The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 01/14/2019
Episode Date: January 14, 2019Colin thinks that the Patriots will never be more vulnerable than they are right now so the Chiefs better take advantage. He says Cowboys fans should get used to seasons ending like this because thi...s is basically the ceiling for Dallas with Dak Prescott and Jason Garrett. Plus, 4x Super Bowl Champion Terry Bradshaw comes in studio to talk about all four NFL divisional round playoff games. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Good morning. What a weekend?
What? I've never gone eight and no in the first eight playoff games ever.
Oh, my, I'm like a wizard.
I just want everybody, we're going to start with this. I want everybody to remember this.
New England has 12 draft picks this year, six in the first three rounds. They're going to reload.
This is the year to beat New England. This is the year.
I watched Tom Brady this weekend.
He didn't look that old.
Whatever he's using, hemp pajamas, kale pajamas,
whatever he's using, it's working.
I want you to think about this.
This is the year to beat New England.
You better do it now because they're stocking up with 12 draft picks.
They'll move off Gronk.
They'll get some salary cap space.
Think about this.
This year, for the first time in like 10,
had to rebuild the O line.
This year, for the first time in a decade,
Gronks is a shallow.
themselves. New England all year long did a lot of non-New England things. First of all, they were
terrible on the road. Do you know the Patriots were sub-500 on the road, three and five? That's not
New England. New England had controversy for several months coming into the season. That's not the
Patriot way. Every year they have a stinker in September. This year they had three horrible losses,
all the horrible teams, Detroit, the Jags, Tennessee.
That's not the Patriot way.
Situationally, they melted down in Miami.
I don't remember that happening once in 18 years.
This is the year they were rattled and out of sorts.
But it doesn't end there.
Their left tackle, signed with the Giants,
most important position to protect your veteran quarterback.
So they drafted an offensive lineman to play left tackle.
He got hurt.
So they had to go to San Francisco.
They have a right tackle playing left tackle.
It doesn't end there.
They were so desperate this season.
And New England's never desperate.
They went and signed the poster child in the NFL for wasted talent, Josh Gordon.
When's New England ever been desperate?
They were this year.
It doesn't end there.
Cordor L Patterson, two times this year, led them in rushing yards as a running back.
A wide receiver who'd never played running back became their best running back.
New England has been controversial, bad on the road, can't figure out the left tackle, key injuries, losing to bad teams, situationally melting down.
Wide receivers are running backs.
Running backs are wide receivers.
If New England goes to Kansas City and wins this weekend, AFC wave the white flag.
I mean, this is the most vulnerable they're ever going to be.
because Tom Brady, I watched that game.
Did he look old?
That's as good as I've ever seen him play.
I mean, I can't remember a game he was that efficient against that kind of personnel.
I mean, Kansas City this week, at home, veteran head coach, mostly healthy, great head coach, extra day to prepare.
I mean, New England can't possibly 35 to 7 at half over the chargers play close to that, right?
Kansas City even got a break.
New England played perfect.
You can't play perfect in the NFL in back-to-back weeks.
New England's got 12 draft picks.
12 of them.
So they're going to be really good next year.
And they're going to be favored again.
And the Jets and Bill still have young quarterbacks.
And Miami doesn't have a coach.
The one thing New England has is a quarterback who plays to this day,
despite being the goat, with a chip on his shoulder.
The second that game was over, here was Tom Brady.
We played him earlier this year.
I know, you know, everyone thinks we suck and, you know, can't win any games.
So we'll see.
It'll be fun.
This is the most non-New England year ever.
Controversy, bad on the road, losing multiple times to bad teams.
Gronks a shell of himself.
I mean, controversy.
I mean, this doesn't look like New England.
This is not who they are.
Public stories, coach, quarterback, don't get along.
And yet, a rookie running back mulled the Chargers Front 7.
Here's some Sony Michelle.
Coming out of a charger timeout.
Michelle, Michelle driving.
Give him touchdown number three.
You're going to see him
And Devon 46 goes in there and you go behind those two
And look at they just push them
I mean it's just like
They're out physicallyling
Yes they're just pushing every
Every battle
Hitting harder
I'm stronger I'm going at you
Try and stop us
You saw the Chargers beat Kansas City
In Kansas City last time they played
How did the Chargers match up with New England
I mean
I don't remember a New England
Year that was more off brand
Where they were more vulnerable
Kansas City, you don't beat them this weekend.
Nine degrees at home, MVP, healthy,
you're not beating them for a while.
Because this one is set up.
The other break, in the NFL,
you never play the same way back-to-back weeks.
New England's not going to play that well.
New England can't be perfect.
Not even New England's perfect back-to-back weekends.
They were perfect.
That won't happen again.
Man, cross your fingers in Kansas City.
You better be all.
all in on this puppy because this is the unpatriot Patriot season, and here they come.
All right, let's shift gears.
Rams beat the Cowboys.
And I think what you saw Saturday night is what you're going to see a lot of for the next seven to eight years.
This is what you're going to see next seven to eight years from Dallas.
They're going to be good enough to win a division.
They're going to be good enough to win playoff games.
But they'll hit a ceiling because,
Jason Garrett and Dak are good, solid, but they're not special.
And to get to next weekend in the NFL, that's for special people.
For the record, here's the remaining coaches.
Belichick, Andy Reed, Sean Payton, Sean McVeigh.
Many people believe those are the four best coaches in the NFL.
Belichick, Reed, and Peyton will be Hall of Famers.
I suspect Sean McVeigh will be too.
Who are the four remaining quarterbacks in the NFL playoffs?
Tom Brady is the best that's ever played.
Drew Breeze that holds every record that Tom Brady doesn't.
Patrick Mahomes is the MVP.
And Jared Goff is a number one pick.
And a great, great thrower of the football.
Special people.
This round of the playoffs is for special people.
Now, now I said it Friday,
DAC is Alex Smith.
Mobile, great leadership qualities,
solid dude,
can win you games, but Alex had trouble winning that game.
Saturday night, Dallas was out-coached by a special coach and out-quarterbacked by a more
special quarterback.
And Dallas was out-schemed and didn't have much of a running game, so what did they need?
The same thing we asked of Alex Smith several times, hey dude, can't run the ball.
We need you to carry us to a win here on the road.
We need you now to carry us.
and Dak didn't because that's not who Dak is.
There is a way for Dak to win.
At home, running game.
You have to remember, Aaron Rogers is coming back next year.
Carson Wentz is coming back next year.
San Francisco Kyle Shanahan, that's a special coach.
He gets his quarterback.
The NFC, when you start looking at the last several years,
has been about special people.
Russell Wilson, Drew Breeze, McVeigh, Aaron Rogers,
Khalil Mack, Kyle Shanahan.
Sean Payton, Cam, Aaron Donald, Fletcher Cox, Carson Wentz, Doug Peterson.
There's a lot of special in there.
That's who ends up playing in the end in the NFC.
A lot of special, special coaches, special players, special quarterbacks.
Jason Garrett and Dak are very good and very solid, but they're not special.
And Saturday night is exactly what Dallas is going to face for the next seven to eight years.
They weren't embarrassed.
They're not going to get embarrassed.
And in the last two weeks, I've only missed on one game against the spread.
This was it.
I thought Dallas would lose very, very close.
They weren't embarrassed.
They got pushed around, but they weren't embarrassed.
They shouldn't be.
Jason Garrett's a good, solid coach, and Dax's a good solid quarterback.
But it's all about expectations.
If you're bothered by Saturday, then you need to lower expectations.
Because the NFC lays it out for you.
It is the conference of special.
Rogers, McVeigh, Breeze, Sean Payton, Aaron Donald, Fletcher Cox.
These are, these are special people.
And good is just not good enough.
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The idea of what the Saints are, the idea is not the reality.
This is a grind team.
You think of the Saints in the Superdome and you think fast track, 400 yards passing,
Drew Brees, down the field.
That's not what the Saints are.
They had an 11-minute drive because that's what they needed to have.
They needed a fake punt in their own territory.
Tassum Hill, who was a quarterback at BYU.
They needed a dropped interception by the Eagles.
Philadelphia was without Fletcher Cox for a big chunk of the game.
he's in a remarkable player.
He's next to Aaron Donald, best defensive linemen in the National Football League.
You know, I mean, it's like New Orleans is a grind team.
They are not spectacular.
They have no tight end presence.
Their second best wide receivers are running back.
Ted Gin, please.
They've got no deep threat.
The idea of what the Saints are is not what the Saints are.
They are a very, very beatable team.
And I've always been a fan of people, teams, families that overcome stuff.
tip of the cap to Philadelphia.
How in the hell was Philadelphia driving for the win in that game?
Philadelphia is using a backup quarterback.
They're on the road for the fifth time in six weeks.
Their defensive linemen all took turns getting hurt,
and they lost their second best offensive lineman during the game.
They're on a four-string running back and using recycled soda cans in the secondary,
and it took amazing Drew Brees' feats, third and 16, third and 13, to escape with a win.
I mean, Philadelphia, that coaching staff give them all raises.
They had no business being in that game.
They had no business taking a lead.
They had no business being the team that came out with energy.
I mean, for the first hour of that game, they had the Saints on the ropes.
If the Saints don't get that first down on that fake kick, I'm not sure.
That game's not over.
Because, I mean, New Orleans needed everything.
Fake kick, drop pick by the Eagles, multiple.
injuries to win that game and Philly was driving.
Philly was driving to win that football game.
It's nothing against New Orleans.
I was blown away by Philadelphia.
I was as, I'm not joking when I say this.
Last year, everybody fell in love with Nick Foles, but they were playing home games.
You know, I mean, it was like they were healthy, they were a really good football.
They're all beat up.
I mean, they got secondary guys I've never heard of.
I watch every NFL game.
They got guys in the secondary I've never heard of.
They're a four string running back.
You know how hard it is to win on the road five times in six weeks?
You saw the Chargers on back-to-back roadies?
The Chargers, a great roster on back-to-back road trips, did not show up.
They were out four minutes into the game, it was over.
For Philadelphia to be in that game to the end with a backup,
and I mean, that was, I'm blown away by Philadelphia.
So don't sell your stock on the Eagles.
I mean, because they're going to be Carson Wentz's back.
They're going to be significantly healthier.
They've shown an ability to acquire free aid.
at a high level and draft at a high level.
I've said their owner, their GM, their coach, and their quarterback are all A.
They're all A talents.
So when you're an A going into the season every year, owner, GM coach, and quarterback,
you're not going anywhere.
If you told me today there's a team that's going to dominate the NFC East and I had to pick one,
I'd pick Philadelphia.
That was character.
I mean, that was impressive.
I know how it works.
If you win a game, you're a genius, and if you lose a game, you're a bum.
That's the way it works in sports.
blown away by Philadelphia yesterday.
Blown away.
I mean, I took him in the point.
I thought the Saints would win,
and I thought, you know, Philly will keep it close.
The first two rounds of that fight,
Saints were almost on the canvas in the Superdome.
All the other teams that got rest dominated.
KC. Off a Buy, great.
Belichick off a buy, great.
Rams off a by, great.
Saints off a by almost got knocked out in the second round.
I mean, a fake punt is literally saved them.
BYU quarterback basically saved them.
They needed Drew Breeze to do these, you know, as I say, Drew Breeze,
one of the eight best quarterbacks I've ever seen.
He had to do third and 13 and third and 16, and Drew's Drew.
I mean, he just can't draw up stuff he does.
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and one of the guys that helped build this company, Terry Bradshaw.
Look at you.
Thank you so much.
Sports coat.
Good morning.
Look at you.
You took a seriously.
Look at you.
No.
You got a big meeting with like big people later.
Not at all.
Look, I had a T-shirt on.
I like your professionalism.
And they came and said, you got to wear a coat.
I said, stars don't have to wear a coat.
they said you're not a star
well I just want to start with a
let's just start
I'll start with the dynasty
New England Terry
I know age matters
I get it I get all that
even though Tom Brady wears
you know kale pajamas I get it
that's about as sharp
Terry as I've seen Tom look
and maybe because of the rest
when you get older maybe the two weeks matter
but Lordy
that's as good as I've seen
Tom look, right?
It was impressive.
It was awfully impressive.
It wasn't the four-touchdown, you know, 400-yard game,
but he still had one touchdown in over 300 yards,
and it was just from the very beginning of the game,
he was just sharp right off the bat.
The touchdown passed in the corner, second quarter,
was just a beautiful throw.
And they, it seems like, I know America's tired of them.
Yeah.
I mean, I know when I played in the seven,
these people hated, they got tired, they get tired of you.
I get that.
But we have to respect and you have to applaud the job they do.
And the fact that this time of year, they're relevant.
When you think they're not, they are.
And now they go to Kansas City.
And I just ran into a guy in the elevator, big Chiefs fan.
And he says, well, we got them where we want them.
I said, oh, really?
You think you do?
Yeah.
Well, I mean, Belichick has a history of making,
life a little uncomfortable for young quarterbacks.
And Mahomes is still a puppy.
Now, he's great, but he's still a young guy.
You know what? They have 12 draft picks New England does this year.
So they're going to reload a little bit.
They're going to be fine.
I will say this, though.
As you age, you can still be great.
Kobe had 60 points in this last game, but it takes a little longer.
Like I thought, you know, I said this before the game.
New England's a team.
Brady's a player.
Buy weeks are good for him.
I don't know if you can, can you duplicate that now in a shorter week?
the let me just let me just disagree just a little bit because excuse me i i think as a quarterback
speaking only as a quarterback when you've played for such a long time you are so comfortable
okay yeah very there's very little you haven't seen um and seen a lot and so when you get into games
such as yesterdays against the chargers um tom's just comfortable he's comfortable he's
comfortable. He never has been a great athlete.
But he is smart. He's comfortable. And all of those years have experienced, there's no need
for age to be a problem. He never has had a cannon of an arm, but he has a very good arm.
And he's kind of a shoulder thrower, you know, and so you can just keep slinging it.
I disagree. There's guys like maybe Cam Newton who run a lot or physically going to get beat up,
guys that do scramble a lot,
the kid down in Houston,
they're going to get beat up.
You're going to get beat up.
Michael Vick got beat up running.
That's what slows you down.
As long as you have your legs,
you're fine as a quarterback.
And they always protect you.
They give you a pocket.
Yeah, that's what Marino lost.
Marino lost the legs, not the arm.
Right.
I have a friend Drew Bledso.
Drew's like, I can still throw it.
Yes.
But my legs are gone.
Yes, yes.
You have to stay.
in shape. I'm probably
at 70, stronger
than I was at 40, easily
because I work out so
hard with my legs.
I've never done that before.
Back in when I play, we didn't lift.
We didn't do anything. But now
I'm stronger in my legs so that when I go
walking the volcanoes and Hawaii and everything,
my lungs might get to my legs.
My legs don't get tired. So I work out
with my legs. So your legs
can be the first thing to go for sure.
That arm is always there.
I don't see a passer losing his strength in his arm from the day he starts playing unless he gets hurt.
And by the way, Tom has always been a very good cold weather thrower.
A, because he's played at Michigan, he played here, and he also, his torque.
So Tom going to Kansas City in bad weather is no advantage for anybody other than Tom's been in that kind of crappy weather his whole career.
And the crowds.
Have you ever figured out, I wish some psychologist would come on this show one day and say,
why are we better at home than we are on the road?
It's got to be what?
Psychological.
It has to be.
They don't make a tackle.
Those crowds don't make a tackle.
They boo you.
They don't like you.
But if you're prepared and ready to play and you're of sound mind, you should play well.
So you ever figured it out?
Well, I think some of it's harder to audible on the road.
By the way, if you travel in back-to-back weeks historically, you're a little worn out physically.
That's what happened with the charges, too, going.
East Coast, West Coast, East Coast, East Coast.
I most wish that probably if they'd have stayed on the East Coast, maybe go down to Florida
or something, instead of going all the way back across the country.
Because we've got trade wins right now over 100 miles an hour.
That wasn't a short flight coming back from Baltimore.
You're smart.
You think of everything.
You even think of the trade wins.
I've never had a guy in the show think of the trade wins.
Well, thank you.
I've never had smart applied to me, but I do appreciate it.
So let's go.
So we talk New England.
Let's go into the team.
play because I'm going to hold you over and have you do NFC stuff.
Yeah.
I didn't, listen, luck, and this is no excuse,
Mahomes was the better of the two.
Andrew looked off.
He's a dome quarterback.
I like Kansas City to win the game anyway.
I thought his ball floated.
I just thought Andrew didn't look tight.
I just thought he was off.
When the game started, the very first pass, remember the very first pass?
It was like six yards and it hit the ground.
And I turned to Jimmy and I said,
he must be having trouble controlling the football.
Must be slippery or his hands are frozen on top.
So you don't have the elasticity in the top of your hands.
Sure.
And he didn't have gloves on like a lot of these guys.
Philip Rivers wore gloves yesterday.
Tom had one on his left.
Did Tom have a right glove on?
I can't remember.
I don't think he did.
Okay.
But I said, wow, what's with that pass?
It was not, his first half was not luck like.
No, at all.
Chris Sims on the pre-game.
show. Give Chris Sims, Phil's son. He said in the pregame show, he goes,
Mahomes looks, he goes, I just want to add this. Mahomes looks way more comfortable in pregame
than luck does. Now again, that's not an excuse. I thought Andrew, that's as bad as I've seen
in play. Right. He did start playing well, but what also happened, he didn't, they didn't
protect him as well as they had been all year long. And Kansas City, someone's just slapped me
crazy right now, but where did that defense come from? Well, Chris Jones up front.
is an emerging player.
We know D. Ford can play, but Terry, this Chris Jones kid,
yeah, he's real.
He's a real player.
Yeah, but that was not a great defense all year long by Kansas City.
And all of a sudden, they were a dominant defense against the Colts,
which was very surprising.
I know they're at home, I know they got into the crowd,
and I know the weather was bad.
Once again, though, you got to step up.
I was somewhat, well, I wasn't somewhat.
I was extremely surprised by how great their defense played.
Yeah, no, no, I pushed.
the Colts around. All right, let's go to the cowboy game.
You know, I said this Friday.
Only time I ever get angry is when my expectations are higher than reality.
I think DAC is Alex Smith.
I think you go in a division. You go in playoff games.
Hell of a guy saw.
Wow. That's.
Alex Smith has eight straight winning seasons, three pro bowls and five division titles.
When I say DAC is Alex Smith, people go, whoa.
If I told you Cowboy fans, you're going to win eight straight winning.
It's only a third year.
I mean, I'm just surprised that you're.
Because Alex is, you know, I'm pretty much done now.
But Alex had a heck of a career.
Didn't have your career, but a heck of a career.
And I watched Dallas and I thought this is how seasons are going to end.
Well, I wouldn't want to.
I mean, it's your job to get up here and have strong opinions.
And I respect it.
Don't get upset with it if I disagree.
There's a part of me that I've always said,
he still reminds me that he's in Mississippi State.
I see a
I see a
there's a part of me that
I see that a guy
zones in and
he misses too many guys wide open
he does wide open
and I and if they had gotten past
the Rams the one thing I was
going to say but we don't have that much time
with 12 people on the show
was that with is that
one thing that really
I'd be concerned about is
he has to work on when you come up from pressure
Don't miss those.
When you got guys wide open, get them the ball.
Don't have to be a touchdown.
Just get them the ball.
But I like, he's won me over.
He really has.
I agree.
I agree.
But he's not a special arm talent.
Terry, look who's left in the playoffs.
No.
Belichick, Reed, Mahomes, Brady.
Top four scoring offenses in the league.
And the top four.
His arm is every bit as good as Brady's.
His arm's every bit as good as Breezes.
My arm's, yeah.
I did notice the other night
the balls to the sideline
then have the zip that I
was hoping that he would have on him, but they were
beautifully thrown balls.
But he has a very adequate
above average arm, I would say.
He doesn't have. Whose arm doesn't he have?
Mahomes is probably the only one in the playoffs
that he can't lock up with.
So do you think, DAC, the way they lost,
I mean, I didn't put it on DAC. I thought their defensive
line got thrown around the field. What do you think?
I mean, it's incredible.
What?
What, 273 yards.
rushing by the Rams?
Two running backs.
Two running backs.
Had over 100 yards.
So I don't put this on deck.
When I look at Dak, I don't see a special player.
I see a good solid.
I like him as a person.
Rock solid, mobile, good dude.
When he put his hand on his heart during the anthem,
he doesn't have to be popular or liked.
He'll do the unpopular thing in a room.
There's a lot I love about it.
Okay.
I would say that he gallop a young receiver.
They picked up.
know what, second and third round last year.
I think he's got to elevate.
Brought Cooper over.
I thought Cooper was great in two or three games and disappear.
And then everybody said, ha, ha, ha, but he opened it up for everybody else.
And I'd always say, look, you know, I don't believe in that.
Look what the Saints and Thomas did.
He breaks a record.
He catches 125 balls.
You would think that when the Eagles played him, you would say, well, the one guy we've got to take away.
we got to take away.
Camara will handle, but we got to take away.
Thomas, what did he catch yesterday?
13 balls?
Yeah.
200-something yards.
Yeah.
Okay, that's, to me, is Omari Cooper.
That's what he has to be for the cowboys.
10-12 catch guys.
And I don't think, and here's the thing I like about Thomas and the Saints is the fact
that they run a route that you don't see that off them in the league anymore.
And it's called an in-rout, a deep-in-rout, an 8-10.
18 yard to 20-yard in route.
In Pittsburgh, we would call that a dig, a shallow short route, about 12 yards.
And on top of that, there is a tremendous hole in defenses.
But people, it's a little too long, maybe a little, you don't trust your line that long.
But boy, the Saints run it, and that guy made three huge catches on the deep end.
Let's talk about.
But I do like Prescott.
I'm trying to say is just put better talent around him.
He's good.
He doesn't panic.
He's a poised kid.
he's strong.
All those.
I will say this, though.
The Cowboy O line is getting old.
It was two years ago the best offensive line in the league.
It's not anymore.
No, they're starting to get hurt.
Fitzpatrick has been out all year.
They're a great center.
Yes.
Will the nil and us hill?
Frederick, yep.
Zach Martin has been hit and miss.
Smith has been hurt at left tackle.
So I don't know.
I look at Dallas.
I just think the NFC's got so many special people.
Let's go to the Saints.
When I say Saints, you think, oh, my God,
that just throw the ball up the field. Terry, they had an 11-minute drive yesterday.
This Saints team, really, they grind.
Yeah.
It's a grinding team.
Drew Breeze of the four quarterbacks left has the weakest arm.
He's not throwing the ball down the field anymore.
It's funny.
You think of the Saints as this high-powered machine.
That's Kansas City.
I mean, Rams can do a lot of looks.
I look at, when I look at the Saints right now, coaching quarterback play,
they're 11-play drives.
Well, the Saints are meticulous.
all great offensive coaches are meticulous with detail.
McVeigh, Sean, Peyton,
and you read, meticulous.
They'll take a simple route and combinations,
and they'll run the same route,
eight, nine, ten different formations.
Same route, though,
because there's only so many routes you can run.
Right.
In, out, down, post, corner, come back.
That's it.
to masquerade it. Exactly. And all these guys are brilliant at what they do. And you don't have
to have a strong arm to throw 80-yard touchdown passes. You've got to have yack yards after the
catch. You got to have a guy break tackled. You hit a guy on 30 or 40 years. All these quarterbacks
can throw the ball 60 yards. Every one of them can. If I told you, Saints hosting Rams this
weekend, though. Yes. Who's got more good players? Who has more good players? More good players.
Rams Saints. I think the Rams are a better team. I think it's just hard to go to the Superdome and win.
And I don't think the Saints will struggle.
I mean, the Saints actually, they won the perfect way.
They didn't look very good for about an hour and a half.
I'm going to tell you, that's a good point you make.
Because I was on our pregame show yesterday, I was really torn.
I was really concerned.
I wanted to pick Philadelphia, okay, because of Chris Long.
And I just, and I love that quarterback at Philadelphia.
I do love that kid.
Yeah.
He is special.
Gamer.
Yeah, man.
But I'm from Louisiana.
I've been a Saints fan my whole life.
I can't possibly pick.
But I never pick them because I don't want to jinx them if you believe in that stuff.
But the thing that bothered me was the last four games of the season.
They had not looked good.
And I said on the air, you can't put a key in the car and turn it on.
And when you're running, run, and away we go, Jack.
You can't do that.
And on the commercial break up to a highway, you put a key and you turn it on.
but with the Saints Lately, you had to pull the choke out.
There are a lot of dink and dunk.
Hey, I know.
And then people have put pressure on Drew up the middle, and he is, listen, he's human.
He's panicked.
He's not been comfortable.
And in the first half yesterday, first pass, oh, oh, Lord, please.
Hey, I'm just, I was a nervous wreck.
The Saints are completely vulnerable this weekend.
Yes.
I think they are.
I mean, they are not what we prescribe generally with them,
which is you go down there and it's a shootout and it's their.
I mean, this Philadelphia team had been on the road five times in six weeks, Terry,
they were exhausted and they kept them in the 20s.
Yeah, you better be careful with the Rams need to play smart.
You can't have Keep to leave doing a stupid play like Keith.
No turnovers.
Listen, you cannot, you cannot play stupid.
You have to play smart.
Use the sideline.
Make it your friend.
Use the end zone.
The back line.
Make it your friend.
Don't push people out and the ball's in the air.
You get a penalty.
Get them first down.
You've got to play smart.
It will be hard to play down there.
And the last time they played, what was the score?
43, 40.
Oh, it's wild.
It's crazy.
Both the Rams and the Saints, September, October, are just, they're dropping.
Those days are over in the end.
I mean, you're going to tell me Kansas City, New England?
That game's going to be in the 20s.
And my guess is Rams Saints in the 20s.
Here's what happened.
The league started this year.
Remember those offenses?
I was on the edge of my seat.
I couldn't wait for the games to come on.
And boy, those offenses were just like, holy cow.
They broke more passing records after eight games I'd ever seen in my life.
And I'm like, guys threw 50 touchdown passes for Kansas City.
And there you're just locking it up 45 to 40.
And I'm like, holy cow, this is what the end.
And we all jumped on board.
You did, I did.
Everybody jumped on board.
What happened?
You peaked too soon, which is you just.
Let's go run, run, and then you slowly come back down.
Guys get hurt. Coordinators get film.
You figure teams out.
You're playing them a second time.
Yep.
And you got a lot out.
Here's what they did.
Let's put pressure here.
You got guys heard.
You got a corner out.
You got a linebacker out.
I mean, a whole bunch of things have happened.
Terry Bradshaw, 20 minutes to Terry Bradshaw.
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This is Clever Taylor the 4th.
And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show,
I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff,
like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me.
He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Time out.
Quarterback on office, Blue, 42.
A rep, my mama want you to wave at her.
What?
Where's he at?
Hey, Miss Parker.
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What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano, and our podcast Point Game is about defying the odds.
Like LeBron heading into the playoffs without Luca and Austin Reed.
And finding ways to win no matter what.
He's the smartest player to ever play the game.
His IQ is at a level that we've never seen before.
And he knows.
Without Luca and Austin Reeves, I got to manipulate the game.
We get a player's perspective on the challenges of the playoffs.
I think Joker's going to be exhausted this series
because when they don't have Rudy in the lineup,
he has to really guard guys like Nas Reid.
He has to guard Julius Randall.
And then he has to give us everything he gives us
on the night-to-night basis on offense.
And when IT's friends stop by, like Quentin Richardson,
we dive into some playoff history too.
Steve Nass would get that thing.
That man, hell get to fly.
of the court, licking his fingers why he got the
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through a training camp with that, Isaiah, you
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Get your ass up and down the court,
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Do it every Monday at this time.
We do it. I love doing it during the football season, but
we continue it all year. I make strong
predictions. That's what I do.
But I think it behoves me to
go on the air on Monday and say, listen, sometimes
I'm right and sometimes I'm really wrong.
Here we go.
Where Colin was right?
I've never had a year when the first eight playoff games,
I predicted all of them correctly.
In fact, I'm six one and one against the spread and eight and no straight up.
I also feel incredibly strongly about the games this weekend.
We'll talk about that later in the week.
Our strongest play was New England.
We told you we thought they'd play very, very well early and hold off the chargers.
So we've had an incredible year making picks in the NFL,
capped by a great playoff run.
Where Colin was wrong.
Andrew Luck was awful.
He looked out of sorts.
His feet didn't look right.
He had four or five balls tipped.
His ball floated.
You know, maybe it's the dome quarterback goes on the road
and is used to 72 degrees.
But his first three drives.
I mean, Andrew Luck was as bad as I've ever seen him
when I know he's healthy and I do know he's healthy.
Punt, punt, punt, three and out, three and out, three and out.
And I also think there is, you know, listen, Drew Breeze was really bad already in the game.
It's nothing wrong with being, you know, struggling in your first couple series on the road.
That's not it.
But I just, I never felt like Andrew Luck said, okay, I'm a franchise quarterback.
I'm going to take this puppy over.
I'm going to run a little bit.
I'm going to scramble a little bit.
I'm going to extend plays a little bit.
I just thought Andrew Luck played as bad as I've seen him play.
Where Colin was right.
Oh, Andy Reid can coach.
How many years have I been on this?
You think Andy Reid could coach a little?
Now he'll be in his sixth conference championship game.
By the way, he got to five conference championships games in Philadelphia with Donovan McNabb, Jeff Garcia.
You know, he did it in the AFC with, you know, he wins a bunch of playoffs.
He's in 25 playoff games.
He's essentially 500, and he's never had a great quarterback talent until now.
And by the way, can we get over this?
He's never won the big game.
You never sound dumber as a sports fan using he's never won the big game.
You don't think that was a big game?
Let me ask you.
You don't think New England this weekend's a big game.
That doesn't count in your world.
So if you're in Kansas City and you don't think it's a big game when or if the Chiefs lose, you won't be mad.
Because, you know, it's not a big game or anything.
They're all big games.
You don't think the regular season games matter?
You don't think beating the Chargers matter?
You don't think that was a big game.
Andy Reid, we put way too much emphasis on winning Super Bowls.
a great coach and I've been saying it for a decade.
Where Colin was wrong.
The Rams rebooted.
I said I loved them in September and October and I thought they were a bunch of hooey
in November and December.
And I said, very rarely in my life, do I remember a team stinking late in the year
and rebooting and then coming into the playoffs and being great.
I thought the Rams were great Saturday.
That is, what he did is hard to do in this league.
Now, I've seen teams have a bad first half, and then post- Thanksgiving, they play really, really well.
Rams were great early, awful for about six weeks, and in the end of the year, they really became a pound, ground, pound run football team.
And that's what they are now.
Make no mistake about it.
Between Gurley and C.J. Anderson, they're a running football team.
And the Rams against Dallas, they were as, that looked like a coaching mismatch.
They were as sharp against the front seven like Dallas as I think you can be.
Hats off to the boy genius.
Where Colin was right.
Top four scoring teams in the NFL are the four left.
The Bears model.
You went to Super Bowls with that.
The Ravens model.
Run around quarterback, play with defense.
You're not winning that way big time.
Listen, the rules now benefit offense.
That doesn't mean the scoring won't come down in the playoffs because the weather
lousy and players have more injuries.
Teams do. But, you know,
even the Saints had an 11-minute
drive from their offense to win the game.
You got to spend your money
now on offense. There's
nothing against Khalil Mack, but
in the end, wide receivers,
left tackles, quarterbacks,
running backs, tight ends.
The best four offenses
in the league are what's left
and no chance of a boring Super Bowl.
You're either going to get Mahomes, Brady,
Rams McVey, Gough, and Breeze Payton, so it's all good.
Where Colin was wrong.
I may have undersold the Patriots weapons a little.
I mean, good Lord.
Edelman 9 catches.
James White, 15 catches.
Sony, Michelle, three touchdowns on 129 yards.
Philip Dorset made a couple of great plays.
For the record, Gronk is now the best blocking tight-in in football.
He can't run anymore.
He is a tremendous blocker.
I've never seen, and I'm serious when I say this,
I've never seen New England's pieces play that well.
No fumbles, no, I mean, no drop balls against a defense that talented.
I didn't think it was possible to be that good offensively.
James White doesn't even carry the ball.
He's just a receiver out of the backfield.
I did not think that was possible against the Chargers defense.
I didn't think Philip Dorset, Edelman,
Gronk, a rookie running back, and James White could do that.
That was a jaw dropper, and I love New England this weekend.
But to move the ball up and down the field against that secondary and that pass rush?
What?
Didn't he make sense?
Where Colin was right?
I did sell my L.A. Charger stock at the perfect time.
Folks, teams are stocks to me.
I buy them and I sell them all the time.
and I said all year long.
I love this Chargers team.
And I picked him over Baltimore.
And I kept, and I told, I said it all year.
I said, this is a really good team.
I sold my stock this weekend.
You can't travel all the way to Baltimore being a physical game.
Travel all the way home.
Come all the way back and face Belichick, 12 and 1 in division play.
Come on.
This is a perfect team.
That's all teams are for me as a sportscaster.
They're stocks.
I'm not all in or all out.
anybody. I sold my ram stock. Now I'm buying some back. But the Chargers, I was on that team all
year. I liked them when nobody else did. I loved them when people started liking them. And I sold
my stock when everybody in the world had the Chargers this weekend. Where Colin was wrong.
I said I thought luck would outplay Mahomes, but I picked Kansas City to win. I thought Mahomes. Now,
Mahomes didn't have a touchdown pass and his quarterback ready was in the 80s, but I thought
Patrick Mahomes looked, and it surprised me, like the veteran quarterback. There was every
chance. I would have had no problem if Mahomes had the jitters, struggled in the first quarter,
and I didn't think he was great. He missed some open guys, but his demeanor, his leadership,
his calm against a, you know, pretty good pass rush. I thought Patrick Mahomes completely outplayed
Andrew Locke and deserves a lot of credit. It's very easy for all of us to say, hey, he's got all
these weapons in Andy Reed. But come on now. You're going up against Andrew Luck. That's your first
home playoff game.
You had a buy. Bys aren't great for
young players. Bys are great for veteran players.
I thought Mahomes completely
elevated himself above and beyond
Andrew Luck and I was wrong. So he's the MVP, right?
Yes, he is. And I said, whoever
wins is the MVP and deserves it.
Where Colin was right.
Lakers are 3 and 7 without LeBron.
Lost to the Cavs without
LeBron. The worst team in the league, by the way, is the
Cavs because they don't have LeBron
and the Lakers now can't beat the Cavs without LeBron.
Listen, Michael Jordan, say what you want.
Bill Russell say what you want.
Kareem say what you want.
We've never had a player as impactful as LeBron.
He comes to your team.
They're average.
They get really good.
He leaves your team.
You were good.
You get awful.
I mean, the Lakers are five years into a rebuild.
They have done a very good job in the front office in scouting and drafting.
They have not whiffed on anybody.
and they're now three and seven without LeBron,
losing to the worst team in the league.
And for the record,
Michael Jordan left the Bulls.
They won 55 games without him
and were a Hugh Holland's call for making the finals.
Impact, there had never been anybody close to LeBron James.
Where Colin was wrong.
Mike McCarthy at Green Bay can't get interviews?
I mean, you're giving jobs to quarterback coaches
and one-year play callers.
Mike McCarthy couldn't get an interview in Cleveland?
They're not getting interviews in Arizona?
I mean, the guy got to a Super Bowl.
He has six division titles.
There's eight openings.
My opinion of Mike McCarthy is apparently not aligned
with the owners and the general managers of the National Football League.
I mean, I'm looking around and I'm like,
Mike McCarthy, if you're an organization that's kind of like uneasy and chaotic,
and if you need somebody to stabilize,
I would bring in Mike McCarthy for a two-day interview,
and unless something went AWIR,
I think he'd be a great choice.
I mean, we got college coaches getting hired and that got fired,
and we got coordinators that were not really coordinators
and guys who have never been hired as coordinators,
and Mike McCarthy can't get a job interview?
That was wrong on that one.
I thought the Jets job was his.
He didn't even get an interview in Cleveland.
It's very bizarre.
I didn't get an interview.
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Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier.
This week, my guest, SNL's Mikey Day and head writer Streeter Seidel,
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And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff.
Like being an internet famous referee.
We're in the middle of a game.
This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her.
What?
Time out.
Look.
Quarterback on office blue with 42.
Hey, Brett.
My mama want you to weigh better.
What?
Where's she at?
Hey, Miss Parker.
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It's Isaiah Thomas.
And I'm C.J. Toledano.
It's our favorite time of the year on our podcast point game, the playoffs.
We're digging into the biggest surprises of the season.
And I'm looking back on some of my greatest playoff moments.
If we didn't talk ever again, I was hungry.
You just understood.
That's how personal it got.
Wow.
Then after that game seven, Marquis come in, he's like, you know, I love you, dog.
You know, it's all love.
This was just playoffs.
This was just basketball.
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