolina, who it is the craziest part about wide receivers, no matter their shape or size. They could be small skinny guys,

they could be tall big guys, it does not matter. They all come back to the same human being. The Eagles have won nine straight games, tying a record in the first. franchise. If they win next week, which is a tough game against Steelers, they will break a franchise record for 10 straight wins. That's an incredible accomplishment. If you win like five straight games in the NFL, you're going to be in pretty good shape. Because most time, you're over

under 500 by a game or two. So if you go on a five game winning streak, you're more than likely be six, seven games over 500. You go on a nine game winning streak, you're whatever, 11 and 2. I mean, It's just you're in cruise control. Yet after the game, AJ Brown, who is highly paid, who is one of, what I thought, one of Jaylen's best friend, listen, the Eagles passing game isn't very good.

It isn't very good. Jalen Hertz is not exactly Herbert or Mahomes from the pocket. That's not the way he's going to play. And they haven't really had to do because Saquan is dominating. Saekwon is headed for a 2,000-yard season. Usually when you have a 2,000-yard rusher, you're going to have a lot of passing performances that the guy's number is going to start with a 1.

150, 160, 120, because the other guy's going for 180, 200 yards. And for A.J. Brown, depending on what tweet or Instagram you see, some headlines are a little salacious, but he's just kind of acting like a diva. Like, the whole point of this is to win. And the whole point of a player is to be a winning player,

and a productive player and get paid. Well, he's been a winning player. He's been a productive player, and he's literally paid really high. Yet the moment you don't get the ball as a wide receiver, they all do this. They start moping. It's like, it's the whole,

like you guys are in incredible position. Like, you are in position to literally compete to win the Super Bowl. It's crazy. I just, I don't get it. But he's not alone. This happens to them all. It's like a character trait of them. maybe because they're isolated out there.

I know cowards always have the theory. They're like the NBA player of football. But how could you be mad? Like, who cares? You're running some routes. You're winning games. You're netting a couple million dollars per game. Life is good.

One game that actually I was excited to watch in the morning window was Falcons, Minnesota, which I think was the best game on paper. And one of the more entertaining games, game still about the fourth quarter. And in that game, Cousins, who now is not thrown a touchdown in four straight games, and I think has seven or eight

interceptions over that period of time. He had two interceptions today. And it's just playing bad football. He does not look good. Some people in the NFL, I was texting during the college games, we ended up talking about NFL stuff. Some people think he's cooked. And I think if you've watched in the last couple weeks,

you could come to that conclusion. I remember former GM told me about a quarterback they signed. This is, you know, probably 15, 20 years ago, but when the guy was running a team and he signed an older quarterback. And he said, you know what, John? In training camp, the guy looked like his former, you know, pro bowl self. And then the first month of the season, I was like, we might have had the signing of the off season.

He's like, but you know what happened? As the season went on, his 36, 37-year-old body, started his show. And he slowly became one of the worst players in the NFL. And it was a disaster. And I do wonder if cousins coming off this injury early on in the season, once he kind of got his footing, looked out, look solid, looked good, made some plays. Falcons were decent.

And then as time went on, his age kind of caught up to him. Because remember, he hurts his Achilles last year with whatever, six, seven weeks to go, five, six weeks, does not do a lot. anything all off season up until training camp, so he's kind of fresh. Well, now he's not fresh anymore, and he's looking old. And then Greg Olson, as he's throwing interceptions, it's kind of unraveling. Their seasons literally unraveling. They've lost four straight games. They're six and seven. They're not even in first place in their division the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are. And it kind of comes up, like, should they go to Pennix? Is it time? And Greg Olson's like, yeah, I don't think they will

turn on them this fast. Turn on them this fast. We're December 8th. We've lost four straight games. This is not a player that has any equity with anybody. He has no equity with the fans. He has no equity with these coaches. Rahim Morris literally said, when asked, why is your coaching staff so big? He said, because we're going to win. And when you win in this league, your coaches get poached. And we want to have backup coaches on our staff. So when our coaches get post, we're We don't have to retrain guys, which in theory makes a lot of sense. The problem is no one's poaching anyone from the Atlanta Falcons. They fucking suck.

And the Minnesota Vikings on the flip side, you saw a quarterback who looks like he's coming into his own. Sam Darnold looks like a $40 million quarterback in the NFL. Through five touchdowns today, scrambled around, makes huge plays, throws the ball down field. The Vikings two best players, constantly get the ball because Sam can get him the ball. and we talked about the worst contract in the history of sports for the NFL, Deshawn Watson. You could say one of the great moves in recent business in football is letting Cousins walk off at Achilles for $100 million that you didn't have to give him to then sign Sam Darnold for $10 million.

So if you just look at it purely on guaranteed money, you guarantee him 10, Cousins gets 100. That's a $90 million difference. And your guy, you are, whatever you are, 12 and 2. 12 and 2, that would be three games. You're 11 and 2. And he has thrown 28 touchdowns. And you currently are right behind Detroit,

who's having the greatest season they've ever had. You're one game back. And they play this week the Bills. And you play them the last game of the season. can just hold serve like you got a shot and sam donald right now has to be on the short list of best quarterbacks in the nfc he's playing fantastic and when you just watch him play like i i just don't see how you let this guy walk he's 27 years old he's got a huge arm he can move he's clearly a high character guy he knows your offense okay it's always my thing with interceptions

like oh he throw some picks well does he make up for it well yeah he's got a three to one interception ratio. Well, live with that all day long. It's one thing if you throw 12 interceptions, you only throw 22 touchdowns. Like, that's a problem. If you throw 15 interceptions, like, damn, that's a lot. Well, I also throw 40 touchdowns. It's like, oh, I can live with that. I can win with that. So, at this point in time, Atlanta is insane to let cousins go down with the ship.

Anyone that's watched baseball, like, it's time to go to the bullpen. And if you can hear, if you're listening to this on the podcast version, I'm tapping my left arm. It's time to go to the lefty. What do you got to lose now? But more games. Like, you can't function with this guy. Is Michael Panix going to be awesome if you just insert him right now?

I'm not saying that. But you can't keep rolling this out. You cannot. And this was the dumb part about this whole scenario. Of like, well, when we think Pennix is ready, we'll just ship cousins out. Ship cousins out. One, he's got a no-trade. clause and two, he averages like $40 plus million a year.

Find me a team that could watch the last four games of a 36, 37-year-old, who has always been a polarizing player and now feels like his arrow is pointed straight into the ground is going to trade to give you a six-round pick for this guy to pay him that much money. If you told me Cousins made $11 million, okay, yeah, someone would take a fly. He makes $40 plus billion next year. Who is trading for that guy? Like, it was just, this move, it was a head scratcher at the time when they did their situation.

It just feels, it's backfired. I understood why they signed cousins pretty desperate, but like, I think rule of thumb in the business world, and just life, be very, very careful when you make deals out of desperation. Right? You're not always going to have total leverage. You're not always going to be Juan Soto doing a deal

but like try to be able to have a little bit of levity try to be able to take a deep breath and just see the big picture. They did not. They were so desperate for a quarterback. Here's $100 million. And now we're 13 games into the season and Cousins is killing them.

Talk about a guy who's not killing them is this has to be one of the better comeback stories in recent memory because of how bad this guy was when he played. Like there is no way to watch this guy. Let's even throw away his rookie year. Let's just watch early on this season.

You had to have the thought, like, is Bryce Young going to be out of the NFL? Like, is Bryce Young not an NFL player? If you had that statement or that conversation with somebody, if you just watched a half of them somewhere in the first three or four weeks, you would not have been crazy. That was the only conversation to really have. Like, it's crazy how awful this player is. this version that we have seen since he's come back after Andy Dalton got in the car accident

I thought like the first couple weeks I got a fun story like today I thought he was good today his ability to like scramble around and make plays this is what Sam Darnold is doing such a good job of obviously as a quarterback you got to be able to sit there and hit basic passes a wheel route an out route a slant route you know just be able to do basic football things at the end NFL level. So sit in the pocket, a couple steps, boom, hit a guy. Or get the ball out and put it in position where the guy can catch it. Then it's on the receiver, get open, all that stuff. But you got to be able to do that.

Welcome to football. I would say half your passing attempts, especially on second and third and long, you're going to be moved around a little bit. Whether one of your offensive line gets smoked and you kind of got to scramble, or you just naturally have to move out of the pocket to keep a play alive. And you're watching him play right now. And you're going, this little dude is a playmaker. Where was, we saw no shades of this.

And today he made a winning throw. He made a throw that should have won them the game. And Xavier Leggett, who's got one of the great accents in the history of humans, who also had a couple drops today, just dropped the ball. Which, you know, I kind of look like a catch, look like a drop. The ball definitely hit the ground. Did he have full control of it? they called it essentially, you know,

they called it an incompletion, but he dropped the ball. But Bryce hit him in the hands. And if he catches that ball, like, the Panthers win the game. And it's no shame. One, if you're the Eagles being in a game with the Panthers, they're literally in the game with everyone.

And whenever I hear someone say, like, and this was talked about all year long, oh, it's like they got the Panthers is one of their last games. Well, yeah, four or five weeks ago, that was a lock W they're a real team right now and it's because of him

and I don't know what happened I don't know if the lights some you know light went off in his head whether he just gained his confidence maybe he stopped giving a shit whatever other people thought maybe he just kind of relaxed maybe he just said screw it I'm just going to go back to my Alabama days and just play

not think I have no clue but whatever he did whatever they did to infuse some of this belief. Like, this guy looks like a real player. I mean, this guy looks like someone you can compete to win games with. So I think he deserves the most credit because people can try to give you confidence. People can build you up, but eventually you got to go out there and do it. And right now he's doing that.

And little fuckers making some play. So he's fun to watch. Today the Giants Whenever this happens It's usually the end For everyone involved Except the guy that owns the team

Whether that's It's usually in baseball or football Because it's an outdoor arena And someone rents a little puddle jumper And they print something behind it And the thing flies over the stadium And today Before the Giants game

Or they lost again they flew a plane that said please Mr. Mara fix this dumpster fire and at first I said well this is typical I've seen this before like when I was in the Bay Area it happened in the I think the Jim Tom Sula year it happens when things are going really bad and then I started thinking

who in New York talks like that please Mr. Mara fix this dumpster fire if I found someone from Queens or, you know, Long Island or Jersey, some big Giants fan, not in a million years would they talk like.

Fans don't talk like that. That feels, you know my theory on this? John Mara paid for that. John Mara had that up there. Because it's been well reported. John Marr does not want to fire these guys. He doesn't want to. And I understand, like he doesn't,

going through a search has to be the big pay in the end. ass. And he hired these guys because he believed in them. They were a big part of the Buffalo Bills regime that turned the franchise around. I believe in you guys. And it couldn't be going any worse. They lost today to the Saints, a team that also sucks 14 to 11. I mean, the Giants are really, really rough watch. Their offensive line is horrendous. Whenever I looked up, they were on one of the boxes. I kept seeing Joe Shane. He was sitting there in the box like with his binoculars, like he's a scout. You know, he's scouting around.

It's like, Joe. I can't imagine. One thing I would never miss about working in the NFL, when you're part of just a god-awful team, and you have to pretend like we got a chance, like, no, we got no chance to beat anybody. Honestly, we might not be able to beat Ohio State, Notre Dame, or Oregon right now.

We stink. And I got blood on my hands as the guy that built this thing. So Joe Shane I think John Marr is making it look so ugly Again, this is the theory I'm throwing out there That it makes it a little easier Like look, fans are turning on me They're buying planes

I know this If I had the means and who knows I have no clue what it would cost To pay that puddle jumper to fly around For an hour before the game Maybe it's not as expensive you think Maybe it costs a couple grand But let's just maybe it's 50 grand

I have no clue I couldn't even I wouldn't even know where to start But John would he knows a lot of people in aviation. Why he hasn't been to a commercial airport probably in his entire life? And if you're him, you want to make it look even worse. It's why I go back to that video that came out this offseason of him sitting there saying I wouldn't be able to sleep at night.

Well, if Joe Shane and Dayball had the final say on everything, in what world, if you were in their shoes, would you look at the guys in the NFL films and be like, yeah, leave that on there? Yeah, just, yeah, put HBO. Yeah, give it to him. Just let them play that to the world. Yeah, that's going to play well. That's good idea.

Oh, of me laughing, that's sake while's not going to the Eagles. He's not going to the Eagles with a smile. In what world, if you were Joe Shane, would you have given the thumbs up? I felt, and I've said it from the moment that I started watching that show, that felt like John Mara wanted some of that stuff out there.

Like, hey, listen, I'm trying to be the good guy. I'm not, you know, Al Davis in 2008, I'm not trying to fire people every couple years. But listen, I screwed up. I screwed up. And I might have to do it again. So you guys are all going to call me, you know, Looney now that every couple years I'm just fire, fire, fire, fire.

I don't want to. I'm trying to hire the right guy. But I keep hiring the wrong people and I want you to see the incompetence I'm dealing with right now. I told him, I spoke for all you guys. I won't be able to sleep. My guy Middilcoff up in Lake Tahoe while he's recording a podcast said, Sequin's going to shatter records this year.

He's going to dominate. And everyone on social media told those guys at the volume, Middlecom, this guy's an idiot. Come on, he's going to dominate. Yeah, he is. And now he might be headed toward like Eric Dickerson and Barry Sanders' records.

I didn't think it was going to be that good, but holy shit, just broke LaShawn McCoy's record. December 8. I just wonder if John Mara is the guy throwing kerosene on this fire. Because he does, not want to look like an idiot.

And anytime you fire people over and over, people are just going to say that it's you. And it might be, but I do think he's trying to do the right thing. I understood why he hired those two guys. It has not worked. The GM is completely over his head. The team sucks. I mean, they are terrible. I saw a clip, I think on YouTube of Brian Baldinger.

I don't know, do you call into like Rich Eisen's show or I don't know where I, maybe I saw it on Instagram where he's like, listen, I played offensive line. I'm not trying to be this raging, you know what, a hole here. But I think the game that Evan Neal played against the Dallas Cowboys is the worst game I've seen played by any player this year in the NFL. And this is the guy that watches all 22 every game, every week. And he's like, listen, I'm not, I had some cutups. I didn't even put him out on Twitter because I'm not trying to be that guy.

I'm not trying to kick a guy when he's down. Maybe he's just injured. But this guy is the worst player currently in the NFL. I mean, he played the worst game I've seen this year by any offensive linemen. That's what they're rolling out. So I just, I think the Giants got issues, and I think John Marr knows it. And I think he's trying to set up a situation where you can fire everybody and almost make it look worse before the offseason even starts.

Hey, it's us, the Jonas brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. The news, huge news. We created our own podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it.

We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how did we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.

before Jonas Brothers This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, Hey, Jonas.

And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

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Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A couple quick things on college football. We did a video reaction on Saturday night after the championship games. We now have the bracket. which I'll get me and intern Jackson will go over on Tuesday and break it down.

I mentioned this to Colin. I think anyone with a brain agrees. There is no reason. I mean none to go college basketball style. You're locked into your bracket. Right? Which in college basketball can be awesome if there's a huge upset and you're a team and you get a shittier team. You get a huge break.

In football, use the NFL. we reseed. So if you're the number one overall seed and the seven seed upsets the two seed, you play them in the next round. You're not locked into a bracket. And I think when you look at this bracket,

that Oregon, who had the best season this year in college football, they're the only team that did not lose a game. They beat two of the best teams in the country in Ohio State and Penn State. and they be Penn State essentially as a road game on Saturday night in Indianapolis. And they were up big before Penn State kind of rallied a comeback. For them having to play the winner of Ohio State and Tennessee,

while Boise and Arizona State you could argue get easier games, to me is insane. What Oregon should get is whoever is the lowest seed remaining after the first round games. That's who they should play. to not be locked into a bracket. So before we get into all the other stuff, that has to happen. And the other thing is,

Alabama, I have no problem with them not making the tournament. Though I do believe that the SEC is in a different universe than the ACC. So saying, I got three losses, you got two losses, you got one loss in the regular season, I got three. I am playing so many more NFL players on a weekly basis than you are.

Honestly, it's not even close. So us trying to compare how do you do that? Or it's pretty easy in the NFL, like the Atlanta-Minnesota game, the Steeler-Bangle game, we all view it kind of as equals, even though some records are better. It's all hard.

That's not the case in college football. And if I ran the ACC and I was George Sankey, like listen, we and really Ohio State, Oregon, and Penn State rating for the Big Ten in Michigan, are carrying this sport. Our games do by far the biggest numbers. And unlike the NFL, where we're all under the same umbrella,

so if I'm the Raiders or I'm the Patriots and I suck, and you're the Chiefs, and you're the Lions, and your games are doing Sunday night and Monday night and huge primetime games, we're all in the same world, we're all profiting from it equally. That's not the way college works. Like the SEC, we make different money than the ACC, than the Big Ten, we're all kind of independent that way.

And then we get huge raises or huge bonuses based on the college football playoffs. If I'm the SEC moving forward, like everyone's arguing right now, why play tough games anymore, which they're basically talking about out-of-conference games, when the reality is Alabama didn't make the playoffs because they lost a Vanderbilt in Oklahoma.

You're just trying to make an excuse. But I would say, I need a guarantee amount of teams every single. single year. Because the sport is being put on our backs. Google the ratings this year. The reason for this explosion and interest in our sport really started with saving the last 15 years. But now it's being carried by us these night games for ESPN, which is one of the great television deals probably since like 1993 when Fox bought the NFL. But I can't have one more team than the ACC. Like, that shit ain't

gonna fly for me. So we either figure this out or fuck, we'll go our own way. Because this is not good business for us. And you need us more than we need you. And you guys all know that. So I think Greg Sankey, like, we've got to figure some things out.

And this is where I think the Big Ten and the ACC start going, we need guarantees how many teams we're getting in every year. and ideally it'd be unwritten, but if we've got to get in writing and let the world know, we don't care. Because this sport doesn't function without us.

That big noon game, which is mainly Ohio State this year, and all the SEC games are the games that are rating. No one is watching Miami play North Carolina. Nobody is watching Utah play Kansas State relative to those games. So are we all in this together? Kind of not really.

But where we make our huge, huge, huge, money is these playoffs and we can't carry the sport for three months to then get asked out at the end for the ACC where Clemson Florida State in Miami and North Carolina would leave in a New York minute to join the SEC so fast your head would spin but they have some crazy deal that they can't even buy out of they want no part of it because they know this is where the cash flows but then when it's time to get our big bonuses, we get screwed. You can see problems in the headwind coming.

And right now they can't technically do anything because I think in fairness to them, they were so cocky and arrogant that they thought for sure, they probably thought they were going to get five teams. And then dust settles and they only get three. And you've got a school like Indiana and the Big Ten getting an extra school, it's got to piss them off.

And usually when you're pissed off in business, and this is not something that you're just, going to get over in a couple days, it's going to create change. And you watch, I bet the SEC, it's one thing to make a stink, like putting out press releases and tweet. It's another thing to like, we're going to need to change on this, we're out. And I would expect something bold to happen like this offseason. Appreciate everyone listening.

I will see you tomorrow after the Monday night football game. It's the Cowboys and the Bengals, I think, I think. yeah, Cowboys Mangles. So it should be Bengals, maybe. Could be the Browns. I guess the Browns play today. I don't know. Don't even care. But I'll see you after the money in the game. Have a great day. See you.

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