The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 Rounds with Daniel Cormier - Daniel Cormier RESPONDS to Bo Nickal comment, Jon Jones an UNDERDOG vs. Tom Aspinall, Tyson vs. Paul

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

Bo Nickal was "disappointed" in Daniel Cormier, Joe Rogan, and Jon Anik's analysis of his fight vs. Paul Craig at UFC 309, so DC is here to RESPOND and break down all things UFC in a new edition of 3 Rounds! See why Cormier says that Nickal "misunderstood" his criticism, and why he needs more experience before becoming a UFC champion and fighting Khamzat Chimaev. And Tom Aspinall's viral video with Dana White and Hunter Campbell after the fight has been circulating, so Cormier gives his take on the status of this potential historic heavyweight fight. Plus, DC goes in on the Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul fight and gives the youngest Paul brother his flowers for the performance he had Saturday. And after sharing the ring together so many times, don't miss Cormier's thoughts on Stipe Miocic's retirement from the UFC. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm finally home. So you know what time it is. That means it's a new three rounds for you. So I'm excited. As always, guys, we have been on an absolute mission. But it feels good to be home. And it feels good to be right back to business. So if the travel was the training camp, it's time to get to the fight.

Let's go. Round one. So, Bo Nickel is a bit upset with the commentary during the fight last week. So I got to be honest. This one kind of took me a little bit by surprise because I do like Bo. And I do believe that at some point he's going to be a champion. but Bo said that he took offense to the commentary, but I think he's a little misguided.

So this is what he said. He said that when he watched a fight back, something that was a little disappointing was the commentary and just kind of hearing the way that they were looking at the fight. So to hear things like D.C. say, oh, he's not ready for Hamzat. I think he was trying to be respectful. This is Bo being Boe because he's a,

a nice kid. But I also think like maybe they were trying to set me down the peg. It was just weird to hear. But I just feel like people that I know that are in my corner and would give me honest, genuine feedback, they're very happy with the victory. I was happy with the victory. So that's what I really care about at the end of the day. But it was a little disappointing to hear some of those comments from people that I respect a lot. You know, when I read this to you guys, I think about Bo I think about talking to Bo

I think that he's a respectful guy so he's trying to say things in the nicest way that he possibly can but I think he may have misunderstood what we were trying to do right what I'm trying to say what I was more trying to say in this fight is let's not rush him

into fights with people that are much more experienced, much more battle tested, much more ready to compete at the highest level because it feels like one of those situations where a young guy who has shown so much promise gets a little bit fast-tracked. You know, we have seen this time and time again

where an athlete comes onto the scene, they do so well initially, that they get overwhelmed because you don't know what to do with them. Guys, it's a big jump from Bull's first opponent to Val Woodbine to Paul Craig. To Paul Craig. That is how good he has done in that short period of time that they have already jumped him to a guy that has beaten a world champion and has already submitted the number one contender I'd like heavyweight. It felt like one of those situations where Bo Neckle was going to get fast track and he was going to find himself over.

overwhelmed and over his head and then not be able to help it. Both started on this thing and the whole time. Because when you run side to side or parallel to another guy around your age with the same type of style with the same type of hype, it is inevitable that they will compare you. People have already started to compare him to Hamzaa Chayyah. How do they stack up? Can he wrestle him?

Can he do this? Can he do that? That's not a real thing. That's not a real thing. thing. I'm not saying he's not ready for Hamzat because I don't think he ever will be ready for Hamza. Right now he just isn't. You know what's the craziest thing? After this weekend, right after the fight, people called me and said I was a bow apologist. I was being apologetic for his performance, almost making excuses for him. That's crazy because it's odd that a fighter can

interpreted so much different than other people in the world. In the world, I thought he did really good. But I wasn't the only one that had reactions. Chale said that the gripe is that you have a four-time wrestle world champion. He doesn't wrestle at all because someone told him, one of his trainers or a partner sat him down and said, you're not ready to go to ground with this guy. Well, how would you know?

How in the F would you know if you've never tried it? is he even questioned the approach. He said it's a boring fight. That's all. He's letting it get away. Even when he hurt his opponent, he's not comfortable on the feet. He looks good striking, which I agreed with, but he's not comfortable. He doesn't know how to close.

Even if Bow would have faked a takedown that would have allowed for him to finish the fight. Guys, Bo Neckle has now seen the opposite side of fame. I wonder how he's going to handle negativity coming in this direction. I wasn't negative. I have no problem with Bo Nicol. I believe he's going to be fine. I don't have a problem with the performance. I thought he fought really well.

But there's room for improvement. Everybody said it. Let's just take our time. We don't need to rush him. That's all I'm saying. That was a tough round. Bo Nicol came out swinging, but it's okay. Guys, round two, this whole time asked for all John Jones thing

for lack of a better word, it's just weird. For me, it's just weird. Like, I don't get it. I don't understand it. I don't know why this is happening. Am I living in an alternate universe? We are talking about John Jones.

So after this weekend, he defeated Steve Amy Ochitch, as you would expect. He is the bell of the ball. But as you would also expect, the moment the fight was over, all people wanted to talk about, was Tom Aspinall

because that's all they talked about leading up to the fight. Joe rolled his steps into that octagon. He started speaking to John Jones. It sounded like Jones may be open to the fight. It sounded like he was warming up to the idea. I think it was the reaction from the press conference. It was the amount of people saying,

Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom, Tom. John felt like he wanted to prove them wrong. But when he got to the press conference, he switched it up again, saying, quote, He's annoying to me. That's my own personal opinion. He annoys me,

Jones said of Tom Aspinall. He annoys me, Jones said about Tom Aspinall and saying, Aspinall saying he was afraid to face him. John goes, I get that you guys find it entertaining, but I find him annoying.

I just don't like him at the end of the day. If I give him the opportunity to fight me, I want to be compensated. I want to say it. I want that fucking. you money. Honestly, that's just what it is. John Jones shooting straight. This is a different situation for Jones. Because at the end of the day, guys, I will tell

you, he's not afraid. Tom Aspinall to John Jones is just another guy that he would fight and that he believes he can beat. That's just the truth. But what he does want is to get paid. And I think he recognizes the dangers in the fight. To give him that fight. I mean, when this line opened, John Jones was an underdog. John Jones was the underdog. I don't even know if there's ever been a time in his career

where someone has been favored to beat John Jones. And I think that concerns him. That concerns him. That to Jones raises some questions, right? Because for as many fights as he's had, he's always been thought to be the better guy. this guy, Tom Aspinall, is the first time that someone says there is something in him that we will open a line where John Jones is not the better guy out there.

For a guy who's never had to answer those types of questions, it's hard for him, hard for him. Guys, Aspinall is a great fighter. But I would not be so certain that he's just going to beat John Jones. Nobody's done it. Nobody's done it. And honestly, after, watching him this weekend, I don't know how people wouldn't feel more like John would be a problem for Tom Aspinall.

Just a lot of weapons that heavyweights don't see every day. While John was more, I'm done with him. Tom seemed very excited after sitting with Dana and Hunter. He was happy when he walked out of that room. I don't know what they spoke about, but whatever they did, it gave Tom home. hope, but then John goes to the press conference that goes, I'll give away the belt. I'll fight somebody else.

Tom believes that the unknown may be too much for John Jones. John Jones is a big time studier of footage. But all the footage that Tom has is him beating people up. So he thinks that that advantage, that thing that John relies on so much

is gone. It's gone. He thinks that is why John Jones is hesitant to fight him. Guys, I know that this sport moves fast. And every time we're on to the next thing, but very rarely, very rarely, does a guy demolish the heavyweight greatest of all time and is immediately asked about a challenge that's even bigger, even bigger. For as good as Jones looks Saturday, the main thing was,

how does you do against Tom? I'm interested to see how this all plays out. I don't know what will come of this. But what I do know is, and what I do believe, guys, is that ultimately we will get this fight. And you'll see Tom Aspinall versus John Jones. I just don't know if the winner is going to be what you guys expected to be. But it could be, but we will see.

I'm experienced Oh, boy, one of my stool. Pour water in my face. I want you to take the towel, fill it with water, throw it in my face. The boy got knocked the round

a little bit in that second round. But I'm back. I'm a fighting champion. I get off the stool and I fight. So I'm ready for round three. Guys, Jake Paul fought Mike Tyson last weekend. It was an absolute

monster of an event. A, monster. It absolutely killed it for Netflix. Killed it for Netflix. So many people tapped in. They had 71,000 people in an arena in Dallas, Texas to watch Mike Tyson at 57 years old by Jake Paul. Hey guys, I'm all for nostalgia. I'm all for nostalgia. Seriously, when they were doing the countdown and Jake's playing Mike Tyson's punchout, I'm all forward. I was locked in. But to have

71,000 people purchase tickets to go watch that shacks in the crowd, so many celebrities in the crowd, I get the older people wondering if Mike Tyson had another performance in him. We saw that it wasn't. I don't know why.

We are how we are. I'm trying to understand why it did. so well. I'm trying to understand why people, why people continue to buy into this. And when I say people, I do it. I stayed up till 1.30 in the morning in New York City knowing I had to work the next day to watch those fight in two-minute rounds. It's not like we got a real boxing match, three-minute rounds. We got two-minute rounds. I've heard, right, from sources that I will not name, that when Mike gets ready to make a fight,

there are a number of different things and rules and almost precautions that are taken to make sure that everybody's okay at the end of it. In terms of Roy Jones, Mike had to be very careful. Let's not hurt Roy Jones. If you're going to fight Mike here, it needs to be two-minute rounds. Or it needs to be 16-ounce gloves opposed to 10.

Those dudes fought out there with 14-ounce gloves to make sure nobody really got hurt. Why are we like this? why are we like this as people? Why? We got, I mean, they watched it. I watched it. We loved it.

I remember watching him walk to the ring going, oh my God, Mike Tyson's about to knock this dude. Out. Maybe I was hopeful. But I thought he would knock him out. It's crazy. But Jake Paul can actually box. It's time to give him credit

for the fact that this dude can actually box. Point blank, period. You know what was interesting to me as this fight got closer? When it first got announced, we were almost unified in the idea that Mike was too old. He shouldn't be doing this. He can't fight this kid. He's going to get beat. He might get knocked out.

And then as the fight got closer, we actually started to believe that Mike would actually win. Are we convinced ourselves that we're going to get to Mike Tyson from Brownsville? We saw Mike Tyson go to Brownsville. it was all perfect. I mean, perfect. And then we saw the training footage. So then we started to buy into the hype. But in reality, guys,

it literally turned out exactly like we expected it to. I mean, even Jake Paul said that late in the fight, he started to pull his punches because he didn't want to hurt somebody that didn't need to be hurt. You know, at the end of the day, we almost encourage this type of thing because we all watch it

because we love to watch things that are a bit odd 118 million people watch this event worldwide guys 60 million streaming it live so it tells you who we are no matter what you feel it was an overwhelming

success for Netflix but it's crazy to me right to watch it happen watch the fight me being up in the middle of the night watching these two days dude's fight. It's crazy to think that that many people tuned in to what many thought was a side show. So it makes me kind of question as fans, right? It makes me questions as fans.

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He got beat bad guys. It was not competitive. And he recognized right away that his time has come and his time is gone and he retired. And he did it in the classic. way as you would expect from a classy guy like Steepi Miochich. He thanked everybody from his coaches to his family, his fans, even his opponents for helping him achieve such great things. You know, my greatest memory of Steve A will be sharing the Octagon with him three times.

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