The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 4th and South - Fournette & Landry on WILD Nick Saban & Alabama recruitment, 2017 NFL draft RB class | 4th & South

Episode Date: March 28, 2026

NFL stars and LSU legends Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette look back at the loaded 2017 running back draft class, share stories about being recruited by Nick Saban at Alabama, react to Indiana coach Curt Cignetti and his stance on gold cleats at the start of spring practice, and tap into the excitement of opening weekend for the MLB and Formula 1. All lines provided by ⁨ @hardrockbet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What's up, baby, you know, I went the turkey, got the head done. Got the du rag on. You know what I'm saying? No, huh? No, huh? Yeah. Hold on, hold on, son. They ain't popped right like that.

It's a little, it's a little, little blood. That's why I'm just, you know, just all the way around, just trying to give you right. Full thing? Yeah, old thing. I might have come back with a bush. What's up, y'all? This is Fortis South, and we's back for another one. Appreciate all of love, all the subscriptions.

all the follows, all the likes, all the comments. We see y'all, we love y'all, we're thinking about y'all. And we're here to do it again. Again. I'm Jarvis Landry. No, no other. Fuck, I fucked that up. This is an I-Heart podcast.

Guaranteed human. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own.

podcast called Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions. Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it, but, you know, tired and sick. Tired and sick.

Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and Friends. me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.

This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades. Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast, for no-nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French name.

And she likes Clay. Listen, Lennar Rabakina is arguably the best player in the world right now, and I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart, Heart women's sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's

Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year. Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, Lennox. Okay, so I need to just stay, stay, stay, stay, stay. It's good. Fuck it. Fuck it.

Let's run it. All right. All right. Damn. We got to keep that other piece about with the Leonard shit, though. Yeah. Maybe that could be the little snippet before the actual shit begins. That's what I'm saying.

That's why we did that. And I'm what I'm saying? Make it make sense. No, 100%. Hey, that is. Man. Man, what's up? We back.

another episode, Fourth and South. I'm Jarvis Juice Landrean with my co-host Mr. Lenny Bugger Farnett

One of the best greatest to ever do it. What's up, my brother? How are you feeling? I'm good. How y'all doing out of the day?

My beautiful people. Yes, man. Yes, man. We just want to give a big shout out to y'all, man, for, you know, following us, comment and subscribing.

It's been incredible last three weeks and we just getting started, man. Last week we opened up with a football question of Lenny this week. I think we should do the same thing. You think so? I think we should do the same

thing, you know. Let's do it. Let's go blind ranks. Okay. Five running backs. One to five. Rank them. You ready? Let's do it.

All right. Austin Epler. And we have five. We got five. Okay, so I put Austin at five. Understood. Christian McCaffrey. Can you, can we skip him and come back?

No, son. Okay, okay, okay. This is not that. Christian, okay. My fault. I apologize. I was trying to cheat the test. Christian at one right now.

Love it. Alvin Camara. I'll put Elvin at two. Okay. So we got Austin Eklah at 5. Christian McAfree at 1. We got Elvin Camara at 2. Yes.

Joe Mixing. I like Joe mixing. I know. He's tough. He's tough. Bro, he's versatile, bro. Okay. I'll put you at three.

Three? Okay. Okay. Yeah. So the last person got to be number four. And that last person is Delvin Cook. Ooh. How are you feeling about your top five right now?

I think I kind of mess it up. Where did you mess it up? Delvin Cook. And what would he be? I will probably put Delvin at two or three. Over A.K.? Over Joe Mix? Yes.

Yes. I think Delvin Cook and Minnesota's undefeated. No, he definitely was a dog. Yeah. He definitely was. was a dog full-time pro bowler for one thousand yards seasons that's what i'm saying oh man 17 total touchdowns in 2020 he was an animal i just like joe mix game because he's like versatile like you know he you could motion him out the backfield he'd do some damage he could

he's an every down back to me he could do it all he is he is he is definitely a every downback but you know since we can't we can't go back without our uh our picks, bro. I will have to say, I'm pretty comfortable with who I picked. Yeah, no, I feel that. I feel that.

I feel that. Well, you know. Wait, wait, wait. All these guys, damn, I just know that all these guys from my class. Yeah.

That's all 2017 guys. Yeah, 100%. I like that. I like that. 100%. 100%. How do you feel about, like, your draft class?

Like, would you say, like, your draft class? class was like one of the most elite running back classes to date? I believe so, you know, because it's a couple of guys who we didn't mention and got Karame Hunt. You know, I believe in the last couple of years that 2017 class with the RBs is one of the best. Yeah, but Karin was a dog, bro.

I played with him, brother. And, bro, Karin was always upset because he wasn't getting on the field enough. And another guy that was in your class, I believe, was Nick. Chuck. Great Chub. Bro. And Nick Chubb, the Batman, bro. Yeah.

Straight Animal, one of the best teammates I ever played with, first of all. Second of all, the most selfless teammate that I ever played with. For sure. Third of all, this, bro, he had the team on his back for so many weeks at one point of the time. I'm just like, look, just get a ball to Nick Chubb. And he don't talk. Huh? Nick Chubb was quiet.

Oh, bro, he ain't saying the word. Nick don't talk like that. Bro, he ain't saying a word. Listen, my first time saying Nick laugh, we was out in the club in Miami. I made a joke. Went to a club? Yeah, he went to the club. Man, no, bro.

Yes, yes. Me and Nick, bro, we went to the club. We was by the car. I made a joke, you know, he laughed. He laughed. He got a weird laugh. He was like, uh-huh. I said, damn.

I said, you laughing? He was like, no, that shit was funny for real. That died Nick, man. Yeah. He's one of the best guys to be around. Bro, he, bro, he, bro, he had an incredible career so far, bro. Like, when we was in Cleveland, bro, I could just remember times where, you know, again, a silent assassin where he's not paying much, bro,

but on the ball, getting his hands, bro. His game is speaking so loud, dog. Like, guys were afraid to tackle this man, bro. Like, I'm not kidding. And he didn't even get drafted as high as you guys, right? He didn't get drafted as high as you guys, right? I think you guys may have had the most prolific, if not the very best running back draft class ever

when you and see him leading the charge, bro. Bro, listen, bro, like that class, I believe for many years, you know, that 2017 running back class was leading the way. You know, and you still have guys who are paving the way leading away right now, to this day, you know? And I believe, you know, I think people kind of misconstrued some of our years, too, and, you know, what if CMC didn't go to the 49ers?

You know, would he be ranked where he's at right now if he stayed in Carolina when he was losing when he was hurt for two seasons in a row and nobody and somebody, they kind of, fell off on his career? Yeah. You got to think about that. So, and I'm thinking about like, damn, we did the rank is right? Well, where would I rank myself? Yeah.

No, it's a tough one. That's a tough one. Guys got that great class. You mentioned something about CMC out in Carolina, right? There's speculation out there that, you know, he knew that team was tanking. And he didn't want to, we talk about prime years all the time. We talk about giving a team our prime years. and they trade their guys away,

they tanking the season for this other player. There's speculations out there, right? And that CMC, you know, was hurt, but he may have not been hurt. And he kind of forces his way out of Carolina. How do you feel about that? Do what you got to do. Hey, hey, do what you got to better your career,

to better yourself, right? Because for a long period of time, they were saying CM was Christian was injury prone. Yeah. When he was playing 98% of the snaps and, you know, they got rid of Cam Newton. Everything was going through the running game, right?

Everything was going through him. So, man, sometimes, bro, you get put in situations where, you know, it's about me. You know, I understand he loves the team. You know, he's a great, he is a great teammate. Everyone speaks highly of him, but at some point in your career, look out for yourself. So whether he faked it or not, he's in a great situation now. Okay. Another question. CMC on this new Carolina team, Bryce Young coming into his own,

he's figuring out this leadership thing. Yeah. He's figuring out the, you know, who his weapons is. Obviously, they had good, they got a good backfield. I think he got a good decent one-two punch, right? One of the guys this year, he went to the Steelers, got traded to the Steelers. But how do you think Carolina's offense and backfield would look with Bryce playing at the level he's playing with CMC back there? Do you think they beat the L.A. Rams in the overtime game? Is CMC? With CMC, the missing piece? What's your? your thoughts on that?

I think my honest opinion, brother, from the heart. Yeah. Doesn't work my boy. It doesn't work him like a, you know what I'm saying? Like a mule.

He can't work right now in San Francisco. It's no different. But it's different, though, because he has, I think in San Francisco, he has better pieces around him, right? Also, and also the coaching.

I think Kyle Shanahan has a, I'm not going to say a better coach, but he has the upper. hand on the coach of Carolina, right? He's finding ways to get Christian open, get him in one-on-one, one-on-one situations. So I just think I don't know if Christian was in the round where playing against Carolina for the rounds or against the rounds.

I don't think it would have made a difference. I think it would have made a huge difference. I think it would have made all the difference having a guy like that on the field for any team. Having a guy like that on the field that you could put in one-on-one situations with backers, you got to bring another DB on the field, right? The different type of personnel is that we see, you know, my guy out in Shanahan out in San Francisco using them in, right?

I think that is to the benefit of any team that has a player like CMC. I just feel like it was tough seeing Cam Newton leave that team. Yeah. I was seeing Coach Rivera leave that team, right? And I just didn't, I think looking back at it, he definitely made the right decision, whether he forced his way out, you know, whatever, whatever. I'm happy that he got out of there to be able to be on a championship contending team. With more, even more weapons, George Kittle, they just sound like Evans.

A dog. Yeah, Brock Purdy, who's back there. And I would be, I would stand in the middle of the road and say, I did not believe in Brock Purdy. I did not think he was a quarterback that can get the job done. I would be the first to admit, maybe I was wrong. Well, hey, in my honest opinion, I think you could put any quarterback in Kyle Shanahan's offense,

and they will prosper. You see what Mc Jones was doing? from the page? Yes. No, I ain't really, I ain't really people. Yes, when, when he, when 13 got hurt. Yeah. My man cam and it was zipping it.

Doing his thing. Yes, making the right throws. You know, I think, and I also come from the coach, put him in the right position to make those plays. Mm-hmm. So, hey, that's a, that's a great offense, a scheme they got over there at 4-9, my guy. No, I agree. I agree. I love everything that they do over there, man.

Like, Conchernhan has been added for a long time, doing a lot of great things as an offensive coordinator. You know what I mean? So I'm... I admit I won the league and brother, Paul was like, you know, hold on. Man, watch out. Speaking of running backs, you mentioned Joe Mix being like a great puzzle piece. do you think him leaving Cincinnati has hindered the growth of that team, right?

You look at Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, you know, all of the success that they was having was to me playing their division. It was paired with the ring game. Like, you know, Joe Mix was, he was the thing that got the ball rolling to me. Obviously, you know, Burrow is amazing, you know, but the running game, Now that they don't have it, you know, I feel like that's like a chink in the armor, you know. I know you keep up with LSU guys. Like, you have any, you have any thoughts about, like, you know, Joe Mix leaving that offense or if that was the real reason why, you know, outside of the injuries, they haven't been successful?

I mean, I mean, at the end of the end-house situations of each and every organization, right? And us watching the Bengals, knowing what they're capable of when they run a game, especially when they're, and Joe Mixes on a row, it takes a lot of Joe, Borough, and the passer game. 100%. And, you know, they have a decent runner back, Chase Brown, I believe, who is number 30, he was fast. But he's not the, I don't think he's the third and one guy to go get it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you don't make him like Joe, right?

That can power and can outrun and can catch and can block. I don't know. But I believe this, a team that's going to pick him up will be very, very happy. Yeah, no, for sure. I agree. I agree. I think playing in division, well, as I played in division,

I realized how, like, special he was. Like, he was one of those guys that, like, when they had the football, I didn't go sit down on the bench. Yeah. Like, I went stand up, arms crossed. I can say arms cross. I had a jacket on because it was cold as hell in Cleveland, or this and daddy somewhere.

You know what I'm saying? Snow falling on the ground. And I'm watching this guy, like, cut like a receiver, catch the ball like a receiver. You know what I mean? Being patient, a patient runner. Speed to power game is there. Like, you know, I feel like if I was a running back,

like that'll be kind of like my style. I ain't going to lie. He's a little bigger than I would want to be. He's big as shit. Bro, he big, bro. Big, big back, bro. Good speed to power. I love watching him play, man.

I'm excited for him, man, to see him back on the field this year. I think he's out there in Houston So it's going to be great to see him And my guy Todd Montgomery out there now too I think so it'll be awesome to see With that one-two punch It's going to be like Definitely

I was watching your boy Tavon Armstead Tavon Arnstadt Man sorry about I don't get people named right bro I apologize though But I was watching him And AK had a podcast recently

Where AK said Man I love New Orleans New Orleans is like my home, my heart. Like I love the people here. I love the organization. Obviously, we know AK is a phenomenal player. We've talked about this in our, you know, throughout our process of like, you know, AK may be leaving with the, you know, with them acquiring Travis A.T.N.

ATN. So do you feel like AK is one of those players that the Saints can, it lose? Or do you think that like AK is just so committed to Louisiana that he don't ever

don't he won't leave? Listen, let's be real here, brother. AK played a pivotal part in the recent years for the same. Whether I understand these last couple of years, it was kind of like a, I'm not going to say

a downfall. Well yeah, you can say that because they Yeah. When I was with Temple, you know, we was winning that division. You know what I'm saying? When I was in Temple, we was winning that division. But see when they had Breeze, they had Mark, A.K. Mike Thomas, Michael Thomas. Bro, that was a high power offense that was very tricky and very hard to stop. You hear me?

I'm not going to lie. 100%. So do I see him leaving? I do. But as a New Orleans man, New Orleans man, I wouldn't want him to leave because he means so much of that city. 100%. People got to understand this.

When the Saints is winning, the violence go down 60%. That's true. Listen. Listen, listen, for an office at the New Orleans Saints, whatever you're doing, don't lose my man. You're ever like we, we, he's one of the reasons. is why everything decrease yeah decrease outside of the building outside of the building and and bro listen and it's so crazy we still up on a he's a 2014 class like myself we graduated

high school yeah no we still talking about the we still talk about the backs from 2014 oh it was special man listen i could bro when i when i was in high school i i i was in high school i i i remember watching these guys, right? Because, you know, sometimes in a 24-7 rival's camp, our names fluctuated, I go from one, one time to number two. I started to be like, you know what? Who the fuck is this dudes? Like, let me go check them out, right? So now, bro, a funny-ass story, bro, when it was in the Undama game, right? I met Delvin Cook. I met all the guys, they were kind of comparing me to. And this overall meeting them, see how they were, you know what I'm saying

the other again was in I believe not Orlando that's in St. Petersburg St. Petersburg right? Yeah

my first time I mean the number one at the time the number one office alignment in the nation who's from Louisiana

Big Cam went to West Monroe man I can't believe he chose Bama bro but go ahead I ain't gonna cut you off

yeah yeah that shit was crazy huh that we're gonna get it to that you don't get it to that right

so my first time meeting of you know I told you If I ain't play ball, I'd have been a professional gambler. You hear me? Listen, I took all their money. This is a true story.

The day before the game, we're shooting dice. They keep asking me, man, what are you going at? Man, where are you going at? I say, look, brother, I got all this money on this fool. Asked me that after the dice game. I don't hear nothing about no colleges right now. It's about that money. It's about that bread.

You hear about that? But just going back into that, bro. that not even a running back class to me that 2014 class was so special, right? Because we was the first class to open up doors for a lot of, especially in my high school. People weren't getting

scholarships to LSU. You know, Trey Turner was the first and it was you know, tiring to. Big Tray, a dog. A dog, you remember? Like, like that. Yeah. But I think the 14 class, for me, we opened up so many doors.

Like, we had on my high school, team at St. Augustine, St. Augustine High School, the St. Joseph boys. We had 18 people go D1. My Lord. Y'all boy had a little juco over there, huh? We had 18 people from my class go D1. That's a fact. My God.

So it's like, even in high school, but, like, the recruiting shit was aggravating, too, though. Yeah. Why you said that? Brough, yeah, you know, yeah, Nick Sabre coming to my, coming to my school. Less my, we had every major coach from around

they're pulling up They come and see me you. You hear that. Put gas, gas the jet up. Today's show is brought to you

by our presenting sponsor Har Rock Bet Florida Sportsbook. The Har Rock Bet party is on and your name is on the guest list. Hall Rock Bet is the top rated sportsbook

app that's super easy to use for both fans and former at least like ourselves. You've got all the betting options and features you love like the same game parley's and live.

betting. One thing that says hard rock bet apart is their legendary reward drops. Just open the app every Thursday and see what you get. And sure, hard rock bet is Florida's only legal sports book, but you don't have to be in Florida to join the party. Hard Rock bet is also live in Arizona, Ohio, New Jersey, Indiana, Tennessee, Florida, Illinois, Colorado, and Michigan with more states on the way. So if you're visiting Florida, download Hard Rock Bet while you're here and keep the party rolling when you head back home. Now, when you sign up, hard rock bet with double your winnings on your first 10 bets, max $50. So if you would have won $100 bucks on Miami to win at plus 150, make that $200.

With 4th and South, we'll be using their lines, odds, and data when talking about the biggest stories in sports and will even take part in the action ourselves. Sign up for hard rock bet today and get the party started with us. Offered by the Seminole tribe in Florida. Offered by the Semino Hard Rock Digital LLC in all other states. must be 21 and over and physically present in Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, and Virginia to play. Terms and conditions apply.

Concerned about gambling in Florida, call 1833 playwise. In Indiana, if you or someone you know has a gambling problem and wants help, call 1-800-9 with it. In Ohio, call 1-800 My Reset. Gambling problem, call 1-800 gambler. Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, name?

Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special.

So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. Oh, we were thinking I'm originally calling it. one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it.

Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite on Humor Me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes.

Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get. your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levan this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings

from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.

That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.

The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sports Slice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slical Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. My favorite, one of my, one of my favorite coaches, right? And I know people going to hate this because, you know, we'll be his Anna boys, like, throwing through.

Pop your shit. Coach Nick Staven was my favorite coach. Man, really? My favorite, I think how he embarked on my family, you know what I'm saying? I could, I can remember on my official visit, you know, he, but he got a crazy-ass house, right? Big ass house. Yeah. He's a little bit.

Yeah. Official business, bro, we aging now. Man, so see, see, I knew I made the right decision,

bro. I knew I made the right decision. I didn't get to see the crib. I ain't get to see the crib. I ain't even get to step foot in the dough. I knew I made the right decision. All right. So,

what was your ranking in high school? Me? I was, I was number, number, I was number three in my state, foreign estate. Yeah.

And what about nationally? Nationally? I was number 12 or 17, somewhere between 12 and 17 in the country. But I was the number one receiver in Louisiana. That's wild, old Jalves. What are you talking to say? I'm just saying. Listen, listen.

Hey, you sounded like your buddy, bro. What you're trying to say, bro? You sound like your guy, man. What's up, bro? I'm just, brother. I'm just saying at that time, how Alabama was recruiting, you had to be overall. Yeah, overall. Two-time Gatorade player the year.

I was two-time. I'm probably still the only person that went that two times back-to-back. No, definitely. We got to look that up, actually. I'm going to look at it. I think I am. I'm going to look that up. And if I do, and if I am, hey, but shout out to my parents.

Brest, shout out to God. You hear about it? What I was telling me. It wasn't possible. I swear, it wasn't possible. Listen, my recruit story, bro, we're going down the hill, right? We're going to the lake. You know, he had all these...

He got a lake at his crib, too? Bro, listen, you got a side by side by sides. He's like, come on, Lenna, you could drive you down there. So, look, I'm pushing this bitch, everybody. I'm going... I'm putting, like, he holds on with their life. He said, listen, Lenna, like, we really are going, like, probably like 60 miles. He said, listen, you flip this bitch?

You go commit here. I said, hold on, hold on, let me slow this bitch down then. Hold on, hold on. You think you're about approaching me, brother, to come here and I flip the will? Nah, we ain't doing that. But, bro, there's a story, right? And a lot of Alabama fans who like trolling me going to get jealous, right? Yeah.

I was probably one of the most disappointed guys that he missed out that didn't commit to Alabama. This is a quote. This is a quote. Nick Saban had to say about Leonard Fernette. One of the hardest things about recruit is that you really, develop relationship with these certain players, right? Uh-huh.

And it's very disappointing when you have a close relationship with these guys and they choose elsewhere. Bang. Damn, booze them. Right. Not only do you have to do that, but you have to play against them.

That's one of the hardest things. Lennifernet comes to mind. He was talking about your boy. Yeah. From Fort and South. That guy. What the hell? Huh?

Out of all these guys. God that went to Bama, he'd think about old Lenny. Man, bro, who was that Bama at the time when you were getting recruited there? Was that Derek Hira era? Was that Kenyan Drake era? Who was that first back during that time? I'm going to say this, right? I'm going to say this.

I was so close to going to Bama. That was my next question. Trust me. Jalbis, like, there was the running back school at the time, bro. 100%. Trent Richardson. They're handing it off. They're handing that ball off.

Brough, Mark Engram. Trent Richardson. Dogs. Derek Henry. Dog. Eddie Lacey. Louisiana dog. So in my mind,

and not only this, Burton Burns, their running back coach went to my high school. He's from New Orleans. Who? Burton Burns. Coach Burns.

Oh, yeah. He's from New Orleans. He was there when I was there. He recruited. Same high school at St.A. No. So now it's like, all right, my back against the wall. I'm looking at what happened with Atlanta College when he, he was the number one safety, I believe, at the time.

And he didn't commit to LSU. And it was on his ass. Man, I was going to tell you about that, too. I was about to be like, you're going to be like your boy then, huh? Well, listen, bro. if it's echoing a little bit you go now you go now you go now

bro I believe if I committed to Alabama Louisiana would have hated me for the rest of my life oh for sure number one player in the country and also Frank Wilson was not letting that happen I don't care

would nobody say boy if Frank had to drive down there to the 7 wad every day Frank would have drove from practice to the 7th wall every day. Now, and mind you, at the time, we got Elford Blue, Kenny Hill, Jeremy Hill, Terrence McGee, Terrence McGee, Michael Ford, like, our backfield stack. Yes.

I promise you he would have hopped in that car every day to make sure he got Leonard Furnett secured. I 100% I don't doubt. at all. This is a real question. If I want the Bama, would this be fourth and south? Oh, yeah. You know, it can still be a little 40-saudy thing.

You know what I'm saying? Ain't no, ain't no, ain't no. But what if the relationship was in there, though? I think the relationship would have just naturally been there because you are a baller. You got game. You feel me? And game recognized game is an easy thing to tell.

Like, you know what I mean? Like, and the streets talking. You know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't, it ain't nothing that would have kept this relationship, this vibe, this brotherhood, you know, from actually happening, bro. But I want to ask you, when you, when, when Nick Saber took you out on the lake, put you in a four by four, did you know that you wasn't going to commit to Alabama already? Like, did you feel like, did you already know, like, man, look, I'm just trying to take my visits, enjoy. enjoy myself, you know, because I'm the number one playing, when you're the number one playing in the country, bro, I'm sure they're pulling out all the stops.

You do what you're popping. You do what you're wrong with you got it. Man. So did you know you wasn't going to commit to Alabama? And then Nick Saber kind of like made you think about it or you knew that you wasn't going there and you just kind of like enjoying the ride? I think on my official visit, right, and how boring it was there outside of football. Yeah.

Like, damn, bro, like, and then it's a long way traveling to go see my family back at home. For sure. I think that kind of, they kind of sealed the deal for me, you know, being that, you know, we're from Louisiana. I mean, Joe, was you like, what, 30 minutes from LSU, 40? Yeah, if that, if that. And I'm an hour, I'm an hour and an hour, 10 from New Orleans, right? Yeah, from your whole family. It just made more sense.

You know, I had a child at the time. At the time, I didn't want to be that far from my daughter, you know what I'm saying? So it just made perfect sense. for me to be by LSU Tiger and also it was going to open up doors just for my family too by staying in Louisiana. You know, I'm homegrown, golden child,

you know, that committed. And I stayed through all that adversity whether we won a championship or not. I fought my ass off of Louisiana every Saturday going out there. I put that boot on my back and I handle it on my business. You hear me?

That you did. That you did. That you did. That you did. But, Katrina, baby. be in all, bro. Katrina, so now that I'm here, can I, can I give you my personal top five

running backs from LSU? Yeah, of course. Please make sure Billy Cannon is on the list. Huh? We can't get a Billy Cannon sighting? Listen. Not even the honorable mention. He's our only Heisman.

He won the Heism with 800 y'all. That's cool, right? You play defense, I understand all that, right? He'd do it all. There wasn't a Maxwell Award at the time, I don't believe. Let me mention, my guys. Okay, give me a top five LSU all time. And I'm not going to put myself on this. Just the guys I've, I reckon, I'm recognizing as some of the best. To ever do it in LSU history.

Ever do it? Let's get it. Kevin Falk. Dog. Jeremy Hill. Jay Hill. Jay Hill was an animal. Man, Jay Hill was filthy. Filthys. Jay Hill up there like my Mount Rushmore of. of running backs in LSU history. Like, like, he up there, like, high, high upon the clouds. Like, he up to him. Jay Hill was a different animal, you know.

And listen, I could remember, like, he telling me, yeah, I'm not to leave. This could be your shit. I'm like, damn. I'm like, damn, say less. I'm saying that shit in my head. I'm like, damn. He had that aura, too, bro. Let's see, let's see.

I'm not going to lie. There is Geist. Oh, it was an animal Guys was a dog Did you get a year with him? Bro, my freshman year he came in my sophomore year We was back and forth Yeah, bro

Yeah I um He was older than you by one year though right? Younger than me He was younger than you He was younger than you Bro, I remember I remember being in the league

And watching y'all play Arkansas maybe Yeah, yeah, yeah, going back and forth I scored touchdown, he scored touchdown. I'm like, we don't even need to put no receivers out there. Just put eight linemen on the line, no tight ends. Five and seven.

And just run power. Toss power right. Toss power left. Hey, bro. Another guy that don't get his flowers enough, Joseph will die. Fire. Number 10.

And number, number, But my last, my last, it has to be Clyde. That was the left? Yes. I ain't going to lie, bro. I like that. I like Clyde, bro. I like that.

To me, I'll put him once since he won a championship. But if we're going to over stats, he'll be five. Just skill set. Just skill set. I think it's always a skill set thing. But I like, I like, I like, I like, I like your ranking. I like where, where you, I got, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like, I like the order of your Mount Rushmore, LSU running back Mount Rushmore.

I really do like the order. I think Kevin Falk obviously is a legend. We'll go down as one of the, he is the best, one of the best running backs ever. Like I told Kevin, I'm sorry on him, bro. I'm supposed to break that Russia record. I'm good. I'm good. I'm gone.

Hey. Man, we still beefing. It's cool, though. Hey, look, listen, that man happy that you ain't break that record. Let that man be. But he's that man, you got all the other ones, bro. Why you want that one, too? Listen, listen, when I do something, I'm giving this shit my all.

I won't be, damn, literally got this, this, this, I won't break everything. That's the only record I'm kind of sad I didn't break was the all-time Russian record. But at the same time, it's okay because he played four years. Lerr, that's my other name, Lerr, Lerr played two and a half. True, true enough, true enough, true enough. Listen, you want me a lot of money, bro. Back in the day, back in the day, back in the day. day, bro. There's a picture out there somewhere where Mike Poncey wearing an LSU shirt,

bro, because you was dogging them Gators. You was dog in Auburn. Yes. And he definitely was running through. Oh, my God. Oh, Miss, you was, I'm like, yo, this boy don't even need to be out there on the field with these children, bro. Like, you was making, I don't think you understood how, like, much money you won me and then how crazy it was to watch, bro. you you like the Arbor run

where he threw buddy cross your neck like a chain and then you got it's on and you dog that game that game y'all was I don't know what the fuck I was on you was those things bro

that's the game that started everything bro bro I'm telling you I'm watching that game bro and I remember people on the team being like hey hey juice man man what that dude on bro i'm like i don't he ain't know nothing that nicks he's a grown man bro he been this way for the long is like this man had a beard in seventh grade you know he been this size chill out you're going for brother you're going for i ain't had no

fucking been no seven grade so you go out for son tell what you're you give a give a motherfucker no but you want to be a lot of money brad so i don't think i can't i can't i can't tell you how much I appreciate you, man. Well, listen, why you ain't break the NCAA rules and pop me off? Like, what's up? Let's talk about that. Let's talk about that. I ain't had no paper, bro.

I'm just, you know, I'm just getting by, daw. I ain't, I ain't even have it for you, you know what I'm saying? Maybe if you were won a national championship, you know what I'm saying? We could have got right. That's that fake should I be talking about, so. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it's one of those things, bro. You know what I mean?

I knew you was, you know, you was a mail ticket waiting to happen, dog. And I'm happy it happened for you, brother. I'm what I'm saying? I'm happy it happened for you, man. Like, real shit. I know like... I appreciate that, my brother. Man, listen, bro, I got to tell you something about Nick Saber, bro,

because I was thinking about it. I couldn't get it all. Bro, I remember, and maybe you're right, being a number one player in the country and being a 17th player in the country, is a difference. I remember walking in this man office, bro. and Coach Burns

You know, Coach Burns is a little like Heaviset a little bit You know what I'm saying? Coach Burns like Hey coach Want to introduce you to Jarvis Landry receiver

211 class Man this man didn't even address me Damn Man he didn't even address me You lie He asked Coach Burns Why are you late for the meeting

Coach Burns Like I want to introduce you to Jarvis Landry Man this man walked off. Next thing you know, one of the scouts come out. Scout meet me. The scout didn't take me into Coach, Coach Saban office.

Coach Saban was pretty much like, you know, we would love to have you. You know, it's a competitive environment. I know you're committed to LSU. I know it's going to be hard for us to get you out of the backyard. But everything that's at LSU I've built here at LSU, I've built here at LSU. Alabama. And, uh, yeah. And I was just like, man, it don't feel. Yeah, like, what's up, bro? Like, and I, and I left and I left and I left Alabama knowing that I was never going to go to Alabama and that I had to play against these guys. They did the air field to the fire.

Bro, I had to play against these guys. I had to like be on the opposite. side. And again, I probably only won one game against Alabama, which was the game of the century of the year, my freshman year when we went to the national champion, championship, huh? That was what, 11, a 12? That was 12. That was 12. That was 12 by 11, 12. One of the years, we went to the national championship. That team, in my eyes, I know that the 2019 team won the championship, that was, that 11, 12 team was the best team LSU has ever had. We was dogs. We were loaded everywhere. That year, I think, if I'm not mistaken, we average over 35 points a game. It was only one game.

We didn't score, what, two games. We didn't score over 35 points, and that was Alabama 1 and Alabama 2. Yeah. Which I'm still mad about because, bro, could you imagine having a, we had a perfect season. True. Could you imagine having a perfect season and then winning a national championship in New Orleans? in y'all city where y'all from

and y'all state and losing bro people don't talk about that team enough bro we was undefeated I guarantee that 2011 and 12 team probably beat the dog shit out of the 2019 team oh man 100% Morris Claiborne Tyron Matthew

Brandon Taylor bro bro we had animals Sam Montgomery like oh my goodness hey Sam Mr. Super Sanic. Sonic, bro. Yeah, Sonic.

I knew one of those super sad also. Bro, animal, bro. They guys animals, man. Like, loved every last one of them, bro. Like, that was a special year. That year, I only had four catches for 15 yards. But you was a special team guard. No, I was doing my thing on a special team, right?

I was doing my thing on special team. But, like, you know, it's like, I don't think people give that team enough credit because of the 2019 team. And I respect it. I respected, bro. I honestly, I respected. Those guys were sensational. But pound for pound, every position,

Benny Logan, like, every position on the field, like we had a guy. Ruben Randall, like, bro, I couldn't tell you a puzzle piece that we were missing, bro. For sure. It was crazy. So I had to play against Nick Saban, man. I love Nick Saban, bro.

You know, I've even read one of the books and, you know what I'm saying? Like, I love the culture. I love how he coached, bro, but I also felt at the time, and I was a kid, right? I mean, didn't understand much, but at the time I was just like, man, this guy seemed kind of arrogant to me. Yeah. And I was just like, nah, bro, I can't do it. So that was my Alabama story, bro. And I ended up not going to Alabama, man.

Well, you know, sometimes the life, you know. I chose the right school. You're. Sometimes like, you know, you don't, some experience are different. You know, I had a great experience up there Alabama. You're, it wasn't so well. He should have showed me the lake. He should have showed me the lake.

I'd have been, I'd have been in. I'd have been in. Me, ever, me, Calvin Ridley, I might have could have convinced. Oh, to come to, to Bamma. I'd have been in. I'd have been all in. Man. I can't get to see the house of the lake.

I can get a draw to a full by a full. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, huge news? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.

We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember.

I think it was on a call about what we should call it. And, oh, we were thinking, I'm, originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers was... This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this.

We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast where people could call in and say, hey Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Just listen. Don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform?

We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth. He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world,

he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levan this plant to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive?

The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know. Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you. you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines.

We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight. real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. SportsClyce brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to SportsCise on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Speaking of college, Spring football is approaching. Where it started? Yeah, yeah. Spring is here. The boy hit you, how do you fill out Tigers would do? Man, I'm excited to see the quarterback. I'm excited to see how Elaine Kiffin, you know, start integrating that offense,

that running gun. I'm excited to see that, man. I decided to see our receivers get busy. I really want to see some clips. I ain't watched no clips yet, but I really want to see, you know, how them boys getting down. What about you?

What you excited the most about? I want to see Caden, Durham and Harlem and Harlem and Harlem Barry have come out years

standout years No, 27, the running back? 25 or 22. Yeah, he's nice. No, the other one, Durham is number 20, 20...

29. Yeah, yeah, I like him. I like him the most. I want to see them separate their game, you know, evolve, because that's the name of the game being better than last year.

You know, I always, like, even when I go back, at the LSU and tell those guys, like, you know, we got this room with all these great runnerbacks on here. I won't, I will want you guys to be on there. John the Wall of Fame. Right.

Right. And spring is where you kind of, you get a glimpse of where you at, you know? You know, because I don't know how spring is now, but you get tired of going against your teammates, you know. But it's also you preparing yourself, preparation, executioning, standing on point with certain things,

not getting tired of the little thing, I could remember my first time at LSU we had full pads on. Coach, like, yeah, we're not hitting. I'm like, all right, fuck all that. Right? We ran zone to the left. You know, that's all, Coach Miles knows,

zone, zone, zone, zone. Zone left, me and Jamal. He's trying to, he's coming up. Tomorrow had him. She's coming up, slow? Trying to, like, you know, tap off. Yeah. Wow.

Mm-hmm. Feel that. This shit. Feel that. This shit real. Yeah. This ain't, look, everybody. You have Big Lael college going crazy.

Right? Yep. So listen, this how I know Jamal's going to be my best man's in college. Yeah. The same plea. Oh, man, look, the lame.

Oh, I see you. Look, I see it. Look, I'm like, damn. Yeah. Bitch came out of nowhere. Yeah. So ever since that day He got your respect

He got to respect him 100 That's my that's that's I love that You know how you all is Yeah that's me and all Yeah man I love that bro I don't think people also understand how like Competitive we practice

At LSU For sure Like To get your Go big on big every day. You got Linda Farnett and Jamal Adams going head to head. The first day of spring.

My goodness. First day of spring practice. My goodness. That kind of built the brotherhood. And that set the tone and it built the brotherhood for me and him, right? What people don't know, I was the number four pick. I think Jamal went six or seven to the Jets. Yeah.

He went six. but this is a guy that I competed with you know usually the runnerbacks run with the runnerback I ran with the DVs yeah come on Ma like yeah 100% push each other let's go listen we talking this first round shit

let's get there let's get there and I bet not beat you even though I used to beat the fuck out of them balls running sprints the only person the only two people who I didn't beat because they were like one 30th one 40 was

Tradavis white Yeah Trudev is a Dane 140, boy And Dante Jackson Oh, but now He won 40, but that boy fast Hey, man, the boy used to fly

I said you know what, brother, I'm 200-something pounds, right? I'm running, at the time, I was probably running 22, 23 miles per hour. I'm cool with that. Yeah, that's, man, you're flying. What you ran into the combo? You ran a 4-3-9, right? No, no, no, I ran a 4-3-9, right? Also, I was two, I was 240, so I was 240 running that shit.

They wanted me to, they, they wanted me to go five too. So you said you must be? I'm saying. You said, you say you bought to be? I'm you saying like, well, listen, my, you look at my college highlights in the, in the first years in the NFL, burning shit. Ain't nobody catching me. For the longest, for the longest, I had, I held the highest miles per hour for the longest.

Yeah. What was your longest running? What was your longest running in the league? Like 60. 90. 90. You had a 90-yard touchdown? Against the stillers.

Man, let me pull this shit up. Oh, way, boy. It was power to the left. Power to the left. 90-yard touchdown. For us to win the game in the regular season. I swear. You had a lead blocker?

Yes, AJ. AJ can. He pulled from the right, go to the left. sealed off that block, it was over it. My good. This is a playoff game? No, this regular season. I think we'd be like, we'd be like 30-something at night.

Hey, listen. Who them knees up? Here, go. Go. Go. You may, hey, you made, number 28, stop running. He stopped chasing. He knew it was over.

Come on, down. Hey, you know you the guy. You know you the guy after you school. They don't even show you. They show the owner's box. I'm looking at the, I'm looking at the, we made the right decision. We made the right decision. We picked the right back.

We made the right decision. The boys up in that high-fiving. Okay. All the time of shit was going on. High-fiving. Yeah, but you're stupid. Hey, hey, you know what, you know what, you know what, bro? I love seeing this because at that two-minute mark, you must love this as a running back, bro.

When you get to that two-minute mark and you got the lead and you know, you know, they bring everybody to the line to try to stop the run. All you got to do is get past that first wave. One person. And you're gone? Yes. Bro, that got to be a wonderful feeling, bro,

running 90 yards. And you ain't got to juke. You ain't got to do nothing, bro. To seal the game, too. Man, stamp. You kind of selfish, too, bro, because it's go 23 to 9. Yes, yes.

Listen, listen, I've seen my coaches, they kept screaming, Neil! Fuck all that. We're about to, hey, hey, Coach. Listen, we're about to make this shit count. Run it up. Run it off.

Bro, listen, the funniest story about Jacksonville, I didn't know too much about Jacksonville, right? So you know the rookie premier in L.A., right? Yeah. Bro, I swear, there's like, you introduce your team, you, what team is? So I said, you know, brother, they was laughing at me. I'm like, I say Jacksonville, Jaguar, you hear people laughing. Because Dion is my witness, because Dion was out there. I said, y'all laughing.

I sit on the mic, we're going to beat the fuck out everybody in here. And that's exactly what happened. My first year? Yeah, my first year, bro, like, people didn't think we were going to do that, bro. No, y'all went in. What was y'all a record that year? I don't know, 10 and 6. What about to check?

In 20, and what that was? 2017. It had to be 10 and 6, I believe. Man, that's the same. Y'all, y'all was 10 and 6. You won the brine? Y'all won it. the AFC South.

We beat the Browns. I wasn't there. I don't think I was there. No, you wasn't. You wasn't. You wasn't. I was there. I think that's when Jabrero Preppers was there.

Yep. Yeah, Jabriel was there. We beat the Browns that year too. Hey, bro. That's all. Hey, man. Fuck you, my brother. I love Cleveland.

Man, this Pittsburgh game is the same game. You ever seen a clip with Malik Jackson tried to tackle LaVian Bell? And he was like, oh, oh, bro, bro, listen, I ain't never, I ain't, I shook somebody like that before. Yeah. But I ain't never heard nobody say, oh, I ain't never heard that, bro. Hey, hey, hey, Malik, going to see this. Hey, we're going to make this to the clip.

One day coming back from off, you know, I win this season, my rookie year, right? And, you know, I didn't, I didn't show up for anything dealing with the team. You know, I did my own thing, worked out. So, brother, I brought Popeyes for the riggins. I brought, I brought Popeyes for the riggins, right? You're like, man, we hung up. I'm like, shit, I got y'all. Yeah, some papas.

So they leave it. They left the boxes there because we had to heard of go to meetings. So you hear Malik big ass. Man, who the fuck? Who the fuck left all these fucking Popeyes right here? Who the fuck brought this Popeye's in here? So I'm like, shit. I'm like, I'm like, what's that, brother?

I brought it. But, you know, I brought it for the young guy. Like, you know what I said? They said it was on, really. You know, I brought it from. So Malik, tell me, may we clean that shit up. I'm like,

it's a big man. That's a big man. I don't care about none of that shit, boy, I said, hold on. I said, bro,

who the fuck you're talking to? See, I like that, Lenny. You still got, you still had the New Orleans in you. When I mentioned the Jake Paul, Logan Paul stuff,

you're talking about some. Nah, not, it's different. I like that, I like that, I like that, you were fresh out, you were fresh from the city,

just got out the plane. You had it in your heart. Like, ain't nobody going to talk to me. Disrespect me. I ain't turning nothing down. I ain't running from nothing. That's the liny. I need that liny back.

You know what I'm saying? Listen, listen. Protect the assets, of course. But like, come on, bro. It's still in me, but I kind of, I got to close that off a little bit. You know what I'm saying? I have to be, I have to, juice. I cannot be the same man I was eight, ten years ago.

So you're saying you ain't let me leak D-boy. So what happened? So we fussing I said Man you try to fuss you buy some fucking chicken But he said Motherfuckers had one good year And think that

Oh come on bitch We're about to get it on You're talking too much of me now Listen listen Listen listen Either either he swung or I swung And we both miss Kaleh's you know Kaleh's bigger

Hey hey hey hey fellas Yeah yeah yeah Great teammate We're not doing this bro We're not doing this right now. So that's funny. We apologize to each other, but that's some of the minor shit we was going. That was happening in the Jacksonville, Jaguars organization.

My time was there. Man, I love it. But, you know, I play with Malik too out in Cleveland. And, brother, like, he was, he is a dog, bro. Like, funny, funny, kind of quiet, you know what I'm saying? So, man, Malik, a good teammate, too, bro. Definitely is, man. Yeah, yeah.

It's funny you hear in that story that y'all got into it like that. That's funny, bro. That boy, big, too. I ain't going to lie. Yeah, he's a big guy. I ain't going to lie. Man, while we hear, we're talking about spring football. Obviously, Indiana, you know, they did the unthinkable a year ago with the Mendoza kid, right?

Yes. And winning a national championship against a high-powered university of Miami team. They started spring practice. yesterday and a coach came out and said this about one of his transfer players that uh that wore some cleats to the field he said i didn't love those gold gold shoes he came out with today he learned what getting your ass ripped it was all about i don't know if it'll happen i don't know if that happened at michigan state man my thing my question is you think coach being too hard on them or or or land a helmet on or do you feel like uh you know it's the indiana way it's the

who's your way? I feel like it's a standard. You know, he has a standing there. And if you're not one of the guys, the premier guys on that team, you know, because I was blessed to be one of the guys to have cleaks, different colors I can wear. You know, it never was gold, but, you know, sometimes. But is it a big deal? We in spring practice, bro.

Like, like, I can't wear my cleats. I can't wear my cleats that I feel comfortable. Juice, everybody's different. What you mean is cleats. My way or the highway. He's the head coach. Yeah. Listen, look, at this point, whatever he said, go, you know what I'm saying?

He didn't have done something, something unforgettable. Whatever he said, go, I'm sure this is why the Nick Marsh kid transferred to Indiana to be a part of, you know, the legacy and the history of that school now and that coach and that staff. But, you know, man, I guess you got to just wear the white boys, man, or go grab some all-blackies. Respect it. Get your ass on.

Yeah, man. Hey, listen, 59 catch it for 600, 62 yards. If you do decide to hit the road, I know a place in Louisiana. For sure. And where purple and gold. For sure. That are looking for receivers to catch the football. So if you ever change your mind, there's a place for you.

there is a place for you. It might be a place for him, right? But in the NIL world, how would that be structured? Money-wise? Who knows? Listen, you're good enough. There is a place for you. We're going to find a way to make it happen.

I said you a clip earlier today, Ed Ogeron. He said, it used to be hard for us. We used to have to come into the back door. The bag door. Not be coming through the front door with it. he don't figure we there's a place but what was around talking about

LSU or USC it don't matter it don't matter what's done it's done it's done what's done leave our tigers out of this

he had to be talking about one of the mother's Trojans he had to talk about somebody else team he wasn't talking about going on in Ben Rouge leave them boys out of this

man lead them boys out of this man and you know I was special with the cleats, bro. Yeah. You know, I was, I was very special with the cleats, bro. I'm gonna have to bring,

I'm gonna have to, one day I'm gonna have to just, like how OBJ got the vault. Yeah. I'm gonna have to open my little vault, man, and pull out my little swag bag, bro, so,

so I can show the people, you know what I'm saying? When the cleat, really, cleat thing really started, you know, I was, I was a part of that wave.

Oh, this dude here is funny, bro. I'll let you know, bro. I'll let you know. the cobies the mambas the chadwick bozeman the freddy coogers the christmas theme cleats i had i had a cleat with megan a stallion on what i was trying to catch yeah hmm damn man i had a cleat oh man had all kind of stuff bro all kind of stuff going on man but you know i guess if i was playing in indiana it would be possible listen i'm glad you brought that up right i got a

funny ass though. It ain't much funny, bro. I can call my brother right now. I was in high school, right? I called myself wanting to be a man, you know? Yeah. You hear me? Howling at the upper level, you know, upper level when I say, you know, that's the bigger woman. Like, you know, upper level woman. You hear me? Yeah, one and no one. You know, I did my one, two, three, four, five, seven, now ten. Man, that girl had me, that girl had me out for a month. I don't know. I don't know. I They got pulled something in my hip, brother. Oh, I are.

Well, injury reserve. But I couldn't, but run. Oh, my goodness. Yeah, I was, I tried to go to practice in the summertime. I'll probably be like 10 grade in high school, right? We had workouts. Coach, like, man, none of what's wrong? I said, coach, I don't know.

Hey. But I was out for a month, brother. That girl wrote me a girl. I said, where are you at? I'll say nowhere to be fat. You got it, baby. Oh, my God. Can we, can we, can we, can we get a, can we get a, like, a, like, a, you know,

over and under? Like, what was the over and under on this, on this, on this, on this, on this, on this, on this situation? Like, like, was it, was it, was it over 200, under 200? I don't, I don't know. I'm trying to, you know, I think, I think every man has that one in their life, you know. Hey, don't put me in that. man boat. Don't put me in that big

boat. Bro, listen, I'm not sure the size. I mean, I'm a big guy myself, you know? I hear you. She was big to me. Oh, my Lord. Well, you know, opening week, baseball is here. Man, I know, listen, I know you play baseball growing up.

I know you played baseball growing up. I know that was like one of your first love. Yeah. Did you watch the game yesterday, opening day? What was your thoughts on that, man? Like if you could go back and do it again, would you play baseball? I know there's a two-part question, so just... Okay, so I'm answering number one.

Would I go back and choose baseball football? I probably would. Stop the cap. I probably would. Stop the cap. If I would have stuck with it long enough, bro, I would. Stop the cap. I was nice at baseball.

I played shortstopping pitcher. How hard were you throwing a ball? In high school? Yeah. Nah, I was, bro, I was like 85, 86. I wasn't on that. You just throwing about 85 in high school? Yeah.

And what grade was this? 10 grade. But fuck, I am. I'm dead serious. You only threw fast balls? Of course, Joe. It's like, I, duh. You ain't throw no changeups, no curb balls, no sliders?

Listen, listen, I didn't get that. in my career, brother. What the fuck with you? I'm telling you the truth. Fast. All the night I knew is fast. See, you chose the right sport, my man. How? I didn't have the chance to master my craft. I was listening. By 10 grade, by 10th grade, you're fully developed.

By 10 grade. What do you mean? How? I was running track. I had the, I had to harness my football career about, I love football. So I have this hornet's that. I ran track, track and baseballs run the same time. It is the same time. Right.

So if I knew football's going to take me further, I had to harness my motherfucking track career and get fast on that field, which I knew I would probably would have burnt your motherfucking ass. Back then. What? You think you could beat me in a race right now?

Facts. Hey, yes, sir. That same three-leg SEC parlay you put in, that same amount, that 10K? Let's do it. Bet that 10K. I'm with it. I'm with it.

Bet that 10K. You didn't run track, Jarvis? I don't need to run track to run fast. Are you crazy? I don't need to pick them up, put them down. That's it. No, no, no, no. See, that's the, listen.

Listen, don't, do not listen. Any young guy out there, do not listen to what, Jarvis? Landry is saying, football players have to run track. That will separate us. Listen, I watch Armand St. Brown, dad say track gets you 1% faster. And it's nothing like. a dad that's in his kids' lives. So I believe him.

Well, hey, I have a father myself that we have our different beliefs that track made me who I am. So track made you run a full fire. Help you run a full fire. Definitely help me, for sure. The mechanics? That's why you ran that fucking four-seven the first time. You ought to bullshit.

Think you ought to get it. Nah, nah. Slow your motherfucking ass now. Maybe you're right. I ran a track in high school, though. Not for long. I was the third leg of the 4x1. You ran one race?

I was a third leg of the 4x1 and I did a long jump. Brother? I was ass. I ain't going to lie. That's one sport. That's one sport. I ain't going to lie.

My 4x3, I could run that curve now. 4 by 2? That 4 by 1, that 4 by 1. Third leg, you got that curve. It's all. curve left turn neck neck bit shoulder bent leaning

leaning I probably nine times that's that I would have burnt your ass man look we I ran a four by one four by two 200 100 100 champion 100 champion yeah you went to state yes I pulled my hamstring state

oh damn damn put my hammy put my am in state what could or shoulda bam bro you better look go Google my talents bro I ran I was I was 21, something running. That's good to hell. You ain't winning nothing for it.

Imagine doing all that work. What they say? What they say? A million dollar move. Find out of catch. Man, a penny shot. Damn. But guess what?

I can't be mad because it paid up. It got me to be the number one player in the world, Craig. No, 100%. Are you going to put your kids in track? If they want to, bro. That's a hard-ass sport. I quit that shit bar seven times. I'm not going to lie to.

That's a hard-that sport to play. Yeah. It's grueling. But they say if you put them in there at a young age, it's like better for them. Like, it's better because they don't, you know what I mean? Like, they don't know no better at that point,

you know what I'm saying? And they already built up the, you know, the calluses, you know what I'm saying? To be able to do it to do it when they're older, when they start young. Yeah, I think my youngest daughter love, I'm going to put her in her. She's fast at the age she is.

Now she's straight. So I'll definitely have to get her going. You know what I'm saying? You should, bro. I think that's important. That's what you're saying. You're saying it's important. It is.

It is because, you know, naturally, you know what I'm saying? I was hood fast. I ain't really, I didn't need track coming up. I ain't ever tracked out to high school. But I was naturally fast. Yeah. For a big guy, bro. You can do, you can move.

I ain't go a lot. You definitely was a exception to the, to the rules, to gravity. I ain't even going to count to you, bro. I appreciate that, King. I ain't even going to cat to you, my man, my man. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news.

What's the news, name? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts.

We're starting a trend. But this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name, Hey Jonas, guys? I honestly don't remember. I think it was on a call about what we should call it. We were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes.

I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, where people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey, Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL, late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and friends.

Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter. Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and friends on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Jacob Kingston grew up in an isolated polygamous sect. We were God's chosen kingdom on earth.

He felt destined for greatness. So when a swaggering Armenian businessman catapults Jacob into an extraordinary world, he doesn't look back. Ferraris and Lamborghinis, private jets, meeting the president of Turkey. I'm Michelle McPhee, and this is one of the most shocking criminal conspiracies I've ever come across. When Jacob met Levant, this went to a billion dollar fraud. But with two kings from entirely different worlds, just how long can their empire survive? The largest tax investigation in American history. You need to tell me what you know.

Is somebody coming after me? Jacob told Levan, you're ruining my life. Listen to Kingdom of Fraud on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.

Every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear. The laughs, the drama, the triumphs, the moments that never make the highlight real. From viral moments to historic games, from buzzer beaters to controversial calls, we break it down, give you context, and ask the questions everybody wants answered. Sportslice brings you closer to the action with stories told by the people who live them. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

And for more, follow Timbo Slicelife-12 in the TikTok podcast. network on TikTok. I got a hypothetical for you. Okay, go. Talk to me. Since you were throwing 80 in college in high school. Do you think it's harder to hit a 95

mile now fastball? I'll catch a slant route across the middle. Hitting that 95, my brother. I agree. That was a dumb-ass question, honestly. As I was reading it, I should have read it first, bro.

That was a dumbass question. I mean, I've caught a slant and somebody hit me. It's all right. Yeah. But having that real eye for that ball to hit it? Nah. That's different. No, that's different.

That's definitely. That's definitely different. All right, since you're saying, since you're talking about being fast and shit, another baseball hypothetical for you. If you had to be called into a game to pinch run and you had to steal second and third, could you do it? In the major leagues. For sure.

What? For sure. Today. For sure. Jobs Landry, I work out every day. You forgot? You know this? I still run.

I still run every day. That's nothing. I can do that. Man, I think it's about timing. Yo ass is getting picked off. Boy, I ain't going to lie. You thinking, we're out here to steal. We know you fast.

You think we're about to let you just steal bases, game? Joe's, like, I'm being real. You want to get picked off, boy. That's not like running a hundred yards. Oh, 50 yards. I could do that. And 90 feet. Trust me, I know.

I could do that. Man, my grandma said, Lennah, you put your mind until you do it. Fuck it. You know what we need to do, bro? We need to schedule a damn, a damn sports olympic, sports olympic obstacle course. And all these, all these shits that you're saying you could do, bro.

I want to see this, bro. Bro, all the Fourth and South subscribers and Fort this South, Fort this South population community, bro. We want to see this, bro. We want to see all this, man. We want to know that you really steal who you say you is, man. We don't do this because I don't know what your office thing this is, bro. I'm just being honest, man. It sounds like you doubt me, brother, and I don't know, I ain't feeling that, sir.

Man, I ain't dying again. I just want to see it. I just want to see it. We all do. Okay, say that. It ain't even like that, bro. It ain't even like that, bro. How are your head feeling?

Now, I ain't, no league is going on right now. I got the, I got the Lewin, AC, you know, going to all my shit. So I'm cool, I'm cool. Yeah, that's what's in it right now. You read it out of Ben, I had that fucking bush on my head. You hear of it? I love it. I love it.

Trust me. You're going to be the first time me in life. A nigga been bald since he was. Nah, bitch, you're trying to rip. Yeah, you're going on far, I ain't trying to do that with you. You're going for. It's cool, it's cool.

Hey, son. Nah, man. But look, bro, F-1 coming to Miami soon, bro, there's a lot of things going on out here. Yes, Lord! There's F1, there's film festivals,

there's music concerts, bro. What are you the most excited about over the next couple months, man, for the fans, coming, like, are we going to get a fourth and south siding? Are we going to get a Lenny siding? Like, what are you most excited about, man? All of these, all these major, major events happening right here in our backyard, bro.

So what are you most excited about? I'm going to say this, right? I'm going to say this. F1. I am definitely team McLaren. I'm, bro. I am definitely team McLaren. Huh, bro?

Landau and Oscar, you know, one and two drivers. No, we're talking to. The one and two drivers that, bro, just having them on the same team and just knowing either one of those guys can be the number one driver for McLaren and how they battle it out, how they're competing. You know, sometimes I think it adds fuel to the fire, you know.

I don't know what my CEO, Mr. Brown, want to do over that, but he has his hands for. And I'm definitely team of clearing. I just love how they compete. I love how, who doesn't love winners? I love winners. I love that. I love that you like keep up with this, right?

Like, I keep up with it too. And trust me, I didn't watch all the movies. I didn't watch F1. I didn't watch the documentary series. I didn't watch a documentary series on Netflix F1. I didn't watch Ford versus Ferrari. Yeah. I didn't watch them there.

Every racing, you know, movie that's out there. So, you know, this will be my first F1 attendant F1. I'm very excited about it, bro. Like, I don't want to say I have a driver. Obviously, Lewis Hamilton is the guy, man, holding it down for us, you feel me, in the sport. So I'd love to see him, right?

But, man, I'm just going out there to see some high-performing athletes, right? Them boys are athletes, right? They are considered athletes. Definitely. I mean, not just drivers. they'll consider athletes. They're definitely athletes, right?

I think what's unique about those guys, the fast twitch muscles they have to evade certain wrecks. That recognition. Bro, they got it, bro. The hand-eye coordination is insane, bro. You know what's crazy, you say that. I just watched a clip where there was like a wreck in the tunnel, and the guy turned the corner, and he just whoop-whoop,

and he ain't even. I was like, damn. No breaks, no budget. That could have been bad. Reaction is immaculate. Man, immaculate, bro. Man, well, look, I know the fans going to be excited to see you out there,

excited to see us out there, represent for a fourth and south, man. Fourth and the South will be at F1 this year. I'm excited, baby. Can I wait? Listen, listen, listen, this is my dream. My dream is hopefully McClaren gives me a McLaren. Mm. man don't be selfish

don't be selfish don't be selfish we're gonna share it we gonna share it I'm not gonna ship it to the crib I'm gonna keep it in Miami at your house right all right just whenever I come in town on that weekend I need it yeah of course it'll be it filled up

so we did a we need a fort we need a fourth that South McLaren collab with the McLaren car purple outside gold gold sea yellow seas so no, we can't do that job. I mean, I would love to do it.

But, you know, McLaren is orange, right? So it's like, we have to resemble our culture and obviously their culture. So I don't... I mean, their culture is on the logo. I know, but I don't know, I don't know if purple and orange go together. That's, that's, you know, I mean, we get the,

we get the bricks, orange. And they make McClarence all colors, bro. They do. I know, but it's a force of... You just want the McClearners. You want like the Ferrari red? You want the McClellan. I understand.

I respect that. That Cleveland Brown thing, you know what I'm saying? We can put some brown rims on there, something you know what you're saying? Nah, no, no. We ain't, we ain't doing that. We ain't doing that. Yeah, you know, it's your car. I just want to drop it.

We're not doing that. But listen, before we exit out, can we talk about Joe Flacko wanting to be the QB1? Do you think he still has it? I don't blame him. I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, blame him. I'm pulling up. He says something in the press conference. They ask him, do he feel like he should be, you know, a starting quarterback in the NFL? And that man, he didn't even breathe. Ain't flinch. Yes. I should be on somebody team right now.

Right now. I should not be a backup to Joe Burrow. I should be somewhere out in this, in this league being a quarterback. I'm going to tell you right now, I'm going to tell you right now, going through the top 15 people, and I don't see a job for him. You're so fucking stupid. Hold on, I'm sorry. This fucking church, I used to fucking double G4 on this, bitch.

Hey, hey, you know what? I might have found a job for him. I might have found a job for him in New Orleans. New Orleans and number, let's see, who else they got on here? Yeah, New Orleans. That's about the only job I can see for this guy, man.

That's the only job I see. that's out there. Or maybe the Atlanta Falcons. Listen, bro. They're going to need a right-handed quarterback on their roster. Listen, listen, we're leaving the lefties long today, bro. All right? We're going to leave the left-season.

Mark my words. They're going to have a right-handed quarterback on their roster if not damn near starting for most of the season or toward the end of the season. Mark my words. Y'all heard it first. Y'all heard of Marcus words. Quick question.

Joe Flacco better than Jacoby Brissette? I think they kind of resemble each other because Jacoby is not a running, a scrambling quarterback, he's more than a pocket guy. I mean, when Joe came in, he did his thing, though. He definitely did. That's what I'm asking.

I don't know. You know, Calamari left Arizona. They're expecting Jacobi Brisset to take over that role and be the leading quarterback. I'm looking at their numbers. Joe Flacco played 13 games, 63% completion rate,

2,479 passing yards, 15 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. Jacoby Brissette in 14 games had a 64.9 completion rate, 3,366 yards, 23 touchdowns, and 8 interceptions.

We're going to leave that in the hell. I don't know. I mean, I'm just looking at the numbers, and I don't know, man. Joe Flackle, I think he's a great player, but, you know, maybe my man just won a chance to compete. That's still that dog game. That's why. He wants to compete. He wants to go like a warrior, man.

I agree, bro. He said he got something to prove. He said he still got something to prove. He said, I'm here because I still got something to prove. I love that shit. I love that shit. I don't blame me, Joe, bro. You're 18 for Joe.

Go flacco, bro. Go do you, Joe, baby. Go do you. You're 18. Joe Flacco. Damn, I was, I was, what, 12 years old when the man went into the league, man. That is crazy. And this man, like, I love it.

He is the epitome of To the Wheels Fall Off. Definitely is. Before we end the show, man, you know, I love, you know, as you know, collectibles, you know, I'm a big Pokemon guy. How can I get Mr. Juice Jarvis Landry into that world? Or are you even interested in, you know, ripping some packs and finding some good cards? I'd be down to rip some packs, bro. But somebody got to like, tell me what it, you know what I mean?

Like, what's happening? Yeah, we definitely have a guy there, you know, an expert to tell us what we pick and what we got. And actually, we can auction it off to either, you know, send it off to TCG or PSA to get it gritted. And we might have a gold mine, man. Man, I'll be down for that. I honestly will be down for that.

I ain't never really was into it to it too much. But I know my kids are. I know you are. I'll be willing to, you know, open a couple packs, man. Get some exclusive things in there. You know, maybe then sell it, donated to charity or something like that. I'll be kind of dope. Yeah.

I'll hold on to it until, you know, you know, you've seen Charzard sold for $16 million dollars. Man, what? Hey, I swear. Charizard. So they got an ultra rare charge. What was it called?

What? Charlesard. I think, I think it was Japanese. I think, who sold it? Logan Paul sold it. For $16 million?

$16 million? $16 million, my brother. Man. Man, bro, man, why do we choose to play football, bro? We could have just been collecting cards. Put our body through all this stress of our mind. We could have been collecting cards. And honestly, I'm going to tell you the truth.

This is why I believe we should talk more about F1, right? Because not every person could be a football, a professional football player, or artists, or a rapper, whatever the case may be. maybe you just love driving. That's true. Yeah, so you never know. We open up some gates for you guys to be F1 drivers or, you know, either try to see what out there for you. Didn't with F1, didn't with a car.

So, yeah, like open your mind. For sure. No, I respect that. I respect that, you know. And sometimes, you know, it take people like you, bro, like getting people like me, you know, to experience things for the first time. And you never know, bro. I might really enjoy it. I might, you know, really love.

But listen, if we find a $16 million card, I'm just going to let us know right now. Talk to me. The McLaren is mine. So, hold on, hold on. You can't split the 16? Huh? Man, look, I'm going to throw you a little stuff. I ain't going to play it like that.

I ain't going to play it like that. You know, I'm a French or something. You hear of me? Ain't even no question about it. You hear me? If it's 16, it will 8-8. If it's my card? But then you can't.

Nah, now, see, see, that's the shit I be talking about with you. Nah, so you're wild. Hey, that's some trifling shit that you're trying to do right now, bro. That's crazy, bro. We go, listen, that's like, we're splitting it. Brother, I'm the reason you started all this shit. Why don't try to, no, we're going to fall out, so don't do that, sir. Damn, no, no, not about no card.

No, fuck the car. We're about money right now. Oh, my God. Boy, get on my damn, get off this shit, right? Sports and South, baby. We appreciate y'all. We out, man. Good luck surviving the offseason football fans.

At first I was afraid. I was betrified. Football's over. It's like a part of me just died inside. 200 days till football's back. But tonight I won't just cry because I've got a waste to play. And that's the place with hard rock bed. I will survive.

Offered by a seminal tribe of Florida. There must be 21 plus and physically present in Florida to wage your terms of conditions apply. If you are someone you know as a family problem, please call 1-833 Playwise. Hey, guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick.

And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. Nice. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We get to ask other people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because we're sick and tired of being asked questions.

Well, sick and tired is a strong way to put it. But, you know, tired and sick. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Just listen. We don't care where you hear it. Another podcast from some SNL late-night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smygel and Friends.

Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer, Streeter Seidel, help an a cappella band with their between songs banter. Where does your group perform? We do some retirement homes. Those people are starving for banter.

Listen to humor me with Robert Smigel and Friends on the I Heart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Winning on Clay is an art. The rallies are relentless. And at the French Open, only the toughest survive. I'd know. I competed there for decades.

Join me, Renee Stubbs, on the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast for no nonsense breakdowns of the biggest matches, the toughest players, and the moments that define Roland Garris. She's an outsider to win the French fame. And she likes Clay. Listen, Lina Rubakina is arguably the best player in the world right now. And I actually can win on any surface. Listen to the Renee Stubbs tennis podcast on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of IHeart Women's Sports. Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque. Others say it's unleashing human potential. Either way, the podcast's Superhuman documented it all, embedded in the games and with the athletes for a full year.

Within probably 10 days, I'd put on 10 pounds. I was having trouble stopping the muscle growth. Listen to Superhuman on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.