The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 08/29/2018

Episode Date: August 29, 2018

Colin's new favorite player is Malcolm Jenkins because he is the only player on the Eagles not focused on last season's accomplishment. He thinks Hard Knocks has made the Browns look extremely bad. ...Plus, Super Bowl Champion and former Defensive Player of the Year James Harrison comes in studio to talk about Aaron Rodgers getting a new deal and why he hates Hard Knocks. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:27 This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah, this is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening live in Los Angeles, Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1, Joy Taylor is joining me on a Wednesday. I am so fired up today. Good morning. Good morning, Joy. It is, you know, we know college football starts.
Starting point is 00:02:57 weekend. We have the final preseason game, which doesn't mean a lot except for maybe some of these rookie quarterbacks will play. Certain cities think I don't like them. Oklahoma thinks I don't like them because I'm banging on Baker Mayfield. And Russell Westwood. Russell West. He hates Oklahoma. It's like, no, it just happens you have two guys I've been critical of.
Starting point is 00:03:18 Philadelphia thinks I hate him. Even though I used to cover Jay Wright, I love Villanova. Duke and Villanova, my favorite college basketball programs in Gonzaga. And I also loved Andy Reid who was there. But I think now my favorite player in the NFL is a Philadelphia Eagle. Malcolm Jenkins. The Eagles have put in their locker room a huge sign in their locker room.
Starting point is 00:03:49 It says Super Bowl 52 champions, a big sign. And Malcolm Jenkins came out yesterday and said, I hate it. I am way beyond celebrating last year's accomplishments. They don't mean anything. We're at the bottom just like everybody else. God, I love Malcolm Jenkins. Memo to Philadelphia and all you other teams that win a singular title. The minute the parade ends, five minutes later, go to a film room.
Starting point is 00:04:25 because that trophy doesn't do your prep. In fact, I would say it inhibits your prep. The teams we talk about in sports, 30 years later, 50 years later, Bill Walsh's 49ers, the 70 Steelers, Showtime Lakers, New England Dynasty will be talked about in 30 years. Michael Jordan's Bulls, that lasted a decade. You know who we thought we were going to talk about? Seattle Seahawks. They won a big Super Bowl.
Starting point is 00:04:59 And then they got chatty and cocky and political and fractured and ripped their quarterback in ESPN the magazine. And you know what Seattle is? One more Super Bowl than the Detroit Lions have. Ooh, congratulations. Philadelphia. While you're congratulating yourself, you do realize in your own state, Steelers have six. You have one.
Starting point is 00:05:30 In your own division, you're a laughing stock. The cowboys have five. The giants have four. The Redskins have three. The Eagles have one. In your own city. Villanova is the current dynasty. You're not.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Here's what you are, Philadelphia. slightly better now than the Jags, the Titans, the Lions, and the Arizona Cardinals. Why don't you throw another parade? That's all you are. But your coach has got a book. And Lane Johnson's calling out everybody like the Patriots, a real dynasty. And you got a banner in your locker room. And Malcolm Jenkins is like, pass, hard pass.
Starting point is 00:06:22 This is why I always supported Malcolm Jenkins in all this anthem stuff because he wasn't divisive. He was a grown-up. He had opinions. He had causes he cared about, but he handled it like a man. He wasn't trying to pick fights. He was trying to get things solved. It's why I like him. This is how adults talk.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Remember, Lane Kiffin was on my show earlier this week. And he addressed the rumors that Alabama cheat, Sabin, Cheats, Sabin, Cheat, oh, he's got all the best players. He must cheat. And here's what Lane Kiffin said. I used to sit in staffing as a head coach, and an assistant coach would lose a player to another program. They say, oh, they cheated. You know, they bought the player. People just say that to take blame off of, okay, why did we lose the player?
Starting point is 00:07:05 You know, could we have done something better in the recruiting process to sign the player? So we're just going to say someone else cheated because, you know, that makes us look better. People saying, Nick Saban, well, it's like cheating because he has better players than everyone. well, they didn't just walk. They just didn't walk onto campus and through the doors. You know, he spent time getting them. He's the best recruiter in the world because of the time that he spends. The only cheating they do is that he just works harder than everybody else.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Yeah. Nick Saban's got, what, five, six national titles. I lost count. I told the story a couple years ago. He won a national championship. He was running off the field. He ran into the locker room. And he went over to his agent, Jimmy Sout.
Starting point is 00:07:48 I have this document and he said to Jimmy Sexton, all right, this isn't easy. This just puts more pressure on us for next year. That's how winners think. That's how legends think. Philadelphia, though, got big banner in the locker room. Hey, we're better than the Lions. We got one more than the Jags. Okay, we thought Seattle was going to roll.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Because Seattle like Philadelphia. As a good coach. Seattle like Philadelphia. Had a great all-time quarterback. Wins and Russell Wilson, those are Hall of Fame talents. Seattle had a great defense like Philadelphia. Seattle was in a division where they had a rival in San Francisco, but they were better than them and were going to dominate them.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And Seattle is now just dysfunctional. I mean, when I think of Seattle right now, I'm like, that's what I think. They're just dysfunctional. Malcolm Jenkins should be noted. Adrian Brody won an Oscar. and Rich Beam want to major in golf. You want to be Jack?
Starting point is 00:08:56 Want to be Tiger? Or just want to be a guy? So fired up today. You should like that, Joy, because you grew up a Steeler fan. Oh, I love that. Not an Eagles fan. I love that. No, it's right, though.
Starting point is 00:09:12 It's why it's so hard to repeat. Especially, you're always talking about teams that have nicknames and catchphrases. Saxonville. They had a whole. gimmick going on last year with the dog masks and they're the underdogs and no one gives them any chance. And I mean, I admittedly didn't give them a chance against the Patriots, but that's got to go now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Now you have to. Yeah, dog masks were adorable. Bring them out on Halloween, then put them away and win football games. You're not the underdog anymore. No, now you're the target. Let me shift gears to this. Some people just have more influence for a variety of reasons. You know, Jerry Jones, when he first came into this league, you know, there's a cowboys.
Starting point is 00:09:51 was this cocky oil man, this risk taker, him and Jimmy fighting, him and Parcells fighting. But I will say this over time, Jerry Jones has incredible influence in the National Football League. For years and my entire life, I used to live in Vegas. My entire life, the NFL is like, no, we don't do point spreads. Vegas is evil. No good. We can't talk Vegas. A couple years ago, Jerry Jones is like, I think it's about time to have a football franchise in Las Vegas.
Starting point is 00:10:20 and what do you know two months later they voted and Las Vegas is going to get the Raiders that was Jerry because for 50 years my entire life I lived in Vegas every time you brought it up no that's good
Starting point is 00:10:37 we don't even know what betting lines are we don't excuse me nobody bets football we don't want to discuss Jerry's like I like Vegas it's time for Vegas they moved to Vegas by the way Los Angeles went a lot of years without the NFL. Rams Raiders gone.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Then Jerry talked to his buddy staying cronkey. He said, we're becoming an entertainment sport. We're a TV show more than a game. We've got to get to Los Angeles. Los Angeles. Remember he said that on the show one time? Didn't you love the way Jerry said that? Los Angeles.
Starting point is 00:11:15 Los Angeles. And suddenly the Rams didn't have a team and Los Angeles had a team. Jerry's got influence. Des Bryant, let me segue out of this. Des Bryant doesn't have a team. Doug Baldwin of the Seahawks yesterday, I won't be healthy. They're a mess at wide receiver. The New England Patriots, did they cut another receiver yesterday?
Starting point is 00:11:36 Are desperate at wide receiver. The Cleveland Browns are desperate for talent. The Jags just lost Marquise Lee. Des Bryant this morning admitted. yeah, I'll probably play a little bit later in the year. Brown's pass, Patriots pass, Jags pass. I think this is Jerry Jones' influence. Jerry's not doing it to be mean-spirited,
Starting point is 00:12:01 but when Jerry talks, people listen. And Jerry Jones has always been player-friendly, a bit of an enabler, looks often the other way. And Jerry Jones, and Des can still play. He had 850 yards last year and six touchdowns. He can still play. May not be a one, but he can certainly be a two in a lot of teams.
Starting point is 00:12:22 And when Jerry said, we're going to get him out of the building. With the Cowboys' Current Wide Receiving Group, with Jason Witten on retirement, with all that, having no receivers, Alan Hearns and Cole Beasley, Jerry's like, we're going to move him out of the building. when Jerry talks about Vegas, Los Angeles, and Jerry was talking there, this guy's a lot, he's a lot of work. That's Jerry's influence. Now, I'm not saying Jerry did it on purpose. Maybe Jerry, and this would be strange, but doesn't quite even understand how much influence he has.
Starting point is 00:13:00 But I've watched this guy, Dallas is dying for a star receiver, a big presence. Des can still play, all-time franchise leader in touchdowns. Again, Des isn't Julio Jones. He's not Antonio Brown, Odell Beckham, but the dude can play 850 yards and six touchdowns last year with a young quarterback who battled an offensive line, no running game, and noise all year long in a really good division. Yeah, that Jerry Jones, once again,
Starting point is 00:13:30 without even knowing it this time, has major influence. Los Angeles. Los Angeles. One of my favorite all-time bites. Catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. The thing about hard knocks, that HBO show, it does pull back the curtain. Remember the Jeff Fisher, L.A. Ram staff, you were watching it thinking, this is, they're just dysfunctional. And then you watch Rex Ryan. It'd come off like an
Starting point is 00:14:03 AFC championship game, and you're watching Rex Ryan, and you're thinking, this, it just looks too loose and too goofy. It does. pull back the curtain. Reality shows may be edited and they may, you know, in a lot of times on the old, you know, music networks, they'd ply everybody with alcohol and you say stupid stuff, but they do give you glimpses of the truth.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And has there been in four episodes a single moment of the Cleveland Browns where you thought, damn, that's a really elite coaching staff. No. Hugh Jackson's likable as all get out, but he just wants to be everybody's friend. Todd Haley screaming at everybody. Yesterday, he had apologize for screaming. Greg Williams is just not
Starting point is 00:14:45 2018 material and he got a cartoon character as an offensive line coach about 3.50 and he says you shouldn't stretch. The only moment in the show where I thought, God, that is great coaching, came from an actual Browns player last night who's been in the building for four months, Michael Kendricks. Here it was. All right, let's start with Nick Foles. Playing with Nick Foles, I realize on his long balls, his D balls, he has like a tear-dropped effect.
Starting point is 00:15:21 So corners in the time, he's just a little slower on that ball coming in. 86, I think, is the best receiver on the team. You hit his ass over and over. He doesn't want any smoke. Big V. By-tai. He's so big that his size allows him to do what he does. He doesn't trust his feet at all.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You get on him, his confidence will go down. I mean, he sat there for our TV viewers. We can only show the picture. We can't show all of it. Let me tell you something. That was impressive. And then they showed the game against the Eagles, and he was right on everything. And that was like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:16:03 That guy is, he is all buttoned up. But you got an O-line coach that's a cartoon character. Haley's screaming, then apologize. guys. Hugh Jackson is incredibly likable, but he wants to meet everybody's friend. And then Greg Williams, I mean, it just doesn't work in 2018. There's a reason he went from Fisher's
Starting point is 00:16:21 bad staff to this staff. Like the hard knocks gives you a lot of, and that's why I say about Baker Mayfield. Good luck. Carson Wentz can overcome that dysfunction. Andrew Luck can overcome that dysfunction. I've been critical of Cam Newton. He can overcome some of that dysfunction. Can Baker Mayfield, six feet tall, two-time walk-on?
Starting point is 00:16:38 Can he overcome that dysfunction? They have players. Now, I'm not saying they don't have players. I mean, when you're as bad as they are in any sport, and you keep getting number one, number two, number three, number four draft picks, they've got some talent. Denzel Ward Corner, Miles Garrett, the pass rusher, Jarvis Landry. They've spent some money on the old line.
Starting point is 00:16:58 They've got talent. But, man, the only teaching moment I've seen, and I was like blown away was from a player who's been on their roster for four months. You think if you watch Hard Knocks Patriots, you'd say, you know, this linebacker came over from Tennessee. That was the most impressive teaching moment I've seen on all the Hard Knocks episodes with Belichick. I don't think you'd see that. Maybe I'm being a homer.
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Starting point is 00:18:35 You had Snoop Dog, Candace Parker, Draymond Green. A bunch of famous people, right? I'm probably leaving a couple out. A bunch of famous. John Stewart, the, you know, the stand-up comedian political guy was there. And there's two moments in the show. Let me start with the first. This is LeBron talking to like John Stewart
Starting point is 00:18:53 about evolving and how to keep it going, going, going. Here's a, here's a little taste. To be able to age and continue to reinvent himself year after year, decade after decade, and still be relevant. still be able to have people follow him. That shit is hard as hell. It's not easy to age gracefully.
Starting point is 00:19:15 I left. How did you know, though? I began to make decisions based on laziness. It was time for someone else to have that chance. Most people don't do that, John. I was satisfied. So you want LeBron to retire? That's Michael Bennett.
Starting point is 00:19:32 Here's what's really interesting to me about the Lakers. is that I have watched every noteworthy game LeBron has played. I watched his first. You know, I've been watching all of them. Certainly every playoff game he's ever played, I've watched all of them. We have seen different stages of LeBron. Here's the three stages of LeBron we've seen so far. I call it the freight train LeBron.
Starting point is 00:19:56 This was the first time in Cleveland. Didn't win a championship, but he was raw. He wasn't terribly nuanced. He was just bigger, stronger, faster than anybody we ever seen. Even his first game in the NBA or like, dude, if that guy puts 10 pounds on, how you can stop him? He was not fully developed,
Starting point is 00:20:12 but every night he would chase down and block somebody like an all-star shot and he'd be like, what hell is that? I never seen that. I didn't see Michael do that. I didn't see Bird do that. That was the freight train LeBron. The second stage of LeBron's career to me was Miami.
Starting point is 00:20:33 Now he's joining Pat Reilly. Hall of Famer, D. Wade, Hall of Famer, Chris Bosch. Now he's playing with stars. Now the standards are higher. Got to win a ring there. And we saw his game had some holes. Not very good posting up low.
Starting point is 00:20:49 The second stage was not winning titles. That's not what it was. The second stage was playing with stars, being a little more coachable, sometimes having to rely on others to win games. The third stage in LeBron's career, was the last year in Miami and the Cleveland run. He got really, really efficient and added a deadly three-pointer.
Starting point is 00:21:14 He's like, listen, man, I see the game changing. I got to shoot threes. I can't go to the rim and get knocked over. And his game got like incredibly efficient. We saw it last year, most efficient player in the league. What makes the Lakers interesting is will we see a fourth stage? because you're going to get a combo deal in L.A. You're going to get the efficiency of LeBron developed in his last year in Miami
Starting point is 00:21:41 and in Cleveland with Kyrie, and you're going to get that first Cleveland roster with no other stars. That's really interesting to me. We had the freight train, the playing with others, and the efficient three ball growing into and remaining the best player in the game. But now we've got a new team
Starting point is 00:22:06 that looks a lot like that first Cleveland roster. Coulda what it should have been good. Do we know any of those guys are great? Do we know Lawanzzo's going to be great? Do we know Brandon England's going to be great and stay healthy? Do we know Kyle Kuzma? It's going to not have a sophomore slump. So you get kind of the Cleveland roster first run,
Starting point is 00:22:21 but to get all the efficiency and nuance of the last couple of runs. And I think it's really exciting. And by the way, I'm not sure. I'm not sure what's going to happen in L.A. I know they're not going to be terrible, but they may not ever win a championship. My guess is they'll get one. Okay, the second part of the show, the shop, and again, it was a bunch of stars, was Odell Beckham Jr. There was a bunch of stuff on the show, but I thought this was really interesting.
Starting point is 00:22:46 He opened up about how he feels he is perceived by you and me, the public. I really feel like a zoo animal. Like, that's where life's gone for me. You know, you used to take your kids to the zoo, and we used to be like, you know, I want to see the lions. or let's go see the lions and you go out there and the lions are laid out. You know what I mean? It's like, why aren't they doing lion stuff? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:10 Like I got people who call, Oh, Dale, dance. And it's like, to me, that doesn't feel good. But it's like, damn, that's where life became. But can you ever really detach from that? This is where it's really interesting to me. You know, when I see O'Dell Beckham, I've said he's the first NBA player in the NFL. And I would compare him a little bit. to Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:23:34 Steph Curry is never going to be as good as LeBron. Steph Curry is not as good as magic. He's not as good as Michael. He's not as dominating as wilt. He's not as powerful as Shaq. But Steph Curry, I think, is the most impactful player in the history of the Orange Ball. He eliminated centers. He turned it into a more skilled game.
Starting point is 00:23:56 We have a revolution that's going on now in college and high school. Go to a YMCA. and ain't working on low post. Not those passing drills. You go to a YMCA. Can you hit a three? Can't sit down. Next guy can.
Starting point is 00:24:12 You don't have to be the greatest to be the most impactful. And I feel similarly with OBJ. He's never going to be as talented as Randy Moss as he's not going to have the career of Larry Fitzgerald. He won't last that long. He's not big enough. And like Steph Curry, we've already seen injuries and there may be more to come. But O'Dell Beckham is different. You go to a football practice high school in the country.
Starting point is 00:24:36 You got dyed hair, one-hand catches, you got a lot of flash, and the coaches are getting more and more used to it. That is the reality now of a lot of high school and college football. Is Larry Fitzgerald as good as anybody I've ever seen, and Calvin Johnson would still be playing today with Tom Brady, giving you 17 touchdowns a year. He just ended up in a dysfunctional organization. But Odell's, to me, is Steph Curry.
Starting point is 00:25:02 Remember, David Beckham was never, ever the best soccer player in the world. He's really not Ronaldo. He's not close. He's not messy. But David Beckham was the most important soccer player, probably outside of Pele ever. Movies, Spice Girl, Model, underwear ads, has come over to help the MLS. We didn't ask Messi to come over here. We asked David Beckham.
Starting point is 00:25:27 you don't have to be the best. Steph Curry has more global impact on the history of the game itself, not choose, the game than Michael Jordan and LeBron. He's that impactful. He eliminated the non-skilled big. Can't even draft him now. That's got to be a second round pick. Guy's tough.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Doesn't matter. Can he shoot? No, out. Next guy up. So Odell Beckham, he really is different. I can remember years ago watching TV. You forget. You know, golfers have always made money on their clubs,
Starting point is 00:26:00 and basketball players have always made money on their shoes, right? Since Showtime Lakers, Larry Bird Magic. Even I think Dr. Jay had a converse ad years and years ago. I think it was converse. But I can remember it wasn't that long ago when Donovan McNabb played. I remember sitting watching television one time, and Donovan McNabb is doing a chunky Campbell soupette. And I remember watching it thinking, man, NFL guys don't do ads.
Starting point is 00:26:25 I'd never even thought about it before. I'm like, Donovan McNabb has an ad. And then Farrv got into him. Then Peyton Manning really got into him. But Odell Beckham is just a perimeter player coming off an injury. He is a global icon. Peyton Manning was never global. Brett Farrv was amazing.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Brett Farrb wasn't global. This kid's like an international soccer star. And the public is, I mean, people come up to him and he can't do dark glasses. like this kid is Steph. He is the one-hand catch. I mean, the net, the boat, the flare, the hair. Like, he's different. There's not a lot like him.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Now, he's got to stay healthy, or else instead of Steph Curry, he's going to end up being Derek Rose, which has got his shoes, got his money, got his global icon status, but can't stay healthy. And I think that's a real question, because he's missed in four years, 17 games. But he is different. I mean, he is the first.
Starting point is 00:27:25 first NBA player in the National Football League. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Two rings, multiple pro bowls, defensive player of the year, one of the most feared guys in league history, all-time sack leader for the Steelers. James Harrison's already on the couch. All right, so Aaron got paid today. You good with it? Definitely. I'm definitely good with it. I mean, you know. A lot of money. He's worth it. He's worth it. Salary cap now. They're not going to be a able to afford other players.
Starting point is 00:27:57 That's something the, you know, the Packers are going to have to figure out right now. Anne Rogers is getting what he deserves. Yeah. But by the way, when a guy gets one of these massive contracts, how is it playing in the locker room? Everybody's happy. Oh, they are. Oh, definitely. I love to see guys get money. I'm happy whenever I see a contract
Starting point is 00:28:13 come across there that breaks the record of another guy's contract. I want to see everybody get money. So players are not jealous in that respect? No, at least not the ones I hang around, no. Okay. It will You remember your big contract? Yeah. It was 52.
Starting point is 00:28:30 Everybody was happy. Yes, of course. Good day? Great day. Great day. Beers on you that day? Whatever it was was on me. It don't matter.
Starting point is 00:28:40 I'm not a beer drinker, but whatever it was, it was on me. Barbell's on you. Everything. So, Odell Beckham, LeBron has a new TV show. It's called The Shop. It was on after Hard Knocks. We're going to play a clip here of Odell Beckham. So let me play this clip, and I'm going to have James React.
Starting point is 00:28:55 to it. Hold on. I really feel like a zoo animal. Like, that's where life's gone for me. You know, you used to take your kids to the zoo and we used to be like, you know, I want to see the lions or let's go see the lions and you go out there and the lions are laid out. You know what I mean? It's like, why aren't they doing lion stuff? You know what I mean? Like I got people who call hotel, dance. And it's like to me that doesn't feel good, but it's like, damn, that's where life became. But can you ever really detach from that? So, you know, some people could say, oh, geez, celebrity whining. you've been a celebrity in Pittsburgh most places you can't
Starting point is 00:29:29 you can't walk around town how does that land for you with him I think it's gotten to a point that his celebrity is so big that he's getting a lot more attention than what you know he's comfortable with I'm sure at times he wants that attention you know he opens himself up with social media
Starting point is 00:29:44 he's given a glimpse into what it is he does and those are times that he's willing to do that you know it's situations where you're out you're hanging out with your friends or family and you just want to be able to do with everybody else there is doing and not have to worry about, you know, signing the pictures, taking autographs. And with him, like I said, he's, he's mega right now, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:04 So to see O'Dell out, everyone wants to get a picture with him. They want to get an autograph. So it then got to the point now where he just, you know, he's a little tired of it being a 24-7 thing. Go back to your career. Were there ever days you just were overwhelmed by it in Pittsburgh? You win Super Bowls. You get three sacks. Everybody's talking about James.
Starting point is 00:30:23 You go out to have dinner with your. you know, significant other friends. Is it ever too much? At some point it's going to be too much because you don't have a great day every day. You know, every day isn't rosy, you know, just because you're making all this money doesn't mean everything is going on, you know, happy, you know, back at home. But for the most part, you try and accompany them or or do something to make them feel good about meeting you.
Starting point is 00:30:50 But for you to be in, you know, certain situations where he may be in a restaurant and he has say, you know, 50 or 100 people in there and everyone's looking and someone comes over. Usually they'll send a little kid over because it's hard to say no to the little kids and he asked for autographs. So you sign it. And then all of a sudden you got 15, 20, 30, 40 other people and they're coming for autographs and you can't get a bite in to eat now. So you're trying to figure out how you're going to satisfy these people but still satisfy yourself. So like I said, it's probably got to a point to where it's very hard for him. And I'm nowhere near the status that was as far as this stardom and fame that he has in celebrity.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Have you ever been out with Big Ben in public? I haven't been out in a restaurant with him at public, but I know for a fact, you know, it'll get to the point to where you know that if it's a place you haven't been before, I'll say you'll get a lot more attention. If it's a place like in Pittsburgh, it's places I can go where they see me regularly enough that it's just James Harris and he walks through. Now, if you go somewhere else where they're not used to seeing you, then you're going to get a lot more attention to a point to where, you know, guys
Starting point is 00:31:55 just say, you know what, I'm not going here. I'm not going there. They'll, you know, try and get someone, if it's food or something they want to get from that restaurant, they'll call or have someone go in and get it and just bring it to them. Or you stop going to certain places where you would, like, I just started, you know, with my kids with football and going to different stadiums to, you know, watch them play. The other teams aren't used to seeing you there. So you get a little bit more attention than you do when you're at the normal everyday practice of the home team. Yeah. So Malcolm Jenkins, this is really interesting. So Malcolm Jenkins, who I really like as a player, pretty thoughtful, smart dude, good player. He said, I hate it. Our locker room's got this big banner. We got this new thing. We're Super Bowl champs. We showed it earlier. And he's like, you know, listen, man, that doesn't make practice good today. That we did it done. Next parade. Let's go to the film room. Take me to your career. Teams do get complacent, James. They just do, right? Did you ever have a Super Bowl team that got complacent? I feel like we got a little complacent.
Starting point is 00:32:57 I feel like, you know, it depends on the players in the situations. You got to understand each team is not going to be the same coming around each year. So you're going to lose, you know, you may lose key players. You may lose, you know, people who are on special teams that had key roles at special teams. So it's not going to be exactly the same team rolling around the same year. Everything's not going to fall out the same way. And guys forget how much work it took in that off season. You started your off season, probably because you got kicked out of the play.
Starting point is 00:33:25 playoffs by February. That's right. So you're grinding February, March, April, May, June, all the way through until you hit training camp. And all that work has built you into the player that's about to start this new season. Well, after you win the Super Bowl, what's after the Super Bowl in February? You're celebrating. You got guys that are, you got signings because everybody wants to be around a Super Bowl champion.
Starting point is 00:33:47 They want his autograph. Everyone's getting signings. You know, everyone's getting. You're going to- You're getting everything. So now your celebration, where your workouts were normally starting February, that's your celebration time.
Starting point is 00:33:59 Now you're celebrating to February, and some guys just can't get enough of it. So now you're through April, March. Some guys may not get back to it until OTAs or training camp. So now you lost all that prep time where the year before you were grinding. You were working out for the previous four or five months getting ready for the season.
Starting point is 00:34:17 And like you said, you get to complacency. You know, guys think it's going to just roll through the same way it did. It's not that easy. It's not that simple. That's why what New England's done is pretty remarkable. Oh, yeah. I mean, it's just, just, even the years they don't win the Super Bowl, they're really, really good. And they just lose a close game.
Starting point is 00:34:33 So some people watch Hard Knocks. I do, some don't. I've never been a huge fan of Hard Knocks. I don't like the league, because I think it's disruptive. Every time you see a reality show, whether it's football or not, the couple gets divorced like a year later. I don't like the league telling teams, here's a camera crew. I got Baker Mayfield. Well, it's Rules.
Starting point is 00:34:53 It's rules. can get out, I happen to do that. All you got to do is weigh well to make the playoffs every time. If you win. Yeah. Okay, so Cleveland now's got Baker and all this stuff. They got Tyrod Taylor, a new quarterback. They got Hugh Jackson's under the gun a little bit. So I think it disrupts a locker room.
Starting point is 00:35:08 Have you talked to guys who have been on the hard knocks? I've been on hard knocks with Cincinnati. Oh. So how, go give me a good story. I don't know those guys personality before I got there, but I believe that at some point in time a camera's going to be here in a
Starting point is 00:35:24 the guy is going to not act the way he would normally act in that situation to get some camera time, you know, basically to see what he, what he looked like on TV and the first thing he's going to do when it's time for that to run is make sure he gets to the camera and see what that situation looked like. Another thing I had an issue was I didn't feel like they deserve to be there. They didn't put any time, any blood, sweating tears into that locker room. They didn't do anything to earn a place in that locker room. And now, I mean, you're going to show that to the whole world. And I don't feel like they did anything to be in there.
Starting point is 00:36:00 And you got guys that are, you know, 21, 22 years old, and they've played football their whole life, okay? From high school, from peeves to high school to college. And they've been told that, you know what? You're great, man. You're good. Let's go. Let's do this high school thing.
Starting point is 00:36:17 You're good, man. You're so good. We're going to give you this scholarship, everything paid for. You're in college now. And he getting into the pros, and now he's about to be cut. This is the first time he doesn't told he's not good enough for anything. And he has to take that on the chin while the camera in his face. And his real reaction is probably not the one you're going to see right there.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Like he wants to call mom, he wants to call dad, and be like, what do I do? He is devastated. And I don't feel like that should be shown on TV. It's almost cruel. You were cut by the Ravens? I was cut by everybody, man. I was cut by Pittsburgh, by four, five times. I was cut by the Ravens.
Starting point is 00:36:56 I was cut by Cincinnati. All the people ain't cut me is New England. You went to Europe. I did Europe, the NFL Europe, Dusseldorf, Germany with the Rhine fire. I did all that. God, you really had a rough road, didn't you? Listen, I was a week short from 2004, the 2005 season. I did the NFL Europe.
Starting point is 00:37:20 and played in regular NFL. I was a week short of a year of football, 38 games straight non-stop. 38 games? Yeah. Good Lord. And that's back when it was two of days, two of their pads. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:37:38 But that's why you're a legendary grinder. Yeah. 38 games. So when you hear Jerry Jones say, we should have 18 games, you're like, I played double that. I don't care. Some guys aren't built. You're built, man, when I first met you,
Starting point is 00:37:49 Traps, you are built to play football. My traps ain't there no more? No, I didn't say that. But when I first met you, I was like, that's what a football player looks like. James, not everybody can withstand. Like when Jerry says 18 games, my takeaway is, you know John Lynch. John Lynch never had a concussion. John Lynch was one of the nastiest hitters at safety.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Then you find another guy, a corner doesn't want to tackle anybody. He's got three. Like for you, 38 games. The average NFL player is 18 games too much. I think 18 games is too much in the setup they have now. With four, then 18? No, I think 18 games, regular season is too much. I think they need to add more players.
Starting point is 00:38:31 So do I. You need to add a true practice squad so that you're not taking that same wearing tear in season with practicing, you know, the guys that are special teams, they're flipping back and forth. They're playing offense for the scout team. They're doing all the specials team stuff. You need a true group of practice squad. So another eight guys in practice?
Starting point is 00:38:48 No, I'm saying like a group that's like 50. 15 to 18, you know, guys. So it would be another eight or so added to what it is now. So it's eight practice squad now. Yeah, it would be another eight or so at least. James Harrison, former NFL great. Now he's here at FS1. We're glad to have him.
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Starting point is 00:39:22 Breaking news. As suspected it happened sooner than later, the New York Jets have traded Teddy Bridgewater, who was battling Sam Darnold for the starting quarterback job. Sam Darnold is now the official starting quarterback for the New York Jets. They realize he's really good. He should have been number one. He dropped to them at three so that Jets are going to get draft picks,
Starting point is 00:39:47 according to Adam Schaefter, draft picks are coming to the New York Jets in exchange for Sam Darnold. And this is what we theorize in the last 48 hours, is that when you, this is why I said two days ago. I went into this year thinking Teddy Bridgewater starts, and I still think Teddy this morning's a little bit better. But the gap is so close with Darnold and Bridgewater, are you better off? The Jets have one of the five easiest NFL schedules, and it's real workable in the first six weeks. trade Teddy, get draft picks, and just start building that offensive line. Here's another thing to throw out there. Kalee Mack.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Jets have been rumored. Jets have an elite safety, Jamal Adams, Trumane Johnson at corner, Leonard Williams on the defensive line. They don't have a pass rusher. They were 28th in sacks. Do you get a couple of draft picks? And then you go to the Raiders and say, we'll give you draft picks. We want Kaleel Mack.
Starting point is 00:40:41 And then you got an elite edge rusher, an elite corner, an elite safety. You have a defensive-minded head coach. You keep Sam Darnold in those games. Or do you just grab all the picks you can? You go to your scouting department and say, next two years, what are the offensive look like in college football? You go to your NFL scouts and say, are there going to be offensive linemen on the market? Because what you've got to do for the Jets right now, you've got to get an offensive line.
Starting point is 00:41:05 That thing's a mess. It has moments when it can pass block a little. It does not run block well. Now, the Jets receivers are not great. But if Robbie Anderson can keep it buttoned up and curse, they're okay. It's not a disaster. They're receiving core. It depends.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Terrell Pryor. Can Terrell Pryor stay focused? Robbie Anderson stay engaged. You got something. But they got no running backs of note, not good at tight end. Offensive line is really, really poor. But the Jets are making a decision, and they're making a decision that all of us have watched. Sam Darnold is head and shoulders to me.
Starting point is 00:41:46 better than all these rookie quarterbacks. I think Baker has had moments, but I don't think he's as big, as athletic, as talented, as durable. Sam's really looked apart. Now, he's going to scrap, he's going to have bad days, but the Saints, Drew Brees is getting up there. And I believe Teddy Bridgewater is not just a stopgap guy. I think Teddy Bridgewater can play. I think Teddy Bridgewater is a starting team in the NFL. He's not Drew Brees. But if Drew's got two years left, he can be that three-year bridge. You can win a lot of games. And remember, Teddy Bridgewater's never had an offensive coach like Sean Peyton.
Starting point is 00:42:23 So Sean Payton's the guy looking at all the film, and he's like, Sean Peyton is telling you, Teddy Bridgewater's good. And the Jets are telling you, we think he's good too. One of the elite offensive guys in football, Drew Brees, Sean Peyton just said, I think Teddy Bridgewater is really good. And Sam Darnold's beating him out. That's a pretty good indication Sam Darnold can play. Jets are trading Teddy Bridgewater to the New Orleans Saints.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The trade of Teddy to the Saints is expected to evolve draft picks. And this is what we all kind of theorize what happened. Eventually, it just happened now. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo.
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