The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 3 Rounds with Daniel Cormier - DC on Alex Pereira's DANGEROUS RISK, Islam Makhachev vs. DDP, Jake vs. Logan Paul

Episode Date: January 31, 2025

Daniel Cormier IS BACK with a BRAND NEW EDITION of 3 Rounds! In this edition, DC GOES IN ON Islam Makhachev flirting with the idea of fighting Dricus Du Plessis at 185 pounds for a second UFC champion...ship belt. Plus, Cormier explains why Alex Pereira is taking a HUGE RISK by cornering Sean Strickland in Australia at UFC 312. And don't miss DC's take on Logan and Jake Paul's fake out yesterday, convincing the world that they were fighting each other on a Max PPV. And see why Cormier thinks the Global Fight League completely fumbled their draft and start of the promotion. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:00:12 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the ice.
Starting point is 00:01:00 Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHeart Podcasts presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend, Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the hips since high school. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:01:13 A redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Why did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo. Well, then you got them.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Listen to soccer moms on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was funny. You just understood.
Starting point is 00:01:51 That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven, Marquis'i's coming to him. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. basketball. So listen to Point Game on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:02:07 The volume. What's up, guys? Welcome to a brand new episode of three rounds. Look, I know it's been a little bit, but we're back, baby. It's been a long, hard training camp. I've been working hard. I've been getting a problem. You know how all the fighters always say it's the most important fight of my life? Most important fight of my life is today. And I've been training that way. The times arrived, baby. Let's go. I'm going to show you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:42 I'm experienced. Round one. So is Logan Paul fighting Jake Paul? No, guys. No, they're not. They are not fighting. But if you are to watch what you saw yesterday, the Paul brothers once again found a way to get the world up in arms.
Starting point is 00:03:04 Because they announced something yesterday, right? And with the. announcement, it said, this is the moment that you've been waiting for for 10 years, right? That's what it said on the announcement, which looked like a fight poster. I swear to God, when I got it from Luis and Louise fell for it, I had guys, Louise fell for it, hook, line, and sinker, his text. Verbatim was, oh, my God, are you serious? This dude is a mark.
Starting point is 00:03:38 The Paul brothers got Luis ass And he's in my chat already Fooled Had him fooled He's like oh my God Is this happening It looked like a fight poster But it wasn't right
Starting point is 00:03:52 The one thing About the Paul brothers though Is that they do know how to make an impact They do know how to get people talking And that's exactly what that fight poster did Because make no mistake about it guys It was a fight poster You have two guys
Starting point is 00:04:08 one on the left, one on the right, facing off, they're edited, they're highlighted, everything looks like a fight poster, right? They know what they're doing. They know how to get you talking. They know how to make an impact. But according to Mike Coppinger from ESPN,
Starting point is 00:04:27 it's ain't a fight, guys. They're saying a fight. What they did, though, is they made you believe it was a fight, right? They gave you the two fighters. They gave you where you get your, stream it, HBO Max are just Max now. But that's not the case.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Mike Pappinger said, sources close to the thing told him, it's a reality show. It's a reality show. It's smart. You know, they tricked a lot of people and they got people talking
Starting point is 00:05:02 because they know, the Paul brothers know, that if they say, we're going to fight each other, not many people believe that two brothers would go into a boxing ring unless it's Jake and Logan Paul because they have shown time and time again that they aren't above anything that can draw attention they aren't above anything that's going to make them money they aren't above doing things to kind of draw the public in
Starting point is 00:05:27 so when they say to people we're going to fight each other people got excited about it Jake the boxer Logan the WW superstar who by the way recently said that he's going to be being the WW the rest of full time. Right? With that being said, why did we believe
Starting point is 00:05:45 that he was going to fight? He said he's going WWE. The moment the Netflix deal was announced, they did a whole little feature on Logan Paul saying I've been doing this for a little bit. I've been part-time and I've been this good. Imagine how good I'm going to be now that I'm going to be doing this full-time.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Guys, it's all about staying relevant. It's all about staying relevant. And sadly, these two know how to do that. They really do. And I know at times they can be unpleasant. They can be a bit of pest, right? They can kind of get at people. And people don't like that, especially like true fight fans.
Starting point is 00:06:24 They say Jake Paul is not a real boxer. Well, Jake Paul really, he's a real boxer because everything he has touched to this point has worked, right? It worked against Tyron Woodley. It worked against Anderson Silva. And it worked because of him. because if you put Tyron Woodley and Anderson Silver in a boxing match, it doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Or if you put Anderson Silva in a boxing match against Fury, I don't even know the other guy's name. I think his name is, what's his name? The Fury guy. It's not Tyson. It's Tyson's brother. It doesn't work, right? It does not work without Jake Paul,
Starting point is 00:07:01 because he's that connective tissue that works. And both of these guys know how to make things work. And while it may be unpleasant, in most cases, it does pay dividends for the people that partner up with them and the people that take chances on the Paul brothers. So it's a reality show, not a fight. And with the Paul brothers, you would imagine a reality show could work because we are in 2025 guys. It works. I mean, shit. Guys, the Kardashians are still on. Round two.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Islamahachev and Drake is duplice, seriously. Seriously. Guys, Islamahev and Drake's duplice are going back and forth. I know that might sound stupid because I'm talking about a lightweight and a middleweight. Why would Islamahev and Drake's duplice be going back and forth on anything considering that they are so, far apart in weight classes. Well, one, Balah Muhammad's the Welterweight champion. So if Islam has any designs of becoming a double champion, one,
Starting point is 00:08:21 Balal has to either lose his championship or he's got to bypass that and go to drink his duplex C. Because seemingly, these guys don't want to fight each other. They've been going back and forth because Islam said that he could go to middleweight and beat the reigning champion. He says that his height of laws for, to middle weight. He believes that his physical data allows for it to, meaning his size, his strength. He goes, I would just need to work with my specialist, gain muscle mass, and add a little weight. I think that I can try.
Starting point is 00:08:57 As I already said at the press conference after my fight, if they offered me a fight tomorrow and say they will give me time to gain weight, I would not turn it down. I would 100% agree to fight at middle weight. I'm not saying that I have a better chance. that I can 100% finish Dupless C. But watching his fights, watching his style, I think that I have the keys to victory.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Make no mistake about it. This is him being very respectful, right? He's being respectful. He's being respectful of the idea of how big a challenge that is. Of course, the champion hears that. And he says, it's hard to really think
Starting point is 00:09:39 or take it seriously right now. He goes, I've got a big fight, coming up so I didn't make anything of it. If we get to a situation where we are not at right now, he's an incredible fighter. Make no mistake about it. He was so incredibly good against Mercano. He proved once again why he's the pound for pound best in the world. But I don't care how good you are.
Starting point is 00:10:00 He obviously trains with 185 pounds in the gym so he knows. But he doesn't train against me. Believe me, it's not the same thing. Even on a technical level, the stand-up, his wrestling and grappling is phenomenal. but I would just overpower him. That's what I think. You know, both of these gentlemen are being respectful of each other and being respectful of the other guy. They're both being respectful of the other guy's skill set, their abilities, and how hard it would be for them to do what they're saying.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But Drake is duplice. It's time for us to stop doubting him. I mean, at some point we got to respect him, right? I know it may not look as appealing to some as they want their world champions to look. But we just watched him submit Israel and Asana. We just watched him break him down over the course of three rounds and get him to a point where Izzy got submitted by him, something we'd never seen before.
Starting point is 00:11:05 We have seen him beat Sean Strickland. We have seen him finish Robert Whitaker. At some point, we have to respect. Drake is duplice. I think Islam respects him. I don't know that Islam would understand how hard it would be to fight a guy of that size. I think this guy might weigh 220,
Starting point is 00:11:28 220 when he's not making weight. You know, many people talk about the amount of weight that the Russians cut. And Islam cuts weight to make 155. But I don't know that even on his heaviest days, he weighs 185. Now, I'm not saying that I don't think that he can do it. I just think that it's much harder than I think anyone understands to go up two weight classes. Pereira did it at 185 to 205.
Starting point is 00:12:02 But even the fact that we talk about him going up to heavyweight, it's kind of crazy. Now, I get he has skills. but that would be very, very tough. And I believe you can do anything. You guys know how much I respect Mahathev. And I think he can do anything that he sets his mind to. But that ask is so big. Because again, Dracus has to weigh 215, 220.
Starting point is 00:12:32 Dracus could never make lightweight. Never. I don't know the last time he weighed 1.50. So guys, I don't know what would happen, but I do know that there are weight classes for a reason, guys. It's a tale as old as time. All right, guys. I think I might have broke my hand in round one. The boys hurt.
Starting point is 00:13:03 I broke my hand on a left hook, but I will fight because I fight for you. Round three. Alex Pereira is reportedly cornering Sean Strickland for UFC 3. You know, we have this weird thing going on in mixed martial arts right now where former opponents are now training together and building these bonds with each other as they prepare for massive events. One, Israel-Ettesanya is fighting this weekend. He's taking on Nasor Dina Mabov.
Starting point is 00:13:42 and in that training camp was Robert Whitaker, a guy to Edisonia beat twice. Sean Strickland got knocked out by Alex Pereira on Alex Pereira's way to a world title, and then they started training together. And then Pereira cornered him. So that becomes a thing. We don't know what those training sessions look like,
Starting point is 00:14:04 but I think what you don't understand as people on the outside is it's more than just the training. It's the bond that's built outside of the training. How much time are these guys spinning together to build a relationship once they are outside of the gym? This to me tells me that Pereira and Strickland are building a relationship that's very strong. Why? Because we already know that Alex Pereira has a fight on the books, Las Vegas, UFC 313, right?
Starting point is 00:14:44 What we do know is that Alex Pereira is going to be fighting a guy who could be his more formidable opponent because of the style. But what we also have to take into effect is that Pereira feels that his relationship with Strickland is so strong that he's willing to travel across the world to corner him. To me, it seems dangerous. To me, it seems risky for Alex to go all the way to Australia, knowing everything that goes into a training camp and how hard that travel can be on your body
Starting point is 00:15:28 when you're preparing to be or continue to defend your world championship. So how strong is that bond? Right? How strong is that bond? How much does Sean Strickland now mean to elect. Pera for him to take that risk. Because trust me, guys, it is a risk. It is a risk.
Starting point is 00:15:51 When you look at Uncle I have been going back and forth, when you look at the fighting style or the ability, it all boils down to this. Alex Perre could beat up Ancolaev's legs, as we saw Yombovich do, and him look like he could not stand. But Ancolaev has that ability to take him down and hold him down. He said he ain't going to do that.
Starting point is 00:16:13 that. It to me would seem like a massive mistake to not do that or to anyone in the world that watches fighting and knows what it takes to go and get a victory. It seems like Ancolaev should use that wrestling he showed in round four and five against John Behovic to win those rounds against Alex Pereira. Hell, we saw Jan Behovic hold Alex Pereur down for a round and a half. And what still is, his most competitive fights is going up to 205. But to add that, add to that the travel different time zone the sleep patterns and sleep schedule it's difficult it's difficult to add that so to me chan strickland must be one of alex perera's best friends because you don't do that for just anything anybody now one thing i won't do is question Alex
Starting point is 00:17:06 i'm done i won't question whether or not he can wrestle i won't question any of that anymore because he has proven it time and time again that whatever he is doing is right and it's allowed for him to become one of the greatest fighters of all time. Yes, he is one of the greatest fighters of all time in the shortest amount of time I have ever seen anyone building a legacy that is that strong or a resume that is that strong.
Starting point is 00:17:33 I've never seen it. I've never seen someone do what Pereira's done and he's a free spirit. And maybe, maybe that free spirit allows for him, to be as good as he's been. This dude's the man. And if he gets through this next challenge, if he gets through Ancolae,
Starting point is 00:17:53 I'm going on the record and saying that light heavyweight is going to have a poiton problem for a really long time. We have finally made it to the end of the NFL season and it's Super Bowl week. So why not get it on the action
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Starting point is 00:19:08 responsible gaming resources, see dkng.com slash audio. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast?
Starting point is 00:19:22 Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to a... We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Starting point is 00:19:39 And... Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the... the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, Hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas,
Starting point is 00:20:00 and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen.
Starting point is 00:20:10 We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends, me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, family? This is Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game. We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs. I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup, he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
Starting point is 00:21:15 He has to guard Julius Randall. And then he has to give us everything he gives us on the night-to-night bases on offense. And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson, we dive into some playoff history too. Steve Nass would get that thing. That man, hell get the flying. He run up the court, licking his fingers
Starting point is 00:21:31 why he got the ball. After you go through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you figure it out real quick. Get your ass up and down the court, and you're going to get the ball. So listen to Point Game on the, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This week on Crimless, we're joined by our first ever guest.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Sorry, our first ever human guest. I don't think I could be in the same room with Shamrock the parrot. I'd be too nervous. That's right. The very funny, Will Ferrell joins Rory Scovel and me, Josh Dean, for an episode dedicated to the many crimes committed by people also named Will Ferrell. They called to his fellow officer for the nipper. What are the nippers? Very good question.
Starting point is 00:22:19 No, I was thinking, would that be a good name for like a salad dressing? Simple assault. And it's a play on word, salt? Maybe not. I say we invest and we see. There's only one way to know. This did not amuse the cops. By the way, normally the cops are amused, but this did not abuse the cops.
Starting point is 00:22:36 Will even comes clean about some of his own crimes. I didn't get caught. You know why? If you don't want to be suspected of anything, you whistle as you walk. Listen to Crime List on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And now for my final thought. The Global Fight League, last week they held their initial draft. And if I'm being quite honest, it was one of the weirdest things that I've ever seen in my entire life.
Starting point is 00:23:12 From the studio shots with people that I respect sitting at that desk, Goldberg and Robin and Caroline. line to the whole draft, the music. But I think the thing that stood out the most to me was that before the draft was completed, as it started, if you paid attention, if you were watching closely, they showed a graphic that showed every single pick completed.
Starting point is 00:23:47 So by watching, you know, was getting drafted, when they were getting drafted, where they were going to. It was all done. It was literally all done in the first 10 minutes of the draft. You screen grab it, bang, you got it. Those all the picks, turn the camera. It was unreal. So when you launch something new, it's all about the first impression.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And to me, that wasn't the best first impression. It wasn't not great. and I'm a guy that's all for more MMA. I wish all those guys the best, but they've got to be better. Many of my contemporaries, the people that fought when I did, and look at me, right?
Starting point is 00:24:36 I got gray hair. I don't look like a guy that's actively competing. But a lot of those guys that I spent a lot of time with when I was at the top of the sport, the guys that sit alongside me at the top of the sport, they are all a part of this organization. all of them. So I really want the best for it.
Starting point is 00:24:55 But shit, after last Friday, I honestly don't know if it could get any worse because it was that bad. Guys, that was another episode of three rounds. I appreciate your love and support always. Until next time, like, subscribe, and tell you friends about my YouTube channel.
Starting point is 00:25:14 And never miss an episode of three round every Wednesday at 5 p.m. Eastern. 2 p.m. Pacific. Until next time, guys. Peace. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey, Jonas. Nice. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it.
Starting point is 00:25:40 We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy. Not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel,
Starting point is 00:26:13 help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app. podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Deanna Maria Riva, and on my new podcast, How Hard Can It Be? I call on my Gen X squad from Ohio to Hollywood as we navigate Midlife's most fantastic BS.
Starting point is 00:26:38 Unfiltered conversations from night sweats to fupas to scheduling sex. Wait, what sex? Is it just me or does every woman my age want to look at Pinterest instead of having sex sometimes? They say we can't polish a turd, but we're sure going to try. So let's get blunt with laughs, tears, or tears of of laughter. Listen to How Hard Can It Be with Gianna Maria Riva on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:27:03 What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs. We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season. And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments. If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry. You just understood. That's how personal it got. Wow. Then after that game seven,
Starting point is 00:27:21 Mark keep coming to him. He's like, you know I love you, dog. You know, it's all love. This was just playoffs. This was just basketball. So listen to Point Game on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.

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