The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 Rounds w/ Daniel Cormier- Does UFC Champ Leon Edwards have an edge over Kamaru Usman in a potential trilogy?

Episode Date: January 15, 2023

UFC fighter Gilbert Burns gives the champion, Leon Edwards, the advantage over Kamaru Usman in a potential trilogy. Also, don't miss why Daniel Cormier thinks the champ Aljamain Sterling could lose his belt if he's not "110 percent" healthy before taking a fight with Henry Cejudo. Plus, DC fires back at Din Thomas after he called him out earlier this week! #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up, guys? Welcome back to Three Rounds of Daniel Cormier. Hey, the new year started. And the fights are back, baby. Look, guys, I love time away from the fight game. I love the holidays. But I'm ready to watch some dudes. Get inside of an octagon.

throw some hands, somebody wins, somebody loses. I'm glad the fights are back. I can't wait till this weekend, but my fight starts right now. So let's go. I'm a show you. I'm experienced man. Round one. Will Al Jermaine Sterling actually fight Henry Suhudo?

This week, Al Jermaine Sterling came out on his YouTube channel saying that a fight before March isn't realistic. because he has a torn bicep. Now, he's had this torn bicep for the last two training camps is what he said. When you're the champion, everybody's listening to everything that you're going to say, Aljo has his own platform, Aljo has his ability to control the narrative of what he has going on in his life, going on in his career going on in the fight game. When he said that March wasn't realistic,

this isn't nothing new. If you guys recall, after he beat T.J. Dillishaw, Aljo said he'd be gone for a while. And me and Ryan were talking on my show on ESPN, and I said, if the UFC's saying around March, I'm thinking Aljo's going to fight around March next thing. You know, bam, people feel like Aljo's fighting Henry in March. Unfortunately, he's probably going to take a stand now. because if for two training camps he's had a torn bicep, hey, he beat Peoriae with that torn bicep,

avenging what was a catastrophic fight, the way that he was able to become the champion, but the domination that he was getting put on him leading up to the disqualification that ultimately got him to the belt and started what was for Aljo, a horrible, horrible start to a championship reign. He may not admit this openly and publicly,

but I can tell you, Al Jermaine Sterling didn't like the way it felt when people were attacking him and the way that people were calling him not the champion and everything. Look, I started calling him champ because to me he had the belt. I won the belt when the guy got disqualified from the competition. I was the champion. I wanted to be called the champion. Aljo went so far as to tell me, hey, call me Aljo. He didn't want to be called champ.

and I don't know if maybe that's something he wants to be called by his name or if this is something that had to do with him not feeling as if he had earned that championship in the way that he wanted to. We were in New York City. I called him champ again. He kind of looked at me and smiled but didn't go so far as to say, hey, don't call me champ. You know what I'm saying?

So now he's kind of falling into that group. why wouldn't he? I mean, dude's dominating. And he was dominating T.J. Dillishaw, and I'm telling you guys right now, even if T.J. Dillishaw wasn't injured, Al Jermaine Sterling was going to beat him. But he doesn't feel like he can go right now. And honestly, to go right now against a guy like Henry Sehudo, when you're not ready, that is not good. Because Sehudo is so thorough in his preparation that even though you might feel like he can be a joke at times, he can be cringe at times. This dude is a winner of the highest caliber,

and he will put himself in a situation or a position where he's ready to dethrone Al Jermaine Sterling. And I feel like Al Jermaine Sterling needs to be 110% if he's going to fight the former double champion, Henry Sehudo. Obviously, other people start chiming in. Sean O'Malley chimed in. Said that if Aljo Comane, he called him Aljo Comane, which is pretty funny and clever.

I'll be honest, I'll give it to you. It's weird how they've turned Al Jermaine's name into all these other things. Suhudo calls him Al Jalame, Al Jalane. This guy calls him Al Jolmaine. Like, they're kind of messing with that man's name. I'd much rather be called champion. Chito Verra said we don't have a champ.

O'Malley said he'd fight Sehudo if Aljo's unavailable. I'm in on that one. Don't do an interim, no. Don't do an interim title. Al Jermaine Sterles is a champion. champion. He deserves time because he's been active and he's fought everyone. Whoever they put in front of him, he fights. And honestly, he needs to be the one to fight Suhudo because it takes away all the question from the disqualification against Peoto Yan to beating the guy in T.J. Dillishah

who left as the champion once he got suspended to beating another guy in Henry Sehudo who was the champion whenever he walked away from the game. It's all out there for Al Jermaine Sterling, but it's sounds like the champ is taking a stand with the torn bicep, so I don't think we'll see him in the octagon anytime soon as we get to the last 10 seconds around one. He's a real champ now. You can't doubt the funkmaster. And if you're not prepared, this dude will drag into deep waters.

I cannot wait to see him back in the octagon. Be 100% healthy, though, if you got to fight here with Shihudo. I'm going to show you. Get a gel. I'm experienced. All right. to now it's time for me to get back some get back and i invited him on the show he didn't want to come though he ran he ran but i look on the internet and this dude over here talking he talking

he called he said i'm out of my damn mind he said i'm this i'm this i'm this he coming straight at the boy he coming at me i'm talking about the one and only handsome dean thomas i see dean thomas sitting back, he relaxing as he's talking. DC out of his damn mind if he thinks that Alexander Volcanowski beating Islamahachov isn't upset. Guys, when I said this, I was very

thorough in my explanation that as the number one pound fighter in the world, it's hard to think you winning a fight is an upset. But I believe that the other guy is

pound for pound number one that's why i said it and you're the smaller guy going up in division to take on a guy that has been so dominant dean thomas is talking though he says he believes and totally disagrees with it being one of the biggest ufc upsets over Islam guys the matchup is very fun that's why it's made and the matchups very competitive or should be competitive due to the skill level of Alexander Volcanowski. He is as skilled as they come. And you can see it. It is on the forefront of the camps.

Even the Mahathev camp, they're very aware of how tough this challenge is. Nobody's looking past it. This is me separating myself from the friendship and everything else. Looking at just the X's and the O's, and I think to myself, wow, very difficult for Alexander Volcanowski, but guess what? When I had the opportunity to go to heavyweight to fight steep,

very big undertaking. Suhudo going up, down, sorry, very big undertaking. Any person that's chased something great understands the risk, they understand the reward and they understand the challenges in front of them. Nobody's over here sitting, saying that I don't believe that, Alexander has a chance. I do believe he has a chance. I believe that Alexander Volcanovsky is as good as anyone in the world on any given night.

I just think that in the matchup, there's a problem. But for Dean Thomas to go up there and talk about this, this, and the other. Hey, Dean, all you got to do is answer the Zoom call, bro. I've called this man, Dean Thomas, 10 times on Zoom. trying to get him to come here and debate me about this topic or any other topic. Dean Thomas, I'm here, baby. Usually, Dean and I are pretty cool to win show.

We gang up on Laura. You know, like we stick together. It's very weird that Dean coming for the king. You're coming for the king, Dean. Guys, maybe it isn't the biggest upset in UFC history. Maybe that was a bit of a hyperbole. It might have been a bit of a stretch. Okay, it might have been a bit of a stretch.

but can you really look at that and think that the smaller guy going up, beating the bigger guy is not an upset? The bigger guy is supposed to win because even though I won, it was an upset, right? I was the underdog, as well Alexander the grade. But when Alexander Volcanowski walks to that octagon on that night, he will have the utmost belief that he is going to get the job done. No doubt in his mind, but it's going to be extremely difficult.

But he knows that. It's the only reason he's doing that. These fighters are wired differently. They see things differently. They live differently. Nothing is normal with these guys outside of family. Everything else is extreme. So when you see a hill that you want to climb,

the fighter sees that hill and goes, I'll go over that hill to get to the next one, the bigger one. That is why he is chasing down this fight with Islam Makashv. He could just say at 145 right now, and I don't see anyone that can challenge him in this moment, especially after the fight against Max Holloway, who I believe is still the second best featherweight in the world. he wants bigger

he wants greater and if he gets greater I stand by my word Dean Thomas he wanted a bigger upsets than UFC history but all you got to do my friend answer to Zoom call Dean let's do this baby

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Gilbert Burns has gone on record and gives the edge to Leon Edwards in the Usman trilogy. That's not a very familiar take. He went on record saying, I give a little more edge to Leon just because of the way that he won. He told that to our good friends at MMA junkie radio. And being at home with no elevation, not like insult. Lake City with that elevation, I give him a little bit more of an edge. It's a very close fight, but I give the edge to Leon Edwards. We're talking about the champion. Leon Edwards is the champ, but not many people are picking this dude to beat Camaro Usman. Now, Derino gave some great points. DeRino made some statements that I, myself, hadn't even thought about a little bit. Was the

elevation to play a part in the way that Leon Edwards won the fight? Or was it a hindrance to the champion? Because it seemed as though Edwards slowed down in the middle of the fight. Remember how quickly he started in that round one? Took Usman down, controlled Usman on the ground and won that round pretty convincingly. But then Kamarro started to do what Kamara Usman does. And that's just work you over, whether it be with the wrestling, whether it be with the fight with the striking, whether it's his cardio and conditioning, he usually just kind of breaks these guys down. But there is no elevation in England, in London. It ain't like Salt Lake. I've seen elevation take some of the biggest men in the world and turn them into normals. The immortal, they've turned

them into mortals. I saw Kane Velasquez run out of gas in Mexico City. I thought I would never in my life see anything like it. But the elevation makes cowards of us all. I saw. to go to the Olympic training center. And for the first week, I would feel like I was carrying another man on my back. So yeah, that plays a factor. But did that play a factor in Kamarro Usman slowing down because he didn't seem to slow down?

So why does Gilbert put emphasis on it? If there was one point that he made that may benefit him, it's that he's at home. Being in London, being the fan favorite, being the guy that everybody show up to see, and carrying that confidence of being the champion. Leon always hasn't lost for a very long time. Last person to beat him is Camaro Usman.

But then after the fight, the second fight, you see that guy laying on his back in the middle of the octagon. How much confidence does that give Leon Rocky Edwards? How good does he feel then heading into his first title defense? Huh. I get it, Doreno, but a favorite? A favorite? The odds will still put Kamarra Usman as the guy

that's supposed to walk out of the Octagon as the champion. And if you watch, they're 24 minutes and 30, 24 minutes and 20 seconds at a fight, you feel like Usom was the better fighter. But they say you fight the entire time. And Rocky Edwards showed that as long as there's time on the clock, you can get the job done. And the confidence that comes with that cannot be

understated. Can't be understated. Top boy. That's what they say Leon Edwards looks like. Top boy is some shit like that. A T.S. show off Netflix. Watch it. Leon Edwards is the man. He always has been, though. He's always been an extremely talented mixed martial artist that should have gotten a chance against anyone in the world. But he's been overlooked forever. Gilbert Burns said, I don't know what the end of 2023 looks like in my wake

class doesn't know what happens with Hamzat but feels like he's right there with Belaw Muhammad doesn't have any idea what happens with Kobe Covington he doesn't know who'll be the champion can't control that all he can control though is he wants to be in the mix he wants to be ready he has to take care of Neil Magni though take care of Neil Magny and then he'll fight whoever whenever this is the guy that stepped up to fight Hamzat when nobody wanted a part of it. So when Gilbert Burns talks, I listen, because I respect that dude. But to say a favorite, after watching that fight, I don't know if maybe this is his inexperience at this talking for him. But hey, maybe Doreno looks like a genius after the March paper view. I guess we'll

see. And now for my final thought, the PFL and Bellator doing tournaments. I love it. I absolutely love it. I love how they are turning these young fighters, these guys, men and women, who may have flamed out of the UFC into millionaires. I love that for them. I love that opportunity and that ability to go and make life-changing money away from the UFC. Got some big fights coming, too. We get to see Usman Nareemegov take on Benson Henderson. Right away, we find out how real this kid is. I believe he's real. but yes, I'm all for the tournaments. I'm all for making millionaires.

So hats off to the PFL and Bellator. You guys are doing a great job. Keep blessing these young athletes with life-changing money. It's exciting. Until next time, guys, like, subscribe, tell you friend, to tell a friend DC has a YouTube channel. Check out my three rounds.

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Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced. games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth.

Listen to Superhuman on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me. Clivert Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Clifford Show.

This is a place for raw, unfills of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to The Clifford Show on the IHeard Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok. This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed human.