The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 Rounds w/ Daniel Cormier - UFC Champion Jamahal Hill fought Glover Teixeira "like he'd been there 10 times before"

Episode Date: January 28, 2023

Daniel Cormier thinks there may not be anyone in the light heavyweight division that can take Jamahal Hill's title away, and why DC's "all in" on a fight between him Jiri Prochazka. Plus, Cormier lets us know what's next for middleweight champion Alex Pereira. And don't miss a final round with lots of takes, including a controversial decision at UFC 283 and Anthony Smith missing weight. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What's up, guys, and welcome back to three rounds. I'm back from UFC 283, and Rio de Janeiro was beautiful. Guys, I went outside one time. In the sights, oh my God, the sights in this beautiful place. was unreal, even though D.C. really don't travel outside very often. One of my favorite sites was that we got a new light heavyweight champion.

He was crowned last weekend. And that's something I'll get into a little bit later. Honestly, both of the new champs from last week already seem to have what's next set up. But if you remember the old stories, the soap opera, it's as the world turns, right? Let's get to the fight. I'm experienced. Round one. The middleweight champion Alex Paneda, he's got his immediate plans mapped out.

And although he may not have been able to tell with the way that he was glaring at Jamal Hill last weekend, he has a sight set on 185 pounds. Now, Alex Baheda has the frame of a 205 ponder, a big 205 pounder. But first, and before he can do any of that Jamal Hill revenge, he's got to deal with his his weight class, right? He's got to deal with middleweight. But bro, standing in that octagon with him the other day after Glover de Shera was in there retiring, the way he was glaring at the champion was crazy. He was piercing through Jamal Hill standing there as like just stow it like big old dude. But before he can do that, before he can start trying to chase down

champ champ status, he spoke about his division stating, quote, it'll be one of two. guys. I see the two guys Edassania or Robert Whitaker. Edassania was a dominant champion, so he has the preference to be competing for the belt again. But if he doesn't want that, it'll be Whitaker. I don't think that they'll put someone else in there other than Whitaker. He already said

that his game does not match well with Edassania, but he believes that he would be a really good fight for me. So I'll be ready for both. He said, I won't do anything to hurt Edassania's plans and avoid the fight if that's what he wants to do we'll fight and if for some reason he doesn't want to fight me that makes no difference to me it'll be roba whittaker instead and if Whitaker doesn't want it there are several other people that do want to fight him now elect mahera is alluding to the Hamzaa chayevs of the world and all the other guys that state

and say they want to fight against him but when you talk to that guy he is not afraid of anyone. He is willing to fight anyone. And as he said, the Robert Whitaker fights stylistically may not seem to match up. It may not seem ideal for him because of Whitaker's ability to secure takedowns if need be, especially when we saw Ed Asana have an ability to not only take him down, but hold him down and keep him down. But he ain't shying away from it. He's saying that if that's the fight, I'm ready for that fight. Now, when you see Izzy hold him down for as long as he did, you start to question whether or not he could handle the wrestler. But don't forget, guys, he got taken down based on one of his mistakes. It wasn't Edisonia shooting on him,

taking him down. And I'm a guy that when I see Alex Baheda, I wrestle Alex Maheda. And there are multiple clips of it. Everywhere I run into the guy, I try to single leg him. And when I grab his leg, dude is strong. He goes right to my wrist with his hands and he starts to try to defend the right way. Now am I saying that I couldn't take him down? No, I'm not saying that. But I'm saying that as a big guy now me heavy overweight, not anywhere near when with this guy weighs, when I grab him, he does feel pretty strong. And he does seem to have an understanding of how to defend takedowns. but I do believe that. That comes when the takedown is thrown at him.

I think where he may struggle is with all the in-between wrestling, when you're scrambling, when you're in there and you're kind of getting a takedown, but then you're defended, and then you've got to get to the next level of the takedown. I think that is where Alex Bahadam may struggle, but I'm telling you, from grabbing him, just grabbing him with my hands.

He has an understanding of how to defend. himself when guys are trying to take him down. And that may spell disaster for the guys at middleweight because if he can't take this dude down, we have seen him outstrike the best striker in the UFC middleweight division that we'd seen since Anderson Silva. So it's not an easy thing to beat this guy. But it's crazy, right? Because Payton has got options.

He's got so many prospects for championships. This is a guy that many thought. was a weak champ. That's why Hamzat Chamaiova was right away saying, I want to fight him at 185. But now he's got Jamal Hill speaking his name at 205. He's got Israel at Asana and Robert Whitaker on the docket at 185. He's got options.

And I don't think I would tune out for any of them. Every guy that this man speaks about, I would tune in to watch him fight. Right now must be a great time to be elects, a hater, that Brazilian powerhouse, that guy that seems to strike fear and most, but excite many. But did you see how he looked at Jamal Hill? Those eyes would strike fear in most. One guy that's not afraid, though, is Hill.

That would be an unbelievable fight also. Round two. Jamal Hill is a man now. Jamalio became the light heavyweight champion last weekend in Brazil as you all know And I believe that the thing that stood out most to me Was his ability to deal with Glover to share wherever the fight went His ability to overcome even when things went a little sideways with him That wasn't an easy fight for Jamal Hill because he got a glover to share that

One thought that he was a better matchup for him than Magelman and Kaliath. He thought that it was a striker in front of him that if he took him down and if he was relentless, he was able to wear him down. Not only because of the style matchup, but because of the inexperience of Jamal Hill. But what did Jamal Hill do at every moment?

Even though Glover was relentless, Jamal matched it, every turn. And not only did he win, Dude put a beating on the former champion. And I kind of thought that he had a chance to win the fight. But I spent time with Jamal last weekend. I never have seen a guy that's more calm in the face of something so daunting,

on the verge of something so massive. For the first time, I'd never seen someone so. so calm. I speak back to 2015 when I was about to fight John Jones. New Year's Eve, I was in my hotel room at the MGM Grand. Going to bed, cutting my weight, wake up at midnight to kiss my wife and my children and go right back to sleep. I wake up the next morning at 1201.

John Jones was at Hockasson. He was ringing in the New Year. But this was him eight UFC, title fights in. We're talking about a kid in Jamal Hill who got in on the contendous series, who worked his way up and had fought in main events, but had never been on the stage that he was on going into the fight last weekend. And he handled it like an absolute pro.

He handled like he had been there 10 times before. But even in performing at that level, he needed a dance partner and said, because of Glover-Teshire's durability and how impressed he was by it, he was able to put on that type of performance. Dude said that he could not believe that Glover-Teshire would stood the onslaught.

Guys, Glover-Teshire got hit with 232 significant strikes. We all love Glover. And we've all cheered for him. But make no mistake about it, from Pill and Post, this was a beating. This was Jamal Hill outclassing Glover-Teshire. And I've got friends around the world that talk to me and they go, man,

Jamal Hill looks like he can fight like any dude off the streets. He kind of leans back when he throws. He's throwing from odd angles. But we talked about this. Jamal Hill was not just throwing. He knows what he's doing. He's setting up these shots to get to these positions where he's hitting Glover to Sherer. And we were all like tremendously impressed.

All impressed. Sat there at the table at the end of the fight, and I said, wow, it'll be very hard for somebody to beat this kid. Well, one guy right away goes, I'm here. And it was Yuri Prohachka. He had things to say about the new champion right away, even saying that he ain't going to be as long out as we thought initially.

He won't be aware as long. He said that he's got his eyes set on summer to fight the new champ and that he's progressing much quicker than he thought. He thought he was going to be out for 18 months, said that he's going to be a lot sooner. Both of these guys made crazy Instagram videos. Yuri said, I'm here. Jamal said, but where are you at, though?

Two young and hungry, extremely talented strikers, I'm all in. I'm all in. But that leads me to this question. How does the former champion get the belt back? because I'm telling you, spending that time with Jamal Hill in Brazil, his calmness, his ability to deal in the face of adversity, his ability to understand and recognize that he's on the cusp of something great

and not let it hinder him as we get to 10 seconds. It's like nothing I've ever seen before in person. And I don't know if I'd favor any light, heavy weight in the world, to beat this guy right now. but your prohask is ready to try I'm experienced it's time for round three let's call this one my round three round up

because I've got a few topics I want to touch on that if we don't do them now I don't have time to get them all in first you guys know that last week the big news was Francis and Gano leaving the UFC a lot of people were excited for Francis and his prospects

outside the oxygen and many thought that they would lead to him fighting Tyson Fury, who has a fight against Yusick coming up first for the heavyweight, undisputed heavyweight championship in the world. Francis is living life and Fury was the one that said, hey, Francis, I heard you recently got released. I got an opportunity. But then he has the most odd opportunity I think I've ever heard.

He wants to fight Francis. inside a cage, four ounce gloves. So it looks like MMA. But he wants boxing rules. Why? Why?

You're the king. You're the king. Tyson? Francis Ngano left the UFC and is pursuing boxing because he recognizes that the biggest money fight out there is Tyson Fury.

So, Why in a cage? Why boxing rules? It literally just doesn't make much sense to me. I would love to hear him elaborate on why that is the course that he has taken. Like why? It just doesn't make much sense. Why give Francis and Ghanu, who literally has a punch his chance,

only more of a puncher's chance? Because heavy weights wear 10-ounce gloves. You put Francis in four-ounce gloves. We have seen what he can do to people. help us out Tyson why Anthony Smith waiting as a backup fighter last week and missed the weight I'm surprised that doesn't happen more often

because while guys are getting their show money to go out there as a backup fighter still very difficult to make that weight especially knowing that it most likely won't happen you most likely won't get an opportunity to fight. So I think that

it probably should happen more. Pantosia did too last week, and he made the weight. But again, he didn't get anything but money to do that. This whole backup fighter thing, this is something that's happened more recent. I understand why the UFC does it, but I'm surprised it doesn't happen more where the guys don't make the weight.

Brandon Moreno dominated Davis and Figaro last week, and it was not a competition. He's the better fighter. Davis is going up to 135. Brandon said that inside the octagon, they spoke a little bit, and Davis said, I apologize for the words. I'm only trying to sell the fight. I don't know what more he could have said.

Dude just outclassed him. In this series, Brandon Moreno has proven superior. But what's next is a guy that he's lost to twice in Pantosia. Pantosia is excited about the fight because I think that he's expecting the same guy. He better understand very quickly. that this is a whole new Brandon Marino. This guy is not the guy that he was before. He's a savage.

He's a dog, and he's so well coached, he's only going to get better. But hats off to the Assassad Baby because Brandon Marino was in there with a guy in Brazil that had just beaten him. And while it was close the time before and close in the fight number one, he shut the door immediately in that fort fight.

And there's no reason for us ever to see it again. I was very vocal about Lauren Murphy and the Jessica Andrash fight getting stopped. So many agreed with me. Some people said that I was a, I don't know what they call those white women that, that, uh, that, uh, that always, a Karen. Somebody told me that I was a Karen because I was saying, stop the fight because she was getting beat. Let me tell you something. I'm not a Karen.

If Matt Brown agrees with me, you guys know that Matt Brown is a savage motherfucker in his own words. He's a savage. He said even he would have stopped that fight. When Lauren Murphy could not mount any sustained offense, you do it a favor of stopping the fight. You save her from herself. So in my roundup, Tyson Fury explained us why you wanted in the cage. Anthony Schmidt, not really a big deal.

That's off to the assassin baby. And stop the fight. I'm not a carrot. I'm not a caring. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal, but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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Glover got it as good as it gets by going out there on his shield and still standing. Shogunahua got it how most of us get it. You go out on your back to the younger fighter that's on the ascent as you are on the way out. But in both instances, although the results were the same in terms of losses, but the way that the visuals played out were much different, they aren't hurting defeat.

These guys' legacies will stand the test of time, especially Shogun Huah, who we have seen go from Pride champ to UFC champ Glover becoming the champ at 42 years old. I mean, these guys are absolute savages. And congratulations to the King of Rio Jose Aaldo. Tears streamed down his face as he was announced. And it was so heartfelt to watch that guy who was so good, finally get his flowers.

There's nothing like going into the Hall of Fame. And now the UFC Hall of Fame is becoming what most sports Hall of Fame are to the athletes getting put in. But trust me, guys, there are a number of guys going into the Hall of Fame this year. You guys are going to love it. So stay tuned. Till next time, guys, like, subscribe, tell your friend, to tell a friend that DC has a YouTube channel and tap in.

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And I'm Alex English. Each episode, we pick a here, unpack what went down, and try to make sense of how we survived it. With our friends, fellow comedians, and favorite authors. Like Mark Lamont Hill on the 80s. 84 was a wild,

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