The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 10/09/2018
Episode Date: October 9, 2018Colin is even more appreciative of Drew Brees than other great QB’s because Drew has had to overcome so many obstacles in his career. He thinks the Cowboys struggles come down to the two most impor...tant positions in football, QB and head coach. Plus, after becoming the all-time leading passer, Drew Brees tells Colin how special it was being in New Orleans and how he needed the city as much as the city needed him. Presented by Perky Jerky. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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It is great to have you in.
Record setting night for Drew Breeze, one of my all-time favorite players.
Joy Taylor is joining me on a Tuesday.
That was fun last night.
Morning.
That was quite a moment.
Quite a moment for Dr.
Drew Brees.
And I, you know, it's a couple of months ago, I don't, it could have been six months ago.
We just had a day we were just kind of talking about quarterbacks and they kind of run the
sport now.
And there's only seven or eight great ones on the planet right now.
And I said, Drew Brees, I started watching football in 1972.
I'll give you the year before we show any tape.
1972, I watched the Super Bowl between Miami and Washington.
From that day forward on that, it was a January in 1972.
from that day until today, I've been watching football.
And it's been my favorite sport.
I like college football.
I like the NBA.
NFL is my favorite sport.
Football guy always have been.
And I listed the great eight quarterbacks and I put Drew Breeze on that list.
And people are like, whoa, what about Aaron Rogers?
What about Steve Young?
And I'm like, folks, I don't know what it is and why we choose to support certain people.
But I just want to let you think about Drew Breeze for a second.
I'm always more impressed when people overcome.
things in life.
I want you to think about the obstacles
Drew Breezes faced in life.
Number one, DNA.
He's six feet tall.
There was no Russell Wilson. People didn't want to draft
him. Six feet tall quarterbacks don't make it.
DNA disadvantage.
Junior year of high school, tears his knee up.
Senior year, nobody will give him a scholarship
except two basketball schools, Purdue and Kentucky.
He goes to the NFL where he's good in San Diego for three
years, and then they draft Philip Rivers, another
obstacle. Oh, by the way, in the NFL's last game in San Diego, he hurts his shoulder. And then he goes to
Miami and publicly the doctor says, I can't clear you to play. Obstacle. And then he goes to New Orleans
and it's a natural disaster, Katrina, obstacle. They play home games in San Antonio, one of them in
New York. And then halfway through his stay in New Orleans, Sean Payton gets suspended for a year,
his architect. His life is a movie that you cry at.
You cry during.
It's not a documentary.
It's a tearjerker.
It's a star is born.
I mean, it's incredible what he's overcome.
We live in a time now.
God, you spend five minutes on Twitter.
It's woe is me.
Everybody's against me.
I had to, hey, millennials, sorry if mom didn't pack you lunch and fold your underwear.
Drew Breeze, it's been every two years a major obstacle, natural disasters, DNA, injuries.
His timing's been terrible.
God, he goes to New Orleans.
Katrina.
His last game in San Diego, he gets hurt.
The greatest eight quarterbacks I've ever seen play the game, Peyton, Brady, Montana, Bradshaw, Elway, Marino, Aikman, Breeze.
And all of them have different stories.
But compare it to Peyton Manning.
He broke his record last night, right?
Passing yards.
But just think about, and by the way, Peyton Manning is one of the best I've ever seen.
I've never talked to Peyton Manning, talk to Cooper, to Eli,
and Peyton's great.
I was more of a Brady guy than Peyton,
but Peyton's an all-time great guy.
All-time great guy.
But think of Peyton Manning's path.
Peyton Manning DNA.
Perfect.
6-5.
Peyton Manning's dad, NFL quarterback.
Peyton Manning had his choice of SEC schools
surrounded by NFL players.
And then when he goes to Indianapolis,
oh, they land Bill Pollian,
Hall of Fame General Manager,
who gives Peyton Manning great player,
after great player, after great player on the offensive side.
He also got drafted.
I mean, if you think about Peyton Manning's life,
and he deserves all the acclaim,
he didn't face all these obstacles.
Drew Breeze from DNA on,
nothing but hurdles,
nothing but roadblocks,
and he breaks Peyton Manning's record.
It's unbelievable.
So when I say great eight quarterbacks
and people push back on it,
I'm like, look at your own life.
I say this all the time.
I had a few divorces in my life when I was a kid, but my mom was doting.
My dad was a doctor, so I got some of his brainpower.
I had a good relationship with my sister.
I lived in the same house forever.
I got a quarterback in high school.
I fell in love with sports.
I grew up in a small town, so there was, you know, lots of space right next to the beach,
had a good dog.
I may have some issues in my life, but I didn't have that many roadblocks.
I had a good life.
I went to therapy once.
I was like, what am I crying for?
I didn't have any roadblocks.
Yeah, there's a few divorces in my life.
Drew Breeze's life?
His athletic career?
His professional career?
It's just like it's a steeple chase.
Hurdle after hurdle after hurdle after hurdle after hurdle.
And here's the play where he set the record.
So the family's on the field in anticipation of celebration.
Will we get it here before halftime?
Right open.
Right open.
Isn't that great?
Isn't that fitting?
A big play.
A big play.
Congratulations to Drew Breeze.
He is scheduled to phone us in one hour, one of my all-time favorite guys.
He is just diligence.
I mean, if you had four or five words to describe him, it's guile and guts and grit and great.
And all boxed into one tip of the cap, one of my all-time favorite guy.
He started watching football in 1972.
His story is as great as anybody that's ever played that position in this league.
Amazing.
Let me shift gears to this.
Drew Breeze, it's fitting Drew Breeze did what he did last night because the NFL's hard.
Careers don't last very long.
You don't have guaranteed contracts.
A doctor can say, you're not cleared to play.
It's hard.
That's why I think I've always liked football players more than other athletes.
It's hard, man.
It's hard.
Successful guys are dealing with injuries.
So the Philadelphia Eagles yesterday, they just found out J.J.J.I.
A running back tore his ace.
Oh, another bit of bad news for the Eagles.
By the way, he called out the team and their play calling.
Hours later, he found out ACL tear probably out for the year.
Yeah, when you win in Philadelphia and then you start lecturing the NFL,
Drew Bree showed you last night.
It's hard.
think about all the things that have changed in the last five to six months for Philadelphia.
Their offensive coordinator is now a head coach he left in Indianapolis.
Their quarterback coach is now the offensive coordinator in Minneapolis.
Ligarrett Bunt, Trey Burton, Brent Selleck retires, Tori Smith traded,
Mike Wallace placed on IR, Darren Sprouls out since week one,
J. Ajai, probably out for the year.
Okay.
This is why I said the Philadelphia Eagles,
books, parades, chatter, politics reminding me so much of my hometown Seattle Seahawks.
New England is on their 18th straight year of being in the Super Bowl conversation.
Do we understand how unbelievable that is?
College sports are built for dynasties.
The best teams get the best players in recruiting.
The NBA, the best cities add more great.
players. In the NFL, when I watch what's happening to Philadelphia, it just illustrates how
unbelievable what the New England Patriots are doing. We're a few months removed from the Super Bowl
champs. They go into camp. They're a mess. They're season Thursday against the New York Giants.
I know it's like week six, but am I wrong saying it's a must win? This is why I compare the Eagles to
the Seahawks. They were historically frustrating franchise. They land a star quarterback.
Doesn't take long. They win a Super Bowl. They get loud. They start talking. They lose coordinators.
And the next morning they wake up. Oh. Oh, we're back to being what we look like. You ever throw a
big party at your house? You ever throw a big party at your house? And I mean, here's my thing.
But my wife and I once a twice a year, we'll throw a party. And I'm like, I don't want a party until
four in the morning because I know what it looks like in my house the next morning when I wake up.
This is why one of the mantras on my show is celebrate briefly grind daily.
The bigger the party, the bigger the mess the following morning when you wake up.
And the Seahawks and the Eagles, they party like crazy.
They're writing books and parades and talking and politics.
And look at them.
Folks, getting to the top is one thing.
Staying there is harder.
There's been a lot of one hit wonders in music.
There's a handful of legends.
And Philadelphia, don't give up on them.
That division's not very good.
I still think the Philadelphia Eagles will find a way to get into the playoffs.
But what you're seeing, JHAIA, out now probably for the year,
you know what you should be thinking about?
how damn impressive New England is.
College sports is built for dynasties.
Duke wins a title.
They get more good players.
Bam Ohio State wins a title.
They get more good players.
In the NBA, stars are joining stars.
In the NFL, Philadelphia, that's got a good owner, a great GM, a great coach,
a great quarterback.
Check, check, check, check, check, check.
All the things.
Great offensive line.
Great defensive line.
It's man overboard.
six months later.
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Pacific. Troy Aikman was talking about
on Dallas radio this morning. He was talking about
Dak Prescott.
And Troy Echman said
something. And, you know, when Troy talks
in Dallas about the Cowboys and the quarterback
situation, everybody listens.
So he said this morning about Dak
Prescott, he needs to be more accurate.
First thing I look for is accuracy
because the rest of it doesn't matter. Leadership,
size, smarts. I've seen
too many throws in that regard and there needs to be a little more anticipation.
He just needs to be more accurate.
And it's very interesting.
Like in the NFL, if you get the quarterback right and you get the head coach right,
you can screw up a lot of other stuff.
You really can.
It's like in the culinary business, if you get the food right and you get the service right,
you can screw up a lot in that business.
but the food's good, the service is good.
You don't have that had a great location.
People will find your restaurant.
There's a lot of holes in the wall all over America.
Great food, great service.
Lines around the block, and it's not even a nice block.
Okay, location doesn't mean anything.
Got to get the food right.
In movies.
You get the script right, you get the director right.
You don't have to have Tom Hanks in every movie.
You got a great script.
There's been a lot of movies that have made that you don't know anybody in the movie.
Script right, director right, actors less important.
In the NFL, you get the quarterback right, and you get the coach right, the Rams have it.
Kansas City has it.
New England has it.
And not many teams doing it like that.
New Orleans obviously has it.
You can screw up in a lot of different areas.
And in Dallas, quarterback, head coach Jason Garrett,
Dallas is doing a lot right.
Star running back.
That's important.
Ask the Rams.
Good offensive line.
That's important.
as the Rams.
They got great young pass rushers.
I love their linebackers.
When Sean Lee is healthy with this group, I love their linebackers.
Dallas is doing a lot right, good defensive coordinator.
But Jason Garrett I saw this morning is the first head coach to be fired,
according to the odds makers.
I think Troy Aikman's right.
In fact, I was looking at highest completion percentage in the NFL.
Dak Prescott's 28th.
So they're doing a lot right in Dallas.
But the quarterback and the coach right now,
now Jerry Jones, he talked this morning as well.
Now, Jerry, to me, this is very, here's the rub.
Jerry so far has been very, very supportive of Dak Prescott.
He said this this morning.
And firmly, make no mistake about it.
Okay.
But remember, Dax's making under a million dollars.
What happens in six months?
when DAC's agent asked for $26 million.
Because by the way, Kirk Cousins asked for 35, got 28.
And Alex Smith asked for 30 and got 23 and a half.
Yet, Dak Prescott at the current contract rate is a steal.
But what do you think is agents going to come in at?
Agents don't come in low.
They come in high and want to get every penny out of you.
Is Jerry Jones going to be so pro-Dak when they asked for 27.5?
million a year.
And they're not going to take anything less than $23 million.
Because they're going to say, well, what about Alex Smith?
Our guy's not as good as Alex Smith?
And they're going to throw up numbers.
And some of those are going to be the first year and a half numbers, which look really good.
So it's Dallet.
But, you know, listen, if you get the quarterback and the coach right in this league,
you can screw up in a lot of places.
Dallas is doing a lot right.
But they got big questions coming up here.
Dallas has two big questions coming up in the next six months.
quarterback head coach.
And they may have to make moves with both.
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Speaking of great quarterbacks,
Tom Brady would certainly qualify for that.
He was talking about Patrick Mahomes,
and they play each other this week,
the Patriots play the Kansas City Chiefs.
And, you know, he was on a Boston radio station,
W-E-E-I Brady,
and he was talking about,
it wasn't a shot at,
Mahomes to me, but he was talking about how the game now has changed for young quarterbacks.
You know, I think football was different then. You know, I think now I think in some ways
it's pro football is more of glorified college football. So I think in some ways it's maybe
the transition, it's a more similar game than what it used to be, you know, when I first started.
So it's much, I think football now is removing some of the physical element of the game. It's just,
it's more of a space game. And, you know, you see a lot of kind of college plays, you know, more
in the pro game now than what I remember
when I started. So, you know, that's just
kind of how things have went over the last bunch of years.
There's no, by the way, completion
percentages. What Drew Brees is completing,
what, 78% of his throws?
I do think the game is easier
if you're a really talented quarterback today
than it was 15 years ago.
I don't think that's a shot. But I think
what the NFL's done brilliantly,
and they've done this my entire life, they're the great
borrowers. They're not
stealing everybody else's ideas.
They're borrowing them and making
them their own. They borrowed from the XFL. A lot of the camera angles you see, XFL. They've borrowed plays
and coaches from the CFL, Canadian football. They've borrowed concepts from arena football. Now they're
borrowing concepts from college football. People worry so much about being original. Everything's copied.
And there's like basically in music, there's only so many riffs. They say that every sitcom ever
created has three basic themes. All Netflix is is a.
bigger, broader international version of HBO. All Uber is is a different form of taxis.
If you look at the number one movie in America right now, a star is born. It's its third remake.
If you're sitting around worrying about, oh my God, this is my original content. Nothing's original.
Nothing is new. Nothing is new. It's taking concepts, borrowing them and making them your own.
I would say the NFL even borrows things from the NBA now. This is absolutely true. I think when you watch, I watch the baseball
playoffs last night on one TV and the NFL
and the other. In baseball, I'm waiting
for something to happen. In football,
I don't have to wait anymore. They got rid of huddles.
By the way, a couple years ago, the NBA loosened up
the celebrations. And that, to me, was borrowing from the NBA.
Because if a guy dunks in the NBA, Steph Curry,
shimmies, and it's okay. It's part of the celebration. It ends up on the
internet. It's free publicity on Twitter and Facebook.
And the NFL's like, you know what? NBA's crushing it in
social media. What if we let our
players celebrate what's happened.
You go on a Sunday, you watch Twitter, and the celebrations are on as much as the touchdowns.
I know miraculously, it did not kill the game that they let them.
I myself do not like celebrations.
I'm not a celebration person.
John, you know this.
I literally wake up.
I go chop wood.
I do sit-ups.
I'm not a big celebration person.
You read the newspaper with your prune juice.
But NFL ratings are up.
Okay, almost nothing on linear TV is up.
And they're up because they've just borrowed a bunch of ideas.
And I love the current, I love it.
I love the current NFL.
I mean, I watch the Chicago Bears.
That's a 60-40 college offense.
I watch the L.A. Rams.
That feels like a 60-40 college offense.
So I don't have any problem with it at all.
I think it's great.
I think they're the great borrowers.
I don't think Tom Brady was banging on anybody.
Listen, if you look at the completion percentages in the NFL right now,
it's like seven-on-seven passing drills.
Drew Breeze is almost at 80%.
I mean, Cam Newton is not a precision quarterback.
He's in the mid-60s.
I mean, Joe Namath finished at 50%.
Joe Namath let go of a football.
Coin flip, completed or not completed.
Drew Breeze, let's go over football eight out of ten times.
Somebody will catch it.
Now, some of that's Drew Breeze.
Some of that is the new football we have.
which I think is absolutely, absolutely without question.
Here are the highest completion percentages.
Never been a time in my life.
There's like seven guys in the 70s.
To me, I always said, to me, you got to get to 62%.
Now when I look at football, I'm like, you kind of got to get to 66%.
You got to be 65 or 66%.
And I was always like, when Tim Tebow was winning games, I'm like, this is not sustainable.
He's completing 47%.
That's just not sustainable.
And I've been critical of Cam Newton through the years.
I'm like 58%.
Eli Manning without OBJ is 58%.
That's not sustainable.
You get to a point now where I'm not sure if it's sustainable to be like 60, 61.
I mean, Dak Prescott's 28th in the NFL.
And by the way, John, look it up.
I think he's like 64.
He's not.
Yeah, I mean, Dak Prescott's 62%.
And that's 28th in the league.
And the knock on him from Troy Aikman this morning on Dallas radio,
that's not good enough.
So, you know, there you go.
Drew Bree is going to call us here in a minute I've been told.
By the way, here's the other thing I saw last night.
I'm going to do her hierarchy, but I'm going to try to make it.
I'm going to try to make it post Drew Breeze because it takes about seven, eight minutes.
Here's the other thing I was watching last night when Drew was tearing up Washington.
The other thing I was watching was Washington.
as critical as I have been about the Philadelphia Eagles,
you can't sell that stock.
Washington had a week off and a day.
They had a buy week, right?
So veteran quarterback, veteran coach,
this should have been a very, very good performance by Washington.
Now, I know it's tough to win there.
That was awful.
The NFC East is an absolute mess.
Think about this.
the five lowest scoring teams in the NFC.
Now think about this.
Arizona's number one.
Two, three, four, five are NFC East teams.
It's just a mess.
Now, the good news is Dallas is limited, New York's limited, and Washington's limited.
Philadelphia is not limited.
Philadelphia is injured.
Philadelphia is trying to get their act together because they lost coordinators.
But when I watched Washington last night and I watched the Giants this weekend and I watched
the Cowboys, I see Limited.
I don't think Philadelphia is limited.
I just don't think they can get the ship right yet.
But I think they have Carson Wentz.
They have a great defensive line.
They have good offensive personnel.
They've got some good running backs.
They're all beat up.
But I'm watching that last night.
And if you're Washington and you're looking at that,
there are games in the NFL that leave a mark.
And you're like, oh, that's not great.
That's just not great.
That was one of those for Washington.
That wasn't a singular loss.
That spoke volumes.
Veteran quarterback, extra time off, veteran NFL coach, and not competitive.
And it should be noted, New Orleans is going to win a lot of games this year,
but that defense, you can take advantage of it.
That defense gives up yards, and they didn't last night.
What's up, everybody?
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I talk a ton of football.
This week got a big show.
Drew Brees, Breaking Record.
Jerry Jones, Jason Garrett, how long will that last?
Mike McCarthy and Aaron Rogers' relationships falling apart.
Again, you can listen wherever you find your podcast.
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Well, Drew Breeze, of the many accomplishments, I said this a couple hours ago.
In my lifetime, there has never been a quarterback who has overcome as many obstacles as Drew Breeze.
He's not 6'5.
He tore up his knee in high school.
He went to a kind of a historically running conference, cold weather basketball school, Purdue.
Then he plays in San Diego, gets hurt, and then Miami won't clear him.
Then he goes to New Orleans and Katrina and Sean Peyton at one point has to leave for a season.
Obstacle, obstacle, obstacle, obstacle.
And you look up and he's breaking Brett Farve and Peyton Manning's records.
That's why I've said, I call him one of the great eight, one of the great eight players that's ever played that position that I've ever seen in my life.
impossible not to root for and Drew has been kind enough to spend a few minutes with us today.
Drew, how are you? Thanks for joining us.
I'm doing great, Colin. How are you?
Great. You know what I thought was, and it really speaks to you, instead of last night coming out
and saying, I wanted to prove people wrong, you came out and said, this record proved so many
people right. And I thought that was a remarkable thing to say because it'd be very easy to go
the other way. And you wanted to talk about breaks and support. Go back. Go back.
If I said to you, NFL, your first big break, what was it?
Well, you know, honestly, what I learned through the draft process very quickly
was that it was more important to end up in the right place, in the right situation with the right
team, the right system, the right coaching staff, as opposed to just getting drafted as
high as you possibly can.
I mean, I think that's a lot of guys coming out.
That is their intent and their goal is to get drafted as high as they possibly can.
and yet at the end of the day, it's about being in the right situation.
And I felt like being drafted to the San Diego Chargers in the second round was the best place for me
because I had the chance to be an understudied to Doug Flutie,
who was one of my childhood role models, the guy that I looked up to,
an undersized guy who just constantly overcame the odds.
And being around guys like Junior Seale and Rodney Harrison and other great leaders there in San Diego,
around a coach like Marty Schottheimer, I just felt like that helped me,
build the foundation by which, you know, I would build my NFL career.
You know, and then you end up with Sean Payton, who, you know, like a Sean McVey,
none of us knew who Sean Payton was.
We didn't know who Sean McVey was.
When did you realize with Sean Payton, wow, this could be the perfect coach for me?
You know, it, I mean, I'll remember forever the first time Sean called me.
I was literally in a Arby's drive-thru in Birmingham, Alabama.
I was there rehabbing.
I just had my surgery with Dr. James Andrews.
Two months post-op.
You know, could barely lift my arm still above my shoulder.
And here's this, you know, coach calling me, you know, fresh from the Cowboys organization,
getting the job in New Orleans.
I mean, I don't think he knew exactly what he was taking on at the time.
And yet he was telling me that I was his guy.
And, you know, listen, my confidence took a hit, you know, after that.
injury just because I as much as I felt like they got had a plan and and I was going to
come back stronger I mean listen I had my doubts you know that was that was a very daunting
time for me you know when I was told hey eight months until you're able to throw and then two
years before you really feel normal again I mean that was that was overwhelming yet here was a
guy looking at me in the eye and saying you're my guy you know you're going to leave this organization
what's amazing about you is you literally if when I
think New Orleans is the perfect place for you.
Your offense is progressive and smart and crazy and fun.
And New Orleans, Marty Grau, crazy and fun.
And people have doubted New Orleans.
Could they come back?
There is this link between you and the city in which you play.
And I think that's a hundred years from now.
I mean, do you ever think about that that in a weird way, New Orleans, the city was
perfect for you. No question. There's no question. God had a plan. I felt like it was a calling to come to
New Orleans. We needed New Orleans as much as you could say maybe New Orleans needed somebody to
believe in them too. It was the perfect match. In a way, we were both trying to rebuild, right? Rebuild our
lives, our career. There was so many unknowns. And yet I just felt like we were all leaning on
each other. And the most amazing thing, I think my wife and I experienced when we came all,
on our recruiting visit, so to speak, in New Orleans,
was that every person that we met
really didn't say anything about football.
What they said was,
thank you for wanting to be a part of this community
and considering New Orleans.
And I think you realize very quickly that New Orleans
is a special place, it's a unique place.
You know, so many of the people who live here
have lived here for generations and generations.
So it's just, it's in their blood.
You know, there's a spirit here,
there's a culture here.
It's unlike any other.
You know, one of the challenges
you face now, as a father, a husband, 39 years old, you are now surrounded often by 22-year-olds.
There is an age gap. And it doesn't matter if you're a CEO or a high school principal.
You have to bridge that gap. You have to relate to young players who are often backs, receivers,
and offensive linemen. How have you done it? Because when I watch you, you are, I mean,
you're going to be a 40-year-old guy, you're surrounded by kids, and they look up to you,
and they listen to you, and I don't think that's easy.
And you have bridged it.
Do you think about that?
Yeah, you know, it is unique because I definitely feel like, you know, I come from a different
generation.
You know, I mean, in most cases, jazz in the latter, 22, 23, 24, you know, so I'm 15, 16, 17,
17 years older, you know, I like to think that being around them rejuvenates me.
It keeps me young.
You know, I feel a great sense of responsibility.
each and every year to come in and take the new draft class
or the young free agents that come in
and you're kind of starting from scratch,
the opportunity to build up the offense
and recreate the identity of your team again.
And I feel like I learn as much from them as I hope they learn from me.
I don't know.
I mean, I think having three young boys too,
I mean, as I'm talking to,
I'm in the whirlpool at the Saints facility with my boys.
They're running around.
One of them's naked right now jumping in the whirlpool.
And they're just like, I mean, they keep me young too.
They keep me up to speed on all like the latest Fortnite dancers and all that other stuff too.
So I feel like I'm pretty hip to the game, you know, even though they're kind of an old guy now.
But now, listen, I love the locker room.
I love being around the guys.
I mean, I know that a lot of the guys who have left the game most recently, retired guys that I know one of
friends with, they say, man, the thing I miss the most is the locker room being around
the guys in the game day. Those are the things you really can't replace, you know, once you leave
the game. And so I'm just trying to enjoy the moment. Enjoy every second of it. Well, we've enjoyed
every second of you, Drew Breeze. 10 minutes on a busy day. Enjoy your family. Thanks for joining
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The top 10 NFL teams, according to college, number 10.
I like the Chicago Bears, didn't play, but they're number one in the NFL in Sacks,
best pass rush in the NFL.
They lead the NFC in takeaways.
They have the best rushing defense, and I think Mitch Trubisky is limited, but Matt Nagy is a very
clever offensive coach.
They're about 60% college, 40% pro, and I hope the Bears remain in the top 10 all year.
I think it's a really, really interesting team.
And they have what Chicago has always been led by their defense.
Find a great Bears team.
It always feels like it's led by its defense.
So they're playing the brand, but I have the Bears at number 10.
Number nine.
Minnesota, same division.
Listen, Kirk Cousins is fine.
I mean, he's not, you know, in a top seven, eight in the NFL,
but he's third in the NFL in passing.
They have tremendous wide receiver threats.
And by the way, here's the thing about Minnesota.
their defense isn't great, but it's not bad on third down.
Listen, everybody's scoring in this league.
I kind of look at your third down defense.
Can you situationally get the opposing offense off the field?
Minnesota's not terrible at that.
They're not.
And so I have the Vikings with a very electric pass offense,
a good home field advantage, the best roster in their division,
and they get you off the field pretty well on third down is number nine.
Number eight.
Carolina Panthers.
Listen, when Cam's winning, it's because he has a very dynamic running game, and Carolina leads the NFL in rushing.
But I also think this is it.
He's completed over 60% of his passes.
He didn't play brilliantly for all of the New York Giants game, but he did make some big throws.
This team is different.
They're a little bit like Chicago.
They're going to do it with their front seven defensively.
They're going to run the football more than other teams.
They're not going to be as dynamic on the.
perimeter and outside. I mean, I think Christian McCaffrey leaves them in receptions. That tells you
all you need to know, but they're definitely a top 10 team. I have Carolina at number eight.
Number seven. I still think Pittsburgh's loaded. And again, Pittsburgh's got problems defensively,
but here's what they do. They get to the quarterback. So my theory on the NFL, if they're the
opposite of New England, New England's great on the back end of their defense. Pittsburgh's great
up front. They're not good in the back end. And if you told me I had a choice between the two,
I'd rather have a great pass rush and figure out the secondary later.
By the way, the Steelers have scored 30 plus points in three of their last four games,
and James Conner's got almost 600 scrimmage yards.
So they're not a great team, but I thought they were super impressive against Atlanta.
They are growing, and I have them at number seven.
Number six.
I still like the Ravens a lot.
I wish Joe Flacco at 6'5 would have fewer balls batted down at the line of scrimmage.
I can't figure that out, but they bring in Lamar Jackson now that works.
They lead the NFL in scoring defense, and they also lead the NFL in third down defense.
And again, I think this team's going to be better by Thanksgiving.
They got two rookie tight ends, three new wide receivers.
They had many opportunities to win that game, and they didn't.
But I'm not selling all my stock on Baltimore.
I still think they're the best team in that division, best defense in that division, best scoring defense in the NFL,
best third down defense in the NFL with a veteran quarterback and a veteran head coach.
Number five.
LA Chargers.
I mean, they just threw the Raiders around for three and a half hours.
By the way, their only losses are to the 5-0 Chiefs and the 5-0 Rams.
And they were in both those games.
So Philip Rivers has had six consecutive games with multiple touchdown passes,
dating back to last season.
That's the NFL's longest streak.
And if you watch the Raider game again, that defense shut down the Raiders.
And the Raiders have all sorts of offensive elements.
And they shut them down.
they may be the second team in LA
but the Chargers personnel
front to back is really, really good.
Number four. New England
to quarterback coach league. They've scored
38 points in each of their last two games.
Again, they don't have a pass rush
and I don't know if you can generate one.
I think you can get their secondary is great.
It's the strength of their team.
Brady, Gronk, Edelman, Chris Hogan,
Sony, Michelle, that rookie running back,
James White. Their strength
of their offense is they've got to
a lot of efficient offensive players.
Not a lot of dynamic guys, but a lot of efficient
guy. They can pick up yards. A lot of
first downs, a lot of time of possession.
Defensively, no pass rush, but they're
tremendous a corner, great at safety.
And I think they have the best coach and quarterback
in the NFL, so I have them at four.
Number three. I think the
Saints remind me a lot
of the Patriots.
With a better offensive line,
nobody in the NFL's allowed fewer
sacks. They've got a better
offensive line in New England, and they do have a
dynamic wide receiver on the outside.
But I look at this team and I think smart, efficient.
They can five-yard you to death.
You can't get to their quarterback.
They don't turn it over much.
Very good home field advantage.
I mean, that was embarrassing for Washington last night.
That wasn't competitive.
And that was Alex Smith and a veteran coach with coming off a buy week.
I got New Orleans at three.
Number two.
Kansas City.
By the way, even Vegas admits that turnovers are random,
except for New England and Kansas City.
Andy Reed's teams don't turn the ball over.
Only three turnovers.
Once again, Kansas City, fewest turnovers in the NFL.
Now, their last and total defense, and that's a huge problem.
They started last year, 5'0, they're 5 and 0.
I think against New England, I think the way you look at Kansas City is just five yard
them to death, death by a thousand cuts.
I think the defense is ultimately going to catch up to them.
They've got to get better, especially in the back end.
too many explosion plays they give up, but I have Kansas City at two.
Number one.
The Rams.
Listen, going to Seattle, losing two of your receivers and still winning that game, I still think this is a great football team.
Now, it's a salary cap era.
They're not perfect.
They don't have a great pass rush.
Indama and Sue and Aaron Donald are monsters on the interior, but they don't have a great pass rush.
And it's safety back end.
You can go over the top a little bit on them.
I don't think their linebacking core is perfect.
But if you're talking, you know, coaching, coordinating, O-line, interior D-line, corners, receivers, superstar back.
You know, it's funny for all the points, they still feel like a power offense to me with Todd Gurley.
I have the Rams at number one.
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After almost three hours, Colin apparently hasn't gotten to the point yet.
Quit holding out on us, cowherd.
It's the best for last.
Well, last night, Drew Brees broke Peyton Manning's record career passing yards,
and it's really remarkable if you look at the obstacles he overcame.
Drew's having another amazing year, best passer rating, best completion percentage in the NFL,
and certainly a Super Bowl-level team at this point.
Breeze is 39, turns 40 in January.
A lot has been written about Tom Brady, the ageless wonder in Foxborough.
But we know quarterbacks go downhill in their late 30s, but here's what's remarkable.
We dug this up.
From age 35 on, Breeze, Peyton Manning, and Tom Brady,
as good as any quarterbacks who have played the last 10 years in this league,
that actually Drew Breeze in yards per game, completion percentage, and passer rating,
minimum 50 games, is better and sometimes significantly better than Peyton Manning and Tom Brady.
He's actually been the better old quarterback.
But why isn't he celebrated as much?
Well, let's look at winning percentage, because Brady and Peyton Manning have had,
had fewer obstacles, often better teammates, often a better front office, and Breeze has not
won as much.
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