The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 09/24/2018

Episode Date: September 24, 2018

Colin says Clay Matthews needs to learn how to tackle better because this new rule protecting QBs is smart for the league. He talks about where he was right and wrong over the weekend. Plus, Super Bowl Champion QB Trent Dilfer comes in studio to discuss how good Baker Mayfield can be and whether Patrick Mahomes’ success is sustainable. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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This is the best of the herd with Colin Cowher on Fox Sports Radio. Ah! This is the herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, live in Los Angeles. Iheart Radio, Fox Sports Radio,

FS1. Jamie Maggio is joining me again today. Joy Taylor's apparently under the weather a little bit. It is great to have you here. Thank you, Colin. You are a football fan. I am a football fan. This is a great day of the week for us. We love Mondays. I got Michael Vick on today's show, Trent Dilfer, James Harrison. We'll go to the Bay Area where a former NFL scout will tell us about the growing concerns about Jimmy Garoppolo.

I want to start with this. Getting soft. Everybody's getting soft. NFL's getting soft. Can't believe they're getting soft. Driving me crazy getting soft. Can't hit anybody getting soft. I hear this all the time. I hear it in baseball.

I hear it in football. I hear it in culture. I hear it in politics. I hear it in life. I hear it in relationships. I'm over the getting soft thing. Let me ask you that we no longer in America allow people. people to work for 17 hours a day in a factory at 85 degrees.

Are we getting soft or did we get smarter? That we've reduced and restricted fraternities in America because of hazing deaths and alcohol-related deaths. Are we getting soft in America? Or are we finally concerned about 17 and 18-year-old kids in fraternities? I don't buy getting soft. We have camps in America. there's the camp that's like, hey, I like the old days.

You know, dad could beat the kid into submission. And then there's the smart people who go, we should probably treat people better. Myself, I don't believe in reincarnation, and I don't know if there's a heaven. I'm here once. I'd like to treat other people well, and hopefully they treat me well. And it starts with the NFL embodies and Clay Matthews is outraged because every time he hit somebody, they call a penalty. And I would say this, learn to tackle better. Quit complaining.

I've been hearing about this for years in all four sports. In the NBA, you can't tackle people. The good news is skill in basketball is now rewarded. You have to be able to shoot to play. What do you know? In hockey, tough guys are gone. Clutching, grabbing, gone. Skill in hockey is emphasized.

Translation, tickets are expensive. Stars flourish. And in the NFL, you can't vote. violently jam your 278 pounds on a quarterback. Translation, skill, stars are emphasized. Don't like it when you're 15. Try to be a quarterback. A left tackle.

A wide receiver or running back. This idea that America is getting soft, the NFL's going in the right direction. How do I know it's the right direction? Did you watch the Green Bay Packers when Aaron Rogers wasn't there last year? They were the Cleveland Browns. Did you watch the Cleveland Browns this past Thursday? highest-readed Cleveland Brown game in years.

Why? Because they had a quarterback. We're not watching for tackles. Fantasy sports rewards offensive players. We're getting smarter. We're not getting softer. By the way, the number one commodity in the NFL is the Dallas Cowboys. In 2014, they were like 12 and 4.

The next year, Tony Romo got hit, hurt. They were 4 and 12, and they were totally unwatchable. The same fans that yell and scream were getting soft. We're getting soft. You're the same fan that screams when LeBron James takes a regular season game off. I pay to see LeBron James. Oh, wait, excuse me, Stars Matter. So you don't want LeBron James taking a regular season game off.

You want to... Tickets in sports have never been more expensive. We've never asked more of the typical American fan to pay more for tickets. Do you want to go and watch Brett Hunley? Or do you want to go and watch Aaron Rogers? I got nothing against Clay Matthew. But pilots have to be retrained. Surgeons and mechanics have to be retrained.

Why is he getting all the penalties? There's a reason Hollywood has stuntmen so Tom Hanks and Denzel don't get hurt. You ever go to a play? The worst thing you can hear is playing the Phantom of the Opera tonight is the understudy. There's a reason yesterday that Tiger Woods ratings were up 250 percent. because 95% of the guys on the tour, when you're paying that expensive PGA pass, you couldn't give a rip about. Stars matter.

The NFL is trying to protect them. The same way we're trying to protect factory workers, the same way we're trying to protect 18-year-old boys and fraternities and men and women in the military. It's like there's two camps in America. I'm glad I'm on the right one, which is I don't believe in reincarnation, and I don't know what happens after I die. So the body I have and the bodies of my kids and the bodies of my friends and my wives, let's treat them better. Let's not drive them into the ground. This is a rule that should have been emphasized 25 years ago. Go to YouTube and watch Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana and Troy

Aikman being driven into the ground. Yeah, they're probably over-calling it right now. That's okay. But if you're a guy that can't evolve and you think we're getting soft here, and you're constantly concerned that your manhood's being challenged, wake up. Hockey baseball, you can't run over the catcher anymore. What was the value of that? You can't bulldoze over a second basement anymore in baseball. Hockey, the goons are gone. Now you get, you know, great players making the Stanley Cup final.

In the NBA, no more tackling people. Can't shoot, can't play. It's the way it should be. I don't go to watch guys get tackled. I go to watch guys make great offensive plays. I pay watch Kobe. I pay to watch LeBron. I pay to watch Steph.

I don't pay to watch a power forward who gets nine rebounds and tackles people. Clay Matthews, after the game is furious. Here he is again this week. Lamenting, complaining, I can't believe it. Here's Clay Matthews. Unfortunately, this league's going in a direction. I think a lot of people don't like. You know, I think they're getting soft.

And the only thing hard about this league is the fines that they levy down on guys like me who play the game hard. I like the spirit of the rule. I just think they're going in the wrong. direction with this. Okay, so he likes the spirit of the rule. So he gets the spirit of the rule. Let's not hurt our quarterbacks. He thinks they've gone a little too far. We can argue about that. But we are going in the right direction. In society, we're going in the right direction. Getting smarter, not tougher. Tough guy never wins. Smart guy always does. Let me shift gears to this. New England Patriots aren't good. Not a shock.

I said before this season, I'll say it again. I just don't think they have perimeter skill. I don't think they're dynamic enough. I just don't see it. I mean, they're a top 10 team because coaching and quarterback play matters, but did you watch them last night? That took them their fourth drive in the second quarter to get a first down. Josh Gordon wasn't a cagey move.

Josh Gordon was absolute desperation by the Patriots. I mean, two for nine on third down, 12 first downs, 120 yards passing, 4.3 yards of pass, and they only had the ball for 21 minutes. If you're Tom Brady, I got a question. Pretend for a second, you're Tom Brady. I know it's hard.

Super amount of life, $500 million in net worth, eight Super Bowls. But pretend you're Tom Brady for a second. You're looking around at your team. You don't pay anybody. You're taking pay cuts. Is Tom Brady ever going? Where's the money going here?

Anybody thought about that? The L.A. Rams are apparently using a bank in Zurich that prints money, and the Patriots are using a credit union that's tapped. Because Gromk makes pretty good money. Devin McCordy makes pretty good money. Stefan Gilbert makes pretty good money. But who are they paying? It reminds me of that movie casino.

Or people are just dropping their wallets on the table as you go downstairs and they're skimming it and somebody's getting a bag full of money and driving off downtown. Where's the money going? Where are the players? Kansas City Chiefs are paying people. The Rams are paying people. I'm watching Pittsburgh's paying all sorts of people. Does Brady ever look around and go, time out?

I'm the best quarterback that's ever played. I'm taking a pay cut. The New England Patriots kicker. The kicker is a bigger cap hit than any of their receivers and any of their backs. You wonder why Brady and Freddie and Belichick's relationships gone south. Maybe that's it. If you keep telling the world's best football player to keep taking pay cuts,

and he looks around and I got Philip Dorset receiver who was a bust in indie, Cordell Patterson is a return guy. Josh Gordon is a complete desperation movie. He wasn't even on heads last night. Brand new guy trying to learn the playbook. He's wandering around the sidelines. Wouldn't you have an earpiece in? Wouldn't you be listening to the calls?

Wouldn't you be trying to figure out the offense? You got Chris Hogan who, you know, is Chris Hogan. Oh, I got Julian Edelman off an ACL suspended for a month. And then there's Gronk who's got nine guys from Detroit draped all over him on every play. I mean, at some point, where's the money going? It feels like a casino in the 60s. Somebody's pulling up to the money pit downstairs, getting a bag full of it and driving off. Where are the profits?

Belichick's a defensive guy. He's willing to pay McCordy a little and Stefan Gilmore and Dante Hightower. The backs, it's Walmart. The receivers, it's target. The offensive line, it's below that. They won't pay a left tackle. They won't play a back. They won't pay a receiver.

I mean, good luck. In fact, Brady talked about this after the game. This is a word that can drive me crazy because I do believe in execution. I do believe in football. Executions are really important thing. But I also think talents are really important thing. The Jags defense, they pay money for it. It's talent.

And the Steelers' offense is great. And they pay for it. And Kansas City's offense. And the Rams, you know, you've got to pay for things in life, right? You can't pay $7 grand and drive off with the Bentley. You know, you're not going to pay for a top stake, $9. You've got to pay for some stuff in life. Execution can't be the answer to everything.

Here's Tom Brady after last night's loss. I mean, we're not scoring enough points. We're not executing well enough on a down-by-down basis, certainly. a high level that we should have our expectations set at. Two weeks we, you know, you get behind and just not make enough plays early in the game. And we're behind and we're just fighting them to pill all day. So it's no way to play football. It's no way to, you know, execute at a very high level.

And we're just not doing anything well enough. Execute. What Tom Brady's not mad there, by the way. He's not mad. He's frustrated. Mad is, I got a bunch of good dudes and we played like crap. What you're watching Tom Brady there say is he's not angry. He's frustrated.

He's frustrated because he has to execute perfectly to win games. Hell, forget winning games. He has to execute perfectly to get first downs. The world's best chef, you can't give him six-day-old fish and stale bagels. You've got to give him some ingredients here. I mean, we all know the great chefs can make. good ingredients great and average stuff good. They can't take average and make it world class.

Gordon Ramsey needs fresh vegetables. Okay? Bobby Flay needs good vegetables here. We got a problem in New England. Everybody's taking a pay cut. Where's the money? The Rams using a different bank? Kansas City and the Steelers using a different bank.

Philadelphia using a different bank. Maybe it's time to change credit unions, New England, because I don't see where the money's at. You got nothing, nothing at all to work with. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeart Radio app. Is decision making totally underrated? Think about it in this terms. Think about how many decisions you make a day as a human being. What you're going to wear in the morning, which exit to take to get to work, going to get coffee, not going to get coffee, things you say to bosses, coworkers, get home, all the decisions. Let's just say that you made two decisions a day, two better than me.

Just two a day. That's it. And I would say all of us make dozens of decisions a day. But you were a little smarter than me than over the course of a day, twice you made a better decision. That would be 14 times a week, 56 times a month, 56 times 12 is 600, what, 75? you would make 675 decisions a year. Better than me. Think you'd have a better life?

Over a decade, 10 years, 675 a year, 6,000 some decisions or more, think you'd be more successful than me and happier than me? All you've got to do is make two dumb decisions a day. And they don't even have to be dumb, they just have to be the wrong decision. Be a good decision maker. Life's fast. Choose wisely. Choose thoughtfully. I told you last week about Jimmy Garoppolo of the Niners. I told you last week that I talked to an NFL executive last week.

And he said Kyle Shanahan, who's really bright and intense, would struggle with Jimmy Garoppolo during this building process for the next couple of years. He said, Jimmy G. does not have the self-awareness of Tom Brady. from the food Tom meets to what he drinks and doesn't drink, to the trainer he uses, to the things he says publicly, to the things he does publicly. Tom's decision making is brilliant. Jimmy Garoppolo got hurt again because of Jimmy Garoppolo.

Dude, there's nine chiefs surrounding you. Get out of bounds. What are you doing? Justin Houston of the chiefs yesterday said, that injury, I feel bad, but it was Jimmy G's fault. That was his fault I pray he's not hurt Nothing serious but as a quarterback

You should step out of bounds It's only an inch That ain't wouldn't made a difference You got the yards you need You step out of bounds You got to be smart and think about your team Okay your quarterback's your pilot All right Maverick

I don't need all these rolls and twists Why don't you land the puppy You're a pilot of the franchise Get the bird down safely I don't need to see the Grand Canyon off to my right or the Alps off to my left. I don't need twisting rolls. Okay, we're not here. You're not a fighter pilot. You're working for Delta. Get the bird down. That, that injury, just like the one in New England, was on Jimmy Garapolo, who tried to extend to play when there's an old

saying in the NFL for quarterbacks, live for another down. That's why Eli never gets hurt. It's why Brady never gets hurt. It's why sometimes Aaron Rogers does. Live for another play. This is a guy. By the way, interception. percentage in the NFL? Brady didn't have the best arm. He's got the best interception percentage. He doesn't throw him. Either does Alex Smith. Either does Aaron Rogers. It's decision making. And this is not a kid. Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold and Josh Allen are going to make mistakes. Their babies, their puppies. This guy's going to be 28 soon. He's been in the league five years. Do better. Be smarter. That's why when he came out and was on a date publicly after his

big contract with an adult film star in Beverly Hills with TMZ. swimming around the building. Dude, do better. Be smarter. This, I mean, you got to do better than that. Now, I know the average of a young guy, 23-year-old watching my show, it's no big deal. That's why you'll never have the corner office, bra.

That's why. Decisions are important. Just butcher two a day. It's 14 a week, 56 a month, 675 a year, and 6,000 or more over a decade. This is what I was told. that the Patriots, the difference between Brady and Garapolo, they're both handsome, they're both quarterbacks, they're both talented, was decision-making.

Tom is a quick, twitchy, thinking quarterback who eats right, who thinks right, who talks right, who audibles out of hits. That injury is on Jimmy G. And that is what I was told last week. I said it on the air twice that an executive said, Shanahan, Jimmy G's going to drive him nuts. because Shanahan is going a thousand miles an hour upstairs. And Shanahan's looking at that video this morning. Garopolo's probably out for the year,

and he's looking at that video thinking, what are you doing? You're our pilot. What are you doing roles and twist for? Land the plane. Get out of bounds. That injury should never, ever happen. And it's not a coincidence.

It doesn't happen to the smarter guys in the pocket in this league. It just doesn't. I mean, I'm not saying injuries don't happen. You got Clay Matthews chasing you around a football field, and you're going to get hurt once in a while. But that's on Jimmy G. Hi, everybody, it's the herd. Here's why I'm a big fan of Simply Safe home security.

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which was the security blanket for DAC. That has not helped. We knew that Des Bryant was still a capable receiver and a decent deep threat at times, and he's gone. So some of this, we know he lost weapons. And they didn't replace him with anything more than, you know, Alan Hurnd is a possession guy. Tavon Austin's overpaid, was in L.A., is now in Dallas.

Here's the thing. The Cowboys have a decision to make real soon. Remember what Peter Schrager said about this season on our show a couple of weeks ago in terms of where Dak got drafted and when the Cowboys can start to look for another guy? Dak Prescott went on day three, a fourth round pick. So what does that mean? It means that he only has a four-year contract and he can start negotiating at the end of this season. So a contract is looming for Dak. If he is not great and they

take a big step back, don't expect them to back up the Brinks trucks just because he was good three years ago. Now, here's three things the Cowboys have going for them. Because I don't think it would be crazy to draft another quarterback. Even if you played Dak for a year, here's three things the Cowboys got going for him. This looks like a five and 11 or six and 10 team. They're going to be near the top 10, much closer to the top 10. Now, their schedules workable for the next month. It really is. It gets brutal in November and December. They end up their last two months of this NFL season. If they don't have it cooking offensively, they could go 0 and 8. Okay, it's pretty workable now. If you look at their remaining schedule, Detroit, Houston, Jags, Redskins, Titans,

these are not a lot of firepower teams. Then you start facing real offenses at Carson Wentz, at Matt Ryan, Drew Brees, Philadelphia Eagles, Andrew Luck, Giants look good yesterday. You'd be in New York. Tampa scoring points. Tons of good offensive players. So you've got to make hey, but the good news for the Cowboys is, number one is it looks like they'll be closer to the top 10 than in previous years. Number two is they have several young tradable pass rushers.

They've got an abundance of good young pass rushers and outside a quarterback. The one thing everybody in this league is looking for is pass rushers. except apparently the Oakland Raiders and John Gruden. Here's the third thing. And it's a weird year in the NFL. This is an anomaly, an aberration. Who needs a quarterback? I'm going to put the bad teams, and it's early I know,

but the bad teams in three food groups, the winless teams, Arizona, Oakland, Houston, Pittsburgh. They're not drafting quarterbacks. So if those teams ended up in the top 10, the Steelers just spent a third round pick on Mason Rudolph, and that ticked off Big Ben. They're not drafting another guy because Ben's around for two or three more years. So the winless teams, if they're a heady in the draft, don't need a quarterback.

Here's the one and two teams. Patriots probably get it corrected and win at least nine games this year. They're not going to be anywhere near the top ten. The bills have a quarterback. The Jets have a quarterback. The Colts have a quarterback. The Giants appear to be locked into Eli for several more years. Lions have a quarterback.

Atlanta's got a quarterback. Seattle's got a quarterback. San Francisco's got a quarterback. Now, I think the Chargers do need to draft one here in the next two years, but they're certainly not as desperate as the Dallas Cowboys. Now, there is one quarterback. So my point is, if the Cowboys finish 6 and 10, 7, and 9, they'll be drafting what, like 11th?

They got multiple pass rushers. They could trade one and get into that top 7, top 8. And the teams above them don't need quarterbacks. They're really stinkeruny teams in this league. A lot of reasons they stink. it's because they have young quarterbacks and they don't have the weapons, but they're not going to draft another quarterback. So Dallas is in a very interesting situation going into next year.

They may be drafted a quarterback. By the way, they've got good pass rushers, a good old line, a star running back. All they need are receivers and maybe a quarterback. And it's a bizarre year where nobody needs a quarterback, especially the lousy teams near the top of the draft. I mean, New England's up there now, but they won't be. and there's one quarterback in college. I've been told this by people that I absolutely trust in scouting.

The kid at Oregon, Justin Herbert, 6-5, mobile with a cannon. He is really special. In fact, there are people in the NFL, and you know how much I like Sam Darnold that believe Justin Herbert is the most talented quarterback prospect in two years. That includes Baker, Rosen, Donald, and Josh Allen. Mason, Rudolph, too. And Lamar Jackson, there are people that believe the kid at Oregon, Justin Herbert, is the best quarterback prospect.

Would have been number one prospect if he was available last year. Big, mobile, and a huge arm. It was on display this weekend. So if you're going to, if you don't like DAC and you're freaking out here, the combination of you're not very good, you'll be near the top of the draft. You have pass rushers to trade multiple, multiple pass rushers. What a great position to have depth in. And nobody needs a quarterback. So if you get tired of DAC and you've got a superstar out there, you have a, let me tell you something.

That kid's good. That kid's special. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern, 9 a.m. Pacific. Every Monday at this time, where Colin was right, where Colin was wrong, there's plenty of both. So now we're number two to start off. Here we go. Colin was right? Had a great weekend on Blazing Five.

The Blazing Five was four and one, and I went with upsets. I went for the ugly New York Giants over the Texans. We got it. I went for Washington shocking Green Bay upset. We got it. I also had the bet of the year last week, a $1,000 bet on Cleveland and Baker Mayfield. I didn't know if Baker would play. So overall, we were five and one on our bets.

We've had three straight winning weeks, and I've already looked at, at the odds for next week. And Baker-Baker Touchdown Maker. Very tasty Cleveland Brown line out there. We'll talk about that more tomorrow on the show. Where Colin was wrong. Josh Allen,

Bill's quarterback, I said of all the guys in the current draft of the five quarterbacks, I thought he had the highest bus potential. Accuracy issues, didn't play against great competition. I've got to tell you, give Buffalo coaches credit. Smart, safe, throw.

game plan and he's very comfortable running and you can see they're jumping. He had two rushing touchdowns. He's a big time athlete. Now coming into the draft, we said he has a little big band. He can be a little reckless. He's got a huge arm and he likes to run. Can we stop this to the Nathan Peterman experiments? Over the last two years, the only times where Buffalo has been unwatchable is during the Nathan Peterman experiments. Let's just keep, just keep Josh Allen in. He's going to make mistakes. All the Sundays aren't going to look like that.

But I never thought in a million years, if you'd have told me before the season starts, that Josh Allen kid from Wyoming would go to Minnesota and the Vikings couldn't stop him for three quarters. That I would not have predicted. Where Colin was right? Every year there's a team in the NFL that's excellent on the precipice of winning the Super Bowl, and they suddenly pull back. And my prediction was the Minnesota Vikings. I said they're not going to be 13 and 3.

They're going to be closer to 9 and 7. And I'm not sure they're going to make the playoffs, although I think they're very, very talented. New coach, new quarterback, new coordinator, I should say. Well, they're 1-1-1. They are 17th in points. Offensively, Kirk Cousins has been incredibly sporadic. And I like Kirk.

But man, it took Matt Ryan two years to work out the kinks with Kyle Shanahan. You can't expect a coordinator to come into the building and a quarterback to figure it all out in an hour and a half. They just don't look right offensively. By the way, next two games, at the Rams and at the Eagles, it's not getting easier. The Vikings have clearly taken somewhat of a step back, and we were right. Where Colin was wrong.

I really liked Deshawn Watson coming out of college. I didn't know if he was a number one draft pick quarterback, but I liked him, and I've supported Bill O'Brien for the last several years. I think he gets the most out of average quarterbacks. They may need a new coach because it appears, Here's that Bill O'Brien, the head coach, is better with T.J. Yates and Ryan Fitzpatrick than Deshawn Watson. Deshawn Watson does not look comfortable.

Now, he could use a running game. We know their offensive line is rebuilding in one of the poorest, but they're 26 in points. And my takeaway, Deshaun Watson, he's regressed. And they're not playing an offense he's comfortable with. He's making incredibly poor throws. And, you know, coming off an injury, maybe they're too safe. Maybe they're too conservative. but I like DeShan and I like Bill O'Brien

and they look poorly coached and lost right now. Where Colin was right? But I did tell you that I didn't buy John Gruden as a Raiders head coach. He's 0 and 3. There was a report this weekend about infighting in the front office. He's created his own drafting scouting crew and they're not communicating with the general manager scouting department. They could certainly use Khalil Mack.

They get no pressure on anybody. And they've also surrendered the most second half points. They're not adjusting well. I mean, Ryan Tannahill yesterday was amaze balls. Sacked only once, 290 yards, three touchdowns, as good as Ryan Tannihill as perhaps ever looked. It's not that I don't think Gruden can coach. But when Joe Gibbs went to NASCAR for years and came back,

it wasn't pretty for a year. And Gruden tends to be very authoritarian in that he wants to run the show. He's not terribly interested in your opinion. And I think players these days have stronger opinions and more opinions and Gruden's floundering right now. Where Colin was wrong. I never buy Big 12 quarterbacks. It's one of the reasons I said, slow down on Patrick Mahomes,

and I don't know about Baker Mayfield. It's a pillow fight conference. Everybody's got four and five wide. Nobody plays defense. Then you come to the NFL, and it's a slap in the forehead. Well, Patrick Mahomes leads the NFL in touchdowns, and Baker Mayfield, is only a two and a half-point underdog of Oakland and Derek Carr on the road.

Baker looked really nice, and Mahomes looks incredible. And I have been somebody for years that if you're a big 12 quarterback, I'm just done. I've seen like 19 straight guys fail. Sam Bradford had the most talent and can't stay healthy. But it looks like Mahomes is a star, and Baker looks certainly more than competent. So I may have to retract that. Where Colin was right? Listen, I don't believe there's a lot of guys you should pay a fourth.

fortune two on the defensive side. But the Raiders had to pay Khalil Mack. I mean, he's done everything so far in the NFL season, but save a child from a burning building. The guy's incredible. He won the game yesterday, not Mitch Trubisky. Once again, sacks for spumbles. He has more sacks and more force fumbles than the entire Raider defense.

He led the Bears to the win yesterday. Listen, I'm all for trading people. you do not trade superstars at quarterback, left tackle, pass rusher. And especially when they're the best guy in the building. This was a mistake. He's never going to live it down. Sometimes the media can be lazy to apathetic and not pay attention. But when you trade a superstar and he's going to be facing Aaron Rogers twice a year

and leading your team in sacks, you did not trade from an area of strength. He was your only pass rusher, and he has paid massive dividends so far. Where Colin was wrong. Tiger Woods won a legit PGA tournament, the Tour Championship, which is filled with the top 30A PGA golfers. He led by five at one point. My question about Tiger is always been, I didn't think he could put four great rounds together.

It wasn't just physical. It was emotional. The guy's gone through a ton over the last decade, and I did. didn't feel that he was buttoned up above the shoulders. Well, the Ryder Cup is this weekend. Now, the Ryder Cup has played somewhere, so it's going to be on really, like, Paris. It's going to be really crazy hours. I'm not sure how many people are going to see it.

But, you know, I really doubted Tiger. I said, yeah, maybe he'll win some hacky, you know, tournament that, you know, very few guys play. But I didn't think he'd win a tournament like this. And he did. And he put it together for four weekends. And, frankly, he's the only guy on the tour outside of maybe Phil Mickelson that I I really want to watch on a Sunday. By the way, the Tiger Phil Mickelson matchup in Vegas.

Thanksgiving weekend, count me in now. I actually want to watch it. Where Colin was right? Can we never ever put Dak Prescott and Russell Wilson in the same sentence? Did you watch the game yesterday? Folks, how many times do I have to convince people that Russell Wilson is just a big play star? Shaky, shaky, wide receiving unit. shaky offensive line.

Depending now on a rookie running back, Russell Wilson's quarterback rating was 109.8. Dax was 54.5. Dack doesn't throw the ball downfield when he runs around. Russell Wilson, and this is why I love him, even when he's under constant duress, he is always keeping his eyes downfield. He made a couple sensational plays yesterday.

And again, I know I'm from Seattle, and I know I personally like Russell Wilson, but he led the NFL in touchdown passes last year with the lowest rated offensive line. Deshawn Watson now has the lowest rated offensive line. How's he look? We're looking at an all-time quarterback talent here. And last night, with a great Dallas pass rush. I mean, that's the strength now at Dallas's team. I think their pass rush is better than their own line.

And he had no problems maneuvering. where Colin was right? Everybody's freaking out about Paul George doesn't want to play with LeBron and Kauai doesn't want to play with LeBron. Oh, it's interesting. Do you see who signed yesterday with Rich Paul of Clutch Sports? Rich Paul, of course, is one of LeBron's dudes.

He runs Clutch Sports. He's the super agent. Oh, Anthony Davis, who will be available in a couple of years? Folks, you think LeBron's going after the little fish. He's going after Paul George. No, he's going after Kevin Durant. You heard it here first. And he's going

after Anthony Davis. LeBron didn't go to L.A. to play with B-plus guys. LeBron is going after Kevin Durant and Anthony Davis. And yesterday

Anthony Davis signed with Agent Rich Paul of Clutch sports. LeBron's guys signing one of the five best players in the NBA. One more herd? The herd

streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. A friend of mine for all... Yes, 14. Not 13. We've upgraded it. Trent Dilfer, Super Bowl, a Pro Bowl. So I got you... I didn't know you were here

today. Yeah? I had no idea. Just in town doing some stuff with Brancis for NFL Network. Oh, this is such a pleasure for me. All right, let's start with this. I was saying earlier, even a great chef needs some ingredients. That's why all the great chefs on a Saturday morning,

they go to the market and they get the freshest stuff. I watch the Patriots, and we want to blame Tommy. Doesn't have a ton to work with on the perimeter, does he? He doesn't. And they've gotten away for years without dynamic threats outside the numbers. Randy Moss is obviously the one exception to that. And they've built an incredible machine working the middle of the field and then finding guys that in certain matchups can win outside.

To me, this is how they're trying to play is a little different this year. I think they know they're a growing defense. I think they know they're going to be better six weeks from now than they are right at this moment. Offensively, I see them trying to be a little more ball control, trying to run the ball a little more between the tackles. I think they're trying to shorten the game more than they have in the past. I think this is a transition offense right now. Obviously with Tom Brady, and I watch the game,

and I want them to throw it 45 times with Tom Brady and carve up the defense like they always have, but they're facing overload defenses in the past. It's wise to run the ball between the tackles. They'll set up more big plays in the middle of the field if they do that. And I think this is one of those typical Patriots teams that's going to look much different five weeks from now than they look right now.

But people want, listen, I made the biggest mistake of my TV career after that Kansas City game saying, oh, they were done. They're not going to get better. They're no longer the dynasty we thought they were. And the mistake I mean, I think the mistake everybody makes when they start slow is they forget that they're all about development. They're all about getting better every rep of every day. And let's look at some of the parts when the year is over. You know, the whole NFL is too protective of quarterbacks. I'm old enough to remember when you had guys.

is driving Joe Montana headfirst into the ground. I tend to be a defender of quarterbacks because the game is built now around quarterbacks and the sport, which I love, is better with good quarterbacks. Clay Matthews hit yesterday. What do you make of it? What's your, where do you land on this? We talked about last week. I still need to see data that since they made this emphasis, what, five, six years ago,

that quarterbacks aren't getting hurt as much because I think they're still getting hurt. Jimmy Gropoulos tearing his ACL on the sideline before contact. Quarterbacks every year get hurt and they have nothing to do with how defenders land on them or where they come in at their legs. I love the initiative of player safety and I do think the game has to become less barbaric as it goes on. But that doesn't mean to the extent that they've legislated these rules. They've just gone over the top. They've made silly rules to protect quarterbacks.

making the game the product not nearly as good and games are being decided by calls that shouldn't be called. Yeah. I don't know how I was to say it. I mean, and nothing too. I think it's also it's taking it's taking toughness of the quarterback which is how we earned our pelts in the locker room. You know, you go back and talk to the Hall of Famers, the Marinos, the Elways, the Aikmans and go on and on on. One of the ways they earned their pelts in that locker room was with their physical toughness. It was taking a kill shot, having a guy land on him and bruising a rib or breaking a rib and not missing a snap. It's when I watch people talk about how heroic Aaron Rogers is being, I'm like, no, he's not. He's doing his job. I mean, that's what they all did. They all played

with that same knee injury for years. He's no exception, but we want to take the quarterback and put him in another bucket that he's not a tough guy, that his toughness, that his toughness, doesn't need to be emphasized as much. And I think that's what made the great quarterbacks great more than just their arms and their brains and their leadership was their tough. That position, you should be tough. You should be able to have Clay Matthews land on you and get up and call the play in the huddle and play the next play.

And if you can't, then you are soft. That's a really good point. I got to tell you, so I'm watching Baker Mayfield. And I said it over and over in the draft because people tend to say, well, you said this. and I wanted 30 pieces of tape. I said, and I'll say it again, I don't think he's big enough for number one pick or athletic enough,

especially in a northern division. But he throws a way too accurate football to be a bust. He is simply a significantly better thrower to the football than a Johnny Mansell or a Todd-Rod Taylor. So he's not a bust. He's not. And his nonsense in college wasn't dangerous. It was a little cocky for my taste.

So when I watched him, I couldn't take my eyes off him. I could not take my eyes off him. Did we go, did we hyperventilate? What did you see with Baker that was real, that you really, really liked? He's a tremendous locator. He can locate all three levels of the field. What does that mean to a guy watching my show? If you call it accuracy, I'm so sick of that word.

There's so many different types of accuracy. You know what I mean? You can't put all of accuracy into one buckets. Locating means you look somewhere and that's where you throw the ball. Sometimes you're looking high and outside on a back shoulder fade, and that's where you throw it, not low and inside. Sometimes you look over a defender to feather it over the first layer and get to the second layer. To me, that's location, not accuracy.

But if people want to call it accuracy, great. But there's 20 different types of accuracy. Baker can locate a football wherever he wants. Verzon, man, all three levels. He throws guys open. He has great eyes for throwing guys open. He can see leverage. He knows how to throw it away from a defender and man.

He's truly a gifted thrower. The interesting thing on Baker will be this. Is he going to choose to be a completion guy, which I think he should, or a big play guy, which is going to get him in trouble. Russell Wilson's a little. He's a big play guy. Ben Rutherberg. Ben Rutherberg, big play guy.

Doesn't mean they can't have tremendous completion percentages. But a completion guy is a guy that's going to be death by a thousand cuts. He's going to let you bleed out slowly. He's going to be Drew Brees. He's going to throw it 42 times and complete 31 of them. and four others are going to get dropped. So you think that's what Baker should do? He has to be that because you're right.

He's not a good enough athlete to be a playmaker. He's not big enough to try to extend plays all the time. He will and people go, oh, Colin and Trent were wrong. Looking to make that play. Let's look at the 30 times he tries to make plays as an athlete. And he'll get himself in trouble more often than not. Drew Brie's one of the great athletes at quarterback we've ever seen. Tremendous foot athlete.

Incredible high school college athlete. He even learned early on. I'm going to use this giftedness to just help me get the ball out quicker. And he's the ultimate completion guy. Brady, ultimate completion guy. They'll let the studs around them be the playmakers. They're going to be the dictators. They're going to be the guys and say, listen, we're in play 60 minutes.

I'm a nick you there. I'm a Nicky there. And the next year, you're going to be standing in a puddle of blood. That's what Baker Mayfield needs to be. By the way, so when I look at DACD, Prescott. So last night was classic, because I've been telling people for years, would you stop comparing DAC and Russell?

No, different guys. I mean, Russell Wilson is just, I mean, he's one of those guys where if you're a defensive coordinator, you're just holding your breath until the ball ends incomplete. Because he made a couple of plays last night that you can't defend. They're off script. Can we acknowledge

this? I got two years a tape on DAC, and I got Justin Herbert at Oregon, who is really special. Really special. Okay. All the bad teams have quarterbacks. It's going to be a very bizarre year where Dallas could be six and ten, seven, and nine have the ninth pick and nobody

needs a quarterback. Could I draft Justin Herbert at Oregon and just let him compete? Because when I watch Dak, here's what I see. A really low ceiling. I got two years of games now. I feel very comfortable saying a lot I like

but it's low, Trent. I'm not willing to go there. Here's we all meets you. I think his ceiling is low with the pieces around him right now and with how they're trying to play. They built it around the offensive line with the great runners, Ezekiel Elliott, in the league, and they've gotten rid of pretty much every receiver that can do something with the football. So to play physical run first offense, which they want to do, to complement that, you have to make chunk plays in the passing game.

You can't run for four, throw for four, run for three, throw for four. You've got to run for three, run for four, run for six. throw for 18. Well, you need studs on the outside. I don't think we can determine anything on DAC until they get him a number one playmaker on the premier. But I will say in your scenario. Herbert, Locke, Stidham, McSorley.

Don't look past McSorley at Penn State, even though he's little, but if Baker's doing a McSorley can do it, Greer, Haskins in two years, Tua in two years. You have studs, big time, big time talents coming out of the next couple of drafts of quarterback. And if guys like Dak don't start playing with her better,

heck yeah, I'm drafting one of those guys. Because those guys can be true, I don't want to say generational talents, but true QB-1s in the NFL. Finally, Jimmy G's injury. I watch it and I think, dude, what are you doing? I look at this. I look at a guy's going to blow out his knee. He's going to blow out his knee.

Oh, really? Yeah, it had nothing to do with him staying and bound. He was going to make a move Some other time where he was going to try to juke somebody and stick that left leg in the ground and it was going to go. I spent most of my time watching sports,

now high school sports, college sports. And I see kids non-contact injuries all the time blow out their knees. And I see the same thing in professional sports. And there's not always a reason why. You know what I mean? We don't always say, well, he did it because of this.

It just happens. It's part of sport. Is he injury problem? No, I wouldn't say that. A lot of guys do it. They come back and never get hurt again. I mean, it's just, I mean, just go around the country and look at you sports, look at college sports, look professional sports.

It's happening all the time. Unfortunately, my heart breaks every time I say it happened to a Jimmy G, a kid or whatever, but it's part of sport. You suck it up for a little bit. You rehab your tail off and you come back better and stronger, just like all the other guys have blown out their knees do. By the way, Patrick Mahomes. Oh, Lordy.

what's the strongest arm you've ever seen Brett Farf, not even close. At practice or something. Brett Farver played against him all those years. He has, when they made the Brett Farv comparisons, whoever they were, we all did it come out of the draft. It's the, I sat there and watched it front and center

for his three MVP's. He was kicking our butts in Tampa. He was the best arm, the wiggliest, you know, not maybe the best athlete, but you couldn't really get them. Best playmaker, but also could slice and dice you. If you're going to sit back and play zones,

like they tried to play zone against him. I mean, you see where he looked, he looked at Tyreek Hill on the, they call it a stick nod where he sticks and goes like that and they had the mirrored route on the other side and he looks at Tyreek and the safety moves that way and he throws a lollipop for a touchdown. That's some graduate level stuff now. This guy is not

just about talent. He's learned how to play quarterback. And it's scary. It's like Brett Far. It's really fun to watch. Yeah. Trent Dilfer, great stuff today. Got him in-house. It'd be nice if you did that more often. Maybe you want to move out here. Taxes aren't great.

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