The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 05/17/2019
Episode Date: May 17, 2019Colin expresses his deepest concerns for the Cleveland Browns after Odell Beckham Jr and Baker Mayfield viciously attach Colin after yesterdays Top 10 most remembered Odell Beckham Moments, The Golden... State Warriors are one of the only teams inside the NBA that analytics don't matter too and slow the breaks on calling them a "better" team without Kevin Durant playing in the playoffs. Ben Roethlisberger has just entered Stage four of his NFL career locking completely into this upcoming season by inviting his teammates to his estate and Colin wanders into unfamiliar waters with a scorching earth Golf Take !!!Guest : Chris Broussard - FS1 Analyst and FOX Sports Radio Host Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I was a detacked yesterday on the internet.
I'll get to that in a couple of minutes.
Barely slept last night at all.
Restless night's sleep.
Painful, hurtful things said by people I like.
Let me start with the Warriors.
And I'm talking about all dynasties here,
but in particular, Golden State and the Patriots,
because they're the most recent.
When you're a dynasty, it gives you equity.
You can take bigger risks because you're the man, you're the team.
You can coach with honesty and integrity and courage.
You can go for it on fourth down in New England.
You can trade a pro bowl player if you think he's overpaid.
Winning, it's like money over time and interest.
It just compounds and compounds, and it gives you a different culture
and a different belief and confidence.
Golden State in this analytic tsunami, got to shoot threes,
the mid-range jumper is bad.
Threes, threes, only threes.
Did you notice how they won last night?
Did you see the shot chart?
Trailing in the game, they relied on twos.
Portland leading in the game, leading.
Just get buckets.
Took a lot of bad threes.
Portland had it.
Chose to lose it.
Golden State played with confidence situationally.
Make a couple big defensive plays.
Iggy.
Get the basket over the three if it's available.
It has been, by the way, a bad, bad postseason for the analytic nerds.
A lot of mid-range jumper teams are doing well.
Fourth quarter, Golden State, all but one shot was made from the paint.
Portland leading took 14 threes.
Yet Golden State trailing took only six.
And if you've noticed this year, they have moved in key situations, Golden State,
off the three occasionally.
Only eighth in the NBA
in the number of three shot.
That is with Steph Curry, the best shooter in the world.
That is with Kevin Durant, the best player in the world.
That is with Clay Thompson, the next best shooter in the world.
And they were 17th, actually, in the Mori ball stat.
Darry, Rockets GM, friend of the show, love him.
Houston's number one.
Threes, threes, threes, got to shoot threes.
We're chasing.
We're obsessed.
Three's, three.
The best shooter.
team in the league moved to 17th because the best shooting team in the league has the confidence
to just go get buckets, to not play to the crowd and the critics and the analytic mavens.
Last night's game, Portland had it and shot a bunch of bad threes.
Golden State trailed and relied heavily down the stretch on twos.
When you're chasing, when you're obsessed, when you're concerned and consumed
about the optics.
And Golden State's not.
New England's not.
They trade good players.
Well, they're overvalued.
They move the ball
forth down in their own territory.
We just like our chances here.
But what if you, who cares?
It's like interest.
What did Einstein say?
The most powerful force in the world
is compounding interest.
It's the same thing with sports.
The more you win, the more courage,
the more honesty, the more integrity
you can coach with.
And don't kid yourself.
There are coaches,
up there. There are GMs out there.
There are owners out there. There are
players out there petrified of
what people might say about them if they lose.
Believe me, I got attacked by two
yesterday. There was a moment in the game
that was interesting. Golden State led 1-12,
111 had the ball. Steph's hands.
Three-pointer ends it. And they
didn't take it. They came
down and got the best shot from Draymond
1-11. 111.
Now a three-ball
and the best three-ball shooter in the world
had it. Would have ended the game.
but they still went and took the best shot.
And by the way, what's remarkable is Golden State shot 60% on threes in the third quarter.
They could have easily convinced themselves, just keep chucking, just keep shooting.
No, no, no.
They were like, no, now let's take the best shots available.
Dynasties aren't obsessed.
They're not consumed.
They're not chasing.
New England and Golden State are both brilliant situationally.
because they're not playing to anybody other than the truth,
integrity of the shot, integrity of the play.
They're not worried about the critics.
Last night was a clinic in how dynasties win games they're outplayed in,
how dynasties win a game they had no business winning.
I mean, you saw it in the Super Bowl.
New England, Rams tied early.
Did you ever think the Rams were going to be better late than New England?
No.
And last night I'm watching that game and I'm thinking, God, Golden State's just taking smart shots inside.
When the rim's available, go get it.
Don't be worried about playing to the analytic tsunami.
Don't be worried about if you lose, what will they say?
No pressure, not tight, total confidence.
That's what dynasties look like late in games.
And these dynasties, don't kid yourself, Michael Jordan.
They didn't sweep teams in the finals.
They didn't sweep teams in the Eastern Conference finals.
Michael Jordan's Bulls went to a lot of game sixes.
Go ask Utah.
Go ask Phoenix.
Go ask Seattle.
They went to a lot of game sixes.
They won a lot of close games in those playoffs.
Just like Golden State won last night.
Just a piece of art, is what that was.
Three minutes, four minutes in the game, that was art basketball.
Good shots, smart shots.
Hit them.
Make a play defensively, situationally coaching.
Great, great, great, great, great.
Let's shift to this.
this was not great.
It almost ruined my night.
So yesterday, a story came out.
And a story came out basically that Cleveland, their coach, Freddie Kitchens,
was clearly not happy, but said Odell Beckham has left town.
We want to get his mind right before he's at practice.
He came for one OTA practice and left.
Now, this bothers me for a lot of reasons.
Number one, Baker Mayfield's in his second year.
Odell doesn't know the players, the coach.
the playbook, the formations, doesn't know anything.
Receiver quarterback, especially receiver young quarterback, get this thing tight.
Come on, let's go.
I wouldn't care if it was a tight end, running back a corner, a safety.
Star receiver, second year quarterback, let's get the timing down.
I mean, Tom Brady spends his off seasons with Edelman, and they already have timing.
So I said, we got more drama.
We have a coach having to talk about OBJ.
I said, is it me or is OBJ gone from surgery?
circus catch to now just more circus.
So I put up his 10 most memorable moments in his career.
Not his 10 best plays.
I didn't call it that.
Not his 10 greatest catches.
His 10 most memorable moments in his career.
Because my point was, once you start looking at him, the catch, the boat, fight with
net, meltdown in tunnel, Paris hotel room, fight with Norman, peeing in the end zone.
My point was, once you start looking at his 10 biggest moments, it's a lot of non-football
nonsense. There's the catch. And that's just a bunch of Paris hotel room fighting with a net,
peeing in the end zone. I'm like, we've gone from circus catch to circus act. I didn't say
this was the 10 best plays. And my point was, I thought, a very fair one, which it was very fair.
And OBJ is a public figure. You've got to deal with some criticism. Well, OBJ went apoplectic.
He attacked me viciously on Twitter. I'm not going to go through all these. I'll put it up for our
FS1 listener, it just was like hours of just four separate tweets and reactions.
By the way, Baker Mayfield came after me.
Didn't love that because I thought we were just getting tight.
And so Baker attacked me and O'Dell Beckham attacked me.
And of course, this proves one thing.
That's right.
We're no TAs.
It's already dysfunctional.
Let's retrace the steps here with me and OBJ.
I always supported O'Dell Beckham Jr. in New York.
I said, listen, he's young, he's dynamic, Eli's a shot fighter.
He needs to move.
This is not working.
And I said that.
I said, I don't like all of his nonsense, but this kid's great.
This kid's an all-timer.
Eli's a shot fighter.
He's doing some nice things.
You got to put this kid with a legit top 10 quarterback.
And then I also sat on the air before he left New York.
I said, I think he's going to get traded despite what the giant said.
And I said, you know, this kid was not.
dysfunctional at LSU and he was not dysfunctional his first year in New York. He's gotten kind of chaotic as
the giants have become chaotic and I sat on the air I said let's be honest about this. Maybe he's just
a young kid that doesn't work well in chaos. I can I know personally I don't either. I'm a child of
divorce. I like less conflict, steady management, quiet in the house and he reached out to me.
And he said you kind of nailed it on that. And it was a really neat 30 minute conversation.
I was up in Utah hanging out skiing and we really connected. And I said,
said, hey, he told me some things I still won't relay to you about where he wanted to play,
whatever. Then he signs with Cleveland. I sent him a congrats kick butt. Because, you know,
I knew it wasn't exactly where he wanted to go, but it was a good start. Baker Mayfield's very
accurate as a thrower. Obj runs the best slant pattern in the league. I'm like, good. You'll get
stats. At least he's playing now with a young quarterback moving into his prime. It's a good
feeling for him. And then yesterday, the story about he's been in Cleveland three days of the
65. He came for one left. Coach said, I'd like him to be here. I've never said that, but he's
got to get his mind right. And it's been 65 days since the trade, and he doesn't have his mind
right. And then the reaction, and it's sort of proven my point, which is, are you a circus catch?
Are you just a circus? Because now you got the quarterback. Now you got the players around you,
because Cleveland's got players. Now, are they a great team? I don't know. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't
or no, but they got players.
They got players everywhere.
They got two good running backs, and at mid-season,
a third. Their offensive line was top
three in the league, according to pro football focus.
They got now O'Dell and Jarvis Landry,
best young tied-in in football,
good pass rusher, Denzel wards,
an elite corner. They got all sorts of players.
But my concern was
this.
Tweets, Instagram,
net, circus, thin skin,
overreacting.
I do not regret in any
weigh my 10 most memorable moments because my point was,
what is OBJ now?
Is either circus catch or is it just now a circus?
You can't be in Cleveland three days of 65.
You got to get there.
You got a great young second year quarterback.
You got a new coach.
You got a new playbook.
You got new teammates.
You got new players.
You got new offense.
You got to get there.
You got be in town.
You got to get your mind right.
I don't want to hear about 65 days.
65 days? That's enough time to get your mind right.
And by the way, Tom Brady, he's vacationing with Julian Edelman.
He's working on that stuff nine years into the relationship.
You've got to get this thing down.
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So good to have you in there.
I have not heard from OBJ and Baker Mayfield.
still waiting for an apology.
I have come to terms with I will accept the apology at any time it is given.
Hopefully over the weekend I can sleep better.
So Seth Curry, brother of Steph Curry, feels the Warriors are, quote,
harder to guard without Kevin Durant.
Quote, I think they're harder to guard.
They move around faster when he's not out there.
They're definitely not a better team.
The word better is interesting because that's what everybody's freaking out about.
Whoa, Katie's gone.
They're not better.
Whoa.
LeBron's better than MJ.
Whoa, whoa.
LeBron is better than MJ at a lot of things.
He's a better passer.
He's a better rebounder.
He's a bigger, stronger athlete.
He shot a three ball better.
There's a lot of things LeBron is better than MJ.
Six for six.
Whoa, better.
Whoa, we're freaking out with better.
Well, Steph is better without Katie in the floor, statistically.
Draymond is better without Steph on the floor.
Carson Wentz is better than Nick Foles.
But here's what happens.
When Nick Foles is not as big, not as strong, not as athletic.
but Alshan Jeffrey is better with Nick Foles.
The offense is more balanced.
It's a little less ad-libbed.
They follow the coaching.
But Carson Wentz is better than Nick Foles.
But there are things Nick Foles does better than Carson Wence,
good enough to win a Super Bowl.
Okay, one thing is clear watching this.
Golden State's not falling off a cliff.
Sorry, Charles Barkley, when Katie leaves.
They may not win titles,
but they've got a great coach, a great GM,
a great owner, a great culture, a great system, a great new arena, the best back court ever,
the greatest shooter ever, the best ball handler in the league, Steph Curry could be the best leader
in the league, the energizer buddy in Draymond Green, the best Robin to Batman in the league in Clay Thompson.
It may not be better, but it's not falling off a cliff.
They're going to be fine.
Okay, look at Katie like this.
Katie is the he's the five-star chef, the Zaggette chef, the James Beard Award winning chef.
And when he's in the kitchen, Gordon Ramsey, he dominates the kitchen.
He dominates the kitchen.
The meals always spectacular.
The critics love it.
It's unbelievable.
And then he leaves.
And by the way, the meal's still really, really good.
Is it better?
Let's get away from the word better.
The kitchen's more fun.
Everybody's part of it.
It's a collective.
They're happier.
It moves better.
Everybody feels a little less rigid.
And is the meal better?
Probably not.
But it's still really, really good.
And there are things that work better when Gordon Ramsey leaves the kitchen,
although you won't get the five stars, Zaget, redded, perfect plate.
But the kitchen's still good.
The meal's still good.
The kitchen's more fun, lively, and communal.
That's okay.
That's the reality with superstars.
They hog up all the oxygen in the room.
That's just why Shaq yells at Charles Barkley on TNT,
because when Charles is on a set, he steals all the oxygen because he's a superstar on television.
and KD steals some of the oxygen.
But the meal's not better.
We'll go back to that word everybody's freaking out about,
but it's different and it's darn good without him.
But over the course of a year, you want Gordon Hayward in the kitchen.
He's going to make a series of decisions on the menu,
night-to-night decisions that will keep you five-star.
And you'll probably slip to four-star, four-and-a-half-star without it.
But you can still go there and have a great meal.
And on nights, you walk into that kitchen,
you're like, man, it's fun and lively in here.
It is just everybody's having a good time in here, not as tense.
Because once you have KD, it gets a little tense because, oh, now you got to win.
Because when you got the five-star chef, you got to have great meals.
Can't have a bad meal, a bad set, a bad night, a bad menu.
And when you got KD, you have to win the championship.
You have to.
Now Golden State, kind of surprised how well they're playing.
It loosens up the room a little bit.
But we're freaking out about better.
is better than Michael Jordan in a lot of things.
There are things Nick Foles did better than Carson Wentz.
Ask Alshan Jeffrey.
And yes, the Warriors, Steph and Draymond are better.
The passing's better.
The cutting's better.
The fluidity's better.
Can't deny any of that.
Nick Wright was talking about that on first things first this morning,
and he doesn't even like Golden State.
Even if the Warriors aren't better without him,
Steph and Draymond are.
When KD's not there,
Both of those guys have to play at such a high level.
Draymond was so much energy and step with so much potency
that those guys, they step up their game enough
that it at least almost accounts for not having KD out there.
He's right.
And for the record, I think we're all thinking the same thing talking about this.
KD's out of there.
I still don't think he's out of there necessarily.
Now, I think he will leave.
I've had a current NBA player tell me he's 100% gone.
I've had a former all-star player tell me he's 100% gone.
I wouldn't do it.
I wouldn't leave.
I would stay off Twitter.
I wouldn't listen to Instagram.
I don't care what anybody says.
I would open up the new arena.
After you guys win your third, then you'll win a fourth, potentially.
I would not go.
Zion's not going to New York.
We don't necessarily know for sure that Anthony Davis will go because of the Knicks have enough pieces.
But I would imagine Katie's watching shows like these and listening and reading and tweeting
and burner a count or not,
some of this is landing not great with KD.
And I'm just here to tell you, KD,
the menu will always be better with you in the kitchen.
But it's not going to be lousy without you.
And you do create an intensity and expectation
because of your greatness that's palpable in the room.
And when you're gone, it's a little loose.
It's a little fun.
Over time, I don't want too much fun and too long.
loose. But in short bursts, it's, it's good.
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So I'm going to do something
I've never done before.
I'm going to foreign territory
and I'm not sure how this
will be received.
But I'm okay with a pushback. I mean, I got Odell
Beckham Jr. screaming at me and Baker
Mayfield saying, mean, terrible.
things. I won't sleep well, but I can survive, right? I'm drinking water and trying to do everything
else right. Here I do something that I've never done before. My first ever hot golf take.
So Brooks Kepka's leading the PGA championship and shot a course record yesterday. And he
bores me to tears and I could not care less. That's my hot golf take. He's the Kauai Leonard
of golf, great and boring. He's got no personality. I get no mood swings. I, I, I,
I get no fist pump.
He's a weight room junkie.
Ooh, fascinating.
Go back to Golds after you hit another birdie.
He was asked a couple of weeks ago what you think about on the course.
He said, I don't think much.
Oh, great.
Fascinating.
Got Hemingway out there.
The guy's grape nuts.
I ate him my entire life for cereal.
Every morning my mom made me eat raisin brand, but mostly grape nuts.
40 years later, I don't remember one bowl of grape nuts.
I remember Lucky Charms.
I remember Honeycomb.
I remember Count Chocular.
I remember kicks.
I remember tricks.
I remember Apple Jacks.
I don't remember grape nuts.
He's a great golfer.
Yep, won three or seven majors.
But all you golf addicts who pull your pants up to your neck,
when you get post-fifty, you've been lecturing me about Jordan Speeth
and Rory McElroy and Justin Rose,
and they're going to be the next tiger.
There's never going to be another tiger.
He threw his clubs.
He swore.
He didn't look like a country club guy.
He was grade at 11.
He was different.
The red shirt.
The galleries.
He moved the earth.
He was a walking tsunami.
Tiger was different.
The injuries.
Even now, the divorce, the stuff.
And I know what you're saying, old cranky golf guy.
It's a shame that you have to do that to be interesting.
No, it's not.
It's called life.
Don't you stop for a car wreck?
Come on, golf guy.
There's a car wreck.
Eight cars piled up.
You don't stop and look.
Oh, you're the one cool guy who doesn't.
I do.
Everybody does.
Dustin Johnson, by the way, is fascinating.
Hot wife, drug issues, meltdowns, inconsistent play, bombs it off the tea.
He's fascinating.
Dustin Johnson's fascinating because he's flawed, because he's imperfect.
Just like Tiger Woods.
Tiger Woods is imperfect.
He's real.
It's why Kevin Durant's interesting.
It's why Aaron Rogers is interesting.
It's why a lot of people think Russell Wilson's boring and Jared Goughf is
boring because you get the same guy and Andrew Luck is boring. I get it. I just like my
quarterback's boring, but I don't like my golfers boring. Arnold Palmer wasn't boring. Lee Trubino
wasn't boring. Tiger Woods wasn't boring. Phil Mickelson's had all sorts of
controversies. He's not boring. Every time I'm opening up something about Phil
Mickelson, he's in trouble doing something here and something there and this bet and this stock
and this. He's fascinating. He's the only guy in sports I've never had on the show. I die to have on
the show Phil Mickelson. I love the guy. I can't turn off Phil Mickelson. I can turn off Justin. I can turn
off Justin Rose. I can turn off Rory
McElroy. I can turn off Jordan
Speeth. I couldn't turn
off Tiger. So it's
my hot
golf take.
By the way, how would the gallery
respond to my hot golf take?
That's the same applause as Kepka gets.
And nobody's saying he's not great.
But you people have been telling me for a decade, oh, this guy's
going to be Tiger, this guy's going to be tight. There's
never going to be another Muhammad Ali. It's never
going to happen. So rare. So you know. We're never going to have another Tiger Woods.
It's not going to happen. We almost had, we've had people close to Michael Jordan.
Kobe Bryant was close and LeBron sometimes is better. But Tiger Woods, we've had a lot of good
basketball players. But Tiger Woods changed ratings. I mean, he changed ratings on the U.S.
Open on the Masters. Like people just left watching these legendary tournaments. I haven't
I haven't missed a Masters in a U.S. Open.
I haven't, you know, or a Kentucky Derby.
I mean, Nike literally said, let's go all in on golf.
Nike?
The jogging's running football uniform company?
Let's go on golf.
Golf.
Tiger leaves?
Let's pull out of golf.
Dick Sporting goods.
Biggest sports, you know, company in the country.
Moved out of golf when Tiger moved away from golf.
That's nothing against Brett.
Brett, the guy can bench press Rhode Island.
Brooks. There you go. Brooks. Brooks Kepka. I'm not denying he's great. I'm not denying
he can bench press me. I'm not denying any of that. I'm not denying he's amazing. But he's not interesting. He's not
fascinating unless you sit in a course all day and hit golf balls. Yeah, that's really negative.
Not just honest. Phil Mickelson's fascinating. Dustin Johnson, Tiger Woods, Jack Nicholas. There are a lot of
guys that are interesting. Dustin Johnson. I just, you know, I got to be honest with you. I like people
with issues. I like people. You know, I mean, when it comes to golf in tennis,
These individual sports, team sports, I don't want you to be a wreck because you're part of a team, a collective.
But when it comes to skiing and tennis and golf, I like a little juice.
I like a little energy.
I like a little hot mess.
I do.
I do.
That Tiger Masters win, why was that so fascinating?
Because for like years, he was on, you know, you see him on the video and he's slurring, he's on the road, he's messed up, and then he recovers from it.
redemption, and that's what Hollywood's writing movies about.
I mean, by the way, Agassi, we learned years later he did meth.
Pete Stamper's did not.
Pete Stamper's was boring.
Agassie was flawed and fascinating.
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Big Ben is hosting the Steelers skill players at his
Lakehouse this week.
Where Colin was very right.
Juju Smith-Schuster, James
Connor, there's the picture
at his lake house
on the butt. Well, isn't that exactly
what we predicted?
Isn't that exactly
what we predicted? We said
you watch Big Ben come out so
focused and so driven
to prove Antonio Brown wrong,
Levian Bell wrong, to shut Cleveland up.
And I've been saying, I
cannot wait.
for this year for Big Ben and the Pittsburgh Steelers.
You folks have given this division to Baker and Lamar Jackson
and Baltimore and Cleveland.
I'm riding and I'm rolling with Big Ben and the Steelers
and the logo and the front office and that owner
and that veteran head coach Mike Tomlin
who has driven me crazy before.
But Mike Tomlin's also won a lot of divisions
and a Super Bowl and a lot of big games.
And I'm rolling with Pittsburgh.
O'Dell Beckham and Baker yesterday are screaming at an innocent radio host.
And here's a guy, camaraderie on a boat with his teammates hanging out, barbecuing.
This is exactly what I predicted.
And I'll say this, Ben's career is not as linear as Tom Brady's.
It's been interesting.
It's had bumps.
There's been four stages of Big Ben's career.
Number one, talented but he inherited a lot.
great roster. He won a Super Bowl and he didn't have a huge part in it. The second stage was,
you know, like year three through year like nine. He has absolutely arrived. He's an all-time
talent and he's carrying even average defenses. Then there was stage three. He's getting hurt. Maybe
he got a little loose, little sloppy, little rich, had kids, maybe the focus is off, kind of the
roller coaster, can't beat the Patriots. I believe he's entered stage four, which is
Resurrection and resolve.
Better shape.
Guys that drove him nuts out of the building.
No more talking about retirement.
Have you noticed that?
Talking about extending his career, inviting people over to his house,
off-season resolve, resurrection, focus.
Yeah.
His career, Tom Brady's career has been, you know, a little like Tom Hanks.
You know, it's just win after win after win.
and maybe not every year.
Tom Hanks has had an occasional bad movie,
follows it with a home run.
You know, and Ben's career has been hit with, hit,
with, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, hit.
It's been a little bumpy.
But this story is something I absolutely love.
I've said it for years.
Give me the owner, the GM, the coach, and the quarterback.
And if they're all near an A, a B plus, or an A,
I am rolling with it.
I don't know what Freddie Kitchens is.
is Freddie
Do I think the Browns have an A owner?
Do I think the Browns have an A coach?
I think they have a B quarterback who could move into a different area.
I think their GM is super, super good at finding talent but not building chemistry.
That's why Kansas City moved him.
But, God, I love this story on Pittsburgh.
I love it on Big Ben.
It's falling right into what we thought would happen.
I'm going to prove Antonio Brown wrong.
I'm going to prove we don't need Levium Bell.
I'm going to prove I wasn't.
I wasn't the problem.
You watch him now.
He's hanging out.
Watch him coming to the best shape he's ever been in camp.
You're going to hear that story in the next three months.
Best shape he's ever been in.
Mark my words.
Let's shift to this.
Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey, smart guy, like him a lot, really thoughtful,
loves analytics.
He's kind of, you know, there was money ball, now they have Mori ball.
Threes, threes, threes, threes, threes, mid-range jumper, bad.
Should be noted, Chris Paul was the best player on the floor.
in their last game of the year, and Chris Paul's a mid-range jumper guy.
I know all you analytic mavens want to, you know, you want to put the pocket protector
in and tell us you have to shoot threes or you're evil.
Houston's number one in the analytics, Golden State this year dropped the 17th in Mori ball,
so slow down.
But he said this yesterday, he said, anytime you've got the best player in the world,
said Darrell Mori, meaning James Harden, you got a chance.
If you look at the history of NBA championships, you know, the teams were the best player
and we feel James Harden gives us a shot every year.
Yes, analytically,
analytically, I'm not going to deny
that James Harden is a top three player in the NBA.
But let's look at reality and not math.
The reality is that NBA legacies and reputations
are built on playoff success.
I didn't make that rule up.
I didn't make that rule up.
Those are the rules.
I don't think speed limit should be 55,
but those are the rules.
drive around 55.
If you don't win in the postseason, Dan Marino, you don't get to be in the greatest
conversation.
And those are the rules in the NBA.
Secondly, the mid-range jumper, by the way, is having a playoff renaissance.
And Joel M. Bede and Janice are two superstars, and they're never going to be great
at shooting the three.
I doubt it seriously.
And Kevin Durant's still the best two shooter in the league.
And Kauai shoots a great, too.
and Portland's been living off mid-range jumpers,
and last night Golden State lived off the two, not the three late.
And also with James Harden, and this is just a reality, not analytically.
I don't know if analytics picks this up,
but because of his body and because of his style,
he wears down late in seasons.
He just looked tired.
He's just not as good when you get past the first round,
sometimes late in the first round.
Maybe it's his body type.
Maybe it's his style, which is ball-centric, dominating the ball.
but his style does not lend itself to being great in June and late May.
And folks, it doesn't matter what the analytics say.
As a boxer, if you're never the champ, you're not in the conversation of greatest or second greatest.
It doesn't matter if you have the most knockouts.
You have the best punch ratio.
You land the most punches.
You've got to hold the belt or you're not in the conversation.
Dan Marino's arguably the greatest pure passer in football history.
It's not in the conversation of greatest.
And right now, there are four words that sum up James Hardin's career.
Based on the data, those are not best ever words.
That's how you sum up James Hardin's career.
Based on the data, nobody wants to hear that.
We're going to pass the greatest player on the torch from LeBron.
It may have just been passed to KD.
and then if Janus wins a couple, maybe it'll be Janus.
But we're not talking Janus great until he wins a title.
And by the way, Katie wasn't even in the conversation until he won a couple.
And LeBron's leaving that conversation because he can now can't make the playoffs.
So I don't need data to describe Durant.
I don't need data to describe Michael Jordan or LeBron or Kobe or Shaq.
I don't need data for any of those guys.
Okay, if you start talking about your OPB, yes, you know me, and you go baseball stats,
Mickey Mantle could play.
I don't need data.
I don't need any data.
Mike Trout can play.
I don't need his batting average.
I don't care what Derek Jeter's batting average was.
I don't care about Rod Carus, Tony Gwynn, he could hit.
Wade Boggs, they could hit.
You start moving into the data stuff, you're out in the conversation, at least for greatest player ever.
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He's still in New York? Okay, let's not waste any time here with, speaking of veteran newsman.
Have you noticed, if you noticed Bruce Ard when he goes to New York City, kind of mails it in out here.
Have you noticed how handsome and debonair he is? Let's go to the Coward Global Satellite Network.
The guy looked like he's a Tom Ford model. What the hell's going on with Broussard?
Look at these pocket squares.
so tight.
Look at that.
I don't know how to take that.
Is that a compliment or is that an insult when I'm in L.A.?
I'm not sure.
Well, I see the way Parker dresses.
You definitely need to step it up out here just to make that odd couple show
work on Foxmoards Radio.
I was saying this, it's been a bad couple.
It's been a bad month for the analytic mavens
because I'm watching Golden State last night, Chris.
And in that fourth quarter, they just went for the best shot.
Portland with a lead took 14 threes.
And in some instances, I thought bad shots.
What do you make of Golden State?
You know, you talked about it earlier this year.
You're the first that tip me off to this.
They are not in Houston's class as a three ball team.
They really work a lot for the best shot.
And I thought last night was an example of that.
No, you're totally on point.
And not just in the fourth quarter, but generally the great misperception
about Golden State is that they're just this three-point shooting team
that hoist a bunch of shots from 30 feet.
Yeah, they do have the two best shooters or two of the best shooters of all time
and Clay and Steph and then when Durant's there.
But they were second in the league this regular season in mid-range shots.
They get backdoor layups.
Stefan and other guys will get dribble drives and finish at the rim.
And then, of course, the three-point shots.
So while Houston and last night, Portland, Milwaukee, you know, all these teams have gone overboard with the three-point shot.
Golden State, which changed the game, they still have a great balance.
And that is one of the reasons why they are the best team in the league because of that balance.
32 and 4 when Katie doesn't play and Steph does.
How do you think this is landing on Kevin Durant watching this transpire?
Look, Kevin Durant is a human being, all right?
That means inside it's hurting him.
I mean, period, the end.
You love it if Nick Wright or Jason McIntyre was to fill in for your show, you know, and do a pretty good job.
But if one of them filled in for your show and the ratings skyrocketed, you'd be upset because you're a human being.
I would too.
Yes.
I mean, unless Kevin Duran is Jesus Christ,
then he's got to be hurting with the way they're playing without him.
So I just think, look, I heard you alluding to it earlier.
If they win this championship without Kevin Duran, he's got to bowl.
Because some people, I'm not one of those people.
I don't think you are either.
But there are people, fans and ex-players, current players,
who belittle his two championships,
even though he was the finals MVP,
even though he's arguably the best player in the world,
they belittle those two championships.
We heard Clyde Frazier do it say there's an asterix by it.
What do you think that it'll be if they win it without him?
They'll belittle them even more.
Marcus Thompson, you know, you love him on your show, I love him.
He just came out with a book,
K.D., Kevin Durant's relentless pursuit to be the greatest.
If that title is accurate and Durant really wants to be the greatest to ever play,
he has no choice but to get out of Golden State and go somewhere and try to lead his own team to a title.
I saw this story and I want you to address it.
I'll talk about it later because I think the Eastern Conference could be in trouble if Kyrie Irving goes west.
There's a story now that Kyrie is considering the Lakers and so is Anthony Davis
and that NBA executives are petrified of Kyrie and,
Anthony Davis joining LeBron.
Can you refute it, confirm it?
What do you make of that story?
Yeah, I mean, look, everything I'm being told, and this is by people close to this situation,
is that there is very little, almost no chance of Kyrie Irving going to the Lakers.
Now, he will meet with them out of respect for LeBron.
Obviously, they've rekindled their relationship.
But this would shock people close to Kyrie.
if he decided to go back to play with LeBron and the Lakers.
Obviously, there's a chance of Anthony Davis going there,
but I think there's a better chance of both of those guys,
K.D. or Kyrie and AD, going to New York.
We know about Kyrie's ties with Kevin Durant.
You know, if they go there,
Kyrie's not joining somebody else's team,
even though KD's the better player.
It's kind of both of them going there together.
The reason I think AD could,
wind up with the Knicks is because David Griffin, the new president general manager in
New Orleans is going to make it very difficult on the Lakers to get Anthony Davis.
Now, I don't think you'll make it impossible, but it's going to be hard.
And if he really likes R.J. Baird, who they could get from the Knicks if they trade with
the Knicks for AD, and you unite the roommates, the great friends, the former All-Americans at Duke
put them together in New Orleans.
That's a great storyline.
Everybody would be into it,
and they're two great young players.
So I think New York is in the driver's seat
and the favorite to get Anthony Davis.
By the way, Milwaukee, Toronto
probably isn't fascinating to the masses.
We've got the Kauai could leave Toronto story.
You and I talked about it this week.
You know, it's really interesting
when you look at this Milwaukee team
and their salaries and their youth
and the star and the coach,
If Anthony Davis does not go east, if Kevin Durant does not go east, if Kyrie did go west,
it looks like to me Milwaukee could dominate the east for a long time.
Do people in the league, are they talking about that?
Well, so many people in the league are convinced that Anthony Davis will end up in the east
and that Kyrie Irving will stay in the east, whether it's Boston,
although a lot of people think he's out of there, they think it's New York.
You know, there may be an outlier here or there that thinks they're going to go to L.A.
And then most think KD. is going to New York as well.
So I don't think people fear a lopsided league as it has been,
like the East has one or two good teams and then everybody else is in the West.
Yonis, though, you're right about them, if that were to happen,
having a chance to dominate the conference the way LeBrian James has.
If your scenario came true, I mean, Philadelphia would be the only team in their way.
And we know how immature they are.
We know about Joe LNB's health issues.
It could be LeBron James all over again.
But here's something else, Colin, we need to look at.
What is Janus, what is his ceiling?
Like, if the Milwaukee Bucks win the championship this year, that will be completely unprecedented.
I don't think we've ever seen a team go from the 16th best record or somewhere around there
to the NBA championship in one year without adding a major star.
The closest I can think of, you'll remember this was Portland in 1977,
but they did add Maurice Lucas, who was an all-star.
So this is unprecedented.
What does this say about how good Janus is?
and wait till he adds a three-point shot.
He's getting better from behind the arc.
I think in two years he will be a very competent three-point shooter,
probably around 36, 37, 38 percent from three.
He's going to be unstoppable,
and he could wind up eventually putting himself in that goat conversation.
Good stuff, Chris Broussard.
Have a great weekend.
Enjoy Rob Parker on the show today.
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Thanks, bud.
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