The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 09/04/2019

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

 Colin says that the Cowboys are still Dak's team and that was made evident with the deal that Jerry Jones gave Ezekiel Elliott.  He respects the way the Rams do business and signed their franchise ...QB without anything leaking to the media.  Plus, FS1's Nick Wright makes his playoff predictions with Colin and one team will definitely surprise you  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:46 Ah, here we go. This is The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we are live in Los Angeles on IHeart Radio, Fox Sports Radio, and FS1. Joy Taylor and I, how adorable, are matching. today. About once a year this happens. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:03:07 This is incredible. It's like a lilac. Lavender and Friends. Mornings on FS1. All right, Zeke got a new deal. Yes. It's got a new deal.
Starting point is 00:03:21 I want to talk about that. I've been hearing now for months. This is Zeke's team. It runs through Zeke. He is the most valuable player. You have got to get this deal. This is Zeke's team. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:03:39 Then he must have the world's worst agent because he just signed a contract that's less than Demarcus Lawrence. That will be less than half of Dak Prescott. Are the Cowboys Super Bowl favorites now? Did the Dallas Super Bowl odds change? Because I see there are 10 teams in the NFL that have the same or better odds than Dallas. This has never been Zeke's team. this is Dak Prescott's team when did the fortunes of this franchise change
Starting point is 00:04:09 Tony Romall hurt they were desperate DAC stepped in and went 13 and 3 let me ask you a question if Dak Prescott had held out of camp had refused to report had gone down to Kabul to work out
Starting point is 00:04:29 do you think Jerry Jones would have been cracking jokes about DAC? Remember what Jerry said. This was of three weeks after Zeke had been holding out. Three weeks. What are your best negotiated with Zieg? Who? Pollard. Zee could.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Jerry would have been on a private jet his in 45 minutes a month and a half ago. because Tony Pollard is not Zeke, but you can win a lot of games with Tony Pollard, that O-line, Dak, Amari Cooper, Michael Gallup, DeMarcus, Lawrence, Byron Jones, that running back, linebacker duo. You do not win any games in the National Football League with Cooper Rush starting at quarterback.
Starting point is 00:05:16 This is Dak Prescott's franchise. Who do you trust, Dak or Zeke? Who do you want it to microphone after a game? Dak or Zeke. Who do you know will not be in Kabul, for a camp ever holding out. This is Dak Prescott's franchise. Who's going to make double what Zeke did?
Starting point is 00:05:36 Who's going to take every snap? Who are you going to rely on trailing by seven in the fourth quarter against Philadelphia? It's not Zeke, it's Dak. This is Dak Prescott's franchise. This franchise with Tony Romo, it's fun to watch. And then Tony Romo got hurt, and it was a luxury liner going down fast,
Starting point is 00:05:58 and Dak Prescott saved the franchise, kept him on television. Okay, this is Dak's franchise. Cooper Rush backs up DAC. The NFL gives us, on an annual basis, two new quarterbacks that, like, play. The NFL on the average year gives us a dozen new running backs. So I know nobody wants to pay Dak,
Starting point is 00:06:26 and Dak isn't this, and Zeke is that, and Zeke is valuable, and Zeke is amazing. Here's all I know. Is that within the next six months to a year, DAC is going to make over double Zeke. DeMarcus Lawrence has already signed for more than Zeke. Amari Cooper will sign for more than Zeke. And ask yourself this, if your boss told you,
Starting point is 00:06:49 you are the most important employee calling at the company. And then the guy sitting next to me made over double what I made. I'd be like, how do I reconcile that whole? This is, will be going forward, Dak Prescott's franchise. I'm okay with that. I'm completely okay with that. He doesn't give me a lot of wow,
Starting point is 00:07:12 but there's a lot of different ways to pay quarterbacks, and you can pay him on wins, and Dak wins a lot. All right, I want to shift to this because somebody else got paid last night. He's also more important than Zeke. He's a quarterback, and his name is Jared. Gough, he'll get $110 million guaranteed.
Starting point is 00:07:31 That is over double the guaranteed money that Zieg will get. But let's not just talk about Jared Gough, because I think he's a really, really good player. Many of you don't like him as much. I think he's top 10 in the league. I think he's a better version of Matt Ryan, and I think Matt Ryan's one of the top eight, nine quarterbacks in the NFL. But what I really appreciate is the way the L.A. Rams did business last night. We are in the entertainment capital of the world.
Starting point is 00:07:55 there are 31 music venues in Los Angeles. Most cities have three. There are a dozen professional sports teams. It's Noah's Ark. We got two of everything. We got two soccer, two hockey, two baseball, two football, two college, do everything. And that just showed up when you're watching TV on the bottom of the screen. Jared Goff, new contract, $110 million.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Restraint. Cowboys have become the Kardashians. I mean, the Cowboys have become the Kardashians. Look how much I'm making. Look at me, I've got a new this, and I got a new that, and here's what I make, and here's my luxury house. And I think a lot of this is Stan Cronkey, the owner of the Rams. He's legendary. He's the second richest owner in the NFL, almost double Jerry Jones net worth.
Starting point is 00:08:41 And you don't know what he looks like, and you'll never see him. And there's legendary stories that he often shows up for dinner to meet his friend Al Michaels, and he shows up in the back of an Uber. Not like an Uber black, the expensive one, like a little Uber. And Stan Cronky gets out, he's worth 9.8 billion. And that permeates the franchise. The Rams in Los Angeles, Aaron Donald, Jared Gov, Todd Gurley. We may be in the city of Kardashians, but it's very non-Cardashian.
Starting point is 00:09:13 And I like the way they do business. And here's the other thing. People tend to say, you know, Jerry is very pro player. But let me ask you this. if you had a son or a daughter that was 22 or 23 years old, and I want you to really think about this, would you want their name out there, hoisted up there,
Starting point is 00:09:36 wondering what their value is? Jerry is theatrical, but sometimes the players are the cartilage. For the last six to eight weeks, we have talked about Zeke like he's more thing than human. Is he worth that? Is it worth that? Dak Prescott's not this.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Dak Prescott's not that. Dak Prescott is that. He's a human being. I wouldn't want my son or daughter's value being questioned on Instagram or Twitter or social media or debate shows all day. Stan Cronky actually loves his players. They don't become cartilage.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Stan Cronky wraps up his contracts with his players and you discuss what now has happened, not Dak and Zeke, what will happen. I like Jerry Jones. I do. I think he's a really good owner, and he generally pays his players. But I don't like the way the cowboys often do business.
Starting point is 00:10:33 They put their players up there like pinatas for guys like me to take wax at. Are you good? Are you not? Are you worth? Are you this? Wouldn't want that done to my kids. I don't want people questioning whether my son or my daughter are worth this or worth that. If somebody respected me and did business with my kids,
Starting point is 00:10:50 I would hope they just sign a contract or not. Let them go. Let them stay. but don't make them cartilage. If you care about employees, as much as you tell me you care about employees, then worry a little or less about your brand and about selling tickets.
Starting point is 00:11:07 I like the Cowboys, and I like Jerry, but I like the way the Rams did business with Aaron Donald, even in a holdout. I never really heard about it. Jared Goff last night, I did what you did. How about that? I didn't even hear that thing was coming.
Starting point is 00:11:21 I don't like when players become, and I know I'm a talk show guy. I have opinions. But I'd rather not talk about the value of human beings. Pam, I don't like having to talk about contracts. But I've got to be honest, for the last month, it's the Cowboys. You've got to talk about it. Valuable players.
Starting point is 00:11:41 Contracts on the line. All I know is I like being surprised by new deals. I like waking up and hearing, oh, Carson Wentz got a bunch of money, good for him. or waking up and hearing, oh, Jared Goff got a bunch of money, good for him. I don't begrudge any player making what they can. But sometimes I think to the detriment of the athlete,
Starting point is 00:12:08 the Cowboys brand take center stage, the money, the value, the worth. I wish we didn't have to talk about it. I wish we talked about the games and the passes and the catches and the touchdowns and not about the humans and what they have to be worth R could be maybe not M. Anyway, congrats to both guys for making money. I just like the way the Rams did their business.
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Starting point is 00:16:09 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. You know, you can, the millionaire next door book, where you don't make a ton of money, but you max your 401k, you put money away, you live humbly, you pay off your house. Then there's people who get, you know, their mom and dad were rich, they pass away and they leave them money. And the same in professional careers. There's a lot of different ways to get paid. Sometimes you have leverage.
Starting point is 00:16:34 Sometimes there's scarcity of your job. You'd be surprised in hospitals who gets paid the most and who gets paid the least. It's not always the flashiest most honored degree. The anesthesiologist makes the most money in a hospital. hospital. Look it up. You wouldn't think so. You'd think the baby doctor who's delivering life would get paid more. No, the anesthesiologist makes nine times more. It's the same in the NFL for quarterback. So, Dax's going to get paid. And the knock on deck is, well, there's not a lot of wow throws. There's not a lot of wow moments. I mean, the biggest play for him last year was a
Starting point is 00:17:10 quarterback scramble. There's not a lot of, he doesn't throw for 4,000 yards. He doesn't have one throw that we're like, oh, remember the rolling at, he doesn't have any of those. There's a lot of different ways to get paid. Eli Manning has gotten paid off two games. Super Bowls, beating Brady. Andy Dalton got paid. A lot of money.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Because Andy Dalton walked into this league, had a bunch of good players around him. In five straight years, they made the playoffs. Dax going to get paid because he wins games. Joel Flacco got paid a fortune because he won two playoff games. the AFC Championship and then the Super Bowl. Flacco never gets paid because he's mobile.
Starting point is 00:17:50 Certainly doesn't get paid because he's accurate. Joe Flacco got paid because in a contract year, he had two huge wins and played really good in both. Kirk Cousins got paid $28.5 million. It's not big. He doesn't win big games, but he got paid because of what they call scarcity of quarterbacks. He was on the market.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Nobody else was out there. and it wasn't a great year for college quarterbacks. Dax's not going to get paid because when I watch him, I don't see Russell Wilson's athletic ability. I don't see Tom Brady or Matt Ryan's precision. I don't see Carson Wentz's size or athletic ability. I don't see the beautiful football down the field Jared Gough throws. But there's a lot of different ways to get paid.
Starting point is 00:18:38 Jimmy Garoppolo, my friends, is being paid on potential. Matt Stafford's always been paid on his arms. Cam Newton's paid because he's sort of an athletic freak. The numbers say he's not that accurate. Okay, Dak Prescott, consistent, reliable wins games. McDonald's did not become the number one fast food chain because their burgers tasted better than everybody else's. But they were fast, they were inexpensive, they were consistent,
Starting point is 00:19:09 they were reliable, and they were on time. Southwest Airlines doesn't you. even have a first class. But it's the highest profiting most known airlines, I believe in America, because they're on time. Not really expensive. They don't
Starting point is 00:19:25 cancel many flights. Safety record is impeachable, unimpeachable. There's a lot of different ways to become number one. There's a lot of different ways to get paid. The Cowboys were a disaster. Tony Romo got hurt. Fourth round Dak stepped in. It's reliable.
Starting point is 00:19:43 he's mobile enough he never gets hurt he's pretty good in the fourth quarter he wins games in division he's often better in the fourth on the first quarter he's kind of the anti-romo he's not flashy he's not that much fun to watch but he never gets hurt tony did he doesn't make the big mistake tony did yeah tony romo was more fun to watch but tony didn't win as many games as dack does and if tony was getting paid today you'd be okay with it. One more herd. The herd streams 24 hours a day,
Starting point is 00:20:18 seven days a week, within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Let's go to Nick Wright via the Coward Global Satellite Network. All right. So the Cowboys are all buttoned up. They've got all their players, Nick. And so I imagine you see them as a playoff team
Starting point is 00:20:35 and a lucky break from the Super Bowl, right? I do not. Listen, I think the Cowboys were drawing dead for the postseason if they didn't get Zeke in. They are now alive for the postseason, in my eyes, along with nine other really quality NFC teams. And so when you're in a conference with 10 viable playoff teams in no particular order,
Starting point is 00:20:59 Philly, Dallas, Chicago, Green Bay, Minnesota, New Orleans, Carolina, Atlanta, Seattle, and the Rams. And that's leaving out your adorable, beloved San Francisco 49ers. You're going to have to make some tough cuts. tend to err on the side of coach quarterback. Don't love Dallas's coach.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Don't trust their quarterback. And even if they get into the tournament, unless something catastrophic happens with Carson Wentz, it will be as a wild card team. And there is no chance, none in 2019. I guess then it'd be 2020, a Dak Prescott led team is going to win three consecutive road playoff games. So unless something happens, to win. I don't think they can win the division. I don't think they're going to be a wildcard team.
Starting point is 00:21:46 I think it's going to be nine and seven and a good, not a great, not a championship level team. Now, you don't love Jared Goff, if I recall as much as I do, but I think something happened. I think something happened with Jared Goff. First impressions are incredibly powerful. And it just so happened, Jared Goff took over the Rams and they were on hard knocks, and it was awful, and he didn't know east from west. And the offense with Jeff Fisher was impossible to watch. And then the last two years, he's been utterly brilliant, but a lot of people cannot get past that first year. Now, Patrick Mahomes, he got to sit in the bench with Andy Reed. So we don't get the misgivings of the young quarterback. I think golf, who signed a deal yesterday, is the
Starting point is 00:22:30 future for 10 years. I think he and Mahomes will meet in a, and I say this seriously, over the next 12 years in multiple Super Bowls. I think there'll be the two legends. So, but you don't like golf as much, right? Yeah, listen, I think Jared Goff has shown the ability to be good. I have not seen him be great. I understand the numbers over the last two seasons since Sean McVeigh took over. The numbers appear to be pretty undeniable. 12 wins a season, 30 touchdowns a season, 1001 rating a season.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I get all of that. I also think it's been under the ideal circumstances, not just because of the head coach, but because of the talent around him. And I would be concerned with that player, how good is he going to be once we pay him and therefore we have to pair away the talent around him? Now I shouldn't be surprised he got this deal. Number one overall picks who make a couple Pro Bowls
Starting point is 00:23:28 at that position and then lead their team to the Super Bowl, those guys always get paid. I was excited about the idea that maybe just maybe, the Rams were going to be an incubator for an experiment that I wish one team one day would try, which is we're just going to keep rolling over the quarterback on a rookie contract. We are always going to have a stacked roster because we're going to draft the quarterback. We trust our coach. We're going to keep him for five years.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Franchise tag him. Let someone else take him for those two first round picks and start this sucker again. They obviously are not going to go that way with it. We'll see how it works out with them. One last point on golf. You mentioned first impressions are very noteworthy. That is true. The next most noteworthy impression is the most recent impression,
Starting point is 00:24:16 and Jared Goff, before Cooper Cup went down through 10 weeks, was extraordinary. After Cooper Cup went down, his pass rating dropped 30 points, and the Rams were very beatable. That speaks to my theory of, okay, cooks, woods, cup, plus Gurley, plus McVeigh, he's awesome, remove any one or two of those ingredients. Can he still be great? That's my concern. And by the way, that's one of the reasons. I have your Rams out of the playoffs this year.
Starting point is 00:24:45 So let's talk about that. I obviously think they're very good and for a lot of different reasons. Let's talk about the NFC. So give me your division winners and then give me your two wild cards. So go for it. Give me your division winners and wild cards. No problem. So I'll give you the division winners.
Starting point is 00:25:05 order of how I think they'll finish. I think the Packers are going to bounce back with an MVP level year from Aaron Rogers and improved defense, given the money they spent on it, and a reinvigorated team with the new head coach. I think they're going to be 12 and 4 and have the best record in the NFC. Two seed, the Philadelphia Eagles, who will be fighting with the Packers for that top seat all year long. Three seed, I'm sure this is one where we disagree on. The Carolina Panthers last year through eight weeks were six and two. Football outsiders said they were the third best team in football, then T.J. Watt wrecked Cam Newton's shoulder in their season went to hell. And the four seed, the Seattle Seahawks, who even in a down year went 10 and 6 and went to the
Starting point is 00:25:44 playoffs in the playoffs, but not winning their division, Saints and Bears. Okay. So, I'm concerned about the Saints. Yeah. Go ahead. No, no, this is good. I want to say this, though. So you don't have the Rams, you don't have the Cowboys, you don't have the Niners, you don't have
Starting point is 00:26:01 Atlanta. Now, these are tough choices. What I see right here is you still buy Mitch Trubisky and the Bears. That's what I see. Well, listen, they won 12 games last year. Even if they take a couple games step back, I think there's still a playoff team. I don't think Trubisky will be worse than last year. A God willing, their kicking situation won't be worse.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Their defense should be as good. A full off season from Roquant Smith. Kalee Mack didn't go anywhere. And I really like their coach. and as far as the teams I don't buy, I'm not including San Francisco in this. Jimmy Garoppolo's played 10 games in his life. He's got hurt badly in two of them.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Throw them out of it. Now, the Rams, I think the Super Bowl hangover is a real thing, and I also don't think they're going to have the absurd health they had to eat to the last two regular seasons. You mentioned the Cowboys. I think Cowboys will be good, not great. It's just hard, and you know this, Colin. Every year in the NFL, there is a minimum, a minimum of four,
Starting point is 00:27:00 new playoff teams, it's usually five. So you can't just go chalk. You've got to find those new teams. In the NFC, the new teams to me are Panthers and Packers. I obviously like both their quarterbacks a lot. I'll start there and almost work backwards. All right. Let's go to the AFC where I saw your picks.
Starting point is 00:27:18 And I don't even know, maybe you made these in the wee hours of the morning. You were tired, slightly loopy. Go ahead because I think I agree with two of them fire away. Okay. All right, Patriots, the one seed. I don't have them going to the Super Bowl. I think the Chiefs get their revenge in Gillette of the game. They should have won last year at Arrowhead.
Starting point is 00:27:38 But they'll be the one seed. Soft schedule. There'll be six and one at a minimum through seven weeks. They'll be the one seed. The Chiefs, the best team in the NFL, they're the two seed. The Browns, the most talented starting 11 on both sides of the ball in the NFL. They win the AFC North. And then the Colts.
Starting point is 00:27:55 I really like the Colts infrastructure. I like their coach. I like how they're built. And I think Jacoby will be fine. That goes against the Houston Texans who have just, I think, a clueless head coach. Don't have any real infrastructure, just have Deshawn, Nuke, and JJ. And then the wildcard teams, the Ravens love the Earl Thomas edition, love their coach. Lamar will add an element that you almost have to specifically game plan for the Ravens,
Starting point is 00:28:21 different than any other team. And then there's the Bills. And I'll be honest, I had to talk myself into my own Bills pick. However, every year, there's one. one playoff team that everyone thought was going to be bad. We say, oh, who's your sleeper? And everyone's like, oh, the Niners are a sleeper. And it's like, no, they're not a sleeper. Vegas has them at nine wins. You got to pick at least one team that's projected to win five or six games. I am to quote a semi-wise man circling the wagons like the Buffalo Bills.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And I think they're going to squeeze their way to nine wins and make the playoffs. I don't really want to argue with you too much about the bills, though, because I'm not certain how much I believe it. By the way, it's kooky. But I think it's fun. I will say this. I don't think your Carolina picks crazy because I told my staff, I think I told Joy this yesterday. I feel great about every division except the NFC South. And I can look at Carolina's schedule and it's 11 and 5. And I would not, I picked Atlanta, but I would have no problem if Carolina went 11 and 5.
Starting point is 00:29:19 We got a minute and a half left. You and I have disagreed a lot on Cam. Is it fair to say, though, this year, if they do not deliver the new owner, perhaps does not see Cam, he doesn't care about the rearview mirror stuff. In a minute, what do you project for Cam if it doesn't go well? Because they got a new owner and he doesn't care about four years ago. If it doesn't go well, then I think the 2020 season, Cam could potentially be playing for his job.
Starting point is 00:29:49 But I do think there are quarterbacks who have accomplished far less who we give a far greater margin of error than we do Cam Newton. People say he's injured all the time. The guys missed five games in his entire career. People say how good, Kant, is he really? Well, he did win a league MVP and come a quarter away from winning a Super Bowl. It may be a drive away from winning a Super Bowl in a 15-1 season. But, yes, things are set up well for them.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Despite how they looked against the Pats, I like their offensive line. Love McCaffrey. DJ Moore should be the best receiver they've had since Steve Smith. And the defensive editions, Gerald McCoy, Bruce, Irvin. I think that they will get back to Carolina Panther defensive football, so I expect big things from them, a la what they were showing us the first eight weeks of last year before T.J. Watt wrecked Cam Newton on just, I'm not a dirty play, but just an absolutely brutal hit in the pocket. Nick Wright co-host, first things first, buddy. Can't wait for the NFL season. Good seeing you.
Starting point is 00:30:50 Absolutely. I'm excited for you to get one of those Patrick Mahomes headbands with the hair, Colin. Get on the bandwagon, my friend. Don't be wrong like last year. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. Jared Goff got a big contract, and there's a lot of critics of Jared Goff, and I like Jared Goff. There are moments for an athlete that are tipping points. I thought his game against Minnesota on television, on Fox. I thought his game against Kansas City. Those were tipping point moments. Yes, Sean McVeigh.
Starting point is 00:31:25 is an excellent coach. But Joe Montana had Bill Walsh, Brady's got Belichick, Dan Fouts had Air Cori-El, Troy Ackman had Jimmy Johnson, Terry Bradshaw had Chuck Knoll. I don't, none of these guys are great without a really smart coach. Yeah, Sean McBay is really smart. And Patrick Mahomes has Andy Reid, but we don't want to give Andy Reid any credit in Kansas City
Starting point is 00:31:47 because Mahomes is so flashy and fun. And the flashier of the sports car, the less credit we give the driver. when it comes to Breeze and it comes to Brady and it comes to Goff. I mean, good God, we're still calling Tom Brady a system quarterback. They're all system quarterbacks. Mahomes went with Goff went toe to toe and Goff beat him. And Goff went up against Minnesota and a perfect quarterback rating,
Starting point is 00:32:13 never been done with over 30 pass attempts. Goff did it. But the bottom line, the flashier, the quarterback, the less credit we give the coach. I'll give you an example of this. Mike Holmgren's a Hall of Fame level head coach. We gave him all the credit in Seattle with Matt Hasselbeck and none of the credit in Green Bay with Brett Farr. You ask anybody about Mike Holmgren.
Starting point is 00:32:35 They're like, he's one of the top ten coaches of all time. Go look at Mike Holmgren's coaching tree. It's like next to Parcells. It's unbelievable. Holmgren got no credit for Farrb. He got all the credit for Hasselbeck. He deserved, you know, 50% of credit for both of them. So I think Goff's contract, he's worth it.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I think he's smart. I think he's unique. I think he's Matt Ryan with better arms. talent and the idea that, well, it's Sean McVeigh, name me the quarterback that's got Super Bowl appearances. It just doesn't happen. You got Sean Payton is not Sean Payton without, excuse me, Drew Breeze is not Drew Breeze without Sean Peyton.
Starting point is 00:33:11 And I love Troy Aikman. But if he'd have had Barry Switzer for the first four years and not Jimmy Johnson, I don't think he would have been Troy Akeman. And that's nothing against Barry Switzer. Barry took Jimmy's momentum and won a Super Bowl. But if Troy had Barry's momentum, it may have been too late. He may have been gone by the time Jimmy Johnson got there. So I think Goff's worth it.
Starting point is 00:33:31 I think he's smart. I think he works hard. I think he's low-key. He's got the right personality. I think he's got the size a little bigger than Matt Ryan and a better arm than Matt Ryan. And I think Matt Ryan's a top-10 guy. And the other thing about Jared Goff, I like, totally coachable. It matters.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Mahomes, coachable. Luck, coachable. Russell Wilson, coachable. It matters. Sam Donald, coachable. Garoppolo, coachable. You know, I've said this before by Cam. Sometimes I think he's coachable.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Jay Cutler, sometimes I think he was coachable. I think I think that's a big component. I think golf's the real deal. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. Highlights are trending, opinions are flying, and nobody's telling you exactly what happened.
Starting point is 00:34:16 That's where Sports Slice comes in. I'm Timbo. Every episode, we're cutting through the noise. Breaking down the plays, the controversies, and the stories behind the headlines. We go straight to the source, the athlete themselves, their locker room stories, their reactions, the stuff nobody gets to hear.
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Starting point is 00:36:00 This is Clever Taylor the 4th. And on my podcast, The Cliverts Show, I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker, this linebacker walks up to me. He goes, A, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What?
Starting point is 00:36:17 Time out. Quarterback on office, Blue, 42. Hey, Red. My mama want you to weigh better. What? Hey, Miss Parker. Listen to the Clippers show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
Starting point is 00:36:37 American Soccer is about to explode. The World Cup is coming. Ramos sending on the Army Stewart of the chip. I'm Tad Ramos. I'm Tom Boe. On our podcast, Inside American Soccer, you'll get the real storylines. I'm not worried about Policic. I'm not worried about ballergan.
Starting point is 00:37:02 I'm not worried about McKinney. My only concern is what happens in the back. The biggest decisions. If you're going to look at stats and numbers, he has no shot at making this World Cup team. And the truth about the U.S. national team. It wouldn't be a huge surprise if our team ends up in the quarterfinals or potentially a great run into the semifinals.
Starting point is 00:37:23 The World Cup is almost here. Experience it all with us. Listen, Inside American Soccer with Tom Bogart and Tabramos on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcast. Frank Caliando, you know him for a lot of things. He made, I think he got really national when you'd see him on Letterman the first time. It was John Madden. He's had a great career.
Starting point is 00:37:47 He used to be on Fox NFL Sunday. His Gruden is spot on. My favorite actually is George W. Bush, which he'll do for me today because I think it's the funniest impersonation I've ever seen. But he was in Arizona where he lives. The Raiders were in town. Gruden asked Calliando to come in and do Gruden. Watch.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Glenn on love you man We needed a quarterback on the team who had a lot of neck. We got a good guy for that man The Danish school of soccer moments John Gruden University of Dayton I'd do this for free You know why? Because I love football Knock on wood if you're with me
Starting point is 00:38:35 I watched something the other night that impressed me tremendously A guy by the name of Hunter Renfro It's pretty spectacular, man. All right, let's bring him in. Frank Caliando, comedian impressionist, Fox NFL Sunday for over a decade. Great seeing you. Yes, great to be here. So it just, it's so ironic because I was watching some YouTube clips years ago on Letterman, and that was always a brutal show for any comedian.
Starting point is 00:39:05 Yeah. And you got, and I don't think I've ever heard a comedian outside of Norm MacDonald get treated better on Letterman, because they didn't treat all comedians. And Norm's the best, right? you know, it was just, he didn't matter what he even said there, you know? He was just, hey, Joy, I didn't know you were so close over there. I only hear you for once in a while on the show, you know. But you ever, the thing about Norm McDonald's, he doesn't even have to talk about anything.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Like, he doesn't have to have, he, there are funny people that are funny because of what they say is funny and they say funny things or how they say it is funny. Norm McDonald's, you ever go to the, you know, the grocery store? And you go, how's this guy that much of a genius? He's a big sports guy, too. No, he's one of the comedic geniuses of my life. Yeah. He's just brilliant. I can pretty much do anything, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:51 Hey, Jerry Jones, big day for Jerry. Guy signed Zeke. Yeah. Yeah, I've been watching the show, so I've been catching out of yet. His analogies are what always get me. We have a certain amount of pie that we can divvy up. What we did was we found pies from future years. and divvied up those pies and brought them to this year,
Starting point is 00:40:14 kind of a back-to-the-fut-tub time machine kind of thing. And what we did is we divvied up that pie, gave some pie to Zik, and gave some pie to other players, so we will have enough pie. Well, we could have gone with cake. If we'd have had cake, cake does not have a hard outer layer. But pie does.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Pie does. Now, by the way, Jerry likes to talk. So I would imagine, also the Texas Twang gives you, Yeah, there's something there. Listen, it makes it more memorable. Jerry, to me, talks more than any owner in sports, and we said this yesterday, there is no number two. No, he's the only, but he's the only owner
Starting point is 00:40:47 that's more famous than everybody on the team. That's a good point. Think about that. Like, what other owner is anywhere near that? Like you said, number one, no number two. But he's got commercials. What other, I buy my pizza, eat my pizza. What other owner?
Starting point is 00:41:03 You don't even know who they are. Now, you. That was almost you there. We don't even know who they are. I don't. Do you do that? Like at the beginning of the show, it's always funny. Ah!
Starting point is 00:41:11 Do you do that when you introduce yourself? I do. I am Colin Cowherd, and this is my wife. What's so funny about that? I don't think that's funny at all. You do a Jay Glazer. That's unbelievable. You know, that's one of the things.
Starting point is 00:41:25 You come out here and you think you're going to get some information. Listen, on my way here, I actually worked out on my way to a workout. That's what you're going to work out. Dwayne the Rock Johnson. You guys know, Dwayne the Rock Johnson. It's not a big name as I am, but he's a pretty big guy. Pretty strong guy, a little bit taller than me. But we work out together, and I'm like, Dwayne, come out, put some more weight on there.
Starting point is 00:41:41 I just got done, and he can't lift it. You're thinking about, hey, this guy's in Jumanji? Come on, man, get another board game. We're watching, sorry right now. Don't give me the finger. That's a point. Why are you going to slow me down? Do you know how hard I work?
Starting point is 00:41:52 Do you know how hard I work? Every day, I wake up four in the morning, take a nap, but then I get back up and I get phone calls. It's an incredible amount of phone calls. People are actually texting me about the phone calls I'm about to get. It's incredible stuff. Nobody works this hard. Right now, I'm actually sensitive.
Starting point is 00:42:07 it's hard to sit here because I'm just a ball of energy. And he man the movie, I would have been rain, I would have been a ram man. You ever see that guy? No. Just run through a building. It's unbelievable. Now, there are guys that are hard to impersonate.
Starting point is 00:42:17 I hear, and this one, I can't believe. Because I, like, again, Jay Glazer is got such a personality. Cadence, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And then some guys, Jerry Jones and George W. Bush, Texas people can, you got to be careful because they can sound the same. You do an Andrew Luck. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I'm so into Glazer right now. I've got to come back. Okay, come back. Gosh. Andrew Luck is kind of that thing where his teeth are kind of matching up. It's very, I'm struggling. I'm going back to me and I'm not even trying to do it. I just got to text.
Starting point is 00:42:46 Work more on the Andrew Luck. It's going to get there. So it's a teeth thing with luck. Yeah, because his teeth kind of just match up exactly where it is. So, yeah. It's pretty, it sounds like. It's getting there. Yeah, it's tough because if I do a lot of stuff with energy,
Starting point is 00:42:59 certain impressions are really good with the energy. And some of them I get so worked up that my throat has to come back for it. But Andrew Luck is like a Muppet version of Wolverine from the X-Men. You think the clause is going to come up, but then I want to just give you a big hug. That's pretty good. Now, when you first did John Madden, and again, that gave you some profound notoriety, Madden initially didn't love it. Yeah, you know, you go out there and people in sports are not used to being made fun of by people outside of sports.
Starting point is 00:43:36 mocked. Yeah, and I don't think of it like that. I like the people. Usually when people meet me, I met Madden at the Super Bowl in Dallas years ago, and I made his grandkids laugh. And when I made his grandkids laugh, I was like, I get it. No, this guy makes small children laugh. I mean, it's unbelievable. I mean, people were telling me all the reasons he didn't like me. Like, you said, in a sketch you killed him. I'm like, I don't remember doing anything like that. Well, no, no, I mean, I mean, John's affinity, John had kind of a circular, I think one of the funniest things was, stuff always came down to a basic premise. And the simple present was that's what it's all about. That's what that's all about. You know, you think of those things you do and the things you don't do in between those two things. I mean, that's pretty much...
Starting point is 00:44:19 If you watch it on the season, the first episode of the season of Hard Knocks, he's just talking about the seven-man sleds. I mean, you get up, you do the seven-man sled. You don't do a six-man slatter and eight-man sled because, I mean, there's no reason to do that. Now, Gruden embraced it from the first second.
Starting point is 00:44:36 I'm not sure. I don't know. It was set up for him to get to know me better. Because the first time I met him, he's just making that. And that's what I know. This is what John looks like in the hallway and my former employer. I thought what, man. It's tremendous right here.
Starting point is 00:44:51 When I'm talking about tremendous, when you're looking at it, man. Like he's, he's doing that. It's like he's always doing karaoke in his head and following the bouncing ball, that kind of thing. But he's like, I go up to him as like, so you're a guy that does me, huh? I'm like, yeah, he's like, where are you from? And I looked up where he was from. So I said that. I was like, Sandusky Ohio.
Starting point is 00:45:08 He's like, really? I'm like, no, he's like, good because you were blowing my mind. Do you do, now you do a lot of sports people. And that's what I know you for. And that's why you appear on sports shows. I imagine there's a handful of other celebrities, Hollywood stuff at all. Oh, yeah. I mean, there's quite a few.
Starting point is 00:45:28 It's the weird ones that I really like. The Jeff Goldblum is very odd, very crazy. Why, why, why, why? You're pointing at me. I love Jeff Goldblum. Yes, of course. It would be a guest. be incredible why Colin
Starting point is 00:45:37 was right and why Colin was what wrong that's very good and I've had him on the show before oh have you really he's eccentric very weird plays a piano bar and Los Phyllis and there isn't even a piano there huh how do you do that huh I yeah I played
Starting point is 00:45:54 the piano once it was just stepped in it you know ah sounds like Calliando stepped in it right there because he didn't have a joke very good I tell you what man I have no idea what's going on right now does anybody understand this I mean, he's going for voice to voice. There's no jokes at this point.
Starting point is 00:46:07 But at least he got back to me. That was the best part. The best part was me. And then it got off track for a little bit. It got a little bit less interesting. And now it's back to be an interesting. Thank goodness. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Now, George W. Bush, the younger George. Yeah. What was, and I, by the way, I think he's one of the most decent people. If you told me there's two presidents in my lifetime that I think are just wonderful people, is Jimmy Carter and George Bush. Well, I like Obama too, but I can put my arms around him. I think they're nice people. I don't have to agree with their politics.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Right. But I like him as guys. So I would think he would like it, although your impersonation of him was kind of cutting. It was always silly. I look at it as being silly. I don't try. It was kind of that he didn't get what was going on,
Starting point is 00:46:47 but a lot of times he was in the camera, just not understanding what was happening. And that's just the, you know, that's, what are we talking about? That's just, that's what I always. I'll tell you what we're talking about. We're talking about how hard I work. Does anybody have any, any of you guys on here,
Starting point is 00:47:02 understand how hard I work? I got up at 4 o'clock in the morning. Did I tell you that yet? We'll tell you six more times. I actually got up four times at four o'clock in the morning. That's 16 times. Multiplication. By the way, you...
Starting point is 00:47:11 By the way, I'm going to count backwards by threes from $197, 94, 91, 86. No, man, I just 86 that one. I'd be screwed it up, man. Those wide receivers got it tougher than you thought. Now, you don't do me, but years ago, you were in the Sherman Oak studio. That's where Jim Rall made prominence. That's where Jim's great career started. and now I don't know how Rome takes it,
Starting point is 00:47:35 but I think it's a great compliment to Jimmy that you do a very funny Romney. Probably a great impression to do right now. Your show just got a lot better. How great is this? I'm getting ready to pause for no reason whatsoever. Done. How great was that?
Starting point is 00:47:52 Incredible. Do not interrupt the pause, is Colin. Incredible. I think you're excellent. Phenomenal. I love your work. Arugula. Tell you what, man.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Arugula, that's a great lettuce right there, You know how hard I work? I work. Bring in the lettuce. That's all. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, man. Frank Caliando. Great seeing you. Yeah, there's a beer.
Starting point is 00:48:19 Last night, a blown call changed a game. This morning, the internet lost its mind. And nobody's telling you exactly what happened. That's where sports slice comes in. I'm Timbo. And every episode, we're cutting through the noise, breaking down the biggest moments in sports and giving you the real story behind the headline.
Starting point is 00:48:36 we're going straight to the source, the athletes themselves. Their locker room stories, their reactions in the moment, and the stuff nobody gets to hear. Listen to Sports Slice on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And for more, follow Timbo Sliced Life 12 in the TikTok podcast network on TikTok. Another podcast from some SNL late night comedy guy, not quite. Unhumor me with Robert Smigel and friends. Me and hilarious guests from Bob Odenkirk to David Letterman help make you funnier. This week, my guest, S&L's Mikey Day and headwriter, Streeter Seidel,
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Starting point is 00:49:28 I'm bringing you conversations about all kinds of stuff. Like being an internet famous referee. We're in the middle of a game. This linebacker walks up to me, he goes, hey, ref, my mom wants you to wave at her. What? Time out. Quarterback on office blue with 42. Hey, rec, my mama want you to wave at her.
Starting point is 00:49:49 What? Where's she at? Hey, Ms. Parker. Listen to the Cliverts show on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, fam? It's Isaiah Thomas. And I'm C.J. Toledano. It's our favorite time of the year.
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