The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 08/10/2018

Episode Date: August 10, 2018

Colin says people need to have a higher standard for Baker Mayfield as the number one overall pick and playing well against the Giants’ 4th string defense isn't enough. He thinks the Giants will re...gret drafting Saquon Barkley because he isn't an every down back. Plus, Fox NFL Insider Jay Glazer talks with Colin about the Cowboys being under the radar and whether the Rams locker room will become an issue. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:34 This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. This is the herd, wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Live in Los Angeles, IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, FS1. On a Friday, Joy Taylor is joining me. We've got NFL football. I can do an entire show on NFL football. That makes me very happy, Joy, as somebody whose brother's a Hall of Fame football player in Canton, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:03:01 you're very happy today. It's a very exciting day, Colin. Good morning. Good morning. It's great to have everybody in today. We are loaded. Jay Glazer, Brady Quinn, Rob Parker, Eric Dickerson. I want to start with this, though, standards. Standards. Being a number one pick is different. You get paid a lot more. The expectations are more. There's 120 Division I football programs. 120. Alabama, Ohio state, Michigan, Oklahoma, Miami, Georgia, USC, Stanford. All right football players. And you're the number one pick. I want my number one pick to be as gifted as Peyton Manning and John Elway.
Starting point is 00:03:44 And if he's not that good, I want him to be as big and strong as fast as Cam. Or I want him to be, have an arm like Matt Stafford. I want to watch him like Jared Goff. Like that's what my number one should be. If he can't be everything like John Elway who could run and throw, you got to give me something that's a wow. What would Baker Mayfield was a wow last night? I've never said he's not an NFL quarterback.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I've never said he's a bust. Where's the wow? Okay. 11 for 20. Congratulations. My standard for the number one pick in the NFL draft is, Hey, Colin, against guys who will work at supermarkets next week. made a really nice throw in the back of the end zone.
Starting point is 00:04:29 Folks, my problem isn't Baker Mayfield playing in the NFL. My problem is the Cleveland Browns passed on Sam Darnold and Bradley Chubb, the two best players in the league, an offensive star, a defensive star, and drafted Baker Mayfield in a tiny corner talented but tiny at Ohio State. Hold your team to hire standards. Don't confuse standards with arrogance. They're standards. I've got a standard for this show.
Starting point is 00:04:58 The Patriots have a Stanford for guys they pay. New England Patriots. They've got standards. Don't memorize the playbook quickly. They let you go to the Titans. Well, Colin, what about that throw in the back of the end zone? For a number one quarterback pick, that is not an exceptional throw.
Starting point is 00:05:17 It's called Tuesday. It's called Sunday. It's a throw. Okay, there's three things that jumped out to me with Baker. Mayfield. He looks small. I don't want my number one quarterback to look small. I don't want my number one pick in the draft at any position to look small. Number two, he moved really well against second and third team defenders. Okay, those guys, Von Miller, Terrell Suggs, that containment is going to be way better. That's a nice first down run like there. That's that nice. And number three,
Starting point is 00:05:52 he had a three and out when he faced the Giants first team defense. Those are my three takeaways. He looks small. I don't want my number one pick to look small regardless of position. He moved well against the second team. Containment will be way better in the regular season against starters. And number three, he had a three and out against the Giants first team defense. By the way, you want to know the really good play by Cleveland?
Starting point is 00:06:16 It was Tyrod Taylor, five for five against first team defense, had a pre-snap read. that was an NFL throw. Came to the line, pre-snap adjustment, makes a throw, there you go. Okay, Tyron Taylor, that's an NFL play. But you've got to have higher standard. Ask yourself this. A few years ago, back in like six, seven years ago, Tristan Thompson was in a draft. In that draft that Tristan Thompson was in, Clay Thompson was in, Campbell Walker was in,
Starting point is 00:06:47 Jimmy Butler was in, Kyrie Irving was in, Kauai Leonard was in. if Tristan Thompson would have gone number one, would you be saying as a Cavs fan, well, he's become a pretty good starter? I mean, he had nine rebounds last night. No, you'd say, Kyrie Irving was available. Co-I Leonard was available. Now, thankfully, that year, the Cavs got Kyrie. But if Tristan Thompson, who is not a number one pick, he's an NBA player,
Starting point is 00:07:20 There have been nights he's a good NBA player, and there have been series that he's completely over his skis. But Cleveland went 4 and 0 last year in the preseason. Johnny Mansell had a really good preseason game. Deshawn Kaiser was 11 for 18 in his first preseason game. Come on, man. What's your standard? Cleveland went 4 and 0 in the preseason. The next 16 weeks, they went 0 for the season.
Starting point is 00:07:46 What's your standard? He's a number one pick. I want you to be as good as Elway or Peyton Manning. And if you can't, I want you as big and strong as Cam. And I criticize Cam. You watch Cam Newton, size, body running. There are moments with Cam. He is everything.
Starting point is 00:08:02 Everything you want in a number one pick. Now, I don't like his inconsistency. Cam's all over the map. And I think he has to grow up. And I'm not sure if I'm ever going to get grown up, Cam. I saw something yesterday I don't love. But you watch Cam and you're like, oh, hell, yeah, that's a number one pick. Matt Stafford drives me crazy.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Why watch Matt Stafford make throws? and I'm like, oh yeah, that's a number one quarterback pick. I'm not saying you have to be the best quarterback in the league, but Matt Stafford makes wow throws. Cam makes wow throws. There's no wow there. That's stuff. Best throw in the night was by Tyrod Taylor.
Starting point is 00:08:32 That's just stuff. Gotta have higher standards. Colin. Colin. He looked to Sean Kaiser last year, preseason, week one, 11 for 18, touchdown, 11, 14. pass a rating. Was I jumping for joy with that one?
Starting point is 00:08:54 Was I? So why should I with this one? This one's a number one pick in the draft. My standards and expectations are even higher. Let me shift to this. Andrew Luck looked really good. Yum. He looked like he always looks when he's healthy.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Really, really good. Last night, 12 play drive, 9 play drive. You do realize Andrew. Luck is hoping to be Aerosmith. Aerosmith did this. Aerosmith came out and you're like, wow in the 70s. That is unbelievable talent. That is all-time stuff.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And then Aerosmith got into drugs and had problems and had bad album and they were a mess. And you're like, oh. And then Aerosmith came back, cleaned up, got healthy. Somebody else wrote some songs, run DMC. And you're like, oh, hell yeah. Aerosmith is good. Yeah, never forget how good Aerosmith was once they were healthy. That's Andrew Luck.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Andrew Luck has already had two careers. Let's make sure we delineate between the two. His first career was three consecutive 11-5 seasons, three consecutive playoff appearances, the AFC championship game, Pro Bowl every year at 86 touchdown passes, that led the NFL with 40 in 2014. That was his first career.
Starting point is 00:10:22 His second career was a lacerated kidney, major shoulder injury, and getting the living you know what kicked out of him because his general manager left him with no players. He is hoping to do an aerosmith. Remember me when I was healthy? This is now embarking on his third career. He came into the league and was a monster with the worst offensive line in the league and arguably the league. least talented running backs. And he was 11 and 5, 11 and 5, 11 and 5, 3 playoffs, 2014 led the NFL with 40 touchdowns. AFC championship game.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Tom Brady could not have taken that offensive line to the AFC championship game. Could not have. Joe Montana couldn't do it. Peyton Manning couldn't do it. 11 and 5, 11 and 5, 11 and 5. He was Aerosmith in the 70s. Wow. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:11:20 All-time stuff. and then Arrow Smith got into some bad stuff didn't have good health and disappeared and Andrew Luck for the last couple of years has disappeared not his own doing I mean he can take some of the blame held on to the ball too long tried to extend plays ran around too much he could take some of the blame
Starting point is 00:11:41 that's fair I mean Arrow Smith deserves some of the blame right but Arrow Smith bounced back and were as great as they'd ever been when they bounced back We are looking at the recovery stage for Andrew Luck. And do not forget how absolutely awesome he was. He was on his way to being all-time stuff. Hopefully, like Errol Smith, he can do it again.
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Starting point is 00:12:24 The best tasting jerky on Earth, guarantee. I was always very critical of the New York Giants passing on Sam Darnold at number two, who I believe is going to play in the NFL for 15 years. And I didn't think Saquan Barclay, although very gifted, a running back is not in a draft filled with great running backs. You've got a draft a running back that can give you 25 carries, can give you size, power speed, can give you everything. and I believe Sequin Barclay is lightning, but he needs thunder.
Starting point is 00:12:53 Todd Gurley's both. Zechial Elliott's both. Adrian Peterson's both. If you take a running back at number two in a draft class with eight legitimate running backs, you can't just give me thunder and you can't just give me lightning. Saquan Barclay had five carries. This is the one that everybody loved, and it is Seekwan Barclay to AT. It is all sorts of lightning.
Starting point is 00:13:15 He is wiggling here and wiggling there and oh, my guy, he's fast. That's lightning. Alvin Kamara's lightning. Mark Ingram provides the thunder. Again, you've got to pay a running back when you draft him number two, a lot of money. The rest of his carries trying to get outside. He wants to get in space. A lot of sizzle, flashy runs.
Starting point is 00:13:37 Two or three times a game, maybe four, he's going to give you a wow. But he's lightning. And lightning doesn't last very long. If I'm going to go number two with a draft pick and I got a franchise quarterback and my quarterback's 37 and getting old, you got to give me an Adrian Peterson. You've got to give me a Todd Gurley. You've got to give me an Ezekiel Elliott. That is lightning and thunder.
Starting point is 00:14:02 Never forget this. In Big Ten games last year, Sequin Barclay, in the nine Big Ten games, rushed for over 100 yards three times. In the Big Ten. Okay. Zekiel Elliott's last year at Ohio State. ran for over 100 yards in all but one game. To me, Saquan Barkley needs a compliment. But here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:14:28 The New York Giants have four Super Bowls, but of all the great teams in the NFL, they've never had any sizzle. Mark Bavarro, Phil McConkey. The number two running back in the history of the New York Giants is Rodney Hampton, who averaged less than four yards of carry. Look at their all-time running backs.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Rodney Hampton, Joe Morris, Brandon Jacobs, Alex Webster. These are 3.7 yards of carry guys. So Saquan Barkley, he's water in the desert. He is water in the desert. You can see it. But as you get closer, water in the desert is never an ocean. Todd Gurley is an ocean.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Water in the desert is never even a raging river. That's Ezekiel Elliott. water in the desert is usually a little water in the desert, but it's not sustainable forever. I'll go back to what I said in a draft that was jammed full of running backs. One NFL GM told me richest running back draft he could ever remember. You had a franchise quarterback who went to your cross-down rivals. Your quarterback's 37 years old.
Starting point is 00:15:44 and you went with a lightning running back who was going to provide a lot of runs like this. I like him. Don't get me wrong. I like him. I'd have taken Nick Chubb in round two. I'd have gotten Sam Darnold in round one. Todd Gurley last year, Rams were 6 and 0
Starting point is 00:16:02 in his six big games. He carried them on Sundays. Carried them. But again, when you are so boring, When your second leading rusher all time is Rodney Hampton Seekwon Barkley, he is water in the desert And I get it But you know when you see that water
Starting point is 00:16:24 And you get up close to it It's always a little smaller And less sustainable than it appears Be sure to catch live editions of the herd Weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific On Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app Generally over time, sports figure stuff out leagues figure stuff out, right?
Starting point is 00:16:44 But it takes a while. I always joke, in the late 90s, airlines were still allowing some smoking on planes. I mean, it's, you know, generally you think corporations are pretty smart, but from time to time, you look at these leagues and you're like, that's a dumb rule. Why are they doing that? The NFL right now has one thing that I think is absolutely moronic, the NFL four game preseason. Last night, the 49ers had key injuries to six players, one of a nine.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Solomon Thomas, a very promising defensive lineman got a concussion. Malcolm Smith, a hamstring. You had a very good tight end. George Kittle. He's a second year tied end at a shoulder injury. Why are you doing this? Why are you doing this? Okay, let me ask you.
Starting point is 00:17:30 College football has 19-year-olds who are often straight out of high school. The NCAA limits how much you can practice. There are no joint practice. with other schools. There's no exhibition games. And you'll watch Alabama, Ohio, State, Washington, Stanford, first game. You're like, oh, they're good. The NFL's got veterans.
Starting point is 00:17:55 60, 70% of the locker room, 27-year-old, 28-year-old, 29. They have OTAs. They have 30 days of camp. They have joint practices. You have better coaching that can delineate great, good, average talent. And they need four games? What? Greed. It's all it is. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:18:16 You're jumping over a $20 bill in the NFL to get to a five. You're getting players hurt. That's why I said if I run the CBA for the players, I'm DeMora Smith. After two years in the league, no more preseason games. You never have to play in one. Okay. And I would say this. I would have one preseason game. And I'll tell you why. College football is not well run.
Starting point is 00:18:40 I mean, the Big Ten plays this many in conference games. the SEC plays only this many in-conference games. The schedules are completely uneven. You know, you can look at Washington's schedule and go, what? Then you look at Auburn's schedule and you're like, what the hell's that? College football has been given Labor Day forever and they can't get it right. They've got three days, Friday, Saturday, Sunday to steal everybody's thunder. And they give us maybe two good games.
Starting point is 00:19:05 120 Division I programs this year. They give us Auburn and Washington. That's it. And then a bunch of stuff I can nap through. NFL, move your season up, starting Labor Day, week before I have a preseason game. Listen, you can't tell me it takes Sean Payton that Sean Payton can't have two OTAs, a rookie camp, a fall camp, 33 practices, joint scrimmages, one preseason games where veterans don't play. And Sean Payton can't go, I think that number three tight end is better than that number four tight end. He can't do that.
Starting point is 00:19:39 Now, it's different if you and me watch college football. and then I've made mistakes. I'm like, I think this guy will be really, really, really average, and he's really, really good in the pros. But you and I don't get OTA video. You and I don't watch the camp video. You and I don't get practice video. You and I aren't in a room for 16 hours a day looking at all the video and the work.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Coaches know very early. You ever watch American Idol? I have no musical talent. None. Now, Joy, at one point, was a muralist. She has artistic gifts. I used to sing in church. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:10 You're artistically gifted. I don't have any of it. I'm a radio guy. Blah, blah, blah, blah. I have puberty in that one way. Yeah, okay. Okay, so I used to watch American Idol. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:18 Okay, I have no talent, no gifts in music. You could spot about twice a season, that's a star. And you could spot it in 30 seconds max. Then you could spot a dozen times. There's somebody who could, you know, work in a lounge, do a commercial. That's a nice singing voice, but not a star. And then you could see a bunch of people whose grandma kept telling him, you're Whitney Houston.
Starting point is 00:20:42 They had no talent. And you could tell quickly. And I can honestly say, I watched American Idol a lot for about five years. And then I got tired of it. I don't think I ever disagreed with Simon Cowell. And Simon was the most accurate. I almost never, I can't think of any time I did. You can spot talent, physical talent, musical talent.
Starting point is 00:21:02 I tell the story all the time. I went into a gym in Hartford, Connecticut. This was like seven, eight years ago. My daughter was like 10 years old. She was playing some, you know, AAU stuff. I walked into a gym of 500 girls in 12 games, and I sat next to these scouts. And I said, I looked over to court. And there was this little tiny girl, and I'm like, who's that?
Starting point is 00:21:22 Two minutes in, they're like, oh, yeah, she's the next star. It was seventh grade girls basketball. She was tiny. And I'm like, gosh, she's got great handles for it. They're like, oh, yeah, coaches are already looking at her. 10 seconds? NFL coaches, if you can't through joint practices, rookie camps, multiple OTAs, fall camp, 33 days of practice, and then one exhibition game, you can't say, this corner is better than that
Starting point is 00:21:49 corner. I'm not even mentioning all the college tape you have and all the interviews you've done and the combine and the personal workouts. There's like nine layers before you get to an exhibition game. And you can't tell the difference. Come on, it's not that tough. I'm not talking about med school where you need eight years to qualify. five for something. We're talking about the entertainment business. Music, right, I've said this before.
Starting point is 00:22:17 I can open up, I'm not a great writer. I can open up, you give me five columnists, five columnists. I can read all their columns and go, that's the best writer, that's the worst writer. Then you and I can argue, give me a second column to tell who's second, third, fourth, but I can tell good and bad really quick. It's actually easier to see bad than, you know, I mean, great can be hard. You can argue good to great. Bad's bad and it's easy. Average is average and it's easy. You and I can argue over very good and great. You can argue over that. But by the way, both very good and great would make your roster. You're not arguing over awful. You spot him early. Average. He's out of camp. This stuff is, I'm watching that game last night. Kyle Shanahan wanted that game to end. I bet if you got most coaches
Starting point is 00:23:01 in a room, they would tell you they don't need this many preseason games or want this many preseason games. It's partly, we've done it this way for so long why change it, and partly because they make money on preseason games. That last part, so you can spot musical talent as well. Sure. I mean, the greatest at everything at anything will stick out to you, to stick out to someone who doesn't even know the business. But there is something to allowing young players to develop. I agree with you that rule change of being in the league or playing two full seasons or something like that. You just don't play preseason anymore. You're out. but it's lightly not going to change because they make the NFL makes money on these games.
Starting point is 00:23:39 That's very frustrating. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. So I watched Lamar Jackson yesterday. And my reservations about Lamar were always that he had the best offensive coach, in my opinion, in college football and Bobby Petrino. And still, if you look at his college career, was never a guy that could complete 60% of his throws. That didn't matter in the 70s, 90s in the NFL, but the NFL now is a precision league where they want you to complete 64, 65%.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Some guys like Drew Breeze have Sundays, they complete over 70%. Today's NFL is different. It's bubble screens. It's precision. It's pre-snap. There's no huddles. It is a different sport. Lamar Jackson is an NFL player.
Starting point is 00:24:26 He's got a long way to go. I don't believe he'll ever be an elite sit in the pocket throw guy. I just don't see it. He'll never be a guy that has no running game. and everybody knows they have no running game, and he can just drop back and throw 42 times a game and complete 29 to 32. That's not his game. He's not going to need a great offensive line.
Starting point is 00:24:46 He's not because he can change that pocket and leave it whenever he wants. I do think he needs a real running game so he can throw on second and four, third and two. That's play action. That frees his linebackers. He's going to need real running back help. And I also think he's going to need a big receiver or two to help him, on jump balls because he's not that accurate a thrower. I worry about, he does give you a wow moments.
Starting point is 00:25:12 That run you're watching right there is a wow moment. Baker Mayfield didn't give me a wow moment last night. The one quarterback, the two quarterback, Josh Allen, by the way, in Buffalo had a wow throw to the corner of the end zone that was a rocket. That was a wow moment. Lamar had a run. That was a wow moment. Baker was fine, which is what I said yesterday.
Starting point is 00:25:29 He'll be fine because I think he's going to be fine in the NFL. He's going to be a little better than Case Keenham. That's what he is. That's a ceiling. But with Lamar, I think you have to be realistic. He's going to start before he's ready because he's flashy and fun, and it's a proud city in Baltimore, and the Steelers are pulling away from him. And just like Denver with Kyle Orton, you know, once the Raiders are the Chiefs start pulling away,
Starting point is 00:25:54 rivals start pulling, the town gets restless. And, I mean, Baker last night, or excuse me, Lamar last night was seven for 18. Flacco was perfect. Flacco's had a great camp. He's been a Super Bowl MVP. he's 10 and 5 in playoff games. Flackos had a great camp. He had one drive. He looked great. He was perfect.
Starting point is 00:26:11 Nobody cares. Lamar was 7 for 18. His best pass was a jump ball by a tall wide receiver. He had one little clever run against Vanilla, second team and third team guys, and people went crazy. He's going to start sooner than he's ready for. But you have to taper expectations. There is more than one way to win in this league. You do not want Blake Bortles throwing 30 times.
Starting point is 00:26:30 You don't. Blake Bortles needs a great running back. That's why Tom Coughlin came into the job. Jagson said, let's draft Leonard Fernette. This guy can't be throwing the ball 32 times. He can throw 22 to 26, big running game, so he can throw on third and second and short. There is more than one way to win.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Blake Bortles last year had a great defense and a great running game. Oh, he won 10 games. That's the way he can win. Now, I think eventually you've got to move beyond Blake Bordles if you want to win Super Bowls, because you have to get a quarterback. If you really get the right franchise quarterback, like Brady, like Rod. like Matt Ryan, they can win 10 games when everything's not perfect.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Tim Tebow won six straight games. When the defense was great, the kicking game was amazing with Matt Prider. Tebow won six straight games. Lamar can win games and consecutive games. But I don't think he'll, he's going to have to build this puppy right around him. Give him tall receivers who can go up and catch it. Give him a running game and let him wiggle. Don't take the wiggle away from him.
Starting point is 00:27:33 That's what he is. He had a run last night. He made several guys mess. But this is not going to be Eli Manning, sit in the pocket. It's not going to be Brady. Alex Smith, you got to give Alex certain gifts or it's not going to work. You got to give Bortle certain gifts or it doesn't work. You had to give Tebow virtually every gift to make it sort of work.
Starting point is 00:27:52 With Lamar, give him a running game, let him wiggle a little, tall receivers. He can win. He's not ready yet, but it's not going to matter. Because I'll tell you one thing, I put games on. I could have chosen from all those games last night. I wanted to watch Lamar Jackson. He has a, I want to watch him quality. Want more herd?
Starting point is 00:28:13 The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Jay Glazer is doing his annual training camp tour. Last week, our Fox NFL Insider was at the Rams, the Cowboys, the Browns, the Eagles, and the Steelers. And Jay Glazers is joining us now from New York. What was the most impressive camp, Jay, last week that you stepped foot into?
Starting point is 00:28:38 One step away, but they're just crisp. The Steelers, man, they got it. I think it's a different atmosphere this year, too. That's the work. You train, by the way, Baker Mayfield. And I've heard he's a gamer. What did you make him the guy? It's a mixed martial arts.
Starting point is 00:29:34 It's not for everybody. We just worked on their body. Hands or hips. It's scary. It's scary. And I sent in guys like Chuck. very first day, man, I'm in. Like, it wasn't
Starting point is 00:30:10 like intimidated. He walked wrong. You know, some of these the rookie process. When Jay Glazer is joining us, yeah, I'm, I'm gonna wait to see it. Deshawn Kaiser had a great opening game last year with the Browns. I just kind of, I just, I'm one of those, I'm on hold. I got to wait to see it because they were four and
Starting point is 00:31:01 last year in the preseason. Now, the Dallas camp is... But remember, I'm not talking about... Yeah. A lot of guys come in. In college, college, have to account for all 24 hours your day and figure out how to be a professional. You know, the Rams were really good last year
Starting point is 00:32:05 and they got some young players, but they bring in Indyman and Sue, Akeep Taleb, Marcus Peters. Andy Reid's a pretty tolerant guy. He couldn't take it anymore. So he gave away basically a $1.7 million corner who's as good as anybody in the league. He gave him away.
Starting point is 00:32:20 And I look at the Rams and the coach is still young. Jared Gough is still young. early still young I mean what do you make of the can what do you make of what they did does it all fit the Rams looked at it
Starting point is 00:32:46 feeder down to whoever the youngest guy in that team is he just connects with everybody and he does it the way where he shoots you straight about percent of your time on 10 percent of your roster a lot of time of them that that locker room will be able to police it
Starting point is 00:33:37 you were also at the Cowboys camp which was kind of a little bit chaotic last year and now does it feel like you it is more Dak Prescott's room? It's his team. They're never under the radar. Receivers who are our past.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Yeah. Even with the Dead's thing that happened, somewhere like that in the past, here it just moved on. I think both of you, both of us like Chris Ballard, the GM, and listen,
Starting point is 00:34:40 he, in the draft, he went and fixed that offensive line, the interior of the offensive. Oh, could he ever? Yeah, he got really good. That is a bad man right there.
Starting point is 00:34:47 Yeah. And so I watched Andrew Luck last night, and I, Brady Quinn said earlier, he didn't quite on the deep stuff quite have the zip. I'm not going to make that call. But give me a sense of the anxiety
Starting point is 00:35:00 they dealt with for the last 15 to 18 months. What are they, you know, are they nervous when they wake up today? Are they thinking, God, is Andrew Luxoror? We've got to keep him to 65 practice throws. What's going on with them right now? Yeah, Andrew, too, considering what they've been
Starting point is 00:35:48 through with his shoulder, with his sternum, with... You know the Baltimore people real well. You know, I've always called Lamar Jackson more of a project than a prospect. I mean, to me, Josh Rosen's a prospect. He can play this year. You know, I think with Lamar sometimes, let's not rush him. Like, he's raw to me.
Starting point is 00:36:18 I do think potentially with a running game and the right support, he can work. But some guys take longer in every industry to get there. What do you make? No, I don't think they're rushing them. I think what happens is, look, that guy got this and tried to get it. him, more reps as they go along to, you know, look, we saw last year with the Eagles your backup quarterback, the second most valuable position on that team. We saw with Cowboys when, you know, Dax, you know, Dax's rookie year. They've got to make sure that they have a,
Starting point is 00:37:12 yeah, it's not, I don't think they're looking at Lamar. I think the rest of the world, who he is and is better, you want to jam him right in there. Yeah, it's not. So you're heading to the Falcons. I've got them in the NFC championship, Saints. You do. Yeah, you know, Tell me why. Because I think their offensive line now. Everybody talks about the Cowboys and the Eagles, but the Falcons and the Saints have developed really nice offensive line. I think Sarks in his second year.
Starting point is 00:37:53 This organization, I got a coach I like, a GM I like, a quarterback I like, an offensive line I like. And I got to tell you something, last year, they came within a play, Jay, a Julio Jones corner play of beating Philly on the road. And they would have faced Minnesota, and Minnesota was coming off that win over New Orleans. Right. I think if they win the Philly game, which they were a playaway. By the way, that Philly offense steamrolled Minnesota and New England. They didn't move the ball up and down the field on Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:38:25 I like the Falcons this year. Think about the job, and somehow you have to mind it, even though they're going to say, hey, we're not talking about it anymore. You don't decide. I think it would have done because of your football. Like you're saying also, So the offensive coordinator just didn't seem like they were in rhythm last year and everybody. There's not a lot of Falcons down.
Starting point is 00:39:29 But I do. I think it was Dan Quinn. Better psychologist last year than any psychologist I've ever been to in my life. And Colin, you know me. I got about 19 personalities. I've been to a lot of therapists. Yes. He did a great job.
Starting point is 00:39:41 He did. I really like Atlanta. People down in the South think I don't like Atlanta. But I just feel like it's coming all together this year. And I really think in their own division, we're all caught up in the Saints Young Stars and Cam's always interesting. and the James suspension, even in their own division. They're a little bit under the radar. I really like him.
Starting point is 00:39:59 And Jay Glazer, keep going. Love to have you on the show. He's at the Giants, Falcon, Saints. Texans, have a lot of fun, bud. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it, man. After almost three hours, Colin apparently hasn't gotten to the point yet. Quit holding out on us, cowherd.
Starting point is 00:40:14 It's the best for last. So I was just looking. Everybody always says, okay, Tom Brady's wife's rich, who cares what he makes. but it is pretty absurd if you put it in the context of what's he make compared to other professional athletes. So let's look at the quarterback salaries for the upcoming season. And I don't think most of you are, Jimmy Garoppolo is going to be the highest paid quarterback at $42.5 million. He's Tom Brady's backup six months ago. Alex Smith, who on his best day is not Tom Brady makes $40 million.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Matt Ryan's damn good. He'll make $29.5 million. and Drew Brees, $27 million, a little underpaid. I'm not against anybody making any money, but let's scroll down now and look at where Tom Brady figures in the NFL's hierarchy of quarterback salaries. And if you scroll down here, you find out that Tom Brady is barely making more than Josh Allen of the Buffalo Bills
Starting point is 00:41:14 who's going to make 13-6, in fact, 13-9-65, and Brady makes 15. makes less than Philip Rivers. It's pretty remarkable, right? But I know what you're saying, Colin, his wife is a supermodel. But does Tom Brady, when you look at annual salary compensation, and he's making 15, and Garoppolo is making almost three times more, and Alex Smith is making two and a half times more, does it not bother him at some level? He's a guy.
Starting point is 00:41:48 We're judged by professional careers, network. blah, blah, blah. In fact, if you kind of look comparatively where Tom fits in the NFL, he's making basically the same amount of money as Sam Bradford and Tyrod Taylor. Now, again, this is why I've always said. I understand Tom not wanting to be the highest paid player, but I think he's taking a greater sacrifice than people expect. If my wife was rich, maybe I wouldn't have to be the highest paid sportscaster.
Starting point is 00:42:22 But I'd want to be making significantly more than the overnight guy on ESPN radio. That's essentially what Brady's getting paid like. Put this in another context. Let's compare him to the NBA. Tom Brady in the NBA would rank behind Damari Carroll and Timofa Mawsgoff. And Brady's salary would be tied for the 76 highest in the NBA. I'm not saying he has to be the highest paid guy. He's not even the average paid guy, NBA or NFL.
Starting point is 00:42:59 So I do think it is more substantial than people say. That's our best for last today. Put it in that context. First of all, Alex Smith has a great agent. I like Alex Smith. 40 million for Alex Smith is a lot of money. That is a... Look at what Alex Smith will make in the NFC East 40 million and what Dack Prescott makes for the Cowboys, a bigger brand.
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