The Herd with Colin Cowherd - All Ball - Ohio U March Madness Star Jason Preston on His Journey from Averaging 2 PPG in HS to 20 PPG in College

Episode Date: March 21, 2021

In this episode, we look back at Doug's conversation with Ohio University March Madness star Jason Preston who shares his incredible story on his growth from not starting and averaging 2 PPG as a high school senior to 20 PPG as an All-MAC star for the Bobcats. Make sure you download, rate and subscribe here to get the latest All Ball Podcasts! Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Kid average two, I said two, two points per game, his senior year in high school. He started one game, one. He's in his third year at Ohio, you. He's averaging 21 a game. He got to start his entire sophomore season, some his freshman season as well. How do you go from not starting in high school? except for senior night, to averaging 21 a game. I'm crazy.

Here's my talk with him. What's this been like for you? I mean, you know, it's one thing to play really well and to start earning respect in the basketball world. But when your story kind of takes off, and I want to get into it. But what's the last week been like for you? It's been crazy.

Definitely something that, I've never experienced before, and it's definitely surreal. Very blessed to be here and everything that's going on right now. All right. So you grew up in Jamaica? That's where you spent most of your childhood? No, I grew up in Florida. My mom was going in Jamaica.

So it's in Orlando, correct? Yeah, yeah. So you're a Florida? So your first memories of basketball are where and with who? When I was four years old, I'd have like a little hoop in my house. And my mom and I, we'd watch basketball games together. What was she like? Great person, very caring, very selfless.

She'd always put other people in front of herself. It's just an amazing person. What was it like when she got sick? It definitely wasn't easy and definitely didn't like to see her struggle. But knowing she's in a better place now and doesn't have to suffer like she did before is definitely comforting. Yeah, I can't imagine. Did you know, in terms of her letting you in, did she tell you right away?

When did you know that she was really sick? Actually, it was a couple months in. And I just goes to her, you know, being selfish. You know, she didn't want me to feel bad for her or let it affect me in any type of way. So she kind of held it out for a couple months, but eventually she told me. Did it affect you, like in terms of school and relationships and how you were around other people? Maybe personally, but I tried not to let that affect other people. You know, I'd be pretty selfish for me.

And, you know, especially for her, I didn't want to ever. or let her see me be done or anything like that. Because that would be pretty selfish. Who was, who supported you most during that time? I mean, you have you and her, but who else was, was helping you? Because that's, that's got to be a really tough time in your life. My, my aunt, her sister, well, she would sometimes come down. She really help her, her, her son, my cousin,

and also very supportive and also her best friend would come over a lot, make her meals. Well, what's your best friend's name? Barbara Whizaker. And when she passed, now Barbara, then Barbara took you in right then?

Were you with your aunt right after your mom passed? Barbara's son took me in and also my aunt's son, so my cousin. That's who I was. So your, 15 at this time?

Yes. You're 15, you're bouncing from place to place. What were you like as a basketball player? I was kind of really just a shooter, at least for my high school team. Sometimes I go to LA Fitness. I could do some other things with basketball, but really playing for my high school team.

I was really just a shooter. So in high school, you're a late bloomer, right? at this time, you're 5-11, 6 feet tall. Is that about right? And when we read, oh, we average two a game. Like, were you in the rotation, or were you the guy that people at the end of the game, you'd come in and you just try and get buckets

because the game was over? No, I wasn't really in the rotation. I was probably, I never started. I'd probably get about, like, nine minutes a game. Yeah, in some games I would. You never started a high school game once. I started one game for senior night. So you're the senior night guy, right?

How long did he leave you in on senior? That's the big thing. It's on senior night, like, is it one possession? Is it you got to play the quarter and you just balled out? Like, how long did you get to go on senior night? I think I played a good amount in senior night. It's probably 25 plus minutes and senior night. Were you a good teammate?

Like, I just, I mean, I just full disclosure, right? I went to a different high school because I wanted to play varsity as a freshman. I played some. And I'd like to think I was a good teammate, but I got to play all the time. It's really easy to be a good teammate when you're playing all the time. When you're not and you clearly love basketball and it's a connection you have with your mom going back to when you're four years old, were you a good teammate when you're down there on the bench and you weren't playing very much? Yeah, I definitely tried to be, you know, that selfless person.

You know, it's bigger than me. And our team was pretty successful. and my whole time at high school. We almost won a state championship multiple years. But yeah, I never try to be deep down or anything like that. All my teammates and I had a pretty good relationship to. It was good. So your love for basketball, right?

Because the one thing basketball will do is it will kick your butt. And it will, you know, you love it a lot more than it loves you. Was there a moment, was there ever time there where you're like, man, this just ain't, and for this ain't my deal, right? I'm just going to do it through high school, and that's it. Was there a moment you're waving the white flag on hoop? I don't know if I ever officially gave up on it. I just figured that I would need another option for it if things didn't work out.

That's when I was going to get into the journalism at UCF. Yeah, so you're going to go to UCF as just a student, right, and do intermurals. But then what happened? Yeah, I actually was taking summer classes at UCF. And this was like late July. So the summer semester is almost over. And my friend asked me to come playing an AAU tournament. And I would have made like the fifth person.

So like there would have only been five players and everyone's playing 40 minutes. So I say, why not? I'll play. Okay. So where's this tournament? Do you remember the location? It was two tournaments. One was in Georgia.

And the other one was in Orlando at the Disney. wide world sports. And you guys just had five dudes? Yeah. Who is the coach? Eduardo Palma, Palma, Palma, Palmaelaz.

Okay, so you show up, but you guys get jersey? You got to bring your own jerseys. Just bring some black, bling, some white. Give it the reversal. We had jerseys, but I remember someone, someone was wearing a shirt. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

Somebody's what? One of our teammates were just wearing a red shirt. We had red jerseys. Well, one of the problems. So you show up, red jerseys, looking all janky, right? Don't have any plays. Let's just go hoop. You know, high balls, one high ball screen, come get me.

Was Orlando first or was Georgia first? It was Georgia first. All right. So how'd you do? Georgia, Georgia was really well. Really well. There were a lot of really good teams in that one. I think it was like a hoop session.

It was a really good tournament. And we played really well. Like, I think we were second in the like little tournament we were in. But like I said, there are a lot of really good teams. So who's your buddy who asked you to play in the team? Gabe Poma is the coach's son. So the coach's son asked you to play. Was he good?

He actually was hurt. So he couldn't play. He was really just there. So he's the star recruiter, right? And at this time, how tall are you? You're done playing high school. You're six foot, your senior year in high school. This is a couple months after high school.

This is in the summer, right? So this is, you know, a couple months after high school is done, how big are you now? About 6-1, 6-1-150. So then you go back to Orlando. Now you're back home, okay, and you're playing at the wide world. Did you play well that tournament, too? Yes, I did. We actually won that tournament.

another good tournament too. So you win it, and now what? Take me through how you got to the prep school. So after one of my games there, UNC Asheville coach said, we're all full for this year, but we recommend prep school to you so we can potentially offer you next year.

That next game I play, I talked to a prep school coach, and then he convinces me to go down to his prep school. What prep school? He was going to take me to our prep school down in Florida. But then like a couple weeks later, he said he relocated to one in Tennessee that was better. It was called Believe Academy. So you go to Believe Academy, right?

And like this is, you all set to go to college. You're taking courses. Then some coaches like, you know, you want to come play here, but you got to go to prep school for next year. So and you don't. What were what was your mom's best friend and what was your aunt? What were they telling you? you should do? Um, they were supporting me.

You know, they kind of put it, they kind of put it in my hands to, to make, make the decision. I want to say they were kind of leaning towards, towards school, but at the same time, they, they, uh, they allowed me to pursue my dreams. Well, look, it's hard to believe, though, right? Like, if they watch you play in high school and you're kind of the scrub right in high school and you're telling them like, no, no, no, no, listen, trust me. I can actually get a scholarship, like, come.

scholarship and then you know then you're going to prep school in florida like no no no no we're going to flip school in tennessee it it does it sounds like a it sounds like somebody's trying to get money from it sounds like one of those emails you get from a from a guy who's locked up in in london and the desk really needs you to send 10 grand that's what it sounds like doesn't it yeah no you're right you're right it does it does all right so you show up a believe academy right so it's one of these kind of made up prep school deals and there's four teams. Was there any other school or was it just kind of four basketball teams? No, it was it was like 60 to 70 kids that went there. And the other prep schools I knew,

or I came to realize only had like one other team. But this one had like 70 kids. So it was split up into like four different teams plus a high school team. Two weeks into there, the guy who brought me there actually ended up leaving the prep school. and so none of the coaches that were there really knew anything about me. So they put you on the, they put you on the D team to start or the C team to start? I was on the B team with him, but then once he left, I got bumped up to the A team.

But like I said, no one really knew about me, so I didn't really play much on that team. Where are you living at the time? We all lived in like this little dorm, all 60 to 70, Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games. Some call it grotesque.

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I had, uh, I had like my, my two, my two roommates who, uh, convinced me to come down to the C team with them. But it was really fun. A lot of bus rides, a lot of, a lot of fun memories. So you're just hanging out. Who are your two, two roommates? Their names are Isaac Hill and JJ Romer. So, so during this time, did, do these guys know, or do they, I mean, you know how guys are, like

you're at prep school. They're all going to the league. I'm going to go to Kentucky. I'm going to go to league. All right. Did any of them go like, how good were you in high school? Did anyone know that you didn't play much in high school? It's actually funny. One of the roommates, Isaac, he lived 15 minutes away from me.

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Brought to you by Mitzah and the Ad Council. It's, okay, so how did you, how'd you, do you put a mixtape together? How did it come to be where you put your highlight tape on, on Twitter? So yeah, after I came down to the C team with them, I was playing pretty well. And it's kind of late in the year. It's like near January. I'm like, I need to get some film for coaches. If I want to pay basketball somewhere, I'm going to need the coaches to be able to see something.

So I asked the coach on one bus ride. It was like an eight-hour bus ride from wherever we were going back to Tennessee. And so I asked if I get out of the film. I got it. So I'm just on this bus ride screen recording all my clips. I get all my clips put together. And then I send it over to my other friend back home. He puts it together in like a mix.

After he does that, he sends it back to me. The Believe Prep Academy Twitter page hosts it. And then I get a DM from both of them. Ohio and long. So, so, so you get a, how long, how late, how much, how long was it before it was posted and you got a DM? Um, it was probably like two days. Uh, and the DM, the DM happened one day after it was posted, the DMs. At, at any point in time, so you played for a guy David Martinson, right, at Boone, like you said, good high school program.

At any point in time, did your coat, you make any contact with him like about, like, hey, I'm at a prep school. I might go play Division I. Like, this is the guy who you weren't playing much for. Was there any relationship there, which he was almost surprised at your success? No, I haven't really talked much with him, to be honest.

Sometimes, maybe like once or twice a year, I'll go down and play basketball in the school and I'll say hi. But we really haven't talked much. So now you talk to Ohio, you. What was it about going up to Appalachia, Appalachia, that was like, okay, I want to do this? So I went on visits to both schools. It was a hard decision.

I really like the culture of Ohio, like the teammates and the guys around me. Like Ben Vanderpast who's still here. He was my host. I really like, I really vibe with him once I got here. here. And I thought it was a great fit for me and I thought I could play the way I'd want to play here as well. So you show up on campus, okay? What do you remember? What was it like? This is after I'm committed here. Yeah. It was nice. The campus is really nice. Facilities are nice. Nothing I've ever really seen. I mean like, I mean, like, I mean,

like again, are you like first, how big were you last year when you first showed up? I was 6-2161. So you're still, you're still growing. You're still adding weight and adding muscle like as, as this goes on. Did you feel like you belonged, right? Because there's this, you know, C team, B team, A team, prep school. You know, you go up, you got two offers. Like when you showed up on campus, we're like, oh, I got this or was there was there a process?

because a lot of guys, I mean, I remember I showed up, and I had a really good high school career, and I was really well regarded. And I felt like I belong. Then we started playing. I was like, damn, these are men. This is a lot harder than I thought. What was it like for you when you first showed up? You know, I was a little nervous about that at first, but things were pretty good for me to start.

I remember coming into my visit, the coach telling me, you know, you'd get like, Backup, point guard roll, played about 15 minutes, possibly growing over the years. But I ended up starting my first year. You know, things went pretty good that summer and that fall before the season. Now, at what point in time

did your teammates know you didn't, you only started one game in high school? Your college teammates. When I first got here in my summer, I didn't really talk to anybody, to be honest. I was kind of very, very, focused, kind of isolated. I guess towards the end of summer, you know, team bonding kind of went on.

And that's when I started to tell people. And they were like, what? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was the common reception. What was your first winter like? Winter? Oh, that was that was a.

that was something else i mean i got a little bit of a of a taste of it because i lived in tennessee and it would snow there sometimes um the lowest they'd get was probably like 10 degrees which is which is similar to here so i i had kind of experienced that before um but it wasn't cold every cold and gray every day in the midwest is is very very different than what you're what you're accustomed to no yeah Yeah, it definitely took some adjusting too, but, you know, now it's fine. It's fine. Your game, and I'm friends with Rashad Phillips. We played against each other.

We played at the same time in college. Obviously, he's kind of a legend Orlando. He works with guys, and he was the one who first pointed you out to me going back a couple months ago. But it's not just that you've grown and you've added muscle. Like your game has evolved, as you said, when you're high school, you're just a shooter. Now you're a point guard kind of does everything. Scoring point kind of does everything.

Take me through like in terms of work. Are you always an individual workout guy? Do you get in the gym and you just shoot and work on your game? Or you just, I want to go play and I just play all day? Kind of both of the last ones. Me and my my best friend, Kobe, we'd always go down to the gym. This is in high school. You know, just play a lot of one-on-one.

Watch a lot of film and a lot of guys. I watch a lot of, watch a lot of LeBron James, watch a lot of Chris Paul. Those two guys, I've really studied both of their games heavily. And then obviously... They have two of the weirdest stepbacks, right? Like, LeBron's got that weird kind of step to the side, step back. You've got to break that out. If you really study LeBron, you've got to have the, can you make the LeBron side step, weird step back thing?

You know what I'm talking about, right? That shot he shoots from three. I probably did it once last year. You got to break that. You got to break that out and then get the clip and then screenshot it on the bus the same way you blew up. And then send it to LeBron be like, look, I have been studying your game. And then Chris Paul, like, he only shoots going right, literally, only, but you can't stop it. It's just crazy how you can't stop the fact that you know he's going right.

So one of the things that fascinates me about you is that you do have good feel for game situations, end of games. So it's not that you didn't play growing up. Obviously, you played that Tennessee. You played that elite team. He played in tournaments, but not having played in big moments in high school, the prep school games don't always mean nearly as much. How have you been able to kind of assimilate to real game situations, time, score, possessing, shot clock, and things like that? while playing in college?

I might not have played in a bunch of games like that, but like I said, I've watched for years and years and years, a lot of close games, time and clock management, a lot of high-a-key plays from, you know, Chris and LeBron, and it's just something that I look at

and see that I can emulate. You mentioned your friend Kobe. Where is he now? he's down in Florida right now he's looking to find a school for himself right now too so what what is your relationship like with him since kind of you've blown up and you become this kind of megastar he's like that's my boy that's my boy we used to shoot the gym in high school I do it all along oh nothing's really changed you know I still talk to him like every day yeah he he actually went viral one time in high high school

school himself. It's, nothing has changed. Okay. So then this is what's crazy though, right? Like you've gone viral, you've blown up. Everybody knows you are. But there's nobody on campus.

There's nobody to come up and be like, you know, I saw you on social media. Right. So the good is everybody knows you are. The bad is it's not helping you as much with the ladies as it should be. No, no. I actually have a girlfriend. I have a girlfriend.

So she's probably happy for the social distancing of everybody else, right? Because it would have been a bunch of things. This team is very talented. What did you learn from the Illinois game? That we stay consistent. We can play with anyone in the country. I was very proud of our guys. You know, we watched a lot of film prior to the game.

You know, it was the third game in three days, but we had been watching before, and especially after our first two games. We really made a game plan on attacking what they would do on ball screens and whatnot. And our guys executed great. DJ Wilson said great screens. Van Van Van der Pross was great on both ends. Lending McDay on defense. Miles Brown on defense.

You know, it was a great effort. We just got a stay consistent now. I got a chance to coach Kofi in one of these Pango's deals. which is like they just go up and down and dunk on each other. And one, I really like him as a kid, but two, that is a grown ass man, right? That is a big, they don't have dudes like that in the Mac. They may have used to have guys like that in the Mac,

but they don't. Kobe Coburn, what was he like to play against? Yeah, you're right. Everything you said is true. He's huge. He's huge. And it's crazy because I would say, DJ, he held his own.

You know, there's the time he'd be back. he'd be backing him down and DJ was chesting him up, walling him up strong and it was impressive. Yeah, I mean, that's, that's a big, that's a big human being. And I was like, man, I first saw him, he was like 16. I was like, no way. Show me his driver's license. Like, okay, okay, I'll, I'll buy it.

I guess you are 16. That is a big dude. For you personally, what do you want to improve it? What do you want to get better at? for this year definitely want to cut down on my turnovers and also shoot more off the dribble maybe get more threes up this year those two areas that are something I really worked on what has the season been like with so much to the unknown you know and it's it's weird because again this kind of comes back to i'm guessing prep school probably prepared you for it better than

some other guys more the traditional route in that the three and three days that's like an a u tournament right that's you know everybody makes it out to be so hard that's better i'd prefer to play as opposed to practice and have to play defense the whole time um but with all the unknown with having the social distance from other students with having to you know kind of just be you know be safe and be smart what's this been like for you for you um i mean it's been an adjustment but i i i don't mind it uh Imagine an Olympics where doping is not only legal but encouraged. It's the enhanced games.

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A win is a win. A win is a win. I don't care what I'm saying. Yep, that's me, Clifford Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, the reactions, my journey from basketball to college football,

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Like I said, I have my girlfriend, and it's fine. When people see your story, when they hear about your mom and how you kept going, when you hear about high school and you kept going, what does that come from? How do you relate to somebody else who's going through a tough time that there can be something better on the horizon? I would say really just having faith,

trusting in God's plan and knowing that everything happens for a reason. If you can truly believe that everything happens for a reason, you know, you'll get through a lot. But how, like, the world was kicking your ass for a while, right? it was it was handing you asswhippins. But I mean, in those moments where you're like, my mom is everything I have.

Like how do you, it's great to say you have faith, but is it simply praying to God? Is it finding it within your soul? How does that work? No, yeah, it is. You know, and it goes a long way. And my mom would always tell me that to just stay strong, keep praying to God and everything will work itself out.

And I'm telling you, if you truly believe in and your faith is strong, it can take you a long way. Is it harder to make it, which you've done, or to sustain it? Right. Because last year you got to start as a freshman out of nowhere. Now everybody knows who you are. Is it more difficult now when you're on top of people's skydine reports? You know, I would always say it's harder to sustain.

You know, it's kind of easy to be the underdog. You know, when it's more expected of you, I would say it's probably harder. In this scenario, I don't know. I don't really like to look at it as pressure to keep it for me. You know, I'm just trying to do whatever it takes to win each night. Well, I can tell you from the people I know in Orlando, and from kind of everybody who has followed the story, people are just amazed by your perseverance and by what you've done.

And it does feel like it's only, you kind of only crack in the surface, right? Like you just, it's one of those, the more you watch, the more you're going to getting better. And now you're getting that kind of scores, confidence and almost a little arrogance where you just know it's going in,

right? Does it, is it feel different before you believed it, but now everybody in that bench believes it? That's got to be a little different, different deal. Yeah, my teammates, they always tell me to keep shooting. They know I like to pass, but, you know, they've instilled a lot of confidence in me,

and it's awesome. Definitely looking to keep growing it this season. How many shots a day? I don't know, a specific number, but before and after every practice for about 20 minutes each, I get up a lot of shots. Listen, congrats on your success so far. I can't wait to see what's next. from you and really appreciate

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And you start, you know, living in multiple places. But to have that sort of belief in self, to never give up on your dream, even when you're going to college as a regular student, that's usually time when you should give up that idea. And then to go from that to being a recruited scholarship athlete and from that to being a starter in college basketball so early in his career, the whole thing is nothing short of absolutely remarkable.

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A win is a win. A win. A win is a win. Yep, that's me, Cliver Taylor the 4th. You might have seen the skits, my basketball and college football journey, or my career in sports media. Well, now I'm bringing all of that excitement

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