The Herd with Colin Cowherd - Best of The Herd: 10/24/2019

Episode Date: October 24, 2019

Colin explains why Patrick Mahomes will play on Sunday against the Packers despite dislocating his knee cap in his previous game. He calls Baker Mayfield a goof for calling out the refs ahead of the Browns game in New England. Former Packers LB Brady Poppinga tells a great story about when the Packers knew they were moving on from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers. Plus, Colin gives his best three college football bets in the Marquee 3. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's uncomfortable because, you know, it's not supposed to be this warm, and it's also really warm. It's crazy. I guess we could have hail and snow, so we shouldn't complain. I'm not complaining. It's just, you know, makes you wonder. So I'm Joy Taylor, of course, the voice of Joy Taylor. One hour from now, Greg Co-Seller, NFL Meat Sandwich. You know how I love that?

I geek out. I nerd out on that. So I'm driving to work this morning, and as I always do when I drive to work, I listen to about six different radio shows. I don't care about the takes. I care about what the topics are. And like, what's the nation talking about? What are fans talking about? And I heard a couple of different shows saying,

Patrick Mahomes is hurt. He cannot rush back. He can be very, very careful about rushing back. Patrick Mahomes, if he can, needs to play against Green Bay. Would you, let me ask you this. Would you rather have healthy players sitting out games because of load management or injured players fighting to get on the field? Which would you prefer?

One of the reasons I like the NFL more than the NBA, and I do love the NBA. I watched two games last night, but I like the NFL more is the urgency and the scarcity and the scarcity of games and games matter and guys play hurt and guys are fighting to get on the field like the rest of us in America. You work with a hangover, you work with a cold,

you'll work when you're sick. You've got to pay the bills. It's very relatable. I like Jimmy Butler, NBA player. He sat out to season opener last night for personal reasons. That's probably fine in the NBA. I mean, maybe you add something at home, but I've never even heard of an NFL player sitting out for personal reasons. I've never even heard of it. So it's a different sport. And I love

this about the NFL. Folks, we're only halfway through the season. Kansas City needs to get the number two seat. They're not going to get the number one seat. New England's going to get the number one seat. They got to get the number two seat. They've got to play a play play a playoff game at home. They've got to win their division. And Andy Reed is unbelievable off a buy. We know that. I think he's the best record in the NFL. This is a team that's got some older players, players that have had injuries. They would need to win their division. Get a buy. That makes it easier when you do play New England. Now, I think the NFC is better than the AFC. But don't kid yourself. Buffalo has the second best defense in the NFL.

You want to go play at Buffalo? Indianapolis could win their division and have a better record. You want to play Indianapolis? You just lost them at home. They have the best best offensive line, certainly the best young offensive line in the NFL. Houston. You want to go to Houston? Deshawn Watson? I mean, the kid's magic. Their defense up front's very good. You start looking around Baltimore. You want to play in Baltimore? Really? You want to go play the best number one points per game offense, the running offense. I mean, seriously, you already beat them and now they're better. Forget New England. You're not going to get a home. game against New England. But you've got to get home. You've got to win this game. You've got to win

games. You've got to play hurt. The other thing is, Mahomes has not been great in these big showdown games in terms of winning. He lost the Goff. Remember on the big Monday night football game? He's lost to Russell Wilson on a Sunday night football game. He lost to Sean Watson this year in a big showdown game. He lost a Tom Brady in a playoff game. He lost a Tom Brady in the Sunday night football game. So, I mean, in these big showdown games, he wants to face Aaron Rogers. He wants to go and face Aaron Rogers. It's good for him. It's good for the team. It's good for his brand. And they have a chance to win the game. I mean, Green Bay's defense is good. It's not that good. It's not Buffalo good. It's not New England good. Kansas City can win that football game.

We have an NFL where Drew Breeze is fighting to get back on the field and his team's yet to lose without him. He's fighting to get back on the field against Arizona when the Saints were favored by 10 against them and they have a buy after it. There's never been a game that was easier to sit out for Drew Brees. He's fighting to get back on the field. Last year, to Sean Watson had to take a bus to a game. He couldn't fly. It was a 10-hour bus ride because he was injured. Like the bar's been set in the NFL.

There's no load management in the NFL. There's too few games, too much scarcity, too much urgency. You got to play. And Chris Carter talked about it this morning, the Hall of Famer. This is what this league is all about. The reason why the league is what it is. It is. In this brutal sport, guys have played through being injured and chance in their career. That's what the league is made on. Just as you were shocked that he was at practice yesterday,

I'll be shocked if he's not under center on Sunday, especially after participating in a Wednesday practice that you don't have to. He should play, he will play, and they have a chance if he plays to win, and Kansas City needs to win. Let me shift gears to Baker Mayfield. I was not going to criticize Baker, Mayfield this week. I think they'll be okay against New England. Won't win. It'll be close. Baker Mayfield, this story's now like two weeks old, right? Like, like he shouldn't be talking about a game that was, you know, weeks old. He should be talking about New England. That's where his focus should be, right? That's what New England does. What's the old famous saying, Bill Belichick, on to Cincinnati? New England on a short week could be a little vulnerable.

The Cleveland on a buy has a chance here to make it interesting at New England. That's what Baker should be talking about. Anything else, guys, it's on to New England. That's what the smart quarterbacks do. Russell Wilson, Tom Brady, Andrew Luck when he played. Deshawn Watson. Yeah. We're talking about the next game.

Here's Baker Mayfield still complaining this week about the officials, you know, 10 days ago. One, I wouldn't say it's complaining when it was blatantly obvious. I'd say that's just stating facts. freedom of speech. I thought, you know, it's okay, but I get fine for it. It's the league. That's what they do. They fine you for some ridiculous things.

It's just how it is. But there's a reason everybody's talking about it. I knew I was going to get fined, but it needs to be said. People have to be held accountable for their job. When it affects my job, it sucks because it's not in my control. Time out. People need to be held accountable. You goof.

You lead the NFL in interceptions. you're somebody that needs to be held accountable. Cleveland's got an excellent roster. Star receivers, star running back, star pass rusher, great corners, a rookie head coach who needs your support. Held accountable? Who are you kidding? You were terrible against Seattle.

You lost the game. You need to be held accountable. And nobody's talking about it. Players star quarterbacks in this league aren't banging on the refs. They've moved on. You're talking about it. Freedom of speech. Do you understand what the First Amendment is?

Did you go to class at Oklahoma? Freedom of speech protects us from our government, not from being fine from the National Football League, you goof. Held accountable. This is what I said. Johnny Mansell, James, Winston-Baker-Mayfield. All talented. I said, I don't trust his judgment.

I think he's got lousy judgment. Quarterbacks about judgment. Okay. NFL leader in interceptions, running from cops, throwing footballs at people in college. That's just judgment. That's just really terrible instincts. Taunting the refs before New England. You understand refs are human?

Do you understand, do you ever watch? You ever notice this before an NFL game? Have you ever noticed the veteran coaches go up to the refs, put their arm? Hey, good seeing you, Bob. Good seeing you, Jack. Jim, how's the family over there? You ever noticed that? You ever see Mike Shishowski, John Calipari, Duke and Kentucky before big games,

smiling. How are you doing? I haven't seen you since last year at Clemson because refs are human. You're playing a defense that is the best historically ever in their place. And you're taunting the refs. You should be sending the refs gifts. Watch coaches in college basketball. They're sucking up to the refs before.

tip-off. Even Bobby Knight used to do that. He may yell at him during the game. He was sucking up before the game. Belichick. I've talked to NFL coaches about, hey, how you doing? How's Margaret? How are the kids? Are they doing? Oh, well? That's what you do. They're human beings. You can call different things.

I'm not saying refs are on the take, but they're human. You're taunting New England. You're taunting the reps. What are you doing? This is what worried me about him. Nick Wright talked about this this morning. You're talking about people being. held accountable, you got a rookie head coach, you got a super talented roster, you got a GM

that rolled the dice on you, you have an owner that rolled the dice on you, you were a two-time walk-on, you had a police video, they rolled the dice on you. You were not the highest-rated quarterback on most boards. Cleveland took a chance with a two-time five, eleven and a half walk-on and runs a four-eight-40. They're hoping they can depend on you. And you're talking about a accountability, freedom of speech in the refs two weeks ago. Nick Wright this morning on first things first. Instead of trying to fight City Hall,

try to fight the opposition by not giving them extra possessions. Baker's played six games this year. In zero of those games has he thrown multiple touchdown passes. But in three of those games, he's had three turnovers. And all of those games he's had at least one. He's got five touchdowns to 11 picks, and since he's

taken over the team, he has 25 interceptions and 19 starts. That's a, that That's disastrous. You know the other thing? With young quarterbacks, I try not to crush them for, you know, their rookie years. You can't even count them. Like I always say first year, I don't even care about it.

Like if they do something interesting, you're like, wow, every time Lamar Jackson and Dak Prescott talk, and Dak's still pretty young. Have you noticed this? Whenever Lamar Jackson talks, whenever Dak Prescott talks, it's about. team. They blame themselves. I'm not good enough. I mean, Lamar Jackson's like, I heard the critics,

and I think a lot of what they said was right, so I put on weight. Lamar Jackson is blaming himself. Always. Baker's always blaming somebody else. Stop asking the refs to be held accountable. You need to be held accountable. Your franchise and everybody in it rolled the dice to acquire a two-time.

walk on with a police video. They took a big chance on you. Stop talking. Start winning. Watch Lamar Jackson. Watch how he acts at a press conference. Every press conference.

Watch DAC. Every press conference. I was going to be nice this week. I wasn't even going to be critical. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific. on Fox Sports Radio, FS1 and the IHeart Radio app. All right, here's it.

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So make sure to tune in to Pod Meets Twirled for all our Survivor 50 takes. Listen to Pod Meets Twirled on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Big story. I'm going to go crazy on this. Mike Freeman's an NFL report. He said NFL teams reportedly have high interest in trading for Cam Newton. I roll. I'll believe it when I see it.

He's old. He's distracted. He's beat up. And Carolina is winning without him. I don't think there's a big market for Cam Newton. In fact, what I think is funny is I think Teddy Bridgewater is sitting out there. And I would aggressively, if I was Chicago, go for Teddy Bridgewater. The perception is Cam Newton's way better than Teddy Bridgewater.

Passer rating historically, Teddy's is better. Completion percentage, Teddy way better. win percentage, Teddy way better. One guy's got a better arm. Doesn't mean he's better. Jay Cutler had a great arm. It doesn't mean he's better than 90% of the guys he faced. Big arm, Joe Flacco had a big arm for a long time.

I'm Chicago. I aggressively trade for a guy that just beat me last week. And I don't want to hear he's a system quarterback. This whole league, you know, outside of Aaron Rogers, is a system quarterback. Joe Montana was a system quarterback. Well, they can't throw the ball downfield. When's the last time a team won the Super Bowl that was known for throwing the ball down the field? You win because of the defense.

You win because of long drives. You win because of coaching and sustainability and situational football, not throwing bombs down the field. Drew Breeze won a Super Bowl. Peyton Manning at the end of his career wasn't throwing the ball down the field. Brady hasn't thrown the ball big down the field in seven years. Here's the thing. Number one, Drew Breeze hurt his hand on a fluke play. his hand hit a helmet.

He's coming back this week or off the by. He didn't pull a hamstring. It's not a knee injury. It's not a back injury. It's not a shoulder injury. Where he may get hurt again. It was a completely fluke injury. Bang, hand popped.

Drew Breeze. Teddy B., your work's done here. It's over. Drew's going to start for the next two and a half years. That's the first thing. So this was not like, you know, when Deshawn Watson comes off surgery or that's not what this is. This is me literally missing a day of work because I walk out of the studio, bang my head on something and I have a big black eye. I'm not going to do that

more than like once in my career. That would be different than pulling an ACL playing tennis, which I'll probably do here in a couple months. It was a fluke injury. Teddy your work's done. The second thing to think about here, and this is a real thing to think about. The three best NFL teams I've seen this year. San Francisco, New England, New Orleans. Well, San Francisco and New England at the trading deadline just made a move to get better. What are you doing? He's going to sit there?

Well, we're pretty good. Chicago cannot punt on this season. This defense is too good. This coach is too good. You can't punt on this season. What's Chicago? Three and three? You can't punt on the season.

I mean, Green Bay looks like they'll win the division, but the wild card is wide open. Rams, I'm not even counting the lions out, and they're two, three, and one, I think. I'm not even counting them out yet. Divisions, I think I know who's going to win the division, Green Bay. I think San Francisco is going to win their division, but you're in a dog fight, and we're halfway through the season. You're in a dog fight. Hell, Arizona's in it now. I don't think they'll last, but Seattle, Arizona, the.

Rams of Philadelphia, could be Dallas, Detroit, Minnesota. Can't punt the season with this team. This team's too good. And Teddy Bridgewater is a grown-up. You don't need a superstar quarterback with this defense and this coach. You need somebody to move the chains, not turn the ball over. That is exactly what Teddy Bridgewater does. High IQ, coachable, moves the chains, gets first downs, keeps the defense off the field,

get your field goals, and a touchdown or two in a game. and you score 24 points. With that defense, very few teams not named New England in this sport are beating you if you score 24 points. And here's the other thing to worry about, and I'll get into this later. This defense in Chicago is about ready to quit on this offense. These all-time great defenses, there's a reason they last for about a year. You know, we have like the, you know, the, was it, 85 bears and the 2002 buccaneers

and the 2000 Ravens. You ever notice they're all like one year, Saxonville? Because the Jags defense eventually quit on Blake Bortles. They're like, we're over. We can't just literally be on the field all game. Those defenses continue to be good, but they're never as great. When you have a Bears defense like this, I watch that Saints game at the end of it. I think the Bears defense, you were seeing, it looked like a little bit of resentment.

Like, we're over this. These defenses don't last forever. Okay, the defensive coordinators go. You'll lose a top free agent. or two. We're already seeing that was Chicago. Lost a defensive coordinator, lost a couple of free agents. You have an injury or two, and suddenly it's a good defense.

It's not a great defense. Trading deadline is Tuesday. Saints make a move. By the way, if you don't make a move, then Teddy's just a backup who in the off season is going to go get paid somewhere, and you're going to get nothing for him. So get something for him.

Go look at your roster and say, okay, we're like this, this, this, this. Could we get a player? I mean, I'd go and try to get a player over a pick. If I could get a good player on New Orleans right now, I'd take that over a pick. Chicago may have an extra back, an extra lineback. Or they draft a lot, maybe an extra corner, whatever it is. But if I'm Chicago, I aggressively go for Teddy Bridgewater, not Cam Newton, and if I'm New Orleans, if I see any weakness on my...

Aren't Sean Payton and Drew Brees? You guys are in it now to win Super Bowls. Mickey Loomis, the G. You guys aren't in it to win their division. Some of these teams in this league are in it to win their division. The Saints are in it to win Super Bowls now. You are not... Look at San Francisco's roster. Okay, we're going to be playing now.

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Well, Kyrie Irving scored 50 points. last night. This is why he left LeBron, why he left the Celtics. He wanted to be the man, and he was, and he lost to the Minnesota Timberwolves at home. Congratulations. This is what you wanted. Took one game. You got the most shots. You got the most points. You got the last shot. Congratulations. You the man. The Nets starting five in Brooklyn is Kyra Irving, Joe Harris Levert, what's that kid's name? Karis Levert,

Tayshan Prince, Jared Allen, who had six points. So Tiny Brittle Kyrie Irving. Yeah, Tori and Prince, my bad on that. I haven't watched a lot of their games last couple years. That's the starting five. Okay, so Tiny Brittle, Kyrie Irving can't do a load management here. You get that right.

He's got to play like, you know, 78 games, and he's got to play 38 minutes. Tiny brittle, Kyrie Irving. The NBA has got a weird thing going on. A, load management. Stars want nights off. And B, yet they want to be the man. Well, if you're going to be the man

and you go to a team with a bunch of B minus players, you can't take a lot of nights off. But Colin, when Kevin Durant comes back, you still won't be able to take nights off. Have you seen the Brooklyn roster? If Kyrene next year takes nights off and Kevin Durant's playing with Joe Harris, Jared Allen, you think that's a 60-win team? No, it is not.

It is a non-playoff team in the West, and it's a seven or an eight seed in the East. You want to be the man, but you want load management. This is a thing in the NBA I don't get. That only works with one player. Kauai Leonard. Why? Because right now he's the best player. And Kauai was smart enough to look around the league and go,

I want to go to a really, really, really deep team, i.e. like Toronto, where I can come in and then I'll bring another star so I can take 15 days off. Load management works when your roster looked like Toronto last year or the Clippers this year. But on teams like that, you're not going to be the man. you're going to get a lot of shots, but Kauai Leonard was smart. He's like, they won 48 games without me. Their young players are getting better. I'm going to come in and they're going to win 58.

And I'm also going to bring a player just like me. So when I'm off, we'll still win and have a number one seat. So load management, which I'm not a fan of. But for Kauai Leonard, it works. Kauai wasn't about being the man. Kauai was about winning. Kauai could have gone anywhere. He went to the Clippers because they won four.

without him. And he wouldn't even go to the clippers with Doc Rivers and that great deep bench unless he said, Paul George has to come with me. I'm not coming there by myself. We know if Kauai went there just by himself, they would have been a top four team for the title. So Kauai was not about being the man. If he wanted to be the man,

he could have gone to that deep clipper roster and they would have won 58 games and been an absolute top four team for the championship. Not saying they'd win, but I'd take him over Milwaukee. I'd take him over Boston. take them over Houston. I'd take them over Utah. I don't know if I'd take them over the Lakers. We'll see how that works out. But if you want to be the man in a load management era, then you better join a better roster. Because this load management thing doesn't work for Houston. If James Hardin wants to take nights off, it's not the same team. It's not.

LeBron wants to take nights off, and I don't think he will. It's not the same team. This whole thing with Kyrie wanted to be the man, but he's going to be the man. But he's going to as a tiny, brittle guy with a bunch of B-minus guys around him. I don't watch a ton of Brooklyn Nets. I watch them in the playoffs. Watch one or two games last year. I don't know him. Ion Eagle does their play-by-play.

He's great. The broadcast team went local broadcast team of the year every year. They're great. I don't watch a lot of their games, right? I don't watch a lot of Brooklyn Nets games. I don't. I watch like the top 10 teams in the league. But you got your 50 and you lost it home to Minnesota.

But you better be there every night for this team. And even if you are, even when KD comes next year, You still better be there every night. Because if you take games off next year, and Kevin Durant is the man on this team, that's not a playoff team in the West. And it's an average playoff team in the East. You're not going to be as good as Boston.

Kevin Durant in that roster is not as good as Philadelphia. It's not as good as Milwaukee. I'm not sure it's as good as Toronto. It's not as good as Boston. I'm not sure it's as good as Indiana. One more herd? The herd streams 24 hours a day, seven days a week within the IHeart Radio app.

Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you'd like. Brady Pupinga, former NFL linebacker, Super Bowl chant with the Packers nine years ago. I'm not going to ask you where you keep your Super Bowl ring. It's not on today. Yeah, you know, my knuckles get a little swollen honestly, and so taking it on and

off, it kind of, it's kind of abrasive, because they're so gawky, you know? They're not as big as the who won the championship. Raptors. The Raptors. Oh, my goodness. Those things are like balls. But it's still big enough to where it's kind of difficult for my... Well, we know

You are good friends with Aaron Rogers, and I said this the other day. It's the happiest I've seen him. Now, Aaron wants to be the man. He doesn't want to be the only man. And I feel this with Tom Brady. The Patriots now, they've got a great defense. Yeah. They got a running game.

Tom wants to come to the park and no, I've got to make a couple big throws. Yeah. Aaron, I felt a little bit, and I didn't blame him. A little bit of resentment with McCarthy that, and the front of the first. office that fellas can't be a shootout every Sunday I can't win every Sunday it's so true I think he looks really happy that's what I see he's laughing he's joking I don't I don't sense and I'm not I'm not I've been tough on him but I always felt like does Aaron have to have a perfect passer rating to win now when he does they win by 30 yeah does he look happier to you absolutely and it's it's just more change I think

is the biggest thing is he's he's got a new environment it's a new culture He's got a guy in there that he doesn't look at as like an authoritative figure. He looks at somebody, he looks at LaFleur like somebody who's on his same level. And so it's a little bit different dynamic when you go to work. You're going to kind of hang out with your bros instead of, okay, I got to go. And I got to listen to this authoritative figure, which is not, it's not Mike's fault. I'm not trying to, you know, criticize Mike. It's just that was the dynamic.

Mike's that kind of figure to where he's going to control a room and he's going to put you in line. And now with Lefleur, it's almost like, all right, man, let's do our. thing. What are we going to do? And there's new concepts they're implementing. And I think you hit the nail right on the head when you said that Aaron doesn't feel like he has to go out and win it every game. He could, by the way. He did a lot. Oh, absolutely. He's capable.

But there's just some days where the ball doesn't fly out of your hands is smooth, where you're just a little off and you need some help. And that kind of pressure where it's constant every single day to where you have to win, it just wears you out over time. And so he's in a new world because, like you said, he doesn't have to feel that way anymore. And so that's the new

Aaron we see right now. What I worry about with Kansas City is Mahomes does feel like. My defense can't get people off the field. And I think Mahomes is fine with it now. But if four years from now, the Chiefs defense didn't get better, Mahomes is like, bruh, I can't win 3830 every week. So I worry Kansas City, I think, is becoming Green Bay about before this year where they're asking Mahomes.

Now, I said this earlier, and I've never been a pro athlete. But one of the things I like about the NFL is there's a badge of honor because of scarcity of games, you play hurt. And now, now, I guess there was a Bears linebacker that's missed games for personal reasons. And again, what's happening at home, I'm not blaming anybody. Yeah, yeah. But you hear it more in the

NBA. Load management, personal reasons. I think if Patrick is 80%, I think you got to play, right? Well, the NFL, I mean, you look at just how guys take other guys spots, especially entrenched quarterbacks. And the best example is far.

And you look at when he was able to go and get his opportunity when he was kind of a washaway second round draft choice of the Atlanta Falcons traded up to Green Bay it's because Madiakowski went down and he'd ask Farv. You say, hey, what was the main motivating factor between wanting to play all those games? Because there were more than enough

games and Farv streak to where he easily could have justified sitting out, but he did it. And it was that same thing. He's like, I don't want somebody taking my spot but guess what happened? If you go to where Aaron took over for Brett, it was 2007 Thanksgiving night

against the Dallas Cowboys. And I was there. I'll never forget this. And it's where Brett, he had this funny bone issue. So I think he hit somebody's helmet or something, and his hand went numb, and he could no longer grip the ball. That was his thing, too.

And so he's on the sideline holding his arm. And we're down, I think, two or three touchdowns at the point. Entrots, Aaron Rogers, that's when he had the long, flowy hair. And he just is on fire. I mean, he's scrambling all over the place, throwing the ball in the run. I'm just dominating.

I turn to Brad. I go, hey, your understudy's doing pretty good. We hadn't taken the lead yet, and he's like, oh, he's not there yet. He's doing good when we take the lead. So anyway, he goes and has an awesome game. But listen to this. Fast forward to Friday night, there's a social outing. And it just so happens to be that some of my friends and my wife's friends were the same friends as John Schneider,

who at the time was the assistant general manager of the agreement Packers. Now he's the current general manager of Seattle Seahawks. And he starts sipping on some of that, you know, truth serum slash alcohol. And we start talking And he goes Brady And he's burping You know Out these like yeasty belches

As he's blowing him in my face And I'm like yeah What's that man? He's like we're done with Fav He's like we got our guy And I'm like what I'm looking around I'm like how louder

You were kind of talking loudier There's a lot of Packer people here And he's like oh no we're done He's like we got our guy in Aaron We're done And he's like oh by the way You're getting a contract extension So I turn of my life

I'm like I guess I'm getting a contract extension Fast forward to that Monday, he searches me out. And he goes up to me, goes, Brady, Brady, Brady. What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. And it gives me that look and this walks away. And I'm like, fascinating. And so for the rest of the season, I'm just like, I guess they're moving on for Fav.

And lo and behold, you know, the history is the history. But that's why, you know, nobody wants to take a day off. Nobody wants to take a start off. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, nobody's breathing down his neck. But you look at Breeze, that's a guy. That's like he's going to be negotiating his new. deal. He was hoping before this season, man, I'm going to break $40 million a year. Now with Bridgewater going out playing the way he has over the last five games, there's no way he has

that bargaining power anymore. And so, you know, you got to get back out on the field or you're going to lose your spot, potential money. So it's, that's the reason why these guys won't sit out if they can make it happen. Brady Pappinga, a great storyteller, by the way. Was that great or what? That's why we bring you on. You could almost smell the belches. What'd you say? You called him the hoppy or the yeasties. The yeast. Steve Belches. Oh, my goodness. Okay, Brady, let me ask you about this. I have this theory, and I'm going to throw this out to you. Okay. If you look, be patient with me, be kind.

Okay. If you talk about great defenses of all time, I have a theory on this. Okay. The great defenses of all time, the 2002 bucks, the 2000 Ravens, the 85 Bears, the 2017 Saxonville Jags. We don't do this with offenses. We do this with defenses. They're great for a year. And they're great for a year because the defensive coordinator gets hired for a job. A free agent leaves and somebody gets hurt on defense because you blow stuff up. Okay. So my point is this Bears defense is special. They already lost their DC. Yeah. They already lost the safety. Okay. I watch them Sunday. If you stick with Trebisky, those guys look like at the end of the game. They got scorched, by the way. Yeah. At the end of the game, though, I believe defenses don't last as long as

a great offense, right? Because you have a quarterback you have them forever. That a defense, you get about a two to three year window where it's great. And I think the bears, if they don't move off Trubisky, I think you're going to get resentment in that locker room. Oh, you're right.

I saw it Sunday. You're right. I mean, because it happened with the Broncos. If you remember them, when they were the reason why they won the Super Bowl, and they still had predominantly the same guys, same coaches, everything was the same, but their offense was anemic. They couldn't move the all and they're having this roll the decks, a quarterback position, and eventually, and just coming

from a perspective of the defender, you break. Because you know the reality. The reality is you're not going to shut out every team to play, okay? I mean, if you're a really good defense, you'll average giving up in today's era, what, 15 to 17 points a game if you're like one of the best in the league. And that still doesn't guarantee you victories, even if you're only giving up, you know, 15 to 17 a game, your offense still has to go out and score points. So if you're looking across the field and you're seeing your office, you're saying your

offense just struggle, it demoralizes you as a defense. And that's exactly what's going on with Chicago. Plus, they play against Terviski into practice. They know this guy is, you know, I'm not saying that he's fake and that he, you know, what he's done up until this point has been kind of like an aberration. I mean, he could still go out there and be functional. But there's no way he's a, he's not a Deshawn Watson. He's not a Patrick Mahomes.

He's the fourth best quarterback in his own division. Exactly. He's not a franchise guy. He's just not. And unfortunately, they gave up a lot for him. He's drafted very high, so the expectations are there, that he needs to be this franchise guy. And sometimes that's not the best position for some guys to be in. And that's absolutely the function of the Bears right now.

They look across the field and they see Tribisky and they're like, I don't know if we can win this game. And I don't know, and this is where it's demoralizing for a defense, I don't know if we go out and have a dominant performance if it's going to be good enough. That's where it's tough. Guys break. Exactly. Guys break. Exactly. Philadelphia, we had Greg Kos.

on. Greg Cocell watches films. Oh yeah, I know Greg Costell real well. He's phenomenal what he does by the way. He's great. And so I said to him, and I said, listen, I whiffed. I wildly overvalued the Eagles' talent. Because I'm watching them in the first two weeks, and I'm like,

nobody gets open. They have no pass rush, and they have the worst corners in the league. Yeah. And I think, and Greg said, you know, Wentz doesn't make plays, they don't make plays. But there is something Joy has talked about. We know Wendz is more talented than Foles, but Foles has a statue, and Wence isn't winning.

And there's going to be half that locker room. Guys are going to be like, we moved off the wrong guy, right? Oh, Joy, you're so perceptive. Way to be. Thank you. Way to be. No, she hit the no right ahead. And this is something I've been saying for years.

If you want to check my Twitter account, at Brady Pupinga, go for it. I said this as soon as Nick Foles won this Super Bowl. Oh, come on. I said, and he, by the way, won the Super Bowl MVP, I said if somebody comes to the Eagles with an attractive enough package looking for Wentz, you take it. Because you got your guy. You got your guy.

To me, it's all about winning Super Bowl's. And if you got a guy that can come in and win the Super Bowl, be the reason why you did win the Super Bowl, which Foles was absolutely the reason why he had a phenomenal game against a very good, if not great, Patriot defense. Just look at how many points they give up per year that year. They were one of the top in the NFL. I'll talk about the page.

So you're saying Foles is better than Wenz. For, I'm not, so I'll say this way. If I have Foles and Wents and I'm evaluating them and there's no team and there's no scheme and none of that dynamic, I take Wins every time. Yeah. But in the situation where you have them mixed and matched and all that with Alshan Jeffrey, that offense, Doug Peterson, the chemistry and everything as it goes, that, yeah, Nick Foles is the best option for you at quarterback. So it was an organizational failure. They absolutely failed in doing one thing, valuing potential over productivity. You've got to go always back to productivity.

And the best thing is, is the contracts are set up now to where they could have been extra patient with Carson. They didn't have to jump the gun and, oh, give him this $100 million franchise quarterback. I know why they did. They didn't have to do that. They could have kept Nick Foles around. They could have had him play out his option year. And then if needed B, maybe start to play with the franchise tag or whatever. But to me, if you're the Eagles, I mean, I might just call Jacksville Jaguars or at least called, you know, Nick Foles's doctor and say, hey, how is he feeling down there?

And maybe try to get him back. Not maybe, no, get him back. Because he's, like I said, he needs to be in Philadelphia. For that, to me, he gives them the best chance. Lord. What's the matter? Did I just blow your mind? No, I like Wentz.

I just think I look at the rock. I like Wentz, too. They don't have any receivers that get open. Backs are average. No. Look, Alshan Jeffrey is the greatest example. What Foles would do, and this is what receivers love, is he would throw him open. I mean, just because a guy is covered in the NFL, you don't throw him the ball.

No, then you would never throw the ball. Most plays, especially play man-pressed defense, most guys are not open. So you've got to be able to throw him open. Wence isn't at that level yet. Can he get there? Sure. Foles was there. All the young quarterbacks.

Finally, Brady Puping, if you're listening, Super Bowl champ, eight years in the NFL, smart dude. BYUer, by the way. Yeah, that's right. All the young quarterbacks. Who do you like the most? Jishon Watson. Yeah. I love his dual threat ability.

To me, when I played against dual threat guys, they gave us by far the most fits. And so as I'm seeing that become more of a theme throughout the NFL, that's exciting because it's true to what ultimately presses all the hot buttons of a defense. But to me, Jashon just his clutch play has been phenomenal. Phenomenal. When his team's down and they just need him to make big throws. And I mean, he throws just frozen ropes on the run.

He's, you know, really elusive in the pocket buying time. Those things that just has a defense, you're just like, okay, dude, just, we'll just try to contain you. We don't think we can stop you. We'll just try to, you know, hold things kind of close and hopefully our offense can pull something off. And that's the guy, to why, TWA see right now that's the head of the class. By the way, one of the Packers having to buy you and Aaron could hang out and go have a piece of sushi over there, Nobu and Malibu? Nobu's great, by the way. It's fantastic.

I've never been there. I've heard of wonderful things. Just be careful, though. If you sit on their, I don't know what they call it, is a special name. It's like a balcony. Yeah. They yell this little, I think it's like a Japanese saying as they go in and out. And if you're too close to them, it gives you a headache.

Excellent. Never got to Yelp with that thing? No, no. I know the owner, Nobu, by the way. He's a great guy. I've worked with him in the past with some fitness stuff. So he's phenomenal. He does great stuff.

Really nice guy. But so I'm not trying to kill him. I'm just, if you don't like that, if you don't like that, just talk to the manager and say, hey, they don't have to keep yelling that every time they come over here. Love having you on, man. It's always a pleasure, man. You're really smart and thoughtful. And I didn't like the wince thing, but, you know, sometimes, whatever. Be sure to catch live editions of the herd weekdays in noon Eastern 9 a.m. Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, FS1, and the IHeard Radio app.

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Wisconsin and Ohio State. Take the Badgers plus 14 to cover. They're 8-0 following a loss in the last three years. Paul Chris is a great coach, especially after losses. Listen, they were looking ahead to Ohio State and got caught off guard. They lead the nation, does Wisconsin in time of possession. They'll keep it away for stretches outside of the hands of Ohio State's offense. And despite the loss, Wisconsin's defense is ridiculous.

They're number one in the country in a bunch of different stats, points, yards, yards per play. Third down percentage. They're fantastic. Their quarterback Jack Cohen lead to Big Ten in completion percentage. They lead the nation in time of percentage. Listen, they got a great running game. Two to three pros on the O line. Jonathan Taylor's a world-class back.

They complete passes. They're going to lose this game, I believe. Ohio State has special playmakers. They'll go over the top to win it. But Wisconsin will be in this football game. Don't overreact to Wisconsin. being upset looking ahead. Ohio State wins 30 to 20,

but I think Wisconsin covers and moves the ball on the Buckeyes defense. Auburn at LSU. Blowout, baby, I'm taking LSU minus 10 and a half. Joe Burrell is having, he may win the Heisman. He may be a first top five pick now. LSU finally throws the ball and Joe Burrow, the quarterback, has been sensational.

He was a backup at Ohio State. LSU is also great and big games. Six and one in their last seven against top ten teams. And Auburn's quarterback is a mess. Bow Nicks, freshman against top 30 scoring defenses this year. He's terrible. This is going to be a complete mismatch. Listen, Florida played almost perfect against LSU.

They played great and lost by two touchdowns. Auburn's going to get overwhelmed. Auburn never wins this game in Death Valley. LSU wins it comfortably, 36 to 20. Notre Dame at Michigan. I'm going to just tear me out. Michigan plus one. Michigan's going to upset Notre Dame this week.

They lost to Penn State, but they played a great second half. They dominated Penn State on the road in the second half at over 150 more yards. They also, Michigan has 18 sacks in the last four games. They now have a pass rush. Now, Notre Dame has a good. offense, but they played one great defense this year, Georgia. And did you watch what happened? Notre Dame does not have the perimeter weapons or the running back to make plays against the top defense. And Michigan's defense now is humming. So again, remember,

this is in Michigan. If you take out the Buckeyes and the Spartans, the rivals, Michigan wins home games. I think they're like 25 and O with Harbaugh at home besides the Buckeyes and the Spartans. They've won 11 straight at home. And again, 400 plus yards and back-to-back game. So Michigan's getting their act together. I'm calling for an upset. Notre Dame's faced one good defense all year, Georgia. They struggled making big plays.

Ian Book was not as good. I know you think I'm nuts. Goulet is rolling his eyes at me. Michigan upsets Notre Dame 27 to 26. Joy is rolling her eyes at me right now. You know what? If that's what you feel, Colin. Ann Arbor, they win there, except for the Buckeyes.

So I'm going to take. Wisconsin's going to keep it close against Ohio State. Close being 7 to 10 points. You always say aggressive wins. Yeah, and Wisconsin, by the way, time of possession. I'll take LSU to blow out Auburn. Florida played great against LSU, and they still boxers. They're great.

LSU could be the best team in the country. I don't think they are, but they could be. Well, now that two is hurt, now that two is hurt, they may be the best team in the country. When two is healthy, they're not. He's hurt. They probably are. How many times are you going to fall for Michigan? Hey, I'm not falling for them.

Yeah, didn't you say you were done falling for Michigan? You guys keep saying I'm falling for Michigan. It's like it's one of those Nigerian email scams. I'm not falling for them. They went all their home games unless they're playing the Buckeyes or Spartans. They went all of them. and they're getting points. You guys make it sound like this is one of those calls you get in the middle of the night.

Can I have your credit card number? Sure. I don't know who you are. You're a random guy from New Brunswick, Georgia. Here's all my information. I'm not falling for it. They're going to win. Last night, a blown call changed a game.

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