The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 & Out - Why did Purdy start, Saints will win the division, Bo Nix is a STUD

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

John reacts to the week 2 preseason action and starts with why he feels it was INSANE for Kyle Shanahan to start QB Brock Purdy while all of the other starters sat. Then John states why it is in WR Brandon Aiyuk's best interest to stay in San Fran if he wants to win and why he is betting on the Derek Carr led New Orleans Saints to win the NFC South. Finally, John explains why the combo of Sean Payton and Bo Nix will work for the Denver Broncos. Later, John answers your questions in this episode's mailbag segment. 7:37 - Why did Kyle start Brock Purdy 13:51 - Where Aiyuk has the best chance to win 18:51 - Saints will win the division 22:20 - Why Sean Payton and bo Nix will work 43:55 - Tom brady did a walk-thru Follow John on Twitter, Instagram and YouTube for the latest. Check out Gametime - the fastest growing ticketing app in the US, and the official ticketing app of 3 & Out and GoLow -  for tickets to all of your favorite NFL, NBA, NHL, NCAA teams. Concert and comedy show tickets, too. Go to Gametime now to create an account, download the app and use code JOHN for $20 off your first purchase. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What is going on, everybody, John Middilcoff 3 and Out podcast? How are we doing? It's a beautiful Monday. Well, I'm recording this on a Sunday. I went out with Colin before the Sunday night football games, the Niner game, the Bronco game,

and we talked for about an hour and about football. And then after watching, you know, the first quarter and a half of Kyle doing something kind of crazy with Purdy, Edelman on Ayyuk, watching the Saints first teamers, and then watching Bo Nicks. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to do another podcast as well.

And also I want to talk a little bit about Tom Brady and who was at the game the night. Him and Burkart were kind of doing test runs. It's hard not to get excited because we got one more week of preseason and then the regular season is about 10 days around the corner and real football is often running. Obviously, college football, week zero is this week. Week 1 is the following week, the holiday weekend, which is always exciting.

And then we got real games, which you get excited for preseason, and then all of a sudden you're like watching backup quarterback. You're like, I can't, this is not as fun as it should be. And usually pivot and go do something else. Well, those days are close to being over, which excites me. So we'll talk a little bit about some of the stuff I saw tonight. and yeah so you guys know the drill three now podcast if you listen on collins feed

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But there can't be a more successful coach given he's been to four NFC championship games in the last five years, been to multiple Super Bowls. Obviously, didn't win them. But every coach besides Andy Reid basically currently in the NFL and maybe McVeigh would sign up for that. And yet Kyle Shanahan is pretty controversial in internet land. And I defend him. I think he's one of the best coaches. I think his style translates.

He has an offensive philosophy that he can adapt to. He's proven he can win with multiple quarterbacks now. Jimmy Garoppel and Brock Purdy. So he calls the plays, can coach two quarterbacks who, let's face it, aren't exactly Patrick Mahomes or Josh Allen talent-wise. And because of his philosophical belief in physical run game, to me it benefits the offense, or excuse me, the defense, and their defense is always really physical.

And John Lynch, whatever the Steelers do when it comes to wide receivers, John Lynch is proving to do that when it comes to safeties. They have about seven safeties that easily could have played in the 90s. They want to hit and they want to hit hard. But tonight was befuddling. Tonight was a head scratcher. Tonight was, I can't defend Kyle on this one. He rolled out Brock Purdy with a bunch of second and third stringers.

A bunch of guys that are not going to play against the New York Jets come week one. A bunch of guys who are not legitimately not players. I mean, will not be on the 53 potentially. against the Saints who we'll talk about in a minute I think are going to have one of the better defense in the league and we're rolling out their starters. I'm all for picking a lane. If you want to be a new school guy and play nobody,

I totally get it. The amount of money that's on the line in this modern day NFL, you're paying guys, guards 15, 20 million, obviously quarterbacks make a ton, wide receivers make a ton, totally get it. You start pass rushers, it is not. not worth the risk. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. I understand it. Now, if you want to play in the lane of Andy Reed, I've been coaching this league for 35 years, I've been a head coach since 99,

and I play my guys in the preseason. Totally get it. But you can't dip your toe in the water. You either got to jump in the deep end and swim. Andy did it. I was watching some of the game before I went golfing on Saturday. Guess what happened? He rolled out my homes. With who? Oh, there's Travis Kelsey. Oh, there's Rishi Rice. You know the guys he depended on in their Super Bowl run? One of the greatest tight ends of all time.

And this other guy, if he wouldn't, you know, take substances and get behind a Lamborghini, we'd be talking about being one of the breakout stars in the leagues, probably going to get suspended. But real high-end players. Yet today, when the 49ers opened up on Fox, which felt kind of big, at least the pregame, they got Julian Edelman and Carissa. George Kittle walks out in sweats. Debo Samuel walks out in sweats in Louis sunglasses. It looks pretty good.

Trent Williams is at home doing who knows what somewhere. Even Kyle's like, yeah, I think he's in Houston. Brandon Ayuk, probably at home on Instagram. Christian McCaffrey, not playing in the preseason. What the hell are you doing? That is insanity to roll out purdy against one of the best defenses with Randos. you could have got the guy killed. You almost did.

He was getting peppered every play. And then Purdy's run around trying to play Hero Bowl. What's going on? How does that make any sense? Even on the flip side. Dennis Allen, we're going to play our guys. Okay. Who does Derek roll out with?

I don't know. Chris Alave? Taysam Hill? Guys that he's going to play with in week one? I don't get it. And this is the reason Kyle Shanahan like can't get everyone behind him

every once in a while I'll just have one of these head scratchers like what's going on here in what world does this make any sense are you trying to go well if we pay the guy $60 million this is going to be the squad well if that's the case

and this is ever going to be your squad just get ready to draft to the top five because that would be an embarrassment no one would watch by week seven or eight the TVs would be turned off in the Bay Area and you wouldn't be playing any preseason games.

Trust me, I've seen it. It's called Jim Tom Sulla, Chip Kelly. Rating's plummeted. We weren't paying attention. I do not understand rolling out your starting quarterback. And I don't want to call them scrubs,

because some of these guys are going to make the 53, but not starters. When your premium players are in sweats, your quarterback's got to be in sweats. And listen, I understand Trent Williams isn't there, so you're going to have some random

offensive linemen in the game. But if George Kittle and Debo Samuel and Christian McCaffrey can't play, Brock Purdy should not play. The risk in those six or seven plays when he's scrambling around and the Saints' defensive linemen are chasing him and hitting him, I thought was absolute insanity. We've gone back and forth and talked a lot about like some craziness over the preseason, like Judon and Mayo screaming at each other, you know,

it's on Reddick's trade, which, Some of it is like kind of serious, but also kind of funny. Like, there was nothing funny about this. This was crazy. This was legitimately made no sense. This was one of those where if you were some random coach with no equity, I mean, people would be looking at you side-eyed in the building. I just, I can't fathom the decision-making that went behind this to roll out Purdy with that crew of characters.

I don't get it. Julian Edelman said something interesting before the game. First and foremost, said usually when you win a Super Bowl, that's when everyone wants to get paid. In the 49er situation, they haven't won a Super Bowl, and everyone's ready to get paid. Though I get Brandon Ayyuk, it's time to get his contract, time to get broken off.

And Trent Williams, well, has a lot left on his contract. It's not guaranteed. And as you saw today, his value to the 49ers clearly went up. But I think Edelman is a good example. and I think Travis Kelsey is another good example. And I've been saying this forever. When you win in sports, your value never ends. You become, especially in a big market, in a big city for a powerhouse team, you become a legend in that franchise.

And your value in terms of ability to earn is forever. Jerry Rice is limping around with Brett Farvin commercials now at 55 years old. Joe Montana gets paid wherever he goes. Hell, obviously Tom Brady won a bunch of Super Bowls. He got almost $400 million to call a football game, which he never has yet. Zero prior experience. Fox gave him $375 million.

Fox opened up tonight with Julian Edelman, who's not going to go to the Hall of Fame, who didn't break any records. Yet is a three-time Super Bowl champion and won a Super Bowl MVP. and we'll be able to earn off his name till the moment he's buried because of the name recognition

being synonymous with winning. And Brandon Iuk clearly knows that because he told the Patriots to kick rocks. He didn't want to go to the Browns. Don't really understand his mindset on going to the Steelers. That would be a disaster. His best chance to be a star in the league is to stay on the 49ers.

Because if Brandon Ayuk was currently going through the situation, On a random team, on a team that consistently drafts in the top 10, you know what we'd be doing? Not talking about Brandon Ayyuk. No one would care beside that individual market. Yet this has been one of the biggest national stories. This guy catches 75 balls a year. We're not talking about Randy Moss or Tyree Kill.

I mean, that's not the case here. But because he's part of a winner and a powerhouse franchise, we discuss them. And it's become a big, big national story. I'd be discussing them no matter what, but it wouldn't be the same if you put him on the Minnesota Vikings or the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Or he was on the New England Patriots. No one would care. And I think Edelman is right because you've seen Kelsey hasn't made as much as he could playing for the Chiefs. But you know what? He's known as a legend.

Three times Super Bowl championship. champion. One of the great players of all time. Synonymous with greatness. See it all the time in the NBA. Now, those guys get paid, but like these guys that don't win, no one's going to care about them once their career is over. When you have rings, and I love when players push the game culture. Well, yeah, that's the whole point of the sport. That is the reason you play to try to win a championship. Like most of our businesses are like, yeah, you can always make more money. We're doing well. we could do better.

When it comes to team sports or individual sports, there is like a finality to it all. On a given tournament, on a given season, do you win or do you lose? And that's how we judge you. And that's how you make money for the rest of your life. Are you a champion or are you not a champion? And obviously the best chance for this guy to be a champion

is with this team. And the best chance for this guy to keep winning is with this team. So I don't know all the details of this situation. Honestly, I think it's semi-embarrassing. Like, I get having crazy back-and-force

with Nick Bosa, with T.J. Watt, with the great players. I mean, the truly great players. The really, really good ones, like, I kind of side with management on that one, would drive me a little nuts.

John Lynch had to come back from vacation and meet with this guy over the summer. And I like Brandon A.U. I like him a lot. But, holy shit. I mean, let's pump the brakes here. We're not talking about Jerry Rice. So,

Trent Williams, like, I get it. I do. First ballot hall of fame. One of the best tackles of all time. He wants to be a pain in the ass and asks for way more money than you think he's worth. Like, that's part of the game.

There's a business. This one is like, let's get this deal done. Like, we all know you don't want to leave because you had the opportunity. Called your bluff on that one. I get this negotiating tactics. It's getting weird, but like, time to end this thing. time to get the show on the road here.

On the flip side, I feel pretty good about this take. I think I'm going to put a future bet on the Saints to win the division, partly because of value, and partly because I think they're going to be pretty good. Their defense clearly is good. Not really debatable at this time. Like, they were good last year.

They're going to be good again this year. The question mark with the franchise was offense. Is their offense good enough? And so far, it's like, last year it was not. And then you hire Kubiak's kid who comes from Kyle.

And now the history of the McVeigh and Kyle guys has been pretty good. This is not the Belichek tree. When you hire these guys to be your coordinator or your head coach, kind of works.

As long as they keep calling plays, i.e. Robert Sala. Call the defense, buddy. To me, this is going to come down to their success, Kubiak and Derek. And there were a couple throws in night like

the difference why Cousins is a better player than Derek, I'm talking small, small margins of accuracy. A ball a little behind a guy on an out route where if it's two feet toward the sideline, it's an easy completion in a first down. And in this offense, they're not asking you to be Patrick Mahomes. Because the Saints, I think, are going to be pretty good running the ball.

As they said on the broadcast, no team is paying their running back room more than New Orleans Saints. But there were a couple pasts tonight. One was complete. One was not. Or Derek was just a tick off. The key in this offense is accuracy. They will scheme guys open.

If you're having success running the football, you're going to get some pretty layup throws for NFL quarterbacks. And Derek's making a lot of money to make those throws. The pressure on him is pretty massive. Obviously, Kubiak first-time play caller. Obviously, there's pressure there, but I'm watching the night, like, guys are open. Derek's got to hit that.

And we discussed that kind of that group of guys that Derek used to be considered in and then kind of fell out. Like the golf, the cousins, the DAC. Like, they hit those. They don't do some of the spectacular ship, but they hit some of the basics. That's why if your team's good enough,

you can win 11, 12 games with them. And when they get really good games, they look really good. They also have some down games, but maybe their defense carries them. So I like the Saints this year. I like them a lot. but obviously betting on Derek can be a risky proposition.

And tonight, like, I'm talking pretty minute details here of a throw. And that could be the difference of being 9 and 8 again and having a good team or being 10 and 7 and win the division or being 11 and 6. Because I think their defense, it will not shock me at all if their top 5 defense. They definitely have some pieces on offense. A lot of people talk shit about Tate some Hill. Obviously, he's not a quarterback. He could play for my team any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Chris Alave, pretty good. Alvin Kamara, pretty good. The offensive linemen, they drafted in the first round from Oregon State. Like that guy a lot. He's going to be a player. So Derek got a lot of money. Did this big free agency tour. Gets a little bit of a pass last year.

Presses on him. Piss or get off the pot. And I think I'm going to back them financially. It's going to be a roller coaster. Part of the reason we gamble. Kind of like the highs and lows. Ready for it. Like the value there.

I think the Saints are really, really interesting this year. Colin and I talked about it. We talked before the game. And the more and more I think about it, I bet anyone listening to this, especially if you work in a partner situation or work very, very closely with one individual

in a B2B relationship where that B2B is a majority of your business. where when you do not like the people you work with, it is difficult. I don't care if you're making a lot of money or trying to create something, it can be a challenge. It is why it's way easier

in any professional relationship. You don't have to love the guy. You don't have to go to dinner and hang out of this family, but there has to be a healthy amount of respect. And usually when you respect a guy, if the guy's pretty talented or whoever you're working with, you end up kind of liking them. Think how many people you gravitate toward and befriend after you leave college or your early 20s, whatever you're doing, through a work relationship.

You meet a lot of friends that way. I know some of the people I'm closest with and text all the time are people I've met through football or radio. Hell, I mean, my podcast crew, James, Adam, we text all the time because you work hand in hand. You work closely. So Daniel, new to the operation, just on a group text, you just work together closely. And when you like the other people, it is much easier to operate. Sean Payton was never going to like Russell Wilson. And the moment he watched him play, he couldn't stand him.

And I understood it. Because if I don't really respect you, kind of a weirdo, and then I don't think you're very good. And especially in that situation, when you're making all this money, and I go, you ain't worth this at all. I didn't pay you this. It was destined to fail. And I understand, like, former players, they all are biased toward this. So many of them freaked out. It's bullshit the way they handle the ball.

He got paid $80 million to hit the door. Give me a break. I feel bad for the guy that gets fired, has two kids, and has no money coming in. I feel zero sympathy for a guy who's not any good anymore and couldn't cut it. Can't hack it. And if you watched the Steelers the other day, and I was playing golf when the game was going on, and I got a bunch of DMs, like, you're watching this? I get home and immediately watched it.

He's a washed player. It is what it is. Then you start working with someone you like, someone you respect, especially in a situation like Sean where I can mold them. It's going to work. I don't have the box score in front of me.

I don't need it. If you watch Bo Nicks these last two weeks, play for the Denver Broncos, you go, yeah, that's what it's kind of supposed to look like. I'm not saying he's going to be a Hall of Hamer. I'm not saying he's going to be a future MVP. But he definitely has a lot too. I've been watching this stuff long enough to know. Yeah, I like what I'm seeing. And then I looked at the offensive rookie of the year odds.

Obviously, Caleb is the heavy favorite. He's plus 135 to win the offensive rookie the year. Which those odds are just crazy. Even if you love Caleb, as a gambler, you couldn't bet him. Jaden Daniels is almost five to one. Also pretty intriguing. Even though Dan Quinn I saw yesterday they did like a schemed run, what did Jaden do? What have we been talking about? A lot of talent there.

Caleb got a win from within the pocket to become a star in the future. Jaden Daniels has to find a way to get down. Slide, hit the ground, do whatever. Jaden Daniels ran right through tackles. And Dan Quinn's on the sideline like, get down, get down. Both of those guys, Uber talented. I'm watching Bo Nix and I go,

I see a lot of talent. I see an offensive coordinator, who's the head coach, who's all in. They got some wide receivers. I got an offensive coordinator who schemed a lot of the best offenses in the history of the league.

He's 14 to 1. 14 to 1 to win the offensive rookie the year. From a value standpoint, I don't even think it's debatable. If you're going to bet him, you got to drizzle money on that guy. I don't, it's a half time now when I'm recording this. The moment he played his first preseason game,

he was going to be the week one starter. After this, and I understand, this isn't about like, he's playing backups, just watch the guy play. The movements, the accuracy, the ability to get rid of the ball. Same with Caleb, same with Jaden. It's not about who you're playing.

It's the attributes. Then it's on the coaches. Sean Payton's making $18 million a year. You know, all the Bears coaches, Making a lot. Quarterback coach making 900 Gs. Offends a coordinator probably making two and a half. Obviously, Dan Quinn's making 10 million.

Cliffs probably making three or four. You got to coach these guys up. So it's on the coaches who get paid premiums to figure it out. But the talent on those three individuals, eye-popping. And if you would have told me that when the preseason started, I would have thought, obviously Caleb has the best physical characteristics in terms of arm and throwing on the run. Jaden, athleticism, I would put Bo Nix right there too, movement-wise, arm strength. Like, I would have assumed Bo Nix arm looked a lot on a different level than those two guys,

and I don't see a huge gap. When you say, does Bo Nix have a good arm? My first reaction is, yes, he does. So if I'm a Denver Bronco fan, we got rid of the anchor that is Russell Wilson, and I would say the drama that comes behind that, because let's face it, there's a lot. And as I told Colin, I think what's going to be the undoing of the Steelers

is the drama in that quarterback room because those guys are so famous. There was like this famous aura with Russell Wilson that you just couldn't shake. And for most of his career, it was always someone else's fault. Every offensive coordinator Russell Wilson has ever had before Sean Payton got fired.

Every single one. All of them, Seattle. All of them fired. Nathaniel Hackett, year one, fire. You can bring up names here. This guy's not good enough. Whatever. In my life watching football. Hall of Fame, in their prime, sweet quarterbacks, you know what happens to their assistant coaches? They become head coaches. Look at Rogers. Look at Big Ben. Obviously, Tom, Peyton Manning. like their guys move up the ladder.

Russell's went the other way. They always got the finger pointed at them. It was their fault. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe Sean Payton was right. And listen, everyone that talked a bunch of shit last year when Sean Payton went to him like,

hey, you want to stick around here? Change your guarantees. 90% of the media freaked out. I was like, what? What are we talking about? He's asking, do you want to change it or not? If not, we're going to bench you and move on. We're not afraid to cut you because our owner's worth $50 billion.

We don't give a shit. Here are your options. Welcome to real life. At one point in time, in all of our lives, we're presented with a couple options professionally. Pick one or the other. And listen, you live with it. And he said, no. Okay.

See you. Don't let the door hit you. It feels like they are going to have such a more symbiotic and, like, more normal relationship. Because one thing New Orleans always had, now Drew Breeze, Hall of Famer,

but he's like one of the most normal high character guys in the league. Everyone loved him. Got along with everyone. I forget the offensive lineman. He did play by play. I think it was a center

for the Saints for a little bit. God, I forget his name. And he retired like six, seven, maybe eight years ago now. and he started crying in his retirement speech, talking about Drew Brees. So Sean Payton went from that to Russell.

And I defended Russell, like the own office and all that, didn't bother me. It's people, you can't get along. Teammates don't think you're normal. Part of being a quarterback is being able to be relatable. Even though, you know, Patrick Mahomes, he's making $90 million a year on and off the field. yet it always feels like

all of his teammates like him. I saw on YouTube. Tom Brady, I think, started a YouTube page. And it's, you know, Tom, I don't know if he's being truly authentic. It's not about the content. It was just cool, like flying private jets

on these sweet yachts in who knows where. It's just like kind of an insight of Tom's life. It's like, God, this guy's living good in the back of like sweet limos that are Rolls Royces. Like, this guy's living like a, you know, he's like,

one of the kings or princes somewhere. You know, it's, it was cool insight. He has been so rich now for so long, yet everybody, till his last day in Tampa was like, couldn't be any cooler. Couldn't be any more normal. It's why I like,

I defend Caleb Williams in terms of the way his teammates talk about him. Didn't like the painted nail saying, fuck you, Utah. Like, that's, that's sloppy behavior. But usually with that, You're like, do the teammates think he's kind of a weirdo? It's like you watch the hard knocks.

Seems like everyone likes them. If everyone likes you, give yourself a shot. Brock Purdy, pretty polarizing player. You know who loves them? I'll tell you. Fred Warner, Trent Williams, Debo Samuel, George Kittle. It kind of matters.

You know why Trey Lance got Wally Pipped in the blink of an eye? Teammates didn't believe in them. And they liked the guy. So when they don't like you and then they don't believe in you, I think Pittsburgh's got a major problem on their hands. And I think Denver, it just kind of got, kind of got out of a bad breakup, dating someone new. It's like, God, life's pretty easy. I don't have to force things.

Just like conversation goes, go out to dinner, not screaming at each other. It's like, this is smooth. This is easy. We've all experienced that in one relationship to another relationship. Like, this is way easier than that used to be. It's like, yeah, because that was a toxic relationship. That's not healthy. That's not normal.

That's not conducive to success. And Bo Neck-Champet is going to work. Got news for you. Yeah, I don't even know who's debating that. And I'm not saying they're going to make the playoffs this year, though, not the craziest thing. Because you go around the league, you get like, there's some weird quarterback situations. Rogers is 40. What if he can't really move this year?

Deshawn Watson makes like $800 million. What if he kind of sucks? Joe Burrow, what if he can't stay healthy? You know where I stood on the Chargers bet, which I did love three weeks ago, don't love it as much anymore. You know why? Their entire team always gets injured.

And they're pretty dependent on a couple guys on defense that are always hurt. Khalil Mack and Joey Bosa, who's literally hurt right now. And their quarterback just been in a boot. So part of like good vibes, you know, it's an overused term on the internet. Like, just vibes.

Positive vibes do matter. That doesn't mean you don't have to work hard. That doesn't mean there are certain things no matter what you're doing, the boxes you don't have to check. But, like, being optimistic and being excited is pretty healthy.

Look at the Chiefs. You know what they've had a lot of? Just good vibes. Winning brings that for sure. It's hard to have good vibes when you're losing. You don't meet many, like, broke people that are smiling all the time. Like, I get it.

I'm not acting. like they can go six and ten or six and eleven they're going to be a bunch of good vibes. But you remove Russell Wilson that was just a giant pain in their ass, not debatable, to Bo Nix, who's just like this young, hungry guy, who's pretty talented. And if all things were equal, same amount of money. I could have this guy for a million or this guy for a million. In 2024, is there one general manager that today, including the Steelers, that would take Russell Wilson over Bo Nix?

having even seen the guy play a real NFL game. Got news for you. There isn't. The Steelers would trade Russell Wilson for Bo Nix yesterday. So sometimes things just work out. They took a lot of shit for that too. Everyone's like, oh, they're going to take Bo Nicks. That's going to be crazy. Take Bo Nicks.

It's like, I told Colin this, Katie Pickett. The Steelers drafted 20th overall. He's not very talented. Mack Jones, not very talented. Historically, guys like Bo Nicks don't go where he went, but then you watch him play and you go well he's actually pretty talented

like he has physical skills the movement the size the arm strength like he has first round characteristics the mac Jones the Kenny Pickett's I just use those two guys' examples because one guy went 15 and one guy went 20 and they don't check any of the first round characteristics

like listen obviously he shouldn't have gone as far as he did in the draft board but like Brock Purdy doesn't have that many tangible first round characteristics. Some of his stuff's intangible. Read a defense. Get rid of the ball fast. Those guys typically go in the later rounds.

Doesn't mean you can't strike oil with them. Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott, Brock Purdy. Not every guy needs to go in the first round. But when you do draft a first round quarterback, you better fucking be right. Because you're wrong. The 49ers got very, very lucky with the Trailland situation.

that they drafted Brock Purdy with the last pick in the draft, he became a good player. Because I'm watching the Raiders Cowboys, which, not going to lie, tough watch. The Raiders have a question of quarterback, clearly. I mean, both the guys seem pretty average to me. But Trey Lance failed in the NFL, and he's currently failing in the NFL.

Not because he doesn't try. Not because guys don't like him. He just doesn't have the capability to, like, throw changeups. Everything's really fast. He can't slow himself down. Anyone who's ever played golf, it's easy on the driving range to be like, slow it down, nice and smooth.

And then you get on the course, all of a sudden muscle memory starts kicking in. And you can't help it. You're spraying it right and left. You're like, what the hell's going on? Because you're a little more amped up. It's no different than playing quarterback. You got to slow it down.

And you watch Trey Lance, everything's quick, everything so fast. Fields is like the better version of him. It's like, take a deep breath, man. Just relax a little bit. And they can't. It's not because they're not trying. They're not attentive in meetings, good guys.

Like, it's such a hard position to play. Obviously, if you don't try, none of the effort, you've got no chance. But when you struggle to do a couple things in the NFL, accurately hit basic routes where you can't throw a fastball and stay in the pocket, like that's kind of Russell Wilson's undoing of his career can't play from the pocket doesn't want to does not want to constantly scrambles around

earlier in his career when he was a great athlete thrived at that because he had these great physical skills those don't exist anymore at 35 like they did at 26 years old Caleb actually is Russell Wilson in his prime in Seattle right now that's the way he plays if something's not

right away, he kind of moves around, scrambles around, and makes great plays. And defenders have a hard time catching him because he's like 21, 22 years old. In the prime of his just movement skills, and obviously he has a huge arm. But part of why Russell Wilson, in the prime of his career, couldn't quite be on the level of the Brady man, couldn't dominate within the pocket consistently. And to me, Caleb Williams is a good example. For him to become a superstar, like Patrick Mahomes, well, Patrick Mahomes can dominate. from within the pocket and he did early in his career.

And I'm not putting that pressure. If Caleb Williams just plays like he's playing right now, that could get the Bears 9-10 wins. It's going to be a lot of ad-libbing, a lot of wow plays. But for him to consistently be what he has the capability of being with his physical attributes, he's going to have to balance that with playing in the pocket. And on 3rd and 9, I can't scramble around.

If something's there, I've got to sit in that extra second and throw that dart and hit the guy on for 9. yards on third and eight. And that to me is on the coaches to get it out of him. And like I said, with fields, and sometimes certain guys may, he may never have that capability. If he just becomes Russell Wilson, become a Hallfamer. The prime version, not this version. That's what's so fascinating about quarterback play.

Now, I think the one thing that's on display every single game you watch, even with the backups, movement skills is a big deal. The day and age of just Eli Manning, Philip Rivers, the dream. Drew Bledsoes, all the quarterbacks I grew up on besides like Steve Young and like Michael Vic, the statue in the pocket, that guy's kind of dead. I mean, there aren't even that many left in the NFL. Jared Goff, obviously, I would say Matt Stafford at this age. I think Rogers is going to be that this year.

But most of these guys, when you go through the top quarterbacks, Mahomes can move. Josh Allen can move. Burrow, when healthy, is, I'm not comparing the Lamar Jackson movement-wise, but like Montana can move around, no problem. Obviously, Lamar, Kyler, Jalen Hertz, Purdy can move, Dack can move. Cousins is somewhat of a dinosaur that way. Can only play within the pocket.

But if you dominate within the pocket, you can succeed. Look at Drew Brees' career. He wasn't even very tall. So it's just my favorite subject to talk about. Well, two, coaches and quarterbacks. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged.

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I might have to hit him up with the text, get him back on before the season or maybe during the season. And Tom Brady doing their kind of warm-up games, there are going to be a lot of people just, usually with broadcast crews, no one cares. Like, it just does not matter. You could just put anyone on. We learn with Monday Night Football, that's not true. I need a little pizzass, right? That's why John Madden, John Gruden, like I need a little start power.

ESPN fucked it up for a minute, and then they got Troy Aikman, Joe Buck. It feels normal again. But most games on Sunday, like the game handles the broadcast. I know all my buddies constantly bash most of the broadcasters. The Brady-Berkart thing, but specifically, Tom,

I mean, we've seen Kevin, called a Super Bowl last year, a couple years ago, I think. Maybe they got it this year. is that I don't know how it's going to go because you watch the YouTube thing of Tom

in Paris with his kids kind of loose but is that the guy that Bill and Gronk and Julian get? No chance. I'm very fascinated on how he's going to balance it

because when Tom's being a guy no human has ever met Tom that doesn't like him. He feels like the most relatable famous rich guy like the history of America. Most of my favorite athletes or biggest athletes in my life,

least relatable humans alive. Michael Jordan, not at all. Tiger Woods, no chance. Barry Bonds. People can stand them. Right? I mean, these guys struggle, which kind of makes sense.

How do they have anything in common with anybody? You guys don't even go to the store. They don't even fill up their own gas. It's hard to relate to just even successful people when you're just living in a completely different world. Yet Tom could balance that with his coaches, with his assistant coaches, with his teammates, with the equipment guy,

he was great at it. And if you get that guy, it's impossible to not be a good broadcaster. Because his fame, he obviously is well-spoken, but that relatability. It's what made John Madden a rock star. Even John Gruden had this kind of entertainment aspect to him.

You know, and I don't know. I'm fascinated. I'm a Tom Brady guy. I'm glad he did it. I think we're all better. off for him attempting this. And it showed the clip that I saw tonight on the Fox broadcast. He wasn't actually on the air.

They were just doing their... He's laughing and joking. If he's loose, man, he could be really, really good. And I know this. That week one, Cleveland Dallas game would get a lot of people watching no matter what. I bet they get a 20% bump. I bet it's the highest rated week one afternoon. game in the history of the league

because the intrigue of like we're just going to hang out with Tom for three hours it's what makes the mannings like just work it's like wait I just get to hang out with Peyton and Eli you're just telling me Peyton and Eli hanging out and I just get to watch the game with them even though the actual game is going on another channel

that's why they get a couple million people just to watch that broadcast it's like yeah just come hang out with Peyton and Eli bullshit about the game and if Tom and those guys are just kind of loose and having a good time. Now their job's a little different, right? They're not calling every individual play.

So it's not the same thing. But if he can kind of strike that balance of like just being a guy's guy and then given his knowledge and given his relatability, which is a skill that is obviously unique to him given his stature, I think it's going to be a major success. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

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From 1979, that was a big moment for me. 84 was big to me. I'm Sam Jay. And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a year, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild year.

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