The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 4th and South - Jarvis Landry & Leonard Fournette REACT to NFL free agency & DEBATE Dolphins downfall | 4th & South
Episode Date: March 18, 2026NFL superstars and LSU legends Jarvis Landry and Leonard Fournette sit down for an honest, unflinching conversation about the latest headlines shaking up the NFL. Lenny and Juice react to Raheem Moste...rt's comments on former Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel, discuss the Atlanta Falcons new QB battle between Tua Tagovailoa and Michael Penix Jr., and break down the chaos in Minnesota as Kyler Murray heads to the Minnesota Vikings to compete with third year quarterback J.J. McCarthy. The duo also reflect on Odell Beckham Jr.'s time with the LSU Tigers and make their Final Four predictions for March Madness. All lines provided by @hardrockbet See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I'm trying to be in full uniform.
Let's talk about, they had a comment that was passed about one of the coaches with
the head coach in Miami.
Yeah, let's pull this up.
Let's pull this up.
I think it was Rahim Mozart.
He said, he said, I need somebody tough that's going to lay the hammer down.
when it needs to be down and tug on players to get in line.
Mozart continued.
When you don't have that, the impact can definitely be detrimental.
He said that on, I think I'm on the Colin Carlhurst show.
How do you feel about that?
Do you feel like, you know, that was the downfall of the Miami Dolphins first?
First, we'll get into that.
Do you feel like that was the downfall of the Miami Dolphins?
The coaching staff, the culture?
I believe so, the culture.
I think it worked this first year there.
Obviously, it was winning.
The record speaks for itself.
I think they was having fun,
but, you know,
once you get too comfortable with the players,
it takes away the integrity of everything,
you know,
and I think that's kind of what he did.
He had a laid-back chill demeanor.
You know, he didn't seem hard-nosed.
He didn't see him hard-nosed.
He didn't see a type of coach to, you know,
curse your ass out when you're wrong when you're doing this.
So, I mean, I wasn't there.
I mean, you could tell me your input, how you feel about it.
No, but my question would be like, you know,
isn't that natural, right?
When I think they brought most of the same players back
from the following year, right?
So, you know, we would be a little bit more casual opposed to like, because I know you now, you know, me and I know what makes Leonard go.
I know what makes, you know, this other guy go, you know, why would I, you know, change how I'm handling these relationships, right?
If anything, it grows sort of better.
So it's, it's tough to see.
Do you think it's tough to see that, you know, these guys wanted one thing and was getting something different?
I mean, I don't know.
I mean, if it works, him being lead back and y'all winning, you know.
They won last year.
They won the prior year before.
So there's no complaints, but you know how I go when you start losing, you know,
and that shit starts sinking way downhill.
They got to point the figure on him, point the figure at him, point the figure at him.
But me, I just feel like I'm the type of person, you know, I wouldn't throw my coach under the bus.
Right.
I think that's what it.
Clearly.
He didn't, and they threw you under the bus.
True, true.
And I also, I really feel like.
as a player, you have to hold your team to a certain standard.
Right?
The coach, I mean, we're not in college.
We're not in high school.
We're professionals.
Right.
So the type of player I am, I would take it upon myself to go check my teammates, right?
100%.
Like, and that's something, I've been coached hard my entire life, too.
So it's kind of something we were brought up in in Louisiana, hard-nosed football down, deep in the south.
Yep.
You're six and seven years old, you know, I can't remember, like, playing against.
I played for Huntersfield back in, you know,
if there was no Huntersfields in my hood, the Seven War.
And I went and played for another team called Goretti, Saints, and New Orleans East.
And my first time ever dealing with misdirection, right?
Yep.
He heard, the ball going on here.
I'm like, damn, like, there's all type of shit going on.
So I'm very confused.
But at six and seven years old, you got my daddy telling me, like,
man, get your fucking shit together.
Right.
So that was instilled in me.
So it's nothing a coach could tell me going forward that can,
soft in my feelings make me feel away.
You know what I'm saying?
I think a lot of those guys didn't have that growing up.
Right.
So you're saying it doesn't matter what type of coach it is, right?
It could be a layback coach.
It could be a strict coach, a laydown the hammer type of coach.
I'm going to do my job.
100%.
And I'm going to make sure the guys that we're playing with and four do their job, right?
And like I go back to like a tough coach.
I had BA.
B.A. was a tough coach.
With Bruce Arias.
Yes.
He was a tough coach.
So I can remember we play against the pan.
I wasn't playing as much, my first year in Tampa.
So I'm frustrated, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I think I carried a ball four times.
You know, we came on a plane.
He's like, he's like, what's the problem?
You know, we had the real math.
I said, coach, you got me fucked up.
Like, you brought me here?
For what?
You got me sitting behind Rojo as Ronald Jones.
I'm like, man, I'm not seeing a field.
Of course he had the high hand.
You know, he's breaking 80-yard touchdowns, nine of y' yards touchdowns.
And he told me they straight up.
Leonard, you're a great talent.
You see what we have here?
I want you to be here.
But if you don't want to be here, then you choose.
All right, we can get you gone.
Yeah, you choose.
He said, I'm not going to make that decision for you.
Yeah.
But you have to make it.
So he gave me until the playing ride home was, you know what I'm saying?
We got back to town.
But I was mad at the fuck, bro.
You know, headphones, headphones on my ear, head down, you know, crying.
Like, you know, I wasn't used to put in that position of not playing.
Like, I've been a thought of my whole life, but he wound up being one of the best coaches I've had, you know?
And would you say that was because he was being honest with you or, you know.
Being truthful.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, and that's the problem in that business.
Like, it's so many people that that's fake, you know what I'm saying, and scared to hurt your feelings.
Yeah.
And we've grown in.
Yeah.
Say it what you, say it with your chest.
Yeah.
No, I think also, like, based on a comment that, that Rahim gave, I think it answers the question of, like,
what was the problem with the Miami Dolphins, you know, for throughout this little error, right?
People couldn't figure out how they had the talent, right?
But it goes to show you that the problem is also a culture problem, right?
To me, this tells me they didn't have enough leaders in the locker room, right?
If we're depending on the coach to lay the hammer down and be this tough presence around the team,
it tells me that they didn't have enough leaders inside of the organization, you know what I mean?
and I think great teams and great players,
they put that on themselves, right?
They lean into, you know, being the extension of the coach, right?
The coach is really there to create an environment
for people to feel comfortable under pressure, right?
Like, I'm not saying the coach is not going to hold you accountable,
but the coach shouldn't have to yell, right?
At all we grown men.
Man, grown men, if you look at, honestly, bro,
if you look at some of our great coaches that we all love and respect, right?
I wonder if Rahim Mozart would say this if he was playing for Andy Reid.
Andy Reno seemed like he a coach that's yelling and, you know, he holds you accountable,
get the job done us, his next man up, you know what I mean?
Like, you know, I wonder if that's, you know, if those comments, these comments will still
be said, you know, I think that during our time, well, my time at LSU, I played with so many
guys, right, that Coach Miles was a great coach, he was a great presence, right?
He was a great teacher as well, right?
Frank Wilson was a part of that staff, right?
One of my favorite coaches at the time as well,
Coach Adam Henry,
joined the staff.
Coach Henry, right?
You know what I mean?
And Frank was a,
Frank was definitely a laid-on-the-hammer guy, right?
But as much so, like Frank also wanted you to go out there and play free
and be you and be yourself, right?
So I think there's something to be said by coaches and leaders in the locker room, right?
Like, guys, think about this, right?
If you're creating an environment that people have to walk on eggshells, you know what I mean?
It's not fun.
It's probably not a good environment, right?
So, you know, playing at LSU, I played with guys like Kelvin Shepard, Russell Shepard, you know.
Dogs.
Man, animals.
J.C. Copeland, you know, Jeremy Hill, Odell Beckham, guys that, you know, called it how they saw it, right?
Tyron Matthew, you know, guys that when we were practicing, you know, at the practice facility, not the practice.
facility, they're still calling it how it is, guys that worked extremely hard.
They didn't need a coach or some type of presence to go out there and take pride in what they
did, right?
And I think that that's, you know, hopefully something that the dolphins hope can get answered
in these new guys that they're bringing in, this new culture that they're developing.
Because it plays a lot into any organization, not just football, you know, family, family stuff,
life, you know what I mean?
Like, as a leader, man, you have to kind of create a better work environment.
man like we all have the one goal here right it's to win and that's to win man so um i don't know man
i don't know outside of that man who uh who else have you played for that you know you could say what
about tie bowes you played for did you play for tall bowes a little bit yeah tie bow was more of a
defensive guy you know he didn't he didn't talk to he didn't talk to the offense i love defensive
coaches for that reason i mean but his his demeanor and how he ran a team and things like that
And he's quiet.
Yeah.
He's very quiet, right?
He has voiced opinion here and there, but Coach Bulls is a laidback coach.
Yeah.
You know, you know also like somebody that I kind of like always wanted to play for because of their demeanor was like Coach Tomlin.
Yeah.
Like I feel like Coach Tomlin has like the perfect balance of like, you know, holding people accountable and like, bro, just go out there and win the rep.
You know what I mean?
And I think that that's what a lot of players need.
You know what I mean?
I also hate seeing, you know, young guys come into the league, right?
And they coaches on them, like laying the hammer down on them, right?
And it kills the confidence.
For sure.
It destroys, you know, the confidence they have out there to go out there and just play free
to do the things that they did to get them to this point.
You know what I mean?
So do you think that's from, you know, I guess the head coach kind of on them
about, you know, running their routes at certain depths, you know what I'm saying?
because when you put new coaches in and new staff together,
you know, the rules kind of change and dictate,
I guess they want their structure around how they want their players to be.
Listen, listen, I'm good with details.
Like, I'm good with, you know, hey, it's two yards from the numbers.
You know, it's at 12 yards.
The route is at 12 yards, you know, or for you is, you know,
agap to expand, whatever it is, right?
You know, your target is this person on, if the Mike 54, whatever, you know?
Yeah.
I'm good with those details, right?
But I think that at some point, you got to let the guys go out there and play.
For sure.
Right?
You know, and I don't know if that's something that most coaches possess, right?
And it's also letting your position coach coach, right?
Like, maybe in most cases, for a lot of us, a lot of players, you probably have a better
relationship with your position coach than you do with your head coach, right?
Yeah, because people don't understand the NFL, the head coach is more like,
your therapist.
Yeah.
It's like a presence.
He's like a presence.
He's like a presence, right?
And when things are not going right,
that's when you go talk to him.
Like, coach, I see this this way.
And that's really what his job is.
His job is the 53-man roster.
If you have, you know, issues going on outside of football,
that's who you talk to.
Issues with football, that's who you talk to too.
But he's also going to let you know if, you know,
man, listen, you're not doing this right.
That's why you're not playing.
100%.
Right?
And I also going back with the young guy.
I also feel like, even with the young guys, right, sometimes you have to let them go out
to and make mistakes and play.
Don't be on the ass.
When you do that, that's when they're not playing 100%.
You know, they're in the middle of the route thinking, thinking too much, playing slow.
And that's how you fucking around and get hurt.
100%.
You know what I'm saying?
So, I mean, this whole second we just talked about was great.
People needed hit us from great football minds.
Yeah, no.
And you hit another point, too.
it's like playing fast like requires you you know being confident and comfortable right in your
position and again that's where the coaching happens in the beginning of that is throughout the
details giving you look this is your assignment you know the snap count is this this is where you need
to be this is with coverage you should be trying to recognize this is when you're going to get
the ball you're the second option you're the first option you want a one b whatever it is right
and then from there it's like i have to release you man like i have to like i have to like
Like I have to like let you go out there and play.
You know what I mean?
Like I can't be on the sideline and you're scanning the defense and I'm out there.
Leonard, Leonard, run hard.
Leonard, you got 50.
You know what I mean?
Like I can't get, I can't.
Hey, bro, I'm glad you said that because now I'm thinking of all the coaches I had a position coach.
They all play ball.
100%.
Right?
That's a key.
Are you the type of player, your coach have to play ball or he's just a coach that can just, you know,
just come out and teach it.
Because, like, I've had my different interactions with things like that, right?
I had Tyrone Wheatley, Todd McNair, I had Terry Robesky.
I had guys who played, you know, Taran Wheeler was the guy in Michigan.
Yep.
You know, T-Mack, Ty McNeff, McNeff, and Temple, Robisky, LSU.
So they played.
So it's like they understood me as a player.
When I was coming from and outside of football, the issues and everything I was dealing with
being a high drive pick knowing I had to turn this whole fucking organization around and
I had to come in and learn this shit ASAP, right?
So are you the type of player that can, you know, take coaching from a coach that didn't play?
Because I know we had a wide receiver coach in Tampa, right?
He was trying to teach AB how to run a route, a slant.
AB said, bro, I'm fucking AB.
Like, so I'm like, I'm like, damn, it makes sense.
Yeah.
But it's like, he was a, but he was a.
great-ass coach.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know what?
I wouldn't tell it.
I wouldn't say that to the coach.
I wouldn't say that to the coach.
But, you know, I, again, like, I think, you know, there is a balance to being out there and having an understanding of, like, man, like, I'm actually in the fire.
Like, the bullets are actually flying around me, right?
You know what I mean?
So, and I say that with respect to coaches that have come up as disciples under other coaches, right?
For sure.
That doesn't mean somebody can't learn the game or know the game or be able to coach it.
technique, you know, are fundamentals.
But I will say, like, you know, being coached by Adam Henry, a guy who played the
game, you know, it's, he has a different outlook, a different thought process.
Right, he's funny as shit.
But he's a great coach.
Like, not only can he teach you the fundamentals of the game and the details of the game,
but he could also, hey, hey, keep in mind that, you know, this space on third down may be
a little bit more vacant.
So, you know, go talk to Baker because if it is, you know, maybe y'all can, you know,
work something out, you know, easy way to get the ball.
You know, it's like things like that where a coach that hasn't played the game,
he's like, just running the route and just keep on going up in there.
You know what I mean?
Where I'm running into getting covered opposed to like being open.
And it also depends on the play.
But at the same time, you know, I don't have a preference.
I think regardless of I'm getting coached by a guy that played the game at a high level
or a guy that, you know, never played the game and just a student of the game,
I'm going to still approach my craft.
same way. I'm still going to ask the same amount of questions. I'm still, I still want to open a line
of communication up with the quarterback, whoever that is. Like, hey, look, I know this on third down.
This spot is vacant. You know what I mean? I'm going to bring. I'm going to sit right there.
Yeah, I'm thinking about sitting right there on this play, you know, once we get the game playing,
right? And just get his thoughts and then go out there and practice it, right? For sure, man. Shout out,
Coach Henry, man. He's my special team's, kick return coach, my freshman at LSU.
Really? Yeah. Man, that's what's up, man. But listen, bro, coach,
Every dog is a dog.
I remember having a coach at LSU, Billy Gonzalez, right?
And he was very much like in your face, grab your face mask, screaming at you.
And I was just like, man, like, I don't really, like, need that to, like, be motivated.
You know what I mean?
Like, I messed up.
You know what I mean?
Like, coach me, like, tell me what I did wrong and let's move on.
And then I had a coach the next year named Adam Henry, right?
And Adam Harry comes in from the end.
NFL, right? And he's more laid back, but he's still on the details, you know what I mean?
And he had a better approach with how to coach myself, Odell, man, whoever, Kedron Boone,
James Wright in that room, a lot of good receivers, right, to be able to be like, yo, like,
hey, if you want to get on the field, guys, you got to be in your split, period. You know what I
mean? Like, you know, like, those are things where, you know, I think it made a difference in my
career of learning from someone like that because I was able to sit back.
and learn and trust, you know, myself, trust him,
and learning the game as a receiver, you know what I mean?
And even then, like, I had a coach team act,
special teams coach, right?
My first year, my first year, my freshman year at LSU,
I didn't play that much on offense.
I think I had four catches for 15 yards, right?
And then, but I had like 20 tackles, 30 tackles.
Listen, as a recruiter at that time,
you see 80 flying.
on kickoff.
Listen, this before we had
like the concussion protocol
hand first, smacking shit.
Bro, listen, bro.
Listen, but again, bro,
he demanded something out of us
to be great, bro,
and do our 111.
And he was a tough-ass coach, right?
Mind you, we had our kind of,
at that time, we had, you know,
the starburst formation,
all of these different kick-off things
that we were doing at the time
that was allowing players like myself
to be successful on special teams, right?
So, like, we had details.
He had to coach us up.
You know what I mean?
But at the same time, it was like, one Saturday came, he was like, bro, go kick somebody
ass.
You know what I mean?
And that's the part of it all where I'm like, you know, as coaches, I think y'all could,
you know, more coaches could take pages out of that book where it's like, man, look,
get your guy to game day, coach them as hard as you want to get them the game and then release them,
man.
And then on the next day or whenever you watch film, make the corrections.
If the guy can't get it correct, then it seems like you need to find somebody else
at that position if you could make a replacement, right?
A hundred percent.
But if not, man, like, you don't need to be screaming at players all day to get them
to have pride in what they doing, man, or how they show up for their teammates or for their
brothers, you know what I mean, or for the colors that they're wearing, a name that's
on the back of their jersey.
Like, they got to have that shit themselves, man.
So, you know, I think Rahim Morser is a good player.
I don't fully, you know all the context of what happened at the Dolphins.
But at the same time, man, I don't need nobody to tell me to show up and be great, man.
Like, you got to have that shit in you.
Listen, that's the Louisiana shit.
Man, you got to have that shit in you.
Hey, hey, hey.
I'm like, man.
You got to have that shit in you, bro.
That's your home bread, man.
Man, 100%, man.
Man, but why are we on this coaches, man?
Why are we on this line of coaches?
Outside of the Bruce Ariens,
Todd Bowes, any other coach out there
that you would have wanted to play for?
I'm not about it.
I don't know his name,
and I know he coached you,
the coach at the Browns.
Kevin Stefanski.
Oh, Hugh Jackson?
No, no, no.
I love Coach Hugh.
You, man, Coach Hugh was.
Coach, man, I wish we'd have longer.
Honestly, I wish we'd had a longer period of time together.
Bro.
Kelschew was the coolest dude ever late.
Still discipline.
And he knew football.
Bro.
Bro.
He knew things about every position, bro.
And, you know, picking on the coach, what's his name again?
Kevin Stefanski.
That shit bothers me, right?
You know, even the shit he had gone on with your door.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
If you have a guy there that could be your franchise maker,
that can change the organization.
you know, and I'm not sure what was going on in his brain
or why he didn't want to play him or whatever, whatever the case maybe.
It doesn't matter.
But I have a problem with coaches like that.
Like to me, his resume is not good to me at all.
Just being real.
Yeah.
And he gets another shot at coaching where, you know,
it was guys like me and you who have great-ass resumes, right?
And didn't get another shot or not playing at all.
So when I see shit like that, man, that shit has me, had me hot.
Yeah.
So he would definitely be one of those coaches I would not ever want to play for.
Ever.
Ever.
Man, I would say, you know what?
I would say like being in Cleveland and playing there, you know, he was cool to be around.
It just, it's like you say, it just almost felt like, you know, as much as he knew what he was doing.
right he really maybe didn't right and i and i think that like sometimes you know
some of these coaches or most of these coaches get put in a position too soon right you know
they have success as a position coach right and then they get thrown into this head coach and
where you know you expect some most of these coaches that's younger to be more personable right
more relatable with with their players and in most cases it just doesn't
and work out that way, right?
And I know, like, my time in Cleveland,
especially in the beginning, man,
it was great.
Like, he didn't know when the coach of the year.
You know, we ended up going to the playoffs.
And then, for some reason, then after, bro,
it just kind of felt like, you know,
the spark between our,
the connection between the players and the coaches,
just kind of started to dim out, right?
I don't know, I don't know if he'd be a great coach in the league, right?
But I do think he knows a lot about offense, right?
I think, you know, he, I don't know how much he is involved into the analytical side of things,
but I know in Cleveland that was a huge part.
So, you know, I think that played a part in some of the decisions that he might have been forced to make,
even with the Shadorers-Sanders thing, right, either forced to make or persuaded to make, you know what I mean?
But we'll see, right?
Last year in Cleveland, you know, he's a coach of the year.
I think he's two-time coach of the year, if I'm not mistaken.
And so, you know, Atlanta will be another good indicator about, you know,
where his, you know, coaching career is headed, you know,
because that team as well is a team that's struggling,
need to find somebody to fill that head coaching position and that quarterback position, too.
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Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
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This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
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Speaking of quarterback position, right?
I know we wasn't, last episode, it wasn't big on tour, you know, finding another job.
But it happens, Atlanta Falcons, picked them up.
Yep.
How you think they work out from, and, you know, and I think it's very, it's going to be very strange, you know,
two left-hand quarterbacks competing.
You know, you have Michael Pinnock's, you know, you have him.
My personal thoughts, I'm not sure.
You know, in my mind, it's still young.
Two young quarterbacks competing.
Man, listen, I'm going to say it.
Matt Ryan, bro.
What's up, man?
Man, what's up, man?
Listen, if you look at the history of the NFL,
the last time a left-handed quarterback won anything.
A Super Bowl, let's say a Super Bowl.
Let's say a Super Bowl.
He was throwing to this guy that I'm wearing his jersey on.
Right.
And we know how long ago that was, right?
Definitely.
And then outside of that, you got Mike Vic.
Yeah.
That played in Atlanta.
Do any of these guys give you a speck, a split of Mike Vic?
I don't know.
You asked me or you asked him that right.
I'm asking you.
Nah.
Right.
So what are we doing?
Not only that, when you bring in a left-handed quarterback for y'all who don't know,
your whole offense changes.
Instead of paying your left tackle.
Now you got to pay the right tackle.
The ball's coming out crazy.
It's different.
You know, might drop that motherfucker.
Man, no.
Hey, listen, you get paid.
Now you're going to be on the bench.
But I'm saying, it's different, though.
Yeah, it's different.
It's different.
But at the same time, it's like there's no one that is winning championships that are
their, their football team around left-handed quarterbacks.
And again, prove me wrong.
Definitely.
But I don't think it's happening for at least another decade.
Damn, that's strong.
Huh?
That's strong.
Man, parents, if you're raising a left-handed quarterback, man.
So you're going to say, what's the switch them?
If you have time.
What's the word?
What is the word?
Amidextrous.
Oh, yeah.
Big ass weird.
But listen, man, listen, I just, I just feel like, again, if you look at the history of NFL football,
typically the amount of success that our offense or team has is not based on, it's solely based on a quarterback.
And most of those quarterbacks are right-handed.
For sure, for sure.
A right-handed, bro.
Building a team around a left-handed quarterback is, right-handed.
a minefield.
So we're going to end it with this.
Do you think Atlanta has a chance to win in their division?
I do not.
I don't think they have the chance to win in their division
because all three other quarterbacks in the division is right-handed.
You left-handed?
No, I'm talking about.
Yeah.
I play receiver.
Are you being biased?
I threw the ball a few times.
I threw the ball a few times.
I don't know if I got an incomplete pass or not.
Are you four-for-four?
I'm like six for six.
Oh, my bad.
Yeah, 100%.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I think me, Sunu, me and Sunu were like the only two non-quarterback positions that has thrown the ball in the games, like it has like a higher passing rate.
Because I was trying to see if you're trying to be biased or, you know, are you downing yourself because you're all left-handed.
No, but I look, I picked the right position, obviously.
You know what I'm saying?
I just feel like being a left-handed quarterback, I just don't see it being the thing that gets your team over.
a hump and you know in that division like you were you asking you got Bryce young who in
Carolina where they turned it up last year toward the end of the year they gave the Rams a
fight you know obviously they would have saw the Seahawks and still lost right but but they gave
the Rams a fight I think that game went to overtime you go to Tampa Bay where you know
Baker Mayfield is there who's coming into his own right love it love it love it I love it um Saints Tyler
Saints, Tyler, you have a young guy, right?
They just brought in some backfield help to manage the game.
It'll be interesting to see, you know, but I still think Carolina, Tampa Bay,
walk away with that division easily.
Yeah, so, man, you're at home, man.
Pray for the leftists.
Just pray for the leftist.
Man, it's nothing against it.
It's nothing against left-handed quarterbackers.
I just think that the translation, if you watch the leap that happens, you know,
from, you know, college to NFL, you don't see it.
Yeah.
You don't see it.
You know what I mean?
And again, I'm down.
We're, we're, us as foot this out.
We're down to be proven wrong.
Like, prove us wrong, please.
You know what I mean?
But I just don't think that, uh, Matt Ryan, man.
Come on, dog.
I don't know, bro.
As an Atlanta Falcon fan, you got the A on your head up the, as a as a, as a.
Yeah, I'm a lonely one because of the flames and shit.
Right.
But as Atlanta Falcons fan, man, I'm sure, I'm sure there's a lot of Atlantic Falcons fans out there that's,
that's highly confused, right?
And not only that, man, you bring in, you got two guys at that position that, you know, have tons of injuries.
Yeah.
A ton of a long list of injury history.
Should they bring in a vet to help them?
Maybe that's the plan.
Yeah.
Maybe that's, hopefully we get a Matt Ryan out of retirement.
Who knows, right?
But if that's the case, you know, you let Kirk Cousins walk out the door, right?
I understand the cap the numbers and this and that, right?
But, you know, I don't know who else is out there that they could bring in.
They lost their chance with collar, right?
And, you know, I just don't feel like it's a situation that's looking too good.
Maybe they start younger again, but I don't know.
I don't have any ties to Atlanta.
I just know that, you know, at the quarterback position.
Speaking of Kyler, you brought up Kyler's name just now, right?
Minnesota.
Love it.
Does he wins QB1 from JJ?
I definitely think so.
Yeah.
I definitely think so.
I think what we see as for quarterbacks out there, you know, you see, you see like the situation changes their, like, careers, right?
Definitely.
You know.
It revamps them.
Yeah, 100%.
Sam Dono is a great, it's a great, he's like the proto, like prototype for that.
He's the poster child, poster boy for that, right?
I think the biggest thing for me, I would ask you, you know, knowing what I know about Minnesota's offense and how do you like to operate from under center, right?
Do you feel like that is a detriment to their team now
and they may have to make some offensive decisions
about their strategies based on college, you know,
height, stature, and things like that?
I believe so.
I believe he's not used to going on in the center.
Everything without a shotgun.
You know, he's come from a spread offense.
And it's like, it depends.
Like, what a center, you know, pause,
what a center ass going to be at when he's under the, like.
Did we get an official high?
on him.
Yes, we need an official height on him.
Like, it's going, it's, and the timing of the snap, you know what I'm saying?
It's going to be, it's going to be different from him.
But I believe he wins that job, you know, and not saying JJ is not a, he's okay, right?
Yeah.
But if you have a quarterback that comes from a team where he's won those close games, right?
He's had a couple winning seasons.
No, for sure.
You know, and he has the demeanor.
He has the attitude.
and to get those tough yards at the end,
when he's scrambling, he's fast as fuck.
A little quick motherfucker.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's like he has the tangibles,
and I believe if he can get Justin Jefferson,
our boy, back on track, you know,
because JJ was kind of frustrated last year.
Yeah, you should be.
Yeah, for sure.
And that's not on, and JJ, that's not on you.
No.
They got, you said you want to sound.
Yeah.
Right?
They got rid of him.
You know, sometimes in our careers we have down years.
You know, what it's not on us is about, you know, the people that's in the building, you know, the certain calls they make, certain people they bring in.
So I think if K1 comes in how I think he's supposed to come in, bro, I give J.J.
1,800, 800 yards, 12 touchdowns.
This year.
This year.
Yeah, man, I love it.
I think it's great for Jets, man.
I'm happy for him.
You know, you've seen what Kaler Murray has done with, you know, playing with.
playing with Larry Fitzgerald.
He played with A.J. Green.
He played with D.Hop.
Yep.
Right?
You know, so I think that there's some parallels there, right, to Jets and making plays as being the guy for Minnesota.
I do also expect a good year from the Addison kid.
Yeah.
Right.
I do think that that's going to be a part that they now can show that 1A, 1B type of tandem that
they are, right, that duo that they could be, I think we're going to see the full, full, full picture of that coming up with Collar back there.
But I will ask you, based on what we're talking about, I think their coach is O'Connell, right?
Yeah.
Based on that, who is a guy who likes to run a football, who likes to be, you know, kind of a balanced type of offense?
Do you think they go to more of a past first type of offense?
So they kind of keep it the same and figure out how to adjust for, you know, under center stuff.
I think it's going to be a definitely adjustment, right?
They changed the whole offense.
It might have to, right?
You see last year it didn't work quite as well, right?
You have to know how to switch it up, you know, different calls, you know, to get guys open.
And now it's like you have to favor someone.
Right.
But do you feel like, I want to ask you this question.
Do you feel like the offense that they run would be a better opportunity for a
collar because he don't have throwball as much, right?
Or is it one of those things where we play to collar strength?
Like, how do you feel like their approaches from Kevin O'Connell and the Minnesota Vikings
moving forward into the, into the 2026 season, right?
Yeah.
Is it still balanced play action pass, still under center in the gun, mixing it up?
Yeah.
Or is it more like how we see Kayla Williams and, you know, Jordan Love in that division,
You know, well, Jared golf, well, he's more on the center, more balanced, right?
But, you know, these other two guys, they're pretty much in a gun, you know, 80, 70, 60% of the time.
And it goes back to attributes, right?
He's 4-1.
Man, stop.
I'm talking with you.
Hey, listen, listen, bro.
Hey, K-1, bro.
We really need to get a high count for you, bro, because we saw it was, you was listed as 5-10, bro.
Come on, dog.
You not know 5-10, bro.
Come on, man.
You need to holler at us, man.
Let us know, man.
Let us know what the official height is, man.
Hopefully the Vikings get it right in their play off bio books this season.
It's going back on your question, man.
That's a good question because we've seen a guy, you know, we've seen Sam back there
slanging it.
Dalling it.
You know, for a good minute, the first half of football in the NFL, you thought they'll win
it all.
he was there.
Unfortunately, when they got to the playoffs, they lost.
But you have to go, I believe, you have to go on your quarterback's weaknesses, right?
I know when we was in Tampa, like we had too many fucking plays, right?
Right.
So Brady couldn't, Brady didn't like half of them, so he took half of them out.
Right?
Right?
So he worked with, made him comfortable where he was good with throwing with it and what he can't remember.
But do you feel like K-1 is in the same position to make-
As Brady?
Yeah, to make a stance.
Hell no.
Hell no.
Yeah, so.
but if he's going to be your QB1,
you have to adjust to his game.
Right.
What he's good at and what he's not good at.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
I agree.
I do agree with that.
I think, you know, based on his measurables,
and I'm not going to only highlight his measurables
because he does a lot of great things.
Well, he has a lot of, you know, unique attributes that make him a special player, right?
And we all want to see him get back to that point of where we, you know,
seen him over the years, right,
before the injuries.
Yeah.
But at the same time, right, I just don't understand how play action, the play action fake and the
glance routes that we could throw the Jets and to the Addison kid and all of those things
happen as quickly, you know, with him not really being able to see him, you know, from that,
from that position, right?
So I think getting them out the pocket, having them more in the gun will allow them to have
that success and um but i'm i'm i'm i'm happy you got picked up i think it's a great situation
i think it's a great fit um he's handled again number one receivers throughout most of his career
so he's going to know how to talk to jets right he's going to know how to keep jets calm right
he's going to know how to communicate with jets that's a huge thing as a receiver like like
like as feeling like you're a number one receiver on the team or being a number one receiver on
the team like you want to know like the quarterback and you have to be on the same page you know
know what I mean? Like there has to be some type of communication there. And I think Collar will be
able to have that line to open that line up communication with Jets. Right. Jets could tell him like,
hey, look, I like when it's one-on-one, just throw it up. I like me, right? Or whatever it is.
And I think that those are the things that Collar does well. So I think it could be a special
marriage. I think special. So I know we're talking about the Collar and, you know,
J.J. McCarthy situation. Is Kyle are the right guy that JJ can learn from?
Yeah, I mean, again, listen, listen,
Collar's done, I think one time
Collin was up for MVP.
Yeah, he was.
Like, this guy is not
a everyday, you know, average Joe.
You know what I mean?
Like, he could really play.
I think through his experiences
and the people that he's learned from,
the receivers that he's also played with, right?
They can give JJ insight
on to how he could become a better quarterback,
Like how he can start taking some of the pressure off and from himself, right,
and putting it onto the receiver, getting the ball in their hands early.
You know, I don't have to make the play.
I'm just going to give it to Jets.
I'm just going to give it to Addison.
I'm just going to give it to the running back, the tight ends.
They got some good tight ends over there as well.
Like getting the ball out of my hand, like I think that those are things where as a student
of the game he should always pay attention to, right?
If you're behind anybody or you're playing with anybody, I can speak to, you know,
playing with a guy like Rashar Higgins in Cleveland, right?
And, bro, this guy get off press release so easy and effortlessly.
And I'm like, I got still get press and I got like a little hesitation.
You know what I mean?
And then I started talking to him, right?
And again, not to say that, you know, he wasn't somebody that helped us,
but he wasn't somebody that played often for our football team, right?
So, you know, you always got to be able to as a pro.
You always got to be able to be able to look at the guy in front of you and the guy behind you, right?
and take little things from their game
that can make your game special, right?
And that's the beauty of sports.
That's the beauty of being a student of the game.
You can never go into this game thinking you know it all.
The second you do, the minute you do,
you're for a rude awakening.
Right?
You're for a rude awakening, right?
So, man, I think that he could definitely learn from him.
I think that there's room to grow in JJ's career.
I think he's a great player, right?
Collar's only there for a year.
You know what I mean?
This is maybe this is a year
for JJ to get healthy.
Learn a little bit more.
Like, bro, you're still a guy.
I think JJ's still
a guy.
You know what I mean?
And what?
He will have three more years,
two more years left on his contract.
Collar only has one.
Man, look, learn as much as you can, bro.
And compete your ass off, bro.
I don't think you should look at this
like college coming in to,
you know, take your job or BQE1, man.
You go and approach every day
like you're going to be the starter, bro.
Even when you're at practice.
Get their reps.
the reps that you don't get, stay after practice.
There's always a receiver, a young receiver.
I want more.
Man, I want a little bit, extra reps that will stay after practice with you
and throw all your bang-eightes, all of the routes that you missed in practice, man.
One of my favorite quarterbacks was Matt Moore.
And Matt Moore was a gamer.
Like, I'm talking about he just played the game.
Like, when he got in the game, like, everybody got excited, right?
And he wasn't a guy that you would look at on your team or on your roster and be like,
damn like he's he has it all he has all the gifts you know what I mean he was he was a guy that
just understood the game and understood his players and he worked hard the reps that Ryan
Tannahill or J. Culler was getting he was taking those reps after practice he was taking those
reps you know and it might not been with me it might have been with the the practice squad receiver
right but when we got in the game we never miss a beat and that's
the thing that I think that, you know, all players, you know, no matter what position you win,
and whether you're the starter or the backup or whatever it is, man, learn from the guy ahead of you.
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So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
I honestly don't remember.
I think it was on a call about what we should call it.
Well, we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band.
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This is how you guys remember it going down?
Yes.
I have a very different memory of this.
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Bro, the Max Crosby trade got called off.
He is going back to the Las Vegas.
Raiders.
I would assume as Max, like, you would feel a little, like, nervous or, like, hesitant
or, like, you know, like, imagine a roller coaster that this guy would have been on.
Like, could you imagine a roller coaster that he's been on just, like, the last couple days?
And congrats to him, you know, he's been sober, I believe, six years.
Yeah, that's big.
Yeah.
That's something, you know, we should definitely congratulate him on.
Yeah, bro.
Congrats, bro.
Yeah, for sure.
And on your roller coaster of being who you are and becoming a man you're supposed to
And I just think from the point of view from Baltimore, it's kind of unprofessional.
I mean, of course, you know, he's come back off injury.
You know, he wasn't going to be 100% right.
And I kind of wrote him something in DM, you know what I'm saying?
I was just making sure he's good.
He said, you're all right, you know, he's excited for this next chapter of his life.
Hopefully he can get something done, you know, with the Raiders.
He wants to run it back.
But other than that, I think it's a part of the way.
story. You know, I had the opportunity to play against him in Jacksonville. He has a mortar.
Man. He doesn't stop. He works his ass off. I love everything about the guy, his attitude.
What he brings to the game. And I believe, you know, what's for him is going to be for him.
You know, this is just a minor step in his book. It has to be written. Yeah. So you think going
back to Las Vegas is like the perfect, perfect storm, right? It's like the perfect thing for him. I know
when he left Las Vegas, he tweeted something like, you know, I'm sorry I let you guys down, right?
Like, now he gets an opportunity to go in and muster up that.
He wants to win there.
Yeah, yeah.
He wants to bring them a championship.
Yeah.
It's obviously, and it's obviously, he loves it there.
He loves the people, you know, somewhere when you make home, you know, you want to, not just football, but the community, you want to impact in so many ways.
Yeah.
And I believe he's the guy to do it, you know.
you know some some some guys like that have um might roughen a couple of feathers you know with
his personality and everything but no he's definitely the guy yeah there to be yeah talk about a
second win bro like talking about like leaving a place thinking you're going to get some some fresh air
a new experience right and then it's like a bad dream low key it's like you know and then you wake
up and then you know you're back in your situation um i do think that he helps the team and
But also, I think about the team, right?
Yeah.
They were getting two first-round draft picks.
For sure.
They were freeing up some cap space.
They get ready to make some moves.
Their draft board is looking a lot different.
You know what I mean?
Like, as an organization, how do you think they handle, you know, the long-term effect of bringing a guy like Max Sin?
Like, do they change this contract, change his contract up to be able to free up some space?
You know, instead of having two first-round draft picks, they have one.
You know what I mean?
Like, how do you think they'll be?
approach that this year.
See, I don't know.
And I don't think of it as that.
I think of, you know, now you've got to think as an organization, you know.
Is he upset about that?
Max.
Yes.
Of going back?
Going back.
I don't think he is.
I mean, but you just never know.
Like, you don't know the in-house of the organization, you know, the words that was
going back and forth, you know?
You know, they can say so much on media and not trying to expose the hand.
But we don't know the depths of everything, right?
Sound like you know some.
Nah, no, no.
Because I've been a part of those talks.
Yeah.
You know, I understand from both sides, right?
So you just never know.
Me personally, I hope it works out for the best for Max.
I hope he gets the money he deserves.
But this is me looking back, bro, like, what if,
but just what if he would have landed that there in Baltimore?
It would have been crazy.
Baltimore is a, they're known for their D-line.
They're known for their defense period.
Yeah.
Right.
And I think he would have brought a whole different atmosphere to that defense.
Yeah, he would have definitely took Baltimore to another level.
Yeah.
But I think he still does that at his, at the Raiders.
You know, I just think that, you know, at the quarterback position, head coach and turnover that's been going on there.
It is very frustrating for a player.
You've experienced this in Jacksonville.
Sure.
It is frustrating as a player when you feel like you're the best player on the team.
You're losing other guys that are bringing, you know, value to the team.
Your coach is getting fired every other year.
And your prime years are getting taken away.
Your prime year is getting taken away.
Then you deal with an injury, right?
From a mental standpoint, like, shit.
Like, it feels like you can't get no worse, right?
When you finally get an opportunity to maybe land with the team, maybe of your dreams, right,
who has a stable quarterback, obviously lose their head coach,
but that organization has been intact for as long as I can remember.
Yes, yes.
Right?
So, you know, you think you're going to a stable position and then you end up right back
to where you are.
I think there's unfinished business, bro.
Yeah.
I think he has an opportunity to, so he's already, in my mind,
stapled as like a Las Vegas Raider, you know, legend, right?
But I think he has an opportunity to do something special.
You guys got the first round draft pick this year.
We know that you're getting your quarterback, bro.
You know what I mean?
You know, so it'll be interested in to see how they continue to build their team moving forward now that he's back, right?
I think wouldn't you think that as a coach, you know, having a guy like Max Crosby back, you know, our team just got better again?
You know what I mean?
I think he's the vocal point of the defense.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
He's the guy that make plays.
I think he's the guy that guys look forward to to make plays and have juices to build up.
build up the whole team.
You know, that type of guy is, you know, typical crazy-ass white boy.
Yeah, but, you know, he tatted up.
He tatted up, man.
I thought one time, man, I saw them celebrating some wins when at some point in time, man.
I thought they had blunts in the locker room, bro.
Like, I'm like, is that a blunting Max's hand in the locker room or is that a cigar?
I'm like, I wasn't, it was rolled like a, it looked like a cigar, but it was rolled.
Do you, Max?
Do you?
Right, right, man.
Look, we want to see a lot more of that.
that man especially coming from guys that's played at a high level man we have a tremendous amount of
respect for you and how you play the game man get healthy brother um and and go make that shit go make
that shit count bro get that bag my boy yeah go make that shit count yeah um i think as we move forward
we see gino smit going back to new york um is this the ultimate redemption arc for gno going back to
the team that drafted him i saw he said something like you know you would never think that this would be
that will be a part of his story.
Like, what do you think about that being that that's been breaking news lately?
I mean, I don't really think about it too much.
No, not at all?
No, not at all.
I mean, you hear the stories, you know, even the GM admitting that some of the guys they get,
that they've acquired or a draft, you know, it's not the place for them.
Really?
Yes.
Man, this is that Leonard-Fornet version of Adela Sheffield.
Like, tell me about, tell me more.
And I just think, like, when you're losing and it's cold, it's bad, bro.
Oh, it's bad, business.
It's bad, it's bad.
It's bad business.
I dealt with it before.
Yeah, it's bad.
And I hope Gino can go there and turn it around, you know.
Do you feel like he helps their team, though?
I mean, obviously, Gino struggled a little bit last year.
But, I mean, up until maybe last year or a year and a half, maybe two years ago.
We talked about the same team.
We had Sam, Donald.
Yeah.
Justin Fields.
They had a lot of first rounders.
So let me ask you a real question.
Yeah.
Before last year, Sam Dornold winning the Super Bowl,
would you say Sam Dornow was a better quarterback than Gino Smith?
Okay.
Okay, so I think, so I think Gino Smith going back to the Jets,
you know, I think he's a step up from what they've had, right?
No shade to Justin Fields, right?
I've thrown a train with Justin Fields.
But you have to say Gino was in a...
a better system.
When?
In Seattle?
Yes.
Regardless of the system, you still got to pull the trigger back there, bro.
No, but besides the wire receiver number 17, at the Jets.
Garrett Wilson.
Gary Wilson and number 20, the runnerback.
Bryce Hall.
What else do they have?
They just...
Besides the defense.
The defense is the defense.
Which is great.
They just got Davis back from the Saints.
And they, last year...
I said besides the defense.
Okay.
We're talking about scoring points now.
Yeah, but last year they also acquired 80 Mitchell, the kid from Texas,
which I loved coming out of the draft.
It didn't work out in Indianapolis, right?
But he got traded mid-season.
I think he ended up being one of the leading receivers on the team.
So he's going to have some young weapons that,
some guys that actually got juice, right?
And Gino was a leader, you know?
So I would not be surprised if the Jets...
don't make a fight or push for the AFC South this year
through either Buffalo or through the Patriots.
So do you see them beating Buffalo?
I see them having an opportunity to beat Buffalo.
No, no, no, no, no.
Do you see them beating Buffalo?
It's going to be a lot closer than it was last year.
So that's a loss.
I don't know if it's a loss.
I don't know if it's a win.
But we will see.
The Patriots, you see.
Do you see them being the Patriots?
I mean, honestly, bro, I thought the Patriots this year was, you know,
they had the weakest schedule in football.
You know, they won a couple good games.
I'm not sold on Drake May.
Yeah.
I'll be honest with you, right?
And I just feel like as well as they, you know, played throughout the playoffs, you know, they,
I don't see it.
I don't see it.
Like, I really don't, I really don't see them being, I don't.
I don't see them getting back to the playoffs and making the same splash that they made this previous year and with the exit of Sepon Diggs, who was their leading receiver on the team.
I just don't see them being in the same position that there was in last year.
I'm sorry.
We shall see.
Look, I think the Jets fans should be very excited about acquiring Gino Smith and...
Older, wiser, Gino Smith.
Older, wiser, much better Gino Smith.
Don't look at last year.
year that whole franchise, the Las Vegas Raiders, wasn't where we know it had been in years,
right?
And I think now Gino has a chance to do what he's always done, you know, step up to the plate
when back against the wall.
We've seen that Gino, Gino, Gino a few times.
Yeah, so you're saying basically this reunion can work?
I think it's going to work.
That's what it is.
Justin Fields, from that whole acquisition of Gino Smith, Justin Fields, then goes to the
Kansas City, I believe he signed a one-year deal.
Do you think what the injuries to Pat Mahomes, you know, Justin Fields could potentially
step up into this Kansas City role and lead them to some wins this year?
I believe until Pat gets back, you know, he's kind of like the reinsurance that.
He's a safe space.
He's a safe space.
Yeah.
You know, I think Andy's going to, it's not going to have him do as much, right?
You know, Andy is a great coach.
You know, Andy Reid, his first 10 plays are crazy.
Man.
First 10 are crazy.
Insane.
And I think with that offense, you know, Travis coming back, he has multiple guys to throw the ball to, you know, so just seeing him in that offense, you know, with a much better coach.
You know, an offense and mine that coach that can help him.
Yeah.
The sky's the limit from him.
Man, you speak about Andy Reid and it's crazy how, like, just anyone under his leadership or who has played in this offense, they find some type of way to.
be successful.
Yeah.
I remember playing in Cleveland and we went to Kansas City for a playoff game.
We just had killed the Steelers.
And then we go to Kansas City and we're battling Patrick Mahomes all the way to the third
quarter.
Patrick Mahomes gets hurt, knocked out with a concussion in the third quarter.
My goat come in.
Chad Henney.
Bro, I'm thinking to myself.
I'm like, yes.
Like, God, God, you did it for us.
Like, bro, we're about to beat the Kansas City cheese.
I'm telling you, bro, like, we looking around like, listen, if we didn't have a chance,
now we got a chance.
Patmer Holmes is out for the rest of the game.
I don't even know this Chad Henney guy.
So, so.
Bro, Chad Henney comes in.
So you know Chad Henney was drafted by the Jets?
Man, I don't care where he was drafted at.
It was the first round pick.
Bro, I don't care where he, I don't care, bro.
I don't care.
There's no way we're thinking that Chad Henney is going to come in and be as effective as Patrick Mahomes.
And he wasn't.
Mind you, he wasn't.
But the beauty of Andy Reid to be able to say, you know what, we're going to get the ball in Tyrook hands a lot quicker.
We're going to get the ball in, you know, McColl Hartman hands a lot faster.
And, bro, that changed the whole dynamic of the game before you know it.
Like, we're going to shoot it out again.
So did you kind of lose hope when it became into another shootout?
No, I didn't lose hope.
We got him now to a fort down, bro.
And there was a weird-ass penalty that was in part of that game, not a penalty, but they called like a...
And on his phone, he scrambled, right?
Yeah, he scrambled.
But listen, but listen, but listen, he wasn't under the pressure that he should have been in
because the score should have been tied or we should have been winning because we went in to score.
And my guy, Rashar Higgins, full-circle moment, he dives in to score a touchdown.
He gets hit.
As he's getting hit, he fumbles.
The ball goes out of bounds.
They call it a touchback.
If that point counts,
Chad Hennie, he's going to have to turn into Pat Mahomes out there because we will be playing with the lead
and the game will be looking a lot different, man.
But they were playing with the lead.
We put a couple of good drives together.
We definitely still should have won that game.
But, man, he found a way to get it done, man.
He ran for, on the third down, he ran for like 15 yards.
It was crazy.
It was crazy.
My Ricky and Jacksonville, he was there, Chad.
Tough as hell.
I never heard of him.
Yes, he's tough as hell.
He's very tough.
And just knowing him and just seeing...
Man, I got beef with this guy.
I don't know.
The more you talk about and try to build him up in my head, in my head I'm getting hot.
Listen, because I got beef with this man.
He's a great guy, bro.
Bro.
I understand he beat you and everything, but listen, he's a great guy.
I don't think you understand, bro.
that year
Kansas City
ended up
playing Buffalo
and beating Buffalo
to go to the Super Bowl
Yeah
Right?
Yeah
Bro, that same
that same year
we had beat Buffalo
like trashed them
So in our minds
Well, in my mind
Now I look back at it
Chad Henney really like
The football guys
He really like crush my dreams
Bro
The football guys wasn't on your side
But he crushed my dreams man
He crushed my dream
This man
Cold Chad
Chad Henny came off the bench, bro, and crushed my dreams, man.
Like, I'm talking, like, he crushed my dreams, though.
I ain't going to lie.
I'm still a little salty about that, bro.
So, listen.
You're not welcome in Cleveland, bro.
Damn, Chad.
Listen, I'm trying to give you a pass.
But, you know, Java's on your ass.
But stop talking about this man.
Okay, okay.
So it was over it.
I'm done with it.
So, bro, I'm just thinking back on, you know, growing up, like, the guys who watched
played, right?
Who you watch play?
Who I watched play growing up.
You know, I know most of the guys are going to say, you know, Reggie Bush, you know, who else?
Man, Reggie Bush.
I mean, there's so many.
Tavon.
Yeah, Tavon.
But, you know, the guy that I experienced growing up was Cody Paul.
The little kid?
Yes.
And he was a dog.
He was number five.
He was a dog.
Brough.
Is that why you were five in high school?
No, no, not because of him.
I just five was.
Yeah.
Something.
Yeah.
You know, people call me five.
Yeah.
That's what I do.
Yeah.
But just watching him and I, and, you know, now that I got my, this platform I used, you know, I DM them like probably like a year ago.
He's a, he's a teacher at, I think, I believe, his old high school.
Oh, that's dope.
And, you know, he's giving back, you know, I asked him, you know, how far did he go with his football dreams and everything?
I think he only went to college or whatever, whatever the case may be.
But guys that I deserve that, I feel like deserve the recognition, he's definitely one.
He's definitely one of the guys that...
Man, he was...
Who inspired a young guy like me.
Yeah.
Who...
Who...
It's how I take...
What the song was?
La Wayne.
Yeah.
I make it rain.
I make it rain.
Listen, listen.
Cody Paul, shout out to you, bro.
You gonna see this?
Because I follow him on Instagram.
Yeah.
You know, he's one of the...
He's the baby goats of his time.
And also another guy who I feel like was way before his time, you know, that I used to love was
Pat White.
Pat White was...
Was left-handed.
And then he got to Lee.
and it will happen.
All right, listen.
We can keep doing this all.
All right, all right, all right, all right, all right, all right.
A guy that was before his time, though, Pat White, I give you your flowers.
No, Pat White was, Pat White was legit.
I mean, I don't, you know, at that time, you know, NCAA, I remember playing NCAA,
and you either was playing with Oregon or you was paying with West Virginia.
Scramming.
It is what it is.
You know, they had the two best quarterbacks on the game, you know what I mean?
Outside of Tim Tebow at that time, that was all around the same.
same era, if I'm not mistaken.
But, but, yeah, Pat White was legit, man.
Who else?
Who else did you watch growing up that, you know, you try to either mimic your game after
or you just thought they had a good conversation?
I'm not going to say mimic because, like, he's much smaller than me.
But when I got to high school, Tevon Austin had one of the craziest, you know, high school
highlights, even though when he, when y'all played against someone, I was getting recruited
and y'all shut his ass down.
Man, TM7 was on that boy.
Yeah.
Tire made him disappointed.
I'm going to be real.
So.
On their head.
So, but Tavon is, if guys who's not familiar with his game, man, I think he still holds the, I'm not sure.
All purpose yards.
All purpose of all, 472.
Yeah, he were taught against Oklahoma.
Yeah.
That alone is one of the best, the greatest high school, I mean, college mixed tapes ever, ever created, ever made.
Like, I watched it before, you know, playing in high school.
even in college, I think, up until we played them.
And then TM7 just, man, listen, you know, I know y'all was the mountaineers,
but when the Tigers came up there, boy, ain't no nobody, they wouldn't sitting on them
couches outside.
BTA.
Huh?
BTA.
BTA.
Oh, my goodness.
Yes, sir.
It's BTA.
Hey, cue to Marvin, Marvin, the Michael Irvin clip right now.
Man, we was on the head.
I don't think they scored a point.
I think y'all were ranking their record.
ring too.
Bro, yes.
Yeah, Gino spent, Stapman Bailey, Tavon, Austin.
Like, we was going up there thinking like, yo, it's going to be, boy, on the head.
I'm talking about hitting the kicker.
Yeah.
I remember hitting the kicker.
Bro, I, bro.
We, y'all playing dirty?
Bro, we was, anything to win.
By any means.
But anything to win.
By any means.
But that's, again, that was the culture at the shoot.
Like, bro, like, we was just very, like, when it went on Saturdays, bro.
Like, we just had a switch, bro.
Like, everybody on that, like, it's every like, everybody went into an alter ego.
Like, everybody became an Avenger.
Like, it was crazy, bro.
I like that.
It was crazy.
I love that.
Like, it was no other time like it, man.
But Tavon Austin definitely did have one of the, you know, one of the infamous highlight tapes of highlight tapes ever made.
But you would never see an LSU on that.
You would never.
You would never.
Give me your top five college.
how'd I take from our era
I'm not talking about from the Dion's
you know Barry Sanders you know
guys you know
you've seen in college you know in college
Oh that I knew personally
Yeah
O
O got a crazy
I didn't know my man went to
I ain't go to I ain't gonna kill it I ain't gonna say that
But nah nah nah nah
Listen
Nah let's be real
Nah
But look
Let me give you a crazy
O'D's story right
So, so his highlights take crazy, by the way.
Tom, Mark, it's college or high school.
His high school college.
He was playing his people from the Pope.
Hey, listen.
Listen, you take that up with the law.
But look, but look, but look, but look, my dog was, was again, before his time.
Obviously, you know what I mean?
Obviously, you know, whether it was catching kickoffs of one hand, you know, running
punts back, playing receiver, whatever it was, like he was an animal dad.
It was definitely, you could see.
the distinction between like who going to the league or who going to college and and who not,
right?
But I will say this, I will say this, I remember our freshman year at LSU and I know you
remember this too.
TM is there, Tyron's there.
And we're doing seven-on-sevents, one-on-ones, like in the summertime.
And bro.
Y'all shit could be, listen, I walked in, you all-shoot.
The Divans had an all-black.
Bro.
That she used to be crazy watching that shit.
Bro, bro,
tiring,
Tiring,
Tireon,
all the way
to like the doors
and the ops.
Like in,
from the,
from the numbers
to the doors.
Yeah.
I'm down there
ripped the shirt off
and I'm like,
shit real.
Who.
Damn.
But you know,
bro,
that boy,
minus that private school
thing you're trying to put
on him,
right?
Man,
it turned him
into a monster,
dog.
Sure.
It turned him into a monster,
bro.
He came back
a new beast.
He started,
putting weight on you know and that year he he was the only he was freshman all-american this one he went
from 33 to three this one he was number 33 okay okay this was he was number 33 right but but i'm saying
like but i'm saying like it was it was one of those things where you know tyrant also being from
new orleans yeah right and maybe knowing that odell prayed against prep school kids and whatever it is
so he kind of just wanted this like it's a difference right it's a difference for like i was raised
over here in the dirty water you was raised over here
maybe in the cleaner water, right?
For sure.
But I think that competition drew greatness, like, throughout the whole building, bro.
And I watched O'Dell at that point, you know, become like a man, for real.
Like, as far as, like, on the field, dog, bro, this thing was like, bro, that's never happening again.
And it never happened again, right?
You know what I'm saying?
So I would say his highlight tape is legit, right?
Who else did I watch at the time, man?
I used to watch
Reggie Bush a lot
Just because I play
You running back a little bit
As well
I did, bro
But I played running back in line
Back in high school
Listen, I remember
Watching Hollywood
Yeah, so you know what I'm saying
So watching Reggie Bush
It was kind of like
That's how I got my
Honestly, that's really how I got
My sticks from
Yeah, like
Yeah
Yeah
You used to go hard
100%
100%
And outside of that
And outside of that, bro
Honestly
I don't know
I watched like a lot of like
Jerry Rice. I watched a lot of like T.O.
T.O. is my favorite receiver
of all time. So now me and T.O.
played pickleball together. So it's
you know, it's like full circle for me for that.
But like, um,
ain't really. That's really it. I can't even remember
anybody else that I could say. Like I was like watching
the highlight tape all over and over and over and over.
That's funny.
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I love it.
I love that.
Right.
So we're going to go the West Villanova, just because I've seen him win.
Yeah.
I just had to pick them.
I get that.
I seen him make a big shot.
They've been doing it for a long time.
Yeah.
They've been doing it for a while.
The Midwest, I have to go to SEC school.
Let's go.
Kentucky.
Oh.
LSU, listen, we have a long way.
ways to go with that program, but I have faith we would get it done.
All right?
Go tigers.
Go tigers.
And South St. Marys.
St. Mary.
Yes.
Oh, where is St. Mary?
St. Mary's and Cali.
California?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
They got Hoopers there or what?
Over the years, they have.
Yeah, that's going to be an interesting final form.
So I'm picking off history.
I see.
I see.
That's why you picked Villanova?
Yes.
All right.
What about Gonzaga?
BYU.
Yeah, they're not on my list
So, yeah
Even they have great history
All right
I want to switch it up
Yeah
Be different
Yeah
Stand out
Yeah
Like fourth and so
100%
Oh, I like that
Stand out like fourth and so
If one of these team wins
Right
How much do you think
I should put on this
I don't know
When you said St. Mary
I was just like
Not too much
Don't do too much
Just do a little bit
Just do a little bit
10 grand
Five
whatever you say
I'm going to say half of it
Okay it's 20
15
15 so do 5
That's not half
All right
So
Hey that's Lenny's locks
Man so I know
You know we just finished talking about
A couple of guys
You know
We looked at growing up
You know
Looked up to as far as playing
Watching their
You know
The highlights and things like that
But on a more personal level
You know
You know
The infrastructure in your house
The foundation
you know who are some of the people that you know helped you guide you along the way on your
process of being who you are the man you are the father you are the brother you are yeah bro you know what
i think it's easy to say that like you know not easy to say like my family right like my family
has been you know extremely supportive um but you know my mom worked two jobs growing up so it was
always tough for her to be around or give me to practice and i think the people that play the
biggest role in my life was like my coaches, right? Especially in high school, right? There's so many
people in my community, my community, my community. Boy than to you. Bro, bro, bro, literally unsung
heroes, like the Jarvis Landry that's sitting here, like would not be sitting here, right? You
know what I mean? And, and I think they were all part of my story. When you hear it, it takes a village.
Yeah. Like, like, looking back at it, so it took a country.
No, for real, though. Like, looking back at it, I'm just like,
Damn, like, where would I be if my coach wouldn't have drove from Lutcher to Cumbent to come pick me up and then bring me back to practice and then bring me back home, right?
Obviously, he knew that having me on a team would lead to wins, right?
But he also made sacrifices for me as a human, right?
And he took time away from his family, right?
you know to drive 30 minutes this way 30 minutes back and coach and then go 30 minutes back
bro that's you know what I mean so for me man it was like like coaches like people that are cross
path would throughout my life even you know in college even you know to this day where you know
I was like man I wouldn't even be sitting here if like this person didn't pick me up or this
person then just text me right like our friendship right like bro you you're you
are in my chapter in my book right you have a chapter because you know like you are a person when we're
going through our transition right that like stepped up for me right that like saved my life in a way right
because i was having dark-ass thoughts you know what i'm saying so it's like those type of people man
like my family obviously played you know what's the foundation but i think the unsung heroes or people
that don't get enough and you don't hear their name enough right it's too many the name right
with like the people in my community, coaches, guys like yourself.
What about for you?
Same here, you know, my father and my mother, you know,
I have a story that, you know, my mother always believed in me.
She manifested in my life like one day.
You know, I had a reading problem, right?
I stuttered a lot, you know, she used to take our time out of work,
finish coming out of work,
sitting there with me for four hours and had me talk to myself
to take my time to understand that.
she always said like lena you're gonna you're gonna speak to thousands of people i just be like i just be like like like like what the
i'm like what the fuck right and it never it never really hit me it dawned upon me now so now that i'm doing this
and i'm seeing that you know it's kind of coming in in full circle right so now it's certain people
in our lives right that we we didn't realize that we needed to be there
right and i know sometimes on our personal life like when i was on my way here i was asking god like
you know what is something i could speak on like just to help the viewers out there uh people in life
you know and in economy is like debt right and you know and debt is a part of it's a part of life
you know in the bible you know there's a place after this after uh after what is called uh
whatever whatever what it is after life after life and stuff like that and
there's one person that stuck to my mind as my older cousin
Chad Tyler who died from Hartfairie right and
he's one of the unsung heroes in my life that
you know I wish I would have spent more time with but you know
sometimes when you're on the
your high heart you know you with your friends and
he's someone that committed his life to me
and he was in a he was in a military he did services and everything
but when he had free time,
he always came to my high school games,
you know, my college games.
And, you know, I think about, you know,
his debt and it's okay to deal with it day by day.
You know, he's just, some people in your life,
you can't get over, and I'm okay with that.
And I've come with the realization that I'm cool with that, right?
And, bro, this, this, this,
It means so much having good people in your corner that you didn't know you really needed until they're gone.
And just reflecting on my life from high school, from park ball, you know.
And where we're from, I'm from New Orleans, right?
That is so normal.
Like, it's so normal.
So as I'm older and I raise my kids in a different environment, that shit is not normal.
I'm almost like it's not so I just have to you know this day by day bro just understanding man
life is so precious yeah and the people that who are part of your journey who was a part of your
story you brought up your coach you know I've been out of high school where I graduated 14
you graduated it was this is 11 2011 and for you to still remember that them drives
you know what I'm saying
that made us who I am
and I'm telling people at home
like it's okay to grieve like
it's okay to
to not forget those people
you know and
and I see my kids go through similarities
now you know my wife sister passed away
a couple months back
and how hard they took it
and that's why
us growing up
we grew up in a hard
is a hard error like you know
you cry as a
You cry as a boy, man, you be tough.
I let my sons cry.
Like, it's okay because you're not going to get these times back, you know?
And maybe it's building my character or it's challenging me to be a better father.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, to me, and I know everybody have their own opinions, but it's not, I have the best father in the world.
Right.
Right.
A true story.
I was around 12, 11 years old.
My father's been shot up.
Shot up.
Got shot,
the thing got shot like nine times.
Right.
And I could remember, like, I had a playoff game coming up.
And, you know, my father's been my coach my entire life.
My entire life.
So, you know, I had okay, okay playoff game.
And that's why, like, that's my man's through whatever.
Because I could remember, like, looking in the stands, he there.
You have stitches from, what they call it a zipper, from here to here,
inner stand support me.
And I'm 31 years old to this day.
That's one of the highlights of my life that stick with me.
Having to beat up for my sons, my daughters, even my brothers and my sisters, you know.
And true story, man, we had the rookie premiere in L.A.
and one of the coaches
because I was obviously a high pick
you know like Lennon who you like who is your game after
I'm like who you look like who you looked up to
I'm like be real like none of y'all like
I was being real like
when I was in the seven wall
like and that's no and I'm not saying this
don't have somebody look up to you know what I'm saying
but mine's was my father
Yeah.
There's never another football player.
You know, he was, to this day, he's still, he's like my superhero.
That's what I'm for so.
We talk every day.
You know, now that I'm older, I understand him.
You know what I'm saying?
You know, different environments, you know, different upbringings.
And I know how much I love my kids and you too, you do a great job with your son and your daughter.
You know, so I want to commend you on what you.
doing that that shit doesn't go and notice
and any father out there
that's doing the best that they can to provide
for their kids, their family,
their dreams, you know,
and maybe you don't have the financial background
to fulfill
or the, to try the needs to do
what you need to do.
Man, you have someone there
that's backing you up in your dog
times when you needed me. And even
the times you called me and I didn't really express
myself with when I needed someone to talk to,
I just want to say thank you.
Yeah.
Because once again, like I say, good people deserve good people.
And you're one of the good guys that's in my life that helped me do some crazy times, which I needed.
Even the time when the Saints game, when you just came to my house, I was going through a dog time because I was in a transition from going from RB1 to RB2.
You know, and you told me something when I dropped you off.
Like, man, you know who you are.
Remain you.
Don't let that phase you.
You know, and I wound up having a good game because that whole week it was bothering me.
you know especially like being a starter and seeing the starters come on the megatron and things like that and you go from you know from the first three years hearing your name going to your fourth year somebody else name you know it's like it's almost like an ego check right so i needed that i needed you i needed fourth and south just to express my stories my life stories i went through that we're going to continue to grow as fathers fathers
brothers,
husbands, barrens,
whatever the case may be,
and most importantly,
men of Christ,
you know,
them calls on Wednesdays,
I need that.
I'll be needing that
because,
yeah,
we might have,
and people think money
because,
they think money
is to solve everything.
Yeah.
To be real,
it makes you even lonelier.
Because not everyone
can understand your problems.
You can't
Like, they're like, what would you mad for?
You got millions of dollars.
But I have that, but I'm, there's a scripture, right, for man to conquer the whole
world lose his soul.
That's what I'm not trying to do.
I'm not trying to lose my soul.
You know what I'm saying?
So how has, how has, how has, I appreciate you saying everything that you said.
How has these experiences that you, how has.
that you've been through
help you become a better friend
and a better father, right?
Like what are some things that
for people that may be going through similar things
as you as us?
Because we all, you know,
we all have similar problems, right?
We all are human, you know?
How has things that you've been through
throughout your career, through your family history,
through your dad.
How has all those things helped you as a person?
What could you say your biggest takeaway is as a person,
as now a friend, right?
As a father.
Like in those three areas of your life,
you know, as a businessman, four areas of your life,
what would you say as the biggest takeaway
from your life experiences to those four different things?
I thank God, man.
just having God involved in everything I do, you know, with decision-making's for my kids,
whether it's to play certain sports or to push them to have them get their confidence
in areas they weekend.
Like, I know my son is very shy, right?
And, you know, you can see certain things in your kids, like they're athletic, you know,
they have a, they might have a future in a sport.
And I just try to break them out of that, like, as far as, man, be you.
be you.
I come from a praying family.
A praying mother who kept us in church
Monday through Sunday.
I mean, you know,
mom,
it was aggravated,
but it paid off.
It worked.
I'm one of those,
I was like a black sheep
almost in my family.
I put out of six schools.
And, you know,
football wound up being my thing
to save me.
Behavior wise.
It helped me for discipline.
And understand.
structure, even though I had it at home, you know what I'm saying?
I still kind of messed up, but it showed me when I fell in love with the game and I got
in trouble in school, right?
And I couldn't play.
I go to practice.
First time really crying about something like, damn, like, you fall in love with this game,
you didn't much know as a kid.
So now, what I do now, bro, I put God in every situation, every decision, every relationship,
you know, even if I got a question it too many times, bro,
I think it's just like, to me, that's like God talk with me.
Like, let it go.
Let it go, Leonard.
Like, you've been through enough situations where you have to learn.
It's understanding, like, some people are, some people's going to be in life
for reasons and seasons, and it's okay.
You know, I know for me, I'm a, I love hard.
Like, I grew up on that loyalty, like, to the bone.
Yeah.
You know, so for me, just pick up on your answer.
I think involving God and every aspect of my life is what is what's making me who I am.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I think for most people out there who are, you know, first generation, you know, millionaire or first generation, let's just say success.
A first generation graduate, whatever it is, right?
Like in essence, like we're breaking curses, right?
Generational curses, right?
And to keep those things broken, man, I think you hit it right on the head.
Just, you know, keep God in everything that you do.
Man, it's been an honor to sit here with you and share this platform and share this stage
and use our voices as testimonies for our other brothers and sisters out there, man,
to not only be able to talk about fashion and football, but also be able to talk about
talk about life with you and have real conversations, right, that for us aren't hypothetical.
Right, right?
We went through this, right?
We've been through this, right?
And so, man, it's a privilege to be here, man, and to share a space with you.
And until next time.
Forward this out.
We out, baby.
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