The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 07/07/2020

Episode Date: July 7, 2020

Colin gives his thoughts on Patrick Mahomes' record breaking contract. Colin discusses which other players he would give a 10 year contract to. Colin also discusses how many more Super Bowls Mahomes will win.Guest: NFL Hall of Famer Terry Bradshaw Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find your local station for the herd at Fox Sports Radio.com or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Heard. is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It is Tuesday. Live in Los Angeles, hour one. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Patrick Mahomes got paid today.

IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. Couldn't be happier for him. Joy Taylor is joining me. Terry Bradshaw next hour. Michael Vic after that, my friend Nick Wright, joining me this hour. This story broke at the end of yesterday show Joy. And it's not only good for Patrick Mahomes.

It's good for Kansas City. It's good for Andy Reid. It's good for the NFL. It's good for CBS, NBC, Fox, ESPN, anybody that's got an NFL contract. It's good for everybody. There's a win for the entire league. It feels almost like a shift, right, into like the next era of the NFL. Yeah, they've changed all the rules.

Quarterbacks are really valuable. They are in America right now. The most important position in American sports is quarterback in the NFL. And I was thinking about this this morning. Find me the big money NFL quarterback contract that isn't worth it. No, I'm dead serious. I struggle to find a single baseball contract of big money that's worth it. Mike Trout's amazing.

$435 million for Mike Trout? I looked it up this morning. He's never won a playoff game. The angels are barely relevant in Los Angeles. Forget the rest of the country. And Mike Trout's amazing. Think of all the quarterback contracts. Of course Patrick and Holmes is worth every penny.

I could argue he's underpaid, although I doubt he really cares. Carson Wentz. Oh, come on, Carson Wentz. I looked it up this morning. The Philadelphia Eagles, as far as I can tell, make over $10 million a home game. In fact, if my math is right, it's closer to 20. million a home game. He carried them to the playoffs. Let's just cut it in the middle. It's $15 million they make from beer. They drink a lot of beer in Philadelphia to tickets, to sweets,

to advertising, to tailgating, to programs, to food, they eat a lot in Philly. Carson Wentz made that franchise $15 million. He got them a home game. Did you watch the Eagles last year when he was throwing a deck furniture, lawn chairs? He carried them to the playoffs. He made half his contract in a one home game. Hell, the Cowboys make $600 million a year with their stadium. I'm not joking. Philadelphia makes $220 million. Russell Wilson, Aaron Rogers.

Aaron Rogers doesn't have an owner. Free agents don't want to play there. It doesn't matter. They've got Aaron Rogers. They win 10 games a year. People bag on Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is 18 and 12. He got the Vikings a home playoff game.

You're making half your contract on a home playoff game. I looked at all the contracts this morning. Everybody banged on Jimmy Garoppolo. He's 21 and 5 as a starter. Kyle Shanahan's great. Losing record in San Francisco without him. Jimmy Garoppolo makes $27.5 million. Today, you think that's underpaid?

He's getting them multiple home games. Garoppolo gets them two home playoff games. They're making $30 million on those. He pays for his contract. Jared Goff, everybody bangs on Jared Goff. Now, he's worked his contract a little bit to help the team. let's say it makes about $32 million, $33 million a year. He's already been to a Super Bowl.

He's 33 and 14 as a starter. Sean McVeigh's system, he's great. And people bag on Jared Gough. It's Los Angeles. We have options. If you can't score points, I watched him out play Mahomes on Monday Night Football in Los Angeles. I've watched him out play Kirk Cousins.

I've watched him out play Dak Prescott. And you bag on Jared Goss' contract. It's Los Angeles. People have options here. You want to put up Blake Brousinsxon. Bortals in that division? He's got to go against Russell Wilson, Trice, Goralopolo twice, Kyler Murray twice.

Jared Goff is worth every penny he makes. He's worth every penny. You can't have a backup. You can't have Blake Bordels in the city. There's too many things going on. We have Kauai, LeBron, AD, and Paul George. The coaches are famous here, Doc Rivers. So, I mean, there's just certain things in life you cannot overpay for.

You cannot overpay for California coastal real estate. Homes in Malibu used to go for four. then 14, then 24. Now they go for $84 million. And with Silicon Valley, those are bonus checks in Silicon Valley for the smart guys or women. There'll be $300 million homes in Malibu in the next 50 years. You can't overpay for it. They're not making any more of it.

And in the NFL, you cannot overpay for a star quarterback. I mean, Russell Wilson has overcome an archaic offensive system. Bad offensive line. Bad offensive line coaches, bungled first round picks. undrafted wide receivers. It makes it all work. He just makes it all work. I mean, Aaron Rogers has no owner.

It's a small market. Free agents don't want to play there. Green Bay is only giving him one really big time defense. It doesn't matter. He usually wins the division. You can't overpay for it. I struggle to find a single big baseball contract I like. John Carlos Stanton, Robinson Canoe,

Mani Machado, Mike Trout. God, you've got to be kidding me. None of those guys translate to Ws. I love Bryce Harper, the player. And I think there's some merchandising with him you can't get with other stars. But Bryce Harper's contract, Washington got better without him. I mean, so when I look at these contracts and you throw in the fact, and this is another one, the NFL has changed all the rules as Joe and I talked about to start this rant.

It's all offense. Be Kirk Cousins is worth of money. Goffs worth the money. Even Matt Stafford is the other one. Everybody bangs on Matt Stafford. Do you realize that Matt Stafford has seven wins against the Green Bay Packers? If you have to play Aaron Rogers twice a season, minimum, you're not going to pay for a quarterback?

Matt Stafford has beat the Green Bay Packers seven times. He's thrown through 34 touchdowns against the Green Bay Packers, often in Lambo. His quarterback rating is 90 against the Green Bay Packers. You don't think Matt Stafford's worth the money? What are you going to go with? Matt Moore? Sean Manion?

What are you going to go with? Matt Stanford gives you fighting chance. Gough gives you fighting chance against the Niners. Matt Ryan, you're facing Drew Brees. I'm sorry, he's won an MVP. The money for NFL quarterbacks is always worth it. Even the guys we bang on are a bargain. So Patrick Mahomes, take it to the bank.

So I saw this. Let me shift to this. Everybody's saying this morning, Well, what does this mean for Dak Prescott? I mean, we have to talk about that, right? It's the contract negotiation that will never go away. So companies always worry about this word. Remember this word.

Companies hate it. Precedent. Well, if you pay this guy that or this woman that, well, then you're going to have to pay everybody. I never buy into that. There's Patrick Mahomes. one business, and then there's D. Scott. That's another business. You don't hear other DJs saying, you know, Howard Stern made 91 million last year. I deserve at least 21 million. I'm one fifth of Howard Stern. No, no, no. Howard Stern is his own market. You don't hear other basketball players

say, Michael Jordan made $140 million on his shoe deal. I should get, I mean, he hasn't played in 20 years. I deserve at least $20 million. Now, Michael Jordan has his own brand, not just his own shoe, Michael Jordan is his own market. Patrick Mahomes is his own market. There is no other Patrick Mahomes. Lamar Jackson's never won a playoff game. You never want a playoff game. We have found the perfect quarterback.

Even Aikman and Bradshaw and Montana and Brady, it was bumpy to start. He's 24. He's the perfect size. He has the best arm. He has the best offensive coach. He's incredibly mature. This guy's his own market. You can pay him.

And then DAC is different. And by the way, DAC isn't even arguably the MVP of the offense. Most believe it's Zeke in the offensive line. Dak doesn't necessarily elevate the cowboy brand. Let's be honest, Tony Romo became a household name. You know, there were arguments. Tony Romo was the third or fourth best quarterback in the NFC.

Forget Peyton Manning. Forget Brady. Forget Big Ben. Just in the NFC was the third or fourth best quarterback. So, Dak doesn't necessarily elevate the brand, and you have to think about that. Patrick Mahomes is the chiefs. He is the Kansas City Chiefs.

He's not just the face of the franchise. I'd argue now he's the face of the league. So I've never bought into this talk about, well, this is a precedent. You can't pay him. There are people that are their own market. Mahomes is his own market. Nobody throws the ball like that. Nobody makes plays like that.

He's a walking highlight reel. his highlight reel after two years. This kid is a coin toss in overtime from going to two Super Bowls in his first two years and probably winning both because I think they come out and beat the Rams. I mean, there is no comp. The only other guy in the league I would give a 10-year contract to. The only other player I'd give a tenure contract to is Russell Wilson. And even then the last two years, he's 40, 41.

Probably the player gets the better end of the deal than the franchise. guys. No other player in the NFL were talking about 10-year contracts? I mean, we signed this yesterday. When this story broke, we all went, oh, yeah, yeah, 10, yeah, of course. It wasn't even an argument. It was, yeah, of course you would sign it. Russell Wilson's the only under guy in the league. You got

consider. I mean, I love Carson Wentz, injuries. Aaron Rogers, old. I mean, you start stacking guys up. Lamar Jackson. I got no playoff wins. Give me another year. You got to get me at least one more year on Lamar. I mean, this wasn't even an argument. 10 years, I'd been comfortable with 12 to 14. Seriously.

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Search Learn the Hardway and listen now. What's up guys? This is Clivert Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, A, ref, my mom wants you

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Anyway, is I'm not really good at enjoying the moment. I've gone to therapy about it and stuff, but if I have a great day, I'm always looking ahead to the next one, trying to top it. It's not a good quality. I'm not very good at it. It's important to enjoy the moment. And Kansas City, to their credit, Andy Reid really enjoyed the moment when they won the Super Bowl. They had more spare ribs. Andy Reid celebrated for two weeks. And that's what you should do. You shouldn't be like me. You should celebrate stuff. Because Fox Bet came out yesterday, and they don't care about anything other than making money. That's what gambling companies do. And they have the over under on Patrick Mahomes' Super Bowl's going forward as one and a half.

And that's the right number. And if you made me bet my 401K on either, I'd probably take the under. I think Patrick Mahomes wins one more Super Bowl. And that is in no way a criticism of Patrick Mahomes. The gap between one and two in life is everything. Like kids. Having one kid is barely parenting. I could golf with my buddies.

I can go to Vegas for the weekend. I mean, they sleep all the time. like having a baked potato that occasionally cries. One kid is nothing. Two, oh hell. Weekends done. Boys don't have any friends. Over. Can't golf. Can't play. It's over. For like seven years, life's over. It's my theory on DUIs. They're all bad. But if you got one in 30 years, you could say, well, it was a New Year's party. I had an extra glass of wine. I apologize. It was bad judgment. Two DUIs? You're an alcoholic. It's like if you walked up to a pilot at a party. And he'd been a pilot at United for 40 years.

Did you ever have a bad flight? Yeah, I was in a crash. You'd be like, ooh, ooh, 40 years. Was it mechanical? But if he said, I was in two crashes. You'd be like, oh, I'm never flying with you. Crazy guy in the cockpit. One to two is massive.

Aaron Rogers got to a Super Bowl at 27. Never been back. And if you look at the NFC, I don't think he's getting there anytime soon. The Super Bowls are wild. randomly random. Dan Marino is the best thrower of the football maybe I've ever seen. No Super Bowl wins. Eli Manning's got two. He's the second best Manning quarterback. Maybe the third. Archie was underrated. Brad Johnson's got one. Dan Marino has none. I mean, the three guys that have the most, Brady and Montana were drafted in later rounds. Bradshaw got four, but he played with the best

defense I've ever seen for a decade. It's who you play with. Free agency and trades now. It's a much more mobile league. Kansas City could have great players. They just want to play somewhere else. Jacksonville overpays for them or the Raiders overpay for them. The league is much more mobile. There's more trades now. General managers didn't use to trade. They trade all the time now. You'll see individual teams trading six and seven times. So much of this. I mean, is Lamar Jackson? What if he keeps getting better? Doesn't look like Kyle Shanahan's teams will get worse. We've got more and more great quarterbacks.

What if Trevor Lawrence ends up with Belichick? I think Patrick Mahomes will win multiple personal awards. He may win seven MVP's. But if he asked me today, Fox Bet says one and a half Super Bowls going forward, I'd probably bet the under. I think he'll win another one. And he will be a first ballot Hall of Famer, and there'll be arguments to be made that he's the greatest quarterback of all time,

and I'll be right there arguing for him. But so much of Brady's success has been random and luck and getting Belichick and a bad division that can't get it right at quarterback. Do you know that Tom Brady once played in the same division as Peyton Manning? Then the NFL switched it. Without that break, Tom Brady does not get to nine Super Bowls. He probably doesn't get the three. It's the reality of this sport.

It's hard. Best quarterback doesn't mean best record, doesn't mean best performance, doesn't mean you get the best coach. Andy reads 62. Four more years. Has a health scare says, I'm done. And they hire the wrong coat. I mean, who knows?

All I know is enjoy the moment. I rarely do. Kansas City did. It is hard, even if you're Patrick Mahomes to get back. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. You know, I was just thinking there's only two people I would pay 10-year contracts to in the NFL, Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes. And they both should have been Major League Baseball players.

Now, think about that. Those are the two, in my opinion, the two best quarterbacks in the NFL are Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson. They were baseball stars. But football gives you free scholarship. So when you're a young man, you're 18 years old. Football's like, here, come play here. Full ride.

College baseball does not. So the system of baseball is losing great talent. Mahomes should have been a baseball player. dad was a major league baseball player. You watch Mahomes throw, you've seen his arm, 6'3, he's a major league baseball player. But football's free. The football system

is better than the baseball system. Also, travel baseball is very expensive for perhaps, let's say it's a single mom. It's $2,500, $2,500 per kid per summer. Who can afford that? Football's not. Amateur football's very, you know, the 7-on-7 stuff and the elite 11 stuff.

The system of football, this is why the greatest athletes in America are often playing basketball and football. The system's better. Baseball would die for Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes. And let me talk about that. Those are the only two guys I would give tenure contracts to. Now, I do realize that Russell Wilson would be in his 40s for a 10-year deal,

but my takeaway is you watch Russell Wilson workout, take care of his body. He's like LeBron. He's going to age real well. Russell's going to age real well. But these are the two guys I'd give a 10-year contract to. Lamar Jackson win a playoff game. Aaron Rogers, too old. Deshawn Watson, two ACLs. Carson Wentz, injury prone.

He is. I love him. He's injury prone. But it's not just about talent. So it starts with talent. You've got to have talent for me to give you a 10-year contract. But the reason I would give Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes that deal, and the reason Patrick got this deal yesterday after talent was maturity,

you can trust Russell Wilson if you give him a 10-year deal. You can trust Patrick Mahomes. There'll be no 3 a.m. phone calls. No embarrassing the franchise. You know when you drive to the, when Andy Reed pulls into the facility at 5.50 in the morning, Mahomes is going to be there for a decade. I get a lot of heat because I ripped Johnny Mansell. I ripped James Winston.

I ripped a little cam. I ripped Baker Mayfield out of college for their maturity. Why? Because it follows you. Immature 16-year-old is not mature 22-year-old. And these franchises in the NFL don't have to. time for you to grow up. I'm not saying it's your fault.

You could have a bad home life, immature dad, whatever. But you're going to be a grown-up. I'm not giving you the key to a franchise if you're not a grown-up. That's why I rip Baker, Rip Mansell, rip James. All those immaturity issues have just followed them and their judgment is poor in the NFL. This contract's not just about a guy who can throw without looking, not a guy that can throw left-handed. It's about they trust Patrick Mahon.

homes, that they can give him a 10-year contract, and they know he's good. You're not going to end up in videos we regret. Not going to say anything on Twitter we regret. He's a good kid. Black Lives Matter, stood up, right stuff. That is a huge component to this. It is why I will continue to rip college prospects who I think aren't mature. One of the great things about the NFL right now, I think Joy and I've talked about this,

I can't think, I mean, Baker Mayfield's my pushback as a starter. James is no longer a starter. it is remarkable how mature all of the star quarterbacks are. It's incredible. There's not a bad kid out there. And that matters. Like whenever people push back on that, what does it matter when a guy does in college?

Oh, you never had a big job, have you? You're just telling me you've never had a big boy job. Because to get a big boy job, it's not just about your talent. The company has to trust you won't be an idiot on Twitter. You won't be an idiot with a couple beers. in you. You won't be an idiot in the offseason that they can build the $4 billion franchise. The Hunt family can go, let's go. Same with Carson Wentz. He may have injury issues, but they're like, this kid's all in. This kid cares about football. That's why the GMs

poke you and prod you about your childhood and your parents and what do you do and how do you act. Never believe anybody in the American sports media. Never believe anybody that tells you it doesn't matter. These are $5 billion franchises. You give Mahomes this deal because you trust him. I mean, every parent listening to me, every parent listening to me that has multiple kids, be honest about this. There's always one kid you trust with the money. If your kids are all going out

for ice cream and a movie tonight, there's one. It's a 14-year-old girl. You're like, okay, let's give Janice the money. We trust her with the money. And not all your kids you trust with money. Not all your kids you trust with the keys of the car. And you love them. And they're great kids. But there's always that one kid you're like, yeah, we trust her with the money. You trust Mahomes with the money, with the deal, with the contract, with the responsibility, with the games, being the face of the franchise. You trust him in the offseason. You trust him getting to the facility. You trust him not embarrassing the franchise. It's not just about talent. Wilson Mahomes,

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We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me. He goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Quarterback on office blue 42. Hey, ref, my mama want you to wave at her. What? Where's she at?

Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Cliverts show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Generally speaking, I'm glad Patrick Mahomes took this. Now, the rule in business in America, if you're talented, sign short contracts. Come back on the market as much as you can. That's the general rule.

But I'm going to get Patrick Mahomes decided I'm not going to do that. Now, generally, generally that's not what you do. But two things here for Patrick Mahomes. Holmes, I think he's smart. Number one is he took the money discussion off the damn table. God, if I have to talk about DAC's contract one more time, it makes me not like the Cowboys or Dak, I'm over both. He just took it off the table. Five thousand questions, all gone. It's all football. Okay, so that's the first thing. He just took it off the table. Like Philadelphia with Carson Wentz. Just off the table. Don't have to talk about it anymore.

Worry about our stuff. The second thing is sometimes you hit the lottery. There's not many jobs like this in America, but there's a few where you can't upgrade. For a young quarterback getting Andy Reid? Not much of an upgrade out there. Duke basketball. Mike Shishowski signed a 10-year contract. He doesn't want to coach the NBA. There is no better college job than Duke. You just sign a tenure contract. Just go with it. Kansas, Carolina, what's it matter? If you don't want to coach in the NBA, Duke is the best college job, certainly in the conversation. For comedians. The rule was always for American comedians. You're always looking for the next gig until you become Carson, Letterman, Stephen Colbert, and you get the late

night show, that's your final job. You just stay with that one until, you're like, all right, I'm 58, 68, I'm retiring. There's not many jobs like that. Duke basketball, you know, comedian getting a late night show, a Colbert show or a Jimmy Fallon show, you can't upgrade. That's really as good as it gets. And I look at Patrick Mahomes with Andy Reed, and I'm like, yeah. and not a lot of, and Brett Veets, the GM and the Hunt family, just sign the contract. And the other thing is, we don't care what quarterbacks make. It doesn't matter.

I mean, Eli Manning has the most career earnings ever for an NFL player. I don't think more of him. Tom Brady took pay cuts for 10 years. I don't think less of him. This is going to have no real effect. It's not going to, if he makes a little less money, he's not going to be saying, I can't afford blank home, blank car. I didn't take care of my parents. The bottom line is, and I say this, once you get to a

certain number with this stuff, it's about winning for these guys. Terry Bradshaw is who he is, not because of his contract, because of the winning thing. Tom Brady's not the most talented quarterback. Eli's the second most talented quarterback in his family. Some would argue the third, Archie Manning was underrated. It's about Ws. It's about wins. If you're trying to fight for every last morsel. I, you know, it's funny about this. So, you know how people play the lottery? And I'll buy a ticket, you know, occasionally. The rule of thumb is always take the lump sum. But when you take the lump sum, here's the two problems. Number one, what if you take the lump sum and we have a recession and the market crashes for two years? So you take the lump sum, you get less money than if you take payments

for the next 30 years. So you're taking less money to begin with. And, what if you take it, you put it in the bank, and the banks collapse or the market collapses. Or you can do it the other way, the Patrick Mahomes way. Just give me a lot of money for the next 30 years. I don't have to talk about money. I don't have to worry about money. I don't have to worry about the stock market. You give me a blankety-blank money for a bunch of years, and it just takes the stress off my

life. I'm never going to win Powerball, but I've thought about this before. I just don't want the stress of having to – if you get $400 million, or I could get $800 million over 25 years, I just never have to worry about it. I could screw up in the stock market. I could buy a bad home. I could make terrible business decisions every year for 40 years. And in the end, I get another 15 million in the last year.

So to me, the stress that he got out of by taking the money, just don't have to talk about money anymore. He's set for life. His family set for life. I love it. With that, Hall of Famer, four Super Bowls, MVP and two of them. He wasn't paid nearly as much as Patrick Mahomes, but he made a lot of dough. Terry Bradshaw joining us for the kids.

Coward Global Satellite Network. So I don't mean to pry into your business, Terry. Okay, don't. But you made, I remember, you signed some big fat contracts, Terry Bradshaw. Did it put a little pressure on you once you saw those checks? Well, no. My football contract, the most money I ever made was $300,000. And back then you were paying 50 cents of that to the,

government so added up uh you know everything i had i had to borrow money i even mortgage my nfl contract to buy a ranch and a and a tractor and a and a cutter to cut hey so it was all it was all relative and and uh this is uh it's pretty interesting what what's come down with the small thing i'm happy for him that's good for him or as i say good on you mate yeah you know i was saying, Terry, I like the idea that he just took the money discussion off the table. And there's part of me that thinks, you know what, I'm so tired of Dak and the Cowboys, I'm over both of them. If you knew you could get the money thing done for 10 years, and maybe you make a little less,

Terry, but you just took the damn discussion off the table. Couldn't I argue it's better for you? It's just, it's easier on the mind? You can, absolutely. I would agree with what you're saying, and I agree with what he did. 10 years at 40 million, 100. He's got an injury closet at 150. I don't know all the specifics.

That is a ton of money. And I just left his hometown yesterday, Tyler, Texas, where his mama is still working. His dad is still a custonian. I'm sure he'll, you know, he'll take care of them. I hope so. It's a good young man and good things happen to him. But he did the right thing. $40 million.

So what? So somebody makes 45 or 50. $40 million, $40 million, $40 million, pay your taxes, put it in some banks, invests in markets, do some safe things, buy land, whatever. God bless him. That is, I'm happy for him, and I think he did a really smart thing. And Colin, forget this. Well, Dak's going to try to get 40.

Dax will not work 40, all right? Forget that. But, Dak, if he'll just stay and play off the coat tail of the average, He'll make 35 a year for the next three or four years, just sitting there doing whatever, you know. But you start winning and you move that needle. And this Mahomes kid, he moves the needle. I had a buckskin baby born on my ranch this year.

Most incredible baby I ever had. You know, we named it Mahomes. Yeah, he is special. It's a special baby. And this guy's a special talent. And good for him. I'm really happy for him. You know, it's interesting that the coaching dynamic, Brady and Belichick worked forever,

but they got tired of each other in the end. You and Noel got four Super Bowls. You probably wore each other out in the end. I get it. It's the reality of it. Andy Reed, how much of Andy Reed is Mahom's success? Because I think he almost hit the lottery when you get Andy Reid. Well, Andy Reid is very quarterback friendly, very smart.

and he is a product of West Coast offense for our listeners, our viewers out there was an offense that was driven off of a triangle to the strong side, tight inside. To get rid of the ball quick, one, two, three, one, two, three. If the flats open, take it. If he's not, go to the second, go to the third. It's all right there.

And then the back side is the mirror image of the front side. Give rid of the ball. And you could take a Joe Montana at 6 to, say, you know, 205. you can take a Kenny Anderson in Cincinnati, a Brian Seip, a little guy in Cleveland, just throwing it like nobody had ever seen. So this offense is so good. I love this West Coast offense. And it's perfect for Mahon's because Andy just made it a little deeper.

He just made the fastest a little deeper. Then you take into the consideration how talented this kid is, moving out of the pocket, feeling the pressure, all the God-given traits that, you know, very few people have that play that position. and it's just perfect. Andy is the perfect quarterback coach. He's a guy that is always going to pick you up. He's not going to scream and holler at you and beat you up

and make you feel bad and make you get nervous looking over your shoulder. He's always going to embrace and love you up. And he's so smart offensively. Perfect match these two. You know, it's a salary cap sport. And the good news is Andy Reid, a lot of his best players on offense. He got in the third, fourth, and fifth. the round. He makes everybody. Right. Right. But it is interesting that, you know, I can make the

argument, the less you take, the more wins you get. Or is that unfair to a pro athlete? To ask a pro athlete, take less to win more. Because people are saying Mahomes deal is not great for Mahomes. It's great for the Chiefs. But I would argue what's great for Mahomes is winning games, right? Hey, let me ask you, let me tell you something. I've never had a soul ever, ever asked me. Hey, Bradshaw, how much money did you make? Hey, Bradshaw, how many yards did you throw for? Hey, Bradshaw, how many touchdown passes did you throw for? They always wonder what?

Show me the rings. That is what this is about. And if you give up a little money, a little, tell the people out there right now that are going through this pandemic that are worried about being able to buy a loaf of bread or some milk for their kids and see this $40 million. Tell them about this and see how they feel. Patrick understands. This is a lot of money. And how much is enough? Do you have to be the highest paid? No. But if you save a little, that's why I admire Tom Brady, Colin. Brady could have had the ego like, well, our boy down in New Orleans. He wanted to be the highest paid. You got the guy in India. You had Peyton highest paid. That's important to them. And that's fine. That's good if that's what they need. But Brady knew winning, winning championships.

And if he had to give up five or six million, so what? Look at, got six world titles, six. That's pretty impressive. That's why I appreciate and respect Tom Brady so much. And this Mahomes kid reminds me so much of Tom Brady. You know, Patrick Mahomes is one of those guys. Everybody says he has talent. I want you to go back, Terry, to the first time you saw him play.

Was it obvious for you? Because Andy Reid admits. Andy's like, listen, I had the GM kept telling me, You got to take him. And he's like, I watched them, and I'm like, and he's like he's a little loose back there. I'm not sure. Go back to the first time you saw Mahomes. What did Terry Bradshaw see?

I saw him at Texas Tech. And he, to me, was just another Texas Tech quarterback. Just another guy in that offense that just throws it 50 times a game. And all those quarterbacks coming out of that offense are so protected by that offensive structure that they're going. going to the NFL and they're totally lost. So I gave him no thought. And then he was drafted and I thought, oh, my God, here, another, another Texas Tech quarterback. And then he got to play at the end of his rookie year, three or four games.

And I saw just a little bit of him. I was like, hey, you know, hey, this kid's got some instinct. And then the following year, they moved Smith. man alive. I never saw this Colin. If that's what you're asking me, I never saw this coming. I never saw this ability. I never saw this talent. I never saw the

imaginary that he has. I never saw any of this. So I'm Andy Reid. I'm going, come on man. You sure about this? You know? So everybody passed on him. Now everybody's going, well, you know, we were going to take him and so here we go. Here we want him. I liked him. I liked him, but they wouldn't let me

get him. No, listen. Hey, he's one of those guys. It's like a racehorse. Who in the world can buy a racehorse and say he's going to win the triple crown? He's got all the bloodlines. If that's the case, everybody,

everyone from the Arab nation, all those owners, those sheiks, they win every race. I got more money than anybody. You cannot see inside of a man's skin. You don't know what's in that heart. You don't know what boils him, what excites him.

how he loves the big moment, how cool in common he is. Maybe you just can't see all of that. I didn't see it for sure. Yeah, let's go back to again, Terry. As I've told you before, I imitated you. I was a quarterback in high school. I was terrible. But I used to, you actually.

Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. So you imitated me? Well, I used to throw, I threw the ball like you. Okay, I tried to. That's bad. That's bad. Because Terry would put his hand on the finger of the ball, on the top of the ball.

That's worse way. Exactly. And coaches were like, that's not how you throw football. And I'm like, that's how Terry Bradshaw throws it. But here's what's interesting. So go back to your career. So you get some money and you get some fame and you're the Pittsburgh Steelers and it's sort of a defensive team.

And you know, you want to feel yourself a little bit. I do wonder, I do wonder if Mahomes, now he's going to be this iconic star in America for the next 20 years. If he feels he has to top himself. which I think is a dangerous thing to do. Did you ever after your Super Bowls think I got to top Terry? Because when you're great, the expectations, Terry, the contract. Yeah.

Do you worry about it? Never, mine was never money-based. Oh, I've got to play better. I just got a big bonus or something. Mine was always based off of winning. Oh, my God. Played the Browns last year. We'd beat them twice.

We'd beat them twice seven years in a row. Oh, we got the Raiders on the schedule. Oh, how am I going to, that's how I put pressure on myself. I've got to, got to beat the Raiders. I've got, oh, we've got the, we've got the Cowboys. You know, they're hard to beat. And that's all it consumed me when the schedule came out. I already knew the division games was, you know, winning.

How am I going to win those games? So the pressure was not ever on money because they never had any. My thing was Super Bowl. I'll tell you the one time, I won't admit this. We played the Super Bowl 13 that year, whatever that was. 79 or 80. I'm not sure. 8.79 maybe. And I was the MVP in the league.

And I just couldn't do anything wrong, Colin. I was in a lot of athletes call of zone. I just could do no wrong. God just said, hey, you hillbelly, we're going to, I'm going to give you a great year. And don't screw it up, all right? And so I go into the playoff games. My first pass against the Houston Oilers intercepted

for a touchdown. I just walked over to the sideline, didn't give it any thought. And then went back out and we won the football game. And playoff games, Buffalo, just lit the place up just by accident, really. Got to the Super Bowl and all of a sudden, you know, everybody, Bradshaw, we got to stop Bradshaw. And I'm like, you know, I'm reading the papers and I'm going, why are you got to stop me? What did I do? Leave me alone.

I'm just out here trying to do the best job. But it got into my head. I'm not kidding you now. I got to thinking, boy, I'm the MVP of the league. Golly, boy, I can't let people down. God, what if I play a horrible game? What if I, you know, it did, Colin. It got in my head.

And then Thomas Hollywood Henderson, you can't spell catch bottom C and the T and everything. We've got to stop Bradshaw. And I'm like, wow, what about, you know, I created a monster of my. sell. And after a rough start and the third, football 13 came back and played well.

So you forget about that once you start playing. But it did get into my head that, yeah, boy, there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of pressure on me. Everybody is expecting me to win this game. Yeah. Play like an MVP. Yeah.

And it did get to me. But it was never, it was never, boy, if I have a great year, I'll make another $25,000. Hey, Colin, you'll love this. I get selected to the Pro Bowl. I threw for 1,800 yards and 15 touchdown passes. And we win Super Bowl 10, and I get knocked out. And I'm waking up the next morning.

I'm on the sidewalk waiting for the bus. All the players are loading up. I'm flying home with my mom and dad, then going to New Orleans for the Pro Bowl. And Dan Rooney said, you're not going to the Pro Bowl. And I said, what do you mean? I'm not going to the Pro Bowl. He says, you're not going to probo coming off that concussion.

He said, you don't even remember walking off the field. I said, but I'll be fine in a week in a week. And he said, no, you're not going. We've already told the league you're not going. And I said, but I get a $25 bonus. And I didn't get the money. I needed that $25,500. Yeah.

Oh, sad. Yeah. Here we are talking about 40 million. Everybody's going, well, he shouldn't have signed that. He can look at all the money. He left on the table, $40 million. Oh, my God. No.

By the way. I sure could use it. Yeah. You're in your study right now. Are you in Oklahoma? Yeah, I am. So is, and how many heads of cattle you got out there on the ranch? I just sold 102 head at the Richard Angus.

I've got 75 Brangus and great brahma and rest of the Brama there. They'll go to the market in October, and that'll be it on all. I would have moved all my cattle. But I've been buying a lot of horses. I was in Tyler's at Mahon's place yesterday over to Steve Ferguson's place. He had a couple of great brood marriage, and I went and bought them. And horses are available right now because people are trying to get rid of them. And so I've been finding great buys.

I got a guy coming in from South Dakota at 6 o'clock tonight, and five heads of great horses. People are unloading them. And I don't know if I'm, I just told my trainer, I said, I don't know if I'm stupid or if I'm the smartest guy in the world, but everybody's wanting to get rid of them. I'm getting them relatively cheap for what their value really is. And so, yeah, and we're right now,

we're in between filming the Bradshaw bunch. So this is a break. I get to come in here and talk to you. It's great. See, I don't talk about horse buying with any other guests, so that was a very rare opportunity. you're the only guy I talk horses with

and Joey and I are like well this is a different conversation I never talked about buying horses with aim I guess before well it's nice to show you have you know versatility with your program yeah you know that's why I call you cowhead and cowherds

right there now you know I'm bringing it into my world I'm ready to get back to some football everybody keeps asking me calling about football and I don't have any more answers for right now. Crossing my fingers. I know, brother.

I hear you. I hear you. Yeah. Well. Good talking to you. Hey, nice talking to you. Thanks for letting me come on your show. Yeah.

Very popular. I enjoy your show a lot. Yeah. People in America, people America love it. It's a very popular show. Your show? Yeah. It's the most popular show ever.

You're my favorite host. No kidding. You really are. All right. You're a great guy. You're talented and you're smart and whatever. I enjoy that. I enjoy listening to you.

You're red, aren't you? Your face is getting red. Go buy some more horses. All right. All right. Have me back on. You know, I got nothing to do. Okay.

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