The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Ben Roethlisberger, Drew Brees, Dak Prescott, and where Colin was right & wrong

Episode Date: September 16, 2019

Colin discusses the injuries of Pittsburgh Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger, and New Orleans Saints QB Drew Brees, how it will most likely affect their teams, what he likes and doesn't about Dallas Cowboys QB Dak Prescott, and where he was right and wrong over the weekend. Guests include Greg Jennings, Daryl Johnston, Trent Dilfer, and Tony Gonzalez. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we are live in Los Angeles on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio and FS1. One hour from now where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong. Joy Taylor is joining me, the Pittsburgh girl. If you're a Steelers fan in America, this is a crushing blow. Big Ben is out for the season.

Well, it wasn't looking too great. It wasn't trending well for the season. Steelers to begin with, but this pretty much closes the chapter on this season. Yeah, we start there. Big Ben is out for the season. So I didn't know this until about two minutes ago. And I had noticed over the last two weeks. Now, the Steelers were leading at home against Seattle when Big Ben got hurt and they ended up losing. Judge somebody's value on what happens to the company or the relationship when they leave. Good luck, Pittsburgh. without Big Ben.

Listen, they were still very exciting last year without Lavin Bell. But you watch them against New England and you watch him against Seattle and something was wrong with Big Ben. His accuracy last year was amazing. He completed 67% of his throws last year. But in the last two weeks, something was wrong with Big Ben and something yesterday against Seattle popped. Doesn't help he was facing Belichick and Pete Carroll, great defensive coaches.

But you can judge somebody. The AFC is done this morning. New England, Kansas City, it's done. The question now, do they play at Arrowhead in January, or do they play in Foxborough? I mean, I thought that this morning before this, now it's over. I mean, spare me on Cleveland. Tennessee lost at home to Indianapolis's backup. Baltimore, they're fun, Lamar Jackson, but they struggled at home with Arizona.

Rookie quarterback, second game, rookie head coach, second game. Chargers lost to Detroit. What the hell was that? I mean, look around. I mean, Houston struggled with Gardner Minshu. They came with it a second of losing. You start looking around the AFC this morning. There are some fun stories.

Cleveland tonight could be fun. Baltimore is really fun. But, I mean, Tennessee, you can't trust Tennessee. You can't trust Houston. You're crossing your fingers watching Deshawn Watson ducked to get out of the way of sacks. It's over. The AFC is over because Pittsburgh was formidable. The owner, the GM, the coach, the quarterback, the offensive line.

They beat New England last year. formidable organization. It's over. And I know, listen, Big Ben may wear some of you out. I get it. But whereas everybody loves Cam and he's never had back-to-back winning seasons, Big Ben threw for, you know, how many yards did he throw for last year? He liked 67% completion percentage. But you watched him in these first two games against New England and Seattle, and something was off. His accuracy was below average. He's completing like 57% of his throws. Now the injury, boom season over for Pittsburgh. And I didn't feel that way as long as Big Ben would return.

They were leading Seattle. Mike Tomlin's never had a losing season. This is a great organization. Best offensive line arguably in the AFC. I don't trust anybody in their division. I was not going to bail on Pittsburgh this morning. It was one of my rants. I'm like, eh, I'd be close.

You know, just because you lose to a Hall of Fame coach and quarterback yesterday and a Hall of Fame coach and quarterback in the opener, New England's pretty good. So Seattle. Seattle's won eight to. of nine, I wasn't going to bail on the Steelers. But now Big Ben's out, season over. And again, I've been a

critic at times of Big Ben and Aaron Rogers. You notice what Green Bay looks like without Aaron? You figure out pretty quick, he's the team. This Steeler defense is now struggling. What's Pittsburgh without Big Ben? I don't know. I haven't seen much of it. You're going to find

out. They're going to be Green Bay without Aaron Rogers. So I don't have to love everything a quarterback does and Rogers and Big Ben certainly qualified. as that. But the season's over. You can't trust anybody in the AFC except New England and Kansas City.

So Andy Reid, Belichick, mark it down. We just got to figure out are they playing in snow in Foxborough or rain and hail in Kansas City? But that's what it feels like this morning. Now I'm going to move over to the NFC and the Saints. Now, Drew Breeze this morning is out for six weeks. I do not think their season is over. But this is what's interesting.

My strongest play yet, yesterday, my strongest bet was Rams over the Saints. That's with Drew Brees. Because sometimes a brand is so strong. And if it lasts long enough, it's hard to unwrap that. Like, you know, the restaurant you go to for 20 years and the food's great. Somebody retires, they change chefs and you still go to it. And you just don't want to believe the food's not as good. For the last 15 years in this league. There have been three consistent things. New England wins. Cleveland's dysfunctional. And the Saints offense is dynamic. It hasn't been dynamic since post- Thanksgiving last year. And we just can't wrap our brains around it. Yesterday, Drew Brees, two possessions,

interception, three and out. Do you know since last year, week 13, we can't wrap our brains around this. The Saints' offense isn't even average. It's bad. It's 22nd in points. 19th in yards. 19th in passing. 20th in yards per play. And a lot of those games were at home.

This is an eroding brand. Drew Breeze does not throw the ball down the field. Teddy Bridgewater, his backup does not. And with the Saints, there's so much sympathy for that bad call. And yesterday there's a bad call. And oh, my God, the refs are out. This is not a ref. issue. That game in New Orleans

against the Rams went to overtime. They couldn't move the ball. That game yesterday, Breeze couldn't move it when he was in. Teddy couldn't move it when he was in. This is an offense that is not very dynamic. Only one other team in the

NFL throws the ball down the field less than New Orleans. That's their reality. They're 0-and-7 against the spread in their last seven games. What does that tell you? The brand, the fans are betting on something, and that's not the reality. So, and this is nothing against Drew Brees. But this was why this was my strongest play yesterday.

I think we are so caught up in their brand, which has been so strong and so dynamic for years that we just can't admit. What we're watching now is a pop-gun offense. Dak throws the ball down the field way better. And if you notice this in the NFL, with all the spacing in the NFL, you've got to have a deep threat. that's why Belichick went and got AB. Patrick Mahomes, Deshawn Watson. That's why Philadelphia, one of the best GMs in the league, went out and got Deshawn Jackson.

What you're seeing in the NFL now, the Rams throw the ball. That's why they paid Brandon Cook so much money. Look at the top teams in the NFL. Like, as the game is changing, quarterbacks now, mobile quarterbacks. That's a trend. Here's the other trend. You got to be able to beat people over the top. and all the teams I like in this league can do it.

Green Bay does it. A, B to New England does it. Seattle does it. Houston does it. Philadelphia does it. The Rams do it. The chargers can do it. So I think what you're seeing with New Orleans, everybody's going to blame the

refs. Again yesterday, everybody's going to blame the refs. But this football team in New Orleans, with or without Drew Brees, is not the same. It is just a, that's with Alvin Camaro. That's with Sean Payton. It's just a ding, ding, ding, ding, and you can't. Why did the Rams win yesterday? Wasn't the officials.

They made two huge over-the-top plays. One in the first quarter, one in the fourth. Big plays down the field. Saints no longer do it. So Big Ben is out. I think it ends the Steelers season because you'll notice what happens when somebody really gifted. leaves the company or leaves the room, the room changes, the temperature changes.

I do not think the Saints season is over, but I think it was incredibly limited. That's why I did not have them in the herd hierarchy last week, and I got a lot of heat. I'm like, watch the games. Watch the games. The Saints don't scare anybody offensively. They don't throw the ball over the top. All right. So I got a lot of things to address here.

Obviously, these stories are massive. And for the record, I want to throw out a theory. Maybe it doesn't matter with quarterbacks. Maybe it does. The trend in the NFL is starters don't play in the preseason. The downside to that is games one and two, you're going from zero to 60. A lot of players hurt. And the preseason was not just about getting better at execution.

The NFL preseason, I was told this years ago by Bill Pullian, you got to get hit for three weeks. You got to get those calluses. You got to get ready to get hit. Now starters don't play in the preseason. They just don't play. The Rams started it last year. They don't play.

Did you notice how tired teams looked in week one? Tired athletes get hurt. And you're seeing it all over the NFL. There's just a lot of injuries. And it's a trend. And this is one of these things. The NFL you're going to see probably next year. A few more starters play a few more snaps.

in the preseason. This is a very cyclical league, right? Like things change constantly in the NFL. The big trend now, don't play preseason. It feels like to me in the first couple of weeks, we're having a lot of injuries because you're asking athletes to go from zero to 60 and stuff snapping, stuff's getting hurt. Players aren't used to getting hit. You're seeing it all, I mean, Lavian Bell, a great running back, didn't even have that

many carries, MRI first weekend. It felt like in Pittsburgh, it carried the ball 350 times a year, never got hurt. He goes to the Jets. first game he's hurt. Why? He didn't take a hit for two years. So that's a real trend. Coming up next, I have to address Dak Prescott. You know, my opinion has been he's good and he's getting better. But I think there's a reason why it's so hard for people outside of Dallas to put their arms around him.

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Listen to the Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. So I'm watching Dak Prescott, who is good in getting better. I said this before the season started. Last year in his last eight games, he went seven and one. More attempts, more yards, more accuracy. I think Dak's a, like a lot of us in life, I mean, a lot of us are slow starters. You know, I've said this often on this show. What was your parental situation like?

What was your schooling situation like? Some kids don't get a fair shake. I mean, if you'd have given Dak Prescott in college, Nick Saban is a coach and not Mississippi State's talent, maybe he'd be a lot better. Tim Tebow had Florida's talent. Dak Prescott had Mississippi State's talent. There's a big gap there. So, Dax's very good. And I was watching Dack yesterday.

And Dax's problem is, and I don't think it's a problem, but it's a reality with fans why so many fans struggle with him. He doesn't have a defining trait. Arm, eh. Athlete, size, eh. Accuracy, hit and miss. His greatest quality is. leadership and what is leadership? I asked Jimmy Johnson that once. What's leadership? He goes, I don't know. Troy Eichmann was a great leader. I can't define it. It's almost like every car

commercial you watch. Have you watched car commercials from this point forward. They're always trying to sell you a defining trait. Luxury, speed, power, and torque, towing capacity, and they keep repeating it and repeating it. They're selling you a defining trait. Dak doesn't have one. If DAC was an automobile, he'd get a really high rating from JD Power and Associates. And does anybody know what that is? He'd get a five-star safety rating. Nobody wants to buy a car on safety ratings. That's Dak's problem. You know, luxury, speed, power, torque, towing capacity. What's his defining trait? What's reliability? What is leadership? But I'll say this, again, look around the league this morning. Big Ben out for the year. Drew Breeze, out until around

Thanksgiving. Andrew Luck retired. Nick Foles out. Sam Darnold Mono. Some of the young quarterbacks. I mean, we love Lamar Jackson, but they've beaten Miami, the worst team in the league in Arizona. Maybe the second worst team in the league. Do we really know? You start looking around this league. Carson Wentz is in the tent so much. I think he's on a camping trip. Sean Watson, I'm crossing my fingers. He doesn't get, you know, something broken. You start comparing DAC and the numbers don't lie. In his last 10 games, okay, winning matters.

He's won 9 of 10. But there are some numbers behind this that you cannot deny. In his last 10 games, he's number one in the league in completion percentage. He's number two in passing yards. He's number three in passer ratings. For years and years, we did this with Russell Wilson. There were all these critics with Russell Wilson. And I kept saying, A, he wins, and he's got the second best passer ready to Aaron Rogers in league history.

It goes, Aaron, Russell, and Tom Brady. You can't play for five years. Have that and not be good. Dax good. But he doesn't have a defining trait. And so it's hard for us. What exactly is? He's good.

Look around the league this morning. Look around the league this morning. We're a couple of bad breaks from not having Wentz and Deshawn Watson. Big Ben's already out. By the way, Cam is now reeling. Joe Flacco, give me a break. Tribiskey's limited. So's James Winston.

So's Marcus Marriota. You trust Philip Rivers in a big spot? I got to tell you something. You look around this league. We're going into week three. Dax playing Miami. You know the safest thing on the board next week? New England's going to win and Dax going to win.

And guess who the second winning his quarterback is in the NFL in the last three years? Brady's one and Dax two. We're going into week three. The two guarantees are New England's going to win and Dax going to win. I'm sorry, folks. It's hard. What do you grab with Dack? Leadership.

What is leadership? Jimmy Johnson's one of the best coaches of my life. He can't define it. Jimmy's like, I don't know, I can't realize. It's fuzzy. But Troy was a leader. Well, what was it? I don't know.

Sure. He just was a leader. So when that's your thing, that's your go-to, like Dan Marino, we had the arm in the release. You know, with Brady, we know so much about his, you know, accuracy and his precision and but it's hard with that what do we luxury speed torque power nah nah nah nah nah nah nah five star safety rating jd power and associates i i'm watching them yesterday folks and i'm looking at the numbers 26 of 30 seven yards they got him weapons more attempts every year i it's you can't deny it anymore you just can't deny it anymore guys good how about

that stiff arm down the field on josh norman classic dac prescott josh norman badmouthed before the game. Dak didn't say a thing before the game or after it, but during the game, he had a little scramble, and he found him, and he stiff-armed him, and that's what Dak does. Didn't pop off before the game. Didn't pop up. Just in the game,

a little subtle reminder, Josh, I'm pretty good. Joy with the news. No, no, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. So speaking of pretty good, Patrick Mahomes, he's pretty good as well.

He had another great performance in the Chiefs, to 10 win against the Raiders yesterday. He went 30 of 44, 443 yards, four touchdowns, and no interceptions. And he also made some NFL history yesterday. Mahomes is the first quarterback to ever throw for 300 yards and four touchdowns six times in the first 40 games of his career. And he did it in 19 games. Dan Marino and Kurt Warner are the only other quarterbacks to do it five times in their first 40 career games. His arm strength is, you know, I always knock on Trubisky.

the ball dies at like 24 yards. Watch these throws on our TV on FS1. His ball at about 25 yards just maintains. Like he flicks his wrist. His arm strength, he's not even showing off. He can make that 43-yard seam throw, back foot, flip. His arm strength is far of like. No, it's remarkable.

And I was saying this watching him yesterday. Sometimes you see a quarterback throw ball far, and it's like, that took some effort. You're going to put your whole body into that. And maybe it's not so accurate. It's not even like he's moving his arm. It's just like, it's just literally a canon. He is a once a decade talent.

They don't come off the factory line. Like it's like LeBron out of high school, first game in the NBA 20. You're like, okay, they don't, they don't, even Kobe wasn't that. Even, I mean, I think this kid, just in terms of talent, thank God he's got the right coach. He's a good kid. Well, I mean, yeah, he's in a great situation, obviously. He's the great franchise, great coach, and he has a lot of weapons around him. But his talent is undeniable despite all of those things.

Cartoonish. It's between them and the Patriots at this point. Their next four games are the Ravens, which is going to be a great game. At the Lions against the Colts and the Texans at home. So their next division game is Week 7 of the Broncos. And if you look at the AFC West right now, they are obviously at the top. And it looks like a major step ahead of everyone else, Raiders, Chargers, Raiders, Chargers, and the Broncos. So another great performance out of him, and all in the second quarter as well.

So speaking of the Ravens, Lamar Jackson also continued his strong start on Sunday through for 272 yards, two touchdowns, and rushed for 120 yards in the Ravens 2317 win over the Cardinals. And with this performance, Lamar became the first player in NFL history with at least 250 passing yards and 120 rushing yards in a regular season game. This was a great throw right there. That was his best throw of the day. That was a brilliant throw. They did such a good job with him. I mean, it's time to kill the narrative around Lamar Jackson and probably time for everyone to just admit they were wrong about him,

myself included. Not that I didn't think he was going to be talented. I just had a lot of skepticism about the step he was going to take from last year to this year. Oh, big job. And he clearly put in the work and has developed into a franchise quarterback. And enough with the running thing. The running thing is going to make him very difficult for defenders.

Like he is a legitimate multi-level skill. starting quarterback. Who do they play this week? They play Kansas City. Yeah, so that's not a great defense.

No, I mean, I think they'll lose their next game against Kansas City, but then they play the Browns and then they're at home, then they're at the Steelers, and then they have the Bengals at home. So they can tie up the AIS North

pretty easily in the next four games. So the Browns are celebrating today. You know, they're like, big bands out, we're good. And it's like, yeah, but Baltimore's way better. That's how the NFL is. You never know.

Yesterday I watched four games that were decided basically on a play. This list league is crazy. You thought Pittsburgh would be great. You didn't know what to make a Baltimore. Today, Baltimore looks like the power in the division, and Pittsburgh could be done. I mean, yeah, they can, I mean, they have the Browns,

the Steelers, and the Bengals in their next four games. So they could go three and one, lose a respectable game to the Chiefs, which I think is what's going to happen and then be atop the AFC North. Finally, Jalen Hertz continues to light up college football. The Oklahoma quarterback led his team to a 4814 win over UCLA on Saturday. He threw for 289 yards and three touchdowns

and he rushed for 100, and 20 yards in another touchdown. So he is the first Oklahoma quarterback to pass for 200 yards and rush for 100 yards in the first half of the game. And he's the first big 12 quarterback with 100 or more rushing yards in the first quarter since Vince Young in 2005. By the way, I have a good source on this. It's not the losing. Chip Kelly is not into recruiting. He is not played nice with the boosters.

There are a lot of issues. This is not just losing for Chip Kelly. That game, it wasn't that they lost to Oklahoma and Jalen Hurts. by the way. Which was expected. Yeah, and Jalen Hurts in Oklahoma are going to win almost, if not all their games, all but one of their games, right? UCLA, the people upstairs, like Chip Kelly has no interest hanging out with them, not playing nice with the boosters. UCLA, there is a lot of internal angst on Chip Kelly. Well, he's 3 and 12 as UCLA head coach in 0 and 3 this year for the second straight year.

That's, you know, when it comes to coaching in L.A., there's another layer of it. that you don't necessarily get in other places. So maybe in a smaller school or a Midwest school or even in the SEC, you know, if you have a certain prestige about you you may not have to do as much of that type of work. Recruiting, I don't even know what that means. Like that's what do you mean you don't like recruiting?

It's college football. That's what you have to do. And at UCLA, you better do that at the highest level because you can't, don't take transfers and there's a whole other expectation when it comes to academics. But it's L.A. You're going to have to rub elbows a little bit.

Like, you've got to be really likable and have a lot of personality and keep a lot of people happy. Ben Howland won games at UCLA in basketball, no personality. By the way, Pete Carroll was the last person that made an L.A. College Sports Team matter. Big personality.

Like, I'm sorry, but it's part of the job in L.A. It's not, this is not Tuscaloosa. We got two NBA, two NFL. We got a mountains, beach. It's Hollywood. There's no way around it. And at UCLA, at that, like, no, you're going to have to come in with a little personality.

And Chip Kelly has no interest doing anything, but writing up plays. And I guess it's not playing well with... Well, that would work if the plays that you were writing up were helping them win. Yeah. A joy of the news. Well, that's the news.

And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, top of the hour. Let's bring in 10 NFL seasons, Super Bowl, multiple-time Pro Bowl, Greg Jennings, Fox Sports Analyst. I thought of you, yes, I was watching Chris Carter doing some in-game analysts work,

and I thought of you because you've done that. It's so much fun. We love having you in the studio. So let's start with this. I've been very critical. In fact, I've said Big Ben reminds me of Aaron Rogers, can be passive-aggressives, says stuff on radio, he won't say to your face. I think part of being a great quarterback is leadership.

Aaron and Big Ben are first ballot Hall of Famers. But I will say this about Big Ben. They were leading when he got hurt yesterday. There's a lot of things I still love about Pittsburgh. Hall of Fame coach, great O line, tremendous ownership front office. They've got talent everywhere. I feel like Pittsburgh season's over. I feel like it's done, do you?

Yeah, I do too. It's just hard for a guy like Mason Rudolph, although he played well. Yeah, it was okay. He played well yesterday. Show some signs of life, if you will, but it's just so hard in this league. And specifically that division,

when you have Baltimore, the defenses that you're going to face. The weather or late. Yeah, it's a lot more that's going to have to transpire for them to win, and it's going to be on the shoulder. of a young second year who's really playing as a rookie basically because it's first time playing. You know this. The northern divisions in the NFL, it's not a coincidence. Jay Cutler Big Arm, Aaron Rogers, Big Arm, for years, Flacco Big Arm, Big Ben, Big Arm.

It's like not a coincidence. You're playing outdoors and lousy weather. Andy Dalton doesn't have a big arm. He struggles post- Thanksgiving. It's not just that Big Ben's better than Mason Rudolph. Ben, that ball cuts through, wind and cold. and now you're talking about a smaller quarterback. You know, I just think to me it feels like you're going to see the value of Ben.

Yeah, and weather plays a role, the inclement weather, but even the turf gets a lot more challenging because as a quarterback, you're looking at Big Ben, a much more girthier quarterback, hits the ground, can still get back up, can take those brunts, not only from the hits, but the contact to the ground, because now you're playing on high's field. that's natural grass. The ground gets hard in those later months.

So is Lambo. Yeah. Like, man, it changes the game. But I just don't see Pittsburgh doing what the potential that was there in front of them with Ben Rothesburg at the ham. Okay. Now, Drew Breeze is out. Now, my takeaway has been on New Orleans.

And I said this last year after the cowboy game. Their brand is so dynamic. It's hard for us to unravel that when their offense becomes. a pop gum. Since week 13 last year, they're not even average. Their bottom third in the NFL in points, yards passing per play, Drew does not throw deep. So I actually think Bridgewater, who doesn't throw deep well, is actually the perfect six-week backup for Drew. I think they'll actually win some games. I don't think, because whereas Big Ben is this towering guy to Mason Rudolph, Bridgewater is a lesser version of Drew Brees. The knock on him is,

he doesn't throw the ball down the field. Well, in the last year, Drew doesn't throw the ball down the field, which hurts their offense. I don't feel like the Saints season is over. I just thought it was limited coming in. Your thoughts on the breeze out? Yeah, I don't think that the Saints season is over, but I do believe that their defense has to get back to playing the way they once were playing a year to two years ago, where they were stopping everyone.

They were doing the things that was necessary for them to win ball games because of what you're alluding to, Drew Brees was taking the approach of, I'm not going to make mistakes. We just need you guys to not allow other opponents to get in the end zone. We'll still score. It's going to be a little different. We're going to hang our hat on the running game, Alva Camara out of the backfield, make sure Michael Thomas gets his touches. It's going to look different offensively. Not as dynamic. Not as dynamic. We're not putting up 35, 40 points a game. That's not who we are. But we will score points. We just need the defense to step up and do their part. And I think Teddy Bridgewater, watching him yesterday, the one thing that I was a little disappointed with was his inability to fill it and throw it.

It was almost like he was still in that immature stage of I still want to see it develop and then throw the ball. Can I defend him, though? He didn't. He wasn't going to start this game. It's hard to be thrown in front of Aaron Donald on the road when you didn't do the prep work with the ones. I understand that. I totally understand that. But when I look across the National Football League and I look at backup situation,

they have, and they being the New Orleans Saints, one of the better backup situations. Then you look at the Philadelphia Eagles yesterday. Carson Wins goes out. McCown comes in and he's just starting. They're often started moving. He's just dinking and dunking. It's not a matter of can you still perform at the level as your number one? It's can you progressively move our offense?

can we still do what we want to do is the playbook still open and the playbook is still open to New Orleans Saints with Teddy Bridgewater but then to your point because they weren't anticipating that they do things differently and I think that's why the New Orleans Saints

will still be okay because Sean Peyton he's such an offensive genius when it comes to making sure he puts not only his quarterback but his team in the best situations he's going to put Teddy he's going to look he understands what Teddy Bridgewater does well and how he can thrive, and that's what they're going to roll with.

Yeah, I guess my takeaway is on the, I haven't bought the Saints for about eight to ten weeks, and I don't think the gap between what Breeze can do and what Bridgewater can do is that wide anymore. And I love Drew. But at the end of last year, New Orleans offense has no ability to go over the top. Houston does. A.B. to New England.

Big Bend to A.B. did. Kansas City does. There's a lot of it. I think New Orleans, and this goes opposite to brand, is a very limited downfield offense. Now, stay there. Aaron Rogers got into a confrontation yesterday, and I loved it. I think we have to come to terms with Dak Prescott. He's good, and folks, he is getting better.

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Listen to Superhuman on the I-Hard Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, guys? This is Clever Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Clivert Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff, like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game.

This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue 42. Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her. What? Hey, Ms. Parker.

Listen to the Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. For years and years, I've said about Aaron Rogers. Love his talent, but he's too passive-aggressive. The Kobe Bryant's are just aggressive, aggressive. Michael Jordan Punch teammates, Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Troy Aikman, call-out teammates, yell. I am totally okay with that because I do believe in life, you can often say, here's a real tactic. Listen, let's just sleep on it. And that's a real thing.

In sports, you have the clock and you have downs. So when Fit hits the shan and you've got a minute 20 to figure it out, you have to confront. You and I have to argue. Let's get this right. We've got a minute 20 left. Sports on the sidelines because of a clock. Outside of baseball, all sports have a clock. And football's got downs.

So when problems happen, we have to be confrontational with this. You and I have to figure it out. We can't sleep on it like life. Let's sleep on it, wake up in the morning, reset ourselves, honey, we'll be in a better mood. So yesterday, Aaron and Matt start barking, and I'm like, I love it. This is exactly what he wouldn't do with Mike McCarthy. It was eye rolling, throw the ball out of bounds. What did you make of the confrontation?

Yeah, I'm with you there. It's a matter of understanding what we are trying to get done. We're trying to win. They came out blazing yesterday, and the offense looked great. their passing game, they had an established running game, they were rolling. And this is when you get to the point in the game and things aren't going right, you start to get frustrated. It has nothing to do with him trying to show up Matt LaFleur or Matt LaFleur trying to do it his way.

It's like, look, let's get back to whatever we were doing. Let's get back to that. What are we doing? Let's go. Our defense is special. They're doing things that we haven't seen them do in the last few years. like we can't be the reason why we let this team get back in the game. By the way, Green Bay's offense is going to start to hum, folks.

They've played the Bears and the Vikings. These are top five defenses. They are. And they're winning. And they're 2 and O. And they've got a rookie head coach. The only thing I didn't like about this with Aaron, he kept walking. Stop. It was aggressive, but a little passive aggressive.

No, I don't mind him walking because if he stops and he makes it into this big ordeal, then what we do as the media, now we're like, oh, there it is right there. but what he's showing is like, yeah, I'm frustrated, but I'm not going to harp on it. Let's get to the sideline. We're going to get over to the bench. We'll talk about it. You'll get my real sentiments over there and let's move on.

It's not a big deal to, it's not big enough deal to sit there on the sideline while the cameras are all there and just bark back and forth. That's not going to do anything. But I did think this was a moment where I never saw this with McCarthy. It was eye rolling. It was kind of, he led the NFL last year in throwaways, meaning basically he'd bailed. on the play before the ball was snapped, threw it away. That's passive aggressive.

This is, I hope this young coach gets into Aaron. Aaron gets into him because in sports, you got a clock. You got to solve stuff. You can't sleep on it. You got to confront it. I read a saying this weekend, great democracies have to have uncomfortable discussions. Great quarterbacks and head coach relationships have to have similarly uncomfortable discussions.

They had one. It worked. All right, let's go to DAC. I'm watching him. I'm watching him. Do you know, number one in completion, number two in passing yards in the last 10 games? Okay, like, by the way, T-Bow won games. I never bought it.

Flacco won an MVP in a Super Bowl. I never really bought it. Andy Dalton won games. I didn't buy it. It's not just the winning here because I've seen guys win. I don't, Tribisky last year, 11 and 3 as a starter. I didn't buy that. I'm watching this and I'm thinking, that's a quarterback.

That's a real quarterback, big, leading. I don't know. You can't, at this point, if you're doubting him, you're just anti-Cowboy, right? Yeah, look, I like everything that I'm seeing out of Dak Prescott. Like, I'm just going to flat out say it. He is on fire right now. You can say what you want. He play the Giants' defense.

He play the Redskins. Look, he's getting it done. 82% completion percentage, you don't do that. I don't care who you're playing. You don't do that. You don't do that. I mean, 60 plus percent on third downs and two games, that is getting it done. That is stepping into the huddle with the play that you have a conviction about,

but you also have a swag about yourself. I love that. I'm going to make it work, period. That's what we're seeing out of Dak Prescott this season. And that's honestly what I thought we would see. Like, we get it. Ezekiel Elliott is what the Cowboys want to hang their hat on. as far as running the football, punching you in the mouth, and you knowing it.

But what Dak Prescott is presenting is that mindset of, look, this is my team. And yes, did we acquire personnel that made me better? Yes, but now it's my turn to make them better and make us better as a team. That's what we're seeing with Dak Prescott. I love every bit of it. Here's what the fans do that drives me nuts. So let Dak Prescott wins. Well, I mean, it was just a Redskins.

It doesn't matter. ask you, outside of New England and Kansas City, if you don't think they're the two best teams in the league, then your television's not working. Take them out. Who's good? I mean, I'm sorry, Philadelphia is loaded. They lost. You can't keep telling me, I mean, I watched the Rams, they're 2 and 0. The first half of both their games were to be kind, ugly. Like, who's good in the league outside of New England, Kansas City? I watched Dallas, and you know what I say? Dallas's offense. Yeah.

Dallas is offense. And I think when you talk about who's good, the Green Bay Packers. I think they're pretty good. The Green Bay Packers, because you kind of know their offense is going to at some point start to really click. Now, they look good coming out of the gates yesterday. And then you, but their defense is for real. That I just didn't know that their defense was going to look like this, this week.

This soon. This soon, being so young and not having played the games together. They look great. I think the Rams, because of their experience together now, they're going to be good. When you start to get to teams in the NFC South, Atlanta Falcons, they have the potential to be special. The whole darn league does. But you just don't know from week to week because they're inconsistent. This feels like, I mean, honestly, folks, this feels like Alabama Clemson in college football.

New England, Kansas City feels like with Big Ben injury, I mean, listen, I like what Baltimore is doing. Let's talk about Baltimore. But I think we have to take, okay, let's take. a step back. They've faced Miami, the worst team in the league, and Arizona could be second worst. I think it's working. My eyes are telling me it's working. But Baltimore's schedule now, I think next week they play somebody tough. They play Kansas City. So it's going to have to be a shootout. You're going to have to drop the, so I think Baltimore is working, but that game yesterday at home with Arizona was real tight late. When you're watching Baltimore, what do,

I know they've done a great job to two receivers, two backs, new coordinator. I mean, Baltimore's really done a nice job. Are we sure it's working? It's worked. That's all I care about. And it goes back to what we were just saying about Dak Prescott and Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, they played the Giants and the Redskins.

Yes, Baltimore has played the Dolphins and the Cardinals. But the big question, and for me, I wasn't out on Lamar Jackson, but I needed to see this. I needed to see him make the throws, when the throws were needed when the team needed him to step up. He's done it against teams that he should have done it against so I'm not going to take

credit away from him because he's been able to do it. In this game yesterday the throw he made to Hollywood Brown. That was the best throw the game. That's the best throw he's made but it was in a crucial moment they needed it. He stepped up and he did something that

we've all been questioning can he do it and that's be accurate and put the ball in a place where his receiver can make a play and he can continue to make his team better. He has been doing that. Now, can he continue to do it? That's to be seen. But we can say that about any and every team and every quarterback in this league.

I want to go to a team. I don't know. A lot of people didn't watch this game. But when you, we, I have to watch football for a living. So I like to watch. Do you? Yeah. I mean, essentially 62% of my show last year is NFL.

Like, this is what we do. Absolutely. So it's really, I really like watching football when it's clever. and fun. We all love Sean McVeigh, and I think he's terrific. I'm not sure he's the best coach in his division. Kyle Shanahan and San Francisco with a bunch of babies. That offense is a bunch of that receiving core. They're all rookies or one-year guys. They did more creative, clever stuff yesterday. I got to have Mike Shanahan on to talk about Kyle because he'll tell me the secrets. You watched them yesterday. As a wide receiver, how much fun would it be to play in this system? How often

were the Niners receivers open by eight yards. That's scheming. The thing that I love about what I'm seeing out of the 49ers and Shanahan and Garapolo and these young guys on this offense is, number one, we couldn't see this last year because Garapolo was absent. That's right. And so he couldn't showcase all of what he really wanted. What we're seeing is not a huge, oh, he's innovating and he's doing all these different.

No, this is formation variation and smart players that can play different positions, present different looks running the same thing, but it looks differently to the defense. And so when you have a scroll or a list of plays, a barrage of plays that you can go to, but you have guys who can interchange. Very New England. Yes, you can interchange these guys and it looks, and the presentation of it looks different. so you have the defense thinking versus just reacting. This is very interesting.

So when you go into a game, if you run 12 plays, but you can make them at the initial, at the outset, they look different. But how many plays in a game were really in Green Bay for you? Go-to plays every week. A lot. A lot of plays were go-to plays. We had guys that could interchange position. I literally remember.

I literally remember running a play I don't know who was against but we were all pretty much interchangeable specifically Donald and I Donald Driver and myself and we ran one play and we ran it earlier in the game and I caught the ball from the same position

in the number three position which is the receiver that's closest to the quarterback kind of the extension of the tight end so it means you got two receivers outside of you. We called the same play we were supposed to be in the same positions Donald looks at me in the huddle and he says, gee, let me run that and you run this so it looks different for the defense. Boom.

That's what Kyle Shanahan is doing outset from jump without players having to do it themselves. And that's what makes your offense thrive. When you have guys who cannot just run a position. They can play football. They can play football and they understand the concept and they can execute it from all the positions. Yeah, San Francisco is really fun to watch. really fun to watch. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong. Hour 2 next. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart

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We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me, he goes, A, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, Brett. My mama want you to weigh better.

What? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clifford show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Oh, on Monday. Hour number two, we are live in Los Angeles. This is The Herd, wherever you may be and however you may be. I Heart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Bummer News, Big Ben out for the year, said it last hour.

I think the Steelers season is over. You know how much you miss a person when they leave an organization or a relationship. Big Ben's out for the year. Drew Breeze is out for six weeks. I think the Steelers season is over. The AFC is done. New England, Kansas City, just where it's going to be playing the AFC championship. Drew Breeze out six weeks.

I don't think the Saints season is over because the truth of the matter is I'm not as high on the Saints as everybody else. I saw them this year. I predicted eight and eight. I don't think Teddy Bridgewater in terms of arm strength is a huge drop off at all from Drew Breeze. And so I think the Saints will still be competitive and fun post- Thanksgiving. Joy Taylor is joining me. A lot of injuries so far in the NFL season. I believe a lot of it is the new trend and not play any starters in the preseason.

and then you go zero to 60 and you get hurt. It feels like that to me. It does. And the two quarterbacks that are injured are not, they're not rookies. They're not in their first couple years. This could change the landscape of the draft a little bit too. Oh, yes, it could.

Absolutely. So every Monday we do this, I have strong opinion. Sometimes I'm right. Sometimes I'm wrong. I'm both. I call myself out and pat myself in the back, which I would prefer in all instances. Here we go, right wrong.

Where Colin was right? I had a very good blazing five. I went four and one. won. I picked Atlanta to beat Philadelphia. They did. I picked the bills, who I think are really interesting to beat the Giants. They did. The Rams won. That was my strongest play of the week. They won. And Denver almost won, but covered. My only loss was Big Ben and the Steelers, but he got hurt. They were leading. But otherwise, a four-and-one blazing five. We are seven and three to start the year. Last year, we had 66% of winning weeks. Fox Bet. Check out the website. Check out

the app, you can win money. A lot of people doubled their money with that FoxBet app yesterday. Where Colin was wrong. Even, regardless of Big Ben's injury, Pittsburgh, I was fooled by the preseason. Sometimes it matters, sometimes it doesn't. Their defense, which was great in the preseason, it's a mess. I mean, Russell Wilson only had six incompletions all day. It threw for over 300 yards. In Seattle, Doug Baldwin retired. Moving the ball down the field was going to be a problem for Seattle. This should have been worse. If Seattle doesn't fumble a couple times,

This could be a blowout late in the game. They don't have a deep threat. Joy was right on that. A, B. I like Juju Smith-Schuster a lot, but he does not separate. That's not who he is. Their running game is incredibly pedestrian. Mike Tomlin's one of my favorite coaches in the history of the league at the podium. Are the players believing in him?

Listen, I understand this taking a while, but the defense has been really, really disappointing. They return a lot of good players. They added good players. I mean, New England added good players. of their defense. They look better than ever. So I missed on Pittsburgh. This big Ben or not, their defense and their running game are just not good

enough in the NFL. Where Colin was right? Strongest opinion of the week was, listen, the Rams were better than the Saints. They were better than the Saints last year, and the Saints are undisciplined. They had 11 penalties yesterday for 87 yards. I don't care if the refs make bad calls. They make bad calls all the time.

They made a horrible call yesterday, and that Denver loss on a roughing the passer, they made a iffy P.I. call against the Steelers on pass interference. This offense for the Saints has been a pop gun offense since week 13 of last year. It's bottom third and virtually everything. I love Drew Breeze, but his arm was tired. That's why I don't think Teddy Bridgewater coming in ruins the season. Teddy can't throw the ball down the field either. So I don't buy the Saints. I think we have sympathy for

them because we love Drew Breeze and they have this incredibly strong brand dynamic, clever, creative. San Francisco's that now. New Orleans isn't. And I, listen, Breeze played two series yesterday, picked off three and out. You'd have seen that for three and a half hours yesterday. Where Colin was wrong. Jalen Hertz is now the best player in college football. You know how you meet people and they restore cars? Lincoln Riley restores quarterbacks. This kid's unbelievable. 80% completion rate. Now it was UCLA, but in three games, no turnover. nine touchdowns, 900-yard passing, 400-yards throwing. And at Alabama, I just thought he's a college quarterback,

and I'm not even sure he's a great college quarterback. I think Lincoln Riley is going to get him drafted. I mean, look at him in the pocket. Big kid, moves well. We have an NFL now where mobility matters, throws the ball effortlessly, finds the open guys, clearly sees the field. Listen, that's why, listen, man, football is the sport in our lives. It's about coaching.

coaching is a big, big deal. Look at Josh Rosen and then look at Lamar Jackson. Who do they inherit? And Jalen Hertz is suddenly unbelievable. I think he's going to get drafted. I thought the minute two arrived to Alabama, I'm like, he's a second best quarterback at his college. Now I think he gets drafted in the first or second round here in a year or two.

Where Colin was right? Oh, Lord, Kirk Cousins. I mean, was that the worst interception ever yesterday? That was just the pits. 14 of 30. Well, Kirk, you've been in this league forever. It was a first in goal. Throw it away.

What are you doing? I mean, I actually did an event years ago with him. He's one of the nicest guys I've ever met. He's just a great kid. But I tell you right now, he hasn't even gotten to his prime time games yet. These are the one o'clock games. Wait until he gets on television. You can't tell me Minnesota coaches are not completely worn out

because this roster of Minnesota is good. receivers, backs, tight ends, pass rushers, linebackers, one of the best safeties, corners. Oh, Kirk Cousin, wears me out. Where Colin was right? I said all off-season. I think this is going to be Belichick's best defense since Teddy Bruske. Folks, they have not surrendered a touchdown since the AFC championship game. Rams, Dolphin Steelers, no touchdowns.

It's the best secondary in the league, no doubt. They got Jamie Collins back. It's an intimidating, fast linebacking court. They get pressure on the quarterback. They get the ball, take it away, pick sixes. Never forget this, that Belichick is a defensive coach. Sean Payton and Andy Reid are offensive guys. Pete Carroll and Belichick are defensive coaches.

So Bill's always taken his players and made them better than they are. This is the best secondary in the league. It's one of the most active linebacking cores. And I got to tell you, this is what Belichick was telling people close to me in the off season. Like, we could be special. And right now, they are breaking records through two weeks in New England. Where Colin was wrong.

Remember when five quarterbacks a couple years ago got drafted in the first round? I said Josh Allen at Buffalo and Lamar Jackson at Baltimore. I said, these are not prospects. These are projects. Just let them sit. Well, they're the only two young quarterbacks winning. They're combined four and O. I think Buffalo has done a great job with Josh Allen.

A great job coaching him. And I think Baltimore has done a really good job with Lamar Jackson. They both look to me confident. They're both playmakers. Now, again, I think you have to give Buffalo's coaching staff a ton of credit. They're aggressive. I mean, yesterday they had him. He's a really good runner, Josh Allen.

They had running backs blocking for him. Like, they've figured out, here's what the kid does well. We're going to put him in positions to succeed. Buffalo's coaches are not putting Josh Allen in positions where he's not going to succeed. And, I mean, they're really good game plan if you watch this game. And similarly with Lamar Jackson, they got him two tight ends. They got him two receivers.

They got a running back Mark Ingram. They drafted a running back. They went and got him Greg Roman, who's worked with mobile quarterbacks. I thought these guys were projects. They're better than prospects. They are starters in the NFL and capable of, I think, winning eight, nine, ten games. Where Colin was right? Y'all ready to come to my side on Cam Newton?

I think he's been distracted day one. in this league. I think he has, I call him roller coaster cam. Not just because of his game, because of his personality. I never get the mood. I never get if he's in. Now, I will say Cam plays hurt. He and Big Ben have excellent reputations, guys that play hurt. So Cam is courageous in that aspect. But folks, this league, it's like Westbrook. It's become a shooter's league. He can't shoot. It's become a precision league. You've got to be able to complete throws. And Cam's wildly wildly inaccurate. A lot of Joe Flacco. I get the size. I have a history. I've seen him in a Super Bowl. But yesterday, Thursday, 25 of 51 against the Tampa defense that didn't have a pro bowl

last year. Like that is not at home. With Norv Turner, like that is not good enough. Where Colin was right? Rookie head coaches are 08 and 1 other than Matt LaFleure. You know who's looked really good? all the veteran coaches Belichick, John Harbaugh, Pete Carroll, Jason Garrett and Andy Reid are 10 and 0. All the young coaches, 08 and 1. Old guys have been head coaches.

They know the dilemmas and the crises that happen throughout the course of the week with players and families and wives and situations and the owner and coordinating is about being smart. A lot of these young guys are so. smart. Coaching's about babysitting in psychology and mentoring and being a dad and being, I mean, there's a lot of things these coaches are doing.

And the old guys right now, the five experience guys are 10 and O, and the young guys outside of Matt LaFleure are struggling. Not everything new. Some stuff that's new is better. Uber's awesome. I like my iPhone, but not everything new is always better. There you go. Colin Wright.

Colin wrong. There was, Trent Dilfer is around the corner. Plus there was a play yesterday in the NFL that we're not going to talk a lot about. Nobody's talking about it. It could be a defining play in the season for a team in a division that is really tight.

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Check local listings for the game in your area. Uh-huh. Is it time for Daniel Jones? Yes. In New York? Yes. We're going to go Eli down in Tampa. Are we going to go Daniel Jones here?

Well, I think we know what they're going to do, but it doesn't seem that cop. We're seeing all these young quarterbacks flourish. I don't know. Well, he played in the Super Bowl and won it. He's a pro bowler. He is now the head football coach of Lipscomb Academy. The Mustangs won again Friday.

They are now three and one. He is already up for coach of the year in his division. I don't know that for sure, but it sounds accurate. He's my buddy. He's joining me via the Coward Global Satellite Network, Trent Dilfer. All right, so let's start with this. Big Ben's out for the season. That feels like a blow to the Steelers.

But Drew Breeze out for the Saints. I've been saying this over the last few weeks. I think there's a little bit of, we're talking too much about the Saints and the bad call against the Rams. I think this offense is limited. They do not throw the ball down the field, and I think they should have lost to Houston.

I thought they were going to lose to the Rams. I thought the Rams beat them fair and square in New Orleans. is Drew Breeze, does it end the season for New Orleans, or is Teddy Bridgewater do mostly what Drew Breeze does? I hear what you're saying, and I agree with you. I don't think Teddy Bridgewater is a plug and play for Drew Breeze. I think Drew Breeze is a special player, but they are limited. You've seen Sean Payton kind of remake this team as Drew's gotten older, and they're much more of a running attack, intermediate passing game, March the ball,

winning the time of possession battle. They've remade their defense and it's a pretty good defense. Not great, but pretty good. You know, Taysam Hill, kind of the Swiss Army knife type player they create big plays with.

So I guess long-wined answer is saying I think they can definitely survive the six weeks without Drew Breits. They won't be as productive, especially in critical moments. But I think they can function as is offensive.

I am shocked and completely wrong on the Steelers. Their defense doesn't look right. They're running games pedestrian. Big Ben in that cold northern weather, I think,'s going to be harder a place. It feels like season over for me, Trent, there. Totally agree with you.

This injury makes them 5 and 11, 6 and 10, something like that. It's going to be tough sledding this year. I agree with you with Mason Rudolph, even if he's a good player, even if he takes over the reins, you're playing in those harsh conditions, those ugly kind of late fall winter football games that Ben thrives in.

Tough divisional opponents. Look how good Baltimore is this year. I think it's good night to the Steelers. You said last week, you said, Dax's going to be in the MVP conversation. You are right. We were joking earlier. If you watch a car commercial,

they're always selling a defining trait, luxury, torque, power, speed. Dack doesn't have a defining trait outside of, leadership and that's kind of fuzzy and nebula what is leadership i got to tell you something trent i'm watching him he's getting better i mean it feels i mean what are you seeing it's interesting you always go back to the draft process and he probably got drafted right about where he deserved to be drafted i don't think many people argue at that but the people that spent a lot of time with him through the draft process then obviously you talk to people at mississippi state he is a unique leader, not just a good leader, a unique leader.

He's a unique tough guy. He's a guy that brings everybody together, and he was a guy that was just learning how to really play quarterback. So you mix all that together, and the ceiling was pretty high if he was given time to develop, and that was the big if. Would he get a long enough leash to develop? And he played well enough early on that he got that leash. And now you're seeing a guy with, you know, 100, thousands and thousands of reps and practice and a lot of game experience and really good players around them.

So you're seeing that the physical stuff blossom, but you already have the soulful stuff that really allows you to last long enough to develop. And I think it's a really neat story. One, if you give a great kid with those soulful traits long enough, the athletic development really can happen even at the professional space. We both think Aaron Rogers is amazing. No reasonable person would argue with that. My knock on him has been, I wish he was a little more Kobe Bryant.

I wish he was a little more Troy Aikman. I wish he would get in guys' face and not go on Milwaukee Radio and, you know, passively aggressively whack his staff. Yesterday he and Matt LaFleur got after it. I kind of liked it. I was like, I'd like more of that from Aaron. Did you get in a lot of arguments on the sidelines? Well, I was the worst.

But yeah, I love it. I hate, without good conflict, there's no growth as a football team. And yeah, your head coach and your quarterback, your offensive, call your quarterback, your quarterback, your receivers. It's heated. It matters. It is passionate out there. You have a lot invested, and it's okay to get after each other every once in a while.

And I think it needs to be done in a healthy way, or at least if it's done unhealthy on the field, it needs to then be taking care of behind the scenes. But I think that's a good sign for the Green Bay Packers, that both these passionate guys, the leaders of their franchise, are getting after it. It matters, and they're not afraid to show their emotion and their passion. face to face. And like you said, I agree with it. I think Aaron at times has done the passive-aggressive thing. I'd much rather have him do what he did yesterday. You know, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen, they're way better than I thought. And I want to say this.

I think Buffalo's staff is really good. And I think John Harbaugh is really good. But I can't take away from the players. I watched Josh Allen. I watched Lamar. And there's things they just do really well. Josh can really move. Lamar can really move. You watched Lamar yesterday and Kyler what did you make of that matchup and what do you make of this ascending growth very quickly for Lamar? I love it and it's a real issue for the NFL

when you commit to this style of offense. I mean, what you saw yesterday was a little bit different than what you saw. We went from Baltimore. Yesterday was a lot more quarterback-driven runs, run action. If you notice, these guys are high school open. You know, there's high school open,

there's college open, there's pro open. And I'm watching high school. high school open receivers by the Baltimore Ravens. Well, that's because they're so concerned with what's going on in the backfield. All the misdirection. They got to defend their gaps in the regular run game. The guy to defend Lamar Jackson, who's got beat beat, beat, twitch and speed. I mean, it's a real issue for the NFL trying to stop this.

Now, with both of them, I'll put Josh in this too. All this flash and sizzle put Kyle in this, too. All this flash and sizzle doesn't win you Super Bowls. eventually you have to be the surgeon on third and seven and pick up a blitz and change of protection and get to your third guy in the progression and make full field reads. I think they'll be able to do that one day. But again, this is week two. This is a little bit of a surprise. The teams are playing.

The NFL will adjust and it will melt out a little bit. But with Lamar especially, I mean, you're talking again, an MVP type candidate if he can. can progress and grow as that pocket third down surgeon type passer. He's got the skill set to do it. We just need to see him do it consistently. I still, you know, before Big Ben got hurt, I wasn't going to blast the Steelers today because I think they lost to Belichick and Brady and Russell Wilson and Pete Carroll. And there's no crime in that.

They led when Big Ben got hurt. But I want to talk about Russell Wilson because now he feels like an old guy now with Kyler and Lamar and Josh Al and Baker. Russell feels like, you know, yeah, he's over the hill. every single receiver they give him, undrafted Doug Baldwin, the guy who from the kid they just brought in from Ole Miss who had gone down in the draft. Medcast. Yeah. Everything works.

Everything works. We're getting to a point now with Russell Wilson is, just explain it to me, because I'm from Seattle. And my sister didn't watch sports until Russell Wilson. So there's part of me that's rooting for Russell, right? But man, I'm telling you, he is, there's just, he's, to me, Steve Young. That's the only player I can compare him to. What do you see? I think that's a good analogy.

I think Steve would even tell you that Russell's probably a little bit better passer at this stage of his career. Now, Steve was so precise with the intermediate stuff. But Russell Wilson is one of the greatest deep ball throwers I've ever seen. And like you said, whether it's Doug Baldwin or DJ Medcaf or Tyler Lockett or whoever it is, I mean, he is just dropping dimes down the football field on a regular basis. and that's really hard to do when there's a revolving door at receiver. It's not like these guys are running past people all the time. I mean, go back, I've done a deep ball reel on Russell Wilson.

I mean, these guys are covered a lot of the time. And he's still completing them. But I think the biggest thing about Russell Wilson outside the skill stuff, which my jaw drops too watch. I mean, he's probably my favorite player. Him and my homes are my two favorite players to watch on a regular basis. But it's Russell's always done this. And again, go back to his history in high school and the two colleges he went to.

He's always made everybody else around him better. And at the end of the day, that's kind of the job of the quarterback. Your job is to make everybody around you better. Get the most from the least and the best from the best. It's a lot like coaching. And Russell has that unique ability, whether you love him or hate him, you're going to play hard for him. And he's going to get the most out of you.

It's kind of a magical trait that he has. and I think that's why they're always, they always win the close game. They're never out of a game. You always think the Seahawks have a chance because of Russell Wilson. I don't know if there's a better thing you can say about a quarterback. Finally, would you start Daniel Jones, all these young quarterbacks working, Pat Schumer? What do you do with Eli? I'm afraid because the Giants just aren't very good, especially on defense.

If you play Daniel Jones, then he's playing from behind a lot. He's playing from behind a lot. There's a lot of known pass downs with deficit. defense can just get after you. Well, if there's no one passed downs and a defense to get out to your quarterback and hitting them over and over and over and playing loaded coverages and zone dog, you know, all these different things, he's not going to have a ton of success. If he doesn't have a ton of success, does that, you know, threaten maybe his confidence?

That's the conversation that I'd be having internally. I would, if they continue to stink it up, which it looks like they're going to, I would probably wait for more of a mid-season transition. I also think you've got to be a little sensitive to a two-time Super Bowl winner. You've got to show some classes and some grace. He is a legend in New York. You've got to be careful how you transition away from Eli as a franchise. So again, another discussion point for the bigwigs up in the high offices as they start contemplating this move.

All right, Lipscomb Academy, head football coach in Nashville, three and one. I've already sent my vote in for conference coach of the year. By the way, he's in that new facility, which the first thing Dillford did is, hey, let's spruce these facilities up for the kids and the coaches. Looks like a million bucks. I could not be happier. I will be, I swear, I'll be in Nashville in the next six months to a year. I've got kids there now. One of them's a chef.

I'll be there. I'll drop by, I promise. Let's go. You'll love it. I'll let you go to the barbershop. We have our own barbershop, too. Let's you have a Thursday night cut like we have let the kids. All right.

Good stuff, Trent. Thanks. See you, buddy. Yeah, I do think, Joy and I, you and I have talked about this with Eli. It's tough. The Mara family, Eli, Payton. I mean, Peyton, Eli, the Mara family, they have dinners together. This is American football royalty. It's hard. I mean, we do get on organizations when they cut guys and don't treat them the right way on the way out, especially the legends. So I guess you have to give them credit for that.

But I just think, you know, maybe at the end of the year you have one of those nice sit-down dinners. Get one of the bottles of wine with extra dust on it. Yeah. And just have an open, transparent conversation about how you would like to very elegantly transition out of the current working situation. Yeah, you have an old bottle of wine with dust. And then the second thing you bring out is Daniel Jones. And you ask Eli to leave and you put him down because it's not working. Joy with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Well, the Steelers lost the Seahawks 2826 on Sunday, and they've lost their franchise quarterback, too. This is the big news of the day, other than Drew Brees being out for six weeks. It was six weeks. Ben Rothesberger is out for the season. He needs surgery on his elbow.

The team announced it this morning. It was a non-contact injury. You're showing the play right now. It just looked like something maybe popped. Mason Rudolph will be the starter going forward. He was 1219 for 112 yards, two touchdowns, and one interception. Here's the thing. You remember a little while back, Ben Rathesberger wasn't really that high on the Mason Rudolph.

draft choice. He was taking in the third round. He said he was surprised they took a quarterback because he thought third round there were some really good players that can help the team now. Well, this is why you should always have a quarterback waiting and ready to go. Obviously, he's been sitting behind Ben Rathesberger.

Look how many are hurt. Luck just retired. Donald's got mono. Foles is out. Ben's out. Breeze is hurt. Like you have to, this is one of these things you and I have talked about. I don't understand why every team in this league,

even if you have Patrick Mahomes, you draft a quarterback every year, every other year. You develop them. A, if your guy gets hurt, it's not man overboard. And B, if you have a great quarterback, you can use that pick and use it later and trade it and it will not lose value.

Jimmy Garoppolo was worth more having not played. Right. Because everybody understood, he's not going to beat out Brady. Like this, Pittsburgh, they're, you know, this is why you draft quarterbacks. And if you look at how many busts you have in the draft anyway, what difference does it make it? It's a win-win situation for you. You always have someone waiting. I don't think that Pittsburgh, I mean, obviously Pittsburgh is very discouraged right now.

You lost Ben-Roth's record for the year. There's no replacing Ben-Rawkes. But I do think that Steelers fans have a little hope in what they saw from Mason Rudolph, and he has been there in the organization, and he says he feels confident he can run the offense. But I think that the bigger picture for the Steelers is they did not, they weren't trending in a good direction. Anyway, like you can say they were winning at that point in the game. I didn't like what I've seen from the Steelers up until that point. The running game is flat. The running game is not what it needs to be.

They have no deep threat. I don't know what I expected of the Steelers this year anyway. I mean, I thought they would win the AFC North. Okay. What are you going to do in the playoffs? You need to have those playmakers. And I just, I think that they lost a lot of talent that they couldn't replace and now Ben Roth's workers out for the year.

So the Saints suffered another blown call and their loss to the Rams Sunday, A fumble by Jared Gough that Cam Jordan recovered and returned for a touchdown was an incomplete pass on the field. The play was reviewed and the Saints got the ball, but the touchdown did not count because the refs blew the play dead, which I will never understand. After the game, Jordan was clearly frustrated with the reps. I didn't even hear the whistle. I grabbed the ball 15, 20 yards down and allegedly a whistle was blown. Clearly, I mean, the whistle was blown, where normally you let the play happen. any foot locker, I mean, referee usually tells you you let the play happen and then you go back and review the play.

A little jab at the refs there. By the way, I'm going to make a statement here. If I said the best two defensive linemen in the NFL played yesterday in the same game, Cameron Jordan and Aaron Donald, Fletcher Cox is really good. You were looking at two of the great defensive linemen in the league yesterday. Those guys one-on-one are unblockable. Yeah. And having this play not finish the way that it should have is really disappointing.

These are big career-defining plays. Even if it's just a week two regular season, those go on your highlight reel forever. And if you're a defensive player. And like just why are you, what are you doing? What are you doing if you're the referee in that spot? Like I understand we don't want to make the whole narrative around the saints that the referees are against them because I don't think that's what it is.

Like there was plenty of bad calls yesterday to go around. But it's kind of hard to defend them in this spot. Like, let the play, you have replayed. Just let it play out and then look at it. What's the hurt? Dean Blandino agreed, by the way, said the rest should always let it play out before making a call on close plays.

It's just not smart. Finally, whoo, that Dolphins game was something. They lost big at home and reportedly thinking about making a change at quarterback. 43-0, lost to the Patriots. Ryan Fitzpatrick was 11 to 21 for 89 yards, no touchdowns, and three interceptions, including a pair of pick sixes, and head coach,

Flyam Flores, was asked if Fitzpatrick will be the starter going forward. You know, Ryan's still the starter. You know, we'll evaluate things over the course of the week, and as of right now, Ryan still starting. Now, we thought that he would be the starter, at least through the bye week, before we saw Josh Rosen full-time, but I don't think anyone expected to beat the dolphins to be as bad as they are. They tied the 1973 Saints for the second most points,

allowed through two games in the Super Bowl era. It's the worst. It's the most feeble NFL offense I've seen, and I'm not joking here, since the mid-late 70 Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Like, they're not a threat. They have one nice receiver. They're just not, you can just crowd the box. They throw it over ahead their own line. They give up their best offensive linemen. I mean, it's just gone to the point where it's just like a blooper reel.

And that's not saying that the players aren't out there trying and their blind floors isn't out there trying. But again, this is why I don't like the idea of tanking because it's just spreads. It's a contagious thought that just permeates through the entire situation. And it's not attractive to free agents. I mean, even if you got all those draft picks, you're not going to get top veteran players want to be part of that mess. No, thank you. And how do you switch that culture around? It's too much.

It was like Brady was experimenting yesterday. Seriously, during the game was just experimenting with AB. Let's see if this one works. Go over there. I mean, why not? Exactly. Why not? Free game.

Joy with the news. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Herd Lye News. Fox Sports analyst Darrell Moose Johnson, he'll join us. His thoughts on what he saw with the Dallas Cowboys and other things yesterday. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. He played for over a decade, three Super Bowls, a Fox analyst, multiple pro bowls.

A good dude, Darrell Moose, Johnston, Fox Sports NFL analyst, did the Packers and the Vikings yesterday. It was the early window, so many of you did not see it. let's start with this. I think Minnesota's roster is fantastic. I think Mike Zimmer's an excellent coach, and Moose is joining us. But I think that coaching staff at some point, Moose, has to be frustrated with Kirk Cousins. Do you sense that? Well, it was one of the things that we talked about with Kirk in our production meeting on Saturday.

And just the way the game unfolded in week one, when they beat the Atlanta Falcons, having the block punt, interception. It's 14-0. the end of the first quarter. It's 28 to nothing the end of the third quarter. So you're able to slip into that Mike Zimmer style that he likes so much. Just play good defense, run the football, let the clock be your friend. At some point this season,

you know, Kirk Cousins told us, you know, the game's going to fall on my shoulders. I'm going to have to prove to people that I can win a game. And he had an opportunity on Sunday, and the play you're seeing right now is really the critical play in that game. No reason for Kirk to throw that ball. He didn't have Thielen open early.

He had Stefan Diggs open, but with the pressuring in his face, he was unable to get the throw off at that point. And to float that ball up, it was the same thing that Mitchell Tribeschi did in week one when the Packers beat the Bears and Adrian Amos made the interception. So I don't know what the thought process right there was, but you would like to see him throw that football away. They had run the ball very effectively on that drive. I like the play call, but it's just not there. Yeah. You know, it's funny. Green Bay was very effective early in that game. And then, and I think when you play a team as good as Chicago or Minnesota, and Aaron Rogers can score early, that may be all you get.

Is there any explanation for Green Bay struggling later offensively, or is it just simple, Moose? Sometimes it gets great defenses. You're going to do stuff scripted you can't do later in the game, and there's nobody to blame. Exactly, exactly. Laura Ogman had a great interview with Aaron after the game and asked us, in that question, and his response was Mike Zimmer. You know, Mike had made some changes, you know, in the

second half of that game, you know, when they fell behind 21 to nothing, they kind of tweaked it a little bit. And to your point, when you've got the talent that they have, you know, Mike is going to be able to find out, you know, why Aaron's having success, what he has to do to kind of tweak that just a little bit. I didn't see anything in the front play, so it must have been on the back end with the coverage, but there was definitely

something different after they got out to the 21-0-0 lead. I think the big thing that Minnesota, they did a great job on the third and short situations. There was a fourth down. And that, again, was their front. So their front just started playing really well. The surprising thing to me in that game was how effective Green Bay was running the football. And I think that that was a big component early in the game. And it seems like they kind of got that short up a little bit there in the second half.

By the way, go back to your Troy Aikman days on the sideline. I've seen some NFL films. Troy was not reluctant to bark at somebody. sports is about time and downs, and you've got to sometimes confront issues in the middle of a game. Aaron and Matt LaFleur had a little barking. What did you make of that?

Oh, it's just competition. Rule number one in football, what's said between the white lines stays between the white lines. You've got fiery competitors. There was frustration on multiple occasions from Aaron. And a lot of people make a lot to do about body language and things like that. And I don't think that when he does it,

I think it's more of a sense of frustration. There was a series where they lined up incorrectly, had to call a timeout. The mechanics in and out of the huddle for three or four consecutive plays was just not up to a standard that Aaron Rogers is going to want to have to accept or play with. So he's just holding his guys accountable. And Troy held us accountable. You know, there's nothing wrong with this. And I think it's funny that some people think that it sets a bad, you know, sets a bad tone. he's not he's not going to ingratiate himself to his teammates there's going to be some kind of fallout

it's just the competitive spirit out there on the football field and you challenge people all the time if you're not doing your job and we hear that so much in the NFL just do your job if you're not doing your job you should be called out by one of the leaders on your team whether it's quarterback or it's one of your offensive linemen you know michael irvin was was another one who was really good at holding us accountable during the course of a game you know i i know you were doing your game same time Washington, Dallas was on, but you're in the Dallas area a lot. You probably, you know, talk to Dak Prescott on multiple moments. And I was saying he doesn't have what we tend to like in our car commercials, a defining trait, luxury, power, torque, speed. He's just a great leader

and he's good at everything. And when you meet him, you know, people talk about his leadership and his persona. I mean, clearly the team, Jerry, Stephen, they buy into him. Tell me a little about DAC that I don't see on television. What makes him unique? I'll go beyond that. More charisma. You know, when he got the opportunity to play when Tony got hurt, I think that that was the big thing. There were things that he had to work on and on his game, you know, as a fourth round pick, the quarterback position, but but the innate abilities, the charisma. And yeah, I think you make a great point. You know, not everybody is going to see that.

But that is a huge component to the quarterback position. And he has, He has a ton of it. You know, you hear Jason Witten talk about it all the time. And Jason was very complimentary, you know, having spent a season away from him as he did the announcing on Money Day football and coming back this season to see the growth. You know, not only in the leadership and that charismatic persona around the locker room, but he did see a marked improvement in a lot of the fundamental and technical parts of playing the quarterback position. So here's somebody who has a relentless work ethic to be as good as he. possibly can be. He's driven because he's not mentioned in the same name as some of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. Now, you're not going to be mentioned with the Brady's and the breezes

and the Rogers right now, but he wants to get to that next tier. And a lot of times he's not mentioned in that tier. And that's something that drives him to be better every single day. And you hear it from the coaches. So a lot of the things that he does are going to be, you know, things that fans aren't going to be able to recognize. And I think you make a really good point. He just does everything really well. You're not great at any particular thing right now, but I think he's trending that way. His first two weeks of the season have been outstanding. And the one thing that everybody always says about Dak Prescott is he has to have Ezekiel Elliott. Well, he really hasn't had Ezekiel Elliott the first two weeks. You know, he's been the guy for the Dallas Cowboys. You know, he's led him

on five consecutive touchdown drives against the Giants, five consecutive scoring drives. against the Redskins. It's been his play that's been the determining factor in the 2-0 start. So I think that shows you the growth that he's had in the off-season this year. Good stuff. Moose Johnson, three rings, multiple Pro Bowls, Fox NFL analyst. Moose, I appreciate you stopping by for us on a Monday. Absolutely. Always good catching up with you, Colin.

You bet. Packers Vikings was early window, but it was a fascinating game. Aaron Rogers came flying out of the gate. And frankly, Minnesota. You know, we won our quarterbacks yesterday. Some of these games take a while to develop. Aaron Rogers and his first two games come out of the gate great, and then they've made adjustments. You're not going to play four great quarters of defense,

offense against the great defense. It's just not going to happen. I mean, New Orleans has a good defense. Jared Goff first half struggled. Then the Saints defense gets a little worn out. Then Jared Goff finds holes. By the way, there was a great moment last night, a defining play in the NFL season.

Mitch Trubisky had a great throw in Denver. But the Matt Ryan moment last. night was a good decide the division this is called professional quarterbacking so Philadelphia has had Atlanta's number fourth down fourth quarter Atlanta trailing Matt Ryan goes to the line and sees the defense that it's super aggressive and Matt Ryan's eyes bug out he's like he starts clapping he starts going give me the ball give me the ball give me the ball heighten the ball watch this playing Atlanta last night this is Matt Ryan fourth and three

Meanwhile, they better get the snap here because the play clock is in one. They do. Off they go. Catchers may get the first and a lot more. Julio Jones out in front. He's going to go all the way. Touchdown. Take a look at Ryan.

Yeah, he sees it. He sees the pressure. He sees that they're coming up. And if they're going to bring pressure, then we want to get rid of that football and get it outside somewhere. That's why they call it professional football. That play could define the season. That's the difference between 0 and 2 and 1.

Tribisky had a great play yesterday. Matt Ryan, get me the ball. I see the coverage. Audubilling. That's how you play quarterback in the NFL. Hour 3 next. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed the game.

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So it was a rough night for Philadelphia. Early on, you know, the receivers get hurt. You're on the road. Carson Wentz is a young quarterback. General of young quarterback's a little better at home than on the road. Atlanta home opener, urgent. They lost in Minnesota. So that's not a great spot.

But Matt Ryan, Audubold, and really here's the play of the season. O and two to one and one. Show the play, Matt Ryan. This is professional quarterbacking, and you played with him. Let's show the play. Fourth and three. Meanwhile, they better get the snap here because the play clock is in one.

They do. Off they go. Catches may get the first and a lot more. Julio Jones out in front. He's going to go all the way. Touchdown. Just take a look at Ryan. Yeah, he sees it.

He sees the pressure. He sees that they're coming up. And if they're going to bring pressure, then we want to get rid of that football and get it outside somewhere. That's why they call it professional football. By the way, you played with Maddie, does he audible a lot? Yeah, we'll have the checks in there. It's usually never something where it comes off the spot.

Like that was a zero coverage, meaning that there's nobody back there. It's all out blitz. Okay, if we see that look, and it's probably every week. I'm sure it's against any team out there. And Philadelphia was aggressive as hell last night. Yeah, and they needed to be, I guess. Yes, in that situation, fourth and three, let's bring the house and put a little pressure on him. But Matt sees that where everybody was ready for it.

And I loved how Julio there was so calm. He was almost not even set. And I think he was doing that on purpose trying to low him to sleep like, oh, this is not a check for me. Boom, boom, boom. And then, you know, off to the races. That's what, and Chris Collinsworth, that's professional quarterbacking. A lot of young quarterbacks, you know, it's reading coverages and two deep and one high and zero coverage. and there's two different ways to play quarterback,

just on talent, and then as you develop, they call it the light coming on, you spot stuff. And that's the difference, by the way, in winning or finishing second-knit division, because now Cam's reeling, breezes out for six weeks. That could be the play of the season for Atlanta

that gets the ball rolling. That was huge for them. Huge for them. Now, here's something else, is when you were in the NFL, pre-season, you played two or three games to get ready. The current trend, and football, we're trying to make football safer,

I think it's backfiring. So nobody wants to play in the preseason, right? That'll be safer. But the problem is, if you're not banging around in preseason, the first two weeks of the regular season, you're asking professional athletes to go from zero to 60. And I think you need preseason to some degree. All these injuries, do you think some of it is the trend

to just not play preseason? Yeah, yeah. Well, there's two sides to that, though, I would say. I'd say, yes, guys who don't take the time or during practice. Now, you know, if you're not going to play in the preseason, which I ain't going to lie. I didn't play that much during the preseason.

But it was different. We did play more than they're playing right now. Now, guys aren't even taking a snap. Right. But that's up to the player now. And most players are lazy. And we talked about this before. Most players, they probably don't even know that you're hurting yourself.

But when you practice, you better put that chin strap on, put your mouthpiece in, and you better be going all out like game-type speed. And that's the way I practice all the time. So that's the way, that's the Kobe Bryant method. Like practice was a game. game, it just didn't count. It just didn't count.

And the reason you do that is because you're getting your muscles flexing. You know, because you can't go 80%, 90% in practice. Most guys are not going 80%. They're going about 70, 75% max. And when you do that and then all of a sudden you go 100% in the game, your muscles aren't ready for that. They're not used to it. Your ligaments aren't used to it.

And then you can't get out of the way as quick. Your reaction is not as good. So I want guys, when I was at practice, I wanted you to go full speed, especially in the passing game because I'm going full speed. I need that look. I need to get my body ready. so when I get to the game, it's nothing new. Muscles are like where we're used to this.

You know, now because of social media, if a player yells at a coach, everybody in the world sees it. It wasn't that way in your day. I am a big believer that in life, you know, if my wife and I get in an argument, I can always say, let's just sleep on it, let's just think about it, let's,

but sports has a clock and downs. So if there's a problem, you have to figure it out quickly. And quickly sometimes is confrontational. And I saw a question. quote yesterday on the internet, which said great democracies have to deal with uncomfortable discussions. Great quarterbacks and great relationships in the NFL have to deal with confrontation.

There's a clock. It's fourth down. We've got to get this crap figured out. So yesterday, Aaron Rogers, Matt LaFleur bark at each other. And I think a guy's like you, I don't mind that at all. Like, that's the NFL. Did you get in shouting matches? Did you?

Kid me? Do you did a lot? A lot of times. I'm talking coaches that I still talk. to this day that I love. We've been yelling at each other on the sideline because it's an emotional game. Like you said, the crunch time's there

with, you know, lots at stake. I remember I'm sitting on the sideline and one of my coach Selefo, Chris Selfo, a great tight-in coach. We're sitting there and he comes up and sometimes and I screwed up during the game and I know I did and he comes up and he gets on a knee in front of me and he didn't even say anything to me. He just looks up at me

and I'm like, what the F are you looking at? Like, you get the click out of my face because he didn't even say it's like, And then he starts barking at me. We start yelling at each other. But then after the game, it's, hey, give me a big hug. And we start laughing about it. Because it's funny.

We're acting like two little kids out there. But we're emotional. That's what we are. We're like little kids. We're playing a game. It's a football game. And these games, you get, yesterday Mitch Trubisky made a throw that could have saved the season. Matt Ryan made a throw that could have saved the season.

Like this is, I never have a problem with Peyton Manning was a barker. Brady can be a barker. Troy Aikman was a barker. It just doesn't bother me. But I think a lot of. If you're not, like, if you've never been in sports and you started dating somebody that was in sports, like Joy has been in sports. And she could date somebody who's in sports.

You're both comfortable with the argument. But like sports is arguing all the time, right? Like it's constant. It's a fight. And that's, well, I guess that's the other side. I don't know if you're saying that, but there are certain people, I guess, the business world, you can't do that in an office. you will get reported and fired quickly. But on the sports field, that is why I love sports.

First of all, first of all, let's yell at each other. Let's not take it too far. Let's not get personal. I don't want you to hurt my feelings and say something you'll regret. But let's get it out there. I mean, it's like a marriage. Don't tell me. You know, every married person out there knows what I'm talking about.

It's the same thing on the sports field. Okay, so, Dag Prescott, we can doubt stuff. but man, do you know he's not only won nine of his last 10 he's got the highest completion percentage in the league in those games and he's passed for the second most yards.

Can we just acknowledge now? It ain't always pretty, but he's good. Is that fair? My eyes are telling me it's not pretty. He doesn't have a defining trait but I watch him and I say to myself I'm looking around the league right now. You got old guys, you got mono, you got Andrew Luck

retired. You got guys that are falling apart physically. You got young guys who can't audible. I look at Dak and I'm like, this morning, maybe he's moved into the top 10 based on all the retirements and injuries. Absolutely. I think that's fair. And you know what he is? The guy's a winner. Okay. The guy's a leader. The guy who knows how to keep his calm. The guy doesn't turn the ball over. He's got all the attributes that you want. And you're right. I've looked at it and I've, I've been up and down on Dak. But one thing that you and I have always agreed about him is he's a good guy. He's a guy you want at the podium.

He's an alpha. He's an alpha male. And now you've surrounded him with the supporting cast. I mean, Jerry Jones and the rest of them have done really well to surround him with people. And then you give him confidence. I remember Tom Brady when he was younger. He wouldn't light him to league. He was winning Super Bowl's first five, six years.

It wasn't look at the stats. I don't even think he was going to the Pro Bowl. That means he wasn't in the top three guy in the AFC quarterback-wise. But he kept getting better and kept getting better, kept maturing. And then they started. Then Randy Moss comes. the town. He starts putting up these monstrosity numbers. Confidence is there and it's

off to the races. Now he's one of the best of all time, arguably the best. This could be the same trend here. I think he's great. We forget this. Tony, you played college basketball and football. You are 5% of the league that you were kind of a can't miss guy. And even you had a bad

first year. Second year. Yeah. Second year. So like there are those guys like Jonathan Ogden came into the league, left tackle. You're like okay, that's great. Like there are a handful of guys Cortez Kennedy, Warren Sapp, you know, Randy Moss, oh, that's going to work, Michael Irvin.

You're one of those eight percenters. I've argued this forever. Half this league is undrafted. Is that most of the guys in this league need support. Like Lamar Jack, Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills, played at Wyoming. The leap from Wyoming to the NFL, it's the Grand Canyon.

And I'm watching Josh Allen with Buffalo, and I'm like, those coaches have figured it out. They never put him in a spot to fail. Lamar Jackson. I'm not saying Lamar and Josh can't play. But I always feel like, go back to your NFL career. Like, DAC works because he's talented, but they've given him a ton of support. Go back to the Kansas City Chiefs.

How many guys, Derek Brooks may be one. How many guys did you look at and think they're my physical equal? They're my talent equal. How many did you play within Atlanta that are talented? Talent equal? Your talent equal. I would say a lot of them, honestly. Really?

Talent equal? Yeah, when I, okay, I'd say on the team, there are guys that you will come across a lot that you say, wow, that guy runs a 4-4, he's strong as an ox, he's athletic as hell, and he doesn't make it. I'm a big believer, and maybe I'm disagreeing with you here, that a lot of these guys don't have it in here, in that heart, the heart and the mind. They can't connect those two. Is that a DAC thing?

The soul, the heart, the want. Yes. And I think that's what's going to make this kid great for a long time. And you can see that when he speaks. You can tell when somebody's talking the way they talk and the way they express themselves after a loss and after a win, whether or not, you know, this guy's going to reach his maximum. His potential will come. As long he doesn't get hurt.

It's not a matter of if. It's just a matter of win with a guy like that. And that's what I said about Matt Ryan. When I got there in his second year, He had all this potential. He's rookie the year. He was doing really well. But he wasn't that upper echelon guy.

And I said, well, it's just a matter of if. Because I've seen him. I've had a chance to be around him, watch him prepare. I got to see his heart. I got to see how he operates. And that's hard to measure. You can't go to a combine and figure that out right away. No, I mean, you start looking at the quarterbacks in this league that have succeeded.

A lot of them, we didn't watch in college. I didn't watch Big Ben in college. Mahomes. Tom Brady struggled. Drew Brees went to Purdue. If you look at the history of the NFL quarterbacks, Dak, Russell Wilson, third round, Montana third round. Patent Manning is number one high school, number one college, number one pick.

That's actually an outlier. Rare. And you know what it is? I guess it's pretty. It's handsome. Just because they're pretty and they're handsome doesn't mean they're going to work out. It doesn't mean they're going to be good people. In fact, usually the tens, this is my analogy right now.

Usually the tens are usually the ones that are lacking a little bit, you know. I like a guy like this. I like a guy that gets doubted. I like the guy that goes through some stuff. Those are the ones they're going to rise up. Those are the people I like being around because they've been through it. They don't take their looks for granted anymore. What do you make of Lamar Jackson?

He's 2 and O. He played Kyler Marie yesterday. What do you make of it? I tell you what, coming into the season, right, all the questions, he's not accurate. He's a running court. He's one threat. This has been amazing to watch the first two.

I didn't expect him to come out and run the ball 16 times for 120 yards. Credit to his coaching staff, but credit to him, working hard, doing whatever he had to do, and I'm going to show you what I'm made of. I'm going to show you. I'm a Heisman guy, and I deserve to be one of the best quarterbacks in league. Because right now, you can make an argument that he is the MVP of this league. Him and Patrick, Tom, obviously. He's at that top DAC, too.

Those four guys are now after two games. I know it's early, but he's looking like an MVP, Calibate. guy. What do you do to stop this guy? By the way, we doubted Dak, we doubted Lamar. I mean, isn't it funny? I mean, Tom Brady, look at right now the quarterbacks that are on top of the world in this league,

even Deshaun Watson. Tribisky moved up. Deshaun Watson, two national championship games. To your point, if you look at this morning the quarterbacks that we're really now are running around this league, find me the Peyton Manning. Number one in high school, number one in college,

number one pick. They don't exist. Drew Brees wasn't offered a scholarship. High school in Texas, nobody in Texas. Had to go to Purdue. It is remarkable. What you're saying basically is you like the guys that were overlooked. The league now is being run by a bunch of Dax.

Yeah. It is. A bunch of Mahomes. I mean, it really is. And maybe that's part of, you know, like raising kids. Like, you don't want to give them too much. You give them too much early. Those divas come into the league.

Everything's been handed to them. They've dominated because of their talent or whatever. Coachings let them get away with stuff. you're not ready for the league. Lee, Lee, you're going to get stomped on and you're going to get figured out very quickly. By the way, Baker Mayfield, two-time walk-on, favor tonight to beat the Jets.

There you go. Tony Gonzalez, great seeing you, bud. By the way, Saturday, Michigan at Wisconsin, Discovery card key matchup, double your miles first year. Limitations apply. Go to discover.com slash travel. Joy with the news.

No, no, no, no. Turn on the news. This is the herd line news. Patrick Mahomes had another great performance in the Chiefs 2810, against the Raiders yesterday, 30 of 44, 44, 443 yards, four touchdowns and no interceptions, just a regular day for Mahomes. His numbers also made NFL history, is the first quarterback to ever throw for 300 yards,

and four touchdowns six times in the first 40 games of his career. He did that in 19 games. Dan Marino and Kurt Warner are the only other quarterbacks to do it five times, and they did it in their first 40 career games. May, May. May. Farves up there. It's way up there. He's just fascinating to watch play in general. He plays quarterback like he is a point guard. And his throwing motion, it's like he's not even moving his arm.

He's just like, he reminds me of, although he was not actually a good football player, Napoleon Dynamite, Uncle Rico. How he just kind of toss it. Although, obviously, he's much better than Uncle Rico throwing it over those mountains. But next four games for the Chiefs are at home hosting the Ravens, which will be a game. great game, Lamar Jackson and Patrick Mahomes, at the Lions, Colts, and Texans at home. Their next division game is week seven at the Broncos, but the AFC West is looking pretty favorable for the Chiefs at this point. Raiders 1-1, Chargers 1-1, and obviously the Broncos. Broncos are 0-and-2. So the big story today is the Steelers losing to the Seahawks,

28, 26, and losing their franchise quarterback as well. The team announced this morning that Ben Rothensberger needs surgery on his elbow. He will be out. for the season. Mason Rudolph will be the starter going forward. I don't really know what to make of the Steelers this season anyway, even with Ben Rothesberger. I thought they would win the AFC North, but not really make any noise in the playoffs. I don't think they have enough talent on the offensive side. And that's not, Drew Smith-Schuster's a great player. I don't think that their running game is dynamic enough.

I just don't think they have enough. This division has always been decided post- Thanksgiving when it gets really cold and the field's hard and it's snowy. I never really understand the Steelers getting Mason Rudolph because he's not a big strong thrower. And I think this division will overwhelmingly be decided in crappy weather. And Big Ben, he was a good, he was that luxury SUV and crappy weather. He was a big game player and a big deep ball thrower. His ball cut through wind and rain and snow. And I think they're toast.

It's, I mean, it's a devastating loss for the Steelers. I think Mason Rudolph had a nice showing yesterday, 12 of 19. 1112 yards, two touchdowns, one interception. You're not going to expect anything from them this year. But this is also kind of, I think, a bigger picture occurrence because I don't think that the Steelers are going to win another Super Bowl in the Tomlin-Roburger era. And once Levy on Bell and Antonio Brown left, that's how I felt.

And now this is kind of just the final, you know, nail as far as what they can do. Like even if he comes back next year, he's a year older coming off of a major surgery. I don't know what the Steelers have looking forward. Finally, Jalen Hertz is lighting up college football. Oklahoma quarterback led his team to 4814 win over UCLA on Saturday. He threw for 289 yards and three touchdowns and rushed for 120 yards and another touchdown. He's now the first Oklahoma quarterback to pass for 200 yards and rushed for 100 yards in the first half of a game. He has more touchdowns than incompletions this season. You know, it's amazing, too, about Lincoln Riley is they lost a bunch of offensive linemen the last two years to the N.S.

So they're rebuilding their offensive line and they have a new quarterback, not even an issue. I mean, this should have been a step back offensively from Kyler Murray and a bunch of NFL offensive linemen. You talk about, they're just reloading at Oklahoma. That offensive system, you should not be able to lose five NFL players up front or tight – I mean, but they've lost NFL tight ends, left tackles. I mean, Oklahoma's just reload. Doesn't even matter.

And I realize it's UCLA, but. But he's just looked great to me. Fantastic. And I know everyone's taking for Tua, but the quarterback draft is going to be very interesting come to the end of this season, I think. And there's a lot more teams than we originally thought who may be looking to take a quarterback high in the draft.

I mean, obviously the dolphins are one of them. I think the Panthers will be up there. But, I mean, you have Saints, Steelers, Titans, bucks. Oh, the Saints have to draft a quarterback. You have to drive a quarterback. The Steelers have to draft a quarterback. That's not even, you know, I mean, these teams, even like the Chargers with Philip Rivers, you're getting clear.

You've got to at least draft a guy here with the Chargers at least. And see what you can develop. Somewhere by the third round this year, fourth round. Yeah. Joy with the News. Well, that's the news. And thanks for stopping by. The Heard Lye News.

One of my favorite games on Monday. We'll go back and look at every game. Can we describe every NFL game since Thursday in three words? The three-word NFL game to wrap up a very busy Monday, which is included. Tony Gonzalez, Trent Dillford, Greg Jennings, and Moose Johnson. That's coming up. Want more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. On average, a burglary happens every 23 seconds. SimplySafs video verification technology helps police get to your home much faster.

Simplysafecollan.com. Simplysafecollan.com. We do it every Monday to end our show. We go all the way back to Thursday night football. We take every single game. Of course, tonight, the Browns and Baker-Mayfield against the Jets. Sam Darnold's out with Mono. We don't count that game. I think Cleveland's going to win. I think Cleveland's going to win big. I did not put it in my blazing five. We had a winning week, by the way, four out of five. Great winning week, blazing five. I didn't put it in. Many people are saying, why didn't you put it in? Anytime you have multiple injuries, you're losing quarterbacks. Sometimes teams play inspired. I just, I take it off. I suspect Cleveland wins by three touchdowns tonight. I would never bet it. Jets are missing like a quarterback, a defensive

lineman, C.J. Mosley, wide receivers, they're a mess. So we call it the three-word game. Every game can be described in three words. And here we go. Buccaneers, Panthers Thursday, out of fashion. Cam Newton has the highest percentage of what are deemed uncatchable passes through two weeks. That means he's not only inaccurate, but wildly inaccurate. 34% of his throws over a third are deemed uncatchable. It should be noted Mitch Trevisky is second. Then it goes Fitzpatrick and Kirk Cousins. Do we think any of those quarterbacks are great?

Cam's no longer great. Now, out of fashion, I will say post-game, he looks fantastic. I mean, there's nobody taking it to the next level like Cam. I don't, I mean, you talk about something I would not work in. That right there, that is the outfit. I would not work in. Cowboys Redskins, don't doubt, DAC. Folks, two weeks, seven touchdowns.

That is the most for any cowboy quarterback since Don Meredith in the 60s. that's more than Roger Stovac, Troy Aitman, Danny White, Drew Bledsoe, Tony Romo. And now the Cowboys deserve some credit. Randall Cobb was a nice pickup. Michael Gallup is becoming a really nice player, brought Jason Witten back. Boy, Jason Witten's been nice for them, right? How valuable has he been in the Red Zone? You know, we know Amari Cooper can play, Zecchio Elliott, so they've given him weapons.

But I think a lot of this is just Dak. I think you're watching a young man just get better. It's amazing. You know, I can watch Mitch Trubisky and say limited. I don't see the limitations everybody else sees with Dak. I don't think he's a great armed talent. I only think he's Went or Mahomes. The kids getting better.

Patriots Dolphins. TB to AB, 72nd player. That in itself is remarkable to catch a touchdown from Tom Brady. He may be the most talented, or at least the second most talented, after Randy Moss. It felt like to me, New England was experimenting in the first half of this offense. Patriots 38 points a game. Listen, if we're going to give Lamar credit for chewing up the dolphins, we've got to give

Tom Brady some credit. I think the AB thing is a must have as long as Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid are together, and I think that's why they did it. They're looking around the room and thinking, we got one obstacle in the AFC, and it's Andy Reed and Mahomes and Tyreek Hill and Travis Kel. and we're not going to be outman. Cardinals Ravens did not disappoint. Is this the future of the NFL?

I don't know. My entire life, you have to win the NFL, you have to win playoff games from the pocket. Weather gets cold, ground gets hard, but it was fun. I mean, Kyler Marie threw for 349 yards in his second game. You know, and then Lamar Jackson, 250 throwing and 120 running. That was a great throw, by the way. Is it the future of the league? I don't know.

It's entertaining. It's new. It's different. I've never seen football like this, but it's Ravens are 2-0. Seahawks Steelers. Give Russell love. Yes, big Ben's out for the year. Steelers are a mess.

Russell's ridiculous. Six incompletions. Three touchdown passes, 300 yards. Every single receiver that Seattle gives him, drafted, undrafted, high low, small, short, fast, slow, they all work. The guy to me is Steve Young, and I think he may end up being better than Steve Young.

He's a right-handed shorter Steve Young. Jaguars, Texans, please protect Bashan. Sacked four times, 10 on the year. By the way, he's been sacked 72 times in the past two years. Now, they did play yesterday, a left guard who they drafted, and they have a Laramie Tunzel. So the left side of their offensive line, is going to be better. It's going to take some time.

So they are addressing that that I'm thankful for. Saints Rams. Told you so. Listen, New Orleans is a pop-gun offense. Don't blame the refs. Yeah, they butcher a call, but this offense, Breeze Teddy Bridgewater, they don't throw the ball down the field.

How do you watch Kansas City and then watch the Saints in the last 15 games and think it's the same kind of game? Drew Breeze had two possessions, picked off three and out. The Rams, by the way, had two big over-the-top plays. I think we have, I think that bad NFL call in New Orleans is masquerading the truth. This has become a very limited Saints offense. It's been a great brand for 14 years. It's really limited now.

Vikings Packers, aggressive, not passive. Do you know for the first time in Aaron Rogers' career, he is a play-calling cheat sheet on his wrist to help speed up the offense. I like it. He's growing. This is a tough offense. Let's slow down on the criticism here. Chicago defense, Minnesota defense. Those are great defenses.

Like, slow down on this. He won. He got good touchdowns early in momentum. But I like the confrontation on the sideline. I'd like to see more of that. Get off Milwaukee radio stations, ripping your coaches. Confront them. Yel at the sidelines.

The Kobe Bryant method. I like it. How about Niners, Bengals? Niners are fun. Eight different guys caught passes. Six different San Francisco players had carries. Everybody loves Sean McVeigh, and I like Sean a lot. Are we sure he's the best young coach in his division?

Kyle Shanahan, I'm watching yesterday the schemes. I mean, they got backs who can catch and receivers who can run. This is a developing story in the NFL, because this is a real, I mean, Garoppolo's got what, like a dozen starts? Keep your eye on San Francisco. Keep your eye on this division, by the way. If Kyler Marie and Arizona are a tough out, you're going to have four legitimate offenses in this division.

Rams, Niners, Arizona, and Seattle. We could end up having four real teams in this division. Colts Titans. Remember these Titans. Oh, good Lord. I mean, they can't beat the Colts. They can't beat them now without Andrew Luck. Marcus Moriota threw for 150-some yards.

Poor Clay Travis. He just had a meltdown yesterday on Twitter. You know what my feeling is on Tennessee? It's time to draft another quarterback. Let's, come on, let's move on. Chiefs Raiders, Mahomes' second quarter. Four TDs, 278 yards in the second quarter. This is all-time stuff, folks.

Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes. We said this before the season. Next 12 years, if they're conjoined here, you're going to have at least four Super Bowl appearances, maybe more. You know, Brady wearing kale pajamas may knock a few of those down, but they are really all-time stuff. Chargers, Lions. What was that? Philip Rivers, 58% completion percentage? Interception, 73 passer rating, the Lions?

I mean, come on. I mean, listen, they're missing Derwin James. and I like Melvin Gordon, but you can't. This is the Chargers here. You got to go into Detroit and win that game. That game was there for the taking and you blew it. Eagles Falcons, fourth down, finally. You know, a couple years ago,

Julio Jones caught the ball, fourth down, out of bounds. Oh! Then 2018 failed fourth down attempt, and the Eagles went again. Finally, on fourth down the audible, Julio Jones, finally. Atlanta beats Philly. Bears Broncos found a kicker. Eddie Piniero, 53-yarder to win a game. The Jets and the Bears were trying out local chefs in the preseason

to find a guy. So the irony here, a 53-yarder to win it. And Chicago, trailing late rejoices. Finally, Bill's Giants, New York champions, Buffalo's 2-0. Both at MetLife, they have more wins at MetLife than the Jets and the Giants combined. I will say this. Buffalo has the most underrated coaching staff in this league. They are doing an amazing job with Josh Allen. They have figured out what he can do and what he can't. The herd Monday done.

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