The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 Rounds with Daniel Cormier - Daniel Cormier on what Max Holloway TOLD HIM about Topuria, Dana White Rankings BEEF, Cowboy Cerrone

Episode Date: October 18, 2024

Daniel Cormier is OFFICIALLY BACK with 3 Rounds! DC gets into the hottest topics in the UFC and MMA. Cormier talks next week's MASSIVE UFC 308 main event fight between Max Holloway and Ilia Topuria, and why Ilia is trying to BAIT Holloway into a KO loss. DC reveals what Max Holloway told him about Topuria heading into the fight, and why he's unbothered by the trash talk. Plus, Cormier GOES OFF ON why Donald Cowboy Cerrone CAN'T continue to fight in the UFC. And after Dana White came to Khalil Rountree's defense and wants change in the UFC rankings, DC is here to tell you why Rountree's jump in the rankings might not be much at all. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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But, man, to hell with it. I want to do it. It's something that I've always liked to do. It's one of my favorite concepts. It's something that it seemed like you guys would happen into. I appreciate that as always. But shit, let's go back. Let's get back to three rounds.

Let's get back to the fight. I don't get the fight. So I need to be able to experience the Russia going through these topics, going through my three-fight training camp, three-topic training camps, and then bringing you guys my thoughts, my ideas, something weekly that we can do every single week, no matter what's going on. I wanted to get back to it.

And so why not? And training camp's been good. They've been working. I've been on topics from doing podcasts to doing podcasts and calling fights and doing all these things. So I've been training. I've been training. I'm ready to go. So it's time to get to the fight.

Round one. Oh, yeah. I'm experienced. Donald Cowboy Soroni says that he wants to fight again. He said on Instagram that he wants to fight two more times so that then he has 50 fights under the Zoufa banner. He told everybody that follows him. I want to go back.

I want to get two more fights. When I retired, I told you I was going to get my hair done, which he has, and I was going to get on steroids. The number 50 in ZUFA has always been sitting on my mind for a while, so I've been working with Transcend for the last two years. I've been taking TRT and a bunch of peptides. Now we have a protocol for all you people that say, oh, wait, if you get on this, you can't ever come off of it.

He goes, now I have to come off. I've got a piss clean, fight in a few months. So watch this. This is Donald Cowboy Seroni. The one thing about Cowboys has been very refreshing to watch how open he's been with all of this. He never lied.

He never lied about what he was doing, what he was going to do, and how he was going to apply it to his life. And I'm all for a guy that has personal goals. And I love Cowboy. A while back, guys, we weren't always this good. But today, we're great. We're great.

I saw Donald and he, was just so much better. But at the end of the day, for years now, he's been openly using steroids. And when I saw him, he told me I should do it because he said he's never felt better. He seemed happier. He had more energy. It seemed to me that Donald was doing great. And now I find out that outside of the movies, because remember you guys who are the movies, was doing all these things. He was really starting to build his portfolio outside of mixed martial arts. But during all that, he's been training.

And when you're training, you start to feel better. He start to feel like yourself again, especially with the help. And you go, I want to fight again. But at the end of the day, Cowboys have been doing steroids openly, openly, openly abusing steroids to make himself feel like he feels right now. The way he feels right now makes him want to fight again. Now, I like Donald now, but it doesn't matter what I feel about him as a person, as a buddy, or whatever it is our relationship is today.

I don't quite know what it is, but he's not been clean. And even if he can't come back, take tests, pass those tests, for him to get back, he had to do all those things. He had to do all those enhancers to allow for him to feel like he could compete at that level again. So he would test clean. But isn't that just a loophole? Isn't it just a loophole like the guys that when they get hurt, they get out of the testing pool,

they recover from the injury, then they reenter the testing pool? It's not wrong. It's not illegal, but is it right? Because you truly have been enhanced to get to where you are and how you feel and I mean feel good enough to come back and fight

in the elite competition and fighting, in the elite organization of UFC. That's, to me, doesn't feel right. So I was speaking to my buddy Jamil, right, he's an Olympian. I asked him, what do you feel about it? And he told me this. He goes, it's like the rule that Oregon used against Ohio State. This is a football analogy.

He goes, it's not the rule. rulebook. It's not in the rule book, but was it fair play? So, for the ones of you that don't know, there was like 30 seconds left in the game, Oregon put 12 in on the field knowing that they were going to get a penalty. But the clock

continues to run. Ohio State doesn't realize that it continues to run. 10 to 12 seconds go off because they were just standing around as if it wouldn't have happened they don't win the game. They don't won the game. They just

it around there not knowing, they would have won the game. Remember also, Cowboy lost, I mean, six fights, had won no contest and seven fights. The last time before Jim Miller, he got submitted. Imagine if he come back when he looks like a world beater. I'm against it. I'm honestly against it. I'm honestly against the idea that you could find a loophole, go and use that loophole, feel better while using that. loophole, come back and fight because you can pass a clean test. I like Donald

Cowboy Soroni. I'm against Donald Cowboy Soroni getting to compete in the UFC after openly doing what he's been doing for the last two and a half years. Let me know in the comments what you guys feel. That was a tough round one. Round two.

Ilya Tepore and Max Holloway are scheduled to square off next week in Abu Dhabi. Look, for my money, this is the best fight that we have on the UFC fight card. I'm talking about competitiveness. I'm talking about the bad blood. I'm talking about the feelings toward each other in regards to what they think they've accomplished. I think it has it all. I truly believe that this fight has it all.

Now, the champion Ilyate Tupoy was on Ariel Hwani show yesterday, and he said this, oh, wait up, before I get going. Hats off to my boy, Ariel. He launched uncrowned, something that, honestly, he's been speaking about for years. He wanted to do this thing that was his own, and now he's gotten it, and he's doing this daily show,

and it's amazing to see the success that he's gotten. Congrats, Ariel, on finally getting what you wanted for so long. But yesterday, he's speaking to Ilya to Piottoe. Ilya goes, I don't give a expletive about the belt, to be honest. He calls himself the BMF, so we already know who the world champion is. And in the first seconds of this fight at UFC 308, we're going to find out who the real BMF is because I already challenged him in the first 10 seconds of the fight to point to the ground

and we'll see what he's going to do. He goes on the state. I'll be in the middle of the octagon trying to give the fans the best start to a UFC fight in history. When you hear this as a fight fan, it gets you all jittery, and you go, okay, these dudes are about to get down, these dudes are about to get down.

But, guys, this is clearly a ploy by Ilya Teporia. It's a ploy. This is a ploy. And when you dig a little deeper into it, he's flat out challenging Max Holloway. and challenging Max Holloway in a way that you and I know as friends of Max, of fans of Max,

that he probably cannot resist the urge to go out there and just go, I'm going to smash this dude. But at the end of the day, it's a ploy by Ilya Tuporian. Because isn't Max the guy that's supposed to fight in this fight smart and maintain range?

Because it seems pretty common knowledge that if Max Holloway stands in front of Iliate Tepore, he puts himself in danger. But I'm saying, I want you to do with me what you did to Justin Gachi. He's challenging him in a way that Max Holloway may not, or at least Ili is hoping Max Holloway, isn't able to resist the urge to say, okay, I'm Hawaiian, I'm a fighter, I'm a dog, just like you're a dog, let's do it. Let's do it. it's smart by Tepore you.

So while he might seem like he's emotional because Ilya cusses a lot, Ilya gets mad, he knows what he's doing. He's the guy that knocked out Alexander Volcanozky in the last fight. When he traps you, he puts you down. He hurts people. He can hurt anybody, even Max Holloway. So by telling him, I'm doing this. I'm going to do this.

Let's see if this man is willing to, fight me like he does, everybody else, in the middle of the octagon in the first 10 seconds. Why is that important? Because in the first 10 seconds, that dude is fresh. Ilya can knock you out in the fifth round. Imagine if you can get your hands on you in the start of the first round. That's smart by Elliott Tuporian, because that's how you challenge a guy like Max Holloway, who is a BML, who loves the idea that he's the man and he's willing to this.

If Max Holloway didn't love that, he would have never started. doing this. He's been doing it for years. But isn't the thought on this fight that if Ilius to win, he's going to knock him out? Because we haven't seen nobody outwork Max Holloway over 25 minutes. We haven't. So isn't Iliu is supposed to knock him out? By challenging him in that way, you give yourself that chance. If Max Holloway stands on the quarter and says, okay, I'm with it. So I spoke to Max on Sunday And he was on his way to Abu Dhabi Getting ready for the fight

Uh He said he's not annoyed with Toporia He said, but he wants to go and get the job done The one thing I do want to tell Max Holloway, though Stop stealing my shit, man Stop stealing my stuff This dude was out there talking about I want the easiest Fight in the division. Come on, Max.

That's your boys work Guys, to me, this is by far the best fight that we have on the docket. I know there are great ones coming up. But this one is the best one for all the reasons I told you before. But who's going to play the game smarter? Is Max going to take debate? I guess we find out in like a week. All right, guys, so it's October.

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but I'm a champion. I keep fighting. I got off the stool for this round. I'm not giving up on y'all. Dana White seems to be given up on the rankings panel. He said, I just cannot handle incompetence. Talking after the contendent series last night, I can't take it anymore.

It drives me crazy. I can't let the people that I don't believe know what the equity they're doing deal with the rankings anymore. Can't do it. I have to figure out a solution. He said that today. right because last night he said that i have a meeting with a group of people who are coming to me

and saying they have a solution for the problem god i hope they are right because i'm going to change it the media will no longer control the rankings in the ufc he goes on to saying i can't do it internally i can't do it hunter can't do it shan can't do it mick can't do it he said it's unfair He said, we have biases. There are fighters I love. There are fighters I do not like. I will not put my guys in that position. I do not want to put myself in that position.

So we will outsource this, find someone to do it for us, and hopefully somebody that will do it much better than what has been done before. But he wants to get changed, and he hopes that that change is for the better. You know, Rankin's is a very funny, thing because outside of knowing that Alex Pereira is the champion because he's beating everyone, it's all subjective. One guy beats one guy, one guy beats the other guy, one guy beats the other guy.

But some of the mistakes that are made in rankings shouldn't happen at this level. Problem is to get to where we are today, you had to invite people in who we're. aren't necessarily people who cover the sport on the ground level. So it's not like you're getting all the best reporters in the MMA to rank this. That's what they do in football. But they also have other people that are involved. But it's not like you get a general sports media person or a general news reporter, sports reporter, and he ranks the UFC.

He doesn't get to rank the top 25 in college football. I don't believe. I'm not exactly sure, but I don't believe he gets as much. The coaches also rank the top 25. So they probably have it as good as anyone, and they still run into issues when talking about rankings. There is no easy way to rank anything, especially fighting.

One of the biggest issues Dana had with the rankings was Khalil Rang Street staying where he was prior to the fight with Alex Pereira. Khalil fought a good fight. A really good fight. Khalil could potentially go up a spot or two

in the rankings. Yes. But Kalil lost that fight and didn't beat anyone ahead of him. And so to play devil's advocate. I don't know the grounds at which he should have gone up much, if anything,

because Pereira's beat them all. And that's where the problem comes when you have a dominant champion. Calil did really well. We thought it was a great fight. Everybody did. We've lent compliments to Khalil Rauntree in abundance. Kalil Rauntree is still, still getting interviewed. His star rose in defeat. But at the end of the day, he still lost. So on what grounds are we really moving them up, especially when the other guys didn't really fight. I believe that when you change this, and they will, it'll lead to a different set of complaints from people.

It'll make us all feel good internally. Every one of us. It'll make us all good feel better internally. But people on the outside are still going to feel. find a reason to complain. Every title fight that I wasn't a champion, guys, I was number three ranked. Dana got mad about that. He remained the same.

But he said that now he wants to change it, and it'll change for the better because every time he does, it does. It does change. Khalil should move up, but how far? I think we've got to just get the people in position that know what they're talking about if we want those rankings to change, change for the better. Guys was tough. That was a fight.

It was a fight. It was like me fighting one of the tough ones in my career. But it's okay. We're up. We won. We got a decision. It's all good. Sometimes that's how you win.

But now for my final thought. Guys, it's okay to walk away. So we as athletes struggle to walk away from the game that has made us so uniquely us. but it's okay. I promise you. Foreign athlete, the unknown is the scariest thing in the world, especially when you're high thinking. Because when you're a high thinking individual, your mind is always focusing on something. But I promise you, it's okay. The other side is amazing.

I know we fear the adulation and the fair. and the rush that you get when you hit that curtain. But it's not that bad on the other side. Tony Ferguson is hanging on for far too long. Donald Seroni said that he wants to come back. You don't have to. You don't have to. It's not that bad on the other side.

Cowboys, Soroni's doing this because he wants to fight. Cowan Royce is doing very well in everything. I'd imagine Tony Ferguson is doing very well financial and everything in life. But he just not has, he hasn't figured out who he is outside of fighting. So it's a struggle for him.

So I saw an article yesterday that said, the UFC is going to have to show Tony Ferguson the door. Sadly, I believe this is the case. I believe that when he can let it go, when he can experience the other side, the other side is just life, he'll be just fine. So listen to a guy,

has done it. It's okay to be done. I promise you. It's not that bad. It's quite refreshing, actually. Guys, thank you again for joining me for three rounds. I promise you I will be doing this every single week, every Wednesday at 5 p.m. Eastern, 2 p.m. Pacific on my YouTube channel. We'll discuss three of the biggest topics in mixed martial arts. We'll go in depth with every single one of them. I appreciate you guys joining me on this whole YouTube journey. I love and respect each and every one of you and I will never take the time that you take to watch my stuff for granted. Until next time, like, subscribe, set a reminder so that you miss none of my videos. Until next time, tell your friends that DEC's got a YouTube channel and I'm doing stuff

like three rounds and checking in with all my friends as I will next week in Abu Dhabi. Until next time, peace. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,

help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smygle and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, this is Robert from the Stuff to Blow Your Mind podcast. Joe and I are both lifelong Star Wars fan, so we're celebrating May the 4th with a brand new week of fun, thought-provoking Star Wars-related episodes. Join us as we tackle science and culture topics from a galaxy far, far away, such as the biology of tauntons and wampas on the ice planet hot, or the practicality and corporate business sense of the Sith rule of two. Listen to Stuff to Blow Your Mind on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get to. your podcast. A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clivert Taylor the fourth. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement to my brand new podcast, The Cliford Show. This is a place for raw, unfilled of conversations with athletes, creators, and voices that not only deserve to be heard, but celebrated. So let's get to it. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more behind the scenes, follow at Clifford and at TikTok podcast network on TikTok.

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