The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 01/01/19

Episode Date: January 1, 2019

Colin discusses why Pittsburgh Steelers WR Antonio Brown needs to grow up, the available NFL Head Coaching positions and why Cleveland shouldn't be the top choice, the new Herd Hierarchy, and Former NFL WR Greg Jennings stops by to talk about the drama going on in Pittsburgh. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are live in Los Angeles. IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Thank you so much for joining us today. You've got a lot of choices. In about six hours, the Rose Bowl, or whatevs. We appreciate that. breaking news throughout the course of the day with some coaching stuff. I'm working the phone.

Joy Taylor is joining me. How are you, Joy? Good morning. Happy New Year. Happy New Year to you. I went to bed at 1205 Eastern or 905 Pacific. We made it to like 1140 and we're like, you know what? Party girl, folks.

Party girl. I'm going to throw a piece of paper in a second at Joy. I'm going to get to that and I'll show you why because here is how I'm starting my show today. New Year's resolution. here is the number one new year's resolution in sports going forward that you and me and joy we're accountable for our mistakes Antonio Brown threw a football at Big Ben it was his third tantrum can you imagine and that's why I didn't play this week because he could have played he skip

practice he skip meetings he had a tantrum he threw a football at Big Ben if I did with joy after a disagreement. Instead of talking, I went, and I threw a paper at Joy. You know what you'd all say at home? Colin needs medication. Colin needs to grow up. This is why Antonio Brown didn't play.

He had his third tantrum. New Year's resolution, Antonio. It's on you, pal. It's not Mike Tomlin's fault. It's not Big Ben's fault. It's not the Rooney. family's fault. It's not the GM's fault. It's not the NFL. It's not Roger Goodell's fault. I would ground my 12-year-old son if he threw an object at my 18-year-old daughter.

I would ground him. Antonio Brown is a man. He's a 30-year-old man. New Year's resolution. Own your mistakes. I know that is zany. You want to blame Instagram. People are mean to you. Facebook, Twitter. Want to blame the ones. White House, want to blame Hollywood, want to blame this organization. No, no, no, no, no, you're a 30-year-old man. You threw a football at a teammate, third tantrum, could have played physically, weren't willing to. By the way, Mike Tomlin, and I've been critical of him, Mike Tomlin has to be concerned about 70 players, 18 coaches, he's got a general manager to answer to, Mike Tomlin has media responsibilities, and sometimes charity events. And he's got to worry

about a 30-year-old man throwing footballs and pouting. Now, this is going to be a very tough resolution for most of the American media, because the media panders to athletes. They always give them an out. Well, it's the culture. It's this, it's that. It's, you know, this opportunity. You can't blame the basketball player, the football player, the baseball player.

It's going to be very hard. But it won't be hard for me because I had the kind of parents that held me responsible. and if I have to be a sports parent today, this is on Antonio Brown. And here's the other problem is that football, you ever heard the saying, of course, Joy has, she grew up in a football family, next man up. That didn't come from baseball or basketball. Next man up is a football term. And what it means is, you've got 55 guys, her brother of the Hall of Famer Jason Taylor's hurt.

You got to put somebody in. Somebody's got to make a tackle. Got to have 11 guys. Next Man Up is a football term. And the reason NBA stars are coddled and treated the way they are because they're more valuable. They don't have a saying next man up. There is no next LeBron up. There is no next Kevin Durant up.

There is no next James Harden up. But in football outside of a couple quarterbacks, next man up. We're all big guys. Go tackle somebody. Go block somebody. But the Steelers have a very basketball culture. It's very star-driven. It's very dependent on stars.

And that works in the NBA because you can't replace Kevin Durant or LeBron or LeBron or Steph Curry. But this is a cautionary tale. Alabama and the New England Patriots are next man-up football programs and their dynasties. Between Alabama and New England,

they are not beholden to the star player. They're not. Between the two of them, it's a 25-year college and pro football. dynasty. The system is bigger than the player and it's always been bigger than the player in football. Even if the player is Brett Favre, we got a kid named Aaron Rogers, he's ready to go. Football is about the roster, not about the individual player. And Pittsburgh has become increasingly reliant on a star running back or a star quarterback or a star wide receiver.

New England is not. This story is about personal responsibility to a young man named Antonio Brown who is 30 years old. It is completely on him, the inability to disagree with somebody without throwing stuff at them. It's on him.

All right, I want to shift gears to this. Speaking of NBA, one of the things I try not to do on this show and we, Joy and I try not to do in the show, we all make mistakes. You never want to make the same mistakes over and over and over. I tell my kids that all the time. You're not perfect.

You're going to make a mistake. You're going to spill stuff. You're going to do dumb stuff. You can get bad. But try not to make the same mistakes over and over and over and over and over and over. Okay, the media is falling forward again. So James Hardin of the Rockets is on fire. James Hardin had 43 last night.

Another triple double last night. James Hardin's going crazy. it's December. Oh my God, look at this. It's unbelievable. Folks, don't fall for it. There's something in basketball called a usage rate. James Hardin has the highest usage rate in the NBA by a mile. That means he has the ball in his hands constantly. So therefore, his stats are through the roof, including all of his stats, including

turnovers, where he had nine last night. and by the way, we have seen point guards with high usage rates. Westbrook had one. Harden has it. John Wall has it. And those guards that drive to the basket in October and November and December and January and February and March. And James Hardin drives to the baskets and gets hammered by bigger athletes and gets knocked to the ground. And he's a smaller guy compared to a 68 240 guy.

And what happens? They wear down. Are we going to be fooled by this again? Go look at your December point leaders in the last several years. Westbrook Harden, Harden, Westbrook, Hardin, Westbrook, Hardin. You've seen Westbrook. He's out of gas by the first round. Do you remember what happened last year against Golden State?

James Hardin disappeared. He had one game. He was 0 for 11 on threes throughout the course of the series against the Golden State Warriors. Do you know what he shot three-pointers? 24% one year ago. Why? Why would James Harden ever shoot 0 for 11 on threes or 24% on threes? How is that possible?

Did he forget how to shoot? Did his vision go bad? No. His legs were shot. He was a shot fighter. Westbrook against Utah, a shot fighter. We've seen James Harden. We've seen Westbrook.

We've seen John Wall. We've seen Derek Rose. high usage rate guards have the ball in their hand constantly, scoring leaders in December and January, and the media goes crazy and oh my God, but the NBA has always been about late May and June. You know how in the NFL we talk about quarterbacks? Is that running quarterback sustainable?

I mean, we know Lamar Jackson's talented, but is it sustainable for 10 years that a 208-pound guy is running around getting hit? And it generally is not sustainable. It can win shortly. I'm not sure if Lamar Jackson is sustainable for a decade until he starts throwing more and running less. The same phenomena is in basketball.

Harden, Westbrook, wall, this massive usage rate. Get you massive numbers in December and January. And the little guys are warm. Born down by June. You want to know what's sustainable, because everybody's freaking out today about James Hardin's last 10 or 11 games. He's average in 35. It's the most amazing thing. I've seen this story on and on.

LeBron James last 11 finals games. This is at the end of the year. LeBron James last 11 games in the finals. This is what you call sustainable. 34 points, 13 rebounds, 10 assists, and. his field goal percentage goes up. You ever notice that LeBron's not the story of the league in December and January? Have you noticed this year LeBron's playing less and has the ball less?

Have you noticed that? Because LeBron is sustainable. He's not trying to win December. He's not trying to win January. In fact, January has been LeBron's worst month in his career. Oh, was January. we're falling for it again. Here's your December point leaders the last five years.

Two guys and it's ended the exact same way. They are out of gas by May. And when you talk about the greatest players of all time and you talk about Michael Jordan and I say six for six, is that about December? Nah, bra. It's about June. What James is doing is amazing. Seen it before. We'll see it again.

High usage rate equals remarkable December-January stats. And come May and June, the Warriors will be in the finals. And James Hardin and Westbrook and the usage leaders will not. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. It's an offensive league. That doesn't mean you have to hire an offensive coach. That's not what it means.

But a name that's not getting talked about, and I'm told he's more interested than he's letting out. It's Bruce Ariens. He has said he'd be interested in Cleveland. I'm told he would be interested in two other jobs. One specifically, Tampa Bay. So there are more candidates out there. Some of them are putting their names out.

out there. Some of them are taking their names out for political reasons. I'm told Bruce Ariens, who's a very good coach, offensive guy. Boy, I'll tell you, he could do a lot with one of these young quarterbacks. He's more interested than he's saying. But USA Today had a list this morning of the best of the eight job openings in the NFL. They ranked them and they put Green Bay One, Cleveland, two, Jets, Denver, Tampa, Miami, Arizona, Cincinnati. I will say this about Cleveland. when was the last time head coach of the Cleveland Browns was better than the head coach of the Denver Broncos. I mean, how about we...

Okay, well, I'm just going to throw this out there. This is an organization that couldn't see Bill Belichick was good. They had Nick Saban, too. He was in the organization, let him go. Belichick let him go. I'm not in the habit of defending the Cleveland Brown's organization. So I want to say this. I'm going to speak for men here.

men handle failure mostly the same it pisses us off we put our head down we work harder that's how we handle failure but men handle success differently some guys gonna buy a corvette jet skis gonna spend all my money's got last forever men who do not men businesses firms teams that do not have a history of winning don't handle little bits of success very well. It's called the lottery winner syndrome. Loser becomes winner. 50% go broke. Don't know what to do.

The Cleveland Browns, John Dorsey's a general manager. He built that Kansas City team. Why to get fired? Ego. Big ego. Baker Mayfield, good quarterback, issue. Even Greg Williams admits you don't tell Baker what to do. Ego.

Jimmy. Haslam owner has ruined Tennessee football, University of Tennessee football, the Browns. Ego. A lot of egos here. By the way, who they bring in? Todd Haley, Ego, Hugh Jackson, ego. A lot of egos in Cleveland. In the state of Ohio, Ohio State football wins a Rose Bowl.

They're not going to party all night. It's Ohio State football. They win all the time. They're winners. If they win the Rolls Bowl five hours from now, six hours from now, Ohio State's not a party all night. Ohio State's going to go, we win the Rose Bowl. That's what we do. And they will literally get on a plane that night and go recruit the next great players. They will not party. There'll be no champagne. Ohio State's winners. Winners handle success differently. Baltimore's in the playoffs.

So what? Again, who cares? They always are. Alabama in the final. So what? Who cares? Always are. New England in the playoffs. So what? Who cares? Always are. Cleveland finished in third place. third place beat one team that's in the playoffs Baltimore with Flacko had a last place schedule and they're celebrating like it's 1999 losers give them a little bit of success they don't know how to handle it Jacksonville losers little success implodes

Minnesota Vikings don't know a lot of Super Bowl trophies up there in Minnesota little success last year Atlanta Falcons, Little Sixth of... This is the way it works with guys who have never been successful teams, businesses, firms, coaches, players. Cleveland got an inch of success. And I mean, an inch. They finished third place in their division. I don't know if I would call it success.

I would call it an inch of improvement. But they're not treating it like that. If you even... What do you say to people when they get successful? Like, act like you've been there before. They haven't been there before. They don't know how to act. By the way, now this Cleveland job, it used to be there were no expectations.

But now if you go in, well, you've got Baker Mayfield. Look at our team. It's unbelievable. No, it finished in third place. Doesn't feel like it, though, huh? That's because Cleveland is selling you. Look at how success. That's what people with egos who haven't been successful, who get a little bit of success.

You tell me in your lifetime, when Cleveland's, been a better job than the Denver Broncos. Let's start with never and work our way from there. Denver just had a bizarrely average seat. What was Denver's record this year? I don't have it in front of me. What was Denver's record? Six and ten. That is seen as an utter disaster in Denver. What was Cleveland's record? What do they win seven games? And you'd think they won the Super Bowl. People, teams, quarterbacks, firms do not handle success the same way. The lottery wins, Syndrome. Never had it. Now have a little of it. Maybe a lot of it. Implode. I'm not buying Cleveland for the next 10 years is a great job significantly better than the Denver Bronco

job. Do not believe that. And I don't care this morning who the quarterback is. I don't give me that. I don't care. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Heard hierarchy. Time is now, let's go. The top 10 NFL teams, according to college. Number 10. Listen, the Dallas Cowboys are 7 and 2 since Amari Cooper arrived.

That is, that's good for all receivers in the NFL. That's going to make a lot of wide receivers money. He has made a real impact, and this team is very good at home. The Cowboys have a way to play. In fact, they're 8 and 0 when Dak Prescott has a passer rating over 100. He usually has that when they play lesser defenses at home and have a running game. I think they have a low ceiling offensively and there's a certain way they have to play. I think their defense is good.

I don't think it's nearly as hot as Baltimore's or as good as Chicago's or as scary up front as the Eagles. That's why I put the Cowboys at 10. Number 9. Indianapolis. How can I put them ahead of the Cowboys? Because since week seven, they have the number one scoring defense in the NFL. Since week seven, they have the number one scoring point differential in the NFL. What's so special about week seven?

That's when NFL people believe Andrew Luck was finally completely healthy. Remember early in the year when they had to bring on his backup Jacoby Brissette to throw a Hail Mary pass? People think week six and seven, Andrew Luck, was completely healthy. They have won nine of ten since then, the Colts at number nine. Number eight. Listen, Philadelphia, I don't want any part of Philadelphia. Whatever it is with Nick Foles, no longer Fools Gold, Foles Gold, it works. He spreads the ball around better than Carson Wentz.

And I got news for you. This is an experienced team that's been through these playoff wars. And between Fletcher Cox and Michael Bennett, they led the NFL in quarterback hits. So Trabisky's going to run around and they're going to get shot. set him for three and a half hours. Philadelphia is a real team. Three weeks ago, Joy was here. When everybody in the NFC was battling for that final spot, I said, I'm taking Philadelphia. Their players are too good. Now they got a little over their skis. Got to write a book. Going to have multiple parades. A little dysfunction.

This defensive front is the best in the league. And I think they can go to Chicago and win. Number seven. You know, I sold most of my stock on the Rams about two months ago, but I didn't sell all of it. They are now rested. Todd Gurley has not played in two weeks and now gets a buy week. So Todd Gurley has not taken a shot in almost a month, and he really engineers this offense. What scares me about this team is that right golf has 11 turnovers since week 11. That's the most in the NFL.

He looks tired. I think they've relied too heavily on him. I think sometimes it is a glamour play-calling offense. Sean McVeigh is young and impatient and likes the big over-the-top play. I think this team's at its best when it's running the football. But I think they forgot about that. And so I haven't sold all my stock. I don't see them in the Super Bowl.

But I do think Todd Gurley, no hits in almost a month, that helps. Keep your eye on them. They could reboot a little and be very dangerous. Number six. Baltimore. Now, I don't think this offense is 10-year sustainable. Lamar Jackson's a thin kid running around, taking shots. Now, he's better than Tebow, but the Tebow thing lasted about six games.

I think this could last three or four seasons, maybe. But it's the hottest defense in the league. Seven of the last eight teams they've played, they've held under 25 points, including the Chargers. They're the best running game in football. and frankly, they're hard to defend. Nobody runs an offense like this. What team in the NFL says, okay, we're having practice this week. You pretend you're Lamar Jackson.

You can sort of pretend your Philip Rivers. You can pretend your Tom Brady. Nobody in the NFL runs this offense. I think they're incredibly difficult to defend in this little bubble. I don't know if it's sustainable. I have Baltimore at 6, though. Number 5. I think Chicago is more sustainable, and this isn't the hottest defense.

This is the best overall defense. They're at home, built for cold weather. I think they have the coach of the year in Matt Nagy. I do think when you have a defense that leads the NFL like the Bears did in scoring defense, rushing defense, takeaways, yards per play, defensive touchdowns. This is hands down the best defense. Baltimore's is hot. This is better. Philadelphia is good up front.

This is better. I think it's a low-ceiling offense. They have to win a certain way. They're 12-0. if they hold you to 24 or less. They are not built for a shootout. And if Nick Foles gets hot and it's a shootout, and you told me today the score is 3228,

I'm taking Philadelphia, and I think Philly's going to score some points on this team. Number four. These are my final four teams. They should be favored for the Super Bowl, New England. Only NFL team, though, an ain't no at home. Best coach in football. Completely healthy.

By the way, this is the underrated part. Every Patriots team that gets to a Super Bowl, they have one thing in common. It becomes a top 10 defense. Seven of their last nine opponents, including three straight, they have held below 20 points. Quietly as we've paid attention to Grom's demise and Brady, this defense, this could be the best secondary in the NFL. It is an exceptional secondary. They are getting a situational pass rush. They've got to buy, they play at home, and there's a lot of teams in the AFC I like.

Not many I like going to Foxborough in mid-January. Patriots 4. Number 3. I think the Chargers remain the best roster in the NFL. Why am I supposed to not like them now? Because they lost a close game to Baltimore facing Lamar Jackson an offense that it's hard to prepare for. Like I suddenly don't like them. They didn't have their number two back.

They didn't have their number one wide receiver. The Chargers are loaded. This team's weakness, they're not great at Garters. Why am I supposed to sell all my stock? Philip Rivers had a Pro Bowl year. They have the deepest core of running backs in the league, the deepest core of wide receivers in this league. As long as they don't go to Baltimore and there's a snow drift,

I think they're going to go there and win. Don't sell this team's stock just because they lost a close game to Baltimore. Well, I mean, you still love Baker-Mainfield. He lost a close game to Baltimore. I mean, come on. This is a loaded roster. Number two. Kansas City Chiefs.

Now, they're 0-1-6 in-home playoff game since the mid-90s. But I don't care. None of the players on this team, Patrick Mahomes wasn't there. Okay, they have a really good offense. But I'll say this about Kansas City. Their past defense is terrible. But they are tied for the NFL lead in sacks. Colin, what does that mean?

They are built. They need to play with a lead. Because if they lead, they, they will get after your quarterback. I don't know if I trust a playoff Patrick Holmes to come from behind. Their defense is totally flawed. We know their offense is good, but their defense does, is tied for the NFL lead in sacks.

That is a very important thing to note. It's why I put them number two. If they lead late in games and their defensive front knows the opponent's passing, they will get after you. So their defense is not great. They give up a lot of chunk plays, but it is a defense that is built to have. This is what Peyton Manning Bill Polion's Colts had.

They weren't a great defense, but Peyton played with leads, and when they did, they had Dwight Freeney coming off the edge. This defensive front for Kansas City, with a lead late, you got to throw. They will get after you. I got them at two. Number one.

Saints. Listen, they averaged 31 and a half points, but I think there's so much I like about them. I like their coach. I like their quarterback. I like their defense. Here's what I really like. They're going to play at home in the whole playoffs. Now, Kansas City is the number one seed in the AFC, but I don't think their home fields nearly as good as the Saints.

With the Saints, I'm getting the most good stuff. I'm getting a great coach. I get a great quarterback. I get a great run defense. I get an unbelievable home field advantage. I get a great running game. I just don't see this team. as having any real hole.

I don't love their back-end defense. But it's gotten better in the last month and a half. I think the Saints are the best team in the NFL and should win this year's Super Bowl. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like.

Lincoln Riley is the hot coach this year. And the story came out this morning. Lincoln Riley doesn't want to coach in the NFL. Tweet. Lincoln Riley, contract extension, Oklahoma. So now we have eight NFL openings and exactly two coaches that if they

got one of those openings, all fan bases would be excited. Mike McCarthy and Jim Harbaugh. If Jim Harbaugh got any of these eight jobs, Packers, Jets, Dolphins, Cardinals, Bucks, Browns, Broncos, Bengals, that fan base, ticket sales would increase. But all I hear about Jim Harbaugh, oh my God, that guy's overrated.

He's winning nine and a half a year at Michigan. By the way, he rebuilt it for the first three years. Legendary Bo Schembeckler in the 70s, won 9.2 a year, fewer games. And it should be noted that's in an era when there was far less competition and Michigan was one of about eight programs that had any money. Now everybody's got money, especially the Southern football powers. Jim's winning more games on average in a tougher environment. Scholarship limitations.

Bo didn't face that. 9.5 to 9.2. And he is also, along with Mike McCarthy, in fact, even more so than Mike McCarthy, the only coach, it's basic economic, supply and demand, that if he got one of the eight coaching jobs, any of the eight, ticket sales would increase. If you think Jim Harbaugh got a job at Cleveland tomorrow,

you don't think Brown fans would go nuts? They went nuts for finishing in third place this year. Cleveland fans went nuts for finishing in third. You don't think Harbaugh with Baker? That town would go crazy. Folks, do you know how economics work? Supply and demand. Jim makes $7 million a year.

Nick Saban makes close to 10. That's about right. Nick wins about three more games a year. A million a win. He's paid based on leverage. There are no great kids. candidates. Jim Harbaugh is one, if not the only candidate, college or pro that is a reasonable candidate that if he got the job, ticket sales would explode. That's how the game works. You are

worth what your leverage is. Lincoln Riley's taking himself out of the jobs. Who's available? Who would get people excited? You don't think Jet fans would like Harbaugh? You don't think Packer fans would like him? You don't think Brown fans would like him? This is how he cannot. comics work. He's making $7 million at Michigan. For his leverage, that is exactly what he should make. He shouldn't make 10. That's what Saban makes. Let me talk about John Harbaugh for a second. John Harbaugh's name is everywhere. How's that possible? If I told you there was a coach who had a quarterback who started in week 11, went six and one, and now was going to host a playoff game, you'd think John Harbaugh, he never want to leave that job. Why is John?

Harbaugh's name everywhere. Because John Harbaugh is allowing his name to be everywhere. If John Harbaugh thought this Lamar Jackson thing was 10 years sustainable, he would call his agent and say, take my name out of these jobs. The reason John Harbaugh's name is out there is because John Harbaugh privately has seen this sort of offense work briefly with his brother Jim. Jim got Colin Kampernick, ran around, beat the Packers, beat Aaron. and Rogers got to a Super Bowl and then never developed as a pocket quarterback because it wasn't

his thing, wasn't his game, and Jim Harbaugh got fired. John Harbaugh's brother has lived the life he's living. So when you see John Harbaugh's name up, and it's up this morning for six jobs, is because what he's selling and what they're selling in Baltimore to the public is, we are all in. The reality is they're saying, can we win like this for seven years? I don't know if we go in like this. Lamar might get hurt. So my little Harbaugh update, Jim is exactly paid based on leverage, based on the fact that if USC was looking for a coach today, the fans would ask for Harbaugh. The fans would want Harbaugh. The Packers want him. The Browns want him. The Jets want him. You're paid what your leverage is. Harbaugh is singularly uniquely leveraged in college football right now.

He can get the best college jobs. He can get the best pro jobs. He's paid exactly. what he should pay for his leverage. And John Harbaugh's name is out there because deep down, he has questions about sustainability because he saw what his brother went through with a highly talented running quarterback who never quite developed into the kind of quarterback you could trust to throw 35 times a game. We need to bring on a wide receiver. Greg Jennings joining us on the show today. So let's go psychology here. You were an overachiever. You didn't get Ohio State. You didn't go to Michigan, you went to Western Michigan University.

So, you would think Antonio Brown. Antonio Brown didn't go to USC. Antonio Brown didn't go to Texas. So we have a history in the NFL when a quarterback gets overlooked a little. They come in with a chip and they overachieve. Yes. That's the rule with quarterbacks.

Peyton Manning's the only quarterback last 20 years who came in as the best high school or the best college guy and overachieved in the NFL. Generally, that chip on the shoulder, it's a hard sport, So you were the classic. You were very good, but you had a little chip. Big dogs didn't give you a scholarship.

You end up being a great player. It should be that way with Antonio Brown, because I don't even know where do you go to school? Central Michigan. Central Michigan. And I thought he was that guy. Is it the money? Because this is his third tantrum. Tell me what's going on with him.

Well, when you listen to former teammates who have played with them and their reports on stories that has transpired, you give him money he's going to change Ryan Clark good friend he said that over on ESPN he did he did he did he said if you give Antonio money he did before he got his big deal when they were going to pay Mike Wallace and they said they weren't going to pay Mike Wallace they let Mike Wallace walk okay and they knew he knew Antonio Brown was up he knew that they were going to pay him he said you give this kid money he's going to be a problem wow he said that very same day they get into a spat he gets into with Dick LeBoe and Ryan Clark now he's very sharp great player for the Steelers for a long time understood what they were getting into and as players this is what this is your number one fear

when you can identify one of your teammates who you know as great of a talent as they may be man if we give them so you know it too oh yeah you know as a teammate you know 100% What is it? It's that guy who constantly is kind of on himself, feels himself. I'll give you a great example. Let's do this. So when I came into the league, there was a guy by the name of Brandon Marshall who's still out there. He was a fifth round draft pick, I believe, came in at the same year.

We're at the rookie symposium. He comes out on the resort campus, and he has on tights, no shirts, sunglasses. is like, what is this dude doing? That's who he was out the gate. And then later in his career, as his career developed, he made plays in Denver, Chicago, Miami, splashes in different areas. But then he started to mature.

He started to quiet. He started to understand that, wait a minute, this isn't going to be transferable into my next career. So let me fall back. Let me mature. Let me come of age, basically. Antonio Brown has done the absolute opposite. He came in, quiet guy.

Still's pretty quiet, but work ethic, unmatched, just head to the plow, hand to the plow, going to do whatever you ask him to do. But the moment you say here, here's the keys to the car, he doesn't want anybody else in the car because he wants to play his own music. He doesn't want anybody to have any input. So to Joy's point, or I'm sorry, not to Joyce,

but to your point of let's sit down and let's have this power. It's not going to work. He doesn't want what everybody else wants. Mike Tomlin wants Super Bowls. Ben Rothensberger wants Super Bowls. Antonio Brown wants everything for him. Business is booming as long as it's booming for me. So he's one of those guys.

He's one of those guys. And it's tough because you look like, when he got into the National Football League, a special teamer. He's always had to work to get to where he was. Yeah, if he was a quarterback, he's the classic what you want. Yes. And then to just see him implode like this, it's really disappointing. I just think the Steelers are going to have to part ways.

Listen, he showed up to training camp on a helicopter. You know, there's an old saying, was it Maya Angelou said this, that people will tell you who they are, believe them. If guys are showing up to practicing a helicopter, that's a pretty good indication that they're going to be about stuff and show you what they are. Yes, it's a show me. It's this persona that I have to uphold.

Why is it always wide receivers? It's not always wide receivers. It's a lot of wide receivers. It is a lot of wide receivers. It is. It's a lot of ego. I can't, honestly, I can't answer it. I have a theory on it.

My theory on wide receivers, you break the huddle first. It is the most basketball-driven position in football. You don't need a blocker. You don't need a handoff. Hey, I'll beat my guy in the perimeter. Throw it up. It is an isolation. It is a me position.

It is a, hey, you guys are in the system. Hell, I just break the huddle. I'm going to go down the sideline. It's the only time in football where you say, hey, we're going to throw it up and make a play. Football is very choreographed, very efficient, very driven, on a chalkboard. Aaron Rogers like, dude, I'm going to throw it up. You got to make a play. It's an NBA position.

NBA empowers the athlete. So these athletes, you guys all come in, your star is out of college. It's also the main highlight position. Yeah, I would agree more with that. If there's a long pass, if there's a Hail Mary, you're going to show the quarterback throwing it. Like, oh, it's a great throw, but you're going to show the catch.

You're very rare. You have no maintenance. You're a no ego guy. And Colin, this was why. And I think if more players, were like this, we wouldn't have this issue. The more you garner attention, the more everybody is going to pay attention

to every little detail that you do that is not correct. And so for me, I didn't want to show my quarterback up. I didn't want to show him that, dude, you missed the throw. I'm yelling at you. I'm having all these emotional, facial expressions. I didn't want that because the moment I drop a ball and I learned this from Down on Driver in an interview he did,

post game. Reporter came up to him. It's like, Donald, what happened? He had dropped a couple balls. He was like, that's not my first drop of my career. And if I continue to play, it won't be my last drop. Period. And when he said that, I immediately took that, like, you know what?

That's 100% correct. He killed the story. He killed the story, but he understood that I'm going to make mistakes just like everybody else in here is going to make mistakes. It's how I bounce back from that mistake. It's how I show resolving that. And for me as a Y receiver, I never wanted to put the spotlight on me any more than I knew that it already was going to be. But you are rare.

Yeah. You know who was very good at that? Andre Johnson. Oh, come on. Andre Johnson. By the way, it's funny. I've always said this before. I'm very reluctant to give receivers money.

But all the receivers I would give money to, Calvin Johnson, Larry Fitzgerald, Andre Johnson, Julio Jones. I don't get the ego. Yeah. I've always been like, Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham, Ocho, T.O. It's not about their talent. Is when you pay somebody a fortune, it doesn't matter if it's a lawyer, a doctor, an athlete, a writer. You're paying the personality, not just the position. Agreed.

You've got to be very careful on who you back up the Brinks truck to. I would have paid you a fortune. Would you still pay me a fortune? Now you're slow and old. I wouldn't give you a nickel. I would give you a nickel now. What are the wise guys wear? I get asked that from time to time.

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