The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 08/24/2018

Episode Date: August 24, 2018

Colin says that Baker Mayfield just isn't enough of a QB to have been the #1 pick and Cleveland should have higher expectations even though he has looked decent. He thinks the NFL pre-season is one of five things and sports that makes no sense to him. Plus, Eagles Head Coach Doug Pederson talks with Colin about winning the Superbowl against the Patriots and why its so hard to repeat as champions  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jamie Maggio joining me again. Three straight days on the herd. Great to have you in. So here we go, Jamie. We have an NFL game last night. It was on Fox. It was awful. Hard to watch, right?

Nick Foll, struggle, Tyrod, Taylor got heard, Baker, Mayfield, blah, blah, blah. Let's start with this. Let's start with this. I know what you're thinking this morning. Oh, Colin's just going to rip into it. I mean, Baker Mayfield had a red zone pick. Ooh, that is a no-no. Baker-Mayfield, 49.3 quarterback rating.

Ooh, that's terrible. Five-series, one-field goal for Baker-Mayfield. Those numbers, numbers, numbers, those are not very good numbers, and I don't care at all about numbers. He was a number one pick is the number I'm interested in. When you're a number one pick, I want you to be a Maserati, not a Mazda. Baker's a Mazda in the NFL. He looked overwhelmed physically.

He doesn't have a great arm, couldn't outrun a lineman. Nothing wrong with a Mazzar. Mazda. I've driven a Mazda. I like Mazda. But you pay $85,000 for a car. That's a number one pick. You pay $85,000. You bragging about the cup holder. You br-honey, we got cruise control. Honey, honey, honey, we got power steering. You paid $85,000, bra. You better be able to have automatic start. When you're making coffee in the kitchen, you push your key fob. That big. baby starts. So when you walk out in Cleveland weather, it is warm and toasty in that car. You better have sensors on the front and back.

You better have a large display screen. You better have those large black rims. That's what $85,000 is. $85,000, number one pick. That's what Cam Newton is. That's what Andrew Luck is. That's what Carson Wentz, a number two pick looks like. Okay, that's my whole point.

The only number I care about is he's a number one. pick. If you don't get wow moments from your quarterback in the first time you see in a football field, then you made the wrong pick. Then take a pass rusher, take a running back. Okay, I can make an argument. Saquan Barkley's not a number one pick, but you're going to get wow moments from him. That guy that Denver got, Bradley Chubb, you're going to get some wow moments. That's what you get with the number one pick. You pay $85,000 for a car. Don't brag about a cup holder. You're all race. Your standards are so low in Cleveland.

You're racing to Twitter. Ooh. Ooh. Look at that slant pattern. That's the minimum. That's not what you brag about. If you pay $1,200 for a hotel room, I'd better get a jacuzzi on a balcony

overlooking either the Pacific or the Atlantic Ocean. If I pay $1, 270 bucks for a hotel room, I'm not going to go, hey honey we got free HBO that's the minimum you get that for 150 bucks a night maybe even showtime

maybe even Netflix come on man this is my whole point on Baker Mayfield that number one pick has got to be wow now his career may not last forever because he gets injured maybe he's not as great as everybody he thought he would be, but a number one pick is a wow pick.

Like when you watch the games, last night, Fletcher Cox treated Baker Mayfield like a stuffed animal. He was a little tiny. Could have fit him in his glove compartment. That's what I said about Baker Mayfield. He's going to be fine in this league. You can win games with Baker Mayfield. But is there a big gap with Baker and Tyrod Taylor?

Does anybody think Tyrod Taylor would have been a number one pick? Anybody think Case Keenham would have been a number one pick? No. I like Teddy Bridgewater. You're not a number one pick. You've got to give me big, big arm. So, I mean, I think what's happening in Cleveland is that Cleveland Brown fan self-esteem is so low. Their standards are so low.

They just want a car that runs, that doesn't stall on the freeway driving to work, that lasts the entire lease. But when you watch Carson Wentz and Deshawn Watson, you are getting wow moments for those young guys. I mean, Carson Wentz, when he came into this league, they played him in one preseason game in Philadelphia, then they never played him again. And then he opened up week one, two touchdown,

270 yards, and they're won. I mean, they put him on the shelf. They're like, here's Carson Wentz. Holy good Lord, never played him rest of the preseason. when you draft the guy number one like a Carson Wentz or a number two like a Carson Wentz I want wow they draft Carson Wentz they were the pits they were reeling

two years later he's borderline MVP he's in their Super Bowl remember what Bucky Brooks said on the couch here remember what Bucky Brooks said a couple days ago on the couch here it was when you take someone in the top 10 for instance you've talked about Baker Mayfield being number one overall

and the expectation the standard is different when you take somebody in the top 10 the expectation is that guy is going to be the best at his position within the first two to three years of his career. He's going to be a top three or top four player at his position. Do you see that with Baker? No, you don't. You are literally rushing to Twitter

because he completed a slant pattern. Congrats on the cup holder. Congrats on free HBO. Have higher standards. Let me shift to this. Tom Brady's trainer, Alex Guerrero, banned from the team plane a year ago. Well, well, well, is back on the team plane. Let's see in the last year, Tom Brady said,

Jimmy Garoppolo, I want him out of town. They trade him. Tom Brady said, OTAs, that's for everybody else. I'm going to skip them. Alex Guerrero, we're going to set a precedent. I get my guy in the plane. Win, win, win. Folks, this is sports in 2018.

Tom Brady should get all of those. He should get all of those. We give NBA stars those. We're not going to give the greatest football player in the league one of those. Tom Brady has earned the right to special treatment. We give special treatment on Wall Street. We give it in politics. We give it in corporate America.

We give it in the NBA. Whoa. We don't give it to the best football player in the last 10 years in America. He has earned it. He's not a guy that doesn't put in the time. He's not a guy you can't trust. He's not a guy that blows up locker rooms. when you've had power your entire life,

it's hard to surrender it. The NBA has a much easier time allowing Stars special treatment because the NBA has always been a player's league so coaches don't walk in with the fist in the gavel. The NFL, though, no guaranteed contracts, has always always run the league through its coaches and GMs. But the world's changing.

Players want to talk politics. Players want to be empowered. Players want to have massive charities. Players go to play with other players. Players leave the town they grew up in. Players chase not just money but rings and community. Why is the NBA and its fans so comfortable with that? And why is the NFL and its fans so uncomfortable with it?

The NFL, it's 2018. Tom Brady is like, hey, Jimmy Garoppolo, get him out of here. LeBron could do that. OTAs, all pass. LeBron could do that. Trainer, get him in the plane next to me. LeBron could do that. You know, when the stepdad or the dad rules the family with an iron fist.

My way of the highway. And then his son gets a job and does really well, maybe in tech. And by 24 years old, he makes more a year than dad's made in the last 10. And he doesn't have to listen to Dad. Dad looks old and out of place. Kind of silly. Everybody kind of whispers about Dad. Bill Belichick's figured it out because Bill Belichick's really smart.

Bill Belichick let him skip. OTAs didn't make a big deal out of it. Bill Belichick, let him put Alex Guerrero right back on the plane and has not made a big deal out of it because Bill Belichick's smart. This is the minimum for

the greatest football player that has played this game in 15 years. There has been no more impactful, important player. Even players, NFL Network has a poll every year. Players vote Tom number one. This year, players voted Aaron Rogers like, if I recall,

call like eight or 10. This is not pampering, by the way. Tom Brady is not being pampered. This is called extending your career. I know you're looking at it thinking, wins for Tom, wins for Tom in your face, Belichick. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is 2018.

This is what the best player in a league, including the NFL, should be allowed to get. a top trainer on the plane, a threat at quarterback instead of a draft pick to help the great quarterback, and he should not have to go to OTAs, nor should that guy ever have to play in preseason though Brady wants to because he's got a bunch of new receivers. These are not outrageous claims. These are not outrageous asks. It's 2018.

Give Bill Belichick credit. He's figured it out. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the I Heart Radio app. Jason Whitlock and I used to always argue about this. He's like, Nick Fools, you got guys going to challenge Carson Wence. And I'm like, no, he's not. Carson Wince is a world-class talent. Carson Wens is changing the league. Carson Wentz is going to be all-time stuff. Nick Foles is like a great backup. He's a C-plus. guy. You can put him in as a spot starter. He's been terrible in the preseason. He was terrible

against New England. He was terrible last night. But his career numbers, he's an 87 passer rating guy. He's won 22 games. He's lost 17. He completes about 60 percent, which is a minimum in this league. He's got 60 touchdowns and 30 picks. He's a guy. I mean, he's good enough to play in the NFL. He was a nice college starter. I mean, he had a great game in the Super Bowl. But he's been really good with Doug Peterson. brief time with Chip Kelly. Those are exceptional offensive coaches. But, I mean, a lot of guys, folks, a lot of NBA players have scored 28 points in the game. Kobe Bryant did it every night, being double-teamed, being trapped, being game planned against. Kobe Bryant did it every night for 15 years. A lot of guys score 28 occasionally every other week. Roger Maris hit 61 home runs

in baseball once. It was a record that stood for decade after decade after decade after decade, until the steroids. But Roger Maris was never a 300 hitter. He had a great year. There was a guy in baseball named Adam Kennedy that I think won the ALCS MVP. He had three homers in a game. Adam Kennedy never hit more than 13 in the season.

He had a great series. There's a big difference between having a great Super Bowl and being a great quarterback. Carson Wentz is a great talent and a great quarterback talent with a great arm and great size and great legs. Nick Flows is a guy. who had a great Super Bowl and has had a couple of great months.

He's not a great quarterback. There's no battle for supremacy here in Philadelphia. Don't fall in love. Remember when LeBron got all those new players? Remember at the trading deadline where the Lakers made a trade? And that first night together, they were great. And a month later, it's like Jordan Clarkson's $13 million a year. He can't play.

A million people do this for a living. you can have a good segment. Everybody sounds good on Monday on a television show that talks sports during the NFL season. Try Tuesday in August. Okay, great is, Nick Foles is inconsistent.

If you're great once a week, you know what they say about you in basketball? God, such a head case. You never know what you're going to get. That's what great once every two weeks is in sports. It's not a good word. It's a bad word. It's a word that gets coaches fired.

God, you never know what you're going to get from the guy. He's totally inconsistent. That's what Nick Foles is. Carson Wentz, four to five games. Holy God, what is that? Okay, so the people fall in love. A restaurant can have a good night. Are they good every night?

That's great. So when I watch Nick Foles, I'm like, yeah, that's Nick Foles. He has games like that. You know, I mean, before Chip Kelly came, he was done. He was thinking about retiring. And if the Eagles didn't get Doug Peterson, Doug Peterson's taking him to a new level. When he gets the right coach that uses some of his skills,

he can succeed, but he's not special. You're not, you're not got your building around. But again, he's made the NFL. He's made plays. But the difference between great and a guy is doing it every night. Think about Kobe Bryant. He's double-teamed every night, trapped every night, game planned against every night for 18 years.

He averages 28, it's 16. seen his last game. Everybody in the league's trying to figure out how to stop Kevin Durant. Ten years in the can't. LeBroad can't stop him. That's great. When Kauai Leonard was healthy, you're getting 24 a night in great defense. That's great.

But you'll have nights when, you know, you watch an NBA game Tuesday in Denver, guy gets hot, hits back to back to back three, he ends up with 24 points. He's a guy. Just an inconsistent guy. Again, they're all pro athletes, so they're all amazing. but, you know, I don't know, the confusion with Nick Foles, I can't believe what happened last night. I can. I've watched him play every game. I watched them in college. This is what you get. Hey, what's up? This John Middlecock from the three and out podcast, brought to you live by the Colin Coward Podcast Network.

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And now, finally, the smart people in the NFL are realizing what is the point of playing Jerry. at Goff and Todd Gurley. Okay. They have these things in the NFL. There's no reason for the preseason. They have these things in the NFL called joint practices. Bill O'Brien had one a couple of days ago. He said, yeah, we just ran about 150 plays in two days in 100 degree heat.

Yeah, that's pretty good work. In joint practices, here's the kind of a crazy thing. Nobody hits your quarterback. In joint practices, because you're just playing one team and it's not televised, coaches are willing to do all sorts of exotic packages they won't televise during the preseason. So you actually, I could argue, get more work done and nobody gets hit, you know, like your quarterback. It's amazing to me. There's five things in sports that I just don't get that if you were dropped on this planet out of a spaceship and introduced to sports, here's the five things that make no sense.

Number one, the NFL preseason. For the record, we're just eight days away from no. Notre Dame facing Michigan. 19-year-olds, no preseason, no joint practice, massive practice limitations, multiple teenagers, and they'll do just fine. What is the point of the preseason? Last night, Cleveland, Philly, three guys got hurt.

San Francisco, five guys got hurt. Minnesota had six guys get hurt. What are we doing here? They're called joint practices. You have grown men, veterans, 28. college football doesn't have it with teenagers. And when Auburn plays Washington in eight days and Notre Dame plays Michigan in eight or nine days, and those games mean more because if you go all in one in college football,

it can ruin your season. It can upend your season. What are we doing with preseason? What are we doing? Finally guys in this league, Breeze, Ben, Rogers, golf, get them out of there. No reason to play. Here's number two. Major League Baseball.

162 games, an utter marathon, and then the playoffs start with a one-game playoff. What? So the whole thing about baseball is a marathon, and then when the game really counts, it's a 40-yard dash. So I prove all year I'm superior to you, and then because, you know, pitching matchups, I have to win a game late in the season to get in. I have to use a number two or a three starter. or you get your ace and you beat me even though, what? Major League Baseball, first of all, your season's too long. It should be 120 games max.

But secondly, how do you have 162 games, many that don't matter? And when they finally do, it's a one-game playoff. I would be much more comfortable with a one-game basketball playoff. We do that in college. I would be okay with one-game football playoffs. But in baseball, baseball is not a one-game sport. One game doesn't mean anything. You've had literally they used to send a major league baseball all-star team overseas to play in tournaments,

and they would lose to a Japanese all-star team. And they're not as good as our all-star team, but in a game, one air, a pitching matchup doesn't work for you. That doesn't make any sense. Number three, that doesn't make any sense in sports to me is the imbalance in college football schedule. It's absurd. In college football in the SEC, Alabama, Emma has to only play eight conference games, meaning they get to play another cupcake. But in the Big Ten or the Pack 12, you have to play nine conference games.

You may say to yourself, well, it's just one more game. You don't think it's an advantage not having to play Georgia one year, whereas Michigan has to play Wisconsin. You do realize in the Big Ten, there's like seven legitimate teams now at the top. You don't think it would be an advantage not having to play Ohio State, not having to play. not having to play Michigan State on the road in East Lansing, not having to play Michigan, not having to go play Penn State on the road Saturday night. You don't think that would be an advantage.

You don't think it'd be a disadvantage of, oh, Nick, you just had to go to row on LSU. Oh, next week you got to go to the road on Georgia. Oh, but no, you don't have to in certain conferences because you get a buy week or play Panera bread. Come on, college football. Eight or nine games for everybody in the Power Fives. Here's another thing in sports,

don't get. How about this one? Fighting in hockey. Literally, you're dropped from a spaceship to the planet and you watch a sport. Can you imagine in any other sport? Hey, they dropped their gloves. There's a fist fight. And the officials were like, yeah, you guys go at it. Go ahead, LeBron, Kevin Durant, keep throwing haymakers. Go ahead, J.J. Watt, Joe Thomas. You guys keep throwing haymakers. We'll just sit back here and watch it. What are you doing? I mean, it's absurd. I know non-hockey guy loves the toughness of it.

Listen, hockey is tough without fighting. Ever been checked into the boards? You ever played one of those shifts against the top physical defensemen? Hockey's tough without fist fights. And what's number five? Major League Baseball allows you to throw a small orb at a man's head for a variety of reasons. He hit a home run off me.

I'm going to throw a ball at his eye. He jogged too slowly around the bases after jacking a ball off my crappy slider. I get a throw at him. What? Automatic ejection. If you make the major leagues, how about this?

And a guy hits a home run off you. if you at any point in that season hit him, it's an ejection automatically. You're a major league pitcher. You're a major league pitcher. If Tom Brady with people chasing him can throw only five interceptions in a year, then a major league pitcher can avoid throwing at somebody's temple.

These are the five things I do not get in American sports. The NFL preseason, one game baseball playoff, imbalanced college football schedules, fighting in hockey, and allowing people to throw at other people. Because, you know, I didn't like the pace he ran around the bases. Ah. Doesn't make any sense.

Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays at noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. This is one of my favorite times of the year. Late August. My kids are in school. The house gets quieter. And I can just, I love watching these preseason. games. I was with a buddy of mine last night, Ryan

Rissillo. Congrats to him, just signed with the ringer. Good dude, and we're watching football and we're talking about quarterbacks. I love this time of the year. I'm going to have a guest on in five minutes whose dad was on a Super Bowl staff who I've relied on for years. I heard about him in local radio years ago, Lance Zerline, now

NFL draft analyst, NFL.com, one of the sharpest guys out there. And I bring him on a couple times a year. Just love his work, and we're going to talk about all these young quarterbacks. This is a very exciting time for you as a consumer. You know, five of these teams have new quarterbacks, and we have a history in this league where guys get drafted in the third, like Russell Wilson, they become Hall of Fame talents. Deshawn Watson went way too

low. I mean, this is fun. If you love college football and I do, and you love the NFL, then you have to love the draft. And this is kind of the first presentation for all of us publicly of the draft. Like, who's worth the pick? And I've told you before, I think Nick Chubb has a chance to be rookie of the year. I think everybody's paying attention to Baker. I think Nick Chubb was underdrafted, and he's going to be a great player at running back for Cleveland. But I want to say this, Odell Beckham, apparently it looks like the Giants are renegotiating him and getting him a big contract. Now, for years and years, I have said, I am not a big believer in giving big money to wide receivers because there's no scarcity of it. College football gives you a ton of

them. And I don't see where big numbers for Odell Beckham translate to big money. wins. I've said before, if I could take five players to start my franchise, knowing they'd all be great. I'd take a quarterback, a left tackle, a pass rusher, an elite corner, and then I'd either go back to the offensive line or an interior defensive lineman like Aaron Donald. Those are my five guys. I'm not by the sixth pick. I think I'd go and try to get another corner or a great Mike linebacker in the middle. I'm not a big believer in wide receivers, but I've also been somebody that I've said for years, there's no nobility in stubborn. When information presents itself, you have to change. There's a reason pilots reroute. There's a reason they created Google Maps. There's an accident

in the freeway. Take an exit. I'm not one of these guys. I hear it all the time calling you flip-flop. No, I read a lot. And when I get new information, I have new opinions. There's no value to me to give you an old stubborn opinion. Right now in the NBA, the mid-range jump, has very little value, shoot threes. And the people who have adapted early to that, like Daryl Morey, LeBron James, Golden State, are winning titles and getting to the finals. The Boston Celtics are very good adapters on the three ball. And so I don't love wide receivers, but we got two things going on here.

Okay, we got a catch rule that's just been tweaked. That is a pro-wide receiver rule now. We're going to have 400 catches this year. many of them touchdowns that are going to be allowed that weren't allowed for the last decade. And I think Andy Reid sees that and says, give me Sammy Watkins. And I think less need of the Rams sees that and says, get me Brandon Cooks. And so that's number one. We got a rule change.

It is a pro-wide receiver rule change. The second thing we have is a helmet rule is going to be enforced. It's not necessarily change, but it's going to be enforced. What does that mean? Automatic first down. You don't think that's going to result in. field goals and touchdowns. We have two major

rule tweaks. They are both very pro-wide receiver. That's why I had Bucky Brooks on the other day. He talked about who's getting the big money this offseason. Right now it's about the three-ps. Passers, playmakers, and passcatchers. Teams are no longer investing big money and defensive stars

because they know you can outscore people and win significant games. Just follow the money in the offseason. Follow the money. Earl Thomas can't it. Aaron Donald can't get it. Khalil Mack can't get it. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app.

Search herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Coach of the Philadelphia Eagles, Doug Peterson. So you're probably not happy last night, and I read your quotes this morning. You weren't happy with Nick Foles. But then you wake up this morning, Doug, and you watch the film. So as a consumer, I watch you. You don't have your running backs. You didn't have several of them.

A couple of defensive guys are out. You don't have like a left tackle Jason Peters. You don't have a wide receiver. I'm watching and I'm thinking, what do I give a rip? They're well coached. They'll be good. What am I supposed to take with that performance last night? What do I take from it?

You really don't take much from it, quite honestly. And, you know, my comments, too, after the game were not directed at Nick Foles. It was directed more at the offense. And, you know, part of our success was last year. was not about one guy. It was about the entire team. So I just felt like our offensive performance in the first half. I mean, we had six possessions. We had two interceptions, two fumbles. We had a sack safety, and then we had a turnover on downs. And, you know, that you just can't, that's unacceptable in the National Football League to have six possessions with that kind of result. So it's more about

the offensive performance, but just like you alluded to in the beginning, we're without many of our starters on offense. And it's hard to get into any kind of kind of a rhythm or, you know, to get our quarterback in any kind of rhythm. I see the Rams don't want to play golf. They don't want to play Gurley. You know, Drew Breeze doesn't want to play. Big Ben doesn't want to play in the preseason. I don't love the preseason.

I'd rather see the Eagles play seven joint practices where your quarterbacks don't get hit. You played in this league. In fact, you're one of only four people in league history who's been a Super Bowl, winners, a player, as a coach, Dittka is one of those guys. I think Tom Flores, Tony Dungy. This preseason, when you're a lot of. sitting there and you're writing out your lineups. Is there part of you, Doug, that is thinking to yourself, I don't want to play this guy. It's preseason. I don't want to get him hurt.

I mean, that has to go through your mind, doesn't it? Well, it does. Any coach in this league thinks about that, you know, in preseason. You don't, you don't want to get any of your starters banged up, hurt, where they either miss a practice, a game, or possibly the start of the regular season. So, you know, it definitely crosses your mind, but at the same time, you're still trying to work timing. You're still trying to work execution, you know, and you're trying to see certain guys in certain situations, and it can be a little difficult at times to get that accomplished. Yeah. If you could have more joint practices in two or a few preseason games, you could vote today. You were the deciding vote. Would you

vote for that? I would. I would. And being a former player, too, I think that the joint practice is really bring out the best in the competition. You really see what you have. We did it a year ago with Miami Dolphins and Adam Gason had two really good practices in Philadelphia. And then, of course, we played them, you know, that week. But I think the league is leaning towards the joint practices. I really do. I don't like the fighting that's going on, though. That has to be addressed.

But at the same time, I think you can get some quality work done against another opponent during training camp because training camp is obviously long and still get some good work done for your starters. By the way, Nick Foles is certainly good enough to start for a handful of teams. I don't believe he is Carson Wentz, who's maybe the best young quarterback, well, since Andrew Luck, I would say. And both Andrew and he, a little dinged up, both coming back to Sean Watson's obviously young and very talented. But, you know, when you kind of look at a Nick Foles, he decided to stay in Philly. And a lot of people are like, well, why didn't he go make a bunch of money? Can you take me inside that? Because he's going to be, if he doesn't start, he's the best

backup in the league. Well, and that's the thing is, is, you know, go back to 2012 when I was on Andy Reed staff, and we drafted Nick Foles and brought him into Philadelphia. And then, of course, I leave and go to Kansas City, and now I have a chance to come back. And I have a chance to bring Nick Foles back. And he wanted to come back and be apart and be sort of tied in with me again and be reunited with me again. And then after the season we had last year, there was really no. you know, really not a hard decision to make.

Nick wanted to stay in Philadelphia. He felt comfortable in Philadelphia. He understood his role. He knew he was, you know, a backup a year ago, possibly going to be a backup again this year, and he's comfortable in that role. So he's excited. Yeah, he could have probably gone and, you know,

made a lot of money. But you know what? I think where he's at in his career right now, it'd have to be the right situation, the right team in order for that to happen. and fortunately for us, I feel like we got one of the best quarterback rooms in the league. You did something during the Super Bowl. You know, there's been a handful of plays in Super Bowl history that are just iconic.

I always think I'm old enough. I remember the Lynn Swan catch against the Cowboys and Mark Washington. You know, it's slow mo and Bradshaw throws it down the field. And there are a handful of these. You did a play called the Philly Special. It's fourth. It's going into halftime. And it's one of the great plays of all time.

I got to tell you, though, when you watch that, and you go to the sidelines and Nick Folles says, coach, let's run Philly Special. Was there part of you that thought, oh, yoy, yoy, if this thing doesn't go right, this is going to end up being on a blooper tape somewhere. Colin, I never, it never once crossed my mind that thought. When he suggested the play, I didn't bat an eye.

I had so much confidence in what he suggested. I had so much confidence in the guys executed. the play that I just looked up and locked eyes with him and said, that's it. That's the, that's the play we're going with. And, and it was the right time. Great opportunity on, you know, on the one yard line, fourth and goal in the Super Bowl. And, you know, and Colin, listen, I didn't, I had no fear about calling the play. I trusted my players in executing that play. And, and obviously it worked to perfection. How many times you do that in practice? 10, 20, 30. I mean, when did you wrap it up? When did it? I mean, the conception.

of it. Yeah, so go back. We played the Minnesota Vikings in the conference championship, you know, two weeks prior to the Super Bowl. And we actually put the play in that week. I was hoping to get it called in the Minnesota game and didn't get it called. But I can remember the first three times that we called it in practice, Trey Burton airmailed the ball over Nick's head with, and Trey's a former high school quarterback. He's a baseball player at the University of Florida, which is a tremendous athlete. And he just, he airmailed the ball over Nick's head, first three times. And I'm thinking, there's no way I can call this play. I have no confidence in this

play. And we just kept working it and working it and working it. And then we kept it in for the Super Bowl. And, you know, again, it just worked. It worked to perfection. God, that's incredible. So when you, you know, I'm watching all these young quarterbacks. And I've said before, when you give me a number one or a number two picket quarterback, nothing against the Mazda, but I want a Maserati. I want to, I want a Cam. I want a luck. I want a wince. Go back to Carson Wentz because you get the job and you guys, there was a little chaos, and then you take over the organization and you're riding the ship and you guys get Carson Wentz. Was there a moment for you, coach, a practice, a moment, a tape, a drive home when you just knew,

oh, God, this kid's special. There was a moment in training camp that year, our first year, where he alluded to rush and did one of his sort of that Washington, remember the clip of the Washington Reds? Redskins last year, opening day. He made that amazing scramble where he kind of duck and spun out. Well, he did one of those type of moves in training camp his first year as a rookie and completed the ball down the field. And at that point, you're just kind of going, this kid's got something to him.

He's going to be a special kid in this league, a special talent and a mighty fine quarterback. And, you know, of course, he was young then and he continued to grow and he got so much better last year and he's continuing to grow and getting stronger. And, you know, sky's the limit with this guy. And I'm just so excited that we were able to pick him as my first quarterback in my first draft two years ago. By the way, your buddy Andy Reid doesn't have a Super Bowl. You've been coaching for an hour and a half and you got a Super Bowl.

And I know Andy loves you and has so much respect and call the owner of the Eagles and said, hire this guy. And it's not that long ago you were playing. And you got a new book out called Fearless. So I said this yesterday on the show, and I was kind of poking at you. And everybody at Fox defended you. And I said, listen. I said, Doug Peterson's just a kid.

He's just got out of playing. And now he's got a book out. And Philadelphia is talking a bunch. And blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, man, they're making a lot of noise. Do you worry that these teams, they don't go back to back to the Super Bowl. People get, people can get lazy. People, you know, do you?

worried, Doug, of all the spotlight and all the parades, and now everybody's talking about the Eagles, how do you make sure you're totally focused and you feel like an underdog at camp? Well, you know, the biggest thing for me is exactly that, the underdog mentality. And I think one of the things that I've got, I've got two things going for me that really helped me keep this team grounded and rooted. And one is I've got about five or six players on my team right now that are coming off of injury. I got Jason Peters, Darren Sprouls, Chris Marigose, Jordan Hicks, I got Carson Wentz. I got these guys coming off of injury that were starters for us a year ago that missed out on that game. They're coming back with a hunger, with a drive, with a motivation

to try to get the Eagles back to that game again this year, and it keeps the team, keeps the team grounded. The second thing that I feel I've got going for me is I went into back-to-back Super Bowls as a player in Green Bay. You know, we beat the Patriots. in Super Bowl 31 and then went back again in Super Bowl 32 as the favorites against the Denver Broncos. And I remember we lost that Super Bowl. And I remember so many things about that game and really the events leading up to that game. And, you know, the things that, you know, you feel a little bit of confident, a little bit

full of yourself, you kind of read your press clippings a little bit. And I just sort of said, hey, this year, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to allow myself to do that. I'm not going to allow this team to do that. And I saw it during OTAs, Colin, where we had everybody but two players at attending every one of our OTA practices. The only two were Michael Bennett and Darren Sprouls, two veteran players that, you know what, they've played a lot of football in this league. They're Pro Bowl players. I get it.

If they don't want to be there, that's fine. Everybody else was there, the Fletcher Cox, you know, Malcolm Jenkins, all these guys were there and working. And so that was a real indicator for me that this team is humble. They're hungry and they're ready to defend the championship this season. His book is called Fearless. There's the picture of it, how an underdog becomes a champion. Well, good luck to you. It is between you and Howie and Carson Wentz.

This is a leadership league. You got it rolling. You've got some veteran players coming back. Doug, I love that you took 15 minutes for our show today. Thank you so much. Colin, thank you so much for having me on. The book is fearless, how an underdog becomes a champion. You know, I'm watching that, I'm watching that Philly Special play.

And God, I mean, that's how it, seriously, the throw was perfect, that handoff was perfect. The fact that in practice he had concerns, and then in the moment of crisis, they run it perfect. The throw is perfect. Yeah, the Saints onside kick. Now, that is, that was crazy. Yeah, no, I mean, that, the. The problem with trick plays, now remember, this is a fourth down. If you sail it over his head in a second, nobody remembers that play if you score.

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