The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best Of Nick Wright - What’s wrong with Luka? LeBron debate over, responding to Draymond Green

Episode Date: February 22, 2025

Nick Wright explains why LeBron James is more clutch all-time than Kobe Bryant, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, and all your favorite players…and he has the numbers to back it up. Later, Nick breaks... down why bashing LeBron for missing the NBA All-Star Game makes no sense, responds to Draymond Green’s criticism of All-Star Weekend, and answers what’s wrong with Luka Doncic since joining the Los Angeles Lakers. #HerdSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:28 However, it's not because if you. people didn't stay up to watch this game let me give you the quick recap lakers were up 20 they then slowly but surely blew the game they then late down four uh well actually down to ruy misses back-to-back free throws with 35 seconds left just a killer just a good free throw shooter misses both. They then find themselves down four after Lamello kind of cooks Luca out on the perimeter and they get a layup. LeBron hits an impossible three to cut it to one.
Starting point is 00:03:09 The Hornets then Lamello hits a couple free throws and then LeBron has a really good but deep look and misses it. They get the rebound, gets another decent look and misses it and they lose. And I'm like, man. I was like, we're going to have to talk about how sad Luca looks. That to me is the actual story. Little did I know, and this is a bad job by me, bad media, you know, kind of seeing the tea leaves. I missed what the obvious story was going to be.
Starting point is 00:03:47 LeBron missed another clutch shot, which by the way, he has been shockingly bad at those. in the regular season since he's been a Laker. Last five seconds, shots to tie or take the lead as a Laker, one of 29. So like really, really bad at those in the regular season. And that's a legitimate complaint, I guess, like whatever. But I foolishly thought we were done with and passed the LeBron Clutch Gene stuff. I thought maybe, and you guys know, I've always been pretty respectful to my former colleague, Skip Bayliss, but I did think that with Skip moving to a different part of his career, maybe the LeBron clutch gene stuff would, you know, wander off into the sunset as well.
Starting point is 00:04:49 because, not because it's unfair to talk about whether or not guys can come through in the clutch, but because it has always been an empire built on lies. But, you know, a mid-February regular season game against the Hornets, Miss 3s, it's like, man, Kobe would have made that. So now I have to, I don't want to do this, but now I have to be the person.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And by the way, this is something that if we edit this properly, because I'm going to machine gun you with numbers, and put this on the TikTok and the Instagram, folks are going to say these are fake stats because there's such a mandela effect of, oh, I know what I remember and what is true and what isn't. So again, I did this 18 months ago. I looked it up in our archives. I will now do it again with the updated numbers. Thanks to our friends at Stadhead and basketball reference, the database goes back to 1997 to now.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Here are the clutch shooting numbers for LeBron and for all your favorite players. We will go from the max to the men. So the set the setup is this shots to tie or take the lead in the playoffs final minute LeBron James 23 of 50 46% that is a better percentage than every player in in the database from 97 to now except for de Monses guy Ray Allen who was just an absolute killer So it's not only that LeBron has made the most and taken the most, 46%. You might be like, well, and 97 to now, that covers Kobe's entire career. Kobe was assuredly better than LeBron at these. Again, playoff games, tie, take the lead final minute.
Starting point is 00:07:00 LeBron 23 of 50, 46%. Kobe Bryant, 12 of 44, 27%. Kevin Durant, 9 of 35, 25. 26%. Steph Curry, 6 of 25, 24%. You want to go to, we've heard forever. You know, LeBron, just put his head down, get to the basket. Doesn't have the bag. What about threes?
Starting point is 00:07:30 LeBron, final minute of playoff games. To tie or take the lead, four of 11 from three. Kobe Bean Bryant, three of 17. Kevin Durant three of 16 Steph Curry three of 14 Let's go smaller Final 30 seconds Playoff games tie or take the lead
Starting point is 00:07:57 LeBron James 14 of 35 40% from the field Kobe Mr Clutch killer Kobe Bryant Bron 14 of 35 40% Kobe 8 of 31 26% Durant 6 of 24 25% Steph 4 of 19 21% let's go smaller let's go to the stat that we're hearing about LeBron and the regular season as a Laker final five seconds tie or take the lead in the playoffs LeBron, 8 of 20, 40%. Kobe Bryant, 4 of 18, 22%.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Kevin Durant, 2 of 11, 18%. Where is Steph on this? I know he's on this somewhere. I can't even find him. Step maybe hasn't taken in the final five seconds. Oh, there's Steph. One of six, 17%. So the reason the LeBron clutch thing has always been so such an outrage and an affront to kind of the way we consume basketball at large is it was literally not only was it never true, the opposite was true. the guy hit a game winner in the first playoff series of his career at 21 years old
Starting point is 00:09:44 and if we go for again now I'll just do percentages and show you the full list of guys in the last 30 years in the NBA who have been more clutch in the postseason final minute tire take the lead of every player to take at least 15 of those shots there have been 20 in 20th place This one's rough Russell Westbrook 3 of 24 In 19th place Steph Curry 6 of 25
Starting point is 00:10:15 Second place LeBron James 23 of 50 46% Ray Allen First place By a lot 11 of 21 52% If you want to do
Starting point is 00:10:28 3 point percentages Ray Allen sits alone 10 of 16 pretty remarkable 10 of 16 63% dame 5 of 10 50% Reggie Miller fair's fair 6 of 13 46% and then Lebron 4 of 11 36% you go down the Russell Westbrook yikes again 1 of 14 that's 7% Kobe 3 of 17 17% Steph 3 of 14.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Again, if you want to just go raw percentages, final 30 seconds of the playoffs, tire take the lead. The only guy ahead of LeBron is Ray Allen, 9 of 18, 50%. LeBron 14 of 35, 40%. Ray Allen, by the way, final 30 seconds on threes de Monzae, 8 of 13 to tire take the lead in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:11:34 Guy just unbelievable on those shots. Got the gene. He's maybe the best ever. Statistically is the best ever. Now, if we expand that to where you don't have to have taken 15 of these shots, just to where you only had to have taken 10, two more guys jump ahead of LeBron. One is Chris Middleton, six of 11 in the playoffs to tie or take the lead in the final 30 seconds.
Starting point is 00:12:02 and Jimmy Butler, 6 of 13 at 46%. LeBron 14 to 35. But again, the guy in your head that was the ultimate clutch guy, Kobe Bean Bryant, on these shots, final 30 seconds, Tire take the lead, 8 of 31 from the field, and on threes, one of 12. Final 30 seconds, Tire take the lead in the playoffs, and Steph Curry, four of 19 overall.
Starting point is 00:12:32 all again these numbers are not very kind to Russell Westbrook Russ one of 14 from the field 0 of 9 from 3 and then last but not least final five seconds tire take the lead playoffs if we just make it to where have you taken five of these shots because LeBron's taken 20 the only guys with a better percentage Jimmy Butler's 3 of 5 Reggie's 5 of 9 Middleton's four of eight, LeBron is eight of 20, 40%. And on threes in those spots, LeBron's two for five, 40%. Kobe, who everyone remembers as the ultimate clutch killer, final five seconds of playoff games to tie or take the lead, four of 18, 22%, one of seven from three.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Steph, one for six, Durant, two for 11. from the field. So I, so the lesson on this is multifaceted. One is nobody really, aside from Ray Allen, shoots an amazing percentage on these. Nobody. But shooting more than 30% on them is remarkable. And across every five second, 30 second minute,
Starting point is 00:13:58 playoff game, tie, take the lead. LeBron's looking up at one guy, Ray Allen. And again, you might be like, well, Jordan, I know Jordan was 80%. The database only goes back to 97, so I can't tell you what Jordan was. The NBA is very cagey about play-by-play data early in Michael Jordan's career. Maybe it's because the 80s were a different time, or maybe they're, you know, protecting a legend. I don't know. What I do know is this, that if you asked a hundred basketball fans what they thought Kobe or LeBron,
Starting point is 00:14:35 or Durant or LeBron or Steph or LeBron's percentages were in these circumstances. The vast majority would look at Kobe's numbers and be like, those are LeBron's and look at LeBron's numbers and say those are Kobe's. And even after I present this data, you know what folks are going to say? I don't believe it. It didn't feel that way. And the reason it didn't feel that way and the reason I'm doing this today is because no other player ever could miss a 28 footer down three after hitting the three to cut it to one
Starting point is 00:15:14 in a regular season game against the Hornets when he was the best player on his team that night and have that morning sports television be an indictment on him. The reason you don't remember the Kobe misses is because every single, single Kobe game wasn't a referendum on his clutch or anti-clutchness. There's been one athlete ever that has been treated like this. And it's the same guy who was criticized for not playing in his 21st straight All-Star game and then was criticized for playing last night. Oh, looked awful healthy last night, didn't he?
Starting point is 00:16:00 But he couldn't, yeah, it's the regular. With his ankle. You saw that, right? Yeah, you were having a good time. Good thing he got that rest on Sunday. For real. 100%. Might not have been able to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:16 So I do find these. I find this stuff fascinating for no other reason than how gaslit kind of sports media has been or sports fans have been by sports media. Like Chauncey Billups, Mr. Big Shot is his nickname. Chauncey Billups in the final minute of playoff games to tie or take the lead is 5 of 20. The exact same 5 of 20 is James Harden.
Starting point is 00:16:51 But it's just not how we remember it because we remember the moments of it. So, Also, there's a couple funny names on, like, if you go through the, in the last 30 years, the 20 guys who have taken at least 15 shots in the final minute of playoff games to tie or take the lead, the names, it's all names of like, oh, okay, stars, Hall of Famers, all-time greats, and then also Haydh Tercaloo, who took 16 of these. And I just imagine that was because he was on deep playoff runs with Dwight.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And, you know, Dwight, you're not going to give the ball to. He was the guy who ended up having to take those shots. Yeah. But it's, it's Ray Allen, LeBron, Jimmy, this is in order of field goal percentage descending. Number one, Ray Allen, then LeBron, Jimmy Butler, Reggie Miller, Manu Genoobli, Chris Middleton, John Stockton, Dirk Novitzky, Steve Nash, Damian Lillard, Haydoo Turkleut, Tim Duncan, Dwayne, Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce, Kevin Durant, Chonty Billets, James Hardin, Steph Curry, Russell, So again, it's like, 17 no doubt Hall of Famers,
Starting point is 00:18:05 two borderline Hall of Famers, and Haydoo. So shout out to my guy, Haydu, Turkleu. I don't know why he's my guy. Hey, it's us to Jonas Brothers, and guess what? We have some big news. What's the news, new? Huge news. We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas.
Starting point is 00:18:23 We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. Pretty, yeah, pretty wide range of podcasts throughout there. but this one's extra special. So how do we actually come up with a name Hey Jonas, guys?
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Starting point is 00:20:42 or wherever you get your podcasts. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defining the odds. Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed. And finding ways to win no matter what. He's the smartest player to ever. to play the game. His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before. And he knows. Without
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Starting point is 00:21:45 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who knew so many people gave two shits about Norman Powell making the All-Star game? And the answer is they didn't. The idea, the amount of people that were tweeting about Norman Powell, because if LeBron had bowed out a week early, Powell would have gotten the spot, the Venn diagram of people who two weeks ago, DeMonsei, were like, these Pro Bowl alternates, it's such a joke.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Drake May gets to call himself a pro bowler. when he didn't actually make the team. And then tweeting this week, why aren't people thinking about Norman Powell? The fans in San Francisco definitely wanted to see him play. It's disingenuous nonsense. And the idea that there was any way for LeBron to thread this needle and not end up being criticized is just disingenuous and not true.
Starting point is 00:22:54 So if he would have a week ago said, I'm not playing, the media cycle would have been, this is why nobody takes the All-Star game seriously. This is, you know, people are excited and the face of the league doesn't do it. LeBron gave it to the last possible minute to figure out, can I play? And it's not so much can I as much as it is should I. Like if it were a playoff game, would LeBron have played? Of course. Does that mean that when he clearly believes this Lakers team has a real chance to do something
Starting point is 00:23:36 and this Lakers team because of the California wildfires has the shortest break of any team, well, them and the Hornets, because they play Wednesday and the rest of the league plays Thursday, that he was like, you know what, not going to push it on this ankle? that makes total sense to me. And the number of people who fail to acknowledge the following truths. Okay, first of all is this. Has anyone given more time, effort,
Starting point is 00:24:08 sweat, energy to All-Star Games in the history of basketball than LeBron James? The answer is, of course, no. He's played in 20 of them. Kareem played in 18, the next closest are Kobe and Duncan at 15. Has LeBron consistently shown up to this event? More than any player in the history of the league.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Yes, by a massive margin. This broke his streak. And the other reason that people are just so out of their damn minds about this is one criticism of LeBron that I don't even look at it as a criticism, but is true is the guy cares about streaks and records and accolades. He does. And he would have liked to keep this thing going. 21 straight all-star appearances.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Because the record prior to LeBron playing in 20 in a row, again, 20 in a row was held by John Havlicek and Bob Coosie, who both played in 13 in a row. That was the record. So LeBron set the record for consecutive All-Star game appearances back. Let me do them. Before he was a Laker, when he was with the Cavs, midway through his second sit with the calves, and it's just been spreading it out. Of all the active players other than LeBron,
Starting point is 00:25:41 Durant is the only one who has played in 10 of these in a row. He did that pre-Achilles. The new active streak for consecutive All-Star games played is Joker at 7. So this is the guy that we're going to say owed it to everyone to play, the guy who's played in 20 straight of these. The oldest player in the league, a guy who has literally played more professional basketball than any human being ever to live, we're like, give us more. And if you don't, you're selfish. It's just so ludicrous. And then there's this piece of it.
Starting point is 00:26:25 And I'll get to the picture stuff later. There is, so Nick Fidel, who I really like, I really like him. He was with the SPN. I think I don't want to speak for him. But the way I understand it, I think he was absolutely foolishly a part of their layoffs months back. He is a great NBA reporter, opinionist, Chicago guy.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Love Nick. Nick quote tweeted it and said, there is just absolutely no way MJ would do this. He always understood what his presence to the game meant. Guys, Michael Jordan at this
Starting point is 00:27:08 point in his career had quit the game three times. His presence to the game meant so much that he quit the game. He went and played minor league baseball, then he came back, then he quit again, then he came back, then he quit again. Do you know the most consecutive years
Starting point is 00:27:32 that Michael Jordan played in an All-Star game? Seven. Seven years. The longest streak of consecutive All-Star appearances as Michael Jordan had was seven. There's no way MJ would do. So this is where the criticism, people just lose their minds. So if LeBron had just retired four years ago,
Starting point is 00:28:00 no problem, no problem. You win your championship with the Lakers. You've played at that point 18 years. You know what? You've given a lot to the league. But because he keeps playing, because he's good enough to be a deserving top-tier all-star. He then, to these, and I'm going to talk about Nick here,
Starting point is 00:28:26 talking about the folks at large, folks that have just become entitled that, no, you owe us this, he's not allowed to be cautious with an ankle injury. Oh, Nick, where'd this injury come from? from Solomon Hill three and a half years ago. The only real injury he's ever suffered his entire career. That ankle and foot have been messed up since then.
Starting point is 00:28:55 He's, and if you're, if you watch the Lakers, LeBron all the time pops up on a morning of injury report because the ankle tightened up on it. And do I imagine that in the days leading up to the All-Star Games, he actually took some time, maybe didn't do his regular everyday cryogenic chamber treatment that he would do if they had actual games coming up. So it was more likely to tighten up, of course. Of course.
Starting point is 00:29:33 This being such a universally criticized thing that even Shannon and Kendrick and guys who are normally, you know, LeBron's side on stuff, he's like, oh, this was, this is a bridge too far for me. What are we talking about? I've seen fans go as far as to say,
Starting point is 00:29:53 as like LeBron's ruined the game. Well, oh yeah, well, that's the other piece of it. The other piece of it is the fall of the All-Star game is laid at the feet of LeBron James.
Starting point is 00:30:07 I mean, it's just, again, the All-Star game in 2020 was awesome. The All-Star game in 2022 was awesome. And this is just, it is just an entitlement from fans and media that a guy, can you imagine
Starting point is 00:30:27 any of these conversations existing around Tom Brady? Honestly, could you? That if Tom Brady, his second to last year with Tampa was like guys, which he did do, by the way, I know I was named
Starting point is 00:30:43 to pro bowler, I'm not going to play. And it's not because I'm hurt. It's just because not interested. It's exactly what happened. Was there a, could you imagine how stupid folks would look if they went on TV and they were like, Tom Brady. This is why it's a flag football game now. See, this guy.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Look at the direct line of the pro bowl's popularity with when Tom entered the league and where it is. now blood's on his hands and then we get to the photo stuff guys there's like this is all documented injured players still are in the photo oh they don't have to be at the middle you guys go look at the picture of Yao when he was hurt and obviously the middle of that picture has to be lebron step kd just has to be Those are the guys. You, and people aren't like, oh, they'd have less criticism if he was off to the side.
Starting point is 00:31:50 What'd you say? Could have put the jersey off. DeMonte. First of all, the injured players, when Kobe was injured, he didn't suit up. When other guys were injured, they don't suit up. But everyone is lying if they are acting like. If LeBron had suited up for the picture, there wouldn't be this exact criticism. It would just be the exact opposite.
Starting point is 00:32:17 This guy. Why was he suited up and not in street? Why was he suited up? Oh, he wants people to think he play. This guy's ankle so hurt. You don't think he, again, none of this shit is logical. It's just, it's LeBron. I'm going to attack it.
Starting point is 00:32:36 If he'd have suited up, he'd have gotten roasted for it. Jan is suited up. And again, Anthony Edwards, who in the meantime, He didn't play either. He gave less notice than LeBron. We found out during the game. Anybody crying for Norman Powell with Anthony Edwards? No, Anthony Edwards allowed to be injured.
Starting point is 00:32:57 Why? Why is he, because he's 23 at the peak of his powers, young, athletic? No, it's so dumb. This whole thing is so stupid. And it is, I don't understand how people call this selfish. I don't get that. No, dude, he doesn't really have to be playing right now.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It is crazy for him to get criticized on anything that he doesn't do because any extra time at this point. He's in year 22. He has now played more minutes in years 21 and 22, then every other player in the history of the league who made it to year 21 and 22 combined. So let me say that again.
Starting point is 00:33:52 As of two years ago, if you said, give me all of the minutes, all of the points, all of the assists from every player ever in year 21 and 22, and put it in a bucket. That bucket is now doubled just from what LeBron's done the last two years.
Starting point is 00:34:16 And for, it's just, folks say, oh, he's the face of load management. The guy is going to play more games and more minutes than any player in the history of the league. And he's the face of not playing. I mean, give me a fucking break. This stuff, people are out of their mind. And I, again, I mean, Kendrick's saying, put your damn uniform on, he messed up the whole picture.
Starting point is 00:34:43 Again, where was this for Kobe or for Yao or for Sha? It's just a touch. His greatness at the end of the day, though, is really what it is, I feel. What do you mean? People want to see him play. People are outraged. It's like, I don't think it's, I think people just want to see Braun. Oh, I agree with that piece of it.
Starting point is 00:35:02 I don't see him. But the criticism about the picture and about, again, I, LeBron cares about these records. And also, he likes the accolades of winning. And he knew, um, I have the best team by a mile. Like, they won it without it. Right. So, and it's two games to 40, he could have, like, he, he, he, going into Saturday night,
Starting point is 00:35:33 I truly believe, did not know if he, he, he, he, he, going into Saturday night, I truly believe, did not know if he was going to play or not. Then woke up Sunday mornings like, I'm not doing it. And so I just find so much of this to be just insane. Now let's talk about the Luca piece of it,
Starting point is 00:35:53 DeMonse. I think he's legit sad and I think he is really unsettled by this. He looks so unsure of himself. Go ahead.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Oh, just like the train in general? Yeah, okay. Yes. I think that he is still in a state of shock that this happened. And I don't think it's about wanting or not wanting to be a Laker. I think it's more about this team that he looked at himself as the leader of, obviously the best player, this franchise that I think he truly believed. He might be able to do what Dirk did and play with one team forever.
Starting point is 00:36:45 That they traded him under the dark of night and then have done everything they can to just tell the world, we don't believe in you. We thought you were a bad leader, a mediocre teammate, out of shape, all of it. He seems less confident on the court than it, moment of his career and Luca is at his best when he's like a snarling angry monster but he also has to have that kind of swagger and confidence and I just haven't seen it and I don't know what how long this is gonna this is gonna take but he looks and he looks and he
Starting point is 00:37:39 looks relieved when he makes a shot. He looks unsure of what he wants to do with the ball. And it's not again, I'm not sure how many people stayed up late to watch the entirety of Lakers Hornets. I oddly did. Late in the game, he like, there was, I forget, I think maybe Braun shot it. I'm not sure. There's a miss shot and Luca is down fighting on the offensive glass.
Starting point is 00:38:09 gets a rebound and gets a putback is to tie the game. It's a huge play. And you saw a shot of him after that. And it was, it wasn't even like, it didn't, again, I'm not a body language expert, but just from watching this guy every step of his career, it wasn't excitement as much as it was relief. Like, ah, I finally made a play.
Starting point is 00:38:34 And I don't know how long this is going to last. My hope would be, the Mavs game next week snaps him out of it. That there is, that seeing like, that that is, because the Lakers host the Mavs on Tuesday. So they have the Blazers tonight.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Daniels. A couple games in between that. Nugget Saturday. Yeah. Correct. And I would imagine LeBron's not playing tonight. So maybe tonight, like with Luca,
Starting point is 00:39:09 just running the full show. But, so I'm not, I'm not as worried about what these losses mean for the Lakers in the standings. Because I know we talked about could they catch Denver, climb to the three. And, you know, put Denver and OKC on the same side of the bracket. Losing to Utah and Charlotte probably made that, I don't want to say unrealistic, because they could beat Denver on Saturday and then just be a game back. But I now look at it more like just stay in the four or five. Don't fall to the six where you might have to play Denver in round one.
Starting point is 00:39:49 That sounds awful. Stay in the four, five, and then theoretically get Houston or the clippers in round one and then take your chances with OKC. And again, OKC is a great team, great team. But for the team that young, I think they're playing Luca who beat him last year in the playoffs and LeBron could be tough
Starting point is 00:40:13 and then you know see what happens with Denver but Luca is out of sorts like really truly out of sorts and he seems like he has not yet fully dealt with or is consistently still dealing with
Starting point is 00:40:34 the trade There's also evidently some breaking news to Monzae. You want to share it with the audience? Yeah, Bobby Portis has been suspended 25 games for performance enhancing drugs. Yeah, so I'm trying to... So, yeah, I mean, there's only 29 games left, and the bucks need him. Let me... I just saw someone tweeted that his agent...
Starting point is 00:41:00 So, um, what his agent is saying that Bobby unintentionally took a pain medication called tramadol, thinking he was taking a pain medication called Toridol. Toridol's approved. Tramidol is not approved, but this is recently out of the banned substance list. Tramidol, I feel like I've taken Tramidol. Yeah, I've heard of Tramidol before. Yeah, I think Tram at all, so it's a painkiller. Maybe I was wrong. I thought Tramidol was like an anxiety thing, so maybe I haven't taken it. Tor at all, we all know, a lot of football players take. Tramidol.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Oh, yeah, Tramidol is a super strong pain killer. It's an opioid. So listen, everybody always takes steroids by accident. We all know this. Like nobody's ever actually intentionally violated the performance answering drug policy. I don't know. You know, so people can decide whether or not they want to believe Bobby Portis's
Starting point is 00:41:57 agent. That's fine. What does matter is this bad for the Bucks. It is bad for a Bucs team that is trying to climb the Eastern Conference standings. Now, they, I think it's more important for them to just stay where they're at
Starting point is 00:42:14 in the 4-5 line rather than, they're not going to move up. There's six games behind the Knicks, so they're not going to catch the Knicks for the three. But what they don't want to do is fall to the six and then end up having to play the Knicks in round one.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Like there's clearly three teams in the east in Boston, Cleveland, and New York that seem that are considerably better than everyone else with Milwaukee lurking because of Janice. Milwaukee doesn't want to have to face one of those three in round one. And you traded Middleton. Uh, you, I know you have Coosma now. Cusma, though. Shout out of Kyle Cusma. Good for him, buddy. Congrats. Engage Winnie Harlow. Unbelievable. Um, I know they've been together for a long time. but the
Starting point is 00:43:07 listen Kyle Kyle was once upon a time a real pro for that Lakers team he was a real pro as the year they won the championship
Starting point is 00:43:17 did the dirty work rebounded defended did all that stuff then went to the Wizards and just played nonsense basketball for three years but maybe now that he's with the bucks
Starting point is 00:43:27 he'll be a real pro again but Milwaukee needs to stay where they are in the in the bracket they can't drop down to the sixth Hey, it's us, the Jonas Brothers. And guess what? We have some big news.
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Starting point is 00:44:04 And we were thinking I'm originally calling it one of the early names of our band before Jonas Brothers. This is how you guys remember it going down? Yes. I have a very different memory of this. We were talking about a thing, a bit for the podcast, people could call in and say, hey, Jonas. And then I wrote down on my little notepad, Hey Jonas, and offered it up as a potential title for the podcast. But thanks for remembering that, guys. Listen to Hey Jonas on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
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Starting point is 00:45:09 You might know me as that loud guy who yells out, help on the internet. Help! Somebody! Please! But there's so much more to me than that. I'm an actor. I'm a comedian. And recently, I've become quite the helper myself.
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Starting point is 00:46:05 or wherever you get your podcasts. Will Ferrell's Big Money Players and IHart Podcasts presents soccer moms. So I'm Leanne. Yeah. This is my best friend Janet. Hey. And we have been joined at the Hips since high school. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:46:17 Now a redacted amount of years later, we're still joined at the hip. Just a little bit bigger hips, wider. This is a podcast. We're recording it as we tailgate our youth soccer games in the back of my Honda Odyssey. With all the snacks and drinks. Sidebar. Did you get hard seltzer instead of beer? Oh, they had a bogo.
Starting point is 00:46:35 Well, then you got it. Do you want a white color or something here? Just take it. Oh, what are y'all doing? Microphones? Are you making a rap album? Oh, I would. Come on.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Could you believe? I would buy it. Cuts through the defense like a hot knife through sponge cake. That sounds delicious. Oh, you're lucky. I'm not a drug addict. You're lucky I'm not an alcoholic. You are.
Starting point is 00:46:55 You are. I'm not a killer. I love this team, and I'm really trying to be a figure in their lives that they can rely on. Oh, oh. Listen to soccer moms on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Self-appointed All-Star Draymond Green, who had, I mean, just a treasure 12 of quotes this weekend. Go ahead. So do you want me to just go through all of them?
Starting point is 00:47:24 I want you to go through all of them and then all and then I'll respond to each of them. So Draywan, you know, was talking to him getting a head coach and gig. He said, I've already been offered the Golden State Warriors head coaching job when I'm done. He also said they were going to win a title. He said, quote, I said, I think we're going to win a championship, but I lied. We are going to win the championship. That's what's going to happen. And he called out the Rising Stars game, and he said that there's some team that no one wants to see.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And his thoughts on the new format, 1 through 10, was a zero. It sucks. This ain't basketball. Okay. So Draymond Green being the head coach in waiting for the Golden State Warriors is news. And it would be treated as news if I think people took that seriously. The Warriors winning the championship, once again, Draymond is writing checks that Steph is going to have to cash.
Starting point is 00:48:27 I don't, I like Jimmy. But Draymond is, nowhere close to the player he was at the peak of their dynasty and staff is not quite the same player he now he came on strong at the end of the before the break but i would be they are far far more likely to lose in round one than they are to reach the finals and now let's get to the other stuff. He's right about the rising stars shouldn't be playing Sunday night.
Starting point is 00:49:10 I actually think that is correct. And that is a tweak they should make. I get why they did it to make it to where there was a real pressure on the stars. Like we can't let these kids beat us. But it should be a privilege. But as often happens with Dremond, while being correct, his delivery of the information is so poorly done that it's lost.
Starting point is 00:49:42 And being on the pregame show for an event, I felt so terribly for my dear friend Adam Lefko, who is the one who asked him the one to ten question. And then Draymond says a zero, this sucks. that buddy your your job in that moment is to create excitement for the event like that's people like oh i applaud the honesty i do not if you do not take that gig if that's how you feel I mean this sincerely. Like, let's say I thought pickleball was the dumbest sport ever. And then someone comes to me, they're like, hey, crazy thing, man.
Starting point is 00:50:38 They're asking you to be a part of the pickleball world championship broadcast. It would be my job to be like, you know what? Probably not the place for me. Not to be like, yep, I'll take it. I can tell all these people who are tuning in to watch it, how much this sucks. It's just, that's just rude. And it's unprofessional. They probably, like, they, they reached out to Draymond, like, hey, do you want to do this?
Starting point is 00:51:06 How would have, like, if Draymond has those thoughts in his mind, he knows that's how he's going to talk, you're saying he should just not do it. He should be like, no. I, I think that if, when, listen, he works for T&T, he does stuff for him. Right. I think that when they're like, hey, Josh. Just like the vast majority of years in your career, you did not make the All-Star team. So you're available this weekend. Would you like to do this?
Starting point is 00:51:34 I think that if he had been like, well, I think that if he had been like, sure, but just so you know, I'm going to tell the audience how much the game sucks, they might be like, ooh, all right, maybe we'll find something else. And this is the other piece of it that I find really galling. Why is he the Grand Puba? The All-Star game? Yeah, like, I, why? So of NBA history, Draymond Green, there are 147 people. who have played in more All-Star games than Draymond Green.
Starting point is 00:52:28 147. Like, was Chris Weber on that panel? I can't remember. I don't think he was. I'm not sure. Because Chris Weber's one of them. Carl Anthony Towns, who was in the game, is one of them. Kevin Love, who seems available, is one of them.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Like, Vince was on the stage. Vince has played in double. the All-Star Games is Draymond Green. Like who, he is not the, the, the arbiter or the czar of all-star history. He just isn't. And the idea that he, I just found it really, I'm going to use a nerdy word, uncouth.
Starting point is 00:53:20 It would, you would not have before. I mean, Stefan Durant are there and playing in it. They are taking it seriously. And for you to be like, this sucks, it's not basketball. Would he be feeling that way if he had been selected? Maybe, I don't know. It's like a degree of Antonio Brown taking his,
Starting point is 00:53:51 Jersey off and running off the field. It's just a little bit better than that, I feel like. Well, no, no, no. It's not that, but it would be, I'm trying to think of a good comp for it. It would be as if who is like a really good, but not all-time great NFL player. If Brandon Graham before this year's Pro Bowl was like, holding court about the way football must be played in a game that had all-time legends playing in it. Like, buddy, you have less experience with the All-Star game than Demarda Rosen.
Starting point is 00:54:40 Like, I'm not the, you need to make one more for your career total of All-Star appearances to be the same. as Al Horford or like what I'm just saying those are five times old stars like I I mean I'm just I'm not taking my all-star history lesson from a guy who has the same number of appearances as Otis Byrd song I'm just not and so like you can go somewhere with that and if you want to do it that's what the is for. Like, that's what the pod is for. Not for the game broadcast. Hey guys, it's us. The Jonas Brothers. I'm Joe. I'm Kevin. And I'm Nick. And guess what? We created our own podcast called, Hey Jonas. We invented a podcast? Well, we didn't invent it. We just contributed to it. We're the first people to do podcasts. We get to ask other people questions because
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