The Herd with Colin Cowherd - 520 In The Morning - Jeff Teague reacts to LeBron & Lakers struggles, are Cavs BEST team in NBA?

Episode Date: November 8, 2024

On the Friday, November 8 episode of 520 in the Morning, Jeff Teague, DJ Wells, and B Hen react to LeBron James, Anthony Davis, and the Los Angeles Lakers recent struggles as they finish 1-4 on their ...5 game road trip. The guys explain how bad defense, and a seemingly lackluster effort are hampering the Lakers so far. The guys then discuss who the best teams are in the NBA as Donovan Mitchell and the Cleveland Cavaliers are off to their best start in franchise history, and Steph Curry and the Warriors are playing championship level basketball again. Last, the guys react to the EPIC Thursday night football game as Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Ravens beat the Cincinnati Bengals despite Ja’marr Chase’s 264 yard night. #Volume #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:48 Good morning. Happy Fridays, 520 in the morning. We're here to keep you up today and everything in the sports world, especially basketball. My name is DJ Wells. I'm the host. I got my team co-hosts up here with me this morning. To my left, I got Bishop Henders to my right. I got tea.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Fellas, how y'all doing this morning? Chilling, bro. Let's get to it. All my life, I just wanted to get munch. We ain't recorded on the Friday. Yeah, this is a different type of morning story. Your facts, bro. But listen, man, Thursday night football was crazy last night.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Bengals versus Ravens. Always a good game. Divisional game. Man, 34, 35, almost went to OT thriller, man. Did you guys the game last night? Yeah, just bits and pieces of it, though. A little bit of it. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:03:28 I'm a fan of Jamar Chase, Burrow, Lamar Jackson. Derek Henry. So it was a good game, entertaining game. Listen, man, Ravens got another dub. And in due fashion, they always come back, man. At one point, this game was 21 to 7 in favor of the Bengals. They came back and made it 28 to 21. Seasaw game, crazy game.
Starting point is 00:03:47 Everybody was getting to it yesterday. First and foremost, man, I got shows in love Joe Burrow. I always very critical of Joe Burrow on the show because I think he slides when the other quarterbacks get a lot of flag. But yesterday, he did this thing. He had four TDs. Three of them was to Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase is one of those guys.
Starting point is 00:03:59 He's one of those Randy Malls. Hall of Fame type of receivers that we always talk about. For real, bro, he's a talent. I mean, like he said, I'm always open. All the talented receivers say that. 11 catches for 264 yards and 3 TD. I'm like that. No, he's cold.
Starting point is 00:04:17 I just didn't know he was going to say Randy Moss is crazy. I mean, he's one of them talents. He's going to be a Hall of Fame. Put him in the upper echel line. I don't think so? I respect it. Now, he's going to be a Hall of Famer, but this Randy is kind of like,
Starting point is 00:04:28 you got to treat Randy Moss like you treat Jordan, Tom Brady. like you know, you don't kind of mention, you know, too many people with them. We hear right now, Randy the goat, wide receiver or your goat. I mean, Randy Moss is my favorite football player. Okay, I mean. That boy got so many of them. Nah, he is my favorite football player.
Starting point is 00:04:47 That's a jersey I got. You seen we got football jerks from Mitchell and that shout to the family. I got Randy Moss. You got Julius Pepper. No, Lawrence Taylor is my favorite football player a lot of time. I see the video he sent me the wrestler. What's his name? Cocaine?
Starting point is 00:05:06 This fool seems to be a video of a wrestler doing a coach. He said he just put out of eight ball. That was his finishing move. Hey, I'm just saying. The Coke slam. That wrestler shit is the joke, bro. Anyways, man, y'all crazy. Listen, man, they had a hell of a game plan,
Starting point is 00:05:25 but not to skip too fast forward because Lamar Jackson did what he does, you know what I'm saying, 290, three tuts. Now, excuse me, Fort Hood. Now, my question is, you know, enter the game, Jamar Chase, five-yard pass, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:05:36 to put them in a position to see if they can go ahead and get that. They go for the two-point to win, and he don't get the ball. And if you look at the coverage, people say, you know, they would have been tough for him to get it to him.
Starting point is 00:05:46 But at the same time, you know, at the end of the game, you're at your best players. How do you counteract that? I know from a basketball standpoint, but from a coaching standpoint, was burrow out of pocket for not trying to get him the ball?
Starting point is 00:05:57 I mean, sometimes you got to be a decoy. I think everybody in the arena, the stadium, everybody watching across the world, knew the ball's going to Jamar Chase. I mean, he's been killing the whole game. They just scored a touchdown, going to him, two-point conversion. You probably think they're going to Jamar Chase.
Starting point is 00:06:12 They probably try to use him as a decoy. And it didn't plan out, but like he said, he's always open. Always open. But it's funny that you said it because we talk about the decoy situation. I know it's not close enough in the same example, but you see what happened with Super Bowl, Marchion, didn't get it.
Starting point is 00:06:26 You know, that was cool. Same thing, though. That was foolish. I mean, different times, of course, but. more important ways, of course, of the situation. Give me the pill, bro. Give me the pill. Take me, like, trying to catch the ball over, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:39 whoever he threw it to. But I'm killing, bro. Feed the high hand. I guess my question is, I mean, in a result, you didn't get it, obviously. Would they have felt better if it was even forced to him to try to make the play? I mean, I understand.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Like, if they went after him and was like, well, he's been killing all the game and they did it. It wouldn't have been a problem. I mean. Y'all said anyway. I mean, it really would have been a problem. If he would have tried to force it to him, yeah, it wouldn't have been a problem unless somebody else was
Starting point is 00:07:06 wild, wide, wide open. Then they would have said something about the fact that nobody was open and he didn't go to him, now it's a problem. Yeah, it's all the intricacies of the blame game when you lose because obviously if Burrow made their call and that convert, then it's a whole totally different conversation with the W for sure. But hell over game at Thursday night football, I came a long way because we've been getting a lot of mid-matchups,
Starting point is 00:07:25 but we're getting back to the basketball world. Listen, we never record on a Friday, so we're going to break down some teams, First things first, man. Let's start with the Los Angeles Lakers, man. They had a high start, three and no, and now they are losing. They have lost three of the last four.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Early in the season, I know it ain't 10 games in, but who we blame it? You know, this is LeBron James' team, so the blame will come out early. Well, we got to start with, I'm not going to put any blame, but JJ Reddy came out and said the other day that you got to play like the old man
Starting point is 00:07:52 and basically kind of alienating Brown. Like, he's playing great. He's playing great in that game. and kind of like telling everybody else to pick it up. I don't think that's the way to go about it. We all know Brian great. That's some big shoes to feel for everybody trying to be like Brian. He's been playing great this year.
Starting point is 00:08:10 But obviously he's been switching the lineups. He's been doing all kinds of stuff. Kim Reddish and came in the game. Now he's in the rotation. Connect started starting at one point. I don't know what's going on with the Lakers. I guess they're trying to find the identity again. But you got to start with JJ Reddick, I guess.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Most definitely. through a couple options and y'all let me know how y'all feel about let's start with the bench like you said there's been a lot of different combinations some of the certainies in the lineup but as a solidarity standpoint I don't think the bench has been as productive they probably would have liked with these young pieces um is that something they need to upgrade or even can they afford to upgrade that yeah get rid of delo man get rid of deal let's see when delos shot that corner three air ball okay j j j j jrida reddy they got tipped pause but j j jr reddy face was crazy jay was pissed it's time to go
Starting point is 00:08:58 go, bro. Yeah, I mean, he hasn't had a good tenure with the Lakers. Yeah, it's time to go, bro. Yeah, but then we also have the same conversation with, like, when it comes to playing with O'Brien, okay, what point guard do you put next to him? You got to have somebody who don't give a damn. Like, you can't have anybody who cares. I don't think Delo cares, but I don't think he got the credentials.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Style of play. Yeah, and the, like, the, I'm not going to say the clout, but the clout to be like, I don't give a damn with the brimps. Brian talking about. Yeah. Like, Kyrie had the cloud credentials to be like, yeah, I don't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:09:34 And Brian respected Kyrie game so much that he would let him be him. Yeah. I don't know if he respect Delo game that much. Like sometimes when Delo shoot, if you watch the game or some of the shots he'd take, Brian'd be like,
Starting point is 00:09:46 he started doing that shit. He would never do that with Kyrie. I think he truly believed Kyrie can make all those shots. Sometimes I don't believe he think Delo can make those. I don't 100% agree. Even in this our situation
Starting point is 00:09:56 with Rudy early on in the game, like I'm on a heater. right now, like swing that shit. Yeah, yeah. You can tell he's like, all right, I rock with y'all, but y'all ain't got the accomplishment. So I don't trust y'all enough to really just be doing what y'all want to be doing out here. That's the fact.
Starting point is 00:10:06 He only really trusts AD and probably Brownie. For sure. But I got to ask, is that because, you know what I'm saying? Obviously, with him being tenured for so long, he comes from the old NBA where everybody can't just do that. But nowadays, you got people coming off the bench, six, seven, eight men. They might get up six or seven threes. And that just be the office for the night.
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah. You can tell how much he trusts like Austin Reeves. Yeah. For some reason he fuck with Austin Reed. I mean, Austin Reed's a good player. He co. But I think he believes, like, he can make that shot or he can do that. It's something that he does in practice or the work he put in to make Brom.
Starting point is 00:10:37 Like, yeah, I fuck with that. But some of the other guys, he ain't, I don't know if he's rocking with all that. Or at some point, bro, just say fuck it and start putting the confidence of your players, bro. You too old to be paling, bro. Be Lo going to shoot his shot. Be Lo going to shoot his shots, bro. You know he's going to tweak out. but they say we got the next one
Starting point is 00:10:57 or instead of just tripping out of time. I don't like that part about Brian. I agree. And I think this another thing is, like you said, if you're not going to be able to move nobody, this is who you stuck with. So at this point, yeah, you know what it is. You're trying to win, bro.
Starting point is 00:11:11 Just lock in. But what are they, you think there, I mean, obviously we know LeBron's on, but do you think that the Lakers are a contender in the West? I never did. A team to contend in the West. I never did.
Starting point is 00:11:20 They come to Puerto Rico with us. One, two, three. You're saying, while we hooping, though, let's make the best of it, bro. Who getting the flights, bro? It's too long, bro. I ain't got it. Jeannie Buss. I never like the Lichens.
Starting point is 00:11:32 I never liked the Limes. I never liked their team, man. I don't like this way of set up. I don't like DeAngelo Russell with that team. Rui is a good player. I like him on that team, but I don't like him as a focal point, like a starter.
Starting point is 00:11:44 I like him coming off the bench getting buckets. They just need some more solid role players. Maybe some more veterans or I don't know. I don't like the Lakers. I ain't going to lie. It's a weird. roster because even you look at from a defensive standpoint, you got AD who could possibly be a DPO I can every year, but right now they're 28. LeBron is not actually expected to be playing real defense at 65 years old.
Starting point is 00:12:04 So you have to wings like Cam Brady, so you expect to come off the pitch of the play defense. He didn't did much when I didn't see Jerry Vandervale yet. So it's like, okay, the things that were identified as that made y'all successful, you don't have that, and you have pieces that just seem satisfied about. What do they do? They just don't have no solid, no solid role players. I mean, Austin Reeds is a good player. Cam Reddish, we all want so much more from Ken Reddish. We all think he could be really good,
Starting point is 00:12:28 but it's that potential thing. And I think he didn't rent out of potential. I mean, you got to start delivering. But, I mean, a good defender, but offensively, he gives you nothing right now. Yeah, even with players like Gabe, Vince today expected to come there and be able to shoot three at a high volume.
Starting point is 00:12:41 It hasn't quite worked out the way. I told you. I'm sleeping on gay. Bring Brony up, man. Told you. Bernie is in South Bay. I mean, for now, but he's suing up when they play Philly. Like, we did this. We're playing JV.
Starting point is 00:12:52 in varsity. Like Max Christie. Two quarters, JV. Three quarters, varsity. It's like, Bronny got the measure restriction for JV is crazy.
Starting point is 00:13:01 Like Max Christie, though, like, he got paid. You know what I mean? We talked about him and getting some money and I just don't see it. I ain't hate you, man.
Starting point is 00:13:12 I just don't see it. I wasn't hate it. I just knew I'm like, it's not wrong playing Bronny, bro. We're a rebuilding team, bro. Let the show begin, bro. Yeah, bro. I'm all lit on the Bronny.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Play Bronny, bro. You're right. Bro, like, seriously. Man, if they start playing Ronnie for real, for real, bro, free LeBron. No. I'm not trying to chance, bro. Free LeBron. We're sad.
Starting point is 00:13:32 We're sad. We are sad for real. We are sad with two superstars. LeBron should I be at the end of his career, bro, playing for this type of play, bro. Why, bro? You asked him to come here. Let's keep it real.
Starting point is 00:13:43 You asked for your son to come here. Too shy? Yeah. All the, so let's play it out. Let's rock out. Y'all, y'all are the weak team of the league, for sure. Because to me, to have two super
Starting point is 00:13:52 superstars is, I don't know, bro. Y'all should be kicking ass, bro. At that caliber, you should be kicking ass. Y'all not even going to be a top five C in the West. Nah, I mean, but they help, they surround and help, man. That does matter, bro. They're not. That shit matters, bro, but they're good enough, bro.
Starting point is 00:14:13 I don't know. Hey, you know, it's funny. It was just like, what if we get to a point where they, LeBrogne got to do, Barney, like, he do area of the point guard played with and get him traded. He hear Bronnie drafted And then trade Bronnie, that'd be the crazy
Starting point is 00:14:25 I'm going to pause up No, let me get some Tick before you trade me though What, they probably can't trade nobody Because everybody's going to ask for Bronny in the trade You know what I mean? We're trying to get rid of D-Lo
Starting point is 00:14:35 We'll put Brony in there We'll take D-Loh For sure So they're going to be Yeah, they're going to be stuck with D-Lo We're going to get brought anyway How many years is on D-Lo contract Do y'all know?
Starting point is 00:14:47 Like two? Getting him out of there though, man Not off-hand. I need to go. I think he only had have one, if I'm correct, because I think he had a one plus one. He's a good player, man. He just got to go somewhere else, man.
Starting point is 00:14:56 The Lakers ain't for him, man. Like, Lakers need, like, Dame Lillard. I mean, I know I'm, like, going crazy. Like, that's a lot of money to get Damed. But Dane, Brian will respect Dane. You already seen him. He's like, if I had a Dame Lillard, you know what I do? Yeah, so if he had, like, a player like Dame or something,
Starting point is 00:15:16 then he would be willing to, like, oh, you can shoot that shot. I know you can make it. You a Hall of Fame. He had more respect. You see how he treated Rondo and those there. Oh, yeah. Awesome in respect.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. That makes sense, though. They need a point guard like that. I don't know if there's any more of those in the league, but just somebody that can facilitate, man. Delo trying to score 20, y'all. That's what he's trying to do. He don't care about winning, bro.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Yeah. And last knowledge, if we get out of here, JJ Reddy, you said it's coaching the FA and all he's still mowing it out. Do you think there's something he could do differently to kind of help with this team? Or does it think that the relationship with him and Deelow need to change?
Starting point is 00:15:50 Because if they're going to be stuck with D.Lo, they've got to figure it out. But I feel like if he's doing that, that could be a confident situation again. Or an unbelief situation. If your coach don't believe you and Brian don't leave with you, and you're still stuck here, now you ain't getting nothing out of them. It's just, I think JJ is super competitive. And, you know, as a first year coach, I mean, my first year coach in high school, you are so competitive and you know how you will handle things.
Starting point is 00:16:12 You know how you will compete. And then when you see somebody has that, like, they have that same talent level or even more athleticism or whatever. And you're like, man, you should use it differently. you compete like this and they don't. It's a little frustrating, so I think he's learning that now. Like, shit, if you had the heart I had, it's probably what he's saying in his head.
Starting point is 00:16:29 If you play, like, all the talent and skill you have, you have my heart, you'll be great, but it don't work like that. For sure, makes sense. Speaking of great coaching, man, the Cavalier is not an old best start in franchise history. Are they the best team of the East? I guess for now. The Cavs, the best team in the East right now, yes.
Starting point is 00:16:48 overall it's to be determined. I'm just happy the way they play. I enjoy watching Kenny coach that group. It's a good group. I don't know if they're the best team in the Eastern. Okay, okay. First of the Warriors. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:17:03 Warriors 71 tied in the first of the West with your sons, man. Okay, C. Are they the best team in the West? The Warriors? Of course not. They are the Tim Tebow, the league right now. Why? You're going to put Tim Tebow smoke with Steph Curry Point Guard on that team.
Starting point is 00:17:16 So disrespectful. No, yes. Because 18, they're not winning a trace. You know, we love you nasty, but you can come to Puerto Rico, too. It's over with. Where are y'all staying there? That's a big. It's 82.
Starting point is 00:17:27 We can get an Airbnb somewhere. It's 82 games in the season, bro. We're on game eight. I'm not putting the Warriors nowhere near in the top five seed in the West, bro. No, the Warriors are going to be a top five seed in the West. I mean, it's a big game tonight. Very big game. That's rare for us to say that the Cavs and, or,
Starting point is 00:17:47 The Cavs and Warriors is a big game in these last couple of years. I mean, they both been. I mean, the Cavs been good, but the Warriors been,
Starting point is 00:17:55 I guess, okay. Yeah. So for them to be back at the top, like the old days with Bronn and Steph going at it to have
Starting point is 00:18:02 the calves and the Warriors being a big game, that's pretty dope. And what's crazy during that time period, I mean, even though a lot of people started seeing LeBron
Starting point is 00:18:08 in the finals and kind of not breaking up, but they had some classic battles. Like, even if you go to the holiday games, like that Christmas game where you first came is one of the craziest
Starting point is 00:18:16 holidays of all time. Yeah. The Cavs and the Warriors got a dope history. But it's a new regime. I mean, new coaches. Kenny used to being on the Warrior staff last year for him to be having a success he's having right now. I bet it's probably a good feeling for Steve Kerr and everybody else with the Warriors, too, though. So, you y'all got winning that game, man.
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Starting point is 00:24:42 Somebody said Oliver Miller were headdums No, everybody on my Twitter though was telling me like, bro, you should start streaming for real. I think, you know, your platform will go up. Yeah, he out of pocket. I'm on you, you know.
Starting point is 00:24:57 I tap it for him. We're going to start go for me from VC. We'll tap it for real. I know it's still early, but right now, Donovan missing, Darry's Guard, best doing on the league. Oh. That's a good argument, though. Shout to Lou Will.
Starting point is 00:25:09 You know what I'm saying? Oh, Lou said that. Yeah. Right now, man, they're most, I probably say they're the best duo right now. They're playing the best. I mean, team rolling. I mean, but I still like the honest.
Starting point is 00:25:20 game, even though they're not winning. Both of them are producer. Most definitely. So I don't know if they're the best duo, but they're winning, so. Hmm. I give it to them right now, for sure. I have to think on it, but yeah, so far as how they plan and got their team
Starting point is 00:25:34 rocking, they got it for sure. Then who's the second best? I mean, I still think the first is J.B. and J.T. right now. Okay. Yeah, I still got respect. Hello, J.B. been out, but, I mean, I saw what they did when they were together. Yeah, yeah. I got to respect it. That's a good call.
Starting point is 00:25:47 It's still ugly right now. But I got to commit what they're doing, because the Cavs won the close games that they were losing last year. For sure. So you got to show some love there too. But obviously, I think it's just early season luck, you know what I'm thinking? You feel like this is something
Starting point is 00:25:59 that could sustain the whole year. I ain't saying they got to be number one at the east, but do you think they could finish top three possibly? That'd be okay. That's my favorite duo is, you know, Shaq and Kobe. That's the worst. Who is that? The worst duo.
Starting point is 00:26:11 They are. My boys figured it out. We're five and three, baby. The worst duo. We figured it out. You want to bet on when we play the calves? Yeah. Who was in the calves?
Starting point is 00:26:21 100. 100 apiece? I got the cast. For sure. You got the calves rest of the middle. Donovan Mitchell better than A. Oh, say that again? Donovan Mitchell better than A.
Starting point is 00:26:31 That's why he laughing. That's why he laughing. I'm rolling with dime, man. That's sweet tea and a double cup got in Guilla today. That's the NCG Cup. If I'm going down from this, I probably would have been creed, maybe. So, y'all, it's on wax. No, Rihanna.
Starting point is 00:26:47 It's on wax. The Warriors, I mean, the wolves. versus calves. I got down to this. Luis. You just, Hey, I ain't never seen
Starting point is 00:26:56 A E. he'd go for 45 in the bubble. Man, stop, bro. We ain't playing the bubble. I ain't seen a different bubble in 2020. Fuck you talking about. A bubble caprice,
Starting point is 00:27:04 man. He's in a different bubble. He ain't left the bubble. He was cracking shit in COVID. I ain't stopped. Listen, send a video. This ain't
Starting point is 00:27:16 5.20. My bad. Hey, it's Friday. Bonus. episode because we love y'all. Nah, for real, though. Hey, low-key, Donovan Mitchell just as good as A.E., bro.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Sleep, bro. Sleep. They not? I'm sleepy. It's wicked. What he don't do that? I like the conversation. What did A.E don't, I mean,
Starting point is 00:27:33 what A.E. do better than Donovan Mitchell? I think the A is a better defender than Donald McChallel. And he's more explosive. What? Ooh, that's tough. That's tough, bro. Ooh, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:27:43 The body bags that Ed has racked up in his short amount of time in the NBA, bro, is different, bro. is different, bro. When Anthony Edwards go to the paint, it's not the same. Early Utah Jazz, Donovan Mitchell, of course. Done contest.
Starting point is 00:27:56 But he's more, he's more relaxed score now, bro. He ain't. He ain't punching it like that no more, bro. Donovan Mitchell's getting just as much bucket as AE. A.E. just talk, and he's more likable. He got more swag, more likable. Sound like a better 2K bill to me? Nah, Donovan Mitchell, just like a 2K put.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I mean, you know, just get his bidding and done here. don't talk much. He just be chilling. Get into it. You know, he grew up a little different. Okay, like on the Jamie Fox show. It was two stars on there, bro. Braxton and James.
Starting point is 00:28:26 Nah, you're not going to do my man diving like that. Diamond Mitchell is Braxton Hardin. Oh, like that. Uh-oh. Braxton Pete Hardingberg is Diamond Mitchell. I can't see that for him. Anthony Edwards. The fact that guy got to zoom in so he can see like this is crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Maybe I wear glasses. What are we doing? So he average 31 or what's that? 24 and 23. Come on, man, what are we talking about career stats? I'm telling you, I know basketball, bro.
Starting point is 00:28:55 I mean, you played it. I'm just saying, it just looked. It just looked good, has Donovan ever made it to let his team to the Eastern Conference or Western Conference finals?
Starting point is 00:29:05 I don't know if they make – They had some good teams, though. Utah had some good years. Shout to Brigham Young. I mean, shit, if I had a Rudy Goe Bear. Shout to Brandon Davies. If I had a Rudy Go Bear, a cat.
Starting point is 00:29:14 Shout out of the catch, too. A cat. A Mike. Riley, he did have him. He ain't had a cat, though. He had a cat. He didn't have Rudy go. He didn't have Rudy go bear a bite
Starting point is 00:29:29 Conley. He didn't have cat. King. And they was trash, bro. They weren't trash, bro. They just blew it at a fleeting against the nuggets. They ain't have cat, bro.
Starting point is 00:29:38 No, listen. Why the Warriors? The Donald Mitchell had cat now, bro. Why the Minnesota Terwill was so good last year, bro, is because I told you all, Anthony Edwards got that job around effect, bro, to his team.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I'm not saying he matters. I say he more likable, but I'm just saying as I'm definitely more as a basketball player. Hold on, girl, I call you bet. That's what I'm saying. Syria always. She meddling. Like I was saying
Starting point is 00:30:05 when they come to them as individual players, bro. Donovan Mitchell shoot way better at Edwards. He just has explosives. No, not no more. Donovan is, bro. He gets a shit up where he ain't... He gets your niggas. I ain't see...
Starting point is 00:30:21 I love AE game, but I ain't seen A.E. had that back and forth, like, Murray and Donovan Mitchell had... The back and fourth? Nah, I ain't seen that yet. Bro, stop playing so much, bro. Not to that level, but he went to that KD, but just not to that level. It was mono and minor like that. But that was a legendary matchup between them, too, for sure.
Starting point is 00:30:38 That was one of the best things we ever seen on TV, bro. Come on, bro. That wasn't? It was good for the sport, bro. Yeah. That was every day. We look at the stats right now. He average 23 years, he average.
Starting point is 00:30:50 He average 24. Listen, bro. Dang her 25. He been in the league. And he was the number one pick. That's what make it worse. That's your team. He was a 13th pick.
Starting point is 00:30:59 So what? You still a lottery? Yeah, but that ain't your team. I went number one for a reason, though. Don't sleep. I came in number one and I was that nigga. You were. What was you talking about?
Starting point is 00:31:08 But he is, too, I guess. I told you, it's Jamie Fox. You got Braxton Pete Hornabrig. I love Braxton. One of the funniest motherfuckers on that show. But Jackson is the star I shoot the three better than you I shoot from the field better than you
Starting point is 00:31:21 And my free throw is higher than you My aspect of the field Go ahead and it's higher than yours Which field do you shoot? Own it off. What are you talking about? You're just from Atlanta, bro. You're from Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:31:32 Listen, we're going to let shot Are you about the future, bro. It's going to be a funny, real if they ever make it this. But I want to move on from this subject and want to ask y'all, is there any offseason trades
Starting point is 00:31:42 that, you know what's looking at early in the season, any teams that miss, like made some teams who should have made some additions that didn't or that made the wrong ones. He's looking here like maybe with the heat talking about Jimmy Butler, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:51 talking about Giannis possibly moving on. Is there any trades I see early on happening? There were some teams that y'all feel like should have got more work done in the off season. Yeah, I'm pissed. PJ Tucker's still not in the NBA, bro. Okay. Shout to pee, man.
Starting point is 00:32:04 He's supposed to be on my burnout crash out bets every night. So I don't know when the deadline is when you got to pick up or fuck up. But PJ, I got you. We're going to pull up you on this. So draft King's going to make sure he get on the team Just like he had a ballad. Come on, bro. It's crazy.
Starting point is 00:32:21 Go to the Lakers. They're sad, bro. You want to fix a Lakers with PJ Tucker? Come on, man. Kim Reddy sending him to this. I love people. He don't fit the script, what they need,
Starting point is 00:32:32 bro. He don't fit the script. They don't need a three of D. You crazy. They don't need D. Pause. The three? I don't know if he shoot him no more, man.
Starting point is 00:32:42 He's corner three specials. They don't got nobody sitting the corner, bro. Yeah, they don't. Yeah, they do. No, they don't, bro. They need a PJ. You need a PJ? Okay, so outside of PJ, anybody else?
Starting point is 00:32:53 I don't care about nobody else. Y'all got it. I mean, it's still early. I think Jimmy Butler and them can get rolling. But I don't really watch the heat too much, but I ain't excited. I seen the other day he could have shot a three was confused a little bit.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I don't know. I don't really watch. I sure to use somebody. Well, yeah, we definitely use a backup big looking at Jail McGee because every other backup we have at the 4-5 has unfortunately heard of Achilles, which is crazy. But Jerez Walker been hoping for y'all, man.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Hey, listen, man, I'm happy that he's got out of the Florida season. He's showing that he's, you know, the potential is there. Him and Benedict Mathron, we didn't add much in the off-season, but them coming back as contributors is definitely what we need it. I still think that the rotation needs to get sold up, but, yeah, I'm happy with them too much. I don't know how we always give on the Pacers. You know why.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I don't know why I hate the Pacers. I used to play for the Pacers. In fact, I'm a Pacer fan now. Now, we could. Utah. Yeah, we could. How was the best point guard your had? You had a point guard like me ever since.
Starting point is 00:33:55 You were Jamal Tinsley. Tyrese has got more freedom. Oh, that's hate. That's hate. I can miss, too. That's definitely hate. Who was the point guard with Victor Oladipo was there? Y'all remember.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Who was there? What was there? Darren Collinson. Yeah, in college. Yeah. 09 drive. That's crazy. I forgot about that team.
Starting point is 00:34:20 He was a good gore for the patience. Yeah, he did play good. Definitely. Always a consummate professional. I want to ask about Utah because obviously, they didn't a couple of last few things. Who put that micke?
Starting point is 00:34:30 Freaky Mickey. Freaky Mickey in the morning show? That's his name of the morning show. It's crazy. Screw fell out. It's all good. You know. Walker Kessler, do you feel like he's going to move on from the Jazz?
Starting point is 00:34:39 I'll be seeing him in college section a lot of trade rumors. Obviously with the Lakers, they put anybody in there. But I feel like he's a big that can move around. that could definitely help some teams. I know, again, it's still early, but... He's a good defender, good rim protector, capable of big.
Starting point is 00:34:52 I mean, he would be good for the Pacers, honestly, right now. Pull up. But for the Lakers, I don't know, Lakers need everything. Yeah, like you're saying. They really do. They actually need Colin Sexton. He would be a great fit for the team. Yeah, they actually do need Colin Sexton.
Starting point is 00:35:06 He don't give a, you know... Yeah, and I think he got the scoring potential off the bench that they need because they have no bench scoring. Yeah. And I think that somebody they might need for real. And from a defensive standpoint here, definitely will, you know what I'm saying? He'll get an effort. Yeah, he'd get an effort.
Starting point is 00:35:21 For sure. All right, are you going Warriors with the win or Cavs? No, I told you, man. I'm going to Cab. I'm going to Gary Maher. Shout to the Bible. Another fire game, Sons and Mavs. Top of one in the East right now.
Starting point is 00:35:35 He spoke highly about the Suns, man. Who signed for the one in the East? You mean West? Oh, West, excuse me. Yeah, I like the correct shit. I was in the correct, excuse me. West for Comps, my apologies. Mavs sitting at fifth right now.
Starting point is 00:35:46 What's up, man? I'm not a math. I like the Mavs, but, you know, Kyle, I'm an anti-athlete, so we got to get, we got to get rolling right now. You said anti-or-an-a? Anta. You know what I mean? You seen my collection. I got to go get them.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And they got one pair of the moccasins. I got three. I got three. I got three. Don't disrespect the trial. Which is your tribe? Me and Kyle. Reddada feather. Be careful throwing them outside.
Starting point is 00:36:14 you don't know nothing about. Vi and Kai. I'm like coming back to something else. Luis, slip it up. I know what that, me. Y'all crazy.
Starting point is 00:36:24 But what y'all think about Clay Thompson so far on the maps? He's just fitting in, bro. He ain't doing nothing, bro. He's solid, bro. No, but he has up and down game. Y'all know Clay is my guy, bro, but he has scored 20. He every 14 and a half right now. Then three, but it's up and down, though.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Like, he ain't, he ain't, found his groove yet for real. Look at the games game by game. I'm telling y'all, it's up and down. I mean, he's not going to be the Clay Thompson that we once seen with the Warriors. But to be a spot-up shooter for them, I think he's doing all right. He's 14 points, yeah. He's a type of player in the playoffs, you need him to have at least two or three good games
Starting point is 00:37:01 that series. No, I think he's going to, that's when he's going to kill. Yeah, I think his experience and his reliability in the playoffs, he's going to have them two or three games to give them just enough when they're having a bad art to push them over the hump. But the sons, man, the real bud. The bud, bro. I'm telling you.
Starting point is 00:37:15 The bus. The butt effect. Bro, I've been a part of one of them teams where you just get rolling. Mm-hmm. But he, you know, he puts you in the right position to be successful. He's going to push all your buttons. He had challenged you. He's confrontational.
Starting point is 00:37:27 So I think, I mean, they found their groove right now. For sure. Who getting the dub tonight? Sounds, baby. I'm going with the sons. I'm going to go with the math. For some reason, Luca plays great against Devin Booker. Yes, always.
Starting point is 00:37:40 He always turns up against Devin Booker. And everything. It's going to be one of them nights. Hunter on that game? It's a lot of a hundred. What's money to anybody nowadays? Oh, I don't speak that language. I'm just saying, who cares?
Starting point is 00:37:51 I'm just saying respect. Tax is about to go. Let me stop. Yeah, quit talking. I ain't got the answer check. About this one. That's on wax. Look, man, they just, hey, they just got nervous.
Starting point is 00:38:04 I'll tell you out later. I'll tell you all on 520. Oh. Catch me on Monday. I'll tell you out of real. He's a tell a dick's pocket. I'll tell you out of real. Oh, that's crazy.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'll tell you out of real Monday A draft keys to treat this well man The parley's been hit The real crash on parlay I'm telling you out of what he ain't Yeah
Starting point is 00:38:25 It hit yesterday That's on the close friends Yeah That's on That's on the only fan Fuckin' It's crazy The bobs when the LA fans
Starting point is 00:38:36 It's completely out of pocket That's out of pocket Oh yeah That's what the bartender It's what the bartender Oh my God I'm just playing Oh he's a home for this
Starting point is 00:38:52 Okay We're going to turn this goddamn One to show up Okay Y'all going to think this is a motherfucker shot at night He keep playing All right No man y'all crazy
Starting point is 00:39:05 I'm just saying because everybody Everybody kept saying People she need to be a staple On the show Yeah that's funny And once a week I get it We're happy to Kiki tweet
Starting point is 00:39:15 Well y'all play two Speaking of struggling teams Amen to bucks man I probably got a dub 13th of the east right now They beat the jazz if that counts But these four teams See y'all feel like going to turn around quicker
Starting point is 00:39:30 You got the bucks of two and six Seventy-sixers at one and six last Knicks three and four Six and the East and the Lakers 500 at 10 in the West Yeah we got to talk about these struggling teams, man. Yeah, it's a lot of questions.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I want to start for the 76ers. Tyrese Maxie, like you said, man. And put too much workload on my boy. Hampshire injuries. It's supposed to be out a couple weeks. Riley. You called it, man. You said he was doing too much.
Starting point is 00:39:56 You did say that. And I said he wasn't doing enough. He's still young, y'all. But I really be why. I like him. So I watch him play. Like, for real, but he plays super hard because he's trying to over-conversate
Starting point is 00:40:08 for what they don't have and what they're missing, bro. So to see him go down with a hamstring injury, bro, that's... I hate that. He was logging a lot of men's. You said that, though. Yeah, bro, you see?
Starting point is 00:40:19 I'm like, bro, I get it he young, y'all. Y'all, y'all play him too hard, bro. Give him a break, bro. Put Eric Gordon in the game, bro. So y'all think it's over for the 60s, man. No, it's over, bro. And losing him, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:31 PG, he back playing, but NB being out, when NB come back, it's him and PG show. Do y' y'all think that's a capable duo to get them rolling? I think for this team to be successful, they need all of them hitting at all cylinders. And I think there's injury with Tyrus Maxi definitely pushes them back.
Starting point is 00:40:48 Also, when it be with the suspension, him missing games, bro, we have to see. I mean, I know what he can do, but he got to get back in playing basketball. So that might take another six, seven, eight, nine games. Now what? How long are you out with a handstring? The handstring is tricky, man.
Starting point is 00:41:03 I ain't going to say it's the worst, but that's one of them you can't really diagnose it. So a couple weeks is crazy. When you're on one place, if you say your handstring, hamstring hurt, but because you can't diagnose it. You can't tell somebody how the hamstring really feel. But them is a tricky one, man, especially the way he plays so fast.
Starting point is 00:41:19 He could be feeling good. He make a quick burst and he can reheard it again that fast. So he might be out a month. And the way that that team is designed, they need him. He was the one part that they was like, okay, reliable. Like, I know these other two dudes don't get hurt. They're going to be low management. But we expect him to play the whole season to carry us to get to a good seat.
Starting point is 00:41:36 Now your plan is all right. So now I wonder at this team. man, like, what do you start thinking? Because at some point you got to figure out, all right, is this season to watch? Do you feel like next year just running back? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I mean, I know it's early, but they got some stuff. They got to figure out. That's a fact. The Knicks. I think we said Tom will tell with them, but just another update, how you feel about the Knicks?
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Starting point is 00:46:37 Indiana Pacers, you know what team he did. They'll be all right. I mean, I think they're going to have to catch a rhythm. I think Jalen Brunson is not saying he having a bad year, but he's just not himself right now. Last year, every time I seen him play, I was like J.B., J.B., J.B., now I'm starting to be like, J.B.,
Starting point is 00:46:51 he's kind of deferring a little bit to Kat, and I understand he's trying to get him, you know, build some camaraderie with him, but, like, he got a hope, you know what I mean. Is that one of those teams you feel like less could have been more? For sure. I always said that. Like, when I said they had to trade J.R. Smith,
Starting point is 00:47:08 Julius Randall, they traded him, but I knew they were going to go get Kat. But I just love when everything is surrounding J.B. He plays better. They team believe in him. The city believes in him. And the city was behind him. I mean, I don't know if they're really happy about Kat.
Starting point is 00:47:23 I mean, he's killing. I know they like him. But I think they like the vibes from last year. I can see that. I mean, we spoke about the bucks on his podcast. But like we said, is it one of the situations still for the same? We need to wait for Chris Middleton.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Or I should phrase, can they wait for Chris Middleton? When is he coming back, y'all? That's a good question. Has that been. He hasn't been clear for five on five yet. We got a couple weeks, man. What do you have, ankle surgery, right? Yeah, so it's a possibility he'll be out another couple of weeks.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Look what it take for them to win two games. What do you think, being? I think if you out, if you're out of east, you smooth. It's early. If you got, if it's going to take for you to wait for your other, you know, peace to come, I thought y'all would be straight. The East ain't powerful this year. Now, if y'all was in the West, it might be a little wicked.
Starting point is 00:48:11 I mean, but it's like I said, it's 82 games, bro. This is way too early to be, like the Lakers are trash, the Raptors are trash. Who else? Utah, trash. But other teams that we predicted to be at least contenders is they'd be okay because they got the foundation of solid. Most definitely. Do you feel like Yonis is patient enough? I guess that's the question.
Starting point is 00:48:32 He's cutting the fool over there. Yeah, I'm going to say, because he's putting the pressure on it. I know, like you said, it makes sense to wait until Chris Mills and get there. But if he's going to keep putting a pressure on like that, and we know with his history, he's going to get somebody up out of that chair. He just need to go back to what Jeff said. like what he used to before he had out of the hype. Just get back to the hoop. It's hoop, bro.
Starting point is 00:48:48 He used to just put his head down a hoop. And we ain't never hear from Yonis. We ain't never hear from Yonis. We just used to see that. Yonis is killing MVP, MVP level every year. He just put his head down a hoop. And now, you know, when we hear about Yonis in the media and stuff, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I like Yonis. It's just hoop. For sure. Lapping, excuse me, recapping last night's games, T. Wills beat the Bulls, 135, 119, a, 3rd, and night, taking care of business. Yeah, the parlay almost hit, man. But you're taking for the 40 piece?
Starting point is 00:49:18 I had him for 30. Okay, excuse me. Okay. He held his end up for the parlay for you. He had his three-threes, too. You know what I mean? So, Chuck, you got your bet on that. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:49:27 We came through, but that was a light win for us. We could have took the night out for goodness to bulls. For sure. So it was AE, like, where do you put him in the rank of the top ten players right now? Of all time? Nah. Hell not. I'll keep it simple.
Starting point is 00:49:44 What do you feel like? Who's the best two guard NBA? Him. I'm going with Donovan Mitchell right now. And so far as top 10 players in the league right now, I don't know, I'll give him six. Well, I was going to ask you all this later, but since we hear the MVP ladder,
Starting point is 00:49:58 you know what I'm saying earlier in the season. At 10, you got Tyrese maxi, nine, got Janice, eight, Luca, seven, A.E, six, Kevin Durant, five, Donovan Mitchell, four, SGA, three, yoke, two, Tatim, and number one, Anthony Davis.
Starting point is 00:50:13 Yeah, that list could be mixed around. I could be shuffled like Apple Music. It's early, bro. It's early. Very, very. I can't. To say MVP, they played too many games. Now, this was the, I ain't on no disrespect.
Starting point is 00:50:25 But, you know, the WNBA play less games than Jeff and them at Pike. So if it was that, if it was that. What's your problem with the W? What they're scheduling? What's up, bro? Yeah, I want to get paid a trillion dollars, bro. And y'all got a YM. PY, Y, C schedule, bro.
Starting point is 00:50:45 And y'all play at 11 o'clock every day. DJ, me and DJ went to go see the fever play, bro. It was 1 p.m., bro. We had to rest our date to ourselves, bro. We go to our pace. So you can't go on a date at the fever game. Well, Kailen made it hot. You better not go on a date.
Starting point is 00:51:03 You better not. You better not. You used to be a bad day. You feel, you could take a freak there. And so, that's long gone. But now you can't even take a girl with you, though, because your girl might get swooped.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, she might because they're demons over there. For real, Juana Man of them is OD over there. You know what I mean? Chaut to eat weeds still. They ain't animals. They had to lie with it, digger, on the front. They ain't a motherfuckerucking 2,000 ravens. What I said?
Starting point is 00:51:36 I see my... Oh, B. Right, Lord. He wins. He damned her. Ray. He's born with the pigs. She married, man.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Oh, respect, Lord. Shows, Aie, we're crazy. Ah, the Bugs beat the Jazz yesterday, $120 through to $100. I don't even count if you beat the jazz, but Dame Giannis, 30 balls apiece. Listen, man, we said we're going to still figure it out. Question is, is Dame still top 5 PG?
Starting point is 00:52:06 I mean, he's playing great this year. That's not slight Dame at all. I mean, his stats are crazy. Yeah, he's 28 and 7. He's definitely killing. I mean, they just got to get some wins. But top 5 PG for sure. Oh, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:17 But he just want to win. He don't get his numbers. That's life for him to get a bucket. He's ready to win, though, at this stage, his career. And I respect him a lot because they be asking him the same dumb questions in his interviews. And he just like, I'm just hooping. I don't know what more y'all want for me. It ain't like I'm out here laying 15, 16, bad games.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I'm out here putting 30 and up in games without y'allness to. put us in position to win. I'm getting 40. What more do you want from this man? I mean, Dame 28 and something. Come on, bro.
Starting point is 00:52:45 That's... You back in Portland again. That's MVP type numbers, bro. 28 and 7, bro. He's killing. He's just not winning. For sure.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Because if they was, for real, if they was 500, he would be in an MVP that list you just had. He'd be up there. Yeah, because he's killing, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:00 He's killing. Shout out to Dame dollar, man. Verified buckets being here. Who was getting to her yesterday, man? Man, who is on a verified bucket today?
Starting point is 00:53:08 Let's see. Who was on the list, bro? Before y'all do that, they've been saying a lot that they should blow the bucks up. Do you feel that way? I feel like if Yannis ain't happy,
Starting point is 00:53:19 then you got to do whatever you want to do to keep him or you got to move it. What would you do, B'Han? You think they... Yeah, get rid of him, bro. Get rid of Yonis? Yes, bro.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Where did he? Where would you go? Where would you go? If you'd be here and playing GM. Oh. Yonis, go where you celebrate. Now, where you tolerated. He celebrated.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Milwaukee. No, no, no, we're done with that. Why, they let Tiago? Yeah, Milwaukee is tremors. We need to go to live. That's like over-transit. So, man, send him to go and stay. Where he want to go, bro?
Starting point is 00:53:54 Let him go play with Clay, bro. Clay? I mean, I'm sorry, I'm Steph. My fault. So you would like to see Yon's in? Yeah, I think that's where he wants to go. So you give up Dremont? Oh, for sure.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Dreamon. They have to be one. Except Draymond. That's what you're going to North Carolina, bro. Go to Charlotte, bro. He should make that call, baby. Now, don't sit my daughter. Dremont need to go to Charlotte.
Starting point is 00:54:17 Yes. Yon just need to go to Golden State. For sure, bro. Who Milwaukee get? Trace, I'm sorry. So, Trace is going to Milwaukee. Yep. Cominga.
Starting point is 00:54:29 Kowanga. Yeah. Kewanga. Kowonga. Kewanga. That's crazy. Kviga. Who else we got over there?
Starting point is 00:54:37 Moody. Most Moody, definitely gone. It's a smoothie gone, bro. We need some more for yons. About three first round picks. No, no first round picks, bro. Send about 30 million.
Starting point is 00:54:46 Just sit some cash. A cash consideration. I would love to see the historic number of the cash. I don't even think you can sit that much. I don't even think it's all this. Cash considerations. Yeah, no trade. That's going to be a couple of them.
Starting point is 00:55:02 You said 30 million. It's crazy. For y'allis, bro. This is not soccer. No, bro. Yonis is still peak. bro. You gotta cash out for Yonis,
Starting point is 00:55:10 bro. When you offer that package, they're going two K with except that. I don't think. You got to trade Whig. Wig.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Moody. You got to trade that entire line up and step, Seth. Yeah. You're going to have Buddy Hill,
Starting point is 00:55:23 Janus, and Steph. That's enough. That's enough, bro. Steff and Yannis is cheating. Yeah, that would be
Starting point is 00:55:29 crazy. Stephanie Yonis is cheap. Now, we can put some role players. If they had the Lakers role players with Steph,
Starting point is 00:55:34 Yonis. But Dame is the same person as Steph. No. No, no, no. And I love Dave. How not?
Starting point is 00:55:45 What does, what do Steph, I mean, besides winning the championships, but if you just go player for player, what do Steph do that damn? See, this ain't fair to Dame. Because being compared to the goat ain't really never fair of a ball. That's the best person ever shoot basketball. Even though Damon's second. Literally, Damon's second. But it's a difference between first and second.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I know, but it's not even that big of a difference. No, bro, I can't do my dumb. all dame like that, bro. But that's not fair. That's a terrible comparison, bro. How? I'm just, I'm different, bro. I'm different.
Starting point is 00:56:19 I'm different, bro. Steff is different than, the step effect is different, bro. Steph got people wearing underarmor shoes, bro. A lot comes with me, bro. People wear dame shoes. No, people love dame shoes, but I'm saying people are wearing steves, bro.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Underarmor people, I've seen them motherfucker with a all-weller. white pair of Steph Curry's on, bro, in a regular outfit. They had that out of pocket. They was walking in the factory. Before Jeff sold it. They were out of pocket.
Starting point is 00:56:49 They're out of pocket, bro. Is that breaking news? I would say, Steph, he's been with a really good organization. I mean, he had Kevin Duranza team at one point. True, bro. But he had Clay Thompson, also second best.
Starting point is 00:57:07 He also had Harris. and Boren, Sean Livingston. Them are nice players. Great players, but what I'm saying. Dane played with besides John and C.J. McCullough. C.J. McCullough. He's not Clay Thompson. No, bro, I'm asleep.
Starting point is 00:57:21 He's not Kevin Dane. Dane played one of my favorite power force of all time on Marcus Alders, bro. He played with him when he was a rookie. Pure dog, bro. I'm just saying. He didn't get enough years with him. I just, I love Dame game. And Dane, to me, can shoot the ball
Starting point is 00:57:35 like Steph Curry. I get that. but the impact on the game is just different, bro. K.D. Or Lamarga, though. Well, it's a no-brainer for that. Okay. C.J. McCullough. I'm taking Clay just off.
Starting point is 00:57:49 But I ain't mad if somebody took C.J. I'm a Clay family. I like C.J. McCallard. They got one of the best Midranger guys ever, but you got Clay fucked up. Yeah, Clay is. I think people will take. Some people will take C.J. McCullum over Clay.
Starting point is 00:58:00 Sean Livingston. Steph Curry plays off the ball better than Dame Lewis. I mean, it's probably a luxury. The Dame didn't get paid to have. He didn't get the play. off the ball. I mean, that's not Steph Curry's fault, though, but that's a difference. I'm saying, that's a difference, bro. Who was
Starting point is 00:58:15 I do that better than you. I mean, I know we're taking up time doing this, but who is Dane's power forward that can play like Dremont? I don't know. To be a nobody. Nobody. He can play with nobody. Okay, it's hard to be Crash Bender Coup in the NBA, bro. Damn. I'm just saying he was at a disavage. I feel
Starting point is 00:58:31 like if you replace Dame with Steph, they probably still win a championship with them teams. He played with Katie and all them. They probably will still win the championship. And I'm not. And I feel like if you put Steph with that Portland team,
Starting point is 00:58:44 they probably get the same results that. I just feel like Dame is more ball dominant than Steph Curry, bro. That's because he had to be. In that system. It had to be. Right. But in that system, I feel like
Starting point is 00:58:54 you got to be ball-dominated in Milwaukee, bro. I don't know. Dame going around off screens and shit like that. I'm saying he got to be. Who's going to say anything? Your point, your point I understand. You're basically saying, you know, if the circumstances
Starting point is 00:59:06 is different, the talent is similar, but in the same time, it's just like, with all kings and sitter, you still got to, I still got to put Steph in that situation. No, no, no, let's not get a twist. I'm not hating on stuff. We're talking about,
Starting point is 00:59:16 No, no, no, he's talking about, some of the M.PGs. Yeah, we're talking about top 75 players. Yeah, we're talking about skill for skill. We ain't, you know, all the accolade shit. We're not doing that. Yeah, I mean, they both top. No, hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:28 No, hell yeah. It's hard to say what Steph does better. I just think Steph affects the game when you can play off the ball and on the ball, and I've done it. At a high level, bro, It's different, bro, than the motherfucker that always got the ball in their head. I think they built teams around him better than Portland built team around.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Dang. I 100% agree. Yeah, like, they did. They knew what Steph Curry did well, and they got people around him to do it. Like, all right, we need a point forward in Dreemakas. Steph didn't play point guard at Davidson. He ran around. He ran around was a two guard.
Starting point is 00:59:59 So let's get somebody who can play point forward and get Steph open shots. Even underrated, them trade Monti to get bogged for that same reason to have those screens to have. To keep the ball of his hands, to run off screens and passing the ball. Yeah, I think 1,000% agree with you there in that situation. I think you absolutely right about that, bro. But I'm saying that's the difference in the game, though. I'm so a better organization. Nah, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I think Steph is a better passing. I think Steph is a much better pass than that. I mean, look who you passing to. I'm going to be a good pass too if I'm passing a KD. You can't knock DJ point for that. I'm not. I'm not like his fault. Damn there are, bro.
Starting point is 01:00:35 When he drives so many people and he's making good reasons, I mean, That's what I'm saying. I mean, but is that a good read? If I'm throwing a KD and I'm throwing at Clay Thompson, I look like a good passer because I would throw it to Kyle Corcoran. He did that for, he did that for three years. You weren't a good passer? I was cool, but Kyle Corpard made me look like a great passer.
Starting point is 01:00:52 You had Kyle, you had Hal. You had Josh. You had Joe. You had a lot of people, bro. Even DeMaric Kerr had some assistance from you. Yeah, but I'm just saying like, shout to my guy. He almost slipped into the All-Star game because of Jeff.
Starting point is 01:01:06 That's a fact. But look. But when you throw it in KD and Clay Thompson, when we run it up Pick and Road, Dray Mon rolling, and you help a little bit off KD. I'm going to look like a great passing. And I'm not saying Steph can't pass.
Starting point is 01:01:19 That's where I've got to say you slighted it, bro. I'm not. You are, bro, because Steph can't help. The first championship he won, bro. That's what he got dealt with. That's a good team. They got to deal with, bro. Steph Curry is the best point guard ever.
Starting point is 01:01:32 I'm not saying that. He's a great player. So you're saying Damon second? I'm not saying. the second. I just said he said it's close. His accolades don't match up with it to be the best. 100%. So where would you put Dame at as a top 10? His accolades ain't going to ever add up to be better than
Starting point is 01:01:49 some of these great players. If he tops 75, I feel like you got to be top 10. Yeah, but I'm just saying like, you can't be like, oh, he's better than Westbrook because he never won an MVP. Westbrook won an MVP. You can't say he better than all these other dudes because... I'd probably take Dame over Westbrook, but... I won't be mad at you.
Starting point is 01:02:06 The comments of love this, man. We got two great comparisons today. First, you got, A. Yeah, that's my very far. That's my very far. That's my very far. That's right. Great conversation.
Starting point is 01:02:14 I'm going to go with Lamar Jackson, man. Doing what he do his best, man. Four T.Ds. That's the man right there for show every time. Yeah, he, he, we want to compare him. He, my. Who, Lamar Jackson? Yeah, he.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Lamar Jackson's. There you go. He's about to say something crazy. What we compare it to? I'm just saying. He's about say Tom Brady, but. Hell, no. I'm going to say that.
Starting point is 01:02:32 Oh, I got to say Patma Holmes. That's like Patma. He Dame Lillard to pat my Like to Steph Curry I like that I ain't gonna have I'm gonna have I like that
Starting point is 01:02:41 Light skin Dame Lillard thug I like that I should say to Lamar Jackson No he called that back To the team bro No
Starting point is 01:02:49 I need Lamar Jackson Get Super Bowl Because Yeah Like I need Dame to get a chip If Lamar Jackson Get a Super Bowl Dame get a chip
Starting point is 01:02:55 We look at them differently Yeah bro I'm in the I need Lamar A chip So we can talk about him The way he deserves To be celebrating
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